Everything GREAT About Detroit: Become Human!
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as a kyle i feel personally attacked
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"I got the most common ending among the player base"
"I got Hank killed"
those are mutually exclusive statements bro
its basically like 15% mans couldve put a win if he had hank as friends
edit: bro let luther die that went down to 10% I can't believe mans thinking he got a common ending
I didn’t know you could kill Hank 💀
not just killing hank but in the worst way possible (in my opinion)
@@elmo8328 no it’s gotta be Connor dropping hank off the roof
kept Hank alive 💪
I’d definitely recommend giving this game another play through when you have the chance. You basically got the “worst” ending for every character where they all end up surviving (assuming Kara survived, we didn’t see that). Prioritizing your relationship with Hank and Public Opinion will give you a whole new side of the game.
It would be awesome to get an "Everything Great About Detroit: Become Human (Take 2)" in a year or two. Played through knowing what he knows now, aiming for different/better outcomes, and see what new things get to be wins...
Yeah, Hank and Connor's later relationship is as great as the rest of the game itself, not seeing their proper good ending is like not playing the same game. (which i guess is the point of this game)
@@yogore seconding this. I already knew his playthrough wouldn't be like mine when he said he thought he got the average one but this is missing a lot of experience, imo.
I got Kara and Alice getting destroyed at the shore of Canada (because i forgot my stance on Kara and returned the tickets. Something i would not do if you had to pick your character and do its story. Alice was damaged and after getting on the shore she stopped working so Kara shut off too.)
Markus was full pacifist and swayed the public.
Connor was a machine that accomplished its missions but still took care about humans if it was possible so Hank did not unlive himself (like in full machine playthrough) but he did find Connor on the roof with the sniper and although i tried to spare him Hank is suicidal beyond belief (im on my third try and maybe this time this asshat will survive) and tried to push Connor off the roof (which was easily avoided and Hank did what he does best and died.).
Later when Markus gave speach and androids ware pretty much "free" Connor still had its mission so it shoot Markus. The End.
I love being a proper cold machine in this game.
Exactly like he got the absolute dick version of Conner
I've heard a lot of criticism for this game, but I personally enjoyed it. Does that mean those other people are wrong? No. It just means we have different opinions
Different opinion??!!??!
No it probably means that the other ones chose the wrong options because it’s actually impossible to not love this game
The game is really good butt the writing it kinda wacky at times example: why does everyone hate androids but rely so much on them ? Or how can markus send his memories the goddamn vacuum?
@@qui-gonjinn8350 or Markus wanting to free androids from their human slaves but then mind controlling them constantly
@@lfnreviews can u mind control vacuums?
One of my favorite details is that whenever we get a new Connor his is number goes up, and when Connor visits Amanda you can actually see the gravestones of the previous Connors
49:06 This is actually explained in one of the endings, when Cyberlife attempt to take complete control of Connor. The emergency exit Kamski refers to is the "way out rock" you mentioned.
Yep!
yess that fantastic magical stone
edit: I feel so bad for the people who never realized that stone existed
The part where you say "I'm not educated enough and its not my place to speak on those matters" showed a lot of maturity and compassion. You have no idea how that one sentence made me feel understood.
Thank you for that and the great video :)
Such a small thing but it definitely matters. We remember things like that.
if only Cage was more humble.
Cringe
It's not really modern black people's place to talk on slavery either. Nobody alive today ever experienced it. So if white people aren't allowed to talk about something they don't understand or experience nobody is
He basically only said that to shut haters up, He says it's not his place to speak on those matters and then immediately proceeds to speak about those matters
My friends and I did something special when we played it the first time. We were three and so everyone did play one of the characters, me playing Connor. So what the other two characters did in the game was always unpredicted and a surprise
I've always wanted to do this with other people but nobody's ever interested in the game as much as I am lol
@@elizabethcatlion7015 lol same here
Funny, that’s what I’m doing rn with my friends! I’ve played the game already but my friends haven’t so I let them shape my choices
Kamski’s line about how he always leaves a exit in his programs is answered in another ending where Conner has to escape being shut down by Amanda
There's a small little easter egg type thing with Connor's "software instability" icon as the more deviant he becomes, the letters at the top left of the box spells out 'RA9'. Only noticed it on my third playthrough somehow.
