@@genzigzag 27000 km's. Interior has held up like new when we clean it and that's with a 5 year old and 2 year old boy doing their best to keep it messy lol
4:00 Andrea made an observation about the lane change camera and bicycle safety. GREAT observation, and something no one else has mentioned! I've even heard reviewers say that it wasn't a useful feature (Edmunds). The real-world observations Andrea makes are SO USEFUL. Thank you guys!
Great review you two! 👏 I can see why you two, and so many other consumers like this vehicle. The Telluride has a familiar, but also a distinctive exterior design. I like the way it looks on the road too. Kia must be ecstatic with all the awards and attention this vehicle is getting from the industry and Consumers. All that research and development they have put into this vehicle is really showing. Great job Kia! 👏
Nice ride! Loved my previous 2 Kias and would highly recommend them to friends & family. Great service too from our local dealer. Thanks for the review.
The Telluride is one of the best looking mainstream vehicles. I purchased my 2020 Explorer in July of 2020 and my biggest regret was not considering the Telluride. Awesome video as always 😁
I’m coming up on 2 years of having the Telluride and I have to say I love it as much as I did in that honeymoon period. I live in NYC and the size, packaging cannot be beat. The new Nissan Pathfinder that is coming out later this year may be the first serious competition, we shall see.
I bought a new Telluride over a year ago and it”s excellence has surpassed all my expectations, I’m a single guy, but at a vertically gifted 6ft 7in I really appreciate the roominess and luxury. I was pleasantly surprised by my awd getting better than 24 mpg in city driving. It also has excellent acceleration. In 2020 the Telluride won more automotive awards than any other vehicle ever had in one year. My friends describe my Telluride as limo with suv capabilities!
@ That problem stemmed from KIA dealers' initial reluctance to believe that their traditional "budget constrained" customers would be unwilling to pay $50,000 (US) for a KIA. Thus, they ordered too few upper trims and KIA responded by building fewer top trim models. The issue has eased somewhat but the effect of the pandemic, especially in limiting KIA's suppliers' problems of meeting demand has extended it.
ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR REVIEWS!! So thorough and complete. You really cover all the bases of the vehicles you review. Love your energy also. Keep up the GREAT work!!👍🏽 I have been eyeing the Telluride since it’s debut and even after seeing it at the car show, your review has my mind made up to get this Nightfall edition.
Not sure if anyone has commented on this before but I just love the area that you do the test drives in. Those hedges are immaculate and must cost a fortune to maintain!! Been to Vancouver twice in my life and it is one of the most beautiful cities I've ever visited. And I've visited a lot of cities and countries all over the world. Love your reviews and actually just got a Hyundai Santa Fe Limited last week based on yours and others review of it. Thank you!!
Great video! You two are the best. So happy to see another telluride video. I’ve had my Telluride for 5 weeks and love it! I totally agree with all your points vs the Palisade.
@@andreaspencer9813 do you prefer the new sorento over the Telluride. Also, night lights segment is a really great addition to your videos, but the quality capture isn't really there. Maybe need to use a wider angle lens or a larger sensor camera. I would also love to see a KIA Carnival SX with VIP second row video!
@@AustinHitchcock I really like the size of the Sorento and the fit and finish is beautiful. If I needed extra space and all 7/8 seats in use most of the time, I would get the Telluride. If I only need 6/7 seats in a pinch, I would buy the Sorento.
@@andreaspencer9813 Exactly our family's calculus, Andrea. We're a family of four (Two adults, a teenage driver, and a big dog.) The Sorento is a "Goldilocks" vehicle for us. At 189" long it's about 8" shorter and 3" narrower than the Telluride making it easier to maneuver and park in the jungle of suburban traffic than the Telluride. I'd estimate we use the third row less than 10% of the time. But on those occasions when we need to transport 6/7 passengers on a short journey, the third row is a HUGE convenience compared to using two vehicles.
Finally took delivery of mine- NOV 2020 Glacial white pearl/ Black Nappa Leather seat trim , SX nightfall edition, SX prestige package, Towing package. Also got every option offered except= mud guard kit, cross bars. This build originally started in December 2019, got cancelled because of covid-19 for the 2020 model. New build submitted for the 2021 model August 2020 with a completed due date of November 2020. I was glad I'm getting the 2021 model instead of the 2020 model. Because of the added remote start on the key fob to the nightfall addition package on the 2021 model all nice additions. The only thing is I prefer the 2020 style wheels to the nightfall edition style wheels for the 2021 edition., but those wheels are starting to grow on me.
Great review. @6:57 completely agree with you Zack - it so frustrating they force you into Captains Chairs on the top trim models, especially when 3rd row seating is not designed for adults to spend any significant time in. Exactly the same with the Palisade. Honda did that with the Pilot for a while and finally came to their senses.
I bought a 2021 Telluride after a 6 month waiting period back in Feb this year. My only complain is that I dont get its advertised fuel efficiency even when driving on eco mode. Nice video folks.
Yes I agree with you guys. I believe the telluride really changed everything along with their cousin Hyundai and just the updated lineup all around but telluride started it and that’s what got me into really looking at Kia and just last month needed to move into an SUV for the family and the Sorento just hit everything me and my family wanted and needed. Great vid!
Nice accurate review of such disruptive SUV! Exact same trim and color I ride. Wished they had Nappa Dune Brown leather in Canada though. Was able to reach 8.9L/100km on highway cruising at 118-123 kmh !
i had no idea! in the US they get 9 interior color options! that's crazy. We only get the light grey on some exterior colors. Very sad. I dont know why manufacturers do this in general...always limits the interior color options and limits it to certain exterior colors.
@@ezbacc Kia is prioritizing markets. As a matter of facts , last year in Canada, 2800+ Tellurides where sold which is very little compared to 75000+ in USA. Going through forums it appears Nappa Dune Brown is on back order nowadays. Thus extended wait time and likely upgrade to the 2022 model year for those since the factory has stopped taking 2021 orders.
You both have done an excellent review of this vehicle! I purchased the 2020 Telluride SX 4-5 mths after it was released in the Canadian market. I've owned Toyota Highlanders, Honda Passport, Acura RDX, Honda Odyssey, etc and this is by far the very best all around, best value 3 row SUV on the current market. I've been researching vehicles for 30yrs...it's my favourite hobby! Cheers
Always, really enjoy your videos and appreciate your combined perspectives! I just shared with your video with our friends from Calgary; they've narrowed their search to this exact vehicle. Thanks!!
