I helped set up a JDM display last year that included a pristine FD, Mk IV Supra Turbo and R33 GT-R. I found a pristine 3000GT VR-4 at a car show but couldn’t find its owner. All the Z32s around here are clapped out or heavily modified, I think they were just a hair too popular for their own good and got seized upon by the 2 Fast 2 Furious crowd.
I actually consider it just a few years later (1999-2002). Toyota Supra and Mazda RX-7 were still in production in Japan. As well as the Honda S2000, NSX... Lancer Evo, Subaru WRX STi, R34, etc. .... ahhh the good years!
Plantinum age instead perhaps? (at least from a global perspective). The 80's would have been the golden age since offerings like the VR4 shown here, Honda NSX, and Nissan R33 GTR were not yet available.
If Mazda were to build more FD RX-7s today - with zero changes, except for price - they’d sell more in 1 year than they sold in all of North America from ‘93-‘95.
Literally the ugliest car of the group. But I guess you probably also drive a Miata, and to that limp wrist audience, I guess a small fem look is what you're going for.
+ravesilly I agree. I was in my 20's when these came out and the Supra was just a dream as for the possibility of ownership. A Corvette was around $38K at the time, even through it was long in the tooth it was still a prestige nameplate. It was a different league, but the Mustangs were the best buy then by far. I had new 90 GT ($13K) and a low mile SN95 Cobra ($14K) and I could easily afford those in high school and college.
+Vince L I was a bit younger, but another thing to consider is how few cars were priced over $40k in the mid-90s. You just about couldn't get an American car that expensive. A maxed out Corvette in '96 is close, and then the top Caddy and Lincoln. To compare these car prices to simple 2016 dollars doesn't tell the whole story. To bring up another point, in the 1983 film Risky Business, a 928 was the most expensive car for sell that year in the USA. Though they used one a little older in the film, think of it as Tom Cruise borrowing his dad's Veyron if there were a remake today.
Yeah, but only the disgusting riced, and overly modified ones. A stock, manual Supra RZ with low miles will cost you almost $90, 000. At least the price keeps them from being desecrated by tuners.
@@CutACrow my co worker has a gtr and they are known to be a reliable performance/sports car probably a reason why they still make them. The vr4 may be reliable for you but I think the gtr is more reliable
They were unreliable by owner forums standard and also weighed a lot more. None the less, wicked car and would buy one any day I could afford one. Any car that even gets compared to the GTR is obviously a jdm legend.
Unfortunately your predictions were right. The Japanese market has been sorely lacking since these 90s cars went out of production. Nostalgia aside, the 300ZX and RX-7 have got to be the most timeless designs to come out of Japan next to the NSX.
They were right... Just not good business. If only safety standards weren't so strict, the value of lightweight and moderate power could be good for business if you keep the cost of materials and production down. Unfortunately, that just doesn't happen anymore here in the states. The only remaining enthusiast car for 'bargain pricing' is the new MX-5 coming soon and Mazda achieved the safety standards somehow. Maybe the other JDM automakers will follow and start making fun and affordable performance without sacrificing reliability. This video truly does resonate with me and confirms my JDM biased even though I love all brands in a sense.
***** The NSX is the most exotic looking of the lot. Pictures don't show it though, the shape and size must be seen in person to realize how sexy it is.
Jgizzy -redacted- Could be. The only one out of these I've seen in person is the 300ZX. Its such a sexy looking car! I agree with you though. I'll have to see the NSX is person to really cast an opinion. I just can't get away from the fact that it is in some ways a Ferrari wannabe.
I have seen all 5 of them in person, up close. Actually, a red surpa turbo parked next my little mr2 2 weeks ago at a wegmans. Of all 5, granted I am a toyota guy, NSX wins, hands down. From afar, it looks a bit dull, but up close, you will appreciate the design, shape, and flow of the entire car.
Every period has it's good and bad. The 90's are over, and it's great sportscar from japanese brands are too. But even today, Japan has some very good cars for the sport enthousiast. The new Toyota Supra, the Subaru BRZ, The Subaru WRX Sti, The Nissan GTR, the Nissan 380z, the Lexus RCF, The Toyota GT86, the Suzuki Swift, the Daihatsu Copen, the Honda NSX and the Civic... they are all to sell now. In a world where SUV's are taking over the market, the japanese have some of the last mass market sportscars.
@@christop997 This information was already debunked and is false. Let's analyse. The chassis was developed between the two brands. But they parted ways before the project was totally finished. Meaning, each plattform will at least have 60% of original crafting on it. Then engine was first designed by BMW, then fine tuned and reliability improved in toyota factory Japan. So it's a 60/40 for BMW. The externals, a sensible points on BMW engine failures, are all Toyota on the Supra (water pump, cooling, and so on). The gearbox is bought by a reputable manufacturer, you have the same into a lot of performance vehicles nowaday. It's not a BMW gearbox at all. So you are actually complaining that the Supra isn't a Toyota because they use bolts, nuts and lugs that aren't all from Toyota. Do you understand how wrong it is ? And look at Subaru. Their flat fours are not really known for keen realiability, but when used in a Toyota drivetrain, they made instantly a very reliable engine. It's not coincidence, it's Toyota's way of doing things. It will be the same with the Supra.
You probably wouldn't like it. They are twitchy and spooky by modern day standards. Not say they don't handle well even by today's standards in stock form they just don't inspire confidence and very unforgiving at the limits.
All 4 cars look great today over 20 years later....they have those classic lines that new cars don't have as they are aggressive and alien/ugly looking!
Oh, I loved that Z. My father was good friends with a guy who owned a Nissan dealership and he gave me (at 18 years old) the keys to one for the day. R.I.P. Jim. Thanks for that day.
These cars still look great today and I'm glad to see many people feel the same. might just be me but I've always thought the last RX7 to be one of the most beautiful sports cars ever made, I'd do some weird shit for one of those! LOL!
+Tommy West It's an interesting car for many good reasons, but in the end, it might be to complicated to own, explaining why most of the time we have more BMW or Nissan fans
Same as supra. Remember those days, back in 90s when we dreamed about these cars, we didn't know shit about mclarens, aventadors and stuff, miss them so much
They all do! I miss that kind of design. Now it's all heavy leather and luxury everywhere...Also Ethan, we did know a little about McLaren after the F1 came out. :-)
I know right? Also remembered the first time I’ve learned Lambo diablo uses its eyes (headlights). 😄 Saw a clean pearl white in Tokyo a month ago, that Fairlady is simply stunning!
