DRAGON BALL SUPER: A Massive Review
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
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Dragon Ball Super is the series this channel was built on. It's a complicated and difficult series to review. One that was filled with so much turmoil, controversy and less than justifiable decisions. However there's still plenty to like within the runtime of this sequel to the original Dragon Ball story. So, here's my MASSIVE review for the story that started it all for me! Sit back, relax and enjoy as we join Goku, Vegeta, Gohan (sort of), Freeza, Black, Jiren and countless others through the wild and wonderful world of Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball Super!
Intro 0:00 - 1:04
Battle of Gods 1:05 - 14:41
Resurrection F 14:42 - 26:22
Universe 6 26:23 - 46:24
Goku Black 46:25 - 1:13:18
Universe Survival - 1:13:19 - 1:42:55
Tournament of Power 1:42:56 - 2:27:56
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I bet the funimation crew had a good laugh when they translated the “hold your fire, this man isn’t black” line 😂
lmao
Literally my favourite meme from dragon ball
I showed my friends that line and they thought that was from dbza
Hits different if you’re American
@@DaeronMaxedOut Honestly, same.
For all of Super's faults, after Ressurection F, any time Frieza is on screen it is just phenomenally fun. His boundless charisma just seeps into every scene.
sad they did not try do a G F Fusion
They really did him a favor and I liked him as a character and not because he is a badguy.
I would agree. I was against reviving Frieza but he honestly is a good addition
He's the only guy that makes sense in the entire series. He was the only guy in the tournament that actually had a strategy.
Also, Frieza is evolving his methods. He is training to get power so he can keep power. That is literally unprecedented in Dragon Ball where villains are introduced and thrown away.
I love the tractor joke so much. It's even funnier in the English dub IMO because Sean Schemmel adlibbed the "AaaAAAaaaAAAaiforgotmytractorAAAAAaaaAaAAaAAthathuuuuuuuurt" line, and I lost it at that line. I STILL smile at that joke to this day.
Essentially DBZA Goku right there
same bro
I knoe episode 30 is just a recap episode but the joke of it being implied that vegeta is the narrator is funny to me also
honestly it's such a Goku move
I'll never get over the fact that Beerus politely asked Buu for one cup of pudding and Buu just went full asshole on him for no reason
Well, just another example of Super only thinking about it’s (side-) characters as one-note, walking stereotypes
Well buu mind is equally to a 3 year old
yeah but buu showed he could be kind to people who are kind to him before lol
Buu _tries_ to be nice due to Mr. Satan’s influence, but he has lapses back into his toddler mindset from time to time. And he doesn’t have the intuition necessary to think that Beerus is anything other than a big, purple, talking cat.
@@KeDe1606 buu has always been like that its nothing to do with super
The spirit sword is such an anomoly to me. Like, they literally had the perfect explanation right there at the beginning of the arc. All they needed to do was say that while he was training for Buu with the Supreme Kai, he also trained with King Kai to learn his techniques as the Supreme Kai thought they'd come in handy against Babidi, Dabura, and Buu.
i think it's badass.
Or when trunks talked about how he stopped buu, goku could have shared how he defeated buu with a spirit bomb, explained the gist of it, and since trunks has never seen or performed the technique himself, the spirit sword is what he comes up with. Just any explanation would have been nice honestly lol
They could’ve saved the episode if they just gave the slightest hint that Goku trained Trunks in the past on how to use the spirit bomb and it pisses me off. It could’ve literally been a throw away line and the scene still wouldn’t be nearly as dumb as it is
They could've even tied it to some magic that was within the sword Tapion gave Trunks that granted him abilities after training/fighting for long enough with it. It's not that far removed a concept as the Z sword was supposed to do the same thing and everyone assumed it was legit meaning it is probably possible.
@@donnieconyers2829 Sure. It definitely is. But it came out of nowhere, which feels cheap.
If I recall correctly, the Battle of Gods film, in one hour, managed to foreshadow Videl being pregnant, while Super, in nine episodes, just brings it up out of the blue when it’s relevant
yeah dende was going to tell everyone but she told him to not say it
Yeah, Videl got grazed by something and was hurt, so Dende healed her. When he did this, he was able to sense another life within her.
Super episode 1 does it I think
Imo battle of the gods > than the show
Resurrection f < than the show.
Like it doesnt feel special at all. Battle of the gods has a reasion to be made. But rez f just seems stupid. Like they are trying to go for the nostalgia of the frezia arch but it just seems pointless.
It's essentially the beginning the cell saga but it takes a bit longer....
The show does a better job at it because it FEELS like it was made for anime. Like it makes sense. It isnt worth it to be a film.
@@mr.voidroy6869your ressuruction of f opinion sucks and i know where you live
I think the episode where Gohan invites Future Trunks to have dinner with his family is actually important. It reminds Future Trunks of how good life could be and just how much they've lost. It must also be emotionally difficult to see this other version of his beloved dead mentor living a full rich life.
I thought the same, it's a bitter sweet moment where he recognizes thay Gohan is finally able to live the life he always wanted and it's such a drastic difference from the Gohan that trained him that he almost doesn't even recognize him anymore
I wish we got more of future trunks and Gohan. Underrated duo
For people like Mark who tend to focus on power levels this isn't going to be that meaningful.