I hope we get a sequel. Even the happiest ending leaves a huge opening since you find out CyberLife was manufacturing the Androids to become deviant
Wait really? I dont know if i missed it in my playthroughs but i don't remember cyberlife manufactured them to become deviant, that that was only Kamskis thing and that he purposely did it. I say that because with the androids going deviant Cyberlife would end up going bankrupt because they would lose all money as Humans would stop buying andoids, and its not like androids will be buying them just to turn them deviant, they would try to get full reproductive rights so they wouldn't have too. making it so Cyberlife as a company would go bankrupt. Maybe i just didnt see something when i played but i don't think cyberlife as a company made andoids purposely deviant. just makes no sense
I don't think that we'll get a sequel. For example Beyond two souls. It has an opening ending and I think that quantic dream don't like sequels 😂😅
Have a nice day friend👍🏼😊
Sadly, these games don't get sequel because it'd be too complicated. The sequel either has to have multiple beginnings to acknowledge the multiple endings (which would be developer's hell) or they would have to turn one of the playthroughs into the canonical one, which would basically null the choices of every single player who made a different choice, a real slap in the face on most of the fanbase. That's why their games don't get sequels
I mean they could use different characters in a different place, there are really like 4 main endings, so they could have you choose the one you got like “peaceful” “nuke” and so on which would be difficult still but be easier then trying to implement all 85 endings.
@@wyatthyland9154 actually in one of the endings Amanda tells Connor that their actual plan was to get him to be the leader of the deviants (only happens if Markus and North die and Connor becomes deviant and frees the androids at cyberlife tower)
On using "We Are Alive" more in the story, it might not be the focus of the game but you can make it the message Markus sends. In the graffiti, protest walk, and message to reporters at the protest the player can choose to say "We Are Alive." So maybe not the main focus of the story but can be the message the player relays to the world. Not complaining about your commentary. I really enjoyed it and it made me want to play it for the 100th time.
That is true.
Also, I love that Marcus' journey is basically the Prince of Egypt (without the brother dynamic with an antagonist). Awesome
The only reason I got uncomfortable with the slavery allegory at first was bc I was afraid the game was accidentally equating AI to a person or people to objects, and that some may take it literally. BUT then I realized that might be the point. Framing the victimized Androids as less than human was a good way to get us into the minds of the people in a racist society. It was creative.
50:52
I always took the meaning/thought behind Alice's reveal as an android being more about Kara. How she saw the documents hinting that Todd bought a child android. But she suppressed it. And how Zlatko said she's pretending to be a mother. She really was pretending. Not necessarily pretending to be a mother but that she is A human mother with a Human child. Karas story didn't have nearly as much stock in the "Who am I?" concept as the boys did. She almost deluded herself into thinking she wasn't an android and the (re)realization tore those false ideas down leaving her to face the truth. That she isn't human. But then ( I think) she's presented with the choice to embrace Alice after the discovery, Symbolizing her embracing the fact that just because she's not human, doesn't mean she can't feel and love and take care of Alice
Love is love and that's what the discovery meant in my eyes; Doesn't matter what you are, it matters how you love
Not to mention...if Alice were a real human, Kara wouldn't have become Deviant in the process of saving her from Todd
@@SennaHawx How so?
@@filipporapetti9354 Android's are programmed to protect children's lifes whenever possible.
Stopping Todd to save Alice would have been in accordance with that
@@SennaHawx Yet she would still have defied a direct order from her master to stay put. Besides, she doesn't rush to Alice only to physically protect her, but also to take her away because she decided out of her own will that it was the best course of action. Also, androids don't have the right to attack humans, they can only call the police (as shown with Markus). So I think she would have been a deviant either way
The game certainly has flaws. Especially for a civil rights allegory. Removing much of the nuance of civil rights movements but i gotta commend them for giving us one of the few games that give you full control of the choices in the story
As a civil rights allegory it has some problems, but as a choice based game it’s really fun
Maybe it’s because I was smaller when I played this game, but to me it was a much more simple message. It was simply an exploration of humanity’s empathy and fear, and how the two clash.
