The engine is manufactured in Osceola Wisconsin. Always nice when something is based in the USA I hope this is a huge hit looks like it would be a blast to ride. Nice job guys.
Seems to be selling like hotcakes...their sales in the first quarter of 2020 jumped over 30% because of this bike while Harley sales dropped 23% from the pandemic.
Great video guys. I got my riding impression a couple of months back when “Moto America” ran a bagger class at Laguna Seca with pro road racers on Indian and Harley baggers! All the fancy and fluffy is ok, it’s even better when you see how they fly on the track! Great aftermarket in this class!
I never thought I'd use it but I've had three bikes now with cruise control and I wouldn't want to own one without it. Of course that's because I do a lot of highway miles.
I am coming up on my 500 service this week. Love the bike, overall so far. I have heard the valve train noise you mentioned. I just thought: "Oh it is an overhead cam and four valve motor". It is taking sometime to feel comfortable with the throttle action. Plus, the handle bars are larger (wider) than i am used to as well, but all good. Great bike and the power is impressive along with the handling in corners. This is my first Indian, only owned H-D up until last year. I had become dis-satisfied (H-D) over the years with maintenance issues, and said I have bought my last one. I am very focused on keeping my vehicles in top running condition all the time...
I did take a H-D Road Glide 114 out for a spin. I even told the salesman, I was surprised I even came down to look no less take a demo ride. I looked at every bike in this class of motorcycle.
Polaris has been using mono shocks in their cruiser designs since at least 2004. Not sure about the V92C. The whirling you’re hearing is likely from them flipping the magneto and having the coils mounted to the primary cover. Other designs tend to have the coils mounted to the motor and covered by the magneto, making it a little quieter, but more at risk to failure due to trapped heat.
Definitely ups the game that HD is lacking (imo). I would have really considered that for my last purchase if Indian had a dealership closer to where I live. I really enjoy my 2019 HD Road Glide Special, but Harley dropped the ball on several items for being cheep, i.e. the miserable stereo system that you cannot hear at highway speeds.
Good review guys. Not really necessary to point out the 25 or so Indian head logos around the bike or on the mirrors. You both did a good job of detailing the technology built into the bike.
Hi I watched both challenger videos which were easy to watch and informative. Can you please do a video on the Indian Roadmaster. I also enjoy the Tfl trucks videos Thanks
I’ve been a motorcyclist for 50+ year now and have owned nearly all of the major brands of motorcycles. I currently ride a Harley Ultra Limited. I took several long demo rides on various Indian motorcycles. The Challenger is an entirely different motorcycle compared with the other Indian touring and bagger bikes. the controls are very light and the engine spins up quickly. It feels very much like my BMW K1600 in that regard. While it feels front-heavy, the fairing being frame-mounted keeps the steering feel light. Plenty of power compared with the Thunderstroke 111, and very few vibrations. Good heat management, decent seat. The Challenger feels like a very good all-day or all-month ride. My two concerns are the lack of Indian dealers (several states have zero dealers at this time), and the reliability of the suspension. I owned a Victory Cross Country Tour and the suspension was awful, and Indian still sources its suspension parts from Fox. Last, having experienced Polaris shutting down Victory I’m wary of Polaris deciding to close down Indian if there is more profit to be earned in its other product lines.
I like the challenger. I wish they had a 2 up tour model, with lowers, tourpack , passenger floorboards, 4 speaker system to name a few. I know these are all add ons but it is a lot more $$$. I guess the only bike in their lineup like that is the roadmaster
Give it a year or two, they'll probably make a Challenger touring model. They have the parts now, but you're probably looking at 5 grand or more for the add-ons.
@@channell11 update I rode the challenger at a demo event. I liked how smooth it was, loved the clutch feel. It fit me pretty well. The audio was disappointing, was not use to the gauges. I really was expecting it to be faster. It ran rough after about 65 mph like it needed some tuning. Rode a roadmaster limited it was fine until about 70 then it felt out of tune as well. The suspension was great and the handling was good. That roadmaster was agile and light! My bike has had performance work at stage 2 ultra limited. Neither of the indian bikes stereo compared to the boom audio I have stock. Both had 4 speakers the roadmaster was better it was 200 watts. Maybe just the speakers I don't know. I like my jams when I'm riding!
Thanks for posting good luck Indian never mind what I ride but I do a lot of long miles and to me dealing network is important and Indian as a right now does not have one
Good job, just too much tech. Instead of comparing tattoos, are the next generation of "Bikers" going to compare pocket protectors and smart phones? Want to hear it roar!
Don't review bikes that often do you? Or did much research on this bike? Rear cylinder deactivation has been around for years. The fob will lock and unlock the saddlebags remotely. Key in fob will lock bags and steering. There is also a puddle light under the bike that lights up when you use the key fob. Brembo brakes are radially mounted for better stopping power. There is a 12vdc port on the right saddlebag lid by the lock. Inverted forks on baggers is not new either, my 2010 victory had that. The screens on the ridecommand can be customized by drag and drop. The TPMS will work after the bike starts moving. The S in the circle is for when the kickstand is down. The vents can be closed. No need to hold the start button until it starts, just tap and release it. Bike will start on its own. Tires were especially designed for this bike by Metzler. This is a 2021 model. Slight differences between 2020 and 2021, location of power button and painted inner fairing. How do i know all of this? Perused the interwebs for a year for info. And i bought a 2020 challenger darkhorse in november. The bike is absolutely awesome. I know the TFLbike is a new thing. You will get better. Still a good video. Ride safe. Shiney side up, rubber side down.
