How I Install my Transducers for HIGH SPEED PERFORMANCE. Airmar 275. Airmar 150. Chirp CHIRP
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- How to install a Transducer to see fish and bait schools at higher speeds. Today’s sonar is a far cry from what it was just 10 years ago, this is how I mount my Transducers to Mark Stripers at 30-40mph.
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I run my transducers lower in the water, and angled down on the trailing edge as well. I tried what the manufacturers recommend for mounting the transom mount transducers, but I always lost bottom on plane. Lowered them down, and tilted them back, and I don’t loose bottom any more on plane. I can even do structure scan up to about 20mph. You have to go with what works for your hull. I know it is not what the manufacturers recommend, but it works! Great videos Mike!
Kevin E Hendges Yes Sir! Thanks for the comment brother!
So how should I mount the garmin uhd93sv transducer on my 91 206 cobalt single screw i/o
I know it's an Old vid. but it was very helpful. I am going to my boat right now and making adjustments! Thanks again.
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Great channel! Best SIMRAD sonar info on RUclips.
C'mom man !!! All those old holes need to sanded and counter sunk and filled with west system epoxy, add some fiber filler and mix it till it's like peanut butter. And I could be wrong but I don't see any 5200 Sealant anywhere. Your transom won't rot if take some time now....happy boating.
High Velocity Good advice for most, but this is a different situation. I pop Transducers off and on regularly, sometimes daily, since I’m a tester. I use clear sealer because the boat is blue, and the transom has no wood and cannot rot. Thanks for the comment brother!
Crazy is good sometimes .....agressive tactics love it ...fish on
Yes sir. 😁
Awesome, aggressive setup is the way to go. Thanks Mike for your tips and knowledge. Always appreciated 👍
Richard Quintero thanks brother!!!
You can get a spray shield designed for the 275 that stops the spray and rooster tail. Keeps it from spraying your engine.
Great information. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome info! Thanks!!
Great video on the SI transducer mount. This is exactly what I've been looking for. I'm adding a Hummingbird MEGA+ sometime this week and have been wondering if it should be above or below. Almost everything else I found is for slow speed operation and I'm in the same boat as you with needing high speed pickup. Between this and the Motorguide video you are really helping me out. I also like your videos live lining for striper.
Thanks brother!
Nice, thanks for posting this. The instructions for the transducers really have very little detail.
You got it brother!! Thanks!!
Man, this is awesome, I am setting up something similar. Can you do a video about the applications of the 3 transducer?
Thanks brother. I can do that. 👍👍
Thank you sir……is it possible to mount a transducer on a traditional artisan west African canoe 🛶
Gold Mike Smedley 👍
I have been thinking of turning my 3&1 transducer around like you have can you talk more on that. I have been told more pixels toward the cable end of the transducer, any truth to that.. Thanks
Thanks for this video. My fish finder just flashes and stops reading when I am underway. Its annoying. I will try lowering mine. I have been fighting it a long time.
That’s definitely frustrating. Lowering it should help in most cases.
I’m getting ready to install a new total scan transducer. Think I’m going to get aggressive and install it more into the water instead of parallel with the bottom like you’ve done.
terry mise Go for it brother!
What brand of underwater lights are you using ?
Hey Mike - really appreciate all these videos. I had been struggling to get my setup right. Your tips really helped with my Garmin so they are nearly universal!
Question - I am about to setup a second transducer for side and down scan. I put in a lot of effort to keep the chirp transducer away from electrical wiring and when installing the new one I will as well. Is there any issue with running two or more transducer cables together? Can’t seem to find any info on this.
Frequencies are much different.
Thanks!!!
That’s one of those mystical problems that cripple some systems and has zero affect on others. These CHIRP transducers are so efficient and so well made that you don’t see this issue much anymore. My wires are all bundled close together and I have zero problems. In fact I have 5 transducers on my boat for testing right now and I run up to 4 at a times with no noise at all. I don’t know much about Garmin though. 👍
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS I ran it last weekend and it seems fine like that. I’ll keep an eye on it.
