Excellent video. Two months ago, I was on 2000 miles trip with my model y. Phantom breaking happened 3 times with no apparent reason. I had to slam the accelerator to avoid collision with cars/truck behind me. This essentially happened when the speed is above 75mph and it is very SCARY. Especially when driving with 6 month pregnant woman. I am big Tesla fan but this not acceptable. This is not a deal breaker as there's a work around but they need to fix this issue though. Going forward, I will be using the "road trip" profile. Simple cruise control feature should be available.
Very nice video. I totally agree that this phantom breaking is a problem that needs to be fixed. I just got through my first 250 mile road trip to Wisconsin and back to Iowa. I had many phantom breaking events coming home. Many were on Wisconsin two lane roads coming up to a top of a hill but there were others in cruise control that I cannot explain what caused it. Thank you for the tip on Road Trip Profile.
I snapped out of my Tesla obsession after i bought one. It's one thing to be driving by myself and getting phantom breaking and almost being hit by thr car behind me, it's another when the wife and kids are out shopping and getting paranoid that someone is going to hit them. We're at the point that we're all scared to even drive it. Extremely dangerous car for a family. Luckily we do have a Toyota Pathfinder that isn't trying to kill us every 20 minutes. The Tesla is gone after lease is up.
Hi Spoken Reviews, I've completed a 6 hours drive in Eastern Canada and I can assure you the heat is not the problem. I believe the apps and/or the HW is not ready. With your video of four months and the older ones, I will report it only to Tesla, but Canadian Auto club Association (CAA) and Transport Canada. As pilot and Civilian Search and Rescue, it remind me of what Boeing had done two years ago.
Thanks for explaining how to report these to tesla. Had to do it 3 times in 100 miles today. I think mirages on hot, sunny days makes it worse. I had 24 PB incidents driving I-94 through Montana a few days ago. Hot, cloudless, sunny day, straight highway, no cars or trucks anywhere near me. I noticed it happened regularly cresting hills too, no mirages in sight. It's seriously frustrating. As for hovering your foot, I just rest my right foot on the throttle pedal so I can immediately push it. It's become such an instinctive reflex, my car has turned me into Pavlov's dog: car slams on brakes, I slam pedal, ffs. I guess fearing for your life will make you develop a new reflex REAL fast. Next time I'm a passenger in someone else's car and they brake suddenly, I'll probably stomp a hole in their passenger side floor board , lol. Thank you for posting these videos.
3 times in 100 miles is a lot. Very similar to what I experienced. Thanks for sharing! We all will have PTSD from the phantom braking. It's unfortunate because everything else about the is amazing.
NO, it is not alot.... Rented a 2023 M3 from Hertz last week. On a trip down I-70 Kansas to Colorado, first time driving a Tesla, 20+ brake slams in one day! Rough roads, smooth roads, nothing in sight. No tumbleweeds, shadows from overpasses, nothing. 75 to 40 mph in two seconds. I had read about phantom braking before, just didn't know it was so common or what to do when it happens. Hertz, in my view is negligent to not even mention it to its customers. I will continue to just rent and not own until this issue is resolved. And for those that claim it never happens to them, they better carry fresh panties in the glove box just in case!
I got a model 3 2022 in end of March. The phantom breaking is so bad I don't even use cruise control or auto pilot anymore. It totally scares me to be honest. Almost daily it would do a phantom breaking. Love the car otherwise, but I'm going to have to trade it in and get something else. I'm just scared to drive it. It's not bad without cruise control or auto pilot, but I drive sometimes a lot to get to work and other places and I really need cruise control for longer trips.
I don’t own a Tesla - yet. I rented one for a 3 week trip from Dallas to Denver to Silverthorne to Albuquerque. I experienced numerous occasions of phantom braking. As you said, it is unnerving, and greatly diminishes the joy you expect from a roadtrip in an expensive car. Side note: At a party recently, I was talking to a loyal 4-year Tesla owner. I mentioned the phantom braking, and you would have thought that I had questioned the honor of his wife. He didn’t speak to me again the rest of the evening!!! LOL
I have 2019 model 3 and took a trip yesterday and had 3 phantom breaking incidents in less than 30 minutes. It unnerved my wife to the point I had to turn off FSD. On a separate note, driving down the highway where I have 2 lanes, the auto pilot keeps switching lanes and riding in the passing lane for no apparent reason. I am not sure why it is doing this. I don’t see this behavior in the FSD videos. Also, while In town on FSD It made a left turn and the car didn’t slow down at all probably going 35 MPH on a 90 degree turn. My Cell phone was in my cup holder and it went flying across the passenger seat and fell between the seat and passenger door. I love my Tesla and am pulling for the FSD team but I have not seen a ton of progress in the FSD updates I have received. I will try the suggestion in the video about toggling off the auto braking etc. to limit phantom breaking. Thanks for the video and keep them coming!
