Halo Infinite Campaign Review - 2001 Edition
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0:00 Intro & Opening Remarks
04:16 Visuals & Performance
06:15 The Combat, Enemies & Weapons
10:10 Far Cry Infinite
11:59 The Gadgets
14:38 The Level Design
18:22 Outro & Amazingly Awesome Patrons 
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Game developers seriously need to stop giving Marvel so much writing credit.
I do not understand why every fucking game feels the need to be Open world, or a discount rpg. I used to love open world, but now it seems every game is trying to make a knock off far cry world, and I am sick of it. More Player choice is Not always better. Some games that fully commit to an open world can make it work, but most cant. I would rather play a linear indie walking simulator than 90% of the AAA open world titles. The best i will probably be a able to say about halo 5's story mode, if i ever play it, is that it will make me want to go play one of the older, better Halo games.
Game companies nowadays don't understand that less is more sometimes
It’s something Ubisoft pushed and put into every one of their games. Other companies just saw how much money they were making.
Less is ABSOLUTELY more, more times than not. I agree- a game is a game, not some kind of open world take a on a game. Open world games rarely incite curiosity better than a tighter crafted game with fixed staging.
Lol my god. The gaming community really is a cancer. Open world is good. God of war did it right. Halo infinite didn’t and it’s short sighted goals will show soon.
@@vividvulpe9842 I beat a non-open world game and feel nothing. Likewise for open world games.
Doesn’t matter to me.
I agree. Blame Marvel for every form of media having PG "quips" every 30 seconds, and for doing it during inappropriate moments.
Edit: Tbh Im just tired of superhero movies. Dune was a breathe of fresh air but even that had to have 2 "obligatory quips" lol smh
To this day, nothing is worse than Nebula's intense monologue about her abuse and torture undercut by an unfunny joke about hats.
Gotta get them PG13 dollas
Isn’t it the fault of everyone copying it? I mean, they are successful movies so pretty sure they do something right. Though I can understand it being annoying if everything seems to inject humor improperly. I just don’t share that particular perception
@@infinimineyt9700 the "rolemodel" shares the blame but yea I get it it's their faults too.
Dude, what theyre doing is appealing to the least common denominator (8 year olds)- that's not necessarily "doing something right" - it just makes the most money. Lmao
PG "quips" where in every Halo game from the beginning.
One thing that I was worried about when I first heard about this game being semi open world, was that there'll probably be no levels where you assault some big building, bridge or whatever together with a squad and a few tanks. That was always the best part for me in the Halo games. As well as fighting through a bridge or gondola. Scarabs, or just fighting on moving platforms, was always special too.
I think that Reach had one of the most unique levels, which was the one where you get jetpacks and jump between buildings with a squad. However I always liked CE the most: because of the grand levels where you feel small and insignificant, or tight levels where you're lost and alone, as well as those parts of some levels when you get together with the UNSC in epic big battles and just blow shit up. I don't think any other Halo -game quite nailed all those parts in the same game.
Reach has some amazing levels, the one that got me was the one where you were door gunning with the grenade launcher. Seeing all the desperate fights along the way, shooting where you could to help your allies or just watching them die really gave a sense of depth and futility to the whole fight. REMEMBER REACH!!!!!
This gameplay in todays market?
_laughs in mediocrity and cosmetics_
@@alvinacosta9945 That's the same level that I was talking about! And I agree, that part got to me too. The high ranking brute charging 3 soldiers with a hammer in that part stuck with me - as it was really hard to stop him and there was no doubt what would soon be happening to the soldiers.
I always think back to taking down the Scarabs in Halo 3, where you're driving alongside this mechanical behemoth, take it's leg out, then climb it, take out the covenant on board, then blow the core inside and jump free before it explodes.
To think that some 15 years later we're not getting any kind of scale or creativity like that is such a shame.
While I like open world games. Those levels when you were advancing with artillery and a whole battalion were the parts that stuck out to me.
My biggest complaint so far is the lack of different biomes. No deserts, swamps, jungles, urban or snow areas but the same pine trees and forerunner structures.
EDIT 1: I've finished the campaign. It's worse like Halo 4. The gunplay and grapple is great but damn, so many copy pasted levels and arenas. The boss fights aren't fun, the open world feels empty, marines are useless, you'll repeat the same task of retrieving energy cores to open doors or let Cortana onto a console and the Cortana/Chief banter gets very tiresome. The story is terrible up with the likes of The Last Jedi.
EDIT 2: I'm glad I didn't spend money on this and Gamepass made me dodge a bullet there. I got Borderlands 3 and am having way more fun lmao
EDIT 3: Playing God of War on pc and man, it's 100X more polished than Infinite.
EDIT 4: Man Elden Ring is overhyped. The pc port is pure garbage with reused assets. Probably worth it for $2.
EDIT 5: Fortnite's No Build Mode is fun. Way better optimisation than Infinite and Elden Stuttering
EDIT 6: Man Diablo 2 Resurrected is so much better than Elden Stuttering
Bungee never shown any of them so 343 couldn’t include them. You’ll probably see a snow area near the end though.
Edit: I was being sarcastic but my joke doesn’t work anyway because as people have pointed out halo 1 had more biomes than halo infinite.
@@TheFloodFourm nope doesn't change at all
this isn't Breath of the Wild
@@TheFloodFourm what? those environments were in most of the Bungie games
Probably saving them for future campaigns.
Whoa there.
The first Dying Light had a grappling hook as well.
So did Mirror's Edge 2.
@@foxdevilsadvocate8567 I wasn't trying to point out how many MORE games had grappling hooks, only that he stated such about DL2 as if it wasn't in the original.
Maybe the uses it sees are more varied in the sequel.
@@Spit1990 He hated dying light, so he probably either forgot, or didnt play the game long enough to unlock it.
@@dopaminedreams1122 wow. Wow wow wow. I now question his tastes!
@@Spit1990 First time I hear of anyone hating the game.
I feel we really lost something going openish world. Something about a episode/mission based campaign. Each can have such different feels, of environment, music, vehicles and combat. Infinite looks like one large mission.
Yea….I didn’t know this was open world it kinda kills my urge to buy it. I was looking forward to going on a mission based romp with whatever to great story and good combat. If I wanted to play an open world campaign I would go play one. This is Halo.
but they could've had it "episodic" if each island of the ring was a different biome. For example, in the first ever Infinite trailer they were showing us the different biomes like jungles, winter mountains, deserts ! What happened to those?
@@TuBui2 Oh I'm sure we'll see some kind of paid part 1/ part 2 dlc, where we hop on a plane and have to deal with some immediate threat on a secluded island or something.
@@sealboy1211 it’s not a typical open world game. Much more focused experience.
@@arminius504 fair, it’s just not what I was expecting. At least I know I’m really good at staying in the dark about things I want to play blind. I didn’t want mission spoilers lol. But I can’t resist gman you know it.
Grappling hooks are everywhere. It took video games 17 years after half-life 2 to realize pulling objects and throwing them back at the enemies is fun
They spent them making sure it actually pulled things to you instead of quitting after 3 feet.
@teebles Have you never played HL2?
@teebles Literally never worked for me.
@@kingnull2697 u have to actually aim the damn thing. if u werent doing that then of course it wasnt going to work
@@dr._breens_beard no shit fanboi. I distinctly remember the weapon giving up on dragging objects more than 6 feet when I played it a year or so ago.
I’m just glad the old armor is back. Hated the new power rangers like armor in other games.
The old helmet isn’t back
@@DeltaAssaultGaming new helmet looks good anyways
4 and 5's armor looked amazing although I didn't like how flimsy it looked. Like it had too many gaps and showed to much under armor.
@@alexsilva28 4/5 Armor reminded me of Air-Soft gear. Flimsy and shiny.