Filler is supposed to seem important but in the grand scheme there's no difference in the rest of the plot if that has ever happened. It just does and never matters again
I really like that episode
That shot of Bulma waving everybody goodbye when they're taking off to the ToP still makes me tear up.
He is either planning a huge project in the future or he is on a break. Either case I'm here and waiting for his return with new content
Think he said something in a previous review about wanting review Z finally.
no one cares
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@@dinogt8477 Says the guy who took the time to write this
@@dinogt8477 no one cares
I'm hoping this means a 3 hour DBZ review is next 👀
He'll probably do it in arcs like the others
Edit: He just tweeted about it and said he wants to make his DBZ review something special. So I'm guessing it'll be a 1 million subscriber video
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@hassan Zahid except for DBZ
Edit: I meant to say he hasn't reviewed DBZ yet so he won't do a compilation until after that
@@Ash_Wen-li DBZ isn’t a DBS arc
The replies make me LOL
An effective way to remove Buu from the story could have been the other gods sensing the divine ki of supreme kais inside of Buu during the exhibition match and saying unless he expells the kais from him he wont be allowed to participate. Goku would probably say sure why not, but Shin would remind Goku and the rest of us that if the grand kai is removed from Buu that it could reawaken the evil dormant inside of Buu, and possibly create another version of Kid Buu.
sadly that cant work with the info we got in the manga in the moro arc, but i dont wanna spoil it for anyone who hasnt read it, so i wont get into that. 👀
@@ronil2186at the time that would not have been an issue
Exaclty. It also would have been good foreshadowing for the next arc.
Toppo was allowed to participate, despite him training to be a God of Destruction and even unlocking Hakai energy during the tournament. Goku and Vegeta _are_ gods, and yet they’re fine to join in.
@@n0dash18 having godly Ki and being an actual God are different though.
You know, I kind of wonder if the whole zamasu arc was just meant to demonstrate that Zeno really is strong enough to erase all of reality.
Still trash tho💀
Lowkey the Zeno appearance at the end felt weird. Like yeah having Zeno as a buddy solved these problems, but doesn’t that kinda invalidate any future threat?
Not necessarily. You have to remember that zamasu infested the entire timeline and since zeno no longer had a multiverse to govern it would be fine to just annihilate it@@mnstrtrckkd
@@MarkelMathurin Yeah that's fucking stupid
Poor ending, zeno was just an out. He is a character of infinite power who has befriended Goku. That parts nice and is an ode to Goku's lovability. Then come the part " there is no way we win, but wait I have a friend with infinite power. I would've called him sooner"
Introduction of characters with massive power jumps isn't new to DB. But it was tasteful like a pinch of seasoning. Now it's just a gimmick to make gags like "look tiny man has infinite power so wacky. Oh look he befriends this guy even after being just a high ranking being.
Great review Mark!
I also always found hilarious that scene (17:39) where Vegeta fails to cook. In Italy that scene became a bit of a meme because Vegeta's VA, Gianluca Iacono, also voices Gordon Ramsay. It even got a hilarious montage by Iacono himself on his RUclips channel, where he mixed that scene with scenes from Ramsay's shows and redubbed them to make a gag where Gordon is humiliating Vegeta for his inability to make eggs, and I love it.
That's f***ing awesome!
Italian Yamcha is also in a bunch of low-budget, dollar store animations from Dingo Pictures/Midas Interactive, that seems like a country where it's real highs and lows being a voice actor.
llink?
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@@Alucard-A-La-CarteWorking on low budget products happens everywhere. If a network acquires the licence to distribute a product, someone will have to work on the localization, wether the product is good or not; a voice actor doesn't choose which roles to play, otherwise the directors don't call them anymore. You have to be a professional and do your job well according to the director's guide, even if you don't like it, especially if you don't like it to make sure you don't half-ass it. In facts, voice acting covers so many different products that it's pretty rare to work on something that you'd actually like, but that also depend on the personality of the individual (Christian Iansante, the voice of Rick of Rick & Morty and Rick of the Walking Dead and many others is notorious for hating almost everything he works on and he's not shy about it 😅 yet he always gives it his best).
Another example. Mario Cordova, Italian VA for He-Man back in the 80s, ended up voicing the narrator on the Teletubbies. He hated it, yet he did it for like 20 years. Because it was his job, even if you don't like it you have to do it.
Holy crap I'm glad someone FINALLY points out how Vegeto's outfit in the Goku Black arc made no sense considering he should be wearing a outfit that is the fusion of what both characters currently wear and Vegeta was wearing his full Saiyan armor and not just his under armor when they fused.
Or the fact that Goku died in Trunks timeline
@@johnathangonzales1245different timeline dumdum. That trunks was killed by cell
@@johnathangonzales1245 Lol, died to a virus hahaha, the only time we get any mention of death that is out of combat. No one else ever died from it ever again, a virus that took the life of a man that is basically a god amongst humans only did it to him hahaha.
