I've been carrying the Sig X Macro (non-comp version) with an Icarus grip, but I'm curious about the new Shadow Systems CR920X. Am looking forward to your review of it!
I'm still impressed with how good my newer model M&P 2.0 Compact is. As soon as I shot it, I put my Glock in my storage case. It's been my bedside gun for 6 months now.
I didn't like mine. It had the weirdest recoil impulse. It didnt feel smooth at all. Maybe it was hanging up on something, idk how to explain it. I sold it after like 400 rounds
I got a m&p 2.0c right after they came out and been carrying ever since. The only other pistol I’d trade it for after I shot it was a prodigy. It was nice.
Solid choice. I think. I would if I could, daily carry a M&P Ed Brown. Why not? It's about 5-600 more than a tracked out, Gucci Glock and in Mid Range 1911 price point.
My P10c is fine just being stock, I don’t plan on doing anything to it at all, I carry it appendix in a Slim Fit holster and it’s super comfortable to wear all day sitting, standing and driving, if you look at Slim Fit holsters the one I use is the Phalanx.
I also carry a p10c for the last five years nothing else has been in my belt. I shot competition and the group of 14-16 guys I shoot with every week, I am consistently in the top 2-3. I am okay shooter but this little gun makes me better.
I don't have the rost yet but the others have been good in my previous testing except the SAR I got to run it at a couple of events and it had issues but those things get worked over by the end of the day with thousands or rounds going through them.
@@TacticalConsiderations Thank you so much for the response big fan. You're the reason why I shot the Beretta APX line. But I must say the best gun I have ever taken shooting is the Taurus Gx4 Carry it amazing, shot it alongside the Sig X Marco for a comparison and it honestly was a little bit better and for the price can't beat it. The Rost Martin RM1C is going to surprise you.
Picked up an Echelon despite seeing the Springfield haters online… probably the best fit I’ve found for myself. Almost feels too easy & smooth for a stock pistol. Happy to see it made your list - definitely recommend it!
I put a Holosun 508t rdx2 ,a nightstick 550xl, and Ndx stainless steel guide rod on mine! I liked the way it shot stock. Putting a little weight on it , especially the guide rod, game changer. Made a good shooter and incredible one
How is M&P 2.0 a slept on platform? It's a common gun at competitions, and it's a common gun on the range in general. Additionally, it's one of the most common pistols in LE alongside Glock and Sig.
@@Osprey1994people do buy them, yes. It does seem weird though that nobody talks about them on a day to day outside of list videos like they do Glocks or whatever the new hotness is. I think it comes from a boringly high level of reliability. Nobody ever has drama with them, so it has become so understood that they're excellent, almost outside of being in a conversation with other comparable guns in a group gun nerd setting. Because of that, it seems nobody feels the need to talk about them.
@@PointBlank65 true. Also is fine by me. There's nothing wrong with building guns. Been there, done it, still have fun with it. However, I do believe a firearm you truly trust your life to should be dead reliable out of the box and should remain stock, at least stock internals/functional components. Both Glocks and M&Ps have that reliability, and M&P, in a way, keeps the discipline alive to not fuck with it for the reasons you mentioned.
I went with the Echelon because of the ergonomics and grip texture. Went with Patriot CNC magwell and mag bases for 20rds, Apex ext mag release and Guide rod. Holosun HS407 bolts right on and went with a surefire X300 so it would fit in a Comptak holster. Only have about 1k rounds thru it so far, but loving it. It's really smooth and quick to get back on target. I think it's a keeper.
@@dean7673 Never, but I inspected mine to be sure they were installed correctly before I used them and have since replaced them with Patriot CNC Mag Bases that are very stout and increase capacity to 20 rounds. I chose to go 20 rounds so I can use my ETS loader, grab one row of ten, load them, and repeat and I'm loaded with no counting etc... in about 30 seconds a mag. I feel like with proper maintenance this is lifetime stuff.
In the CZ triggers defense, not only is it amazing, but it’s also partially pre-cocked unlike the Walther PDP trigger which many say edges out that of the P-10 So for safety and trigger feel you can’t beat that P-10, and that’s just one of many amazing elements of the gun
@@oskar6661 did some research and they are most definitely all fully pre cocked There was argument with the PPQ on this matter but the overwhelming answer is they fully pre cocked it
CZ p10c is the pistol I recommend to any first time buyer. Excellent quality ,reliability and value and has the bonus of fitting a lot of holsters made for the Glock 19
*I do pay attention to you. Of the handguns shown by you, I own the Walther PDP F, the SA Echelon, the Sig Sauer P365 XMacro TACOPS, and the CZ P10 F. One of my personal favorites, not mentioned, is the Canik METE SFT. I am grateful for your enlightenment and guidance, Mike. Keep on rolling!* 🇺🇸💪🏼
Everyone disses the Beretta APX series but it’s my favorite glock alternative. I bought the centurion for a class because it was like $300 and the rep at the store recommended it. I liked how it felt and it took some getting used to, but I shoot it well.