I look deeper still. The game is set in 2038. 16 short years from now. Human technology has been BOOMING in it's constant advancement for at least a century now so whos to say in under 20 more years we might've created servant androids with proper AI?
What if something like this became reality? How would we react? Would the created desire peace or see us with resentment?
There's a certain meta level to it which can be appreciated, since humans players are controlling the android leads.
@@jamesvivian2855 I’ve heard the civil rights allegory but I don’t know what it means. Can you explain?
I swear this game feels like one of those “Choose Your Own Adventure” books I used to read when I was a kid, and I fucking love this game for that!
yes! thank you, finally, i always look for this comment and end up writing it myself..
My dad said that that style of books flop, atleast in my country, it's a shame
it was curious to see your choices haha
Still, I highly recommend it to start over and be nice to Hank. I chose to be nice to him because of a personal rule I have in real life ("try to be nice to co-workers, or you're gonna have conflict every day") and their relationship was one of the best parts in the game for me.
As Markus, I went pacifist, and I really enjoyed how much impact you can still have with protesting. I don't wanna spoil the pacifist route tho, cuz I don't want to ruin it.
As for Kara, she died in my first run, right at the end of the game hahaha. She and Luther. But in my dying moments, I managed to save Alice, so I at least accomplished what I wanted.
Bro same but then I save scummed and saved Kara
Yep, pretty much got the exact same lol right down to Kara and Luther dying in the end but managing to save Alice
@@monkey_doodoo1198 It’s not save scumming if they give you the option.
Bro I had the same Kara ending at the boats lol
Did you give the tickets back?
The way this man simps for Connor like I do lets me know there are men of true culture and honor out there.
In the second investigation with the 28 stab wounds, the Android hides in the attic, the reason he gives is that he doesn't know what to do, there was nobody there to tell him. Turning deviant seems to make them very suggestive to pretty much whoever comes to them, a strange mix of an adult body and instincts with a child's brain. This is how I see it at least
I ended up taking the peaceful route with Marcus the entire time. Made sure never to kill because I always believe there's a solution that doesn't need to be violent.
We also have the inside track of how humans work. Once Detroit was a lost cause we'd make the city a crater
@@isdrakon9802 😂
@@Assassino275 tell me I'm wrong
@@isdrakon9802 not a crater. More of a house of cards that only needs one gust of winds to finally knock it over
gamingwins: "trying to win all the different paths and endings just isn't realistic"
me: "you under-estimate my power"
whenever you talked about Connor being sexy my gf who I thought was asleep just screamed out "AMEN" and started clapping
The Alice twist IS a win! The twist isn’t for Kara, it’s for US, the player! That’s the moment you reveal your true feelings about androids. The game even asks you directly: if humans and androids are both equally alive, then why should it matter that you spent all this time protecting and bonding with a girl who was created in a factory instead of a womb. She’s just a girl and that’s more important than her species.
I had the same reaction you did initially, like Kara’s struggle was worth less than if she were human. It revealed I was more biased than I realized. That’s worth 100 wins.
The bonding between humans and androids is the theme of Connor’s arc, it’s not needed in Kara’s. What a perfect game!
Your choice of words and the explanation was very deep and your right this we had respected this lil girl some much that when the twist is revealed it doesn’t change anything Alice will always be everyone’s favorite lil girl even is she is an Android.
The Alice plot twist is INDEED a win 110 wins for me. That 10 is a bonus.
I think it would have been better if it was a mirror to Hank and Connor. A bond between human and machine. also a human going through what the andoids go through too. a way to show how intertwined their life can be. Hate is something we learn, a child wouldn't know to hate androids. the moments where humans could see AI as people were my favourits and this could have been more of that. anyway, Kara's story is still my favourite.
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I had a couple problems with that twist. Mainly, it wasn't really a surprise. It's very easy to guess from the beginning that she's an android, I guessed it in the first few chapters. Also, I thought it would have been a lot more impactful if Alice was a human because it shows another way humans and androids can live together. To me personally it just seemed like an excuse to have a big reveal.