What's hilarious is in 1994 MotorWeek got 0-60 in 4.9 and 1/4m of 13.5@103mph. The second gen 1994-1999 VR-4s are faster stock to stock than all the cars in this test besides the Supra which only passes well after highly illegal speeds. I have a bone stock 1999 VR-4, I run consistent 13.2-13.4@102-104mph. I have a bone stock 1990 300ZX Twin turbo, it runs 13 8-14.0s@100-103mph. MotorTrend did a test in 1995 called Virtual Velocity where they tested all 4 cars and the C4 Vette. Look it up online. I remember these two cars results because I own both: *Nissan 300ZX TT* 13.9@102.0mph *Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4* 13.5@101.7mph People didn't know how to launch the Mitsu.
The z32 300zx tt was so beautiful back then. It makes the supra look like a shapeless, characterless blob. Also, Supra's interior looks industrial compared to the gorgeous curvecous interior of the z. No wonder the z was featured in car and driver's top 10 list seven yrs in a row from 90 to 96.
Brendan A. MacWade I'm thinking it must have had more to do with exchange rates. $45k in 1995 is basically $70k in 2015. That's nuts. I loved these cars, but there is no way I would pay that much for a modern version of any of them over a C7 Vette, Porsche, or Jag F-Type.
It's why they were never a sales success. America at the time, did not want to spend that much money on something with a Toyota or Mazda badge. The cars were fantastic, but camaros & mustangs were insanely cheaper and we're synonymous with performance. A insanely expensive Japanese car just wasn't
This was my favorite retro review yet (aside from the Saleen vid). Very impressed with the Mazda RX-7. Being under 3000lbs, it was able to spank the Supra and 3000GT in the quarter mile with less power and torque. I loved all of these but I would take the RX-7 home.
I got to flog a 93 rx7. Car was tight and quick, and felt like it was on rails. Much better than the Buick GN I was driving at the time, which only did straight lines
I was lucky to drive a 3000gt vr4 they are FAST AS HELL. When I sat in the back seat and my cousin drove it I was about to cry it was so dam fast and would pull us back it was unbelievable
Over 20 years now and these are still beautiful cars, and I still want one. Styling wise, these are probably some of the best looking cars ever made. Still head turners and pretty fast. I wish I could've afforded one back then.
Let me step back, my eyes just had an orgasm! This was one of the best videos of your throwback series yet. The 90's were the best decade for cars all around that we have had since the 60's. Those numbers today are pretty impressive and every one of those cars still look good and turn heads today on the road, and they are 20 years old! Great job MW!!!
@@rodmunch69 nothing impressive? It was a light chassis with a turbo, which a miata never had lol. It kept up with 300zx tt as well as 3000gt vr4, which is all tt.
@@jponz85 the fact you think a Miata is hot s--- says everything about you, and how limp your wrist is. Go back to cruising bath houses to find people impressed by your opinion.
@Noble Khan Again...with low to mid 13s and a high 12s ET STOCK for the 3000GT VR4, there's no way in hell a stock 300ZX TT can take on one of those beasts, especially a '94-'99 model. Luckily the Z is a better car. It may not be as fast on a track but it's insanely more fun to drive, and fast enough to get you into trouble. It also had a better interior and higher quality all around, and imo made the others look like shit. It took all the good things out of the others and made it into a balanced package - it had the tech and GT feel of the VR4, the sports car handling of the FD3, and just plain out handled the Supra. You seem to only be focused on straight lines, which isn't the Z's strong point. I guess it's not the slowest, it did tend to outrun the FD3 after awhile. You're also not getting the gearing advantage (6 speed, better ratios), HP and ESPECIALLY TQ advantage, nor the insane AWD launch advantage the VR4 has. I've seen stock 1G VR4s beat Vipers just because of the launch. By the time the Z is at 20mph gaining traction, the VR4 is already car lengths ahead and going 35-45mph. The Z gains back some of those car lengths from a dig, but nowhere near all of them - with 283 lb.ft of TQ for a 3400-3550 lb vehicle, it's just not enough. As I showed you, it's not even a fair comparison. That's why my other Z twin turbo, a 1995, is modded and puts down over 500@whp. That's the other thing I don't get about you - do you even realize that if both are fully modded the Z easily has the advantage? After BPU stage, the Z starts making gains that the VR4 has to work harder for and it costs more money. You don't talk about any of the Z's good traits. Running a 13.71@103.96, my best personal time in my stock 1991 ZTT, isn't impressive in 2019...my buisness partners best of 13.09@104.02 IS impressive for 2019. The Supra TT and VR4 are the only two of the four (and the Skyline series) that runs relevant numbers stock. The Supra hits mid 13s and traps 106-109mph, and the VR4 hits high 12s/low-low mid 13s stock. The Z32 and FD3 were always high 13s all day. If you can find a mag article of a stock Z32 running mid 13s I'd love to see it. You have to ask yourself a serious question now - do you want to look like a fool and keep lying and referring back to two MotorWeek videos when the VR4 beat those times in it's 1994 test and in every magazine comparison after 1994 the VR4 ran better numbers, it's UNDENIABLE. I suggest you take the high road and either walk away and not respond with your tail between your legs, your usual MO, or respond like a man. Your choice kid.
@hand registered ...but that's not a 2+2 in the video. Even then, a 2+2 would still be 3 inches SHORTER than a VR4. The 2+0 in this video is 11+ inches shorter. But hey, they didn't get the weight right either, so...
@hand registered it's probably because you did suggest that the vehicle in question was the ZX 2+2. When I heard John Goss say it was 10 inches longer I checked the video to see if it was the 2+2. It was the 2 seater which is easily identified by the fuel filler door being in front of the rear wheel and not behind it.
I'll never forget seeing and hearing a twin turbo supra back in 1997. I was in high school in my buddies 1995 Nissan 240sx when we came up behind that beauty. The supra driver floored it and it was the first time I ever heard a turbo which sounded like a damn vacuum cleaner. I was perplexed as to what made that sound until I became more educated on these type of cars. Coolest thing I experienced back in the good old days!
@@ahmedislam2580 Yeah, I'm thinking it should have been RWD as standard and AWD for the high performance version. Same with the Stealth. Where did Mitsubishi think they were going with a FWD chassis?