My husband and I just finished a road trip in our model Y from Southern California to SLC, Utah. We had 5 PB's. 1 of them was fast and hard. It was pretty scary as Utah has 80MPH speed limit so we went from 80 to about 40 within half a second. Luckily no one was behind us nor were there any "hills" in the road. It happens when there is no ONE around. It's never happens in traffic (luckily). Makes me scared to use the cruise control. All updates are completed so it's not the software. People have suggested turning off safety features but that's half the reason I bought the car!! Don't bother calling Tesla they don't give a flying fluck the car is unsafe.
Commenting for a data point. I'm 1 month in owning a new 2022 MYLR, software 2022.36.6, 1500 miles. Autopilot used about 60% of the time. I have not had a phantom braking event occur yet, but I found this video while researching these events because I'm a little nervous for my first one to occur. When my experience does change, I'll try to remember to update this comment with milage, software, etc.
I just got a '22 model 3 LR last week, and I've had two phantom braking today. The first was a cool morning, no direct sunlight, 8 lane freeway, few cars, and as i passed a semi on my right the car braked suddenly. Then again on my way home, as i passed a pickup on my right, car braked again. By the way, I bought the monthly $200 FSD, but I can't use it bacause my safety score is too low, but I was still charged the $200. I'm starting to feel buyers remorse.
It's really strange. I would assume that a major interstate or highway would have enough data on it to prevent the phantom braking. Please log the error with your car when it happens.
We have the same problem. I called Tesla yesterday and the response from Tyler was simply, they cannot fix what is not broken! I then replied , If someone was in back of me and it phantom braked, then there would be an accident. His reply was " your Tesla would automatically speed up before the impact!" Now I was just thinking about a vehicle in front of me....... I have confidence in Tesla and and sure it will be fixed. Not so sure of Tyler though.
I don’t have PB often but if I do I notice it’s when there’s shadows on the road or there’s steep hill ahead and the car can’t see the other side of the road
I agree with everything you say. Just completed a 1500 mile round trip from DFW to Colo Spgs and had PB experience a minimum of 18 times. So frustrating. Most of the time, it only affected me but three times there were cars behind me and the PB was quick, hard and long (from 72 to 30) and I finally figured out that I needed to either tap brake to disengage auto-pilot and mash the accelerator. I then started leaving my foot lightly on the accelerator in the ready position to try to counter the braking. I must say, this is not a fun or safe way to drive. I also resorted to disengaging auto-pilot whenever i saw a car coming up behind me, as I was so afraid of causing an accident, not to mention feeling the embarrassed having people behind me think i am a terrible driver! When I got home, I scheduled a service appointment only to be contacted by message that the appointment was cancelled due to them stating that they did not find anything wrong with the vehicle ( I assume, someone or something can run a report and make this determination remotely??) I am concerned about the overall safety of this and what I now, disappointingly, believe is half-3/4 baked technology as I have always been a Tesla fan. I also agree with your statement regarding different situations where you experienced PB such as possible mirages, cresting hills, etc but without being consistent to come to a solid conclusion. FRUSTRATING. I also went into autopilot and changed some settings that I thought would provide just a “cruise control” experience, but did not help in my trip. Thanks again for your post and to the other people responding as it feels a bit comforting to know I am not crazy. My grandfather always said that misery loves company.
I also wanted to add the fact that the trip did impress me with regards to routing. Took me the exact way that I have taken for the past 30 years. Tesla supercharger locations were very convenient. Always between 10 - 25 minute stops and never had to wait for a spot. One stop did place me at a Sonic drive in, but sadly did not provide restroom facilities. Yes, it did add about 40 minutes overall to the trip than normal, but very acceptable. Time to stop and smell the roses so to speak.
0:53 something appears on the screen for that first phantom brake. It's like it thinks there's a pedestrian or something. Small black dot in the distance, i'll have to watch it on a larger screen.