@@alexsilva28 let’s go smoke crack together
The lack of map variety was my main concern when they showed the game. Take for example Halo 3 which had jungles, deserts, snow fields, underground bases, forerunner areas, parasite ships and more, while in Infinite the only thing they showed was the open map and the forerunner levels. The way you described it also feels like there's gonna be a lack of set pieces. Halo 3 didn't just dump you into a level with enemies and told you to go to the other side, it constantly threw different set pieces for the levels to feel varied such as dropping you with marines that you could outfit with weapons or dropping different vehicles for you to chose, not to mention the scarab fights or the hornet sections. Hell even the driving portions were distinct to each other.
Nothing they've shown about Infinite makes it seem it'll be as varied as 3.
This reeks of a game that barely got out of development hell. It was probably in a much worse state before Joseph Staten arrived to make it at least mostly playable.
It's seems they wanted to be just like halo CE...even on the repetition lol
@@junpei6180 CE had more variety than this, actually.
@@arnox4554 holy shit...ok this is seriously considering
@@junpei6180 Yeah off the top of my head from start to finish had, human ship, pine forest, desert, covenant ship, island, tundra, swamp/jungle, forerunner base, snow again, covenant ship again, human ship again.
“Not the biggest halo fan”
Well at least you’re honest
Yeah it really showed in his review. Some comments were baffling because other Halo games would have given him context.
@@arminius504 yeah agreed. Especially the complaints with the gameplay and how old school it was. Even though we wanted it to go back like how it is right now. Weird coming from gman since he loves the new dooms for going old school again and it’s the same here. Very strange.
@@arminius504 I noticed most of the reviewer’s or “gaming journalists” who got free review copies aren’t even halo fans let alone have never played the original trilogy. It’s funny because they have no idea what Halo is about LMAO
@@irshadtyo Well it definitely isn't about running around a pine forest for 8 hours checking off markers on a map.
@@mcz1945 What about running around in a city in ODST?
I Remember when a lot of Halo content creators where trying to decrypt the "tribal writtings" on the walls inside the caves and they were talking about the forunners experiments on humans with the flood, i suppose that idea was scrapped, otherwise it could have brought a true sense of mystery or investigation just like in H1 & H3 but could have been in a more story telling way.
Update : Some people didn't read the comment it seems, i know it's part of the Lore, i'm talking about it being part of Infinite's campaign which it doesn't seem to be.
Though there might be a reference to it from a marine about the banished digging something horrifying from the depths of the installation ?? Idk..
I'm pretty sure that's still the lore. They just don't explore it in the games.
@@felixader Wasn't too sure. It's been years since I played thru 4.
Yeah thats part of the lore this guy doesn't play the game then chats shit or he is not paying attention to the games or lore
@@matthewwheeldon668 part of the lore and part of the actual game are not the same thing...
a throw away line from an NPC or cryptic easter egg is not representation in a story
Also old enough to remember the Halo 2 launch. Me, a brother, and a bunch of classmates (and our history teacher) all brought our XBoxes and TVs to a friends house to play an all night Halo 2 party. We hooked up so many TVs and systems that it caused the house to blackout for a few minutes.
Wait.. your teacher was there? Weird. Was this college?
@@jdisdetermined high school. But also, he was about twenty-four or so and it was a small enough school where teachers were almost seen as older siblings/parent figures and not just stereotypical disciplinary figures, if that makes sense.
@@andrewhudson7108 that's dope bro, I have that kind of teacher as well when I was in high school
The lack of diverse environments is lame. Halo CE in 2001 had varying biomes between most levels. Beach, forest, snow, canyons, swamp, and ffs inside a covenant ship. Triple A gaming is worse these days than ever before
There is a level inside a banished ship but otherwise I do agree to an extent wish their was more biome, that being said though could be big story reason why it's all set in that one location.
I agree, AAA gaming is rather disappointing in 2021.
When games from the 1990s and 2000s put 2021 games to shame. Ouch.
@@Gruntvc exactly! If anything you'd think with the technology we have today that games would be 100x better. But no they keep putting out half ass cash grabs, at least Halo Infinite is decent but not much better in Halo 3 or Reach imo gameplay wise
Eh, Red Dead 2 was astounding at least. I think we’re just spoiled now.
@@iforgot87872 yeah but games like that are few and far between
100% agree on that annoying quick banter thing that's in every single production these days. It's not funny, it's never been funny, and goddammit, it never will be.
Agreed. Gets on my nerves now and I can't help but stop paying attention. They showed a bunch of smug quipsters in the latest Saints Row trailer and my first thought was, "Do I get to kill these characters? Where's the gangsta who murders these Starbucks kids?"
Why do they keep adding it
That's like literally one of the staples of halo, dipshit. Grunts are known to say dumbshit, the marines always have sone fun dialogue, chief and the a.i. usually say some funny stuff, and one of the skulls makes some dialogue more common
@@flimby872 He means how the tone is different. It's fourth wall breaking crap. Less og Halo and more Joss Whedon type banter.
@@parissmith5727 agreed for example in halo ce where grunt gets scared of pelican. That could be expected, surprising given nature of them in infinite however.. you have something like "its my turn on the xbox" and act sporadic.
Honestly at this point i just miss the days of having tightly crafted linear narratives with decent storylines. Kind of like what the Halo franchise built it's whole brand on. Feels like every game now has to be "open world" and it's definitely not always for the better.
Open world can be good but most of the time it's just tedious and feels like padding
Tbh the Yakuza series is a better semi open world than Halo infinite at least it has good mini games and side story especially the story is the best
@@mikeehrmantraut1899 definitely holy shit yakuzas open worlds are packed with content especially LAD and 0 and blows this out of this water
@@silverhand9965 Wow, that’s a very nuanced, thoughtful take. Thanks for that.
@@mikeehrmantraut1899 the game has been out for less than 24 hours and you’re already equipped to make a judgment on the overall quality of the game and it’s open world structure? Really? I guess you got a review code. Or could it be that you’re just making claims based on a couple of RUclips videos you’ve watched? 😂 furthermore, you’re making a comparison between Yakuza and Halo. It’s idiotic. They’re two games that could not be more fundamentally different from one another than they already are. Besides, are mini-games the metric by which we measure an open-world’s quality??? Yeah, you’re right, Halo Infinite would be better with a rhythm mini-game 🙄
I can’t wait to try the campaign, that’s usually what I play fps games for these days since I suck ass at multiplayer
Trying to "Git GUd" at 250+ ping ain't fun that's for sure
Spoilers: This is finna be Z U C C
@@trblemayker5157 this shit right here
Don't beat yourself up, the concept of multiplayer should've stayed a nice bonus, not a dang blood mine to suck your base dry of money and lazily rehash games based on multiplayer.
@@londonworkman7617 Oh hey somebody who understands
You can't see it under the helmet but Master Chief *also* has the goofy smile
The big reason why taking the Spartan Killer bosses on head-first won't work is because, according to 343 Industries, you're meant to use "strategies" and take out their shields, then you can engage them like normal enemies. I'll use the first boss as example(Boss Fight SPOILERS btw):
Tremonious has a Jetpack, Ground Pound, Hydra Rocket Launcher and Shotgun. He is accompanied by two Jackals wielding Manglers. You fight him in an open arena area near an elevator with many pillars and two ground levels(Up and Downstairs). There are numerous throwable Fusion Coils (Explosive Barrels) to use against him.
Kill the Jackals first as the Jackals will deal chip damage to assist him and engage you, to finish you off when you have low/no shields. Keep your distance from him to avoid his shotgun and melee. Use the grapple hook to evade his mobility and ground pound. Use the pillars as cover from his Rockets. There are plasma weapons to make faster work of his stronger shields and A Skewer(A power weapon that shoots a large lethal Spike at Enemies) and other Ballistic weapons to deal with his health, that will be lying around the arena e.g. The Manglers you can get from killing the Jackals.