Great options Mike, M&P M2 CORE Compact, Walter PDP compact, CZ P10c, Canik TP9 sc elite, PSA Dagger ported compact, plus Sig p365 XL with X macro lower are pretty much reliable guns
@@hyunpark1337I installed a Mcarbo flat short stroke trigger and an Amory Craft ultimate spring kit in my XMacro but I kept the stock firing pin striker spring in it. It made the trigger a good bit better.
We are for sure living in the Golden Age of Firearms. So much to choose from lol at this rate, might as well have a different Pistol for every day of the month. My pockets are crying though 😂
Sure as hell is a good problem to have. Hell, I am coming up on 4k rounds through a damn PSA Dagger with zero drama! Lol imagine that. Even the bottom barrel guns have a high level of reliability.
I'm a big Smith & Wesson fan. I've got a suppressed M&P compact 9mm next to my bed, and a shield plus in my holster. The flat-faced trigger feels great, and I love the texture. Though I'm picking up my first CZ (Shadow 2) tomorrow, so I'll check back in if things change. I'm not a huge fan of how thin the grip on a P365 feels, and the trigger isn't my favorite, but the X-Macro is an awesome option. 17 rounds in such a small formfactor is dope.
I “cheated” after 22 years with Glock, and shot a Shadow Systems MR920 Combat. Six months later Glock was out and the unofficial “Gen6” upgrade was in. Now if I wasn’t on the Glock Operating System using Shadow Systems, I would be using the S&W M&P 2.0 Compact. For the price point now a days I would consider the CZ P10C. However I know it’s not a striker fired gun, I would go with the DA/SA CZ P-07, (before the P10C), probably with some Cajun Gunworks and/or CZ Customs magic done to it. I would love to see a little DA/SA love with a review of the P-07 and/or the P-09. 😎✌️
@@edsweeney6843I’ve got the P10c and the P07 and they are great, my P07 could use some Cajun Gun Woks love but I’m going to keep it the way is, they are both fine pistols.
as past owner of the m&p 9mm first issue the factory grips were hogue-like rubber texture that didnt slip, the 2.0 is way to sandpapery for extended shooting evolutions way to many handguns are made that way now, thank heaven for talon grip people.
The Bul Armory AXE is an amazing firearm. The ported Tomahawk was not for me, but the Hatchet was exactly what I was looking for. I would say it is perfect.
@@Scokat87 You might be right about the Tomahawk FS, but I'm pretty sure he's done something in the Axe line. Either way, I guess he wasn't that impressed!
Dude, I'm a fan. I wish you made this video 1 year ago. I moved from NYC to PA and wasted no time getting carry pistols for my wife and I. That said I was buying guns in pairs, and after 4 pairs (yes 8 guns) I settled on the Kimber R7 Mako for my wife and I couple months ago. No range time on them yet. I wish I had the benefit of this video at the beginning of my handgun selection journey. Great unbiased and informative video. If you can, please review the R7 Mako in depth. Thanks in advance.
Great review. I have an Echlon and really like it. I’m a big fan of chassis based firearms for ease of maintenance. This gun is just great all the way around. I’ve had a lot of internet trolls say “that gun sucks and so do you if you like it” Those are probably airsoft guys or call of duty gamers. Doesn’t matter. Also have a Sig X Macro based on your opinion of them. That is a great EDC.
I’ve got 2 M&P 9s and I really enjoy these pistols. Two years ago I got the PDP and PDF, love both of these. The PDP is my go to gun. I have about 15000 rds in this pistol and it has performed flawlessly. PDF is just great as well. I also have the Echelon and it’s one I shoot several times a week and I’d buy it again. Lastly and surprised me how well it shoots is the Sig P320 X Compact. I’m surprised how well I can hit with this small but chunky gun. I’d say right now it’s tied even with my PDP. I’m looking for the 4.7” 320 right now. Thank you! Great reviews.
I am a Glock guy, honestly only brand of pistol I own. If I had to switch out of those I would go M&P. I could set those up like I have my glocks set up with different sizes and magazine compatibility
Gotta say, your channel has risen straight to the top of my most watched lists. Listen on my way to work and it just puts me in a good mood. Thanks. Hard to beat the SIG Macro, but I went with the Springfield Hellcat Pro mainly due to price. Picked up the Pro with the 17 round gear up package with 5 mags and a range case. But I still want the Macro. Damn, so many guns so little money.
Great video. It’s hard to argue against any of those I have all of them except I got the p10c and xr920 elite. I’m going to give an honorable mention to the Arex Delta X gen 2. I got the tactical od green model a couple months ago for $450.
Have had the Echelon for about a year now and it is by leaps and bounds my favorite duty-size pistol I have ever owned. Everything I have seen indicates the PDP is also a home run, but there’s just not room in my life right now for two primary pistols.