These children know nothing of V-Twins, touring bikes, laying down thoudands of miles or spending weeks in the saddle. They are better suited for reviewing computer games.
@@mattshaggs2931 Too bad that you failed to find any semblance of intellect. Life can be a bumpy ride on the short bus. Now be a good boy and clean mommy's basement.
@@servicarrider Oh, I didn't know you were running personal IQ tests through comments on RUclips. Well, damn...I'm just gonna have to learn to live with the fact that someone I don't know doesn't think much of me...L...O...L
The engine is manufactured in Osceola Wisconsin. Always nice when something is based in the USA I hope this is a huge hit looks like it would be a blast to ride. Nice job guys.
Seems to be selling like hotcakes...their sales in the first quarter of 2020 jumped over 30% because of this bike while Harley sales dropped 23% from the pandemic.
Great video guys. I got my riding impression a couple of months back when “Moto America” ran a bagger class at Laguna Seca with pro road racers on Indian and Harley baggers! All the fancy and fluffy is ok, it’s even better when you see how they fly on the track! Great aftermarket in this class!
Just saw today they've expanded to have 5 races next year cause it got such good feedback
I never thought I'd use it but I've had three bikes now with cruise control and I wouldn't want to own one without it. Of course that's because I do a lot of highway miles.
In Depth/detail review. Great looking machine! Looking forward to the ride impressions. Maybe do a night video of how it looks lit up. (or garage)
You forgot to talk about the puddle light.. also the second peep while pressing the lock is the alarm being set.. anyhow good job
I am coming up on my 500 service this week. Love the bike, overall so far. I have heard the valve train noise you mentioned. I just thought: "Oh it is an overhead cam and four valve motor". It is taking sometime to feel comfortable with the throttle action. Plus, the handle bars are larger (wider) than i am used to as well, but all good. Great bike and the power is impressive along with the handling in corners. This is my first Indian, only owned H-D up until last year. I had become dis-satisfied (H-D) over the years with maintenance issues, and said I have bought my last one. I am very focused on keeping my vehicles in top running condition all the time...
I did take a H-D Road Glide 114 out for a spin. I even told the salesman, I was surprised I even came down to look no less take a demo ride. I looked at every bike in this class of motorcycle.
There's that cool music again!!! Good morning Kase!!😎 Cool looking machine!!!thanks again!!
This was the most in-depth video I have saw on the Indian Challenger...... Thank you 👍👍
It's amazing how much indian has to offer vs harley.
Polaris has been using mono shocks in their cruiser designs since at least 2004. Not sure about the V92C. The whirling you’re hearing is likely from them flipping the magneto and having the coils mounted to the primary cover. Other designs tend to have the coils mounted to the motor and covered by the magneto, making it a little quieter, but more at risk to failure due to trapped heat.
V92C was a mono shock
Love those Indian motorcycles!
They just keep getting better and better!👍
Indian makes amazing bikes.
Congratulations on a really comprehensive review. Enjoyed watching this.
Definitely ups the game that HD is lacking (imo). I would have really considered that for my last purchase if Indian had a dealership closer to where I live. I really enjoy my 2019 HD Road Glide Special, but Harley dropped the ball on several items for being cheep, i.e. the miserable stereo system that you cannot hear at highway speeds.
Im excited to see what Harley does over the next couple years now that Indian has woken them up.
Wow, that's a real piece of art
Good review guys. Not really necessary to point out the 25 or so Indian head logos around the bike or on the mirrors. You both did a good job of detailing the technology built into the bike.
The front fork protectors are on the wrong way "just saying" Nice bike.
That’s funny! Didn’t even notice that!
Could be a collector item one day with those logos!😂
Tell tommy to man up and get on there soon !!
I think Polaris uses some GM suppliers.
Always like a little rally tower on a bike.
Mono shocks are pretty common on cruisers-particularly metric ones.
Hi I watched both challenger videos which were easy to watch and informative. Can you please do a video on the Indian Roadmaster. I also enjoy the Tfl trucks videos
Thanks
The Central Locking is new for Indian and OLD for BMW, 1250RT, 1600GTL have had that for YEARS...
I’ve been a motorcyclist for 50+ year now and have owned nearly all of the major brands of motorcycles. I currently ride a Harley Ultra Limited. I took several long demo rides on various Indian motorcycles. The Challenger is an entirely different motorcycle compared with the other Indian touring and bagger bikes. the controls are very light and the engine spins up quickly. It feels very much like my BMW K1600 in that regard. While it feels front-heavy, the fairing being frame-mounted keeps the steering feel light. Plenty of power compared with the Thunderstroke 111, and very few vibrations. Good heat management, decent seat. The Challenger feels like a very good all-day or all-month ride. My two concerns are the lack of Indian dealers (several states have zero dealers at this time), and the reliability of the suspension. I owned a Victory Cross Country Tour and the suspension was awful, and Indian still sources its suspension parts from Fox. Last, having experienced Polaris shutting down Victory I’m wary of Polaris deciding to close down Indian if there is more profit to be earned in its other product lines.