Using that now you'll be able to defeat him easily, these "techniques/strategies" become more mandatory on Higher Difficulties(Heroic, Legendary or LASO) as the bosses are more difficult. The difficulty of these bosses can be seen by another RUclipsr who goes by the name 'Forge Labs' that attempted the first Two Missions on Legendary during the Campaign Preview, given to him 3 Weeks Ago.
Smooth brain moment. Imagine using strategies in a shooter game.
This is why you keep breaking your controllers during Warzone, plebian.
It’s like… Doom Eternal bosses where you are forced to… think 🤔
@@klutzspecter3470 That's a bad thing?
@@klutzspecter3470 and how is that a bad thing?
if anything you ARE the smoothbrain
the massive performance loss in the open world probably has something to do with the way the engine handles AI. I read somewhere that Infinite's Slipspace engine can have all friendly and enemy AI and combat animations active all at once regardless if you can see them or not. So it seems they plan to have little skirmishes going on throughout the entire open world map in real-time which is nuts on a technical level.
Hm, sounds possible, but I've experienced this on the outdoor multiplayer maps too (which should not have AI components)
Why would you want a massive performance loss, for something that you can’t see, doesn’t effect you, and IMO doesn’t really add anything?
The same effect could be achieved in a much simpler and more resource friendly way.
That’s probably the reason it hasn’t been done before
... Why?
Interesting idea, I guess, but kind of dumb in practice, I'd think. That's just a bunch of things you have to have running in the background that the player can't even see, and as Gman noted, that affects performance.
@@Coyotekins They do actually patrol, and there are occasional skirmishes in any area where said patrols might intersect with Marines (which is exceedingly rare due to the way Marines work in this game, but it does very occasionally happen if say you get a bunch of marines and then decide to ditch them Spider-Man style). When reviewers say no dynamic events, they mean stuff like Far Cry events or Skyrim dragons dropping in outta the blue.
10:04 They ruined the shotgun in Halo 2 also, IMO. It was a bit better in 3, but Halo CE always had the best shotgun of the original trilogy.
That CE shotgun is a god among weapons... along with the magnum
And pistol, they nefed BOTH in 2 and I never really forgave them.
@@RKramer105 as much as I loved dual wielding that pistol in H2 was the worst
Shotgun was op in Halo ce but damn was it fun during the campaign lol.
the H2A shotgun feels much better
if they were going to pad out the game so much, they should have really had varying environments. even rage 2 had more diverse environmental design
Oh man rage 2. At least it was also extreme dumb fun and knew it.
infinite reminds me so much of the rage games in that the "open world" only exists to make the time to get from point A and B longer, with very little in between them beyond a few annoying enemies standing around
Halos always had good variation in environments. This game doesnt. Its pathetic.
@@cheezoncrack1 Third strike for 343.
@@Juwce_86 Rage 2 sucked and I hate it
It's sad that the levels are so samey. CE had some really unique levels every time. First you're on a tight spaceship, then big open hills, then a dark rocky landscape, then a weird purple alien spaceship, then a snowy place with a forerunner installation or something, then a tropical beach, then a dark misty swamp or something, and there's more but you get it.
Very different locations every time.
You can tell that the whole purpose of the campaign, is to shoehorn people into the multiplayer, so they can earn a lot of money of microtransactions. Why else would ever single be so bad and be like a deathmap map, because thats the whole point. Get the player used to doing the same thing over and over, just like multiplayer.
@@RMJ1984 next installment is going to be Halo Royale. Totally renting this one for sure.
Every time, apart from the last 1/3 which is all reused levels
@@thebigmeech3768 Development was rushed towards the end, devs even said they hated that flood level but they needed to ship. I thought the final level was really cool tho, sure the pillar of autumn was reused but this time it's totally wrecked and you go to completely different areas within that ship. It was a nice full circle, you end up where you began, and everything has changed.
The library was the only actually bad level. It's boring, ugly, it's entirely the same hallways and goes on way too long. Minus points for the library mission. Should have given them more time to make it good.
Each piece in Halo Ce also offers varying moments.
Such as the moments where you and 100 other npc storm a beach, Or the horror theme chapter when you encounter the flood for the first time, Or the big snow chapter where the focus is on vehicles and heavy weapons...e.tc e tc
Dude your comment about the marvel jokes in everything is something I have been preaching about for so god dang long. It’s infested literally every form of media. The pinnacle example of it is in the Star Wars movie that they made a yo mama joke in the first 5 mins of the film.
Ugh don't remind me of those movies
Your comment about it basically being Halo:CE is exactly why I love it. It was a return to form while being upgraded at same time. I’ve played through campaign and done about a fourth of the open world stuff and I’ve only had 4 different glitches in my 30ish hrs of play time on my Xbox one. I do agree that maybe it could’ve been improved but for me (a big Halo fan) it was even better than I expected after Halo 5
Yeah, it seems like big Halo fans will enjoy this game more than non Halo fans for sure. I feel like this game is a natural progression of the Halo campaign formula
@@zentimes9936 I definitely agree with you. It was really good, but it good enough been great. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it. =)
So basically I should just keep replaying all the Halo games on the 360.
Pretty much, yeah.
Yup, stick with those classics or buy Halo MCC on Steam or Xbox Series X during a sale.
343 for Halo, the Coalition for Gears of War, just don't have the same magic the original devs had for both Xbox franchises.
@@Gruntvc
The coalition doesn’t have the same magic, but I thought Gears 4, 5, and Judgment were still good games. Halo 4 and 5 May have played well, but the stories were just awful and the focus was clearly on multiplayer first (Infinite seems like no exception to that rule).
From literally everyone other Halo fan to you:
No. But you can too. Infinite is great, this review is only one middling one out of hundreds that love it.
@@AttakusZakus yes I prob should play for myself and see. Maybe it's the selection of footage but I wasn't inspired by any of the design. Didn't seem to be any set pieces, just endless forerunner type rooms. But as you say, I haven't played it yet myself so maybe wait and see. Doesn't make me want to run out and spend hundreds of quid on a console and game tho.
I came to my guy Gman because, while I love Halo and am excited for this one, I was skeptical of all of the major outlets praising the campaign so much. Thank you for keeping it real.
That's a major red flag for me too. If corporate game journalists like the game, my spidey senses tingle. Used to be they'd cover for shady online stuff and laziness on the AAA side, but now they circle wagons on all kinds of stuff. Wonder what it was about this Halo that got praised, because I just know it's something story or character related.
Well you see I have been keeping an eye out and I happened to watch a good amount of videos from halo tubers seems their tune changed after they made a visit to 343 headquarters. (Obviously paid off)
It pretty obvious 343 put all their resources on MTX instead of the campaign.
The story is sick
I love the game, gman is usually spot on but this is one review of his that I just dont agree with at all
Saying that the equipment is "recycled" from multiplayer is such an odd take. Like, it wasn't in MP first and then added *last minute* to SP. Would you also say the BR is "recycled from MP"?
They're moves that are balanced for MP play. Hence, recycled.
@@Gggmanlives The campaign is built around the equipment and you can have all of it at once and they perform different than multiplayer. If anything, they were made for campaign and then rebalanced for MP.
MP and SP are developed alongside each other at the same time and each have their own balance.
A threat detector is much more useful in MP though, same with the grapple. They feel like MP abilities repurposed.
i disagree heavily with gman on this review, but this particular complaint of his is both justified and accurate. joe staten talked about the campaign team having to be convinced to approve the grapple shot for campaign. they loved it once they did but it was never originally in the campaign and i suspect the other equipment wasnt either.
@@dr._breens_beard I guess, for me, for something to be "recycled", it has to be some lazy attempt at just throwing it in last second.
The equipment's implementation in campaign does not come across as, "Oh, crap, let's just throw in a drop shield really quickly.", without designing around and balancing it.