Don't own a Glock but I do qualify with the Glock 23 at my job. I wish the trigger were a little better but it seems to be a reliable pistol. I recently bought the Springfield Echelon and absolutely love it. Great reviews!
I own a CZ P-10 F and I love it!! Best pistol I’ve ever shot. My home defense gun. Sweet trigger, accurate shooter, low recoil, and just looks bad ass! 😁
Yes! The new M&P shield 2.0 is Extremely impressive! Im former LEO and im a Glock boy lmao. That being said. I love the shield and alot of the picks in the video. The Walther, M&P and Canik among other are great choices! Get your hands on and try as many as you can to find witch one works well for you! N like grand thumb says, get out and train.
My go-to is the Sig P365 series. Whether it's the X, XL, or X Macro, the modularity and aftermarket options are great and it is a great do-all choice. As for the grip texture, the Wilson Combat grip is an affordable option and more aggressive than the stock Sig or you can go for another aftermarket option in metal like the Icarus Precision grips.
I like my CZ P10’s (C Tac, C & F), S&W M&P 2.0 5”, Archon Type B (Gen 1 now) STI Spartan 1911 (yes 9mm single stack), H&K VP9 Sig P226 Legion RXP are all guns I like better than my Glocks (G417/34, G319, 44 & G517mos)
I have a Glock 19x and I’m a Glock fan but I also own 2 Canik pistols and love them I also own a Tisas pistol and for the low price the trigger is amazing and it runs great
My first pistol is the 4” PDP for my USPSA matches. Springco recoil system. Taylor freelance brass back strap and SRO optic. Loved it so much, I picked up the 4.5” OD green PDP and all the same upgrades as my 4”. Also added the $20 trigger spring kit to make the trigger lighter and smoother. Best gun ever!!
After installation of the Glock Performance Trigger I fell back in love with my Gen 4 Glock 34. My CZ P10f had issues with feeding the 1st round out of a full magazine so it's a range toy. Thank you for the video
Check out that Bul Axe Tomahawk for a Glock clone. Unbelievable value as usually from Bul - ported, slide cuts, mag well, and great trigger. Hundreds less than Shadow Systems.
I have four Springfield XDM models and they all shoot great, they are accurate and have been 100% reliable. HS Products makes great guns. Right now my edc alternates between my XDM Elite 3.8 9mm with Green Dot and a CZ P07 in .40, both are great carry options. I added Talon grip to both, the smoother version with a strip of the rough on the front and backstrap.
Im still a glock fanboy but theses pistols all have something i wish glock would adopt but i love to accesorize my pistols to my liking so i get exactly what i want in the end result. I wouldnt trade my full custom g45 for any one of these. But i would feel comfortable carrying any of these on the list.
Got the Glock Performance Trigger, feels kind of better but does for me shoot better. Had a Glock since 1992 and like them quite a bit but the new trigger is pretty cool.
I have 4 of the 5 you reviewed so I am in agreement with your choices. I carry the Glock 43X MOS which I love. One more to try out is the Mossberg MC2C 9mm. It is about the same size and weight as the Glock 43X.
Mike great choices and great video like always. There is so much good stuff out these days. I’ll still pick my p320s, but I have shot and or own/owned all but the echelon on your list and they are all great guns. Keep up the great work!
As far as a favorite goes, from your picks, I really like the P365 because of the modularity and ability to go from a 10 round pocket pistol to a sub compact with 17 rounds. Shalotec has outdone the competitors with the modularity capabilities. Honestly I'm still on the fence about getting a new grip module/frame or leaving it as is with the Sharps Bro's and VZ Operator 2 grips. On another note, Shadow Systems is doing something that no other manufacturers are doing when it comes to a carry gun. I'm super intrigued and would love to get my hands on a full size and conceal Shadow Systems.
I've only owned 3 pistols; a Gen 3 G22, a P80c, and a CZ P10c. I carried my P80 for about 5 years but since Colorado is going full California they're currently "illegal" so I bought the CZ last October and it is everything the CZ "hipsters" say it is. In the past I would sometimes have to fish for the dot when dry firing but now it's just always there. I'm not going to steal Paul Harrell's thunder and say "this gun fits my hand better than this one"...but it does. If I could change one thing it would be adding a QR code inside the box for a free optic plate of your chosen footprint. Not a deal breaker (obviously) but it would be a nice addition.
Everyone has a fav! What is Yours?
Glock! 😛
I've been carrying the Sig X Macro (non-comp version) with an Icarus grip, but I'm curious about the new Shadow Systems CR920X. Am looking forward to your review of it!
Each lady as their charm. Don't make me choose.
Really want to pick up a PDP
Or maybe two
Shadow Systems XR920P, what every glock should be.
I'm still impressed with how good my newer model M&P 2.0 Compact is. As soon as I shot it, I put my Glock in my storage case. It's been my bedside gun for 6 months now.