Caught a few Rock on Roanoke Rapids Lake using planer boards and had birds diving everywhere.
Really appreciate the videos. Been a great help!
@@christophermihans5846 that’s awesome!! Keep me posted brother!
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS will do!!
Hey Mike, I want to add a airmar transducer to my simrad evo 2, you recommend a Tm 185. Is that a HW or what model? I’m also adding 3D structure scan. Can I just add the transducer with my existing unit and then install the structure scan. Would that be acceptable?
Thanks for the video! Question, are you picking up fish on side imaging at high speeds? I’m debating if I want to install a 3 in 1 low and angled down to read on plane, or higher to be protected and sitting level at trolling speeds. Other youtubers claim level transducers are key to getting great side images, but it seems like that’s not the case since your side images look awesome.
Also, great tip about potential cavitation if you put the three in one at the lowest point of the hull in front of a motor. That’s where I was thinking of installing mine. My outboard is on a large bracket off the back of the boat though, so do you think I’d still have cavitation issues if there’s a foot or two of separation between the transducer and motor?
Cavitation issues have been pretty rare for me, in fact it only happened on this boat and not others, so I wouldn’t have any fear mounting that low on other boats. I test for Airmar and Simrad. I use up to 8 transducers at a time while testing. I have never once in my 49 years put a level on a transducer. Honestly. Tilt the following edge down a touch lower than the leading and you will probably see results like mine. 👍. I see Crystal clear side scan anywhere from 20-30mph depending on how much I tilt the transducer. I see readable side scan even higher. 👍👍👍
Thanks, I’ll try that out then. It would be sweet to see a video of you using side scan on plane. I’m guessing you’d mainly be able to see large structure or maybe big schools of fish when you’re going that fast
@@FishStalker777 check out any videos that start with us running. Side scan will up on at least one panel. If I’m really LOOKING for bait with side scan I will stay at around 20 -22 mph.
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS I looked at a bunch of your videos, but couldn’t find any showing side scan when you on plane. I did see your video on cheap remote boat alarms though, and I’m getting one of them now, so thanks
Mike, two questions, are you running two transducers for one unit?
Also does the engines lower unit interfere with the side scan?
That's tweaking it and I would love to see a video showing your brave results just so I know how brave I might get LOL
Thanks brother!!👍👍. Check out any of my sonar videos. I leave my transducers like this always. You can see how they work.
Great video… do all these go to 3 different units?
Thanks. No, they are networked so each unit can pick any transducer at any time. 👍👍
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How many Watt is that 275L/HW TFANSDUSER
Do you recommend spacing the 2d transducer and structure ducer on opposite sides of the boat? Used boat I purchased has them side by side and I believe its causing my prop to cavitate at speed
If you use overlays and fish reveal a lot you want them close together, but if you’re having cavitation problems you can spread them out.
Hi Mike.
For the Evo3S and TM275LHW, which colour ports at rear of unit for HF and LF cable installs?
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Is their any way of checking the 3 in 1 transducer to see if its working correctly out of water or how would you know if you have a bad one..
James Shortall out of water you will hear it clicking but don’t run it too long dry. It can overheat.
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS sound thanks for the reply so if I hear no clicking it could be gone bad..
I got my 3n1 Mounted in same spot but on the other side of my 228 where should i mount the 150 ? Should it be on the right side?
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Just wondering about your drain outflow. I do not see the rubber flap thing? Is it not needed?
It depends on what year model you have. Sea Pro has since added 2 deck drains that each have a flapper. The single large drain doesn’t really need one since it only drains the boxes and wells. 👍
I just got a tm150 but realistically should I have got the hw one for local nc striper lakes?
I prefer the HW, but the 150M is an epic little transducer.
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS decent in shallow water ?
