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There seem to be a few points of distortion in the video, not just the thematically appropriate ones, hope you're not having technical difficulties. Happy New Years, Worm Girl!
“There’s a lot of garbage in this world, but world is not garbage” - This quote is perfect. Never thought I need Lisa:The Pointless to understand something. Thanks for incredible video. Good luck!
This game has such an optimistic view in such a depressing world. Everywhere you look there's people who gave up completely during the flash. People settling and accepting things will never get better on garbage island, and the gamesters and bystanders who immediately jump ship to something new when the red and green start to influence downtown. Alex and Joel show us that everyone has their own story no matter who you are. It may be pointless, but there's a "point" in "pointless". Sotws was a genius love letter to Lisa the Pointless. Where the original didn't do a very good job establishing the setting, mainly in downtown, sotws was perfect and fixed any issues it had.
No idea why “Bullets are replaceable. You are not.” got me so hard, but this game (+ set of mods) has a way of drawinf unexpected emotion from its player. Man. Great video.
I mean... Maybe Joel searched for the bullet for a vert long time, but he seeked for a friend way longer in a world of pure violence. That line really goes hard, it's so simple, but at the same time so poetic within the game context.
just wanted to let u know that these videos are freakin sweet and ive watched those fear and hunger ones like 3 times over each so this was quite the pleasant surprise
Actually, as a matter of fact, you can beat Hugo. Particularly, in the infinity route. If you disarm him when he takes the knife. You face off with him, and end him, Alex taking severe wounds. You continue, kill the infinitized desert group, face off against elephante, te one who made the gun, kill a the mutant on the car, and face downtown, ending on an even worse note.
Oh interesting! I hadn't seen that one. I know there's also a way to do it on a non-infinity run where Alex and Joel wind up running from him and you have a horror chase sequence in the tunnels. I was stretched really thin by the end of that Infinity route though. It took me several attempts just to beat Jason and the other guys, I couldn't put a dent in Sylvester or the phone guy, and I probably wouldn't have been able to beat Hugo.
@@mutantwormgirlyup, he is basically even more jacked up but he lacks one component which made it so great for me. If you played he game basically peefectly before Hugo you'd just smack him around till he dies. I recommend not even bothering and try 2nd fold.
Only possible in Infinity Unfolds AFAIK (another fan mod) in main SOTWS you always lose to Hugo (except on the infinity route I think) and you die at the bus stop regardless he mixed the two up@@mutantwormgirl
It is regarded among the Lisa community that Unfolds is a poor addition to Scholar Of The Wilbur Sin and even base Lisa the Pointless. With many unnecessary/poor changes to the story and game play, music "borrowed" from the Monster Update, and even stolen assets from people within the community that are... not good people to say the least, I don't want to start drama. I highly suggest to disregard anything from this add-on and either play base Lisa the Pointless or base Scholar.
@@atpsoldat6108 Infinity Unfolds's changes feel a little less thoughtful than SotWS, but I think overall it adds so much stuff that it's hard not to recommend it.
@@atpsoldat6108 i mostly prefer infinity unfolds because it actually fixes most of the crashes in this game. And yeah i think attack moves really do kinda ruin the point of it (the gun whip animation is hilariously stupid) but at the same time it makes atleast some sense from logical perspective. Also finger gun despite being choppy actually looks good and isn't just straight up damage and rather applies debuffs which just fit the criteria for him! But i can still understand why most people wouldn't want him to be able to dish out consistent damage
I found your channel shortly after my mom passed away and you're able to pull a thread of optimism out of all of these depressing worlds. Your final thoughts in this video hit exactly on the head of what I've been struggling with pretty much all my life. There's some powerful validation in hearing you put into words what I've been struggling to verbalize.
Big thanks for making this, and showing off Pointless to a wide studio audience. This is a little nitpicky, but Anaconda's tracks both make reference to works by Julius Evola. "Ride the Anaconda" with "Ride the Tiger", and "Modern Day Ouroboros" originally being called "Revolt Against the Modern Day Ouroboros", referencing "[...] the Modern World". There's also some scattered references to Chinese warlord Zhang Xianzhong, which are important for the game's message. Love your work.