The MP's are great rigs
I didn't like mine. It had the weirdest recoil impulse. It didnt feel smooth at all. Maybe it was hanging up on something, idk how to explain it. I sold it after like 400 rounds
Likely felt that way due to the grip in the front and back straps and how sharp of a radius it is.
I got a m&p 2.0c right after they came out and been carrying ever since. The only other pistol I’d trade it for after I shot it was a prodigy. It was nice.
Solid choice. I think. I would if I could, daily carry a M&P Ed Brown. Why not? It's about 5-600 more than a tracked out, Gucci Glock and in Mid Range 1911 price point.
I've never been a Glock boy, so I decided to go with the HK VP9. I don't see too much content on them anymore, but man does she run!
Yeah the vp9 came a went pretty quick
@TacticalConsiderations that's alright, I'm not the type of dude to jump on a hype train. My VP9 stays strapped to me and has never given me an issue.
@NandoFojo VP9SK is my all time favorite.
HK has always been one of my favorites too. I own a couple of them including a VP9SK.
My cz p10f never misses, love the grip angle and ergonomics
It's great
CZ P10!! 🥇💪🏼🙌🏼
Good stuff.
P10c doesn’t seem to perform the best suppressed though. Unsuppressed I like it
Non. Tanfoglio Witness 2 in 10mm.
But only because I'm dreaming, I've got Big Dreams on an Australian Shoestring Budget.
My P10c is fine just being stock, I don’t plan on doing anything to it at all, I carry it appendix in a Slim Fit holster and it’s super comfortable to wear all day sitting, standing and driving, if you look at Slim Fit holsters the one I use is the Phalanx.
I also carry a p10c for the last five years nothing else has been in my belt. I shot competition and the group of 14-16 guys I shoot with every week, I am consistently in the top 2-3. I am okay shooter but this little gun makes me better.
Budget list that fits the criteria of the video 1. Beretta APX A1 2. Beretta APX A1 compact 3. Rost Martin Rmc1 4. Taurus GX4 Carry 5. SAR 9
Great choices…
I don't have the rost yet but the others have been good in my previous testing except the SAR I got to run it at a couple of events and it had issues but those things get worked over by the end of the day with thousands or rounds going through them.
@@TacticalConsiderations Thank you so much for the response big fan. You're the reason why I shot the Beretta APX line. But I must say the best gun I have ever taken shooting is the Taurus Gx4 Carry it amazing, shot it alongside the Sig X Marco for a comparison and it honestly was a little bit better and for the price can't beat it. The Rost Martin RM1C is going to surprise you.
Just bought a P10F OR SR. Putting a 507c on it. Shot without the site and it is insanely good.
Its a great pistol.
And infinitely better than any Glock.
I love my Walther PDP. I also own a Smith&Wesson 9mm 2.0. My new gun I am getting over the weekend is the Springfield Echelon.
Gun polygamy? Thank God I'm not the only one.
Very nice.
If you love love the Walther hold off on the echelon the trigger reset is MEH at best
Echelon has better (less) recoil than the pdp. And you can put it in different frames depending on preference.
Love my Echelon! Good choice.
Picked up an Echelon despite seeing the Springfield haters online… probably the best fit I’ve found for myself. Almost feels too easy & smooth for a stock pistol. Happy to see it made your list - definitely recommend it!
The Echelon is a great pistol. Most who bag on Springfield have no idea what they are talking about
Just Wish they would offer it in 40 SW
I put a Holosun 508t rdx2 ,a nightstick 550xl, and Ndx stainless steel guide rod on mine! I liked the way it shot stock. Putting a little weight on it , especially the guide rod, game changer. Made a good shooter and incredible one
That gun feels amazing in hand.
CZ! But M & P 2.0 is slept on for sure.
CZ is a heck of a choice.
How is M&P 2.0 a slept on platform? It's a common gun at competitions, and it's a common gun on the range in general. Additionally, it's one of the most common pistols in LE alongside Glock and Sig.
@@Osprey1994people do buy them, yes. It does seem weird though that nobody talks about them on a day to day outside of list videos like they do Glocks or whatever the new hotness is. I think it comes from a boringly high level of reliability. Nobody ever has drama with them, so it has become so understood that they're excellent, almost outside of being in a conversation with other comparable guns in a group gun nerd setting. Because of that, it seems nobody feels the need to talk about them.
@@CrashRacknShootand there are very few companies the make parts for them, where I can almost make any Glock I want with purely aftermarket parts.
@@PointBlank65 true. Also is fine by me. There's nothing wrong with building guns. Been there, done it, still have fun with it. However, I do believe a firearm you truly trust your life to should be dead reliable out of the box and should remain stock, at least stock internals/functional components. Both Glocks and M&Ps have that reliability, and M&P, in a way, keeps the discipline alive to not fuck with it for the reasons you mentioned.
CZ P10C is my EDC. I love that pistol!
Good stuff
Love my PDP Pro... Always in my bag when I head out the door!
Love it.
