Hand Plane 刨子 - Traditional Chinese Woodworking Tool
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- 中国传统木工木匠的刨子。In this video I show you how to make a traditional Chinese woodworking hand plane. This is the first in a planned 7 video-series focusing on Chinese woodworking tools that are both traditional and different from European and English tools. Project 28.
Checkout the links below where I show you how to make a variety of traditional Chinese woodworking tools.
How to make 7 traditional Chinese woodworking Tools:
1. Chinese hand plane 刨子 ( • Hand Plane 刨子 - Tradit... )
2. Chinese frame saw 锯 ( • Frame Saw 中国锯 - Tradit... )
3. Chinese dovetail Plane 燕尾刨 ( • Adjustable Sliding Dov... )
4. Chinese Knife Saw 刀锯 ( • Knife Saw 刀锯 - Traditi... )
5. Chinese cutting gauge 勒刀子 ( • Cutting Gauge 勒刀子 - Tr... )
6. Chinese bevel gauge 活尺 ( • Bevel Gauge 活尺 - Tradi... )
7. Chinese styled half moon marking gauge 线勒子 ( • Half Moon Marking Gaug... )
7b. Offset plate for easy layout of mortise and tenon ( • Offset Plate - Angled ... )
7c. Foolproof Angled mortise and tenon with the half moon Chinese marking gauge and Offset Plate ( • Foolproof Angled Morti... )
Chinese woodworking hand plane free plans:
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Reference Video:
Traditional Chinese Hand Plane by master Xing Quian Sheng (幸全生)
1of3 • 【传统手工木工教学--工具制作】手工刨子制作第一集
2of3 • 【传统手工木工教学--工具制作】手工刨子制作第二集
3of3 • 【传统手工木工教学--工具制作】手工刨子制作第三集
The Chinese handplane is different from it's European counter part is the way that it is held. The Chinese plane can be used in many hand positions; such as one handed, pushed, pulled, w/ or w/o the hand.
The next planned Chinese woodworking project is a frame saw. The Chinese frame saw is very similar to the German (European) framesaw in the way they look. There are subttle differences in the design that makes their use very different.
Thank you for watching, I hope you enjoy it. Let me know if you have any questions.
John Z Zhu
@polywright
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I’d love to know what it is about videos like these that anyone couldn’t like? A guy sharing his knowledge, for free, really what’s not to like?
Never be surprise at how entitled, ungrateful, un-self-aware some people are.
My grandpa got his first plane when he was 15 and it looked like a smaller version of this. He is now 68 and still uses that plane to this day.
That is by far the coolest tool I've every seen anybody make. Great design and as always you did a fantastic job making it. Thanks!
Thanks JP. I wanted to share with the English speaking wood working world something we could enjoy.
Your videos have gotten better and better. I don't watch RUclips much anymore, but that was the most interesting video I've watched in a long time. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks SA. I try to keep evolving my channel, keep the good, get rid of the bad. I like to think of it as the "Belichick-Zhu" way.
Thanks for posting these videos, I am very interested in Chinese woodworking and the tools used. Is good to see, as there just is not much information out there about these tools and techniques. Keep up the good work, I cannot wait to see what projects you are working on next!
I liked this video and your doing the work! Outstanding, John!
Looks a very detailed build, hats off. Look forward to the next in series.
Thanks Francis. Have a dovetail plane finished, and frame saw almost finished. Editing is another story.
I'm not being able to speak, read or write chinese, so this is video + the extra links are super helpful. I've only been able to come across scant information on chinese woodworking tools in video form, the rest coming from my peeking around at what's sold on ebay and aliexpress (mostly mujingfang and knockoffs of their tools).
Looking forwards to the other 7 parts!
Well I think you're going to be in for a treat then. The cross bar plane's sold on ebay, aliexpress, or many American stores are poorly designed, most of the handles are too loose. I looked into buying those but decided against because they just look bad. Mujinfang types are mass produced for several different brand, I wouldn't waist time with those.
I wanted to do this series of traditional Chinese woodworking tools precisely because there is so little of it in video or text form. But the Chinese woodworking history is as rich as it gets. It's like picking gold nuggets off the ground.