Man, Pointless has always been a fascinating fan game for me. It does such a unique take in the same setting Austin Jorgensen established, but with SOTWS you really just get this vibe to it that no other lisa project can really replicate. Its why ive fallen in love with these fan games, and god damn can i not wait to see what lisa fans bring to the table with this stuff
Also, just wanted to add: Loved the SS13 reference in the video, had me laughing especially knowing SpaceHippie was a prominent lisa creator as well as a ss13 creator And also, are there any future plans in covering other Lisa fan games? IE Downtown's Mechanic when it finishes up, or Lisa the Fool? Either way, great video, I will use this as an excuse to recruit others into enjoying Lisa as a series
@@jutpian It's sort of a weird high-effort shitpost? Your first party member is the balloon that stops you from walking off the ledge after Terry. It's funny if only for the amount of genuine effort put into the art, music and gameplay. It's worth at least watching the trailer for it.
The use of 8 by the Infinity Franchise might be partially in reference to Khorne, the Warhammer god of blood and indiscriminate violence, as 8 is his sacred number
Absolutely fantastic video essay as always! Here's a few fun things about the mod I found: - The conversation with Milo the Yoga Master actually changes if you have low kills and he will actually allow you to leave the yoga studio if you do so, allowing you to spare him. He wholesomely wishes the both of Alex and Joel good luck on their journey to find a better place. - You can actually head back to the marauders village, but you'll see that everyone has turned into skeletons or has died, including the village elder. The man next to the village elder is still there, and he mentions that "nothing has happened here for decades." Alex mentions that it hasn't been that long since they visited and the man will mention that it has been 30 years, showing that the passage of time is truly warped in Olathe. - There is a 'witch' doctor you can find in Downtown Olathe, which will let you purchase a trauma kit for 100 mags. By doing so, you can avoid the fight with Carmac entirely. If you enter the shack, Alex will politely leave instead. - If you obtain all of Joel's tactics pages and read the tactics book again, you can get a special skill! - There is a bench that Alex can infinitely rest at in a cave near where the kid's playground is. There is a small flashback you can get, involving Alex and Chie as kids. - On the 2nd fold, you can actually avoid Hugo stabbing Alex by dodging or disarming him. I have a video on my account of the Hugo fight as well. This doesn't change the ending, but it does change the outcome of Alex and changes the dialogue. - There is a Joel bond system, where specific actions you do will add or decrease his bond points. If you don't act friendly towards Joel and have a negative bond near the end of the game when Hugo states that Joel will not hurt him, instead of attempting to shoot, Joel will simply just point his gun down. - You can feed the fish jerky and it will in turn cause it to get stronger and give you new moves. The fish will also make comments if you interact with it every now and then, saying things like "It seems to like Geen". However, if you reach the 3rd fold, interacting with it will simply give the dialogue "it is afraid of you." - If you defeat Arnold and the army of infinity people in the 3rd fold, there's a special fight and event that occurs afterwards. I won't spoil it but it's definitely something. A trick is to use play dead and throw bottles as enemies will miss their attacks on Joel, even if he's the only one left. Thank you again for the great video Worm Girl!
Does anything more happen with Georgy? He took the joy pill in the video, but after that he's never mentioned again, is he a joy addict, does he turn into a mutant, or can you not find him again?
@@snitcharoothe8994 nope, he can have withdrals apperently, but its something so rare that i only saw it once on a single fight, georgey is just a bad party member with nothing really intresting aside from a few small moments, Darry is 100× better lol
i like how despite dumping a whole lot of info in here theres still *SO MUCH* more thats it isnt even a stretch to say theres still like 60% of hidden/missed content even with this overview and this coment how much content there
After some searching done, it shows that Georgy's based on a joy mutant in Lisa the Painful, that you have to fight to get one of the many party members. He is a joy addict as he gets the withdraw affect, and steals something valuable from Alex (unless equipped, and is replaced by the gear he starts with) to sell for mags and to then buy joy, as this is the time where you can see the joy dealer at the inn (in olathea) which is the last time you see him.@@togeluga_the_cat
34:49 You can save them! You can buy a vase from the village before the desert and fill it with water in the nearby spring. Put the fishman in the vase and that should protect it from the heat. Edit: Oh, you covered that, sorry! >~
1:39:16 the real shit im here for. Love the message. Reckless optimism and interdependence needs to be uplifted. Y'all take care of yourselves and each other. Today and tomorrow can be better if we make it that way.