Lol, my neighbour also had a white Atlas and had nothing but issues. He now drives a white Telluride :) Loving the new Blacksky Edition. My only wish is that the black wheels were the same as the SX Prestige black wheels offered in the USA. Also for this being the top model, I wonder why there's no nappa leather included. Perhaps they are still having shortage issues with it which is why they began offering a non-nappa limited version for 2020. There doesn't seem to be much of a wait here in Ottawa as I see them sitting on the lot and in the showroom when I take my Telluride in for servicing. By the way, I've been watching Zack for years and years. I really like this new format with the two of you presenting cars together! Many many online car reviewers out there but none quite compare to the fantastic job you two do!
You two do a phenomenal job/review. Here’s the cruncher, i would never ever see me buying one of these, due to fuel sucking engines, size (way too big for me). I’m more of a Kona guy. In fact that is what I own, and I’m happy happy happy with it. Also when prices topple the 60K - ouch, too rich for my blood. Thanks again. Oh I really got into the hour long sessions on Monday nights. Super!
Great review and lots of positives on the Telluride which it no doubt deserves. The only real knock on the Telluride for potential customers ironically is how successful and popular it is and thus the continuous high demand leading to inflated prices and long waiting times for delivery. Demand is so high many people are paying 5k or more over MSRP and many are happy to do so just to have one before their next door neighbor gets theirs! Great for Kia and their dealers but with an expected price hike for the 2022's across the trim levels the value proposition is getting watered down a bit. I think a fully loaded SX in the USA in 2019 was under 47k before taxes now many SX's are listed in the low 50k's! Overall looks like a great vehicle but it's only going to get more expensive especially in the so popular SX trim in the USA.
You’s finally got a Telluride my Aunty has one she’s got the SX prestige in that beautiful black she loves it I’ve driven it many times and didn’t wanna hand it back so I bought myself one a grey SX prestige I live in Los Angeles and these things are everywhere Btw are you’s gonna review the new Kia Carnival
Excellent review, folks. A few observations from south of the (Canadian) border about the Telluride. Though the Telluride and Palisade are cousins, perhaps even siblings, their design objectives and competition are quite distinct. The Telluride is built in Georgia and sold almost exclusively in North America (not available even in Korea) while the Palisade is built in Korea and aimed at a wide variety of international markets as well as North America. Thus, the Telluride competes against a whole range of mainstream midsize unibody SUVs (e.g. Explorer, Highlander, Pilot, Ascent, Atlas, Traverse, CX-9 etc) that are rare or even unavailable in Asia and Europe. The Palisade, on the other hand, is mainly up against more expensive premium or luxury brands in Asia and Europe. (e.g. Audi, Mercedes Benz, Volvo, etc.). As a result, the Telluride leans toward a "rugged" vibe that North Americans love while the Palisade projects a premium or even a "budget luxury" image in markets where luxury trumps rugged. That's not to say that the North American market is unimportant for Hyundai but the overall emphasis of the Palisade is meant to appeal to markets where the middle class is growing and affordable luxury is a huge selling point. Thus, the Telluride projects a tough, masculine truck-like vibe that lacks the digital cockpit eye candy, the motor driven third row folding seats, and the faux quilted upholstery of the top trim Palisades. Different markets, different emphasis. When KIA reached the final stages of development for the Telluride the company believed they had a winner. With that in mind they optimistically planned to produce 50,000 Tellurides in the first calendar year. KIA dealers were also optimistic but they were accustomed to budget constrained customers who hoped to find a bargain in a KIA showroom. So when KIA asked dealers which trim levels they believed would be the most popular, the response was that the volume sellers would be the base and one step up trims. Dealers ordered accordingly and KIA began building what dealers ordered. As it turned out both KIA and dealers were spectacularly wrong. Demand was overwhelming and much to dealers' surprise customers were more than happy to spend $50,000 (US) or even more for a KIA. The company rushed to expand production in Georgia but that wasn't like flipping a switch. Hiring and training more workers and setting up new production lines takes time. And like all automakers many of the components in their vehicles came from third party suppliers who found ramping up production to be even more of a challenge than KIA, itself. For a while, in fact, production of the top trim SXL model with the "premium package" was effectively halted because KIA couldn't get enough captain chairs from their suppliers. In the end KIA's estimate of selling 50K Tellurides fell short of reality. Almost 60,000 Tellurides were sold in the first year of availability. And even that didn't meet demand. In 2020, the sales went up again to over 75,000 units. For dealers the result meant adding "market adjustment" stickers to the vehicles they received, creating long waiting lists of customers, or both. All of this in the midst of the COVID pandemic that impacted production in Georgia while KIA still struggled to meet demand. Had dealers been able to fill their orders, US sales of Tellurides would probably have reached over 100,000 units in 2020. Meanwhile, by the way, Hyundai's production of Palisades in Korea was hardly affected as the country actually controlled the pandemic with only a few hundred casualties compared to half a million deaths in the US. The difference being between a competent and a completely incompetent national government. So while the Telluride outsold the Palisade by a ratio of 2 to 1 in 2019 in the US, Hyundai outsold KIA with over 81,000 US Palisade sales in 2020. The good news is that the long wait for would-be Telluride customers has eased somewhat. What was a six month wait for a top trim Telluride in 2019 from my local dealer has shrunk to about half that. Still, much to the displeasure of my dealer, his Hyundai competitor has comparable Palisades sitting on his lot ready for customers.
Great review, as usual. My 'one thing' would be to have split (even quasi) exhaust pipes on this vehicle. It's a bit like they stopped at the 2 yard line with the badass look.
Great reviewing job, as Always!!!!!!! Interesting the new kia logo isn't there, yet. Nice ride if u need to carry that many ppl. It's so impressive how far they have come along in such a short period of time. V6, auto transmission, smart moves. This will cement them, once the new logo comes on it. Ppl still see kia and think bad things from their past. Wake up folks. Zack ur knowledge is great, and honesty. Andrea, u can sell anything. More ppl sure know more about u guys reviewing cars. Cheers from MTL.
@@stephenhendricks103 , wow u’ve got that all wrong🙄. The timing of my purchase happens to coincide with new logo, i was just curious. Simple question. Geeze chill
Got my black copper ex nightfall in December, love it. Oddly enough these aren’t extremely common in the metro Detroit area, you’re falling over explorers though
Still king! Huge hit! And about time, at least for those of us who like a great value. The problem, though, is that the out-the-door price on a loaded model is not the value that many of us were hoping for, as Kia dealerships are selling them above MSRP. Here in the New York metropolitan area, I am seeing used ones listed for more than the MSRP on a new one. In fact, I have seen a used one listed for $55k (yes, US dollars), that’s $6k over the MSRP on a brand new top trim model. Zack hit the nail on the head: Why can’t Kia offer the top trim with the bench seat, at least as an option? Just like one of your viewers, I would take the Telluride’s exterior with the Palisade’s interior.