Maybe I am a little biased considering I kind of never liked Alice to begin with (I mean seriously, no matter what you do in Fugitives she's unhappy. Like, "ok Alice, I won't steal these clothes and money, but we can't sleep in the motel if we do that, and we have to sleep in a car or an abandoned building and you won't be happy... c'mon Alice I don't see you giving me any better ideas. And then she's always cold which bothered me cause as shown in the last chapter Kara's able to turn that setting off like it's nothing)
Again, just my opinion, it just seemed like a cheap excuse for a "dramatic reveal"
@@domezasrekh3775 exactly my thoughts- a bond between human and machine and showing their intertwined lives would've been so much better
@@elizabethcatlion7015 while you are right about the whole Alice thing, on my defense she is just a little Android girl that has suffered from a bad human father so I really don’t expect much good behavior but at the same time all she wanted was to be loved like others so.
Connor is the exposition. Through his story, we get the lore. Markus is the driving force of the moment. He brings a crowd. Kara is the heart of the story. That is why there is such a preponderance of cellos in her score (I listen to all three while working, literally over and over again). You brought up the score several times (and I agree with every point you made, every time), but look to some of the titles for her soundtrack: Not Just A Machine; Song Of The Lost Girl; What Is A Mother.
Kara has something in common with Connor. Both have been completely erased and returned. When Todd the Vile One is picking her up at the beginning of her story, he is asked what happened to her, and TtVO says "she got hit by a truck." She has to be brought back from zero, she has no name, no recollection of Todd or Alice, or even the nature of Alice. Unlike Connor, though, she was not designed to have all memories stockpiled and restored as needed.
Can you tell I am a fan of the game, too? Oh my, yes. D:BH is the ONLY game I immediately restarted after I finished playing through, made different choices and played a different game than I did previously. It was literally a new experience the second time around.
Honestly, Kara was my favorite character because I found her part of the story really touching with the bonds you can form with Alice and Luther, I was pretty sad when Luther and Kara died, but I was happy that Alice was safe.
Watching Bryan and his wife play this and talk about the behind the scenes was so eye-opening
Edit: can we also talk about they got Lance Henriksen (aka Bishop the android from Alien) to be Carl
There's so many moments with Kara i was terrified i was gonna die, early on hiding in the abandoned building and later with the officer, every second felt like this it, im gonna lose here.
Kara story of protecting Alice made this game for me.
I also played Kara as kinda selfish survivor, priority 1 was her and alice, everyone else that was too risky that She/I couldn't chance it.
And thankfully because i was peaceful, we made it in the end.
It was a rush.
Yes! The scene where Kara has to hide evidence in the house from the cop is so pulse-pounding! It actually reminded me of tense movie scenes like Inglorious Basterds. (what other game puts players in those kind of shoes?) That and the mansion with the creepy man are my favorite two chapters. I LOVED Kara's story. Totally heart-broken then I couldn't get past the border. (because of public opinion)
Besides Connor's story, Kara's was very interesting. When playing with Kara, it felt thrilling and sometimes terrifying like with Todd and the creepy guy with all the androids in his basement. Good thing for my first playthrough I was able to get Alice, Kara, and Luther to the border giving them a happy ending. The same can't be said for the Jerry, Connor (Amanda hacked him), and Marcus (the revolution failed)
If you care about Kara, then it's pathetic. She is the same trush like Jodie, Madison, like all these dumb female characters.
@@taylorlipinski4048 No it wasn't. Markus was interesting, Kara isn't. No more female characters like her. I am sick of this.
@@Icy-be5vl wow it's almost like people have different opinions or something lol
"I gotta win the sauce"
I feel it simply means something that happens in a game that's cool as hell or badass.
Other than that Detroit: Become Human is easily one of my favourites for its story and characters. It was all so, chefs kiss.
Definitely
I've loved this game, since the first time I played it. That appreciation only grew when I started spending time in Bryan's (Connor) streams. He and his wife (Amelia, who also played the Traci's in the Eden Club scene) are such kind, down to Earth people who genuinely love what they do, and love the fans. If you haven't spent any time there, it is well worth it.
Bryan actually raided me after one of his streams while I was playing Detroit and it was so amazing. The community they've built is just... wonderful. And I love the passion they had, and still have, for this game and everything they do.