@@johndrake2729 I think this was normal for that time. some famous japanese cars had both awd and fwd versions just like the , toyota celica , honda integra, mitsubishi eclipse
@Motorweek...I love these retro reviews! They bring back fond memories of a great time in automotive history. Thank you so much for uploading them. Is there a retro review of my all time favorite car from that era? The Dodge Daytona. I have seen one on the 86 Daytona but I'd love to see one on the 87-93 models. please if there is one on the 87-93 Daytona will you post a link to it? Thanks and you guys are great! The most comprehensive reviews out there...
@@hellkitty1014 Add electronic controlled suspension (ecs) to that list. I have one with low miles and it is a joy to drive. Great ride, sound system, and love that rear spoiler come up at speed.
@@Pietro931 AWESOME! I've always said if Mitsu would've continued to invest properly in their brand with competitive SUVs and other vehicles, they would've had the ultimate JDM supercar, making the GT-R seem like a kit car. Their advancements in technology, power, and speed in the 90s was above reproach!(there are reasons why supercar makers like Ferrrari, Lambo, and Bugatti use Mitsubishi turbos and other electronics in their $500k-$2M cars).The 3000GT/Stealth STILL drive like modern cars. This is the same company that gave us the great Evo as well, so I know they must still have some passion in there somewhere!
Guns&Cars Double latch meaning like a hook and latch at each corner vs just in the middle of the hood. I believe that is what he meant. But regardless it still doesn't change the fact a tool or something is likely left under the hood. Double or single..it should still close the same way. Jmho
the 300zx still looks like sex on wheels....what a gorgeous ,timelss looking car..i never owned one but drove a few of the twin turbos when they were at dealerships..id granny out of the parking lots ,then goose the hell out of it for 20 mins of test ride..i used to do that with the supra turb o, the rx7 turbo ,mustangs ect then id come granny toodling back into dealer view... Good times!
I wish cars were like this these days. Nowadays, people only care about convenience, and having the car do all of the work. We need raw, unique sports cars like this again. By the way, I was born in 1996, the same year all of these specific cars were produced! :)
Even by today’s standards they represent an amazing menu to pick from Japan. This decade was a period of timeless, nostalgic designs. Besides these entree choices I would also take an Integra, Prelude, Celica, Eclispe, Civic Si, MR2, NSX, SC400, XT, Legend, CRX, SVX, and 240SX. Did I miss anything? The 80’s May have the music but the 90’s set the standard for the Japanese auto industry. If the Japanese needed a boost, bring back these cars! I would gladly partake. Why not, everything else is making a comeback.
I wanted a twin turbo 300ZX from the day it first came out. It is also one reason I dreamed about visiting Japan since I was 5 years old. Years later I read the May 1998 Issue of Sport Compact Car. The featured article was "How to get 450HP from a Twin Turbo Z." I saw a photo of the R34 prototype in the back of the magazine, and I would do almost anything to get one. The car just looked so perfect.
+Skyline Fever well, i got a great shape 1996 convertible z for $2500 three years ago. all it needed was a timing belt and new front seals and general maintenance. now here i am 3 years later with $7500 into it and it's better than new. 19" polished rims, 2din carbon fiber with amazing head unit, a few other upgrades and a NOS system that puts in a 100 HP shot! That's about 310 HP to the ground in this N/A car and it's solid as a rock, very fun and with the top up or down it is a CLASSIC look. I've wanted one of these since the 90's and now I got her. She's a beauty and she's kinda fun to work on what with the timing belt and parts and upgraded seats and upgraded ... well, other stuff ... I'll probably keep her forever. Back in 1995 I got a brand new RX-7 and she's still with me today. I dunno which one I like more. I love 'em both
I'm glad you have the car you always wanted. I think I would want to keep the 1995 RX-7 more because they are more rare. However, there is a huge advantage to the 300ZX. They tend to last longer than a turbocharged RX-7. I knew 2 people with turbocharged RX-7s, they both needed an engine rebuild after about 80,000 miles. However, they both said that driving an RX-7 was so enjoyable, that they felt engine rebuilding was worth it.
The 300zx is the only one in this line up to hold a WORLD RECORD!!!! Thats right. WORLD RECORD!!!!!! To this day the 300zx was the fasest in the EMBS class on the salts!!!!! 300zx is GODZILLA!
It really is a trip seeing these JDM icons. It's sasy to forget how slow cars were back then. There are trucks and SUV's that would give those cars a run today.
no i didnt, i gota finish at least 1 of my other projects before i get another lol, but unsure on the motor, turbos were shot and wouldnt crank, price was cheap so the guy knew what was up or at least knew that somethin was very wrong lol
Yup. I had a Golf Mk III in VWs dark green metallic back in the 90s ... and I got sick of the colour pretty quickly because every other current car on the road was painted like that. :)
gadgetsgalore I noticed that as well. It just looks like it wasn't closed on the driver side completely. My mom's old C5 vette used to do the same (annoying).
I remember reading in one of the car mags that they had to put duct tape over the gap at the leading edge of the hood on the Supra because it wanted to lift at high speed. Toyota. lol
Okay Motorweek, what's going on here with your test driver? In your last test of the '94 300GT VR4 (it was yellow with tan interior) you said the 0-60 time was 4.9 seconds. Now with this '96 model you say 0-60 was 5.7 seconds? Nearly a second slower on a newer model?
Chris Walker you are exactly right. The last VR-4 they tested went 0-60 in 4.9. Also, Dodge recorded several back to back 0-60 runs in 4.8-4.9seconds bone stock. Either the Motorweek driver of this particular episode had no clue how to launch an AWD car or that particular test car had a boost leak or an issue with the wastegates, who knows. Bottom line those numbers he got 0-60 and 1/4 mile were considerably slower than previous tests.
i drive mi dodge stealth in argentina so they are not gone ... they still got life and turning to classic in other countrys there are only 6 dodge stealth in argentina and only 60 3000gt ... and i always read that you say baad things about this car...here all love mi stealth and they wan to take pictures and ask questions XD and it cost 17/44 k depends of the version XD thats a lot of money here... and there are all in gret shape with less than 70k miles
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Imagine seeing a stock pristine Supra, RX-7, 3000 GT VR-4, and 300ZX all in one place today.
In the Philippines I've seen what you said
Got one in my attached garage. Triple black 91 2 seat 5 spd manual trans.
Which one? The Z32 or the 300GT? Because in 1991 the Supra was still an MA70 MK3 and the RX-7 was Still an FC…. Lol
I helped set up a JDM display last year that included a pristine FD, Mk IV Supra Turbo and R33 GT-R. I found a pristine 3000GT VR-4 at a car show but couldn’t find its owner. All the Z32s around here are clapped out or heavily modified, I think they were just a hair too popular for their own good and got seized upon by the 2 Fast 2 Furious crowd.