I love my two Tesla Model 3s, they were purchased in the first year of manufacure. I called Tesla Service the other day to see if there was any solution to my phantom braking problem...they said they weren't really aware of it or any problem like that!! Eh. I don't have full self driving, just enhanced autopilot.
My '22 Mini Cooper SE has camera assisted cruise control and I've noticed phantom breaking with "weird" lightening conditions with the sun (mostly during sunrises and a bit after). It's very annoying.
I’ve had several occasions on my trip from Dallas to Galveston. If you’re paying attention and also foot resting on the acc I didn’t feel like it was a huge issue.
Maybe not the same cause but every time I pass by this one exit my MYP will pick up the “Ramp 35mph” sign and start braking from 75 to 35! Very annoying and it’s only that one exit. I also have phantom braking in the city when it picks up the car in the left turn lane. It shows that there are many factors triggering this. Also a huge tesla fan, maybe in a few years or even a decade this tech will get better. Like your content keep it up.
I had PB on my trip from Ohio to Texas on my M3LR. Luckily, no one was around. I tried changing a few settings but it still happened. Then I tried auto pilot with auto steering, for about 20 minutes or so. No occurrence so far. But will experiment further. This is frustrating and disappointing.
Great video. Have the same issue big time. Coming from Volvo I’m greatly disappointed. A huge problem with my Y model 2022. The car also has no real idea what the speed limit is. Sign reading is very limited and map info on that are minimal. I live in Israel. Having said that there are many other issues with the design. No AC in the seats, over heating, wheel design causes curb rash, rough ride and more 😢😢
My old Volven S90 did not have issues with auto seeding. No way. It had sensors in the steering wheel which made holding the wheel much more relaxed. The car knows your holding. Also disconnecting the auto steer and reengaging is done automatically
Check you camera lenses. See if they are dirty or cracked. Also the camera behind the windshield. Also I would recalibrate your cameras. After several updates that might help.
Is this only on autopilot? Disregard. My 2018 accord does similar with ACC. It has radar and freaks out at times. It won’t hit the breaks but just light up an alarm to watch out. I hit he had and power through. I think the tadar gets reflection from road signs overhead.
I made a 3300 mile road trip last week from OKC to the Canadian border in Montana and back. I had numerous phantom braking incidents, however, three or four incidents could've had major issues. For example, I was traveling at 74 mph with cruise control on, and was abruptly slowed to 52 mph. Fortunately, I was on a four lane highway, and did not have a vehicle close enough to cause an accident. One gentlemen I met along the way said that Tesla planned to correct the issue with its next beta. Is that correct?
Random question and very off topic from this. I just noticed random Model Y’s have been stated to no longer support data in the front center console USB-C ports according to the Tesla Model Y owners manual. Could you attempt playing music or connecting a game controller or phone to it please to see if that’s still a thing?
I have found PB happens to me about every 30 min, but only when there is nobody in sight. To solve this I try to get behind someone going the speed I prefer, then set cruise a little higher so my Tesla stays the distance I set behind that car. It never happens in this situation.
It does not occur without fsd, cruise control is an extension, or I guess a lesser version of fsd, so it happens if you use any form of the cruise control
It has been my experience that the PB happens on former road repair sites. Is DOT doing something to make this happen? It’s the same in bothTexas and Arizona.
Just wondering why on earth you have that sticker just below the cameras, could it be the cause!?? Reflections, shadows? I have phantom braking occasionally, not as frequent as you have! ;)
What happened after your service? Is this still happening? Here in AUS, I’ve got a model Y 23 RWD. Have experienced random phantom brakes on new vehicle. Empty roads, clear weather and not sunny so cameras have good view. I’m baffled as to what to do. I would like to avoid turning off emergency safety features as it defeats the purpose.
Guess it won't phantom brake if there are traffic. I noticed it does it when a car leaves the hwy onto an exit or no cars in front of me for a while. Of course, the scary part would be if there was a car behind you.
Glare/shadows etc on the glass I think causes the confusion since it is camera based. You can only temporary disable the emergency braking, it keeps turning it back on. You can't disable it and leave it off. This is dangerous. I have been on the receiving end of the brake check by a Tesla. I am afraid to be behind a Tesla now.
FWIW, my Kia never has PB on the interstate. However, it does on city streets as the radar mistakes a car as being in my lane. Usually around a tight curve or someone coming towards me making a left turn crossing my path. Expect my MY within a month so I appreciate the warning. This will be a deal breaker for my wife if it happens on the interstate.