Currently playing the original Halo trilogy. They're all mostly just moving from arena to arena to arena. It served the series well at the time because I can see how it treaded new ground in combat evolved, but not much beyond that.
The lack of surprise and tacky script is putting me off... Haven't 343 played the original trilogy? There's so many memorable moments in those games I still play them weekly to relive them
I dunno what 343’s deal is with building off the Halo novels. It’s almost like they care more about fleshing out the Halo universe than making an actually good story in that universe.
And let’s be real, how many people play Halo for the extended lore? How much of the fan base actually read the novels? The average Halo fan never knew who the Didact was before Halo 4. They killed him off in a follow up comic. Nobody ever heard of Locke before Halo 5 and it doesn’t even matter because he’s probably not in Infinite.
And infinite is probably the worst offender in this regard. The banished where introduced in a Novel, fleshed out in Halo Wars 2, and now they’re the big bad in Infinite. So not only do you have to read a novel, you have to play a spin off strategy game just to get the gist of an enemy in a first person shooter game! Who approved this?
@@Ckoz2829 The Halo lore has always been more interesting than the story. The story has always been genetic, except for Reach which is coincidentally my favorite.
@@gu3z185
I always found the story in the games more interesting. I don’t have the patience to read a dozen novels to understand the universe. I just want a self contained story. And I especially don’t want to do required reading to understand my game. Everything should be told through the game first imo.
Halo 2 and CE was the only good halo game if ur talking memorable moments.. or u considering halo 3's god awful cortana level or miranda's "to war" line which didnt even make any sense
@@dr._breens_beard Loved a load of moments in 3 to be honest. They were the bad levels no doubt... but most of the game has some stellar set pieces and level design... Wasn't talking about memorable moments in regards to just story but just memorable moments as a whole.
Halo fans literally screamed for more of the original CE/2/3 feel due to the big departure 343 took with 4 and 5. I agree, it's not a solution except to give the most vocal part of the fanbase more service. I would have rather seen a evolution of the series instead of a throwback. And no varied biomes is disappointing. The original had great diversity in it's levels. They took the Halo mission from CE and stretched it into an 8 hour game, seems like....yes, that was one of the best missions of CE because of the open nature of it, but it didn't have the pull to last 8 hours and the CE designers knew that, and moved on about the point when you get tired of rescuing marines. Infinite's designers apparently, didn't.
They had an extra year to get this thing right and all they apparently did was tighten up some, but not all, of the graphics. For how it looks and how reflections/shadows/lighting works in the game, it's not justifying taxing the latest cards when you can run Halo2 Anniversary or CE Anniversary with dynamic lighting, shadows, etc without nearly as much GFX overhead.
I may still buy and play this but it sure as hell won't be on launch day. Like the Master Chief Collection, I will wait for a sale and buy it at least 50% off the MSRP.
I also would have loved to see the series evolve past the original trilogy, but Halo 4 and 5 were such stinkers, I understand why they decided to play it safe. I would’ve liked to see them shape up and really give us something worthy of the Halo name, but honestly, I don’t think 343 is up to the task. I bet even they know they’re not up to it. So they just kinda skate around it. Maybe one day, they’ll find someone who knows how to modernize the series without losing what made it great, but in the meantime the series just exists.
Only thing I hated from 4/5 was the art style, that’s it.
Unfortunately the extra year was probably due to the reboot of development in 2020. It’s rumored that when Staten joined it was gonna be full on Halo Far Cry but the game was a mess, so he toned it down a lot and made a tighter script. Keep in mind this is one of the few less positive reviews out there, with the game getting highly positive reviews elsewhere. Hopefully this is a starting point for 343 to actually have a good base and understanding moving forward.
@@charlestonobryant807 it's baffling that it's getting good reviews tbh
"Halo fans literally screamed for more of the original CE/2/3 feel"
So why didn't they give it to them?
Infinite doesn't look at all like the original trilogy. It doesn't look like a throwback at all - it looks like 343 played "Halo", as in the second level of CE, and decided to stretch that into an open world game, and never looked at the rest of the campaign.
i just miss the days of having tightly crafted linear narratives with decent storylines.
You and me both brother. I bough the game since I'm a Halo fan, but it's so bland. It lacks all the charm and good things the original Bungie games had. I won't be finishing this, I can tell you that.
You can’t just copy another comment you fucker
@@FAHRENHEITDELIO you are lame!
17:05 In all fairness, as a long time Halo fan, I can tell you that that is exactly what most of core fan base wanted, specially after the bloated mess that were the last two games. I’d be really interested in hearing your opinions on 5, maybe experiencing it might give you a better idea on why 343i decided to play it extra safe with Infinite
Honestly the story to 5 is crap but the campaign design - for the most part - was pretty solid, it’s like the inverse of Halo 2. The sanghelios missions in particular were really good, especially the first one with the massive cave segment.
You, Halo fans, ruined the Halo Series forever, with your endless complaining and bitching
@@humanelemon115 That's most series with consistent entries. Kid Icarus fanboys would suck the chrome off a tailpipe if it got them another, and they'd be damn glad for it despite flaws. That's because they lack options. For series like Halo, they've tested so many things with different fans loving different they just can't do anything perfectly right.
No one asked for combat evolved but in 2021.
@@humanelemon115 > 343 ships incredibly shitty Halo 5 game.
> 343 ships broken-as-fuck Halo MCC
> 343 ships mediocre at best Halo Infinite game.
> 343/Microsoft force the Halo Infinite multiplayer to be free-to-play
"WHY DO YOU HALO FANS COMPLAIN SO MUCH"
So they turned the Halo Franchise into a Free To Play multiplayer game. They focused more on the FTP multiplayer, and the actual Campaign that costs actual money and is the core of the series has been ignored and given a gimicky grappling hook.
It’s been like that since 4, except now it’s FTP. 343 can’t do campaigns or story, but they’re pretty good at multiplayer.
343 is there to make money first and foremost. The bungie Era of gameplay and player mentality is gone, 343 can't write for shit and are at conflict with original design philosophy on campaign flow and lore.
Now with infinite and relevance of 5 is clear where their mind is at. Campaign felt bare at best made cause they had too, then make dlc money from it with minimum of work. Or sheer incompetence I don't know. But biggest budget, longest dev time with biggest team and most established lore but bringing the most empty halo to the table is bad.
When money is their focus multiplayer skins and rewards are first compared to Maps, objectives or whathave you
The first boost of the dash doesn't lose momentum on the air, you can do crazy shit with it. Mastering changing from dash to grapple is amazing. Also the shield wall give you enough time to get those critical hit you need on important targets.
Also the grappling shot have a starting time before it pull you which let you vulnerable, so when in a pinch is better to use the dash.
Its sucks wasnt bound to key
You have tk select first and use with q in pc
Cool stuff, but there is a rule in nerd-speak: after the first "also", every time you use also again you have to add another instance of it. For example, the second time you use it you have to say "also also", then add an also every time after that.
XD
Yh the drop shield saved my ass many times. Its one of the best gadgets in the game.
Hahahaha I love the timing of the ads. Ad ends and the video resumes. "You piece of shiiiit!" Not sure if you planned that or not but it was hilarious
Honestly so far my biggest complain is the lack of environments. Your complaints are the things I’m just okay with, so thanks for the review broski.
I'm not a halo fan either so this was perfect to get a sense of how just an FPS fan will feel about the game.
Thank god there's still sane people.
When he said he wasnt devoted to the series, I knew I would vibe with this review lol
@@llamadasinrespuesta4631 So being a fan of something makes you insane then?
@@zackie8172 Lol same gameplay. That was a nice one buddy. Sure the microtransactions and 1 biome suck but you're just trying to make the game look worse than it is.
@@zackie8172 Legit 90% of people I have seen have said the the story is really good, only a few people didn't like it. And the soundtrack is really fucking good, idk how represented everything is in game, but the ost is some of the best in any game nowadays.