Fine choice. Them triggers. 💪
I went with the Echelon because of the ergonomics and grip texture. Went with Patriot CNC magwell and mag bases for 20rds, Apex ext mag release and Guide rod. Holosun HS407 bolts right on and went with a surefire X300 so it would fit in a Comptak holster. Only have about 1k rounds thru it so far, but loving it. It's really smooth and quick to get back on target. I think it's a keeper.
I am really liking what is going on with the echelon.
Have you had the problem with the baseplate coming off and dropping your ammo all over the ground?
@@dean7673 Never, but I inspected mine to be sure they were installed correctly before I used them and have since replaced them with Patriot CNC Mag Bases that are very stout and increase capacity to 20 rounds. I chose to go 20 rounds so I can use my ETS loader, grab one row of ten, load them, and repeat and I'm loaded with no counting etc... in about 30 seconds a mag. I feel like with proper maintenance this is lifetime stuff.
@@TacticalConsiderations Your reviews definitely helped me make a solid decision. Keep up the good work man!
@@rfair123 makes sense, I’m very close to getting a Walther PDP. But the echelon looks very good too. What’s made you decide against the PDP?
I always recommend Glock and m&p 2.0 to everyone. I've got both and both always run. And for the money/features...m&p 2.0 is a damn good buy.
MP is a solid buy.
My PDP pro that I got after watching your video. Couldn't be happier , thank you !
glad you enjoy it.
Great list! Only thing missing in my opinion would be a Canik. Phenomenal trigger and ergonomics. Thanks for your videos!
Thanks for watching!
In the CZ triggers defense, not only is it amazing, but it’s also partially pre-cocked unlike the Walther PDP trigger which many say edges out that of the P-10
So for safety and trigger feel you can’t beat that P-10, and that’s just one of many amazing elements of the gun
The Walther triggers are partially pre-cocked as well.
@@oskar6661 hmm, I’ve heard otherwise but idk for sure
@@oskar6661 did some research and they are most definitely all fully pre cocked
There was argument with the PPQ on this matter but the overwhelming answer is they fully pre cocked it
The CZ is good.
I bought the P10c years ago with no optic cut, but man, a beautiful quick reset and a tack driver!!!
Great choice.
Love the cz p10. Found the optics ready model for $380. Great out of the box!
Now that's a steal!
Right on
You did well, Grasshopper!
CZ p10c is the pistol I recommend to any first time buyer. Excellent quality ,reliability and value and has the bonus of fitting a lot of holsters made for the Glock 19
The P10 series is a very solid set up.
*I do pay attention to you. Of the handguns shown by you, I own the Walther PDP F, the SA Echelon, the Sig Sauer P365 XMacro TACOPS, and the CZ P10 F. One of my personal favorites, not mentioned, is the Canik METE SFT. I am grateful for your enlightenment and guidance, Mike. Keep on rolling!* 🇺🇸💪🏼
I’ve got a Canik Mete sft and you’re right it is a great pistol for sure, stay safe out there brother.
How do you like the SA Echelon? I just got one this week, but I have not shot it yet. Thank you.
Good taste
@@Zona-dw9rp The Echelon is almost as good as the PDP. Some say as good. A few say better. I love my Echelon.
@@v.german11b Nice.
Everyone disses the Beretta APX series but it’s my favorite glock alternative. I bought the centurion for a class because it was like $300 and the rep at the store recommended it. I liked how it felt and it took some getting used to, but I shoot it well.
I don't it's solid
Love it! No hate here! 👍
Great options Mike, M&P M2 CORE Compact, Walter PDP compact, CZ P10c, Canik TP9 sc elite, PSA Dagger ported compact, plus Sig p365 XL with X macro lower are pretty much reliable guns
So much good stuff these days.
Beretta APX is another great option, the only draw back for me is its width. But with that extra weight it’s a smooth shooter for sure. Great info 😎
Very true
Gotta say I think the P10C is the best out of the box striker on the market.
It is really solid for sure.
Just picked one up last week and absolutely love how it feels in my hand
Probably the most underrated poly framed, striker fired handgun in the game imo.
I just picked up a xmacro comp with the Icarus due to video thank you brother
Hell yes
@@TacticalConsiderations quick question brother what trigger or trigger kit did you upgrade with on the p365? Any recommendations? Thanks in advance.
@@hyunpark1337I installed a Mcarbo flat short stroke trigger and an Amory Craft ultimate spring kit in my XMacro but I kept the stock firing pin striker spring in it. It made the trigger a good bit better.
CZ P-10 series is the number one with a bullet imo. Inexpensive too. Mine has never once had an issue. They don’t have to pay a marketing team lol
the CZ is a great price point and performance.
We are for sure living in the Golden Age of Firearms. So much to choose from lol at this rate, might as well have a different Pistol for every day of the month. My pockets are crying though 😂
Its crazy how much we have now.
Sure as hell is a good problem to have. Hell, I am coming up on 4k rounds through a damn PSA Dagger with zero drama! Lol imagine that. Even the bottom barrel guns have a high level of reliability.