Not all KIA dealers indulge in price gouging with "market adjustment" stickers. My KIA dealer has a policy of never exceeding MSRP for any new vehicle. But the downside of that policy is the existence of much longer waiting lists for delivery. As for wanting a bench seat option in a top trim, KIA isn't alone in their market research that indicates customers willing to pay top dollar for an SUV overwhelmingly prefer second row captain chairs. It's simply the case that those with more disposable income typically place a lower priority on extra seating and a higher priority on roominess behind the first row. Why not offer it as an option? Simple. If you were already selling every single top trim vehicle you can produce with captain chairs why would you divert production to a model with less appeal to your target consumer?
Great review as always. One thing to note when comparing the telluride to premium brands is a lot of dealers have markups on these vehicles. A loaded nightfall package in my area is easily $57K USD.
This may be easily overlooked but what I really like in this "lower end" SUV vs the luxuery German 7 passenger SUVs is that the 2nd row seat folds in an instance for 3rd row entry. WOW, you actually don't have to hold a button for 3 years for that seat to fold AND unfold. 7:24
Same point holds in regard to the power folding third row seats in the Palisade vs the manual method in the Telluride. The Palisade's power folding system makes watching paint dry an engaging activity compared to raising/lowering the rear seat backs.
this is my first time watching your channel, and I'm very impressed I really like the format I thought it was a very well-presented and engaging video. nice job!
Thank you so much, really glad you enjoyed our review. We put out two couple reviews a week. One on Wednesday in the afternoon and another Saturday morning. We also do a comparison video every Tuesday.
We just subscribed! Thanks for the fun/causal style of car talk! I have this trim in "gravity grey"; LOVING it :) One thing I'd change is the location of the wireless charging pad inside the bottom of the centre compartment, so I wouldn't need to take thing before charging my phone---I wish it'd be like the Seltos/new Sorento where it's on a second tier from the bottom and inward. Anyway, that's really a minor thing though. Look forward to your future videos!
@@ginger_breadman who you telling. Lol i did research for months and don’t know how I missed that. It wasn’t until we switched drivers the next day that I noticed it.
Thinking about getting one. With the chip shortage, leaning to waiting till the next years model comes out. Hope they add a full digital instrument display. Want the SX model.
Kia has come a long ways and seriously gives the competition a run for their money. However, the 4th generation Highlander Platinum gets my vote, but it’s close!
If I remember correctly there were thousands of these lost when the ship they were on capsized. That would put a serious delay in the supply chain that they still have not recovered from.
@Michael Mankowski Actually, it was on a ship bound from Georgia to Baltimore. That may sound odd but transporting a large number of vehicles from Georgia to a more centrally located mid-Atlantic location from which they can be transported to individual dealers makes sense.
Love the telluride but will it have the resale value of a pilot or the Hylander? I mean if you keep it for 12 years who cares, but what about after 8years. Not a big deal but used kia products lose alot of value. Thoughts?
@@InstinctiveFirearmReviews we old geezers think differently. 2011 MKX with 106K KM -- even the service people said "keep it". Sure do like the GV80 though.
I have been waiting for your review! Love your channel! Trying to decide btwn Nightfall (USA) and 2022 Acura MDX. My husband says MDX feels/drive/looks more sporty, but I like the space/look of Nightfall. Cost, reliability, and safety are factors we will have to weigh out...
My wife and I are also contemplating the Telluride vs. the MDX technology. I like the presence of the MDX and the comfort of knowing Honda’s reliability is behind it. You get a bit more with the Telluride for your money but I’m hesitant of Kia’s long term reliability. I know the warranty is better but I don’t want to have to use a warranty. Midlife Mom & Andrea/Zack, your thoughts?
@@kevinsonnenberg2868 Apart from the driving dynamics Telluride offers much more than the MDX at the middle and top trims. As we speak used Tellurides sell at MSRP with 30K+ kms on it. Btw the factory is already retooling for the 2022 Telluride and no longer accepts 2021 orders ..
@@kevinsonnenberg2868 Kia and Hyundai's reliability has improved greatly. The recent JD Power dependability study put Kia in 3rd place behind Lexus and Porsche. Hyundai is in 7th.
Such a big car! I could never drive it and wouldn't even think of parking it. No AWD for me. I live in South Florida so luckily no snow. I also don't like the idea of a black car in Florida, but that's personal. Lots of people have black cars here. But this looks like a nice car with good value if you're driving a lot of people. Good to see you both on a Saturday!
What this murdered out version needs on the interior is Carbon Fibre and lots of it! The wood is beautiful whether it’s real or not. Tastefully done. But this dipped in Black model needs all the wood replaced with Carbon Fibre and the pewter chrome needs to be blacked out. The TELLURIDE still blows my mind two years after release. I’m not an SUV guy, but I love this one. Give it 60 more HP for 351 and bump up the torque while you’re at it and the sales of this Range Rover/Porsche look alike tank will continue to accelerate.
Love both the Telluride and the Palisade but ultimately we went with the Palisade 1.5 years ago. The fact that Kia had none available for a test drive was the major deciding factor.
Yes, I can't imagine buying the second most expensive item one ever owns and not be able to see a full array of models, colors both exterior and interior and take a test drive for a reasonable time period. Looking forward to seeing the Tucson and the Ionic5 but just wish that they were a bit larger.
We don’t get the Kia in Australia, but we do get the Palasade. If the Kia is the best 3 row now on sale, should I assume the Hyundai is a great second choice for Australia??
We got really lucky and decided to go to our local Kia dealership. They just happen to have received two on the car carrier that day. We drove her home the following day with no dealer markup.
I totally agree with Zach on the white color and silver chrome. Glad to know I’m not the only one out there who just can’t get into the blacked out chrome look. I just test drove this exact car, SX in Copper Black with Nightfall package. It was literally the only Telluride available in my area but I just couldn’t get past all the black, not a fan of the blacked out chrome at all. That with the black body color and black interior, it was just WAY too much. I also think the grill and wheels on the nightfall package actually cheapen the look of the vehicle. Needless to say I placed my order for a white one with silver chrome, I can handle the black wheels. 😆 What can I say, I’m old fashioned. The dealership is saying the wait time right now is about three months.