Love how Pointless fucks with the player with Alex' fighting style. People expect that it's like Armstrong Style- a somewhat viable self defence martial style - just to have a rug pulled from under'em when it's revealed that it's both fake in real world and in world of the fiction. I recall that in the fight with Competitor you had a "secret attack option" after second fail- you still would fail, but now by a foul play not by just trying a fake martial art against a real one. Also, I swear to god if the kids are a Lord of the Flies reference Plus quite interestinggly- in Pointless (Scholar of Willbur Sin and Infinity Unfolds version that is) the Franchise seems to be a "replacement" for Joy. Just like it it gives the adicts (this time followers of the idea) a way to feel nothing, or far more- feel like they are better than they really are. Makes the world of Lisa that bit more complex- there is far more places where people loose themselves after dispair hits.
You really put a lot of good work into your script. The usage of vocabulary flowed super well, and decisively communicated the aspects of Pointless that were always tough for me to put my finger on. Very engaging!
This video is like the game she reviewed... Jam packed with quality... Also my headcanon is the second ending... It's the one i personally is the more realistic considering how Alex is He was a bully who mellowed out with age but the world has changed so much that being overly nice will help others but, in the end, will not help when someone is out for blood And Alex doesn't strike me as a harmless man but he's also not a deranged killer without remorse Sometimes the only way to survive is fighting for your life and, in some cases, taking life is the only way to keep survivng As the saying goes: You can't call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you are not capable of violence, you are not peaceful, you're harmless. Important distinction. (Sorry for the big comment but i really liked the video)
In the OG Pointless, Alex strikes me as someone who seen it all and won’t hesitate to fight back if the need arise. He’s chummy with Joel, but he’s nowhere near as friendly to strangers as SotWS makes him out to be. Basically, if it was OG Alex that dealt with Gunter Scrouge, he will kill the other old man if it escalate.
The last route is sad. Alex didn't have the best upbringing. He was influenced by factors out of his control, his poverty, his consistent lack of responsible adults. But it was *his* life, the unique set of circumstances that had led to that moment. And the Franchise took that away from him and replaced it with nothing but endless anger driven to lash out against everything and everyone with no particular sense or point, leaving him nothing but a withered husk by the end.
It feels endlessly cathartic to see a mod of a mod of a fangame get this much attention. Having been a long term LISA fan that's experienced most of the main fangames and fanmods, it feels like you said, that some of these'll end up being buried in obscurity after The Monster Update comes out. So genuinely, thank you for covering Pointless and it's main fanmods, they really deserved the attention after all the effort the devs and community put into them. I hope you end-up covering Timeless and Unbreakable eventually. Regardless, cheers for the constant goated tier videos, it's always a pleasure to sit down and watch (and REWATCH) these bangers.
Your essays of f&h 1 and 2 have become a reliable good night ritual that never fails to relax me. The first Lisa video is great too. And so I am very happy to have another video to obsess over. I might just be your greatest fan. Or at least one of them :)
i REALLY like your more analytical approach to discussing this game. lisa the pointless, and sotws in particular, have a ton of emotional depth to them that most people just gloss over (which, understandable, there's a lot to gush over and the game makes very little attempt to drive its themes in). like, i've barely seen anyone discuss the connection the Franchise has to real-world hate groups, and you're the only person who's approached it from the perspective of it being a thematic element. just really great stuff all around. gonna go back and watch your other analysis videos (starting witb the one on hopeful) now, and i'll definitely stick around for future uploads, whatever they be :]
i keep rewatching this video, its introduced me to one of my favorite games right now. it helps me just chill out, so thank you for all of that! keep making analysis videos, your voice was made for them lol.
It’s not just that the games may have incredible stories to tell, or that the mechanics may be unique, but your narration that gives them a life of their own. I look forward to each of these videos because aside from the amazing storytelling, you can tell when one of those moments of unfathomable depth and wisdom in your words is coming. You can’t help but smile as your voice delivers those lines wrap up such complicared topics in what feels like a nice neat bow. The storytelling is out of this world, thank you for sharing it with us! Can’t wait for the next one!