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03:26 God damn true, this annoys me to no end. I hope this trend of constant banter and/or sarcastic remarks ends soon enough. Nothing feels sincere and honest this way.
@Beyond Hop3 nope.
@Beyond Hop3 I do, enjoy your dead game shill.
@@llamadasinrespuesta4631 You're being needlessly hostile. Throughout the 'classic trilogy' there are fairly common one-liners and tropey dialogues, it's like an 80s movie at points and it's very fun. Balanced with more serious moments and horror, characters like the UNSC marines, (google Chips Dubbo) grunts, Sergeant Johnson and more make a lot of quips/somewhat funny sayings.
@@llamadasinrespuesta4631 Prove it
@Beyond Hop3 I never played Halo so i can't comment on that. But i definitly agree with Gman regarding current movies/tv shows/games etc frequently having this ironic or witty tone
This is the most critical review I've seen for the game so far. Whilst I don't agree with all of your points, I think they are mostly fair. For me, the biggest issue is that Infinite had the potential to be so much more than what we've been given. I still think I'll have fun, but it's surprising how little we've come since the first game. I'm hoping that either DLC or a sequel will give us a big improvement.
Lol potential/ what we have been given literally sums up every persons opinion today on every big game.
Too bad microsofts wallet leveled up regardless of what we think.
tbf, people whinged when the went off formula. You cant really blame them for sticking close to it
@@termileart8563 true
i dunno what's mike saying but halo cannot be much more than this, this is halo!
they should shoot it and be the last title (give expansion packs, community map pack support, multiplayer support) but that's it lad, that's it
after 20 years or so, a title this grounded cannot go anything more, even the first devs droped because they knew it.
@@termileart8563 yaa Microsoft wants money micro mi mico mic-
to be honest they have enough money, whenever they messed up doom you can say that (thanks to rage i think? doom eternal got delayed and changed a bit, screw zenimax)
I read somewhere that 343i was literally taking the Zelda breath of the wild route, but due to internal infighting between, Microsoft, 343i and hiring contractor as your main workforce, they had to cut 2/3 of the original content, which is better than most open world games daily fetch quests and other methods of patting your game.
DAMN! After waiting 6 years for Halo Infinite....feels like it needs another 2 years at most of develop time. But then again I'm not surprised since 343 had Lead Directors leaving the project left and right for like 3 years or so. Anyway still gonna play it for being an...casual Halo fan on December 8 through Xbox Game Pass.
Thank you for describing Cyberpunk 2077
Really makes you think what would have happend if it actually released alongside the series X
it seems to be an industry trend for lead directors to abandon ship a lot..
An unbiased, no rose-tinted glasses opinion is what good reviews are made of.
I appreciate keeping the art style and gameplay to the old Halo games, but it was pulled off in such a way that it feels flat and lifeless. I too am also weary of the constant quips.
>it has the old halo's art style and gameplay
Lol, not even close.
@@llamadasinrespuesta4631 why don't you prove it?
@@llamadasinrespuesta4631 Bungie Halo fanboys have to be the worst. I've played Halo since 2001 and I'm glad 343 scrapped their 4 and 5 art style for the classic look, but here is someone like yourself that still doesn't think it's art style is like the originals because it wasn't made by Bungie themselves
@@blackknight9157 well, while the elites look 500x better the new phantom looks like a cardboard box xD IMO
@@pira707 lol
Would be nice to see a Alien Rage remake, CI could make a great game if they invested a bit money.
so i guess far cry halo now has taken inspiration from square enix's avengers too with the boring dungeon level designs
That Cortana quip about the environment being the same has to be the most tone deaf comment in the Halo series. Just because you are self aware about the environment being boring doesn't make the level any less tedious.
Preach it!
It's like when people predict what your counter argument will be before you make it as if that defeats your argument
@@cmdrfunk yeah. try that crap on a cop, you’ll get similar results.
By the way can we mention the fact that Not Cortanas facial animations are mass effect Andromeda levels of fu$ked up
3:51 oh come on. those tracks "endless" & "echoes of orion" in halo infinite are pretty good. plus all the multiplayer menu & pvp loading screen music (the post rock tracks) are all amazing.
Yeah I don't agree with his opinions on the soundtrack at all. They have the minds behind the Ori scores, as well as Unfinished Swan; each of which had especially resonant soundtracks.
Ultimately though, those are just his opinions, and they don't necessarily reflect the quality of the tunes. Just his tastes.
@@Book_Of_Essence Gareth's tracks are solid but that's really about it
Yeah his simple handwaving of the soundtrack as "nothing special" kind of set the tone of the rest of the review for me. That statement came off as him basically rushing this review out without really taking the time to get a proper feel for the game and collect his thoughts regarding it. That's not to say I disagreed with all his opinions but the one about the soundtrack was a pretty shit take.
@@ToxicBalloon360 there are a couple good tracks but that's about it
@@jetthejudge If by a "couple" you mean the vast majority, then I agree.
“Our biggest halo”
It’s basically halo 1. Mission halo. LOL
Perfect.
@@MO_Disk but it isn’t Diet Coke.
Dash move with invis was essential for me to beat the hunters guarding the skull on north island. Only way to get behind them with the weapons I had. Small area and they tracked me on grapple too quickly
I knew there had to be some catches to the Infinite campaign hype. And sure enough, Gman found every single one, and nailed them with his beloved 50/50 mix of articulation and crushing humor.
Agreed campaign felt padded and gimmicky, the t rated narrative cringe and forced antagonist hologram dumps.. the copy-paste objectives, after an hour you basically repeat till the end. Shame the openworld felt lifeless, shallow having no impact on story.
Always be skeptical of overwhelming hype. That shit is never to be trusted.
He missed the shit story - but nailed everything else.
There's an explanation why The Weapon is so similar to Cortana. According to lore, both AIs were modeled after brains taken from clones of one female scientist (the brain gets destroyed in the process, ouch). Although to know this, one has to find and read lore snippets from Halo Reach, so it would be nice if devs would actually explain this in game.
Seethe non in game lore killed halo.
Also weapon is more politically correct while feels familiar
@@zakanyimen I dont think the character not being nude is more “politically correct”
@@llamadasinrespuesta4631 You don’t need to be a huge lore fanatic to know that both AIs were created from Halsey.
Fucking hell, 343, if I have to read obscure lore from an unrelated game to understand the basic points of your plot, you need to go back to the drawing board. This is almost as bad as in Halo 5 where they expected everyone to read and watch the 50,000 novels and lore pieces that take place after Halo 3 just to understand what the fuck is going on.
I beat the game on Legendary and I definitely felt as if it was somewhat of a "teaser" of what's to come. I enjoyed the game a lot but I can understand that story and gameplay elements are better in other Halo titles.
I had a blast with the game. I agree that it’s highly repetitive but it short enough not to get boring (like the Ubisoft’s open world games). Plus the gameplay itself is so fun, that even after finishing the fight and all the side missions I found myself roaming the lands of the ring just to get some extra minutes with it.
BTW in my opinion all the abilities are useful and fun (even if kind a basic) but you need to force yourself to use and get used to then. Especially on the higher difficulties the cloak in a max out boost and stronger shield are a godsend. I’ve used the grapple hook and sensor constantly. And shield and boost more and more into the game. And swapping between these 4 simple abilities makes this sandbox gameplay much more fun. Very diverse.
It’s not a perfect game, has many issues, that’s for sure. But in the whole I reaaly had loads of fun with the campaign.
Cheers!
No one ever really could do it quite like Bungee, sad to hear... didn't think this would be a game I'd skip especially with a steam version day and date but here we are :(
You mean classic bungie before all the big names that made Halo left. The bungie we have today aren't the same bungie and I'd argue they would do a very bad Halo game today all I need to do is look at destiny as evidence of that.