We looked at both in October 2019. We went with the Palisade as wifey preferred it over the Telluride. She would get another Palisade, but not another me again. ☹️ She loves it that much, and says I’m still ok though. ☹️👍🇨🇦
@@midlifemom5829 I think the MDX overall is more premium. Interior materials are a step up with the new MDX, a more sporty drive and engaging engine. It has a button shifter as you'd know vs traditional stick shifter in the Telluride that some might not care for. I believe the MDX also has a better AWD system. The Telluride info screen is touchscreen vs touchpad in MDX, something definitely to consider as many don't like the touchpad. I'd say you get more features for your money with the Telluride, an MDX with the technology package and SH-AWD is around 55k at this price you're still missing features the Telluride SX offers and you'd have to get the Advance package on the MDX at 60k or so to be comparable in features. I summary -Telluride more roomy, more features for the money and better value, MDX a bit more premium, better handling but more expensive!
@@MIZUNOMP60 , thanks for the reply! I agree with you. The steeper MDX price tag to match Telluride’s amenities is considerable, which makes me hold back. But I see how MDX is a better handling car.
6:55 - this right here is what i have always wondered, but i think the companies going for that ultimate look / experience even the client isn't looking to get in that config, sorta low key push.
What about the GPS. How will the navigation update does it have Wi-Fi at 8 have to use your phone or something to update the GPS on the vehicle itself ?
2 weeks? 60 days? Because I'm not willing to pay a 20% markup (which is all too common in CA for the SXAWD model) I got on the waiting list to order in SEPTEMBER 2020, and didn't even get to submit the order into the KFOS ordering system until MARCH 2021 -- and the dealer now shows a JUNE 2021 delivery date, meaning I'll have been waiting for my car for at least 10 months.......
Tell me how this thing or any Kia are the best things on the market after you roll past 100K miles. Kia and Hyundai aren't exactly known for their reliability down the road.
The first time I saw one on the road I had to double take because I thought it was a Range Rover. Nice work Kia
Had our Telluride SX since November 2019. Still love it as much as the day we got it. Zero issue.
Curious how many kms/mi you have on it and how has the interior held up? Thanks!
@@genzigzag 27000 km's. Interior has held up like new when we clean it and that's with a 5 year old and 2 year old boy doing their best to keep it messy lol
Been driving my Telluride SX for two years (bought in April 2019). Great ride!
How’s the reliability so far?
Total telluride sales will prove the credibility you are talking about.
Cars with the best ratings from consumers
How many miles now, reliable?
We have a 2020 Telluride and love it. Great safety features and so much fun to drive.
4:00 Andrea made an observation about the lane change camera and bicycle safety. GREAT observation, and something no one else has mentioned!
I've even heard reviewers say that it wasn't a useful feature (Edmunds).
The real-world observations Andrea makes are SO USEFUL. Thank you guys!
Andrea you have gotten so good and comfortable as a presenter!
The Nightlife pictures were fantastic!
Agree!
Wow, thank you so much! :)
@@joshuasyrtash860 Thank you very much!
Agree. She’s awesome 😎
@@maebeeee Thank you! :)
We have owned 5 Toyotas… this telluride is going to be top consideration for the next car..
Awesome video! This vehicle you call it rugged, I call it monster. It’s big in both interiors and exterior. Awesome guys! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. Yes it's a big vehicle, people just love it though.
Great review you two! 👏
I can see why you two, and so many other consumers like this vehicle. The Telluride has a familiar, but also a distinctive exterior design. I like the way it looks on the road too. Kia must be ecstatic with all the awards and attention this vehicle is getting from the industry and Consumers. All that research and development they have put into this vehicle is really showing. Great job Kia! 👏
Thanks for watching! Really glad you enjoyed the review.
Nice ride! Loved my previous 2 Kias and would highly recommend them to friends & family. Great service too from our local dealer. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for watching! :)
The Telluride is one of the best looking mainstream vehicles. I purchased my 2020 Explorer in July of 2020 and my biggest regret was not considering the Telluride. Awesome video as always 😁
Thank you very much!
Your biggest regret was not considering a less than 300 hp/tq suv while you have a 415/400 ST? Psh, you’re out of this world lol
I’m coming up on 2 years of having the Telluride and I have to say I love it as much as I did in that honeymoon period. I live in NYC and the size, packaging cannot be beat. The new Nissan Pathfinder that is coming out later this year may be the first serious competition, we shall see.
Thanks for sharing. Can't wait to drive the new Pathfinder.
The look is on point! I’m really starting to like Kia’s lately
it really looks nice
I bought a new Telluride over a year ago and it”s excellence has surpassed all my expectations, I’m a single guy, but at a vertically gifted 6ft 7in I really appreciate the roominess and luxury. I was pleasantly surprised by my awd getting better than 24 mpg in city driving. It also has excellent acceleration. In 2020 the Telluride won more automotive awards than any other vehicle ever had in one year. My friends describe my Telluride as limo with suv capabilities!
@ That problem stemmed from KIA dealers' initial reluctance to believe that their traditional "budget constrained" customers would be unwilling to pay $50,000 (US) for a KIA. Thus, they ordered too few upper trims and KIA responded by building fewer top trim models. The issue has eased somewhat but the effect of the pandemic, especially in limiting KIA's suppliers' problems of meeting demand has extended it.
Loving your rave review! I feel the same way about the Telluride. I wanted one when they came out and I want one even more today!
Thanks for watching!
the reviews are so much better now as a DUO! LOVE IT!
ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOUR REVIEWS!! So thorough and complete. You really cover all the bases of the vehicles you review. Love your energy also. Keep up the GREAT work!!👍🏽 I have been eyeing the Telluride since it’s debut and even after seeing it at the car show, your review has my mind made up to get this Nightfall edition.
Wow, thank you so much! I think it looks so sharp in black.
love the review again andrea love the night lights pictures with the beautiful city background also dont ever get rid of the jazzy music
Thank you so much, glad you love the review! I like the jazzy music too. :)
Not sure if anyone has commented on this before but I just love the area that you do the test drives in. Those hedges are immaculate and must cost a fortune to maintain!! Been to Vancouver
twice in my life and it is one of the most beautiful cities I've ever visited. And I've visited a lot of cities and countries all over the world. Love your reviews and actually just got a Hyundai Santa Fe Limited last week based on yours and others review of it. Thank you!!