The one thing I can't fault the mass-produced ones on is that at least they don't cheap out on the blade material. I got one of the tiny cheapo no-name block planes out of curiosity and was honestly surprised by it. The plane body itself is obviously mass-produced (wedge didn't fit properly out of the box, mouth is way too wide, some tearout around the pin) but the blade surprised me with how well it takes and holds an edge.
I know what you mean. I found all my Chinese made blades to be harder than Western "name" brands and easier to sharpen too. I think some people overlook the functionality of high carbon blades and try to make a blade that suits the typical Western "woodworker;" who like to collect tools and pose with but may never sharpen one.
Just found your channel looking for how to build Chinese wood planes. Well done on this video. I am very interested in Chinese woodworking tools. Thank you for this channel. I look forward to watching more of your content.
Welcome aboard.
It looks amazing and works so well, what a brilliant project and great to compare tools from different regions.
Thanks TA. I agree, it's always good to gain a better understanding of different people's methods and tools; if only to improve our own techniques.
Awesome craftsmanship. I'm really looking forward to the rest of the series!
Thanks FA. I am trying to get the saw vid up this weekend.
Beautifully done. The result looks amazing
Thanks for making these and sharing. I didn't know that Chinese and Japanese planes worked differently until very recently (I thought all Asian planes were pulled, thought of Japanese woodworking as pretty much the same as all Asian traditions, etc.) I recently got to listen to someone who studied specifically chinese joinery and case making, and I love to learn more about Chinese woodworking.
You're welcome. It is a common myth that Japanese woodworking dominate Asian woodworking. The woodworking media perpetuates this myth through willful ignorance or deliberate actions. If you trace tool characteristics, the hypothetical order goes Chinese -> Korean -> Japanese.
Does it makes a difference though? looks to me you can use it either way @@johnzzhu
@@johnzzhuYes, can't agree more. Japanese likes to take Chinese traditional wood work, Chinese mediciene, Chinese Kung fu, Chinese garden and claim it as theirs LOL. The wood working promot that maybe Japan listen and do what the west told them to, but not the Chinese. My view.
Beautiful results, looking forward to seeing more of these
Thank you.
Thank you for the lesson and demonstration very interesting
That is beautiful work! You make it look so simple.
手藝不錯，這個大小的推刨正好屬於二虎頭。
多谢。 差不多像二虎。
Really cool! One day I'll get the confidence to make my own planes... would really like to give it a shot..
Thanks. There is never going to be guaranteed success, so might as well try it now to establish a baseline.
Turned out really nice John! I like the shape and look of the wedge
Thanks Joe. It's a pretty classic Chinese look.
John Zhu ALWAYS BRO! And yea it definitely is..love hand made planes
Reminds me of snake teeth somehow
Wow! The final pictures say a lot, looks great to me. Never understood the handle till this video.
Thanks. Glad it was able to help.
Excellent looking plane!
Thanks Sec. K. Glad you found time while managing the WH to come and watch my videos.
Oh... two more things... you don’t have to tap the wedge so much if it’s in place already. Just tap the back of the blade. Also a smaller hammer helps for better fine tuning. Again thank you so much for sharing. I always enjoy your videos. You make them real and not so rehearsed and perfect. You let people know that not every thing goes perfectly and that most mistakes are with patience, fixable.
Thanks BC. The hammer works fine for fine tuning for me. I've watched the Chinese master tap his planes and he uses a regular hammer. I think there is a lot of myths and mystic around woodworking that are a waste of money and time. For example, the myth that all planes should take a fine 0.1mm shaving.
John Zhu you’re most right... I’m probably just too aggressive... :(
I really like your channel, inspiring is the word that comes to mind.
Thanks Eric. I try to keep my viewers thinking beyond the typical.
Fine work John! I always look forward to you next vid....
Thanks Tom. Hope to get it up soon, after Thanksgiving.
Beautiful plane. Thanks.
You're welcome.
真好，很地道！支持你做更多关于中国木工工具的视频
多谢，最少还有6个工具，有可能造 8，9个。
Thank you!!!! Please keep these coming; I like them very much!!!
You're come. I plan 2 more in the next few weeks.