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS I guess I should have said the 165 hw
@@chrislayton5404 yes. They are both great in shallow water. I would go with the 165 over the 150 if it’s in your budget. but you can’t go wrong with either.
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS I already have the 150 but have yet to install thanks for the reply
On my race boat I'll have to put a extension one foot into the water cause I'll be flying. First one to the fish right? Am joking.
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Thanks for the video, so should I level the transducer with the bottom of the boat or with the water line when the boat is moving ( the engine running causing the front of the boat lifting up) ?
Did you ever figure this out ? If I set up for setting in the water, it’ll be different when up on plane. I’m trying to figure this out.
Unrelated but looks like you've got the limited room 4x12 inch lenco trim tabs on there. I was considering getting those specifically because I have a quick release ladder mount bracket back there that I still want to have and I might be able to get away with not having to remove it if I go with those 4" trim tabs. Do you think I'd be ok? My boats only 14' but I know with the 9x9's I wouldnt be able to still use the ladder
These tabs are incredible! They will absolutely bury the bow if you’re not careful. Seriously. They are excellent!
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS Wow, i would think the smaller size would have less of that effect than the 9x9s. Do you think I could still use the ladder bracket or would the tabs be in the way still?
Seriously brother. I had a buddy drive and he held them both down too long and almost killed us! They are very strong. As long as they can come all the way up without hitting the bracket I’m sure you will be fine. I rarely set to more than 2 or 3 lights in rough water.
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS Woah, good to know. My 14' panga skiff weighs only around 1000 lbs and I know panga's are bow-high riding boats but when I go straight into a chop it could really use the more forward V to cut through the waves better. Really uncomfortable ride. I think I'm gonna give those a go though because I really like the compact profile specially on a small boat like mine.
I think they will work beautifully on that boat
Hi Mike. I see you using trim tabs? Do they also eliminate leaning?
Brakkeleer Thuis They are great for a few things. They eliminate mis-loading when you have big boys onboard 😉. Just touch a switch and the boat rides level. They are awesome for rough water too, I can plane at slower speeds for a much more comfortable ride in slop. My boat rides very level, but If you have a boat with bad bow rise when starting to plane they are great for that too. 👍👍
Hello how are you can you give me some pointers on installing my truck 24 foot flatbottom Carolina Armen sure 70for the transducer looks just like the one that you have on the port side of your boat very long and hard getting the transducer to track at high speeds it will not read correctly so I should just have the transducer only 1/2 inch in the water at high speed below the haull
Bayard Taylor Flat bottom boats are notoriously difficult to Mark at higher speeds. My buddy has a similar boat and he made a simple and somewhat crude bracket out of some galvanized angle steel. It pushes the transducer completely below the water line with the following edge slightly lower than the leading edge (like in this video). It puts up a rooster tail, but he can run 30+ mph and mark fish no problem. That’s what I would try. 👍👍
Mike Smedley wow. Do you have a picture
Try epoxy to hull inside will be the same without drag
Does it matter where you glue the inner hull transducers?
I'd like to mount an in hull transducer so I don't have to drill any holes in my cobalt boat.
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i have a question. My tranducer used to work just fine for years. under 5 MPH now its fine but once i get on plane it flickers on and off non stop shows disconnected under way. any ideas?
It may have kicked up slightly or has some Marine growth. Try lowering it slightly and cleaning the bottom with soap and water.
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Will transducer shoot through fiberglass. In the bilge
If the signal will shoot through your hull depends on a lot of variables. It must be solid fiberglass with no core or air pockets. The frequency of the transducer and hull thickness will also determine if it will shoot through. Side imaging will not work in hull, but traditional (2D) sonar and Chirp does work with an in hull transducer in some cases. The best thing to do is contact someone who does these Installations in your area and discuss the details with them, or check with some other people with the same type of boat as yours and find out if any of them have successfully used an in hull in their boat, as every type of boat is different. Hope this info helps.
If you want to ask a lot of your transducer you don’t get transom Mount.