Yes, we are so lucky to live here, it is stunning. Glad you like the reviews!!
Great video! You two are the best. So happy to see another telluride video. I’ve had my Telluride for 5 weeks and love it! I totally agree with all your points vs the Palisade.
Thank you very much!
@@andreaspencer9813 do you prefer the new sorento over the Telluride.
Also, night lights segment is a really great addition to your videos, but the quality capture isn't really there. Maybe need to use a wider angle lens or a larger sensor camera.
I would also love to see a KIA Carnival SX with VIP second row video!
@@AustinHitchcock I really like the size of the Sorento and the fit and finish is beautiful. If I needed extra space and all 7/8 seats in use most of the time, I would get the Telluride. If I only need 6/7 seats in a pinch, I would buy the Sorento.
@@AustinHitchcock As well, we will be reviewing the Carnival when it arrives in the press fleet, just waiting for it.
@@andreaspencer9813 Exactly our family's calculus, Andrea. We're a family of four (Two adults, a teenage driver, and a big dog.) The Sorento is a "Goldilocks" vehicle for us. At 189" long it's about 8" shorter and 3" narrower than the Telluride making it easier to maneuver and park in the jungle of suburban traffic than the Telluride. I'd estimate we use the third row less than 10% of the time. But on those occasions when we need to transport 6/7 passengers on a short journey, the third row is a HUGE convenience compared to using two vehicles.
I have my 2021 Pearl white sx with butterscotch interior since November. I absolutely love love it. The warranty and safety features beat everybody.
Finally took delivery of mine- NOV 2020
Glacial white pearl/ Black Nappa Leather seat trim , SX nightfall edition, SX prestige package, Towing package. Also got every option offered except= mud guard kit, cross bars. This build originally started in December 2019, got cancelled because of covid-19 for the 2020 model. New build submitted for the 2021 model August 2020 with a completed due date of November 2020. I was glad I'm getting the 2021 model instead of the 2020 model. Because of the added remote start on the key fob to the nightfall addition package on the 2021 model all nice additions. The only thing is I prefer the 2020 style wheels to the nightfall edition style wheels for the 2021 edition., but those wheels are starting to grow on me.
Great review. @6:57 completely agree with you Zack - it so frustrating they force you into Captains Chairs on the top trim models, especially when 3rd row seating is not designed for adults to spend any significant time in. Exactly the same with the Palisade. Honda did that with the Pilot for a while and finally came to their senses.
Thanks for watching, glad you liked it.
I bought a 2021 Telluride after a 6 month waiting period back in Feb this year. My only complain is that I dont get its advertised fuel efficiency even when driving on eco mode. Nice video folks.
Excellent review, thanks for this! Andrea you look gorgeous and are just so good at reviewing. Well done you two! 👏
Thank you! :)
Yes I agree with you guys. I believe the telluride really changed everything along with their cousin Hyundai and just the updated lineup all around but telluride started it and that’s what got me into really looking at Kia and just last month needed to move into an SUV for the family and the Sorento just hit everything me and my family wanted and needed.
Great vid!
Thanks for watching! I really liked the Sorento, perfect size.
Two nitpicks for exterior is the exhaust tip, should be duals and aftermarket looking foglights
Nice accurate review of such disruptive SUV! Exact same trim and color I ride. Wished they had Nappa Dune Brown leather in Canada though. Was able to reach 8.9L/100km on highway cruising at 118-123 kmh !
Agreed, that Dune Brown Nappa leather on the Dark Moss looks classy
i had no idea! in the US they get 9 interior color options! that's crazy. We only get the light grey on some exterior colors. Very sad. I dont know why manufacturers do this in general...always limits the interior color options and limits it to certain exterior colors.
@@ezbacc Kia is prioritizing markets. As a matter of facts , last year in Canada, 2800+ Tellurides where sold which is very little compared to 75000+ in USA. Going through forums it appears Nappa Dune Brown is on back order nowadays. Thus extended wait time and likely upgrade to the 2022 model year for those since the factory has stopped taking 2021 orders.
You both have done an excellent review of this vehicle! I purchased the 2020 Telluride SX 4-5 mths after it was released in the Canadian market. I've owned Toyota Highlanders, Honda Passport, Acura RDX, Honda Odyssey, etc and this is by far the very best all around, best value 3 row SUV on the current market. I've been researching vehicles for 30yrs...it's my favourite hobby!
Cheers
Thank you very much glad you enjoyed the review. As well, thanks for sharing your point of view too. BTW, it's a great hobby to have.
Always, really enjoy your videos and appreciate your combined perspectives! I just shared with your video with our friends from Calgary; they've narrowed their search to this exact vehicle. Thanks!!
You guys are awesome!!! Such a great vibe together. Super! Thanks.
Thank you so much!
Lol, my neighbour also had a white Atlas and had nothing but issues. He now drives a white Telluride :) Loving the new Blacksky Edition. My only wish is that the black wheels were the same as the SX Prestige black wheels offered in the USA. Also for this being the top model, I wonder why there's no nappa leather included. Perhaps they are still having shortage issues with it which is why they began offering a non-nappa limited version for 2020. There doesn't seem to be much of a wait here in Ottawa as I see them sitting on the lot and in the showroom when I take my Telluride in for servicing. By the way, I've been watching Zack for years and years. I really like this new format with the two of you presenting cars together! Many many online car reviewers out there but none quite compare to the fantastic job you two do!
You two do a phenomenal job/review. Here’s the cruncher, i would never ever see me buying one of these, due to fuel sucking engines, size (way too big for me). I’m more of a Kona guy. In fact that is what I own, and I’m happy happy happy with it. Also when prices topple the 60K - ouch, too rich for my blood. Thanks again. Oh I really got into the hour long sessions on Monday nights. Super!
Love the review and the Telluride. Thanks for the response on IG Andrea!! Keep the great content coming you two!!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! You're so welcome, thanks for following along on IG. :)
car looks very sharp and aggressive (i like it)
Great review and lots of positives on the Telluride which it no doubt deserves. The only real knock on the Telluride for potential customers ironically is how successful and popular it is and thus the continuous high demand leading to inflated prices and long waiting times for delivery. Demand is so high many people are paying 5k or more over MSRP and many are happy to do so just to have one before their next door neighbor gets theirs! Great for Kia and their dealers but with an expected price hike for the 2022's across the trim levels the value proposition is getting watered down a bit. I think a fully loaded SX in the USA in 2019 was under 47k before taxes now many SX's are listed in the low 50k's! Overall looks like a great vehicle but it's only going to get more expensive especially in the so popular SX trim in the USA.