And the NSX
can I call this the golden age of Japanese sports cars?
+Joey Baby Simply the golden age of all automotive industry. Miss the times when such masterpieces were created.
+Joey Baby permission granted.
Absolutely
I actually consider it just a few years later (1999-2002). Toyota Supra and Mazda RX-7 were still in production in Japan. As well as the Honda S2000, NSX... Lancer Evo, Subaru WRX STi, R34, etc. .... ahhh the good years!
Plantinum age instead perhaps? (at least from a global perspective). The 80's would have been the golden age since offerings like the VR4 shown here, Honda NSX, and Nissan R33 GTR were not yet available.
imagine having all 4 of them in your garage
Keisuke Takahashi the 3000gt is the cheapest currently.
3000gts are dirt cheap for the moment
They're missing the R34 GTR, Honda NSX, Toyota MR2 SW20... I think thats about it...
OHHHH THE SUBIE SVX!!!!
I do. But I also play a lot of Gran Turismo haha
Rx-7 is simply one of the most beautifully styled cars of all time
Yep and with 99' spec parts will draw a lot of attention.
You're wrong. 96 honda civic carries that title.
Sheikh Basit lol
I agree!
If Mazda were to build more FD RX-7s today - with zero changes, except for price - they’d sell more in 1 year than they sold in all of North America from ‘93-‘95.
Man, that RX-7 still looks stunning.
The Corvette C5 looks almost the same.
basshead no it doesnt
@@DK-jd5tb They look pretty similar.
So's the rotary bill. ... Rotary engine was for airplanes.. and it didn't last much up there either... . .
Damn, couldn't afford it back then, couldn't afford it now. XD
You can get a VR4 for under 10k now, you can find a 300zx for probably under 7k. The RX7 and Supra though, have skyrocketed in price.
i wouldnt dare get that 300zx, hard to work with a cramped engine bay and parts are scarce as the vr4
Word i feel ya
Tell me about. I saw a supra with 70000 miles for $60000. That's crazy
Same 😭😭😭
The year is 2019 and the 26 year-old RX-7 design is still absolutely beautiful.
Literally the ugliest car of the group. But I guess you probably also drive a Miata, and to that limp wrist audience, I guess a small fem look is what you're going for.
Wow, Matt Farah wasn't kidding when he said the Supra was practically priced out of existence.
$49,000 in 95/96 is about $76-77,000 today
+ravesilly I agree. I was in my 20's when these came out and the Supra was just a dream as for the possibility of ownership. A Corvette was around $38K at the time, even through it was long in the tooth it was still a prestige nameplate. It was a different league, but the Mustangs were the best buy then by far. I had new 90 GT ($13K) and a low mile SN95 Cobra ($14K) and I could easily afford those in high school and college.
+Vince L I was a bit younger, but another thing to consider is how few cars were priced over $40k in the mid-90s. You just about couldn't get an American car that expensive. A maxed out Corvette in '96 is close, and then the top Caddy and Lincoln. To compare these car prices to simple 2016 dollars doesn't tell the whole story. To bring up another point, in the 1983 film Risky Business, a 928 was the most expensive car for sell that year in the USA. Though they used one a little older in the film, think of it as Tom Cruise borrowing his dad's Veyron if there were a remake today.
You can get them for around 30k now.
+Vince L Mitsubishi 3000Gt VR4 in 1996 was 70k The spyder
Yeah, but only the disgusting riced, and overly modified ones. A stock, manual Supra RZ with low miles will cost you almost $90, 000. At least the price keeps them from being desecrated by tuners.
Little did they know these cars would still be huge players in 2015.
William Grand Truth. And, aesthetically, they've aged like fine wine for the most part...
WeAreN1nja Agreed. Though I always preferred the dodge stealth over the Mitsubishi (yes I know they are the same car, I'm talking aesthetics)
William Grand Yes, these exact cars are. But they haven't exactly evolved and stuck around in new models...
William Grand Except, sadly that Mitsu is almost dead in America, and the Lancer Evolution is being discontinued by year's end.
+tom11zz884 This car should have put Mitsu on the map. They kinda play the role of Infiniti these days. Great performance bargains.
I drove the RX-7 when it came out and fell in love with it instantly. The handling was incredible and the design is timeless.
The 3000GT was very similar to the Nissan GTR of today..Big, powerful, turbo charged and a sophisticated AWD system that kept everything in place.
+tom11zz884 I'd say the R33 GT-R's are more similar to the GT-R of today. Since it was, ya know, a GT-R. That goes for R32's and R34's as well.
3000gt is and was way more unreliable than a gtr
@@ksfpubstar2 What makes you think that? As an owner of a VR4 I guarantee you they're not unreliable.
@@CutACrow my co worker has a gtr and they are known to be a reliable performance/sports car probably a reason why they still make them. The vr4 may be reliable for you but I think the gtr is more reliable
They were unreliable by owner forums standard and also weighed a lot more. None the less, wicked car and would buy one any day I could afford one. Any car that even gets compared to the GTR is obviously a jdm legend.
Unfortunately your predictions were right. The Japanese market has been sorely lacking since these 90s cars went out of production. Nostalgia aside, the 300ZX and RX-7 have got to be the most timeless designs to come out of Japan next to the NSX.
They were right... Just not good business. If only safety standards weren't so strict, the value of lightweight and moderate power could be good for business if you keep the cost of materials and production down. Unfortunately, that just doesn't happen anymore here in the states. The only remaining enthusiast car for 'bargain pricing' is the new MX-5 coming soon and Mazda achieved the safety standards somehow. Maybe the other JDM automakers will follow and start making fun and affordable performance without sacrificing reliability. This video truly does resonate with me and confirms my JDM biased even though I love all brands in a sense.
DNAManufacturing I don't think the NSX looks very good. Looks a bit dull. The 300ZX, RX7 and Supra on the other hand, they're beautiful even today!
***** The NSX is the most exotic looking of the lot. Pictures don't show it though, the shape and size must be seen in person to realize how sexy it is.
Jgizzy -redacted- Could be. The only one out of these I've seen in person is the 300ZX. Its such a sexy looking car! I agree with you though. I'll have to see the NSX is person to really cast an opinion. I just can't get away from the fact that it is in some ways a Ferrari wannabe.