I see what you’re saying and you’d be right in many cases, but I don’t agree on all points. I can set my transducers to do many things that thru-hulls can’t do, i can also swap them out in an hour. Side scan transducers are pretty bad in thru-hull designs in many ways. I HAVE 2 thru-hulls on my boat because they are optimum for my hull design and situation but many boats can’t use them and they are difficult to upgrade and replace. Stepped hulls,cats and flat bottom skiffs can really struggle to fit and even get performance out of thru hulls.
Do you like to mount your transducer aggressively ? :)
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What kind of under water lights are those brother
Not sure of the brand, I’ll check with Sea Pro tomorrow. 👍👍👍
Ok thank you
Hey. I have simrad evo 3. And 3 & 1 transducer. I lose all dept over like 15 mph. Do you know what I need to do ? Is it possible to keep dept reading at 46 to 50 mph ? Thanks.
It once worked great but replaced my transducer in the same exact spot with same transducer. Just trying to adjust it correctly.
Sure. I mark fish that fast everday out brother! Start by lowering the back of your transducer 1/8”. Keep going more and more until it works at high speeds. If you have to go more than 1/2” lower the entire transducer in the same increments. As long as there are no obstructions in front of it this should work fine. Thanks!!🙏🙏👍
Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.
@@brandonstill7229 my pleasure brother!! I appreciate your support!🙏🙏👍😁
I find that my 3d transducer acts as trim tab and lifts the one side of my boat when on plane because it's so large. Guess there isn't really any way to avoid it with my setup. I'm having trouble getting anything out of my transducers when on plane at any speed. I'll have to try your method.
heyttsguy wow. I’m guessing you have no room to move it closer to the keel, if not you can actually find cheap “for parts” total Scan and 3D transducers online. If all else fails you can install one of these busted transducers opposite of the one you are using to at least level out the boat. I know that sounds funny but that would drive me nuts if one side rose over the other. Hopefully there is some way to squeeze it closer to the keel.
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS I prob could switch it with my sonar transducer. The problem being is I have a pod in the center and if the 3D transducer got kicked up it would hit the pod. I'll have to consider it. I thought maybe I could also adjust one of the trim tabs so that at level it's actually trimmed down/up to compensate for the transducer.
Would your method work for inboard engines as well?
I have had transom mounts work well on I/O,s, but i have never personally tried them on an In-board. I would imagine it would be quite difficult. You would probably have to stay as far away from the keel as possible, which is the opposite of these installations. Sorry, I wish I could help more
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS does simrad have a through hull totalscan?
Rich Conolly Yes Sir.
@@MikeSmedleyOLDSCHOOLSTRIPERS I might do that then. Replace my old furuno with the simrad. Looking for an all in 1 hub. Radar, sounder, GPS...
Simrad has it all brother, Go to BOE Marine. They have the best customer service.
I have the same transducer. At around 25mph it stop reading depth is that normal. I have relocated it three different times. Any advice. Thanks.
If you lose bottom entirely I would lower the following edge down a bit. This increases water pressure against the transducer’s bottom face. If that doesn’t fix it, lower the entire transducer an 1/8” at a time until you hold bottom.
Also depending on your transducer, mine loses signal in rough water and clicks out of the swing mounting bracket. Usually when I come off of plane it clicks back in. I have a humminbird helix on my bay boat.
Hey Mike can you contact me on this topic. I'm trying to find you on fb but both my wife and myself aren't finding your page.
Shoot me an email mikesmedley9@gmail.com. I’ve been off Facebook for quite a while now. Watching all of the negativity over there was bringing me down. Had to jump ship 🤪.
Why. Do. U. Have. Three fish finders
Bayard Taylor I test Transducers for Airmar and Multifunction Displays for Simrad.
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Well said!
That was aggressive ...... and not everyone can handle that kind of aggression, and if want to be aggressive, you need to be ready to get aggressive and exercise your aggression. I know it's aggressive, but if your intent is to be aggressive, then get aggressive.
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