Can A Grappler Survive A High School Wrestling Practice? Feat. Ben Askren
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- FloGrappling's own Trey Robinson decided to see if he has what it takes to survive a high school wrestling practice lead by Max and Ben Askren!
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"Wrestling is a better base for Jiu jitsu than Jiu jitsu is for Wrestling" 1000% agree
As a bjj guy I agree. Especially for those guard pullers out there good fkn luck winning a wrestling match 😂
And that’s why I start my bjj classes out with takedowns almost regularly. 15-20 mins of takedown drilling minimum. You gotta have good takedowns and be comfortable on your feet, especially for practical situations.
jiu jitsu is mat ninja BS for the most part. I guess its more practical than kung fu.
@@Mike-pv3hg Lmao no. Jiu Jitsu isn't a good base for wrestling, because 95% of jiujitsu is grappling. In wrestling if you pin someone's back to the mat you win. That's silly considering you can get chocked out even if their back is to the mat. They're both useful and work well together.
@@johnsonparker9817thats the point genius they dont have to.
"Seems like a free pass to an injury." That was smart. Smart kid there. Respect. He's got a good perspective. I hope he can apply it to the rest of his life.
Not running is going to make you more prone to getting hurt? I don't think so.
Yeah but we lay down and just kinda roll around a bit
@@kommisar. he was talking about the warmup in general. the kid was saying "not warming up" is a free pass to injury.
@@Lockdown335 😆😆 true that. I mean for sure that helps too. not sure if you're being lighthearted or being serious, but I'm just commenting on the fact that the kid was commenting that "skipping warmup(s)" is not smart.
But there is drilling and technique before sparring...
I would love another video like this but with craig jones visiting a wrestling club, would be hilarious
I think Craig could probably handle high schoolers lmao he's way bigger than this random purp
He would get absolutely throttled, add in mat wrestling and he has zero shot
This would test the limits of “Just Stand Up”
I want Craig to visit a Sambo school
@@josephbooth8988he has decent wrestling
Wrestled in hs and college. And have been doing bjj now for twenty years with some of the best on earth... Nothing was as hard as those wrestling practices.
Same here. Wrestled for a good wrestling school in a tough division in Northeast PA and then went onto train in BJJ at Matt Riddle's gym in Palmerton for over a decade. Nothing compares to wrestling IMO. The best grapplers at that gym all had wrestling backgrounds. Matt included.
What an amazing opportunity to train in a room like this. I’ve been going to a wrestling club on Mondays and getting beaten up by high school wrestlers. It’s helped my grappling so much
I know that Bradley hill started out in bjj then later went into freestyle wrestling. Got a bronze 🥉 medal at British national championship in wrestling.
Or laetitia Blot who went from judo TO women wrestling ( freestyle wrestling) to sambo. Now does mma with a base in bjj and Luta Livre ( catch wrestling and judo).
@@tichtran664UK wrestling is a joke by all standards lol
@@samcooper4024 What about Joe Hendry?! He went from pro wrestling to legit freestyle wrestling. He went all the way to quarter final of the Commonwealth games. Commonwealth games are for former British empire countries. Yes Scottish ARE British. Great Britain composed of England, Scotland, and Wales. UK is Great Britain AND Northern Ireland. Plus may know real catch wrestling since he was trained by Marty Jones and Johnny Saint ( students of Billy Robinson who knew real catch wrestling). And black belt in judo. Plus train in bjj. He wants to someday do MMA.
@@tichtran664 No one ever talks about UK wrestling. No athlete in the UK wrestling system is ever in contention for a medal at a significant ranking series event or championship (Euros, Worlds, Olympics, etc)
Wrestling is a Martial Art and is underemphasized in most Jiu-Jitsu clubs. Both sports can learn a lot from each other as was shown in this video. Great to see both clubs share knowledge.
That how catch wrestling came to be. When Japanese juijitsu met ORIGINAL catch wrestling ( most likely no submission). But in 1930s and 1940s double wrist lock/kimura and body scissors/guard were used in amateur wrestling. If you want to say it originally came from Japanese fine with me. But there was a EARLIER style called Lancashire up and down fighting which DID have submission. Although mostly neck crank, strangle, and full nelson.
@@tichtran664 And now it's nowhere to be seen. Hmm....
@@kommisar. Catch wrestling is rare but NOT dead.
@@tichtran664 Might as well be. I can find a BJJ gym in Iowa more easily than a catch wrestling gym in a big city.