A little something to add to the tournament sequence Alex adversary in the tournament is a master of AIKIDO a martial art that focuses heavily on defence and control of the flow with almost no offensive move so it is a hard counter for an amateur fighter like Alex AS he cannot bait attack or break the stence of his adversary like he probably was familar with small fry adversaries in local tournaments
tho, kinda ironically Aikido doesn’t have a great reputation in the martial arts world ‘cuz it has a lot of mystic woo attached to it, and doesn’t perform too well in pressure tests. it’s also fairly modern, if you count post-WW1 as modern!
@@oscaranderson5719generally speaking ww1 is more or less thought to be the dawn of the modern era with modern not necessarily meaning new, jazz is usually considered modern music and the genre is a little over a century old at this point. As for aikido I’ve heard so take it with a grain of salt that “stress tested” aikido tends to look and perform very similar to judo/jiujitsu which makes sense as they are both Japanese in origin and jiujitsu being japans premier grappling system.
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51:44 It always seemed to me that this trace of himself was left by Hugo himself, who passed by. I had no idea that Carmack actually stole the Medkit from him.
You covering Pointless was cool enough, but the fact that you’re talking about SotWS and Infinity Unfolds as well is even more exciting! The mod “ecosystem” surrounding Pointless is something really cool I haven’t seen anywhere else, so I’m looking forward to your analysis. Thanks for all the great content thus far!
I am a huge fan of long form video essays, and I’ve gotta say: yours are some of my favorites. Both your scriptwriting and speaking voice are excellent. I’ve never played any of the games you’ve discussed, but I would watch these regardless of what they’re about. Great work!!
I keep coming back to this video. It's so entertaining and fascinating on its own. It's one of my favorite videos on this site. Thank you for your work on it!
YOU HAVE A SPONSOOOOR IM SO HAPPY dude dude i love your channel so much, your writing and narrating is amazing and i love the subject you pick. im am SO SO happy that you can do this as a full time job now! stay as long as you like! i'll be there to watch your videos everytime!
lisa the pointless has some of thr best intentional and accidental gsme design especially the way the combo system is used i love the combo system because it lets to change your skill mid turn so you can change what skill you do in reaction to what happened so far in the turn which is why you cant so a combo for alexs best moves for reacting to enemys like disarming chop and dodge and all of the combo moves like throat slit and painted red comboing with statuses it adds so many layers to the combat not to mention the amazing world building especially in downtown the way arnold is introduced instantly shows off his power and his personality though his lack of selebration or change in his expression and its not too dissimilar to the way pyramid head is introduced in silent hill 2 the way the infinity franchise is built up is amazing i also love the way alex is introduded and how the player can instantly connect to him because anyone would want to get off garbage island these are the reasons why this is my favorite rpg and why im thankful this video exists since its really the only video about this games lore infinity unfolds specifically
I would love to see a video of the original lisa in this format. I only have a switch but your videos and storytelling made me go buy the definitive edition and I'm gonna jump in on it tomorrow on my day off lol
"As a mentally ill person myself, I think it would actually be tight as hell." is the most fucking absurd shit I have ever read and I'm not going to give 10$ to the ghost of the LOWEST tax of them all (approx 6 feet underground) to say that it's very funny.
Hey a new lore video, one of my favorites! And with the themes of nihilism, a spot to drop one of my favorite passages from a novel: Even if I fail in the end and obtain nothing, even if my life was a complete failure, so what? Even if my research is meaningless, so what? That is what I want to do! You can call me crazy, you can call me an idiot, you can call me stubborn, you can call me stupid… Alright. I am crazy, I am an idiot, I am stubborn and also stupid. But I… still want to do it regardless! That is how I want to live! That is how I can find meaning in my life!
You've quickly turned into one of my favourite creators through your coverage of the Lisa series and F&H. Thanks for the kind words, uplifting messages, and the countless hours of work that must go into all of these.
FANTASTIC video. Thank you for providing such an excellent read on Pointless! I swear I watched some gameplay of an incomplete version of Pointless forever ago, and never got to enjoy what a sprawling tangle it had become. Fantastic.
Great video once again, I played OG Pointless but never finished Scholar or saw the other mod so it was cool to see them. Had a recent death in the family, so it was nice to have something fun for a little while. Hope you keep it up, if you keep having games you want to talk about.
I really like your deep dives into lisa fan games. It’s a real niche and i hope you do other games like vegaful or oblivious cause the fan worlds of olathe are so intersting
I noticed that you read alot of the comments here so I just wanted to say that I love your videos! They are incredible and your soothing voice makes them even better. I am looking forward to more videos.