I have seen all 5 of them in person, up close. Actually, a red surpa turbo parked next my little mr2 2 weeks ago at a wegmans. Of all 5, granted I am a toyota guy, NSX wins, hands down. From afar, it looks a bit dull, but up close, you will appreciate the design, shape, and flow of the entire car.
1990'S Jdm please come back! :(
The really ironic thing is that you'd need an early 80's car to travel back in time to the 90's. :P
Every period has it's good and bad. The 90's are over, and it's great sportscar from japanese brands are too.
But even today, Japan has some very good cars for the sport enthousiast. The new Toyota Supra, the Subaru BRZ, The Subaru WRX Sti, The Nissan GTR, the Nissan 380z, the Lexus RCF, The Toyota GT86, the Suzuki Swift, the Daihatsu Copen, the Honda NSX and the Civic... they are all to sell now. In a world where SUV's are taking over the market, the japanese have some of the last mass market sportscars.
If theyd do the "modern vintage styling" like mustang, challenger, and camero the sales would sky rocket.
The new supras a BMW. Not struck on subaru reliability either. Loads of recalls
@@christop997 This information was already debunked and is false.
Let's analyse.
The chassis was developed between the two brands. But they parted ways before the project was totally finished. Meaning, each plattform will at least have 60% of original crafting on it.
Then engine was first designed by BMW, then fine tuned and reliability improved in toyota factory Japan. So it's a 60/40 for BMW.
The externals, a sensible points on BMW engine failures, are all Toyota on the Supra (water pump, cooling, and so on).
The gearbox is bought by a reputable manufacturer, you have the same into a lot of performance vehicles nowaday. It's not a BMW gearbox at all.
So you are actually complaining that the Supra isn't a Toyota because they use bolts, nuts and lugs that aren't all from Toyota. Do you understand how wrong it is ?
And look at Subaru. Their flat fours are not really known for keen realiability, but when used in a Toyota drivetrain, they made instantly a very reliable engine. It's not coincidence, it's Toyota's way of doing things. It will be the same with the Supra.
I wish I could drive a brand spanking new RX7.
+Burt Sampson They are hard to find these days. If you do find one, they are pretty pricey.
Burt Sampson I own one and it's everything you think it is and more
You probably wouldn't like it. They are twitchy and spooky by modern day standards. Not say they don't handle well even by today's standards in stock form they just don't inspire confidence and very unforgiving at the limits.
GlassTopRX7 absolutely true ..but thats the point a car that if not respected can and will kill you
no you dont they are very hot modded is better
All 4 cars look great today over 20 years later....they have those classic lines that new cars don't have as they are aggressive and alien/ugly looking!
Oh, I loved that Z. My father was good friends with a guy who owned a Nissan dealership and he gave me (at 18 years old) the keys to one for the day. R.I.P. Jim. Thanks for that day.
3000 GT styling was very Blade Runner. love it
Love Mitsubishi
It is my favorite looking out of the group
@@2cool4fluoride same here, that ass looks sexy and the front looks looks determined
3000 GT VR4 was my go to in Gran Turismo. Hitting corners full throttle and not spinning out with that AWD.
All I want in life is a 1993 300zx tt manual in red...🔥🤤😭
I think the RX-7 FD is the best looking car ever built. But I'd still take the 300ZX because of reliability, luxury and practicality.
They all still look stunning.
These cars still look great today and I'm glad to see many people feel the same. might just be me but I've always thought the last RX7 to be one of the most beautiful sports cars ever made, I'd do some weird shit for one of those! LOL!
All 4 are beautiful...
+Tommy West The RX7 is the cleanest design, fluid and timeless !
+Tommy West The RX7 is the cleanest design, fluid and timeless !
+Roubert Marvin Sort of surprises me that more people aren't nuts over the RX7
+Tommy West It's an interesting car for many good reasons, but in the end, it might be to complicated to own, explaining why most of the time we have more BMW or Nissan fans
I would love to have the RX-7, so beautiful both inside & outside, especially in bright yellow!
Only the z made it to car and driver's top ten list 6 yrs in a row. Its styling has aged best too. Still a stunner.
Agreed! I'd still choose it over the 350Z & 370Z body styles.
Yeah, the Z is a pretty awesome car - along with the 3000GT. The other two are just femmy looking.
Nissan z still looks great today
Same as supra. Remember those days, back in 90s when we dreamed about these cars, we didn't know shit about mclarens, aventadors and stuff, miss them so much
They all do! I miss that kind of design. Now it's all heavy leather and luxury everywhere...Also Ethan, we did know a little about McLaren after the F1 came out. :-)
Joseph Rogers Timeless design by Nissan.
most 80's looking of the bunch...
I know right? Also remembered the first time I’ve learned Lambo diablo uses its eyes (headlights). 😄 Saw a clean pearl white in Tokyo a month ago, that Fairlady is simply stunning!
24 yrs later and these still look fantastic!
The Supra and 3000GT VR4 will, without a doubt, be two of the coolest looking cars ever in my book.
I love the supra but think the 3000 gt is ugly af but that's me
I love the Supra, but damn a 3000gt looks hella sexy it was a head of it’s time
What's hilarious is in 1994 MotorWeek got 0-60 in 4.9 and 1/4m of 13.5@103mph.
The second gen 1994-1999 VR-4s are faster stock to stock than all the cars in this test besides the Supra which only passes well after highly illegal speeds.
I have a bone stock 1999 VR-4, I run consistent 13.2-13.4@102-104mph. I have a bone stock 1990 300ZX Twin turbo, it runs 13 8-14.0s@100-103mph.
MotorTrend did a test in 1995 called Virtual Velocity where they tested all 4 cars and the C4 Vette. Look it up online. I remember these two cars results because I own both:
*Nissan 300ZX TT* 13.9@102.0mph
*Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4* 13.5@101.7mph
People didn't know how to launch the Mitsu.
post a video or two of those cars we wanna see them
All 4 went on to become legends
The z32 300zx tt was so beautiful back then. It makes the supra look like a shapeless, characterless blob. Also, Supra's interior looks industrial compared to the gorgeous curvecous interior of the z. No wonder the z was featured in car and driver's top 10 list seven yrs in a row from 90 to 96.
The 3000gt VR4 is severely underrated in todays market.
Swap the six for a V8, and it's a serious rival to a 928.
@@johndrake2729 it would be a very tight squeeze for an 8
@@Wik3dNuTS4k Ah.