2 lane , 2 way. It has happened to me. Nothing that scared me. I’ve only had it happen about 5 times. My Wife’s Toyota Venza. That is equipped with adaptive cruise and forward collision warning does the same. I think all of the Driver Assist products. Do this from time to time. Make sure your windshield and cameras are clean.
It is a very interesting topic. I have a 2021 toyota highlander and have never had it happen in that. We have gone from Dallas to Panama City Florida twice with no issues and have about 24,000 miles on it with no similar issues
@@SpokenReviews My Wife’s Venza is a 2021 as well. We’ve experience the over cautious slowdowns and with the lane assist. It will push the vehicle left or right. When it believes your in a dangerous position. Still a great SUV. We love it.
I traded in a 2019 Civic with 35000km on it for my M3P a month ago and never had a phantom brake incident with it in a little over 3 years. To get something like 50 in 9 days with my Tesla something is definitely up.
I am in Australia and reported phantom breaking 2 years ago and now simply ignore it. I am sick of reporting it to Tesla. Don't know why it's getting airtime only now.
What has Tesla said or done about this? Are they ignoring this? I am close to pulling the trigger and getting a Tesla but, this has me concerned. If you pay for these features, shouldn't they work?
Don’t report it … good idea. ! Be nice until someone dies due to this issue wow !!!! That thing should be parked until deemed safe !! How irresponsible of Tesla !
This is not good :( Even my old 2016 E-Golf doesnt phantom break and has smart cruise control. I have ordered a model Y and I'm waiting for it. I hope tesla will will aknowledge this soon and hopefully it is possible to fix. I thought they were the leader on intelligent cruise control -guess not
My model 3 LR PBs just before overtakes when AP is engaged and auto steers with screen warnings and alarms even when all automated features are disabled in settings-Autopilot! I cannot even use Cruise Control! These cars are unsafe and are still being mis-sold.
Mate when I first bought my model S 6 years ago never a single phantom break. 2 years ago, constant phantom breaking on my model S. I rang Tesla 4 times and they always spin bullshit. Worst company to deal with ever. They just lie. I love my car, I HATE TESLA THE COMPANY.
Why doesn't Tesla address this issue? Also, I see all these fanboys extolling FSD on city streets, but completely ignoring this problem. This is a major failing of FSD.
It may be due to the software that relies only on vision. My old model S has radar as well as vision. With the new software updates I suspect they turned off my radar. I'm not sure and cannot get a straight answer from anyone. Again, TESLA, WORST COMPANY TO DEAL WITH. But I love my model S. It's a great car which USED to be better, 5 years ago due to the current crap software
I have an appointment on Friday for Mobil Service. I will see what they say. If nothing can be done I'm just going to disable the automatic braking feature
Excellent video. Two months ago, I was on 2000 miles trip with my model y. Phantom breaking happened 3 times with no apparent reason. I had to slam the accelerator to avoid collision with cars/truck behind me. This essentially happened when the speed is above 75mph and it is very SCARY. Especially when driving with 6 month pregnant woman. I am big Tesla fan but this not acceptable. This is not a deal breaker as there's a work around but they need to fix this issue though. Going forward, I will be using the "road trip" profile. Simple cruise control feature should be available.
I love my Model Y - but the phantom braking is so annoying (and dangerous) that I canceled the FSD subscription and never use cruise - what a shame
Very nice video. I totally agree that this phantom breaking is a problem that needs to be fixed. I just got through my first 250 mile road trip to Wisconsin and back to Iowa. I had many phantom breaking events coming home. Many were on Wisconsin two lane roads coming up to a top of a hill but there were others in cruise control that I cannot explain what caused it. Thank you for the tip on Road Trip Profile.
I snapped out of my Tesla obsession after i bought one. It's one thing to be driving by myself and getting phantom breaking and almost being hit by thr car behind me, it's another when the wife and kids are out shopping and getting paranoid that someone is going to hit them. We're at the point that we're all scared to even drive it. Extremely dangerous car for a family. Luckily we do have a Toyota Pathfinder that isn't trying to kill us every 20 minutes. The Tesla is gone after lease is up.