I enjoy the way you tell the story in these videos. It’s like listening to a campfire story. That’s how organic it all sounds. Look forward to the next one.
the quality of your videos is so lovely!! the little banner that tells you what music is playing and the creative liberties of what you explain is happening is just so engaging..! this is exactly why ive seen most of your "what happens in" videos more times than i care to count
Fun fact:when you do the second fold but don't continue into the third, and have Joel, you actually have a chance to beat Hugo, just gotta dodge the scalpel attack, stun, or disarm him, then you can have him killed without anything lost [besides lots of health]
Your channel is extremely underrated. You are the only person whose hour+ long videos I am willing to watch without distracting myself. I hope to see more and more.
17:48 Is that Dio in the sims 4 by Joel Vinesauce? Under a video of a mod of a mod of a fangame that I've played to death during my entire high school carreer? For once in my life I finally feel at home
Just on a whim, I thoughtt "I haven't seen a Worm Girl vid in a while, lets see if there's any new one." Lo and behold, a brand new video, fresh from today! Hells ya
holyshit thanks so much for making this genuinely this is my favorite lisa anything and I'm so glad you made this video my favorite story summery channel makes a video on one of my favorite rpgs ever its late but one of the best Christmas gifts ever
Hi wormie sorry for going missing for months, been burnt out for too long, added the rest of your back catalogue to watch on a playlist to get through over (hopefully this weekend) Hope you had a good Chrissy and and have an awesome New Year and a best possible 2024, Year of the Dragon 👍💪💪🍻
Thanks for bringing us another brutal but fascinating story that I'd never be able to play on my own. I found I was also really digging the music so now I've got some new tracks in my playlists. Land and Nightmare Bile such jams. Thanks for including those, too!
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There seem to be a few points of distortion in the video, not just the thematically appropriate ones, hope you're not having technical difficulties. Happy New Years, Worm Girl!
wake up babe worm girl posted a new retrospective of a mentally insane game
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NO YOU BEAT ME TO IT SHIT
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(Crawls out from under the bed)
I just woke up, can I watch with y’all!!?
I just had to do one of the iconic comments for a dungeon synth video and i was very pressed about the grammar it was all on me
“There’s a lot of garbage in this world, but world is not garbage” - This quote is perfect. Never thought I need Lisa:The Pointless to understand something. Thanks for incredible video. Good luck!
This game has such an optimistic view in such a depressing world. Everywhere you look there's people who gave up completely during the flash. People settling and accepting things will never get better on garbage island, and the gamesters and bystanders who immediately jump ship to something new when the red and green start to influence downtown. Alex and Joel show us that everyone has their own story no matter who you are. It may be pointless, but there's a "point" in "pointless".
Sotws was a genius love letter to Lisa the Pointless. Where the original didn't do a very good job establishing the setting, mainly in downtown, sotws was perfect and fixed any issues it had.
Considering ive recently given up on the idea of things getting better, this came in just in time
So THATS the "Pointless" part of Lisa the Pointless...
…Either drowning in garbage, or becoming a mindless killer...
No idea why “Bullets are replaceable. You are not.” got me so hard, but this game (+ set of mods) has a way of drawinf unexpected emotion from its player. Man. Great video.
I mean... Maybe Joel searched for the bullet for a vert long time, but he seeked for a friend way longer in a world of pure violence. That line really goes hard, it's so simple, but at the same time so poetic within the game context.
just wanted to let u know that these videos are freakin sweet and ive watched those fear and hunger ones like 3 times over each so this was quite the pleasant surprise
Was I supposed to read the “freakin sweet” in Peter griffins voice
Same, I've watched the Termina vid a solid 5 times lol
@@chadgoose7886 you should read everything like that and go insane
was about to post the exact same x)
The termina one is seriously so insanely rewatchable, the most horrible show in the world made approachable
Your ability to frame a story and its themes has provided me many hours of entertainment over long night shifts.
Thank you.
Thank you so much! I'm glad I can help.
Actually, as a matter of fact, you can beat Hugo. Particularly, in the infinity route.
If you disarm him when he takes the knife. You face off with him, and end him, Alex taking severe wounds. You continue, kill the infinitized desert group, face off against elephante, te one who made the gun, kill a the mutant on the car, and face downtown, ending on an even worse note.