@@jaigray5422 I do yeah :) like how current Rare is a shell of it's former self.
I wish bungie was back so they can monetize the game even harder
So legitimate question, when it comes to the missions and level design. How is this so different from something like Doom Eternal? Kill demons in an arena, gain a weapon, move onto next arena, complete onjective, kill in an arena etc. This sounds like every Halo game, and most praised modern shooters. What do people expect from a Halo game? You mentioned "It feels like playing a 2001 game in 2021" Isn't that exactly what Doom was? I'm confused in all these reviews as to what people want. You said it feels and plays like a Halo game, isn't that the point?
Love the content mate, thank you!
From what I'm seeing from the previews and what Gman is talking about, there is like zero level variety. At least in Halo CE you were going to samey looking corridors but they were in different settings, in Halo Infinite all I see is a bunch of trees and forerunner architecture, it's nothing new. It shouldn't really even be compared to Doom Eternal because Doom Eternal essentially remixed the boomer shooter genre with a completely new combat loop while Halo Infinite's campaign is just...stagnant because the level design doesn't fully take advantage of the new mechanics. Perhaps there should have been different biomes in the Halo ring for Chief to visit, all with vastly different missions and playstyles. All of these Halo "fans" took the phrase "return to form" too seriously and now it's like the devs are too afraid to take a risk, so they played it safe with the campaign as to not alienate fans. I dunno, people say if they're a Halo fan they'll enjoy Infinite, I don't enjoy what they're doing with the campaign, but I'm hoping tomorrow will change my mind.
Nope the difference in gameplay is massive, halos combat loop/ Doom eternal's fun zone are very different, eternal is not just a run around point and shoot like halo , you have to think on what gun to use on what enemy, make quick switching combos, constant resource management of health armor grenades etc, it's much more complex, insanely fast, and rewardingly challenging, Halo caters more towards a casual fan which is completely fine but it needs to support that approach with better story telling and atmosphere which infinite does not
@@kerrito7836 That’s the main problem really. The fans really don’t want the gameplay to evolve at all. Look at how most of them regard Halo 5 or hell, even sprinting in general.
@@eyywannn8601 Sucks that it's not just a vocal minority either. Some folks will never be happy.
@@eyywannn8601 Sprint doesn't really belong, just up the movement speed and have halo 2 jump. Sprint creates an illusion of being fast when really all it does is take up a spot on controller. I think dashes are better option for speedy gameplay and more tactical uses. Halo 5 have good ideas for abilities but they where either pointless or just underwhelming.
While the campaign has nothing super impressive or industry changing, that feeling of it being made with 2007 game design principals (apart from the open world aspect which ironically is probably the worst part of the campaign) is a fresh change of pace from what everyone else in the AAA industry is doing. It just took what worked back in the day and refined it for today’s age which is fine for me at least
I'll have to wait to play it to cast my judgement but while I'm happy they are returning to the series roots I also agree with Gman in that disappointing that there isn't much in the way of innovation either
Titanfall 2 and Doom Eternal had incredible campaigns. This is better than far cry 6 but that is not a hard bar to reach.
I disagree with the open world part. One of the main reasons I liked ODST so much is I would just walk around searching for audio logs and killing covenant to find weapon cashes. Halo Infinite seems to basically be that on steroids.
That sentiment is what sold me on the game. Still can't find an XSX anywhere, but I look forward to getting back into Halo. Last game I played was 4. Infinite will be the first game I play after I finish setting up retroarch.
Im a big Halo fan and this review kinda confirmed my fears of Halo going openworld. Halos combat was never designt to be cramed into a big repetiv openworld loop. The Games mostly stick to small tactical encounters and even when you occasionly get to enjoy a sandbox style section with vehicles they made sure it was over before you got sick of them. The best levels of Halo had you constanly moving forward, switching weapons and encountering different enemie formations. Just looking at the footage this seems like another boring openworld shooter, just about 10 years behind the competion. And the fact that we aint getting coop until mid 2022 kinda kills my hype to ever touch this game.
the game feels like far cry 3. Honestly the lack of imagination killed this game for me. They had such a cool setting to make a gurellia warfare style of halo but they chose the standard ubisoft liberate outposts formula. It would‘ve been cool if you had to free marines, odsts and spartans, build a new army and started raiding outposts and major enemy bases like in shadow of war. They could‘ve done so much with this setting, yet they chose to do the same thing we got tired of doing years ago.
I fully agree, I mean beside a few level from each entry that had an "open world" feels to them, halo 3 ODST kinda nailed a perfect balance of being semi open world and yet still have a linear narrative driving story. I read that 343i was really trying to push a Zelda breath of the wild type of gameplay, which would've been kinda cool ngl, but that's Zelda. They have always been more of an adventurous type of game. Personally, if 343 wanted to try something new; they should have adopted Halo 3 ODST semi open hub world, with a lot of different things to do and see, like different biomes and forerunner structures, and have the opportunity to continue the story by reaching to this specific place or destination.
@@Faded.Visuals I loved odst. But 343 have been at conflict with original halo principles from art to mechanics and overdramatization, of characters and loosing overarching story. 343 since 4 has shown their inability to me, its a shame cause I don't think we will ever get anything close to the original halo games.
No joke, Halo 4's Cortana didn't even need full blown pre-rendered cutscenes, hell, I don't remember there being ANY pre-rendered cutscenes, AND YET she looked a thousand times better than "not cortana". She emoted better by a long shot, I mean shit, the ending to Halo 4 is one of the few reason why I remember that game, that and it's still one of the prettiest games of that generation and still holds up today on my aging Halo Reach 360. I can seriously tell that the animation/mocap quality for the characters in cutscenes just isn't as good as Halo Reach, 4, or fuck, even 5.
Wanna feel really old? Remember when Halo 1 was announced and the footage we were shown was on the "new" pentium III with 500 mHz? Well I do...
No joke, halo ce looks better than infinite.
I too just miss the days of having tightly crafted linear narratives with decent storyline
The problem is that the story was fucked beyond the point of being salvageable by Halo 4 and 5. Even Halo Wars 2 was weird with the Banished. The Banished are such a stupid faction. They could have just set up a splinter faction of Brutes from the remnants of the Covenant.
But regardless. Halo lost its identity a decade ago. Frank O'Connor and Co drove the story off a cliff and nothing short of a total reboot can save it.
Long-time fans can't seem to come to terms with this fact. It's like trying to salvage the Star Wars Prequels or Sequels with the third episode. It just can't be done.
All of the core plots and themes of Halo have been retconned and abandoned long ago. All the mystery is gone. There's nothing left, just dust and echoes.
>I'm not the biggest Halo fan
>The last one I played on launch was Halo 2
You are a true Halo fan
The first Dying Light also had a grappling hook about halfwayish through the game, I thought it was dumb at first but changed things up a bit and refreshed it for me. I’m glad I didn’t have in the beginning though, the beginning would’ve been too easy
Another Dying Light fan huh?
Story sucked but the game was tons of fun, the progression was rewarding too. Buuuutt, it was fairly buggy and online never really worked for me very well. I fear similar issues for 2
@@alexmurphy5289 Totally
the abilities are actually very useful for speedrunning
there were some parts I just skipped because I had to redo them because I had to restart the mission for various reasons but once everything is upgraded it becomes very useful for replayability. Also there is a skull on the 11th or 12th mission where you have to not kill any sentinels, and on legendary if you're gonna run past these guys you definitely need the thruster to be maxed so you can camo and speed through the whole sentinel section
The legendary gman!!! Great review as always I'm just excited to play Infinite for the grapple shot lol.