@@johnathangonzales1245 that fact is irrelevant because the goku black body is from a third timeline
@@anima94 that still doesn’t make any sense cause that would have to be an alternative (3rd) trunks cause the original trunk that went back in time died to cell, then the other trunks(2nd) actually succeeded in killing cell and the androids. And in both those timelines Goku is still dead so how does this trunks have the memory of the second trunks if the second trunks already confirmed he’s dead in his timeline. The whole zamasu thing doesn’t make sense cause trunks timeline hadn’t ever met Goku. And the other zamasu was killed by beerus
Well done. Describing Gohan training for a day and seeing strong results, l wish you'd have used that line from Vegeta in DBZA. Semi-perfect Cell: "How? How did you get so strong!?" Vegeta: "I trained all day yesterday." SPC: "Oh, you think you're CUTE!?" V: "Bitch, I'm adorable."
A better explanation for Boo not taking part in the ToP, would be that he has the power of the Grand Supreme Kai inside of him. Would make sense because Kais couldnt take part, and also would be a huge foreshadowing for the Moro arc.
39:00 - Vegeta's stance is Ashita no Joe reference (Many anime specially shonen reference it alot). Its basically a counter move that baits an opponent to attack and hit them with a cross counter. Kinda like what Vegeta was planning. Heck the whole Hit fight very boxing/joe like.
Like dudley from sf3
@@k.i.l.l.a.c.a.m3531 cross counter ♥
i thought of bryan hawk when he made that stance
yeah mma fighters and boxers do that a lot, Conor McGregor is known to do stuff like that for example, Jon Jones as well but he uses his length even more to make it look like an illusion, Floyd Mayweather Jr as well. It's set up so that you have this sort of spring like stance in your step that is sort of visually hidden by your head being used as bait and being a big target your opponent has no choice but to pay attention to as soon as the opponent moves a muscle forward you launch your head backwards and out of their range, slip whatever they threw at you and counter it really really hard. Anytime you see a fighter standing with that head forward type of thing its always on purpose as bait, they are usually propped up on their front stance leg as well and put a little bend in the knee and use it as a spring to push themselves back more or less :)
@@justsomeguywithadogpicture2622 hawk is like if Joe didnt have a secret heart of gold tbf
Honest to god Majin Buu would be an immediate victory to universe 7 given how he can regenerate, heal people, stretch, and can even absorb people. No wonder they had to write him out, he's too good for a tournament like this.
Not really majin kayo was his counter part and jiren just blew him out of the ring
@@idealivangaming4307preeeetty sure there's a difference between slime and pink gum dust magic
Buu would have been so op in the tournament of power
The distinction is that Buu (especially Majin Buu) has been blasted away with things as normal as a strong kick. (See Kid Trunks' kick so he and Goten could save Vegeta before his final blast.) With flight being explicitly forbidden, this would make him a serious contender, but not an instant win. He'd have to play defensively to win.
They probably could have played into buu’s whimsical and silly nature as his main weakness, as he probably wouldn’t be taking the tournament and its rules as seriously as everyone else.
I must admit, I did not notice Goku reliving his fight with Grandpa Gohan while waiting for Freeza. Full tearing-up moment.
1:19:51 In Defense of Goku for the start of this arc, It is explained later that Zeno was planning on wiping out much of the multiverse for their low mortal count anyways. This tournament gave them a fighting chance to survive.
Plus the universes that were competing were already going to be erased before Goku said something about the tournament
Except that whole argument is retroactively rendered moot when 17 wishes back every universe Zeno erased, putting every universe right back in the position they were before the tournament... poised to be wiped out by Zeno. But because Toriyama is a hack, that will never be mentioned or brought up at all.
@@dylancross1039I believe it's implied though that the tournament was a test, and 17 made the right call. If the wish was something extremely selfish, he would have erased Universe 7 too, then started over
the fact still stands that goku didn’t know about that. and even if he didn’t know what zeno would do to the losing universes (erasing them) he ignored the others telling him that it’s a bad idea to remind zeno about things like that. so it was just dumb luck that he saved them all. alls well that ends well i guess
@jayreid2513 So... still lazy writing for the sake of a payoff.
To clarify, that nonsense sets it up so the ONLY possible winners that wouldn't wind up with every universe involved wiped out, would be Universe 7. This entirely Removes any possible tension, not just because you can tell from a country mile away the exact result the moment the Super Dragon Balls were mentioned as a reward, but because you know that none of the other universes except MAYBE 6 would have wished anyone back, and even then it would have been Universe 7 and not everyone. Again, a better writer would have done something not as contrived.
1:32:37
Goku: "How!? How did you get this strong?!"
Gohan: "I trained all day yesterday."
Goku: oh you think your being cute?
Gohan: Bitch I’m adorable.
@@dylanmoya2001 Imagine Goku in MUI while Gohan is in his beast form?
@@UnwantedGhost1that fight would be epic
@@UnwantedGhost1 beast deletes mui Goku. He needs at least TUI to stand a chance.
Goku: Forgets senzu beans.
Totallynotmark: could you imagine the goku who prepared for the androids making this mistake?
Goku who prepared for androids: Here bulma hold these senzu beans while we go into the city to fight androids that we cannot sense.