Oh interesting! I hadn't seen that one. I know there's also a way to do it on a non-infinity run where Alex and Joel wind up running from him and you have a horror chase sequence in the tunnels.
I was stretched really thin by the end of that Infinity route though. It took me several attempts just to beat Jason and the other guys, I couldn't put a dent in Sylvester or the phone guy, and I probably wouldn't have been able to beat Hugo.
@@mutantwormgirlyup, he is basically even more jacked up but he lacks one component which made it so great for me. If you played he game basically peefectly before Hugo you'd just smack him around till he dies. I recommend not even bothering and try 2nd fold.
Only possible in Infinity Unfolds AFAIK (another fan mod)
in main SOTWS you always lose to Hugo (except on the infinity route I think) and you die at the bus stop regardless
he mixed the two up@@mutantwormgirl
It is regarded among the Lisa community that Unfolds is a poor addition to Scholar Of The Wilbur Sin and even base Lisa the Pointless. With many unnecessary/poor changes to the story and game play, music "borrowed" from the Monster Update, and even stolen assets from people within the community that are... not good people to say the least, I don't want to start drama. I highly suggest to disregard anything from this add-on and either play base Lisa the Pointless or base Scholar.
agreed but no@@numnaut1314
LISABROS, IT WAS NEVER EVEN OVER!!
It is in fact still happening and we are so back that we never actually left.
Can we agree that Joel is probably the best gimmick companion in all of rpgs? I live to be as cool as Joel
They should teach Alex and Joel in game design classes. The mechanics are so cool and help convey so much about their characters.
Yeah but I gotta say, I’m against Infinity Unfold giving Joel two attack moves. It goes against everything his character was designed for.
@@atpsoldat6108 Infinity Unfolds's changes feel a little less thoughtful than SotWS, but I think overall it adds so much stuff that it's hard not to recommend it.
A character who can do absolutely no damage outside of items, but STILL manages to be incredibly important in battles with his status effects.
@@atpsoldat6108 i mostly prefer infinity unfolds because it actually fixes most of the crashes in this game. And yeah i think attack moves really do kinda ruin the point of it (the gun whip animation is hilariously stupid) but at the same time it makes atleast some sense from logical perspective. Also finger gun despite being choppy actually looks good and isn't just straight up damage and rather applies debuffs which just fit the criteria for him! But i can still understand why most people wouldn't want him to be able to dish out consistent damage
The Franchise is also the end game of all hate groups, eventually they'll have no one left to kill but each other until only one of them's left.
Highlander politics are cool
Judging from characters like Ross, they aren't particular to killing their own for folds
@@jesusjuice3809 But they aren't above it either, considering Arnold smashed a Jerseyhead's face in just for talking to him.
I found your channel shortly after my mom passed away and you're able to pull a thread of optimism out of all of these depressing worlds. Your final thoughts in this video hit exactly on the head of what I've been struggling with pretty much all my life. There's some powerful validation in hearing you put into words what I've been struggling to verbalize.
I feel ya, I lost a bunch of family over the last few years, and it can make everything seem futile.
Big thanks for making this, and showing off Pointless to a wide studio audience.
This is a little nitpicky, but Anaconda's tracks both make reference to works by Julius Evola. "Ride the Anaconda" with "Ride the Tiger", and "Modern Day Ouroboros" originally being called "Revolt Against the Modern Day Ouroboros", referencing "[...] the Modern World". There's also some scattered references to Chinese warlord Zhang Xianzhong, which are important for the game's message. Love your work.
I never knew! There are so many niche little references in this game.
*the world is only pointless if you turn your back on it*
With everything ive been forced to go through lately, i needed that
I'm a big fan of all the random cosmic horror crap that's just around. Like weird memetic murder jerseys??? YO??? that eats!
I'm just glad SOMEONE is keeping Lisa the Pointless alive.
That sims 4 DIO part cracked me up, you are a treasure . Keep at it!
I highly recommend watching Meme House by Vargskelethor, that's where the clip is from.
Man, Pointless has always been a fascinating fan game for me.
It does such a unique take in the same setting Austin Jorgensen established, but with SOTWS you really just get this vibe to it that no other lisa project can really replicate.