Lmao 😂😂
Hi Spoken Reviews, I've completed a 6 hours drive in Eastern Canada and I can assure you the heat is not the problem. I believe the apps and/or the HW is not ready. With your video of four months and the older ones, I will report it only to Tesla, but Canadian Auto club Association (CAA) and Transport Canada. As pilot and Civilian Search and Rescue, it remind me of what Boeing had done two years ago.
Thanks for explaining how to report these to tesla. Had to do it 3 times in 100 miles today. I think mirages on hot, sunny days makes it worse. I had 24 PB incidents driving I-94 through Montana a few days ago. Hot, cloudless, sunny day, straight highway, no cars or trucks anywhere near me. I noticed it happened regularly cresting hills too, no mirages in sight. It's seriously frustrating. As for hovering your foot, I just rest my right foot on the throttle pedal so I can immediately push it. It's become such an instinctive reflex, my car has turned me into Pavlov's dog: car slams on brakes, I slam pedal, ffs. I guess fearing for your life will make you develop a new reflex REAL fast. Next time I'm a passenger in someone else's car and they brake suddenly, I'll probably stomp a hole in their passenger side floor board , lol. Thank you for posting these videos.
3 times in 100 miles is a lot. Very similar to what I experienced. Thanks for sharing!
We all will have PTSD from the phantom braking. It's unfortunate because everything else about the is amazing.
NO, it is not alot.... Rented a 2023 M3 from Hertz last week. On a trip down I-70 Kansas to Colorado, first time driving a Tesla, 20+ brake slams in one day! Rough roads, smooth roads, nothing in sight. No tumbleweeds, shadows from overpasses, nothing. 75 to 40 mph in two seconds. I had read about phantom braking before, just didn't know it was so common or what to do when it happens. Hertz, in my view is negligent to not even mention it to its customers. I will continue to just rent and not own until this issue is resolved. And for those that claim it never happens to them, they better carry fresh panties in the glove box just in case!
Thanks! Great info, especially the bug reporting! Good luck with the service call.
Thank you!
I got a model 3 2022 in end of March. The phantom breaking is so bad I don't even use cruise control or auto pilot anymore. It totally scares me to be honest. Almost daily it would do a phantom breaking. Love the car otherwise, but I'm going to have to trade it in and get something else. I'm just scared to drive it. It's not bad without cruise control or auto pilot, but I drive sometimes a lot to get to work and other places and I really need cruise control for longer trips.
I don’t own a Tesla - yet. I rented one for a 3 week trip from Dallas to Denver to Silverthorne to Albuquerque. I experienced numerous occasions of phantom braking. As you said, it is unnerving, and greatly diminishes the joy you expect from a roadtrip in an expensive car. Side note: At a party recently, I was talking to a loyal 4-year Tesla owner. I mentioned the phantom braking, and you would have thought that I had questioned the honor of his wife. He didn’t speak to me again the rest of the evening!!! LOL
I just rented from Hertz, a model 3, in Los Angeles and experienced phantom braking. Scary! I reported it to Hertz.
I have 2019 model 3 and took a trip yesterday and had 3 phantom breaking incidents in less than 30 minutes. It unnerved my wife to the point I had to turn off FSD.
On a separate note, driving down the highway where I have 2 lanes, the auto pilot keeps switching lanes and riding in the passing lane for no apparent reason. I am not sure why it is doing this. I don’t see this behavior in the FSD videos.
Also, while In town on FSD It made a left turn and the car didn’t slow down at all probably going 35 MPH on a 90 degree turn. My Cell phone was in my cup holder and it went flying across the passenger seat and fell between the seat and passenger door.
I love my Tesla and am pulling for the FSD team but I have not seen a ton of progress in the FSD updates I have received.
I will try the suggestion in the video about toggling off the auto braking etc. to limit phantom breaking.
Thanks for the video and keep them coming!
My husband and I just finished a road trip in our model Y from Southern California to SLC, Utah. We had 5 PB's. 1 of them was fast and hard. It was pretty scary as Utah has 80MPH speed limit so we went from 80 to about 40 within half a second. Luckily no one was behind us nor were there any "hills" in the road. It happens when there is no ONE around. It's never happens in traffic (luckily). Makes me scared to use the cruise control. All updates are completed so it's not the software. People have suggested turning off safety features but that's half the reason I bought the car!! Don't bother calling Tesla they don't give a flying fluck the car is unsafe.