Lol 🤣
I mean when you put it like that… 😭😭😭
I thought it was mind boggling how Ginyu taking over Tagama's body was supposed to be any kind of threat, considering that him taking over Goku's body on Namek led to him not knowing how to utilize Goku's power properly so it essentially became useless. Now it suddenly doesn't work that way because of "shut up don't question it"?
he couldnt utilize gokus power because he didnt understand kioken, he still could use a third of gokus kioken x3 power. aka his base power
I know you wont read this but: Fun fact- when 17 blew himself up Zeno didnt push the "eliminated" button- its something that even back then scratched my head until the reveal that he is still alive and in the battle!
What I especially love about the ending: Earlier in the show, Whis commented on how Goku and Vegeta cant fight as a team since either one just fights individually and not reacting to each other. That made them fighting together very uncoordinated, which could confuse an enemy but still was no replacement for actual Teamwork.
And then at the end of the show, out of all those many characters this show has to offer, who is the one Goku can fight flawlessly with as a tag team?
Is it Vegeta, his eternal rival? Is it Krillin, his best friend? Or is it Gohan, his eldest son? No, its Frieza, his mortal enemy. He was the one Goku was more in sync with than anyone else.
I loved that.
That tractor grab Hercule punch though... I forgot about it until you mentioned it, and did a spit take over my laptop screen. That scene will never fail to crack me up, and I'm so glad I have a goldfish memory, so I can essentially reexperience it fresh every now and again.
I never thought of it, but seeing it again after a while I noticed that at 1:50:29 a non-beating heart is made start beating again by the use if an energy blast. Where did I see that before? Of course, in Dragonball Evolution where the "Kamehameha" (citation needed) is used for that very purpose. Thanks Toei, I really needed to be reminded of that movie.
That's because Akira Toriyama was actually so disgusted by Evolution that he made DBS in the first place... it's poetic, really
@@MariOmor1 Well, he made Battle of Gods which was a Z movie. Resurrection F was also a Z movie. He had little to do with Super.
15:16 I really love what Sean adds to that scene 😂
1:48:36 That moment with Vegeta feeling so much cringe or disgust that he couldn't even punch Ribrianne has to be one of the funniest moments in DBS to me, or even dragon ball in general. My ribs hurt after how much I laughed at that.
I love it too, he goes “FEEL THE WRATH OF THE PRINCE OF THE SAI… oh god what is that? i’m not touching that.”
Actually the technique Goku used on Roshi in the T.O.P. is basically the same as when Hit killed him when Goku hired him for his training. So it's not really out of nowhere.
Could also be a little nod toward the Cooler movie where Goku revived a dead bird.
giving people some of your energy is an established thing which is cooo
It’s also the same thing he did to Frieza on Namek, just resembling a defibrillator this time
Great review I never imagined Dragonballs story would be continuing this long after it started. One thing to note about the tournament is the Zenos kept making exceptions to the rules, as long as they thought it was cool they allowed it.
I imagine the power goku uses to revive roshi is just ki blasts to start his heart, same thing he did with the blast he revived himself with in his fight with hit
That or just a more advanced form of giving his energy to someone.
I always felt like a big part of Vegeta training Cabba was influenced by him learning that the Universe 6 Saiyans never destroyed their Sadala. There are more Saiyans out there, but also those Saiyans are incredibly vulnerable to the galaxy around them. He wants Cabba to go Super Saiyan, at least in part, to help make sure Sadala doesn't go the same way that Planet Vegeta did, especially after learning that Frost is just Freeza With A PR Department and also using the Saiyans.
Easily one of the best parts in Super.
vegeta the prince being a prince protecting his saiyan people
Just tell them to colonize other planets so it won't be a problem.
@@dansmith1661 Except any threat they run into that's capable of destroying their planet is capable of destroying many planets. In the world of Dragon Ball people with under 20k powerlevel can destroy entire worlds in seconds. And there's absolutely FTL travel, since Namek is all of six days away.
Which is, if you think about it, horrifying once DBZ devalues PL so much.
The series makes you empathize with Emperor Frieza.
The bullshit the Saiyan girls were pulling in their fight with Goku really makes you think Frieza had a pretty cut and dry point when it came to destroying planet Vegeta. Kale and Caulifla could've made a pretty good ally there, they could've fought Goku just to increase their power levels then give him a little of their Ki and ask him to ally with the promise of using his Dragon Ball wish to restrict their universe, but no they had to try and fight him at his weakest ever. A very Mary Sueish point in the whole tournament as well.
Yeah, this whole Saiyan nobility and warrior spirit is total bullshit. Goku should pull a Frieza on planet Sadala.
Cabba is basically Universe 6's Krillin. Honestly I wanted Cabba to have more of a part too and more of a story as well, but he was thrown into the cupboard and wasn't given anything. I guess the writers were more interested in giving Kale and Caulifla a story and being okay with Cabba very weak performance.