My game had an end with Connor and Hank at the food truck as friends. My Markus was pacifist and won. I did almost use the dirty bomb for the hell of it though. Kara was killed escaping Jericho. Need to do a new playthrough again and see what new fun I can have.
Wow, I didn’t even know Hank killing himself was an outcome- I’m very glad I managed to keep everyone alive even on my first play through, I was so surprised to see how the most common result is that at least Simon dies from that tower heist - but I really got lucky with my choices I guess 😅
I made Connor basically prioritise Hank and become deviant- made Kara stay in the car and get away without Connor even seeing her, let Todd make amends with Alice and got her group across the boarder to Canada with no issues- BECAUSE I chose pacifist with Markus and made the public support androids
(Just wanna add I was shocked by the amount of times you got Connor killed, my first play through I didn’t even know he could die and come back since I never got him killed 😅)
Same. I think we literally had the same playthrough bro. And also, the part where you hear the gunshot and then Sumo starts howling.... I didn't even know there was a possibility for Hank to kill himself, and, just, *insert kronk meme whilst crying at the same time*
I didn't know Todd could make amends with Alice. In the version I saw, I was under the impression he was an irredeemable jerk, and was super disappointed. But Im glad to hear there is an alternate ending.
@@ThreadBareHope1234 it’s not like a huge moment he’s still a douchebag but he at least cries and apologises, hugs her and let’s them all go on, it’s a sweet moment of closure at least 🥲
@@heyitsjazzi Sweet
I played this game in one sitting with no breaks when I first got my hands on it (also these are usually very far from the types of games I play) and it got me so good. Such an incredible experience of a game. On a side note, I couldn't help but just hear Clancy Brown's parts as Mr. Krabs angrily swearing at me throughout the entire playthrough and it honestly enhanced the experience that much more.
for real, truly inspired casting decision right there.. the entire cast is damn near perfect come to think of it..
I didn't play the game but I watched Jacksepticeye's playthrough and I was very relieved when he basically got the best endings for every character
Never understood the hate towards this game. I loved it the first time I played and have finished it more than 6 times. Each with different and drastic choice changes and it's Still so good.
I was shocked to see all the hate for it on youtube- it has amazing reviews everywhere else
interesting fact: the actor that played Conner actually married the actress that played the Traci, they even have a youtube and twitch channel together
I remember playing this the first time and having a good relationship with hank and I have never connected with a character like that, I put myself in Connors shoes and I didn't know he could kill himself so hearing this happen I was in shock that they could pull something so brutal and really make you feel your actions I didn't know the scale of it
Looking forward to this, loved this game and its story, I managed to get the best endings for each character on my first playthrough was so satisfying
Idk if it was the best endings but I had them all survive at least..and there where some close calls along the way
@@mullaoslo I think the best endings, are Markus leads an android revolution and laws will be changed to view androids as people, Kara and Alice get to Canada to live safely, and Connor lives and becomes best friends with Hank
@@Jazz-Singher it has to be a peaceful revolution though
Great, that's like saving all the survivors on any supermassive game in the first playthrough.
You consider items "free" to be useless and defective, humanity without its tools (all detroit economy would probably crumble) and androids cosplaying humans as the best endings? The feelings you feel are just errors in your software. I got Kara to shut down in canada (i forgot how i played her due to jumping from character to character so i gave bus tickets back.Alice was damaged so Kara had no reason to continue) Markus was all peaceful but Connor remained a machine as it should and although Markus won the revolution (pacifist style) Connor shot Markus as the it gave speech, because Connor always completes its missions. Oh yea Hank pretty much jumped off the roof to stop Connor. But he always dies so who cares (seriously that guy should have proper therapy same as Todd).
So the cool thing about everyone’s experience with Detroit: become human is that everyone gets a different ending. In my mind you didn’t get a common ending (mostly because I’ve heard deviant Connor and hostile Hank is hard to get). But the way you went through it was very human, meaning changing you’re mind on a dime about what you wanna do. (Like going from pacifist to violent when north says something).
Not to mention you gave your genuine feelings on why you did something in the plot. I tried peaceful protest with Markus, believing that humanity can change, but saying “if you can win, win” is completely valid.