@@johndrake2729 It is. The v6 barely fits in the bay.
John Drake have you seen a 3000gt engine bay?? No way in hell you could fit a v8 in there lmao
Just slap on a bigger turbo and you got 400-500 hp easy
I uses to see 300ZXs on the highway as a child. It was definitely the first one I remember really liking
Those prices were high 20 years ago. In 1994 dollars, those were new Porsche Cayman sticker prices. Amazing.
Brendan A. MacWade I remember that as well. Insanely expensive cars that weren't high volume sellers!
Brendan A. MacWade I'm thinking it must have had more to do with exchange rates. $45k in 1995 is basically $70k in 2015. That's nuts. I loved these cars, but there is no way I would pay that much for a modern version of any of them over a C7 Vette, Porsche, or Jag F-Type.
The RX-7 is the cheapest here at $37,800 which is $56,500 today. The Supra at $49,000 is $73,300 today. That's almost new Z06 money.
It's why they were never a sales success. America at the time, did not want to spend that much money on something with a Toyota or Mazda badge. The cars were fantastic, but camaros & mustangs were insanely cheaper and we're synonymous with performance. A insanely expensive Japanese car just wasn't
Camaro Z28 was about $20,000 in 1994, or $30,000 less than the Supra TT, and barely slower.
The good old days, they’re all brilliant cars, the 3000GT is my favourite thou
Really love the retro editing. Entertaining and informative!
This was my favorite retro review yet (aside from the Saleen vid). Very impressed with the Mazda RX-7. Being under 3000lbs, it was able to spank the Supra and 3000GT in the quarter mile with less power and torque. I loved all of these but I would take the RX-7 home.
Neos281 Represent the rotary!
I got to flog a 93 rx7. Car was tight and quick, and felt like it was on rails. Much better than the Buick GN I was driving at the time, which only did straight lines
And less engine size. 1.3 liters, less than half the size of the others
@Sergio Aguirre first person on planet earth that understands how displacement works on rotary engines.... Kudos!
And these 4 cars still hold there value
Sadly for the most of us, they do...
animal16365 Not the 3000gt vr4, or the 300zx.
BandomBeviews in a couple of years the Will have there value back
hoois cast I hope not
Then i couldn't buy one
haha i have the same, im looking for a 3000GT VR-4
The 3000GT was a badass design. The value is going up on them
I see you guys have been making great car vids for a long time. Love all the specs and comparisons
What a awesome video! Love the Japanese turbo 90' cars! P.S. Supra is my favourite.
I was lucky to drive a 3000gt vr4 they are FAST AS HELL. When I sat in the back seat and my cousin drove it I was about to cry it was so dam fast and would pull us back it was unbelievable
Over 20 years now and these are still beautiful cars, and I still want one. Styling wise, these are probably some of the best looking cars ever made. Still head turners and pretty fast. I wish I could've afforded one back then.
Let me step back, my eyes just had an orgasm! This was one of the best videos of your throwback series yet. The 90's were the best decade for cars all around that we have had since the 60's. Those numbers today are pretty impressive and every one of those cars still look good and turn heads today on the road, and they are 20 years old! Great job MW!!!
Proud to have owned a 300ZX and then a 3000GT in the 90's. Many great memories with those cars.
Rx-7 was such an amazing car, too bad the rx-8 never lived up to it's hype
@Justin Mayberry combined with the worse of everything you mentioned: rotary engine
It was a Miata hardtop, it wasn't anything impressive.
@@rodmunch69 nothing impressive? It was a light chassis with a turbo, which a miata never had lol. It kept up with 300zx tt as well as 3000gt vr4, which is all tt.
@@jponz85 the fact you think a Miata is hot s--- says everything about you, and how limp your wrist is. Go back to cruising bath houses to find people impressed by your opinion.
It's crazy how excellent these all are, then there's the NSX, which is on a whole different level. Crazy.
ahhhh, 80s and 90s babies muscle cars !!! If I could get my hands on a '96 3000GT VR4 in pearl white and a 98 Supra Turbo in blue..omg..
The original, and the slowest of the 4. Best balanced.
@Noble Khan Again...with low to mid 13s and a high 12s ET STOCK for the 3000GT VR4, there's no way in hell a stock 300ZX TT can take on one of those beasts, especially a '94-'99 model.
Luckily the Z is a better car. It may not be as fast on a track but it's insanely more fun to drive, and fast enough to get you into trouble. It also had a better interior and higher quality all around, and imo made the others look like shit. It took all the good things out of the others and made it into a balanced package - it had the tech and GT feel of the VR4, the sports car handling of the FD3, and just plain out handled the Supra. You seem to only be focused on straight lines, which isn't the Z's strong point. I guess it's not the slowest, it did tend to outrun the FD3 after awhile. You're also not getting the gearing advantage (6 speed, better ratios), HP and ESPECIALLY TQ advantage, nor the insane AWD launch advantage the VR4 has. I've seen stock 1G VR4s beat Vipers just because of the launch. By the time the Z is at 20mph gaining traction, the VR4 is already car lengths ahead and going 35-45mph. The Z gains back some of those car lengths from a dig, but nowhere near all of them - with 283 lb.ft of TQ for a 3400-3550 lb vehicle, it's just not enough.
As I showed you, it's not even a fair comparison. That's why my other Z twin turbo, a 1995, is modded and puts down over 500@whp.
That's the other thing I don't get about you - do you even realize that if both are fully modded the Z easily has the advantage? After BPU stage, the Z starts making gains that the VR4 has to work harder for and it costs more money. You don't talk about any of the Z's good traits. Running a 13.71@103.96, my best personal time in my stock 1991 ZTT, isn't impressive in 2019...my buisness partners best of 13.09@104.02 IS impressive for 2019. The Supra TT and VR4 are the only two of the four (and the Skyline series) that runs relevant numbers stock. The Supra hits mid 13s and traps 106-109mph, and the VR4 hits high 12s/low-low mid 13s stock. The Z32 and FD3 were always high 13s all day. If you can find a mag article of a stock Z32 running mid 13s I'd love to see it.
You have to ask yourself a serious question now - do you want to look like a fool and keep lying and referring back to two MotorWeek videos when the VR4 beat those times in it's 1994 test and in every magazine comparison after 1994 the VR4 ran better numbers, it's UNDENIABLE.
I suggest you take the high road and either walk away and not respond with your tail between your legs, your usual MO, or respond like a man. Your choice kid.