Gman: "why tf does this lame shit feel like a shooter from 2001?"
also Gman: "fuck yeah this is like 1996-98 all over again!"
once again retro fps fanboys fail to get out of the box and be open to new things
@@catb0mb well he even said he never cared for Halo, and its pretty obvious he likes Doom like FPS more then modern shooters, I"m in the same boat i prefer arcade shooters more, they are more fun
@@kyotheman69 its still fucking stupid to complain about a game "being from 2001" while at the same time constantly sucking off samey bland indie fps trying to act liek theyre from 98
the divide between modern and retro is so aids
"You may aswell be playing combat evolved with a better engine and couple of new tricks" is his exact wording which lets be honest, its true.
I think the difference is that AAA should push the limits. And what was AAA at 2001 are can be done by indies today. Like if dusk was ID software game with a 60$ price tag.
@18:52 a 2001 game would have more interesting level design than this, (i.e Return to Castle Wolfenstein or even Halo CE's "The Silent Cartographer" map).
This is basically like one halo level stretched to 10 hours. The variety in levels is a huge turn off honestly.
Have to disagree on the evade being useless. It's incredibly useful for moving during the grappleshot cooldown, and hotswapping between the two really improves mobility. Also, that cloaking upgrade saved my ass so many times. You can use it to avoid death since enemies won't be able to hit you unless you're super close, and even grapple away while cloaked. It may not last very long, but most situations it's just enough to get you to a safe spot to regen your shields. The boss battles become a bit easier as well since you can change direction multiple times and much more quickly than grappling alone.
Damn cortana was dummy thicc in halo 4 its just crazy to see the replacement
Halo 5 was already a decline in digital waifu quality, but infinite is straight a nosedive.
Really? I think the weapon is a fucking babe
Cortana looked like an sjw in halo 4. Im glad they changed her
@MrDjBigZ i actually quite liked how chief was forced to develop as a character because of cortana. but that never went anywhere in the end, so it was a waste of our time. i guess their writers just suck, and we can leave it at that
@@chimkinNuggzThey literally gave her a sexy naked model in that one.
I don’t think that’s something SJWs would push for when they’re usually a bunch of prudes.
11:09 ...Oh my god. This is my biggest complaint with Skyrim, with the cliffy mountainous parts being obvious gates to force encounter chokepoints and stall progression out, this combo'd with how the game forces you to go to the ass ends of the map constantly. It's annoying that this way of elongating playtime is still very much a thing.
Yeah I just mountain goat'd up High Hrothgar from that first town
at least it's more respectable than just an invisible wall
Lol it’s an RPG. And you ever heard of FAST TRAVEL dumbo.
@@Samurai-jakk Responses like this is why Fast Travel continues to be used as a crutch for lazy game design. 'If you can just teleport to it again every other time, why not make the first time a right ol' pain in the ass?' Even Oblivion had this issue and don't lie to yourself about it, and many a modern game does this same exact bullcrap.
@@gratuitouslurking8610 yep. it's an excuse for drab, barren world design
I don't know if they fixed the issues with an update or something coz I am getting locked 60 fps on high to ultra at native 4k (not ultrawide) in the outside areas and 100 fps indoors.
2 days until Infinite and you released a video about Halo. First the 25th anniversary for Return to Castle Wolfenstein and now this? Count me in!
I can only imagine how the horrendously late co-op addition would bring the drab map layouts to attention. As much as i suck at pvp it would seem like the mp would keep my interest over the campaign if they adjust experience progression and add content such as weapons, modes, more maps.
I really thought after Doom Eternal that Halo Infinite would have borrowed a a few more bullet points from that game since, even if it's "open world", is still a corridor shooter at it's heart. Gameplay wise, I think I'll stick with the former.
Halo should never be like Doom. Two completely different types of shooters, it would abandon the franchises roots.
Halo was/is an arena shooter not a corridor shooter
@@Dara-mm9ne I'm pretty sure he meant in terms of semi-open level design, not gameplay.
Which mind you is still kinda silly. Doom Eternal is basically a bunch of circular arenas connected by corridors devoted towards either platforming or exploration (or both). That's not really the best fit for Halo.
@@Dara-mm9ne how are they two different types of shooters halo is legit inspired solely by games like doom and quake you egg
@@urnotgoodxd you don't know what you're talking about
The lack of environment variety is my biggest issue I mean really no rust like in halo 2 no swamp no desert not snow just the same pine trees. The game looks like farcry 5 in the outdoor sections and the indoor is to reflective, I honestly don’t know what to think, and they constantly say the ring is “DECAYING” sure doesn’t look like it in halo 2 you had rust on the structures, they should have taken notes from that do something like in the multiplayer map water works just give stuff actual decay, even little details like the more rough areas leaking water like how mines do in real life that would add a sense of atmosphere which this game lacks deeply. The original halo had this sense of mystery and a unknowing feeling and little bit of horror and a ALIEN feel with a look of trying to imitate a natural world which was a great feeling this game feels lacking in that. What do you guys think this game is missing I’d like to know
Yes it looks bland, sadly most people think it looks amazing, the bar for quality is dropping more and more every year.
Ehh hal9 2 is perfect
Guess this is not the DOOM of Halo fans looking for :(
It's sad when most of AAA open-world games are so empty.
But people are really excited about open world games, so that's exactly what they're going for I guess.
Pretty sure he'd complain even if this was the Doom 2016 of Halo, as he doesn't seem like the biggest fan of the Halo formula to begin with.
@@darthsonic4135 Well he pretty much prefers retro fps. Halo was damned on this channel from the start, and honestly I think a lot of worried Halo fans getting worried by the review need to relax.
The iconic Gman shiiiiit quip never gets old. Keep up the good work Gman love the videos!
RUclips removing the dislike button really turned this place into twitter
Indeed. There's so much salt here. Shame on youtube
Is it wrong that I keep going back to the head-bobbing cat scene? I just love it 😂😂😂😂😂
343, the new Halo Killer
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This game having 2001 feel is a good thing for Halo fans
Maybe, but he prob didn't mean it in a good way lol
It is and it isn't. 343 knows they need to go back to OG Bungie's original thinking, but in doing so, they completely failed to understand how to design within Halo but still innovate. OG Bungie understood how to do this obviously. 343 though does not, hence why it feels so formulaic. That's because it is. 343 is coloring within the lines, but they used lines that OG Bungie already set down long ago instead of understanding why Bungie put the lines there the way they did and making their own line design based on that philosophy. They understand that there's a formula (OG Bungie's design process), and they understand that some of the answers (the Halo trilogy + Reach) are consistent with that formula. But they don't actually have the formula itself.
@@arnox4554 man halo 3 odst hub world design all those years ago makes infinite attempts look sad rip.
@@loubloom1941 Which is fucking bizarre considering what a big Boomer Shooter fan he is.
By 2001 feel people mean missions like the silent cartographer or halo. Not the copy pasted corridors in the 2nd half.
After Doom Eternal this almost looks and feels like a retro title.
Don't insult the classics, this game looks like a school project nothing like the 90's masterpieces.
@@llamadasinrespuesta4631 90's masterpieces were school projects
@@KoKey-hd4bm nah, 90s games were barrels of home made wine that have aged to perfection.
God shooter fans like you and Gman are so fucking cringe. You hate Halo so much for the 2 weapons only and reloading tropes so you are obligated to shit on it as much as possible. I like Doom and Halo the same, you are biased as hell.
@@fareflight2029 If you love Halo more power to you. But even with fan goggles on, you have to admit the level design, based on Gman's video, was pretty damn barren. And the shooter action also looked old-fashioned and slow. They tell me Halo is all about the story so that may be why people go bonkers for this.
So, I'm definitely a Halo fanboy, but I've been a bit disillusioned since 4 came out. I'm talking reading books and graphic novels level fanboy. However, I don't think anything that Gman said seemed unfair, and a few of them (like marvel humor) are things that I've seen and been concerned about. The only part where I think he was wrong was that previous Halo games didn't have verticality. Especially in Halo Reach, there was plenty of verticality and it really felt like a disadvantage not having the high ground. The idea of having the semi open world to run around in was done in ODST. But the mainline games were known for having memorable and awesome set pieces and it pains me to see it DEvolve into crap instead of evolve... heh.