You’s finally got a Telluride my Aunty has one she’s got the SX prestige in that beautiful black she loves it I’ve driven it many times and didn’t wanna hand it back so I bought myself one a grey SX prestige I live in Los Angeles and these things are everywhere
Btw are you’s gonna review the new Kia Carnival
We sure will, just waiting for the Carnival to arrive in the press fleet.
Excellent review, folks. A few observations from south of the (Canadian) border about the Telluride.
Though the Telluride and Palisade are cousins, perhaps even siblings, their design objectives and competition are quite distinct. The Telluride is built in Georgia and sold almost exclusively in North America (not available even in Korea) while the Palisade is built in Korea and aimed at a wide variety of international markets as well as North America. Thus, the Telluride competes against a whole range of mainstream midsize unibody SUVs (e.g. Explorer, Highlander, Pilot, Ascent, Atlas, Traverse, CX-9 etc) that are rare or even unavailable in Asia and Europe. The Palisade, on the other hand, is mainly up against more expensive premium or luxury brands in Asia and Europe. (e.g. Audi, Mercedes Benz, Volvo, etc.).
As a result, the Telluride leans toward a "rugged" vibe that North Americans love while the Palisade projects a premium or even a "budget luxury" image in markets where luxury trumps rugged. That's not to say that the North American market is unimportant for Hyundai but the overall emphasis of the Palisade is meant to appeal to markets where the middle class is growing and affordable luxury is a huge selling point. Thus, the Telluride projects a tough, masculine truck-like vibe that lacks the digital cockpit eye candy, the motor driven third row folding seats, and the faux quilted upholstery of the top trim Palisades. Different markets, different emphasis.
When KIA reached the final stages of development for the Telluride the company believed they had a winner. With that in mind they optimistically planned to produce 50,000 Tellurides in the first calendar year. KIA dealers were also optimistic but they were accustomed to budget constrained customers who hoped to find a bargain in a KIA showroom. So when KIA asked dealers which trim levels they believed would be the most popular, the response was that the volume sellers would be the base and one step up trims. Dealers ordered accordingly and KIA began building what dealers ordered.
As it turned out both KIA and dealers were spectacularly wrong. Demand was overwhelming and much to dealers' surprise customers were more than happy to spend $50,000 (US) or even more for a KIA. The company rushed to expand production in Georgia but that wasn't like flipping a switch. Hiring and training more workers and setting up new production lines takes time. And like all automakers many of the components in their vehicles came from third party suppliers who found ramping up production to be even more of a challenge than KIA, itself. For a while, in fact, production of the top trim SXL model with the "premium package" was effectively halted because KIA couldn't get enough captain chairs from their suppliers.
In the end KIA's estimate of selling 50K Tellurides fell short of reality. Almost 60,000 Tellurides were sold in the first year of availability. And even that didn't meet demand. In 2020, the sales went up again to over 75,000 units. For dealers the result meant adding "market adjustment" stickers to the vehicles they received, creating long waiting lists of customers, or both. All of this in the midst of the COVID pandemic that impacted production in Georgia while KIA still struggled to meet demand. Had dealers been able to fill their orders, US sales of Tellurides would probably have reached over 100,000 units in 2020.
Meanwhile, by the way, Hyundai's production of Palisades in Korea was hardly affected as the country actually controlled the pandemic with only a few hundred casualties compared to half a million deaths in the US. The difference being between a competent and a completely incompetent national government. So while the Telluride outsold the Palisade by a ratio of 2 to 1 in 2019 in the US, Hyundai outsold KIA with over 81,000 US Palisade sales in 2020.
The good news is that the long wait for would-be Telluride customers has eased somewhat. What was a six month wait for a top trim Telluride in 2019 from my local dealer has shrunk to about half that. Still, much to the displeasure of my dealer, his Hyundai competitor has comparable Palisades sitting on his lot ready for customers.
Nice. My cousin just bought one and she loves it. I’m too much of a penny pincher to pay that much for gas, so I went for a compact hybrid crossover.
NICE, hybrids are great.
LOVE the Telluride! Sadly, this is not even sold in Kia's home market of Korea. We get the Palisade from Hyundai and we get the Mohave from Kia.
You two make an excellent duo. Great vids!
Thank you very much!
Great review, as usual. My 'one thing' would be to have split (even quasi) exhaust pipes on this vehicle. It's a bit like they stopped at the 2 yard line with the badass look.
Totally agree! That’s the only thing I don’t like
Awesome review video. Thanks Andrea and Zack for the review!
Thank you for watching! :)
Great reviewing job, as Always!!!!!!!
Interesting the new kia logo isn't there, yet. Nice ride if u need to carry that many ppl. It's so impressive how far they have come along in such a short period of time. V6, auto transmission, smart moves. This will cement them, once the new logo comes on it. Ppl still see kia and think bad things from their past. Wake up folks. Zack ur knowledge is great, and honesty. Andrea, u can sell anything. More ppl sure know more about u guys reviewing cars. Cheers from MTL.
Thank you so much, we appreciate your kind words.
When will new logo arrive in usa? Im waiting to purchase after my current car lease ends
New Logo will be on the 2022
@@midlifemom5829 I'm simply amazed that an easily replaced logo would be so important to you.
@@stephenhendricks103 , wow u’ve got that all wrong🙄. The timing of my purchase happens to coincide with new logo, i was just curious. Simple question. Geeze chill
hey guys where did you shot this? because I just immigrated to Vancouver and would like to go there. btw love your videos cheers
We shoot at UBC - University of British Columbia, beautiful spot. Thank you, really glad you are enjoying our content.
Got my black copper ex nightfall in December, love it. Oddly enough these aren’t extremely common in the metro Detroit area, you’re falling over explorers though
I’m in MI looking for one
Always great reviews!! I love your drive the scenery is so beautiful!!
Looks good in black!
Still king!
Huge hit! And about time, at least for those of us who like a great value. The problem, though, is that the out-the-door price on a loaded model is not the value that many of us were hoping for, as Kia dealerships are selling them above MSRP. Here in the New York metropolitan area, I am seeing used ones listed for more than the MSRP on a new one. In fact, I have seen a used one listed for $55k (yes, US dollars), that’s $6k over the MSRP on a brand new top trim model.
Zack hit the nail on the head: Why can’t Kia offer the top trim with the bench seat, at least as an option?