@Noble Khan What a surprise you won't respond. Gee i wonder why
@Noble Khan See, this is why you can't dispute anything. So stop arguing against facts.
@Noble Khan And it won ONE comparison test. Unfortunately, again, the VR4 beat that time two years prior, and it was a 96 Z which is the slowest one 🤔
@Noble Khan Also, as I said, i love the Z32. I don't get worked up just because the VR4 was faster stock, who cares.
The best 4 cars ever made right there.. They could start making the again exactly as they are and they would sell like hot cakes!
Ryan Hough exactly
Do hot cakes really sell the fastest?
LOL!
why are they telling me the 300zx is 10 inches longer than the vr4? its actually 10 inches shorter
Because John was Drunk durring the Video. thats true
@hand registered ...but that's not a 2+2 in the video. Even then, a 2+2 would still be 3 inches SHORTER than a VR4. The 2+0 in this video is 11+ inches shorter. But hey, they didn't get the weight right either, so...
@hand registered it's probably because you did suggest that the vehicle in question was the ZX 2+2. When I heard John Goss say it was 10 inches longer I checked the video to see if it was the 2+2. It was the 2 seater which is easily identified by the fuel filler door being in front of the rear wheel and not behind it.
I'll never forget seeing and hearing a twin turbo supra back in 1997. I was in high school in my buddies 1995 Nissan 240sx when we came up behind that beauty. The supra driver floored it and it was the first time I ever heard a turbo which sounded like a damn vacuum cleaner. I was perplexed as to what made that sound until I became more educated on these type of cars. Coolest thing I experienced back in the good old days!
I can’t stop watching this video every month.
Well I guess this is what old people says: They don't make 'em like this anymore.
I'm old.. Its true
3000gt is by far the most timeless car regarding its looks, absolutely beautiful looking
Yep. It should have had the RWD frame, like the Starion it supposedly replaced.
The first gen vr4 is such a beaut
@@johndrake2729 awd is better than rwd i think
@@ahmedislam2580 Yeah, I'm thinking it should have been RWD as standard and AWD for the high performance version. Same with the Stealth. Where did Mitsubishi think they were going with a FWD chassis?
@@johndrake2729 I think this was normal for that time. some famous japanese cars had both awd and fwd versions just like the , toyota celica , honda integra, mitsubishi eclipse
I still owning one
By far still a timeless classic GTO.
@Motorweek...I love these retro reviews! They bring back fond memories of a great time in automotive history. Thank you so much for uploading them. Is there a retro review of my all time favorite car from that era? The Dodge Daytona. I have seen one on the 86 Daytona but I'd love to see one on the 87-93 models. please if there is one on the 87-93 Daytona will you post a link to it? Thanks and you guys are great! The most comprehensive reviews out there...
The 3000GT VR4 was so ahead of it's time.
Very. Active aero, 4 wheel steer, sequential turbos(VERY little lag)...very techy for the day.
@@hellkitty1014 Add electronic controlled suspension (ecs) to that list. I have one with low miles and it is a joy to drive. Great ride, sound system, and love that rear spoiler come up at speed.
@@Pietro931 AWESOME! I've always said if Mitsu would've continued to invest properly in their brand with competitive SUVs and other vehicles, they would've had the ultimate JDM supercar, making the GT-R seem like a kit car. Their advancements in technology, power, and speed in the 90s was above reproach!(there are reasons why supercar makers like Ferrrari, Lambo, and Bugatti use Mitsubishi turbos and other electronics in their $500k-$2M cars).The 3000GT/Stealth STILL drive like modern cars. This is the same company that gave us the great Evo as well, so I know they must still have some passion in there somewhere!
@@hellkitty1014 agreed 100%.
Anyone else notice the driver side hood gap on the Supra?
+Guns&Cars Yeah.. Maybe someone closed the hood on a tool or something.
me too..I was gonna comment on that.
+Guns&Cars Supras have that double latch. They missed one, lol.
Rec Pro Are you serious or joking?
Guns&Cars Double latch meaning like a hook and latch at each corner vs just in the middle of the hood.
I believe that is what he meant.
But regardless it still doesn't change the fact a tool or something is likely left under the hood.
Double or single..it should still close the same way.
Jmho
I had the RX7, actually all three generations of the RX7 and an RX8. Nothing quite like them ever. Cheers
It’s 2021 and the Rx-7 still looks good. Timeless design.
Wish 3000gt was just as popular :( they were an epic car. well the gto
The 300zx is by far the best value for money of these cars.
@jasper426 only the SL Model are cheap but VR4 are so expensive.
@jasper426 might as well get a dirty one and I'll do the cleaning myself.
To whoever took the time to post these old videos.. Thank you!!!
Thanks for watching!
I have a 91 vr4 sitting in my garage. My brother bought it new. I haven't driven it in years.
i had owned 300ZX , Supra , and 3000GT VR4 and i must say 300ZX was the best of them ✌
thats because you never drove the 3rd gen RX-7, it would change your mind really quick
I work at the used car lot. I drove most of those cars and only own a supra. Most of All the 300zx now day, are in the junkyard and Some 3000gt.
Ben DC4L definitely
Plus the T-Top. I love mine too. Better than the Skyline too.
the 300zx still looks like sex on wheels....what a gorgeous ,timelss looking car..i never owned one but drove a few of the twin turbos when they were at dealerships..id granny out of the parking lots ,then goose the hell out of it for 20 mins of test ride..i used to do that with the supra turb o, the rx7 turbo ,mustangs ect then id come granny toodling back into dealer view... Good times!
@motorweek. Excellent reviews like always, and im so glad you gave these Japanese cars the respect they deserve.
I wish cars were like this these days. Nowadays, people only care about convenience, and having the car do all of the work. We need raw, unique sports cars like this again. By the way, I was born in 1996, the same year all of these specific cars were produced! :)
This is the cleanest car video I've ever seen!
Even by today’s standards they represent an amazing menu to pick from Japan. This decade was a period of timeless, nostalgic designs. Besides these entree choices I would also take an Integra, Prelude, Celica, Eclispe, Civic Si, MR2, NSX, SC400, XT, Legend, CRX, SVX, and 240SX. Did I miss anything? The 80’s May have the music but the 90’s set the standard for the Japanese auto industry. If the Japanese needed a boost, bring back these cars! I would gladly partake. Why not, everything else is making a comeback.
You missed the Miata but they still make it today so it doesn’t count.