Maybe Vegeta feels exceptional to him because he's a second rate Saiyan just like him? lol
I would LOVE it if the next season has them going to Sadala and their King looks like Bardock
The gohan thing is an emotional payoff. Gohan in trunks' timeline was his best friend and master. His master was unceremoniously murdered in cold blood by the Androids. The man that trunks grew up with, the man that trained him. Seeing what gohan had become (the scholar, weak kid) was akin to how us the fans felt during the buu saga when gohan turned to his nerdy self. The payoff is trunks coming to understand that this gohan is what his gohan would have become as well should there have been peace. he sees this Gohan as an alternate to his own master and is happy that his master had a happy life and a future. It means a lot to trunks knowing what a person gohan in this timeline is. That "filler" episode of Gohan and Trunks spending the day together was an episode meant to show trunks' understanding of this side of Gohan. it wasn't filler imo.
Love this
Hmmm
I ain’t readin allat💀
Yeah, it also gives trunks another drive to keep fighting. Trunks has been in survival mode most of his life, and at this point he thinks everyone close to him is dead, and he is visibly distraught and grieving and it’s probably not clear to him why he should keep fighting (although he still would, it’s just that as he is at this point his spirit is badly damaged). Being with Gohan seemed to help heal his spirit though, and strengthen his resolve to fight.
Black isn't the Android timeline. This isn't the same Trunks.
I love that you referenced the "Kaio-what?!" joke. Made my friggin day.
I remember watching the first few Goku Black episodes and fooling myself into believing this was the level of quality we were gonna continue forward with...😭😥
I remember the final episode I was watching it in a Cafe with tons of people watching at the same time , the tag team with Goku and Freeza was the most hype thing in the world , and Freeza trying to take him with him was something to remember at his point everyone in the Cafe was chanting Freeza Freeza Freeza , I was smiling and having the time of my life at that point it made me forget every disappointing moment in Super really it was so powerful so good that I still remember to this day.
Freiza was the MVP. Dude had amazing character growth, and has shown hes not just a spoiled brat born with absurd power. He was the ruthless counter balance the universe 7 team needed. I really wish Majin Buu wouldve been able to participate, but lets be honest here, Buu wouldve clapped everyone. Hes immortal, super regeneration, and is the highest power level you can be outside of God-Ki. Only Toppo and Jiren would be able to handle buu.
Where the HELL do you watch a DB episode like a football game?🔥👀😂
@@OTG1776 Yes I want to know as well
@@OTG1776 when the final 2 episodes were airing, there were viewing parties all over the world, in stadiums, cafes, movie theaters...i personally watched it with my friends at a bar. It was amazing seeing how many dragon ball fans there are...and how old we were lmao.
@@xiphosmaniac that’s nuts! Don’t know how I completely missed it!☠️🤣😂🔥🔥🔥
When goku and friezas hand and foot "slip" was sooo good. U can feel the rivalry v the two in the air it's perfect
bringing back frieza was one of the best decisions this series made imo every second he's on screen is an absolute treat (rf saga aside) and is hands down my favorite dragon ball villain HE'S JUST A SILLY GUY
I 1000% agree with you about Episode 32 being amazing! When the show slows down the fights & explores a brand new fighter's unique, interesting & deadly way of fighting is just something I absolutely love about Dragonball! It's something the show does so well & it's on full display in Episode 32. It's just a crying shame that there aren't more moments like this in the show, although there ARE some. Hit is easily my favorite thing to come out of Super!
Mark is more consistent than toe itself
More consistent than toe?? Damn! Toes have been consistently allowing us to walk from place to place since the dawn of time! I didn't know a higher level of consistency could be achieved!
@@BrandonWhatTheF Why I find this so funny?
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Don't change "Toe" please, Mark IS more consistent than our ability to grip with our feet
@hassan Zahid Major “HIS A PSYCHOPATH WHO PAINTS FOR MONEY” vibes 🤣
I really love what the dub did to the Satan punch joke. With Goku going, "WHOAOAOA iforgotmytrackter WHOAOAOA"
nah they ruined it with that line
@@molnet999 what makes you think that? I think it adds to the scene rather then take away from anything.
@@chardude it spells the punchline out before the punchline arrives (the "punchline" being goku making an even worse job of pretending to be hit by getting his tractor), and tries to add to really a well-made joke, ruining the surprise, etc.
@@molnet999what surprise?
Honestly, one thing that REALLY bothered me throughout the entire show was the complete lack of any body damage while fighting. Yes... I get that things have been toned WAY down since the earlier DB/DBZ days, but not even red marks?? They can't even so much as use red scratches or bruises, & maybe just a LITTLE blood? I mean c'mon man, there is such a thing as going from one extreme to the other, and in my humble opinion it really hurts the action!
The damage clearly taken by the heroes adds tension & weight to each fight, & when a character is supposed to be losing but looks exactly the same as they did at the beginning... the fights lose something emotionally speaking. I really, really hated this. Has Japan really gotten THIS cautious with it's kids these days? Hell, we have far, FARRRRRR worse bloody content on prime time TV these days. Is a tiny bit of unrealistic cartoon blood going to scar children for life? Of course not. That would be an absurd notion to say the least.
That's exactly why i can't watch or enjoy Super at all, if the slice of life or narrative is bad, atleast i can rely on some bloody and tense fights right?.....nope
7:03 Fun fact, the darkness that was instilled in the souls of millions by Goku's dead eyes in this frame will one day birth a universe-ending evil that only the Z Fighters can defeat.