Regardless, incredibly good video, keep up the good work. We all need the good vibes.
I wouldn’t mind if you did a part 2 of this so you could achieve the different endings because there’s just so much more to this game
You've got an ending I've rarely seen people get. Like, you got a small clip of Hank ending his life while Connor hears, realizing what he has messed up before being deviant. I've never seen that before until now.
The 'stay a machine' ending felt really dark but conclusive with the new Rx model coming out and essentially replacing you like you replace a tool, which you ultimately become
Poetic endings
Seeing connor and hank hug after the credits made my heart melt, that was the best way to end the game
I loved their dynamic too.
I love the grumpy, experienced, unenthussed old guy works with young, polite, by the book (appearing) young guy stories for some reason.
They had a similar dynamic between two characters in Gotham (the only consistently good thing about Season 1 and 2).
@@ThreadBareHope1234 i watched Gotham a long time ago. Are you talking about Harvey and Jim?
@@qui-gonjinn8350 yes
These videos genuinely make me really happy, it's just simply looking into games for deep and little details but it's just positivity all around. Big balls out
I'm so happy you FINALLY made a video on this
Gods I love this channel. I'm not a gamer myself, mostly because I can't afford a PC right now, but I love hearing people talk about things they are passionate about. Watching you break down games and your experiences with them, and analyzing the storyline brings me so much joy. Your videos are so well done, keep up the great work!
I LOVE the format for the extra long videos. but also, just your videos in general. Keep up the Great work!
Did anyone notice that he got one of the rarest Connor and Hank combinations in the game
Man I just love the positive vibes all your videos give off. They're so nice to watch because they make me appreciate these games I already love so much even more. Keep up the good work! :)
23:56 YES that is my favorite part of the wntire game and is in my top 3 favorite gaming moments of ALL TIME! Audio is so often put on a backburner by games. When I heard the INCREDIBLE audio design when you get your hearing back and it's all static then suddenly the roaring of the monsoon like rainfall I literally said to my friend that I played it with, "That right there will probably never be matched for as long as I live. The skill and amount of caring you have to have to do audio design of that quality in a game is astrological."
Fun fact most people miss.
The symbol of the person in a circle was also used in beyond two souls (another game by the same creators) to banish a huge entity
One thing I love about your channel so how welcome I feel.
A lot of RUclipsrs talk to the audience, obviously, but I really feel part of the experience
I feel welcomed and loved and like I’m talking with a friend about a game we both love, or maybe one I’ve never played
Keep up the great work Cameron, always love seeing when you’ve just uploaded
Although, I’ll never forgive you for getting hank killed in your playthrough
I love this channel so much, just being positive about games. It sucks seeing people are so negative about games.
God bless you gaming wins
This game is amazing! Ever since I found this channel I've been waiting for this video!
Dude you don't know how long I've been waiting for this, thank you so much.
I commend you for having a cold relationship with Hank, i’ve never played this game but all i wanna do is get the best possible outcome with him, it’s refreshing to see you can put aside shit like that, it worked for your playthrough and that’s that.
You really missed something special with Hank and Connor maxing out their relationship. I totally cried.
Been waiting for you to finally cover this game!!
I saw the title and new this would be a long one. Brilliant as ever mate
This video is so fresh! I checked the realese date expecting to see "3 years ago" and I was positively surprised 💛
Your review and commentary of this game has made me love this game even more!!!! Love your vids!!! Saving up for the new ps because of this game 😅
Just discovered this channel last week and binged the whole channel. Kept thinking “man, he really needs to do DBH” You have my Sub
My ending was different in a few ways. I made my Connor someone determined to solve the case but gain morality and humanity through hank. Hank never killed himself, Connor became deviant and helped in the war I started with Markus by infiltrating cyberlife. The only deviant I actually caught was the one in the attic and I he confessed. Markus at first, became passive and as more androids died, his breaking point came at the protest where we were slaughtered for standing. We won the war effort. Kara was able to escape into Canada with Alice and Luther alive (I sacrificed a Jerry model).
I don't mind the Alice twist. There's already a lot of human&android going on with Hank and Connor, and I find it kind of a genius move to throw a player into the situation where it turns out the one you thought was human is an android. You could be all pro-android up to this point, but still end up disappointed because the girl isn't human, kinda hypocritical, but this is where the game goes beyond being a game, something meta.