Commenting for a data point. I'm 1 month in owning a new 2022 MYLR, software 2022.36.6, 1500 miles. Autopilot used about 60% of the time. I have not had a phantom braking event occur yet, but I found this video while researching these events because I'm a little nervous for my first one to occur. When my experience does change, I'll try to remember to update this comment with milage, software, etc.
2023 Model Y here. Got PB 2-6 times on a 100 miles trip each time I activate the cruise control
I just got a '22 model 3 LR last week, and I've had two phantom braking today. The first was a cool morning, no direct sunlight, 8 lane freeway, few cars, and as i passed a semi on my right the car braked suddenly. Then again on my way home, as i passed a pickup on my right, car braked again. By the way, I bought the monthly $200 FSD, but I can't use it bacause my safety score is too low, but I was still charged the $200. I'm starting to feel buyers remorse.
It's really strange. I would assume that a major interstate or highway would have enough data on it to prevent the phantom braking. Please log the error with your car when it happens.
We have the same problem. I called Tesla yesterday and the response from Tyler was simply, they cannot fix what is not broken! I then replied , If someone was in back of me and it phantom braked, then there would be an accident. His reply was " your Tesla would automatically speed up before the impact!" Now I was just thinking about a vehicle in front of me....... I have confidence in Tesla and and sure it will be fixed. Not so sure of Tyler though.
I don’t have PB often but if I do I notice it’s when there’s shadows on the road or there’s steep hill ahead and the car can’t see the other side of the road
I agree with everything you say. Just completed a 1500 mile round trip from DFW to Colo Spgs and had PB experience a minimum of 18 times. So frustrating. Most of the time, it only affected me but three times there were cars behind me and the PB was quick, hard and long (from 72 to 30) and I finally figured out that I needed to either tap brake to disengage auto-pilot and mash the accelerator. I then started leaving my foot lightly on the accelerator in the ready position to try to counter the braking. I must say, this is not a fun or safe way to drive. I also resorted to disengaging auto-pilot whenever i saw a car coming up behind me, as I was so afraid of causing an accident, not to mention feeling the embarrassed having people behind me think i am a terrible driver!
When I got home, I scheduled a service appointment only to be contacted by message that the appointment was cancelled due to them stating that they did not find anything wrong with the vehicle ( I assume, someone or something can run a report and make this determination remotely??)
I am concerned about the overall safety of this and what I now, disappointingly, believe is half-3/4 baked technology as I have always been a Tesla fan.
I also agree with your statement regarding different situations where you experienced PB such as possible mirages, cresting hills, etc but without being consistent to come to a solid conclusion. FRUSTRATING.
I also went into autopilot and changed some settings that I thought would provide just a “cruise control” experience, but did not help in my trip.
Thanks again for your post and to the other people responding as it feels a bit comforting to know I am not crazy. My grandfather always said that misery loves company.
I also wanted to add the fact that the trip did impress me with regards to routing. Took me the exact way that I have taken for the past 30 years. Tesla supercharger locations were very convenient. Always between 10 - 25 minute stops and never had to wait for a spot. One stop did place me at a Sonic drive in, but sadly did not provide restroom facilities. Yes, it did add about 40 minutes overall to the trip than normal, but very acceptable. Time to stop and smell the roses so to speak.
Same here. Amarillo to DFW last week was a nightmare. Ended up driving manually. Going from 83mph down to 50mph is nuts. Very unsafe.
0:53 something appears on the screen for that first phantom brake. It's like it thinks there's a pedestrian or something. Small black dot in the distance, i'll have to watch it on a larger screen.
I love my two Tesla Model 3s, they were purchased in the first year of manufacure. I called Tesla Service the other day to see if there was any solution to my phantom braking problem...they said they weren't really aware of it or any problem like that!! Eh. I don't have full self driving, just enhanced autopilot.
My '22 Mini Cooper SE has camera assisted cruise control and I've noticed phantom breaking with "weird" lightening conditions with the sun (mostly during sunrises and a bit after). It's very annoying.
I don’t see the PB issue on cruise control, so I mostly use it on long drives now. Keep up the good work on the content for the Austin SR.
Thank you. I'm having the phantom breaks even with just cruise control
@@SpokenReviews I would up using just the TACC often as well but my M3P would still phantom brake.
I’ve had several occasions on my trip from Dallas to Galveston. If you’re paying attention and also foot resting on the acc I didn’t feel like it was a huge issue.