I have the CZ P10C for my home defense. I alternate between my tp9 sc and shield plus for my EDC pistols
Good Stuff.
My favorites Walther PDP (4 & 5 inch), CZ P-10F, HK VP9 (3, 4 and Long Slide) and Sig P320 AXG Legion (only one in the P320 line)
I use the VP9 as well, such an awesome gun. God Bless you and your beautiful Family.
@@maverick_edc4014 Thank you!
Good stuff.
I love my Canik Elite SC, the trigger is the smoothest I’ve ever used.
Good stuff for sure.
What a lineup! I really like all of these.
Tough to dislike
S&W M&P 2.0 Metal OD Green Spec Series is my EDC, Duty, just phenomenal firearm, my go to for everything!
Nice.
Love my walther pdp
Very solid pistol
Highly recommend CZ P10 and M&P!
Both are great
The Shadow Systems and Bul clones are great options if you want to take advantage of Glock parts ubiquity but don't like the stock Glock grip
Right.
I’d add the apx a1 but that echelon is a wonderful shooter.
The apx is a great pistol.
I'm a big Smith & Wesson fan. I've got a suppressed M&P compact 9mm next to my bed, and a shield plus in my holster. The flat-faced trigger feels great, and I love the texture. Though I'm picking up my first CZ (Shadow 2) tomorrow, so I'll check back in if things change.
I'm not a huge fan of how thin the grip on a P365 feels, and the trigger isn't my favorite, but the X-Macro is an awesome option. 17 rounds in such a small formfactor is dope.
The macro is really solid
For me it would be my canik tp9da in bronze color , I absolutely love that double action trigger with the decocker
Good stuff.
My PDP
Good stuff
CZ P-10C. 2 armor owners that I know carry them and convinced Me to get it. Best gun I’ve ever had.
Glad you like it.
I “cheated” after 22 years with Glock, and shot a Shadow Systems MR920 Combat. Six months later Glock was out and the unofficial “Gen6” upgrade was in.
Now if I wasn’t on the Glock Operating System using Shadow Systems, I would be using the S&W M&P 2.0 Compact. For the price point now a days I would consider the CZ P10C. However I know it’s not a striker fired gun, I would go with the DA/SA CZ P-07, (before the P10C), probably with some Cajun Gunworks and/or CZ Customs magic done to it. I would love to see a little DA/SA love with a review of the P-07 and/or the P-09. 😎✌️
Awesome comments. I have similar tastes. I love the CZ P 07 and am planning to get a P 09 soon.
@@edsweeney6843I’ve got the P10c and the P07 and they are great, my P07 could use some Cajun Gun Woks love but I’m going to keep it the way is, they are both fine pistols.
Heck yeah man.
as past owner of the m&p 9mm first issue the factory grips were hogue-like rubber texture that didnt slip, the 2.0 is way to sandpapery for extended shooting evolutions way to many handguns are made that way now, thank heaven for talon grip people.
Talon grips on my Ruger Lcp 2, and my Canik Tp9 sf. Grips and slides.
I agree, I prefer the original M&P grip over the 2.0 grip. They went way too aggressive with it in my opinion.
I haven't noticed that I have put over 1k rounds in a single day through MP's without issues. But my hands are like sandpaper though.
Bul Armory Axe FS Tomahawk ported
This is what Glock SHOULD have built...
How the hell he missed the Bul is a great mystery! It's a $750 steal!
@@baxrok2. I’m not sure he’s reviewed it yet
The Bul Armory AXE is an amazing firearm. The ported Tomahawk was not for me, but the Hatchet was exactly what I was looking for. I would say it is perfect.
@@Scokat87 You might be right about the Tomahawk FS, but I'm pretty sure he's done something in the Axe line. Either way, I guess he wasn't that impressed!
Dude, I'm a fan. I wish you made this video 1 year ago. I moved from NYC to PA and wasted no time getting carry pistols for my wife and I. That said I was buying guns in pairs, and after 4 pairs (yes 8 guns) I settled on the Kimber R7 Mako for my wife and I couple months ago. No range time on them yet. I wish I had the benefit of this video at the beginning of my handgun selection journey. Great unbiased and informative video. If you can, please review the R7 Mako in depth. Thanks in advance.
Much appreciated. I have a series of these coming for people who are not glock fans.
VP9…stop playing..but I do love my P365 AXG Legion
Its ok.
Great review. I have an Echlon and really like it. I’m a big fan of chassis based firearms for ease of maintenance. This gun is just great all the way around. I’ve had a lot of internet trolls say “that gun sucks and so do you if you like it”
Those are probably airsoft guys or call of duty gamers. Doesn’t matter. Also have a Sig X Macro based on your opinion of them. That is a great EDC.
Once there are slide and grip module options I thunk it's gonna take off.
Canik elite SC.
Good stuff.
For those with thick hands but short fingers the M&P fits great! It's my favorite and works the best for me.