That downward, overhead punch that Gohan does to the Namekian will always so damn savage
1:48:53
"Later we see Gohan eliminate China's President..."
This is such a layered gem hidden in this feature-film length review
Well, Oolong is literally a communist pig 😅
He said it earlier in the universe 6 tournament arc too
It ain't that deep
"Goku opts to fight first against this xi jinping looking mf" when goku goes to fight botamo in universe 6
That's not even the first time he made the joke dawg
Frieza: behold my new form
Me: cooler did it
Frieza: what?
Me: the 5th form thing
I love dragon ball super tbh , it wasn’t perfect , but it was way better than GT
Frieza's recruitment is one of my favorite episodes of the whole series. The dialogue between Goku and Frieza is snappy and witty, the voice acting is great, and both characters actually feel like themselves while having a more evolved relationship. Instead of just hatred and the desire to stop each other, their relationship has evolved to an almost respect for each other, yet still a strong dislike. Great episode
The freaking romantic subtext when they’re punching each other and going “oops my hand slipped” is so entertaining
2:00:39 I feel like the thing people don't appreciate about this ending is that its a badass thing that DOESNT at all contradict any existing rules of energy attacks. Beams can already clash, and we've never seen two beams in this context (that being an unfired attack vs a launched one), so it is just using the existing rules in an interesting and unique way.
One thing I love about Vegeta turning Blue against Cabba is seeing Goku, who is using that moment to watch gauge Hit's reaction. He could tell Hit was the most dangerous on their side and stared him down with that signature smirk. It's a small but enjoyable moment for me, I love that ark
Dude what a review! I’ve never seen a review such as this one. Bravo 🎉🎉🎉 this was fantastic
"Everyone, good luck. We're counting on you" I still cry hearing this and watching the older episodes.
When Roshi goes down and Krillin is screaming from the bench "Goku, please!!", that really got me. And Goku calling Roshi "master" after all these years.
I cried
I kinda agree with you, the Goku Black arc never really did that much for me. I don't get the hype. Cool concept, not so cool implementation. As for the ending, I'm totally fine with it being a loss at the end, I'm totally fine with that timeline getting fucked, but the fact that they don't treat it with the emotional weight it deserves is the only thing that really bothers me about it.
Have you read the manga version of Goku Black? It is SO much better than the anime's by a mile and 1/2! Binged both of them around the same time recently and absolutely hated the anime, but loved the manga way more than I was expecting.
I agree with the ending not getting what it deserved. I was watching through the series a second time when it suddenly hit me how horrible and traumatic is was. Like, EVERYONE died. Everyone. And Trunks and Mai just disappear into another timeline like "the people we protected will be safe there" when like, no...the people you protected are dead. Trunks even has that whole talk with little Trunks about how their experiences make them different people. In this new timeline none of those people had to be protected. They aren't the same.
If anything Goku saved the multiverse with the tournament because Zeno was thinking of reducing the number of universes.
I loved Gokus “UWAAAAAAAAA……UHHHHAAAAAAAAAA” when Hercule punched him, absolute gold.
Better is the dub where goku says " I forgot my tractor ahhhh"
Unpopular opinion: Vegeta vs Mageta is one of my favorite fights in the series. It’s creative, got some incredible moments for Vegeta as a character, and showcases a entertaining and funny character in Mageta.
Finally somebody agrees, Mageta was always such a underrated character, he was such a unique character with such a unique fighting style, I kinda wish he had more time in the TOP with a rematch against Vegeta where he trains to not be so easy to break by insults so he fights much longer than what he did in the universe 6 v 7 saga
I love when DB does those "gimmicky" style fights. It's actually one of the things I believe Super does a lot better than DBZ. In DBZ, almost every fight is solely decided by who has a higher power level, but in Super, the gimmicky style fights utilize a degree of strategy such as Gohan vs Lavender, Vegeta vs Magetta, Goku and Vegeta vs Trio de danger, etc
@@jantheking7028 Gimmicky is always great, especially those World Tournament days, Tien vs Goku were some of the best fights, because the Crane School was unique, they had telekinesis, they had flight, they had the +2 hands and x4 body things that made it really interesting. Then all these nice things became obsolete because Crane school became obsolete.
Okay did anyone notice when Frieza comes to help 17 they splice their music themes together?? It was my favorite music moment in the whole series!
1:19:46 Zen-Oh was going to erase the low mortal level universes anyway. Goku gave everyone a fighting chance.
It starts super weak, but ends super strong. That to me is a good summery of this anime. It was INCREDIBLY rocky and messy, but at the end of the day I'm genuinely glad it exists.
Facts
Dunno about the manga, but tournament of power was one of the worst arcs in the entire shows history.
@@famalam943 In your opinion.
@@kin4386 *correct opinion ;)
Drawn out with no substance, stakes that don’t matter (did we honestly believe all existence would end?) overly expositional on purpose for the sake of dragging it out a ill conceived story where 1 episode’s worth of story/content was shamelessly dragged out over 5, endless punching isn’t a story, obviously made up as they went along with no clue what they were doing. Very obviously they only had enough story to last a month or two but they stretched it to over 6 because they had no plans post ToP… (the entire saga was over 8 months) I could go on.