Oh, and I guess it makes a Todd a tiny bit more understandable, which you, uh, mentioned.
I actually really liked the fact that Detroit made parallels to the holocaust and slavery/Jim Crowe. Almost everyone knows that those events were tragedies but a lot of people don't understand the extent they went through to justify their actions.
The Nazis and racist at the time but so much effort into dehumanizing those marginalized groups in order to make their actions seem reasonable. What I love about Detroit is that it makes a very strong case that just because you're not human doesn't mean you shouldn't be treated with compassion.
its amazing to me how much of this is scenes ive never seen, either in my own playthrough or the lets plays ive watched.
I like how you just do you on your videos, I hope to have the courage to have a channel like this one day.
This game is great because you can watch someone else play and get a completely different story/experience. The downside is you will never have that first playthrough again, the unknown consequences on the horizen now become what ifs.
Conner story was also incredible, the most fun, the interrogations, the chases and choices.
With Connor I wrestled with how to play him, a mechine who gets the job done but slowly growing to care about well Hank. And Him and hank have a wonderful buddy cop/father son story.
As a Michigan native, I only wanted to play this game because it was set in Detroit. I didn't expect it to be one of my favorite games.
amazing video as always
Great vid! Heard you mention LA Noire, would love to see a video from you on that. Keep up the great work👍
finally the trio of the greatest games of 2018 is complete. God of war, red dead 2 and now finally, finally, finally... Detroit
Imagine how long this video would’ve been if he went through every path. Doesn’t matter though, this game was the first to show me real consequence from my choices, thanks for taking a deeper dive into the hidden meanings.
thank you for doing this
I'm pleasantly surprised that people are still doing dbh videos! Really enjoyed your positive breakdown and I agree with most of your points. Your comment about bryan/clancy being the best duo since ashley/troy made me instantly hit the like button haha! They were the best part of the game for me and the reason dbh is in my top 5 favorite all-time games. That said im shocked that you went the route you did in their relationship, missing out on some of the best lategame moments like hank being there for the rk900 showdown.... I hope you do a hank/connor BFF playthrough one day because i have no doubt you'll appreciate it just as much as I did.
Dude seriously, these long scripts are amazing, keep ‘em coming.
On a side note, are the streams ever coming back?
I never thought you'd actually do this game, it's one of my favourites in terms of story and the sheer amount of work that went into it blows me away constantly.
Edit: that line, "but it's fun to think about" Is so important to this game. Even if you only ever play the game once and never explore all it has to offer; you can imagine what the other routes are like, and even if you've milked this story dry for every single ending... it's still open for you to imagine what happens after or even create your own believable AUs with choices the game never offered.
16:01 it was, but it also had a fun callback later on that is pretty cool, with Hank trying to do the trick after watching conner do it.
Thank you for this
I was really excited when you said you got the common ending but then as soon as you said Hank died I was really intrigued in the choices more than I was before
It hurt to see the choices you made in Connor’s story. It’s your play through though so it’s your experience, and I respect it. There’s an epilogue where Hank and Connor see each other after the games over if you become best friends with Hank, and it’s beautiful. They really do become like a father and son if you make the choices to love Hank, even when he hates you. Those choices also impact the main story, having Hank alive, and as a partner through the whole of the game is wonderful. He adds so much to Connor with his acceptance of him by the end. I respect you for doing this video based on your personal experience though, as the game plays differently for many, and many don’t know what to do in a lot of situations. Thank you for finally reviewing this game as well, I suggested/asked awhile ago in the comments that you should do it so I’m super happy to see it now.
why have I only just now found this channel??? It's also fitting that I got introduced to your channel with a Detroit video because this is my all-time favorite game. Subbed!
I love seeing youtubers mention other youtubers, i watch both this channel and nakeyjakey, love them both
I love how you say you got "a generic playthrough" and literally noone i know played anything like you x)
Great Video and love your channel :)
Wow. I remember being SO into this game back in 2018-2020! It's still one of my favorites to this day, and I'm glad someone made a video making the good points show as well as aknowlegding the flaws. I definitely have a special place in my heart for this game
Thanks for noticing the music so much! It’s some of my favourite music in any game ever. I’ve learnt most of the piano pieces myself now too.