Just like one of your viewers, I would take the Telluride’s exterior with the Palisade’s interior.
Not all KIA dealers indulge in price gouging with "market adjustment" stickers. My KIA dealer has a policy of never exceeding MSRP for any new vehicle. But the downside of that policy is the existence of much longer waiting lists for delivery.
As for wanting a bench seat option in a top trim, KIA isn't alone in their market research that indicates customers willing to pay top dollar for an SUV overwhelmingly prefer second row captain chairs. It's simply the case that those with more disposable income typically place a lower priority on extra seating and a higher priority on roominess behind the first row.
Why not offer it as an option? Simple. If you were already selling every single top trim vehicle you can produce with captain chairs why would you divert production to a model with less appeal to your target consumer?
@@stephenhendricks103 You’re right. Not all dealerships do.
And yes, from Kia’s perspective, having the captain’s chairs only does make sense.
Agreed. In Tennessee, the local dealers were charging additional $10,000 @market adjustment“. No thanks!
Great review as always. One thing to note when comparing the telluride to premium brands is a lot of dealers have markups on these vehicles. A loaded nightfall package in my area is easily $57K USD.
Thanks for sharing!
So true!! Thats why my husband and I passed on getting one!!
@@staceetownsend3947 It really adds up, gets pricey!
57K wow. For that you may start to look at the Genesis GV80
I rather add 4k and buy me a X5
This may be easily overlooked but what I really like in this "lower end" SUV vs the luxuery German 7 passenger SUVs is that the 2nd row seat folds in an instance for 3rd row entry. WOW, you actually don't have to hold a button for 3 years for that seat to fold AND unfold. 7:24
Same point holds in regard to the power folding third row seats in the Palisade vs the manual method in the Telluride. The Palisade's power folding system makes watching paint dry an engaging activity compared to raising/lowering the rear seat backs.
I drive a 2016 Sorento and I love it. This telluride is a dream, too bad they don't sell them in the Europe, I would buy it in a heartbeat
this is my first time watching your channel, and I'm very impressed I really like the format I thought it was a very well-presented and engaging video. nice job!
Thank you so much, really glad you enjoyed our review. We put out two couple reviews a week. One on Wednesday in the afternoon and another Saturday morning. We also do a comparison video every Tuesday.
Welcome aboard!
Nice ride! It would look even better with dual exhaust tips on both side.
I may not always like the car in review but the presentation is always fantabulous
We just subscribed! Thanks for the fun/causal style of car talk! I have this trim in "gravity grey"; LOVING it :) One thing I'd change is the location of the wireless charging pad inside the bottom of the centre compartment, so I wouldn't need to take thing before charging my phone---I wish it'd be like the Seltos/new Sorento where it's on a second tier from the bottom and inward. Anyway, that's really a minor thing though. Look forward to your future videos!
Great review again you guys.....great looking vehicle!
Thank you so much!
I test drove this, and went the Palisade Luxury Trim. The Telluride did not have the rear heated seats on the comparible model.
One of the best cars we ever bought as a family.. I have an ex with the nightfall edition. Only thing we wish it had was memory seats
Should have gotten the SX then 😆
@@ginger_breadman who you telling. Lol i did research for months and don’t know how I missed that. It wasn’t until we switched drivers the next day that I noticed it.
Thinking about getting one. With the chip shortage, leaning to waiting till the next years model comes out. Hope they add a full digital instrument display. Want the SX model.
Kia has come a long ways and seriously gives the competition a run for their money. However, the 4th generation Highlander Platinum gets my vote, but it’s close!
great review it does look awesome would love too see how it's all wheel drive would be in the snow .
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it.
The few times it's snowed here over the 2 winters we've had ours it was great. Threw it in Snow mode and just went for it.
@@michaelryko that's impressive.
Super sharp! Wow love it all blacked out. Lookin good in this Andrea ❤️. Keep up the awesome reviews guys!
Thank you very much! Really glad you enjoyed the review.
If I remember correctly there were thousands of these lost when the ship they were on capsized. That would put a serious delay in the supply chain that they still have not recovered from.
Actually it wasn't "thousands." It was 316. Not exactly a serious dent in the supply chain.
The demands is so high, Kia of Georgia cannot keep up with the demand.
@Michael Mankowski Actually, it was on a ship bound from Georgia to Baltimore. That may sound odd but transporting a large number of vehicles from Georgia to a more centrally located mid-Atlantic location from which they can be transported to individual dealers makes sense.
Love the telluride but will it have the resale value of a pilot or the Hylander? I mean if you keep it for 12 years who cares, but what about after 8years. Not a big deal but used kia products lose alot of value. Thoughts?
It's become alot better in recent years but the average person doesn't keep a vehicle beyond 8 years. I think these will do alright.
It will hold its value well at first, then nosedive. I’d get rid of it after a few years while there is still a lot of demand.
@@InstinctiveFirearmReviews we old geezers think differently. 2011 MKX with 106K KM -- even the service people said "keep it". Sure do like the GV80 though.
Thanks for the great video! Currently waiting for my White Nightsky Telluride order and there is no estimate on how long is it going to take.....
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed it. Congratulations on your new Telluride, hopefully the wait won't be too long. :)
I have been waiting for your review! Love your channel! Trying to decide btwn Nightfall (USA) and 2022 Acura MDX. My husband says MDX feels/drive/looks more sporty, but I like the space/look of Nightfall. Cost, reliability, and safety are factors we will have to weigh out...
Thank you so much for your kind words, happy to hear you like the channel and content. We also really like the MDX, the new model is excellent.
My wife and I are also contemplating the Telluride vs. the MDX technology. I like the presence of the MDX and the comfort of knowing Honda’s reliability is behind it. You get a bit more with the Telluride for your money but I’m hesitant of Kia’s long term reliability. I know the warranty is better but I don’t want to have to use a warranty. Midlife Mom & Andrea/Zack, your thoughts?
@@kevinsonnenberg2868 Apart from the driving dynamics Telluride offers much more than the MDX at the middle and top trims. As we speak used Tellurides sell at MSRP with 30K+ kms on it. Btw the factory is already retooling for the 2022 Telluride and no longer accepts 2021 orders ..
@@kevinsonnenberg2868 Kia and Hyundai's reliability has improved greatly. The recent JD Power dependability study put Kia in 3rd place behind Lexus and Porsche. Hyundai is in 7th.
@@leidtek9602 good to know. Thank you!