There is a lot of buzz around the new Indians and I see a lot of HD guys making the switch. I don't think they're going anywhere.
Many Roadmasters out there with over 100k, including a few over 300k, with no suspension issues.
Nice to see someone else from CO.
Best video I have seen about the details of the bike.
IMO those adustible windshield is a big plus
I like the challenger. I wish they had a 2 up tour model, with lowers, tourpack , passenger floorboards, 4 speaker system to name a few. I know these are all add ons but it is a lot more $$$. I guess the only bike in their lineup like that is the roadmaster
Give it a year or two, they'll probably make a Challenger touring model. They have the parts now, but you're probably looking at 5 grand or more for the add-ons.
@@channell11 update I rode the challenger at a demo event. I liked how smooth it was, loved the clutch feel. It fit me pretty well. The audio was disappointing, was not use to the gauges. I really was expecting it to be faster. It ran rough after about 65 mph like it needed some tuning. Rode a roadmaster limited it was fine until about 70 then it felt out of tune as well. The suspension was great and the handling was good. That roadmaster was agile and light! My bike has had performance work at stage 2 ultra limited. Neither of the indian bikes stereo compared to the boom audio I have stock. Both had 4 speakers the roadmaster was better it was 200 watts. Maybe just the speakers I don't know. I like my jams when I'm riding!
Your wish has been granted. See: Indian Challenger pursuit.
@@IndianMC-jf3cp already got a roadglide limited.
Time to upgrade 😎
I've been wondering when you guys were going to make a motorcycle channel, nice😎🤘🏽
Sur les importations Challenger en France, le War Bonnet n'est pas équipé de lumière ! J'avoue que c'est assez mesquin ...
That's the best review on RUclips 👍
Great review
Not sure the limited is worth the price difference from the base. I mean several thousand difference
Your insurance may not cover your passenger getting his fingers trapped between the tire and subframe!
🤔No heated grips on a $28k bike? That’s an oversight.
Thanks for posting good luck Indian never mind what I ride but I do a lot of long miles and to me dealing network is important and Indian as a right now does not have one
lot of swirl marks in that paint
Very nice no doubt, but price is out of my range for sure.
Very good info
Stock Exhaust & Bars are ugly. But 125hp & being watercooled are nice.
Can we take it on the road.
nice motorcycle
Good job, just too much tech. Instead of comparing tattoos, are the next generation of "Bikers" going to compare pocket protectors and smart phones? Want to hear it roar!
Theres still stripped down bikes.
Instead of comparing tattoos they will be comparing bikes
Cool vid
Nice Polaris 👍🇺🇸
Hahahah ... jealous.
I'd be mad too if I paid $20k+ for the "Performance First" 78hp Harley only to get eaten in a drag race by a stock Indian bagger...
If only the bike said Victory on the side instead of Indian. Don't tell cancel culture. The bike certainly has a lot of cool features.
This was definitely a Victory design pre 2014
1901 sorry Harley but indian is original industry
Don't review bikes that often do you? Or did much research on this bike? Rear cylinder deactivation has been around for years. The fob will lock and unlock the saddlebags remotely. Key in fob will lock bags and steering. There is also a puddle light under the bike that lights up when you use the key fob. Brembo brakes are radially mounted for better stopping power. There is a 12vdc port on the right saddlebag lid by the lock. Inverted forks on baggers is not new either, my 2010 victory had that. The screens on the ridecommand can be customized by drag and drop. The TPMS will work after the bike starts moving. The S in the circle is for when the kickstand is down. The vents can be closed. No need to hold the start button until it starts, just tap and release it. Bike will start on its own. Tires were especially designed for this bike by Metzler. This is a 2021 model. Slight differences between 2020 and 2021, location of power button and painted inner fairing.
How do i know all of this? Perused the interwebs for a year for info. And i bought a 2020 challenger darkhorse in november. The bike is absolutely awesome.
I know the TFLbike is a new thing. You will get better. Still a good video. Ride safe. Shiney side up, rubber side down.
These children know nothing of V-Twins, touring bikes, laying down thoudands of miles or spending weeks in the saddle. They are better suited for reviewing computer games.
Found the boomer...
@@mattshaggs2931 Too bad that you failed to find any semblance of intellect. Life can be a bumpy ride on the short bus. Now be a good boy and clean mommy's basement.
@@servicarrider Oh, I didn't know you were running personal IQ tests through comments on RUclips. Well, damn...I'm just gonna have to learn to live with the fact that someone I don't know doesn't think much of me...L...O...L
Ugliest bike on the market.
Subjective.
Another HD owner jealous he got bent over for an inferior motorcycle.
@@IndianMC-jf3cp I have a Honda Goldwing.
@@CraigSmith568 and I think those are ugly. Guess thats what subjective means