MP is a great rig.
I’ve got 2 M&P 9s and I really enjoy these pistols. Two years ago I got the PDP and PDF, love both of these. The PDP is my go to gun. I have about 15000 rds in this pistol and it has performed flawlessly. PDF is just great as well. I also have the Echelon and it’s one I shoot several times a week and I’d buy it again. Lastly and surprised me how well it shoots is the Sig P320 X Compact. I’m surprised how well I can hit with this small but chunky gun. I’d say right now it’s tied even with my PDP. I’m looking for the 4.7” 320 right now.
Thank you! Great reviews.
Thanks for watching I appreciate you sharing your experience.
I am a Glock guy, honestly only brand of pistol I own. If I had to switch out of those I would go M&P. I could set those up like I have my glocks set up with different sizes and magazine compatibility
Nothing wrong with liking what you like.
Lack of APX is disheartening
Agreed, you can never go wrong with a Beretta
There will be a follow up video with 5 more.
I have a Walter PDP compact I would also have a Springfield Ranger Officer Champion in caliber 45 both are great pistols
Very nice
Glock may not be the best pistol in the world, but it is definitely the best pistol “platform” in the world.
ehhhh maybe.
Trigger, smooth slide and the way I shoot my p10c. M&P core 9 also
Both are good
P10C is my daily cc
Nice tis good stuff.
I LOVE my Taurus G2c 9mm!!
Glad you enjoy it.
All 5 of these pistols are handsdown much better then a Glock. Glock still hasn't innovated in over 30 years. Their stuck
Say it ain't so lol.
Spelling, it's that important. Refuse take a guy seriously that can't manipulate 5th grade grammar.
@@thefrogking481 If you can't take him seriously, why bother responding? 😀
Gotta say, your channel has risen straight to the top of my most watched lists. Listen on my way to work and it just puts me in a good mood. Thanks.
Hard to beat the SIG Macro, but I went with the Springfield Hellcat Pro mainly due to price. Picked up the Pro with the 17 round gear up package with 5 mags and a range case. But I still want the Macro. Damn, so many guns so little money.
I appreciate that.
Sig denigrates itself by their hatred for its customers. Worst customer service in the industry!
I have heard that a lot.
P10C OR I have 2 With night sights, I picked up on sale for around 300 each. Followed by BUL Armory Cleaver.
Nice.
Great video. It’s hard to argue against any of those I have all of them except I got the p10c and xr920 elite. I’m going to give an honorable mention to the Arex Delta X gen 2. I got the tactical od green model a couple months ago for $450.
That arex is a good one as well
Walther, Carl Walther
Good stuff.
Have had the Echelon for about a year now and it is by leaps and bounds my favorite duty-size pistol I have ever owned. Everything I have seen indicates the PDP is also a home run, but there’s just not room in my life right now for two primary pistols.
That one came in right
First here
yeah buddy
Keep up the amazing work my brother
I bought a PDP pro about a year ago, awesome pistol, no feed issues at all even suppressed… my Glocks are doing a lot of sitting around now!
Glad to hear it.
Don't own a Glock but I do qualify with the Glock 23 at my job. I wish the trigger were a little better but it seems to be a reliable pistol. I recently bought the Springfield Echelon and absolutely love it. Great reviews!
Trigger and grip angle fixes would make a lot of people happy.
Just picked up the P10F !
Niiiiice
I like the smith and Wesson
My favorite is the mp shield 45
Smith has a lot of advantages.
I own a CZ P-10 F and I love it!! Best pistol I’ve ever shot. My home defense gun.
Sweet trigger, accurate shooter, low recoil, and just looks bad ass! 😁
They are great pistols.
I have the PDP, the XMacro, and the CZ. However I still love me some Glock (G45 and G19).
My all time fave is the CZ P10C and P07. I also love my 4 inch PDP F and a few M&P's.
Both are solid choices.
CZ P10S with Holosun 507c with ACSS reticle.
Good stuff
Love my p10f. Seems like everyone is talking about the p10 recently, I believe CZ's gonna have some big updates on the series this year
That would be good
Love my Echelon. Makes my G45 collect dust.
Glad you like it
Yes! The new M&P shield 2.0 is Extremely impressive! Im former LEO and im a Glock boy lmao. That being said. I love the shield and alot of the picks in the video. The Walther, M&P and Canik among other are great choices!
Get your hands on and try as many as you can to find witch one works well for you!
N like grand thumb says, get out and train.
Well said!
My go-to is the Sig P365 series. Whether it's the X, XL, or X Macro, the modularity and aftermarket options are great and it is a great do-all choice. As for the grip texture, the Wilson Combat grip is an affordable option and more aggressive than the stock Sig or you can go for another aftermarket option in metal like the Icarus Precision grips.
Good stuff there
Love my P10C, as you said, love the trigger, also has 90% holster compatible with Glock holsters.
Great pistol.