Maybe not the same cause but every time I pass by this one exit my MYP will pick up the “Ramp 35mph” sign and start braking from 75 to 35! Very annoying and it’s only that one exit. I also have phantom braking in the city when it picks up the car in the left turn lane. It shows that there are many factors triggering this. Also a huge tesla fan, maybe in a few years or even a decade this tech will get better. Like your content keep it up.
I had PB on my trip from Ohio to Texas on my M3LR. Luckily, no one was around. I tried changing a few settings but it still happened. Then I tried auto pilot with auto steering, for about 20 minutes or so. No occurrence so far. But will experiment further. This is frustrating and disappointing.
Great video. Have the same issue big time. Coming from Volvo I’m greatly disappointed. A huge problem with my Y model 2022. The car also has no real idea what the speed limit is. Sign reading is very limited and map info on that are minimal. I live in Israel. Having said that there are many other issues with the design. No AC in the seats, over heating, wheel design causes curb rash, rough ride and more 😢😢
My old Volven S90 did not have issues with auto seeding. No way. It had sensors in the steering wheel which made holding the wheel much more relaxed. The car knows your holding. Also disconnecting the auto steer and reengaging is done automatically
The yellow road sign shines too bright, was that the cause for that PB? You approach it a few secs later, may be FSD saw the glare too bit sooner?
Is a Tesla worth it without cruise or auto pilot? That's the question. I'm looking at a Y but will not use those features because of the braking.
Check you camera lenses. See if they are dirty or cracked. Also the camera behind the windshield. Also I would recalibrate your cameras. After several updates that might help.
Is this only on autopilot? Disregard. My 2018 accord does similar with ACC. It has radar and freaks out at times. It won’t hit the breaks but just light up an alarm to watch out. I hit he had and power through. I think the tadar gets reflection from road signs overhead.
I made a 3300 mile road trip last week from OKC to the Canadian border in Montana and back. I had numerous phantom braking incidents, however, three or four incidents could've had major issues. For example, I was traveling at 74 mph with cruise control on, and was abruptly slowed to 52 mph. Fortunately, I was on a four lane highway, and did not have a vehicle close enough to cause an accident. One gentlemen I met along the way said that Tesla planned to correct the issue with its next beta. Is that correct?
Random question and very off topic from this. I just noticed random Model Y’s have been stated to no longer support data in the front center console USB-C ports according to the Tesla Model Y owners manual. Could you attempt playing music or connecting a game controller or phone to it please to see if that’s still a thing?
Does this occur at the same spots in the road ever or is it totally random?
I have found PB happens to me about every 30 min, but only when there is nobody in sight. To solve this I try to get behind someone going the speed I prefer, then set cruise a little higher so my Tesla stays the distance I set behind that car. It never happens in this situation.
Does phantom breaking occur with autopilot,FSD engaged or while driving normally without the cruise on? TIA
It does not occur without fsd, cruise control is an extension, or I guess a lesser version of fsd, so it happens if you use any form of the cruise control
It has been my experience that the PB happens on former road repair sites. Is DOT doing something to make this happen? It’s the same in bothTexas and Arizona.
Is only on the Model Y when in self driving or normal driving, does this happen. I haven't experienced this in my Model 3
Is this issue results is about 2 to 4 miles reduction in speed? I don’t see it as major issue. If more than that then it is worrisome. Is that true?
What software version are you on? I am on Version 2022.16.3
How's everything going with your Model Y? They just had one pop up as new in inventory and I ordered it! Model Y Austin built AWD.
Somebody claimed the same thing for New Jersey inventory but I could not see it. Too bad you didn't get a screen shot.
Are you running the latest software? I saw on the forums that the latest update has drastically reduced this.
Wow..greatly reduced that is bullsh*t
Uny update?? Fix??
Just wondering why on earth you have that sticker just below the cameras, could it be the cause!?? Reflections, shadows? I have phantom braking occasionally, not as frequent as you have! ;)
What happened after your service? Is this still happening? Here in AUS, I’ve got a model Y 23 RWD. Have experienced random phantom brakes on new vehicle. Empty roads, clear weather and not sunny so cameras have good view. I’m baffled as to what to do.
I would like to avoid turning off emergency safety features as it defeats the purpose.
Any more videos coming?
Turn on "Forward Collision Warning" to "Early" to see if its detecting anything that's not there.
Guess it won't phantom brake if there are traffic. I noticed it does it when a car leaves the hwy onto an exit or no cars in front of me for a while. Of course, the scary part would be if there was a car behind you.