I never said Halo games don't have verticality, I'm talking about Infinite's arenas specifically.
@@Gggmanlives you never liked halo to begin with shut the hell up
@@Gggmanlives You lying dunce. Shut up and stick to Doom-inspired shooters please, for the love of God.
THANKS , finally someone mentions the performance in their review . Mp performance was sh*t but i was wondering if they fixed it for the campaign....Thanks for the review G
Can't help but feel like this game has no surprises gameplay wise at all.
This looks so much less fun then Halo Reach, think that will stay my favorite. Does this one also finish the story of 5? It stopped when cortana got the gaurdians and left. I am not seeing any gaurdians in any footage.
Nope, its a soft reboot. Not a single plot line from 5 is in this game.
@@cheezoncrack1 Halo 5 STILL happened in universe even if not mentioned; get fucked and the actual sequel to 5 is Halo Wars 2, it takes place 3-4 months later and it shows a Guardian at the end of the game after Professor Anders (Halsey's protege') uses a Halo ring to teleport to the Reach system to call for UNSC backup for the Spirit of Fire. Halo Infinite is actually a sequel to Halo Wars 2 and Halo 5. Bet you the UNSC Spirit of Fire will show up in game at some point, Master Chief will meet Red Team and Spartan Jerome. Captain Cutter is the new Captain Keyes
@@nickm5419 lol none of that happens, no red/blue team, no carter, no spirit of fire, no flood, nothing, better start lowering your expectations
@@cheezoncrack1 Except that's not true in the slightest. There are MASSIVE plot points involving Cortana and the Created. Especially the stuff with Doisac.
Master Chief's story was finished. 4, 5, and Infinite weren't necessary.
Not only are not necessary and unwanted games but are also putrid garbage.
@@eternalflame347 call me a boomer, but after Reach, I didn't really care about Halo. When they announced Halo 4 would be about MC again, I just thought "didn't he already finish his arc?" Halo CE was my first video game, and I'm sad to see the series go down this route.
@@discipleofsound4565 Side stories like ODST was great, I would've loved to see one from the Covenants perspective in High Charity.
I mean, as he said, he isn’t the biggest Halo fan and I respect that. I feel Infinite was made more for an existing fan base of players, then again, I do agree that the lack of diversity in level design is disappointing because Halo 3 and Reach had some amazing vistas to look at.
And at the end of the day, I’m not the biggest fan either, but perhaps it will still catch that magic with me like in Halo 3. Kind of like me having to learn to love Devil May Cry, which now I do. Or me needing to get into the Souls games. If I don’t feel it with a certain game though, I’ll bounce off. If that’s what he ended up doing, that’s him. I’m at least grateful for an honest, unbiased overall look at the game from a non-fanboy perspective.
"I feel Infinite was made more for an existing fan base of players"
Playing through the MCC with a friend at the moment, and I really don't get that feeling from what I'm seeing of Infinite. Where are the epic set-pieces, and the dramatic sense of journey and movement through multiple environments? Where's the feeling of being part of an epic war story?
That's the thing about Halo 1 and 2, and Reach of course (I have yet to play 3) - they may be science fiction, they may have some space magic, but they feel like war stories. They feel like Band of Brothers, with aliens.
Infinite does not look or feel at all the same to me - someone who just the other day completed SPV3, and the original Halo on Legendary.
@@NicholasBrakespear I said that’s how I feel it was made, and was referring more to how it was marketed as well as the gameplay, namely Halo’s famous gunloop. I agree that the story of Halo has been lost a bit, especially the back against the wall war story feel. I was not referring to the story in that particular instance, I apologize for the confusion.
I think it is important to remember that this guy said that in Halo CE he didn't like that Elites rolled away from grenades and that the A.I was smart
I never said that.
343 really seem to struggle when deciding how to handle the single player. We haven't had a good halo campaign since Reach.
You are in luck if you understand halo wars 2 and the other games this is a treat for those fans not ones that havent touched it in a while
Infinite's campaign is being praised almost everywhere. Don't say that just because ggman says he doesn't like it lol. He says "it feels like I'm playing a game from 2001 in 2021" but he's the biggest fan of the boomer shooters and boring old school FPS games, I watch him because he's funny but I don't share his tastes for FPS games whatsoever.
I mean he likes Far Cry even though Far Cry's open world is literally just "get to X, snipe and stealth kill a few enemies, if it goes to shit pull out the Assault Rifle" while Infinite designs the open world objectives with tight enemy placement and level design that almost forces you to use all the tools available to you which is quite honestly a big achievement when it comes to open world game design in this era of Ubisoft open world games.
well they are company that took over the IP, Halo was Bungie game
I liked 4’s a lot it had great settings, set pieces, and a nice change of ice with its focus on more distanced encounters. I have no idea how they couldn’t just do something nice and simple like that again.
Hard to clean the halo4 and 5 mess
It’s amaIng how polar opposite Halo Infinite is to Doom Eternal. Both featuring long-time green astronauts with a word implying never-ending in their titles, yet Doom Eternal was a massive evolution for its series while Infinite was just run of the mill.
That performance drop when entering the open world, holy fuck. It bloody tanked my 6900 XT and that card is supposed to be one of the most powerful graphics cards out there. Yet I was still barely getting 30 fps when everything is set on high. lmao
I am of the firm belief that 343 couldn't make a game as good as Bungie did (and they had a lot of their problems) if their life depended on it.
To be fair, out of the 3 games they made, Infinite seems to be the best of the bunch. But Halo 5 set such a low bar, it hardly even counts.
@@Ckoz2829 Halo 5 still can't be ignored as it singlehandedly turned one the most popular video game franchises ever made (to the point it was a cultural phenomenon) into a barely remembered niche series
It's hard to overstate how deeply that game wounded the series
It went beyond "so bad we should ignore it" to "so bad we need to remember it,so that it never happens again"
@@silverhand9965 pretty sure gman would love it because hes not a halo fan. everyone who ive talked to who loves halo 5 always downtalks the previous games.. always. which immediately highlights to me that they were never really a fan of halo.
halo 4 and infinite's campaigns are infinitely better than any bungie campaign with the exception of halo 2 and maybe ODST, if you're feeling generous.
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You’re trying to tell me that Halo 4 was better than Halo 3?
Great review! Seems like one of the few impartial takes on the game.
15:48 BRUUUU that is the best hallway I have seen in 10 years
Im confused. How has gman played the campaign? I thought that comes out on 12/8?
Review code.
It's the same as with Gears of War, they're like "we have this series, gameplay has barely changed since the first one, what do? Add Open World!!"
Wanna see both series do some Doom/Wolfenstein-style reimagining.
Was thinking the same. It's like there is no will at Microsoft to improve the game mechanics of their games.
And when they do change the gameplay, the fanbase looses their mind. Halo 4 tried something different and people hated. Look at assassin's creed, fanbase hates the new games.
Devs are always willing to change, its the fanbase that refuses to move on.
@@saruboss18 halo 4 was awful. Dont pull this "they dont like change" shit.
@@12halo3 i really liked it
@@cheese186 Infinite has the best mechanics of any Halo. They do improve it. But regardless if it was linear or open world, people would complain
Not Cortana is just Cortana with the sex appeal option disabled
I am not a Halo fan but I was thinking of picking it up because I like open world shooters. Does Halo Infinite have a weapon wheel? I was listening while working and wasn't sure Gman touched on that
Not worth it, play far cry instead.
It does not but you won't need one as Halo only lets you carry two weapons and you switch between them with a press of a button (on controller is Y)
You got to pick two weapons to.carry at once
that cat head banging REALLY cracked me up😂