I like my CZ P10’s (C Tac, C & F), S&W M&P 2.0 5”, Archon Type B (Gen 1 now) STI Spartan 1911 (yes 9mm single stack), H&K VP9 Sig P226 Legion RXP are all guns I like better than my Glocks (G417/34, G319, 44 & G517mos)
Good stuff all around
I’ve gone through all these on the list. The only one that got a spot next to my Glock is the CZP10. But I still primarily use my Glocks.
Nice.
In the past couple of months I got the Walther PDP 4" and just recently the Walther PDP-F 4". Both are impressive.
The pdp is a great pistol
great list i think FN would be a good mention
Good call!
I have a Glock 19x and I’m a Glock fan but I also own 2 Canik pistols and love them I also own a Tisas pistol and for the low price the trigger is amazing and it runs great
I need to get that new tisas 2011.
I really like my Springfield hellcat pro,picked it over a glock 26 & 19.buying the echelon as soon as it hits California
That echelon is turning out to be solid
My first pistol is the 4” PDP for my USPSA matches. Springco recoil system. Taylor freelance brass back strap and SRO optic. Loved it so much, I picked up the 4.5” OD green PDP and all the same upgrades as my 4”. Also added the $20 trigger spring kit to make the trigger lighter and smoother. Best gun ever!!
Niiiiiice.
After installation of the Glock Performance Trigger I fell back in love with my Gen 4 Glock 34.
My CZ P10f had issues with feeding the 1st round out of a full magazine so it's a range toy.
Thank you for the video
Thanks for watching.
My XD9 was badass just too heavy. I want a compact version of the echelon.
Compact echelon is gonna be dope
G19 Gen 4 and cz p10c… Can’t go wrong with ever you choose lots of great options
There is too much good stuff
Check out that Bul Axe Tomahawk for a Glock clone. Unbelievable value as usually from Bul - ported, slide cuts, mag well, and great trigger. Hundreds less than Shadow Systems.
I have four Springfield XDM models and they all shoot great, they are accurate and have been 100% reliable. HS Products makes great guns. Right now my edc alternates between my XDM Elite 3.8 9mm with Green Dot and a CZ P07 in .40, both are great carry options. I added Talon grip to both, the smoother version with a strip of the rough on the front and backstrap.
Those are solid as well
We're severely limited here in CA, but I happen to love my XDs. I know Springfield is a controversial brand, but those guns run really well.
I wish you guys in california got access to everything
Im still a glock fanboy but theses pistols all have something i wish glock would adopt but i love to accesorize my pistols to my liking so i get exactly what i want in the end result. I wouldnt trade my full custom g45 for any one of these. But i would feel comfortable carrying any of these on the list.
Nothing wrong with that.
Got the Glock Performance Trigger, feels kind of better but does for me shoot better. Had a Glock since 1992 and like them quite a bit but the new trigger is pretty cool.
Having a nicer trigger can improve the shooting experience
I have 4 of the 5 you reviewed so I am in agreement with your choices. I carry the Glock 43X MOS which I love. One more to try out is the Mossberg MC2C 9mm. It is about the same size and weight as the Glock 43X.
Nice.
I like Beretta APX compact WAY better than Glock. Honorable mention for M&P, too.
Good stuff.
Cz P10 is excellent, especially for the money. It’s ridiculous that you can get one for around 400 or less.
Yup prices really came down
Mike great choices and great video like always. There is so much good stuff out these days. I’ll still pick my p320s, but I have shot and or own/owned all but the echelon on your list and they are all great guns. Keep up the great work!
The p320 shoots good for sure.
Smith&wesson m&p 2.0,Rost Martin rm1c,Mossberg mc2c,Springfield hellcat pro,just to name a few
Nice.
As far as a favorite goes, from your picks, I really like the P365 because of the modularity and ability to go from a 10 round pocket pistol to a sub compact with 17 rounds. Shalotec has outdone the competitors with the modularity capabilities. Honestly I'm still on the fence about getting a new grip module/frame or leaving it as is with the Sharps Bro's and VZ Operator 2 grips. On another note, Shadow Systems is doing something that no other manufacturers are doing when it comes to a carry gun. I'm super intrigued and would love to get my hands on a full size and conceal Shadow Systems.
Good stuff for sure.
I've only owned 3 pistols; a Gen 3 G22, a P80c, and a CZ P10c.
I carried my P80 for about 5 years but since Colorado is going full California they're currently "illegal" so I bought the CZ last October and it is everything the CZ "hipsters" say it is. In the past I would sometimes have to fish for the dot when dry firing but now it's just always there.
I'm not going to steal Paul Harrell's thunder and say "this gun fits my hand better than this one"...but it does.
If I could change one thing it would be adding a QR code inside the box for a free optic plate of your chosen footprint. Not a deal breaker (obviously) but it would be a nice addition.
I prefer to get my slide cut to the optic of my choice. Try the P10SC, the P10F slide on the P10c frame.
The cz is a great choice.