Don’t forget the 90s includes MR2, Prelude, SVX, Celica All-Trac, Eclipse GST/GSX, Gallant VR4, Del Sol, Integra GSR, NSX, MX3, NX2000, 240SX, Impluse, etc.
s13, s14, s15, r32, r33, r34, pulsar, stegia, chaser, mark 2, cressida, Soarer, Aristo, forster sti, legacy gtb, Impreza sti (1-6), lancer Evo (1-6), Galant vr4.
I wanted a twin turbo 300ZX from the day it first came out. It is also one reason I dreamed about visiting Japan since I was 5 years old.
Years later I read the May 1998 Issue of Sport Compact Car. The featured article was "How to get 450HP from a Twin Turbo Z." I saw a photo of the R34 prototype in the back of the magazine, and I would do almost anything to get one. The car just looked so perfect.
+Skyline Fever well, i got a great shape 1996 convertible z for $2500 three years ago. all it needed was a timing belt and new front seals and general maintenance. now here i am 3 years later with $7500 into it and it's better than new. 19" polished rims, 2din carbon fiber with amazing head unit, a few other upgrades and a NOS system that puts in a 100 HP shot! That's about 310 HP to the ground in this N/A car and it's solid as a rock, very fun and with the top up or down it is a CLASSIC look. I've wanted one of these since the 90's and now I got her. She's a beauty and she's kinda fun to work on what with the timing belt and parts and upgraded seats and upgraded ... well, other stuff ... I'll probably keep her forever. Back in 1995 I got a brand new RX-7 and she's still with me today. I dunno which one I like more. I love 'em both
I'm glad you have the car you always wanted. I think I would want to keep the 1995 RX-7 more because they are more rare.
However, there is a huge advantage to the 300ZX. They tend to last longer than a turbocharged RX-7. I knew 2 people with turbocharged RX-7s, they both needed an engine rebuild after about 80,000 miles. However, they both said that driving an RX-7 was so enjoyable, that they felt engine rebuilding was worth it.
Best MotorWeek review ever!!!
The 300zx is the only one in this line up to hold a WORLD RECORD!!!! Thats right. WORLD RECORD!!!!!! To this day the 300zx was the fasest in the EMBS class on the salts!!!!! 300zx is GODZILLA!
I had this copy damn memories
soft spot 300zx
It really is a trip seeing these JDM icons. It's sasy to forget how slow cars were back then. There are trucks and SUV's that would give those cars a run today.
This was the peak of 90's sports cars and of MotorWeek
Mitsubishi 3000GT was underrated.
right now, near me theres a 3000gt vr4 with the 4 way steering for sale, guy only wants 2500 so some thins wrong but still, good price
Did you buy it?!
+ChronicConnoisseur Incredibly complex and parts are hard to come by. Mitsu just wasn't as bullet proof as the other Japanese makes.
no i didnt, i gota finish at least 1 of my other projects before i get another lol, but unsure on the motor, turbos were shot and wouldnt crank, price was cheap so the guy knew what was up or at least knew that somethin was very wrong lol
I love all 4 of these cars, they always got attention wherever they were.
rocket sled has to be one of the coolest car nicknames I've ever heard of
their predictions of doom were right
😢😢😢
I had a 300ZX in that awesome green. I guess dark green is as '90s as a car color gets.
Lol definitely . Instant nostalgia with a dark green
Yup. I had a Golf Mk III in VWs dark green metallic back in the 90s ... and I got sick of the colour pretty quickly because every other current car on the road was painted like that. :)
Damn those prices they were listed in the 90s are still pretty high in todays standards. Wow only the fortunate could own these beauties.
God those cars were awesome. I think the Dodge Stealth version of the Mitsubishi was nicer looking. Thanks for uploading these Retro reviews.
What's with the hood on the Supra. Huge gap on the drivers side.
Haha, I noticed the same thing!
gadgetsgalore I noticed that as well. It just looks like it wasn't closed on the driver side completely. My mom's old C5 vette used to do the same (annoying).
That happens to a lot of toyotas back in the day, especially on the driver's side.
I remember reading in one of the car mags that they had to put duct tape over the gap at the leading edge of the hood on the Supra because it wanted to lift at high speed. Toyota. lol
I noticed that also... Lol
The Supra´s bonnet is not closed properly.
Japanese 90's muscle car wars. Would love to have any one of those. Motorweek was wise to see their demise coming with this episode.
I have a twin turbo 300zx, i miss this years so much🥺
Crazy to think back then. Now the Nissan’s GT-R starts at 100k And you can get Chevy Camaro with 300 hp for a reasonable price
These cars were so underrated despite this video. I would've bought me at least 20 Supras and 10 Rx7s.
Ahhh the 90s! Best tine to own a car!
I'll take one of each please. This video is a gem, thanks!
still think the GT VR4 is the best looking one.
Okay Motorweek, what's going on here with your test driver? In your last test of the '94 300GT VR4 (it was yellow with tan interior) you said the 0-60 time was 4.9 seconds. Now with this '96 model you say 0-60 was 5.7 seconds? Nearly a second slower on a newer model?
Christopher Walker
The test drivers and the road.
A lot of the test drivers back then didn't know how to launch an AWD car.
Chris Walker you are exactly right. The last VR-4 they tested went 0-60 in 4.9. Also, Dodge recorded several back to back 0-60 runs in 4.8-4.9seconds bone stock. Either the Motorweek driver of this particular episode had no clue how to launch an AWD car or that particular test car had a boost leak or an issue with the wastegates, who knows. Bottom line those numbers he got 0-60 and 1/4 mile were considerably slower than previous tests.
@@Riskbreaker_Riot ahh, that makes sense. I didn't even consider that.
The starting price of the new Supra is the same as the old one! Pretty impressive!
This was like the Muscle Car era for Japan. So much performance just because they could do it.
Herbert Spencer coined Survival of the fittest not Darwin.
All of these cars are just awesome. Its too bad they are all gone... I'm glad they revived the Z cars at least though, I love my 350z. :)
i drive mi dodge stealth in argentina so they are not gone ... they still got life and turning to classic in other countrys there are only 6 dodge stealth in argentina and only 60 3000gt ... and i always read that you say baad things about this car...here all love mi stealth and they wan to take pictures and ask questions XD and it cost 17/44 k depends of the version XD thats a lot of money here... and there are all in gret shape with less than 70k miles
Z32 > Z33
these were my dream cars when i was a teen.
Just had my candy red 98 fd rebuilt completely , super glad to have one of these in my garage its better than driving a porsche !