I looked into buying a plane similar to this from China. I have an Iron, I've downloaded your plan, I have plenty of wood and with the help of your video, I will have one of these by the end of the winter. I will use Maple for the body and Apple for the sole. Thank you John :) ॐ
Good to hear. FYI you don't need a chip breaker, if you didn't already know. I'd suggest a more stable wood then maple, they tend to swell and deform more than for example oak.
Thank you John :) I understand about no chip breaker :) I have a good few old wooden planes without chip breakers. I will dig out some Oak instead. Just another quick question :) Would you recommend Red or White Oak?
Very good and nice invention I like it
I don't know if there is some similar Chinese tool (I got here specifically because I wanted to learn about traditional Chinese woodworking tools), but after using the axe for rough shaping you can refine the shape further with a drawknive, before switching to rasps and sandpaper.
There probably are Chinese drawknifes, though I've not encountered them. In the country side, they would probably use a Chinese scythe.
Merci John pour ce partage. Rabot très intéressant.
you're welcome. glad you like it.
Hi John - A beautiful plane!!!!!!!!!!! I was surprised that you didn't use a clamping caul with such a thin sole capping. Even though you used many clamps the surface area of the clamps is very small. A caul would spread the clamping pressure and you would not need so many clamps. As long as you chose a slightly softer wood for the caul you will achieve perfect clamping and gluing. You have however inspired me to make some planes and I have quite a lot of Bubinga. Do you think that would be a good choice or would you just use it as a sole capping? Great video!!!
This is pretty cool. You have an interesting collection and a new subscriber 😊
Nice hand plane sir...
Good video
Hey John,
Thank you so much!
As a Chinese guy, I want to do more woodworking with Chinese planes. Mujingfang no longer has this type of plane available in the US. HNT Gordon is good but pricy.
I may buy some excellent white steel Japanese blades and make some planes like yours!
Well done John!! Nice job
Thanks Mik.
well done
It kind of reminds me of a wooden Dutch shoe.... But it does look cool, I like it
Thanks. It's only natural that tools to looks like body parts that serve similar function.
做得漂亮！
The Woodworkers of China and Japan have produced some fantastic pieces and it is interesting to see the variations of tools compared with Western designs.
I think the most interesting thing is that tools across the globe are very similar.
哇，发现一个华人木工大佬，厉害厉害，向你致敬。小弟也做了一个相似的频道，不过我是刚刚开始而已
Thank you!
You're welcome.
Great job 🛠️👍❤️
Hi John, Could you possibly provide some advice on how to properly set up a Chinese hand plane. greatly appreciate your careful explanation of building. Any other tips and tricks in setting or using the Chinese style plane would be great also.
once you made it; and it's at 45 degrees, the sole is flat, you can tap the blade square to the sole, and the wedge is tight. All that's left is to use it. Start w/ soft wood like pine. There is an unspoken mating that must occur between any new tool and the user/maker, that only comes /w practice. Assuming that the user/maker is competent.
That is one beautiful piece of work! I’m sure you’re proud of it. I would be.
That Master sure does talk a lot more than you do - haha. I’m sure he is explaining every detail and the need for each.
Where will you (or have already) be getting your blades? Or where would you suggest we get some for these plane builds if we make them?
Hope you will be making a playlist for the seven you’re going to build?
Thanks Mac. I bought my blade used on Ebay. That's where I'd look blades w/ plenty of life left. I'd recommend cast or laminate steel, luckily most old plane blades are cast/laminated steel.
Nice plane man!
Thank you.
做得很不错👍
谢了。
Nice video
thank you highly appreciated...😆
I’ve seen that Master before. Perhaps it was a link you gave us long ago. In any case, he is very interesting to watch!
I think I have link to his page or some guy who uploaded the master's videos onto youtube. Not sure if he had permission.
Hello John...Looks to become a great series of projects...! It is always fascinating, to compare tools and use around the world. PS: The youku links appears to be advert upon advert...
Thanks JH. I think it's important to learn about all cultures' woodworking and techniques to elevate our own understanding. I know youku has a 75s advertisement that you have to put up w/ in the beginning. They also don't allow easy d/l otherwise I was going to voice over the Chinese master's videos and bring them to youtube, because he's really humble and wise.
Hello again John...Thank You for the youku explanation. You can use Real Download Manager to get the videos.
Thanks, I can look into it.
AWESOME!!!
Thank you.