Such a big car! I could never drive it and wouldn't even think of parking it. No AWD for me. I live in South Florida so luckily no snow. I also don't like the idea of a black car in Florida, but that's personal. Lots of people have black cars here. But this looks like a nice car with good value if you're driving a lot of people. Good to see you both on a Saturday!
Thanks for watching and sharing your point of view.
The best suv on the market without a doubt the price you pay and what you get
Great review. Great chemistry. Great knowledge and information. I’m glad to be a subscriber. Thank you.
Wow, thanks Bill, keep watching!
What this murdered out version needs on the interior is Carbon Fibre and lots of it! The wood is beautiful whether it’s real or not. Tastefully done. But this dipped in Black model needs all the wood replaced with Carbon Fibre and the pewter chrome needs to be blacked out. The TELLURIDE still blows my mind two years after release. I’m not an SUV guy, but I love this one. Give it 60 more HP for 351 and bump up the torque while you’re at it and the sales of this Range Rover/Porsche look alike tank will continue to accelerate.
I like the Telluride and the Palisade.... but for my money, I'd buy the Palisade
Love both the Telluride and the Palisade but ultimately we went with the Palisade 1.5 years ago. The fact that Kia had none available for a test drive was the major deciding factor.
Yes, I can't imagine buying the second most expensive item one ever owns and not be able to see a full array of models, colors both exterior and interior and take a test drive for a reasonable time period. Looking forward to seeing the Tucson and the Ionic5 but just wish that they were a bit larger.
We don’t get the Kia in Australia, but we do get the Palasade. If the Kia is the best 3 row now on sale, should I assume the Hyundai is a great second choice for Australia??
We got really lucky and decided to go to our local Kia dealership. They just happen to have received two on the car carrier that day. We drove her home the following day with no dealer markup.
Well done!
You guys make an awesome team. Love the reports.
Thank you very much!
The one thing I would change is the exhaust pipe. Needs a split.
True
Just curious. Why it needs a split exhaust pipe? Palisade, Pilot, Highland stays with a single pipe.
@@MegaMorgantown1 two pipes sticking out on the right, not as balanced as one on each side, aesthetically.
Which city did they film it in? Its such a scenery at 9:24
We are in Vancouver, Canada
can I just say it looks better than a range rover and the price this Amazing
Very good review . I placed an order for a 2022 SX Telluride. Can t wait !
Fantastic, congratulations! - Andrea
@@Motormouth... the dealer says I will have it in august only. Quebec …
Does it include the new GUI? The infotainment controls on the MDX are distracting while driving.
A SOLID review of this product. Well done !
Thanks for watching!
Always sold out in my area in Pennsylvania. Ended up with another SUV.
That's too bad it's always sold out.
I waited 10 months last year for mine in San Jose, Calif; I have the SX Black Copper nightfall pkg...oh, and not cheap....dealer markup was 5k..
Tbe Moss Green looks great with the brown leather
it does! I really like that colour as well.
With a Hybrid it would be in my driveway in a heartbeat.
What about the genesis GV 80 ??
(RWD 2.5T starts at $48,900)
This is the the real competition😊
BTW... Great video. Love the new format.
Thank you so much, glad you enjoyed the review. The GV80 with the smaller engine only comes with 5 seats.
New subscriber
Cant wait to see your review on the Santa Cruz soon.
Thanks for the sub!
Welcome aboard, happy to have you along for the ride.
Best SUV on the road
I totally agree with Zach on the white color and silver chrome. Glad to know I’m not the only one out there who just can’t get into the blacked out chrome look. I just test drove this exact car, SX in Copper Black with Nightfall package. It was literally the only Telluride available in my area but I just couldn’t get past all the black, not a fan of the blacked out chrome at all. That with the black body color and black interior, it was just WAY too much. I also think the grill and wheels on the nightfall package actually cheapen the look of the vehicle. Needless to say I placed my order for a white one with silver chrome, I can handle the black wheels. 😆 What can I say, I’m old fashioned. The dealership is saying the wait time right now is about three months.
We looked at both in October 2019. We went with the Palisade as wifey preferred it over the Telluride. She would get another Palisade, but not another me again. ☹️ She loves it that much, and says I’m still ok though. ☹️👍🇨🇦
lol! Very cute!
In the USA, there are dealerships charging 10k over MSRP!
EXACTLY
Some Tellurides are selling way above MSRP along with a waiting list. I would cross shop with the Acura MDX for a bit more money.
Thats my dilemma. I have leased 2019 mdx and not sure which direction to go when lease ends, Nightfall or 2022 MDX.
@@midlifemom5829 I think the MDX overall is more premium. Interior materials are a step up with the new MDX, a more sporty drive and engaging engine. It has a button shifter as you'd know vs traditional stick shifter in the Telluride that some might not care for. I believe the MDX also has a better AWD system. The Telluride info screen is touchscreen vs touchpad in MDX, something definitely to consider as many don't like the touchpad. I'd say you get more features for your money with the Telluride, an MDX with the technology package and SH-AWD is around 55k at this price you're still missing features the Telluride SX offers and you'd have to get the Advance package on the MDX at 60k or so to be comparable in features. I summary -Telluride more roomy, more features for the money and better value, MDX a bit more premium, better handling but more expensive!
@@MIZUNOMP60 , thanks for the reply! I agree with you. The steeper MDX price tag to match Telluride’s amenities is considerable, which makes me hold back. But I see how MDX is a better handling car.
@@midlifemom5829 Did you look at the GV80? If in no rush and want bit smaller but EV check out the GV70E.
6:55 - this right here is what i have always wondered, but i think the companies going for that ultimate look / experience even the client isn't looking to get in that config, sorta low key push.
Im in Buffalo. The dealers are saying they are out of stock of 2020s. How much should I pay cash for a SX?
Love your reviews
Thanks!
Absolutely Gorgeous looking SUV!!
What about the GPS. How will the navigation update does it have Wi-Fi at 8 have to use your phone or something to update the GPS on the vehicle itself ?
2 weeks? 60 days? Because I'm not willing to pay a 20% markup (which is all too common in CA for the SXAWD model) I got on the waiting list to order in SEPTEMBER 2020, and didn't even get to submit the order into the KFOS ordering system until MARCH 2021 -- and the dealer now shows a JUNE 2021 delivery date, meaning I'll have been waiting for my car for at least 10 months.......
Tell me how this thing or any Kia are the best things on the market after you roll past 100K miles. Kia and Hyundai aren't exactly known for their reliability down the road.