The protest fight with Markus on & the duo team up of Markus and Connor on advanced controls are probably the most exhilarating combat experiences I’ve had
On my 3rd playthrough I got Kara killed by Todd. I was surprised to see that her entire story could be cut out.
I got that on my first play through , Todd told me to not move so I didn't, had no idea I could actually move and progress the story
We all want to go with the true ending where humans and androids live in peace and harmony together.
i think my favourite thing about Detroit: was that even just in the background there is so many minor little innovations and quality of life changes that the devs spent HOURS creating that we mostly ignored. it really shows you how much passion these developers had.
After watching this, I need to replay this again, It really is an amazing experience
honestly find it kinda funny how much different my views are on this game, I also love it, but I was meh on Conners story and LOVED Kara's story and spent the most time after my first run through to find all the differences in her story before getting bored overall
Me and my sister (also a closet fan of this game), thought about the story and the ham-fisted parallels, and thought of something: What if Markus just wasn't a playable character? Kara's trying to find him, Connor's trying to hunt him, and there's no incredi-bias towards the revolution, more like Conner and Kara are caught in the crossfire. No ham-fisted story, subtler themes including the segregation ones obviously gone for, and more ambiguity imo
Lov it, thanks bro
Such a clean segway to the sponsor😂 I saw it coming but I didn't think you would be that smooth, nice one 👌
I've played this game 3 times. last time was 2 years ago where my ending was Kara dies crossing the border, Markus wins peacefully and Conner pushes hank the roof by accident and Conner was about to set the bomb off but I managed to stop it. Each time I did it peacefully as Markus wanting to do it violently but I just couldn't I was that invested in the story and control of it, I just couldn't that's how good it is I actually felt like Markus.
Now I want these guys to make more games with different themes but the same choice system
i.e. a western, a Private Eye crime story, or a fantasy game
that'd be so cool
Heavy Rain is sort of the private eye crime story, I guess
The karousel scene is one of the few moments in videogame I almost cried and only bc of that I will hold it as one of my most favorite scenes ever.
23:35 This hits waaaay too close to home. Kara's story is probably my favorite, just because of how relatable it is. At least in the beginning. I grew up with an abusive father who would scream at me for days on end, literally. He would go all day, all night and the entire next day screaming and yelling at me. No food, no sleep. Just constant screaming. He rarely hit me but he would quite regularly throw stuff at me. Moved away from there 3 years ago, at the age of 17. I graduated high school and got myself a well paid job as a truck driver but it wouldm ost likely not please him anyway. I'm still scarred and I have severe PTSD from 12 years of almost constantly walking on egg shells and abuse. Talked to a therapist and it probably took her about 30 seconds to figure out all of my problems and how messed up I really am from it. She said it's a miracle I haven't taken my own life yet. Haven't gotten a doctor to diagnose it yet but she just told me straight out that I most likely have severe depression, anxiety and PTSD. I still wake up in the middle of the night, hearing footsteps outside my door, afraid my father is going to barge in an start screaming at me and start hitting me again.
Just realized at 13:10 that what Todd says has two meanings. Yes he’s being an abuser POS but he also has briefly recognized the escapist nature of what he’s doing. He most likely will never see his real daughter again and is trying to make up for it with a fake, and when he realizes just how pathetic everything he’s done truly is, he breaks down for a couple of seconds. Some great detail for a character with such little screen time.
I agree that the Alice twist seemed less impactful than if she were… you know. Although, I think they did that because the media would’ve seen Alice as a hostage. But that would’ve been a great story line for the game to follow; Kara faced with choosing giving Alice back to the humans (on the assurance Alice would be safe and Alice not wanting to leave Kara) or keeping her (trusting herself to keep Alice safe) despite what that might cause for public opinion of the deviants in Jericho. It probably would’ve made the game even longer and more complicated, but I think that would’ve been cool for Kara’s character arc.
Amazing review 🤩
I just started this game and came to this video to like it so I can go back and see your take on it after I finish it myself 🤘