Not being familiar with the usage of Chinese style planes, is the handle really as much for holding or more of a tiller to feel the angle while planing an edge? Some big European molding planes sometimes have a similar cross piece but generally for more people to pull on for really wide pieces.
Awesome video m8
Thank you.
Do you have any experience using a centipede plane, wugong bao, 蜈蚣刨子
Hey John. I'm a new subscriber of yours. I also subscribe to a celebrated Chinese master, but I can't say his name because it's in Chinese. He only speaks Chinese. Sometimes, subtitles are provided. Do you know of any other Chinese masters I should check out? Thank you!
I only know of one Chinese woodworking master. ruclips.net/channel/UCSaXOMZMrMCZPdbPG947_-A
Ok! I must be in good hands! He's the one I've been watching. Thank you.
Hello! I bought a Chinese hand-plane, and now I would like to modify it. But can't find much information. What do you think about an strike button? Didi you find examples or it wasn't done traditionally? Also, what other sizes where common? I have a 28cm, and would like to make a jointer size, hopefully coping traditional dimensions for that task. Thank you!
John, I really like this video and intend to start making wood planes in both the Chinese and European styles. I do have 2 questions though. 1 - what size blade did you use and 2 - have you made any other wood planes. Thanks for the post.
Thanks David. The blade is about 1 7/8"; this was the second plane I have made.
i think im gonna try and make one :D
Great. Would love to see it when you are done.
I’m more of an English style tool maker and I haven’t studied much of the tools from around the world, but would making the soul of the plane a little thicker help you from blowing it out accidentally? And it would give it a little bit longer life if you ever need to true it up again from use. Other than that... beautiful plane. Thanks for sharing. QUIT BEING SO ATTENTIVE WITH YOUR WORK!!! Hitting yourself in the eye is not good for you. :D Sorry just trying to be funny.
The sole/body can't be as thick as European wood planes because the way the Chinese plane is used. Western planes are pushed from the top, so it won't tip over; but as the Chinese plane gets thicker/taller it becomes easier to tip because the hands are on the two sides. Typically these planes are ~2-3" thick, enough to clear your knuckles; I don't think wear is much of a issue 1. these are really easy to make. 2. can always resole.
The blowout he mentioned in between the handle and the bed, if the bed was cut out first. I hit myself in the lip, it is funny, because nothing by my pride got hurt.
John Zhu see... I learned something new... Chinese soul... lol J/K but seriously I didn’t know that. Cool thanks.
I think the plane you made is kind of Guang style hand plane (Guang means Guang Zhou, South China )
Master 幸全生 is from 天津, so not Guang or southern anything. This hand plane is ubiquitous in China.
赞，you are awesome,this is northern style, can you make a south style too?
Thanks. As far as I know this style is ubiquitous in China, I haven't see any difference between Northern or Southern Chinese planes. Master 幸全生 is from 天津 but he has never talked about a North/South dynamic. And I haven't observed one in my research.
John Zhu , as in humid is south, the build in 千金 normally no last long, so they use the iron or brass rod as 千金，and the handle is horn shape on the top but not go through, the base materials is 黄檀，northern normally is 榉木or杨奎， I do have my grandma’s plane with me, I could sent you a email if you are interest
Horn shaped handles are not a distinct Southern feature. They are translated as goat horn handles and are like you said on top of the plane. Planes with a thin sole usually have the horn style so the woodworker doesn't scrap his fingers. The rod may be a Southern feature but there are hundreds of videos with rods instead of cutting a wedge space. It is easier. The only real difference is the wedge being inserted behind the iron to hold the handle as well. I probably won't make a plane with a rod because I like the looks of the front wedge more. I suggest you make it and share it if you feel strongly about it.
Thanks for reply, pretty good explanations.
Hi John! I am fun of woodworking and I just started working on little projects around my home, so, my question is " from where do I order the blades?".
You can buy older caste steel blades on Ebay. Or you can use plane blade from places like Amazon.
我懒，直接铣了个斜刀槽 横着插了根大钢销楔子卡进去就好了。不过我做握把花的时间比较久，追求手感😊😊😊😊
我想，勤人做，懒人吃/说。说做刨的人多，做的人少。能用就行。
FYI on the mujifang planes the holes seem to be a tapered ovoid and the handles as well . I bought several planes from woodwell in china as well as blades vy reasonable. There are also some BOSI planes made from indonesian red sandalwood from e bay sellers in china they are also an excellent buy .Blades need flattening /sharpening
They are rounded (ovalish) because round holes are easier to make w/ power tools, it's not a feature.