@@kommisar. Is there a Luta Livre or submission art wrestling school nearby?! Or combat submission wrestling school nearby?!
The title of the video is a question I think we've all Ben Askren ourselves
hahahahahha
Askren has that Gigachad face on the thumbnail 😆
Man looks like a roman of ancient times
Laugh at Ben all you want. He’s got his family, a business doing what he wants, and he’s humble. Shame on anyone who used to trash him.
Jake Pauls son
He got whooped though.
I wouldn’t say humble but he does have all that good stuff
@nostromo9081 he got whooped in wrestling, but he has a successful business and makes a lot of money.
@@nostromo9081 You would too for 1/10th of the money he made
One of the best vids Flo has dropped in a while
Awesome! I know a lot of wrestlers who moved to Bjj after wrestling was over and they all made very fast progress. Also it was a lot easier on their bodies as they get older.
Thas what I say to Boxers who want to move onto either KickBoxing or MuayThai its easier transition then vice versa.
There are those who went from bjj to freestyle wrestling. Like Bradley Hill of royal juijitsu.
@tichtran664 Bradley Hill who competes for Hawkeye Wrestling Club from Bettendorf Iowa who competed in the US Open freestyle is a different Bradley Hill than Royal Jiu Jitsu Bradley Hill different people bro
@@marcoleone8189 I wasn't mentioning American Bradley Hill.
There was a D1 wrestler that started BJJ and regrettably I tore my MCL so was watching from the sidelines, but with no BJJ background at all he was wiping the floor with people. He helped everyone out in a big way and it was a huge eye opener for a lot of the guys.
would be sick for you to do the same thing with a high level judo academy
The epic music constantly starting and then ending abruptly was gold.
These kids all seem super humble and they look like they're actually having fun, love it...
Fun stuff. Some great sportsmanship shown.
I felt this. All the guys in my gym are wrestlers turned grapplers and it sucks to grapple them. I literally just try and pull guard!
I feel like its the best foundation you can have for grappling, then pile on jits from there. Everyone that came from wrestling that ive rolled with is just another level even if their bjj is amature
@@austinohlrich9370 for sure. I think wrestlers with no bjj can get caught in subs easily. But as soon as they learn subs it's over for the rest of us
@@austinohlrich9370 Or you could actually TRY to get better at takedowns....
This makes me feel a lot better, I just started wrestling as a brown belt and have 16 year olds killing me
Checks out. I once met a guy at my club who was literally missing his left foot. He walked in. Slaughtered everyone, including one of the coaches who was a former state champ in Missouri, and then I never saw him again. If you wanna be the best in wrestling, you have to have a different kind of mindset. More than that the best wrestlers function at such a high intensity that them going is easy is max intensity for pretty much everyone else.
One wristlock💪
I don't understand why there are still people that think wrestlers are not classified as grapplers? Wrestling is probably the oldest grappling art. Wrestling, Judo and Jiu - Jitsu are Grappling martial arts.
Who said wrestling isn’t grappling? I have NEVER EVER heard that before….
@@giggityeffyou Just look and read the title. It implies that wrestlers are somehow in a different category from grapplers. When in fact, we both know that wrestlers are grapplers. The problem is that there are some people that when they think about grappling, they only think about Jiu-Jutsu.
I think people don't consider wrestling a martial art, is what he was getting at.
grappling in this context is not grappling martial arts but the sport of submission grappling
Askren’s analysis is right on point. BJJ guys don’t understand the importance of hips at all on the feet.
can you elaborate on this? i just started bjj a year ago and people with wrestling experience always win the takedown exchanges
@@kom452 Not a wrestler but I hope this helps: as a BJJ guy, you no doubt know the importance of hips on the ground. For shrimping, control, etc. its more or less your base once it hits the mat. On the feet, its the same thing but BJJ guys don't really practice takedowns or understand the importance of the hips. If you've ever rolled with a grappler, I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, their takedowns are much much better. Even in a clinch, they feel the way you're moving or rotating and can counter it very effectively. That's why its easier to transition from wrestling to BJJ than the other way around, you don't have the muscle memory of how that all works.
Now this is great content!
Trying single leg takedowns against wrestlers is really a great idea. It's like attempting an ogoshi against a judo guy 😂
Single is the most common leg attack in wrestling.
@@christianpyles1820 really? It's almost as if that's exactly what I wrote in my first comment. 😂🫶
@@falkhammermuller9342 Well that's kinda my point, it's the takedown used most to takedown wrestlers, so it actually is obvious to use it.