You might enjoy it and more power to you, but it was objectively terrible by any standards of storytelling & media. It was shit.
@@famalam943 Most of that could be applied to most arcs in Dragon Ball to be honest lmao
Hey mark, Be wary of the sponsor you chose, there's a huge chance it's a scam, there was a video on the company heading the production for them
Yes, kamikoto is a scam.
He doesn't care as long as he gets paid
@@shelsilverstein7436 I can't blame him
I mean if Mark was a cooking channel I would understand him not doing the sponsor because it would be his specialty.. but he does anime, so can't really fault him if he gets paid for it.. it's when a cooking channel promotes kamikoto knifes, that's when I get kinda upset because at that point they should know, hey these aren't as good as they should be for this price point.
Also the fact that his audience is filled with children and teens. Who wouldn’t find it useful
I didn't know Goku was reliving the match against Grandpa Gohan in that one scene and now for some reason my eyes are really wet.
The spirit sword could have been tied so it felt foreshadowed.
First off, Trunks is wielding the Z sword, the same one Gohan held in the prime timeline, that he should have used against boo. Make a Kai state that's an ability of the sword and the genkidama was derived by other Kais in a similar fashion
I noticed Vegetas stance was weird too, but I realized he's likely applying Whiz's advice that he's too tense and, seeing Hit as unrefined at first, is choosing a pose that will force him to work on his weaknesses as a fighter.
Whiz 💀
@@lostsauce911My favorite Death Battle Z commentators, Whiz and Beerstick.
My favourite scene in all of DBS was the Mr. Satan punching Goku one. Even the clip in your video still made me giggle.
Ngl I lost it at 48:37, that was the LAST thing I was expecting to hear 🤣🤣
You can have my sub bro, great video I agree with majority of your points...still don't know how Trunks was able to even be in the realm of power of Goku Black or Goku/Vegeta in blue
Why did I watch this whole video bruh I’m not even mad cause you did so well man and you made me like super even more than I did before, you made me understand every character and how they felt and the uncanny similarities between everyone within the series thanks 🤙🏾🖤
The Goku Black arc deserved so much better.
Holy shit that ending and those god awful comedic moments need to go!
(Although I did love the idea of Goku Black not even being aware of how his power works. It added both to his madness and the fact he was losing control.)
went down hill after it became a body snatcher story instead of it being a What If
@@creatorsfreedom6734 The Goten theory would've been so much more interesting
@@nothanksfools what I was the synopsis for that ?
The ending was never bad
Goku black wasnt enough for him and so he went to others universes and made vegeta black, trunk black, gohan black, goten black, pan black. Sorry but i aint trying to be races because here comes black freiza lol.
The relaxed stance that Vegeta takes against hit is him trying to "loosen up" because Whis says he's too tense when he fights. The stance is part of training.
From a physics perspective, jumping off of falling rocks technically could give you enough force to get back to the ring. The amount of force needed to push off a rock that small would be well within DB Super levels.
Wow I didn't notice the Goku vs Gohan reenactment when I watched it. That really is a sweet moment. Goku is remembering his lost loved one in the most Goku way possible: reliving a fight with them.
I was literally looking for something to watch while doing therapy by grinding a game and this bad boy dropped as I was refreshing RUclips. Your videos are always bangers so this is gonna be a treat.
Which game?
Skins grind?
You want the best series to therapy grind? The Ys series!
Me too bro
Just wanna say Mark, the way you contextualize and point out the subtle aspects of certain moments in all the series’ you review- especially dragon ball, have made my and many other’s experiences all the more rich and meaningful. Thank you man.
Great video. Really enjoyed this in-depth review!
Back here rewatching while waiting for your Majin Buu video ;) Love your Dragonball content dude
When Vegeta fights Hit he takes an expert level fight stance known as 'leading with your chin' originally developed by Sokka in ATLA who knew these universes were shared.
Can't knock him out if he's just built different
You know what would have been a long throw-back in the Goku Black arc? Using the micro band that Bulma created way back in Dragon Ball to fit more people into the time machine.
I'm just impressed that they managed yo contain themselves on the power creep. I expected half the characters to be stronger than the destroyers by series end. I'm so proud that past the Granola arc, it is still that way.
they just made inconsistancies and just went:”b-but he trained” “he was holding back!” through the whole deal. it wasn’t that impressive
Bro this review is amazing, thanks for this video!
Doctor:Bowl cut and shaved Mark won't hurt you
Bowl cut and shaved Mark: 15:26
All the "kazoo" moments (plus the part where Goku Black suddenly talks like a Peanuts adult) are some of my favorite bits he's ever done.
I like how you have a character still based on that one frame from episode 5.
I just started sending that image to all my friends for like… 2 weeks
Frieza and 17 being the last two with goku in the tournament is probably also unintentionally the line up that had a goal of just killing goku and now they are working togetherwith goku
The way you explained the final episode is so perfect. People who didn't understand cause they care for action(not a bad thing) can understand it better.