I agree I watched the chinese master and his are squarish ? . I like the feel of the rounder handle , the squarish ones would seem to be be tiring for extended planing.
The square ones have a chamfered edge, they are very comfortable. The crooks of the finger in grasp is squarish.
Thanks for the explanation .!
great work. great outlook.
Have you a plan to do a video to show the chinese bow drill like the boat builders use? I saw it once in a book years ago but cant find it again. I think it uses a hand made drill bit shaped like a spear point. I think its bigger and powerfuller than the viking style ones
I have no plans, I am pretty sure what you're describing is of Middle East origin. Though, convergent evolution is very common in woodworking.
I'm probably too late for you to see this, but if you happen to, could you tell me something about why the blade is set farther back?
with my western planes, the toe is really short.
excellent video, really interested to watch more of your stuff, now.
I don't know the exact answer. I can offer a couple hypothesis. 1) the front is pushed down with index fingers, the fingers are weaker than the thenar, so more weight to the front. 2) the longer front is like have a longer guide before the blade engages. 3) it looks better. The one I made w/ the blade centered feels a little sluggish at the end of a push stroke. These are my reasoning.
thank you very much!
I would imagine that all of those are probably involved. certainly, with a short toe, it's sometimes hard to get the plane registered properly before starting the cut.
I really appreciate your taking the time to give me your reasoning on this!
you're welcome.
What's the difference from a Chinese wood working plane and a Japanese one?
How do you sharpen the blade?
Are front corners ground back or left straight?
How wide is throat front to back?
What is the bevel angle and edge angle?
Thank you
I don't want to discuss sharpening as it is a trope topic that people obsess over. I will say that my blades are all slightly convex, it could be less than 0.1 degree but it is there. I do knock off the corner. Smaller throat finer cut, 1/8 to 1/4" typical for me. The space behind the blade depends on the blade edge angle. The blade angle is between 20-30 degrees, I don't actually measure it.
@@johnzzhu thank you
Remember folks if you don't have that many clamps you have string :D
nice plane. shame to hit it with a metal hammer :) im sure you can make an awesome plane adjusting hammer out of some nice hardwood :)
Thanks Tomas. Some people make tools for show, I make tools for use. Hammering isn't going to damage the plane, the wood selected is resistant to the force and hardness of the hammer. A wood hammer would get destroyed by the plane iron and it would be too light.
i wrote it since i saw the deep hammer marks in the end-grain in the last part of the video at ruclips.net/video/9jrX-QHzhnM/видео.html - but i know what you mean, since i also only make tools to use for working in my trade of restoration of patrimony of antiquities and art specializing in wooden objects. how much care one puts in the tools and their use is up to each and everyone :)
I am aware of the hammer marks. I don't mind it. Also, the wood will compress and become harder w/ use and resist further hammer marks.
could it scrap cheese?
Hey John, i purchased a kanna and the blade and chip breaker is going right through when I try to put them back in. How can i correct the problem? Thanks!
Keep in mind that mass produced planes aren't fitted as tight. Also with use sometimes the blade and chip breakers become loose. I assume your kanna is Japanese in design and not Chinese? Depending on the design, you may have to move the metal bar, or put a bigger one in it. If it doesn't have a bar, then you can add wood to increase friction. As along as you can set it tight, the fact that it can slide through is not a big deal. In a traditional Chinese design, you just need to make a new thicker/bigger wedge.
Bought it off amazon
Do you follow “Young Je” Channel? The Korean DIY tool builder (here in the US Chicago area I think) who has made and continues to make tools.
I am subscribed to his channel.
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Usually Chinese use the hammer to tap the front of the plane, but not directly on the blade.
I've seen it done both ways all across the world. It's a matter of physics.
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6:40的“我靠”笑喷了
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what have all angles you draw wood first, how can made if not hav fact all dimensions and angles
you can look辛全生
I've already seen his videos on youku.
做的太粗糙了
Perhaps you could make one and show us how it is done.