@@christianpyles1820not if you’re not a wrestler.
@@christianpyles1820 /woosh
Awesome video! Please do more cross-over stuff. That is where the community is going, especially with the former wrestlers getting into grappling. Ben Askren said (after his super fight with Jake Herbert) that JJ is actually closer to Folkstyle than Freestyle. That was before the "danger position" rule but I still think he is right.
Good stuff, love to see the youth of our country strong, skilled, and having a great time.
Should have started the jiu-jitsu match standing and see how you can recover when you go down.
Please do the same thing with a judo academy!
Ben Askren has the face of an ancient Philosopher King.
Marcus Askernus?
"You mean like tell em there's a hot girl in the crowd??"
"I don't even know what that is but yeah go try that."
LOL
This is GREAT crossover training and insight. Ben hit it on the head when he described the difference in the nuance between the two. Wrestling was the very first primal martial arts that everything else evolved from. One thing to point out, which I think we take for granted in the USA. Our wrestling programs. Think about it. Most wrestling programs are absolutely free and provided as part of school sports or programs in the Boys and Girls Club. In contrast, how much do you think you would have to pay a Jiu-Jitsu academy overtime to be competent in that disciple? Probably thousands. Great job guys👍
wrist locking teenagers 🔥
Wrestling IS grappling.
And one that is most natural and effective.
It's a very good base for starting martial arts, and BJJ is a good finishing cherry on top.
Very well put. From my experience, nothing beats straight wrestling for control or strength/conditioning. That is why wrestling is so damn good in MMA, they can control you from top position and just rain hell. By contrast, BJJ is much much more about rolling for an extended length of time (slow twitch rather than fast twitch), not burning yourself out, and using technique rather than strength. Submissions are mostly from BJJ and that's how you finish fights, not by pinning someone. Both are important but for sheer versatility, wrestling is the best base for MMA.
Great content guys. It's so funny years ago as a ITF tkd guy I thought I was bad azz, but after some bjj training and watching actual wrestlers like this, I realise with utmost clarity that I'd have NEVER survived against any of these type of Beasts!
“Hey do you like girls?” 😂😂😂😂
Should try to do a judo class. Hit up Travis Stevens or Jimmy Pedro.
Love it. Thiensville AWA crew representing! My son wrestles at this academy. Ben and Max have a tremendous program and we're grateful to be a part of it.
The wrist lock tho😂
I love wrestling and bjj, this was a fun crossover video.
Dude that’s so true about purple belt and above not having to do warm ups lol
Learning from Ben Askren is like training with a blanket. Covers you, and not much use other than going to sleep. Like most of his fights.
My friend and I are both BJJ black belts. 6 months ago we started training with a Japanese veteran champion. He feels so strong it's like he is superhuman. I love wrestling and BJJ. They are both worth doing.
Cool. Exactly like Ben visiting Marcelo Garcia and rolling with him ;)
The great thing about BJJ coming to America is that you have people with a strong wrestling background melding that with jiujitsu. I never wrestled as a kid and that was one of the biggest hurdles that I had to overcome in my jiujitsu game. These two different styles are blending together in a lot of gyms throughout the country.
wristlocking wrestlers is really the icing on the cake
very interesting to watch
Serrano High School. 2:15-4:15 Phelan CA. Come stop by.
this was fun to watch, thank you for putting yourself into the fire for us to watch and enjoy.
the music and edit are hilarious
that was fun to watch
All the old school carny/pro wrestlers were versed in catch as catch can wrestling holds and submissions. They were legit. They could out wrestle and submit top guys
If they learn some catch sure but I think they only know freestyle , they probably could take most grapplers d9wn but would have issues with the guards. Granted they likely would pick up quickly since they have some grappling
lol really enjoyable vlog. probably the best flo one ive seen. great job!
heck yeah
Askren looks like a ancient Roman wrestler or boxer literally 😂
Would love to give this a go!
Absolutely loved this video
Ben Askren looks like every Greek God statue ever
Literally
Loved it
Like the umploto to wrislock i gotta try that sometime, ben is right though bjj guys should spend more time learning takedowns cause in a fight being on bottom usually doesn't end well, unless u have a really really dangerous guard
that was fun. more of these please!
Jiu-jitsu is something you can do for life. I wrestled in my younger days but picked up Jiu-jitsu in my late 30s. There is no way in hell I could wrestle to any degree now (57), but jj is something I can do for life. Both fantastic.
Trey definitely did better than I would've there lol. I love being a 10th Planet guy, but I have white belt wrestling. This was fun to watch.