Glare/shadows etc on the glass I think causes the confusion since it is camera based. You can only temporary disable the emergency braking, it keeps turning it back on. You can't disable it and leave it off. This is dangerous. I have been on the receiving end of the brake check by a Tesla. I am afraid to be behind a Tesla now.
FWIW, my Kia never has PB on the interstate. However, it does on city streets as the radar mistakes a car as being in my lane. Usually around a tight curve or someone coming towards me making a left turn crossing my path. Expect my MY within a month so I appreciate the warning. This will be a deal breaker for my wife if it happens on the interstate.
I love my MY but the phantom braking is bad. Hopefully an update will address this
“Don’t know what it is “it’s a dangerous mess it what it is !
Ludicrous that there’s no serious recall !
Where’s Ralph Nader dammit
I think the only time this will be solved is when the upgraded cameras from Samsung are finally installed by next year or the year after.
This is a good point.
I hope it can be resolved with software before.
You've been away from videos for awhile. You doing ok?
I have had phantom braking every time I use autopilot
2 lane , 2 way. It has happened to me. Nothing that scared me. I’ve only had it happen about 5 times. My Wife’s Toyota Venza. That is equipped with adaptive cruise and forward collision warning does the same. I think all of the Driver Assist products. Do this from time to time. Make sure your windshield and cameras are clean.
It is a very interesting topic. I have a 2021 toyota highlander and have never had it happen in that. We have gone from Dallas to Panama City Florida twice with no issues and have about 24,000 miles on it with no similar issues
@@SpokenReviews My Wife’s Venza is a 2021 as well. We’ve experience the over cautious slowdowns and with the lane assist. It will push the vehicle left or right. When it believes your in a dangerous position. Still a great SUV. We love it.
I traded in a 2019 Civic with 35000km on it for my M3P a month ago and never had a phantom brake incident with it in a little over 3 years. To get something like 50 in 9 days with my Tesla something is definitely up.
I think Spoken Reviews got kidnapped by his car.
I am in Australia and reported phantom breaking 2 years ago and now simply ignore it. I am sick of reporting it to Tesla. Don't know why it's getting airtime only now.
What has Tesla said or done about this? Are they ignoring this? I am close to pulling the trigger and getting a Tesla but, this has me concerned. If you pay for these features, shouldn't they work?
Are you still having the problem?
Don’t report it … good idea. !
Be nice until someone dies due to this issue wow !!!!
That thing should be parked until deemed safe !!
How irresponsible of Tesla !
This is not good :( Even my old 2016 E-Golf doesnt phantom break and has smart cruise control. I have ordered a model Y and I'm waiting for it. I hope tesla will will aknowledge this soon and hopefully it is possible to fix. I thought they were the leader on intelligent cruise control -guess not
No vehicle even around. That system is dangerous and the NHTSA has to shut it down. Until there is a fix.
My model 3 LR PBs just before overtakes when AP is engaged and auto steers with screen warnings and alarms even when all automated features are disabled in settings-Autopilot! I cannot even use Cruise Control! These cars are unsafe and are still being mis-sold.
Nice video. But can you show more of the road as to spot possible causes. Nice video.
Are you seeing this in your Model Y from Giga Texas? He saw the same behavior in 3 Giga Berlin Cars!
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Mate when I first bought my model S 6 years ago never a single phantom break. 2 years ago, constant phantom breaking on my model S. I rang Tesla 4 times and they always spin bullshit. Worst company to deal with ever. They just lie. I love my car, I HATE TESLA THE COMPANY.
Why doesn't Tesla address this issue? Also, I see all these fanboys extolling FSD on city streets, but completely ignoring this problem. This is a major failing of FSD.
It may be due to the software that relies only on vision. My old model S has radar as well as vision. With the new software updates I suspect they turned off my radar. I'm not sure and cannot get a straight answer from anyone. Again, TESLA, WORST COMPANY TO DEAL WITH. But I love my model S. It's a great car which USED to be better, 5 years ago due to the current crap software
keep talking like it's an easily fixable problem 👎
I have an appointment on Friday for Mobil Service. I will see what they say. If nothing can be done I'm just going to disable the automatic braking feature
Buy a real car.
Phantom breaking pay attention to MPH speed limit causes the car to slow down instantly including learning it’s environments
If you want it fixed Report it to NHTSA. TSLA has had years to fix this.