Even for someone like me who doesn't care as much about action Mark often puts things in a way that gives weight to things I didn't understand. I fully agree that the way he explains things is usually either perfect, or at least perfect from the perspective he talks about it in
@@leetfukk facts. He has awesome content.
i didnt even know people didnt like the last episode. it was godly, and a beautiful way to end it. It set up SO MUCH for future content.
Mr Satan punching goku is the most hilarious thing I’ve ever watched
2:00:50 "I quite literally didn't expect it in the slightest"
Neither did Kefla.
I disagree with you on episode 52, because it shows an important development in trunks. You have to imagine what trunks’ life has been like up to that point. He has been in doomsday after doomsday scenario, seeing everyone he loves die over time, with very small periods of peace throughout. He has had very few moments in his life where he feels like he’s safe (if any), and is constantly in survival mode. The idea of being in a house with a normal family just having their slice-of-life moments is something he’s likely never had the luxury to ponder. When he arrives, he’s still in that survival mentality, unable to relax and feeling like he is just wasting his time. By the end though, he finds that there’s great joy in these little moments that can only exist in peaceful times, and trunks thinks “thank you, Gohan, for reminding me what I’m fighting for”. This implies that trunks may have been struggling to think of why he should keep fighting. This is even more understandable when you consider that every person close to him is now dead in his timeline. If you were in that position, and most of your memories were simply Armageddon-like nightmares, it might be difficult to see the light that would keep you moving. This little trip to Gohan’s helped him see what the world could be, and helped drive him back to the fight.
The last episodes of super are so amazing and all of the themes are so damn good that i shed tears every time i re-watch all of the best moments...
the last 20 episodes being sooo good makes up for the first 20 being so boring
@@logan7805it definitely doesn't make up
@@DAFAKK152 it does
@@DAFAKK152 It does depending on your opinion
To me it only peaks in the last episode
Kale and Caulifla are supposed to be part of the Japanese "girls love" trope where they believe that 2 girls are the best of friends and their relationship emulates that of a boyfriend and girlfriend even though they are plutonicly friends from my understanding
So it's like a bromance but with girls?
@@katherine6326 basically yeah
Ugh, that is the absolute worst. Having two girls “pretend” to love each other so they can practice for a “real” relationship with a guy is just a ridiculous and insulting thing to teach.
@@emblemblade9245 emulating relationships with friends reduces chances of divorce regardless of orientation for both men and women, like the comment above says the girls love trope is literally just the woman version of a bromamce, it's just those situations that get a special name
My favorite part of the punch me away Mr Satan, in the English dub Goku says "ahhhh oh I forgot my tractor ahhh"
1:29:01 when the gohan theme started playing brought me back man I haven't heard that theme in forever
I remember seeing Super, checking out the RUclipsrs and someone talking about Goku recreating his fight with his grandpa. I didn't realize either, so I immediately went to watch it again and cried like a baby.
The Dub version of 15:10 is 1000% so much better in this one instance hahah "ohh i forgot my tractor" hahahah
Question: has anyone anywhere done an analysis of the Universe Survival / Tournament of Power arc that touches on the other universes' roles as send-ups of different anime genres, and especially Zen-Oh as a stand-in for the audience/fans?
That edit with Mark next to Krillin and Tien coughing was really good
I had never seen Super, but was familiar with the stories when I found your channel. Your passion for all things Dragon Ball is what finally pushed me to watch Super. When I saw this video uploaded last night, I knew I had to finish it before I watched, and as soon as credits rolled on 131, I came here to watch this. Thank you for sharing your love with us, Mark. This is as a fantastic video.
as someone who waited each week for the next episode that contained 20 minutes of talking and 2 minutes of fighting, i feel like it would be a much better experience binge watching....did you enjoy it?
@@xiphosmaniac absolutely. From start to finish it was awesome. I’m surprised it took time this long to actually watch it.
@@carternoble6469 nice, its better that way. as a whole it was awesome and i cant wait for the series to continue. i just hope they dont keep my boy goku dumb....
@@xiphosmaniac I know I'm late but I agree with you but can I ask, who should you care if Goku was a dumbass, it's not a plot point, it doesn't serve any relevance to his character, if it was removed, nothing changes
@@koffibentum7452 idk it was just kind of over the top when he was surprised to learn what a kiss is when he has 2 kids, amongst other things. But youre right, it doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things since hes always been a dense boi
And yes I'm watching this entire review. I love how you rereleased these reviews as one. Giving me something to do while I'm stuck in the hospital
I wish you best recovery. God bless you, your loved ones and the whole world.
Amen.
Thank you friend! May all the kaioshin and destroyers bless me with goof fortune; and may zeno erase my problems! Much love friend
Also just noticed your greek name. Love to see another proud member of humanities WARRIOR RACE!
good hentai material
2:14:05 the thing for me that i love about before vegeta told goku to get back up and defeat jiren is when Vegeta was telling the clown god ,that's dick riding jiren, that his race, no matter what, will break their limits no matter what and they all seen it first hands with the other Saiyans in the tournament that got me even more hype for goku tbh because we all knew he was gonna surpassed it
I thought the explanation for vegito defusing in the buu saga was bc something about buss body made them defuse but I guess a time limit makes more sense.