This was hilarious lol
I wrestled in the midwest in the late 70's and I'm STILL tired from it. It wasn't uncommon to throw up the get right back into it. And I SWEAR I don't recall ever drinking water but we must have
Come to the east coast and check out Blair Academy, Wyoming Sem, and Bethlehem Catholic !! But you did great bro !!!
Very entertaining. Great bunch of wrestlers!
I love the Nate Diaz flex at the end of the video lol
Good to see Ben again have not seen him since the Jake fight lol
Nice man. Respect to my wrestling and bjj fam ❤
I see this and think that we need a wrestling culture in the UK. These lads are proper tough
this was great!
NOW try a catch wrestling school. It a happy medium between submission grappling and amateur wrestling.
In fact I want him to compete at Snake Pit Wigan catch wrestling world championships. At wigan NO choke. But neck cranks such as catch style crossface and face lock okay.
Take downs. Like Graco Roman
@@mikenuzzo3323more like freestyle than Greco-Roman, no? you can go for the legs in catch wrestling
Yes more like freestyle wrestling but with submission. BUT the suplex came from Greco roman wrestling. And in old days there was PROFESSIONAL Greco roman wrestling. Believe it or not.
LOL 🤣.
Both arts are amazing 🗿👍
Now go to college wrestling lol
Okay I will
What a awesome video. Definition entertaining but I learned a lot too. Would love to pick up a martial art, but just have been an enthusiast for the last year.
Casuals don’t know how good Askren is at wrestling and grappling in general I had the privilege to work with him at ATT back in 08 really nice guy
American Wrestling + BJJ = American Jiu Jitsu >>> The best form of Grappling on the planet!
Well there is a form of competition that COMBINED amateur wrestling with submission. That catch wrestling. But with MORE submission. Including catch style crossface, face lock, etc. Pin or submission.
This already exists, it's called Judo.
You mean catch as catch can wrestling which folk style came from
We had to run 5 miles, then do synchronized high rep weight lifting for 30 minutes before we could do warm ups to start practicing.
I don't know about anyone else's experience, but I feel like that took care of the conditioning aspect of wrestling real quick
we do around the same
wrestling + submissions = Super Power
🗣️ MORE TREY ROBINSON CONTENT
Wrestling is just so obviously the best base for pretty much everything.
Great vid idea
Askren's looking in amazing shape
Ben looks in great shape again
Do one where you go against Judo competitors at Travis Stevens' gym.
The Askren clan is massive it seems
20 years of BJJ and 3 years of freestyle and greco and on my first years of BJJ, I was already asked my bjj instructors to ton it down. I also realize how easy BJJ warm ups are compare to wrestling.
Just yesterday, our BJJ instructor asked us, one more time, ONE MORE TIME, to tone down the intensity. I'm about to burst into explosion.
sounds like youre just being disrespectful in the gym and not really helping people learn
you sound terrible
Not me sir. Them. They have to ton down. I roll smooth, chill and cool reason why guys love rolling with me. But the instructor doesn't like to single out the guys he'll losing customers, so he yells: guys ton it down. @@234i9
The dynamic changes a lot when theres no threat of submission lmao
Ben Askren stands like Blanka when hes in burnout in Street Fighter 6 😂
This was great.
3:51 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The edit in this video is hilarious
awesome video!!!
Awesome video, good times 😂 🏆 💪
Love to see you do a collab with sandman.
That was a light practice. take him in a real intense one
The dirty wrist lock ftw
why is that "dirty"? if they agree to submissions to begin with, it's a perfectly legitimate submission. and a very efficient one. hell, even Aikido has wristlocks :) (whether they practice them properly is another story)
Idk if I could take you but would still love the roll not sure what it is called when you only wrestle. Grapple???
start your kids in wrestling at 5/6 years old, around 12/13 start the BJJ training.... They will have a great base, and the BJJ scrambling they learn will translate to their middle school and high school wrestling careers very well!
Joplin, MO? I lived there for a couple years, our pastor lived in a big converted school.
Awesome and to funny 😂❤
This why they need to popularize wrestling and Sambo. Imagine wrestling,jiu-jitsu, and sambo mix together. Unstoppable grappling
I mean, depending on where you are I guess, wrestling is pretty damn popular. It's an Olympic sport. In the United States folkstyle wrestling is way more popular of a sport than Jiu-Jitsu.
Big man: wrist locking a minor.
Hahahahahahahahaha perfect.