Its why ive fallen in love with these fan games, and god damn can i not wait to see what lisa fans bring to the table with this stuff
Also, just wanted to add:
Loved the SS13 reference in the video, had me laughing especially knowing SpaceHippie was a prominent lisa creator as well as a ss13 creator
And also, are there any future plans in covering other Lisa fan games? IE Downtown's Mechanic when it finishes up, or Lisa the Fool?
Either way, great video, I will use this as an excuse to recruit others into enjoying Lisa as a series
I think my next video will be something a little more casual, but I don't think I'm done with the Lisaverse yet.
@@mutantwormgirl What Happens in LISA: Brad Has A Pain.
@@SlaanashWhat's that game about?
@@jutpian It's sort of a weird high-effort shitpost? Your first party member is the balloon that stops you from walking off the ledge after Terry.
It's funny if only for the amount of genuine effort put into the art, music and gameplay. It's worth at least watching the trailer for it.
The use of 8 by the Infinity Franchise might be partially in reference to Khorne, the Warhammer god of blood and indiscriminate violence, as 8 is his sacred number
Unexpected blood god reference
Or you know, Like a Dragon: sideways 8 wealth just doesn't sound as good.
They very possibly just found a sideways shirt and ran with it.
Absolutely fantastic video essay as always! Here's a few fun things about the mod I found:
- The conversation with Milo the Yoga Master actually changes if you have low kills and he will actually allow you to leave the yoga studio if you do so, allowing you to spare him. He wholesomely wishes the both of Alex and Joel good luck on their journey to find a better place.
- You can actually head back to the marauders village, but you'll see that everyone has turned into skeletons or has died, including the village elder. The man next to the village elder is still there, and he mentions that "nothing has happened here for decades." Alex mentions that it hasn't been that long since they visited and the man will mention that it has been 30 years, showing that the passage of time is truly warped in Olathe.
- There is a 'witch' doctor you can find in Downtown Olathe, which will let you purchase a trauma kit for 100 mags. By doing so, you can avoid the fight with Carmac entirely. If you enter the shack, Alex will politely leave instead.
- If you obtain all of Joel's tactics pages and read the tactics book again, you can get a special skill!
- There is a bench that Alex can infinitely rest at in a cave near where the kid's playground is. There is a small flashback you can get, involving Alex and Chie as kids.
- On the 2nd fold, you can actually avoid Hugo stabbing Alex by dodging or disarming him. I have a video on my account of the Hugo fight as well. This doesn't change the ending, but it does change the outcome of Alex and changes the dialogue.
- There is a Joel bond system, where specific actions you do will add or decrease his bond points. If you don't act friendly towards Joel and have a negative bond near the end of the game when Hugo states that Joel will not hurt him, instead of attempting to shoot, Joel will simply just point his gun down.
- You can feed the fish jerky and it will in turn cause it to get stronger and give you new moves. The fish will also make comments if you interact with it every now and then, saying things like "It seems to like Geen". However, if you reach the 3rd fold, interacting with it will simply give the dialogue "it is afraid of you."
- If you defeat Arnold and the army of infinity people in the 3rd fold, there's a special fight and event that occurs afterwards. I won't spoil it but it's definitely something. A trick is to use play dead and throw bottles as enemies will miss their attacks on Joel, even if he's the only one left.
Thank you again for the great video Worm Girl!
Does anything more happen with Georgy? He took the joy pill in the video, but after that he's never mentioned again, is he a joy addict, does he turn into a mutant, or can you not find him again?
@@snitcharoothe8994 nope, he can have withdrals apperently, but its something so rare that i only saw it once on a single fight, georgey is just a bad party member with nothing really intresting aside from a few small moments, Darry is 100× better lol
i like how despite dumping a whole lot of info in here
theres still *SO MUCH* more thats it isnt even a stretch to say theres still like 60% of hidden/missed content even with this overview and this coment how much content there
After some searching done, it shows that Georgy's based on a joy mutant in Lisa the Painful, that you have to fight to get one of the many party members. He is a joy addict as he gets the withdraw affect, and steals something valuable from Alex (unless equipped, and is replaced by the gear he starts with) to sell for mags and to then buy joy, as this is the time where you can see the joy dealer at the inn (in olathea) which is the last time you see him.@@togeluga_the_cat
Yeah the amount of details in this game is amazing.
I love these small, obscure and viscerally painful experiences. They make me feel like shit and I can't get enough.
This game is NOT small. It took me 25-ish hours to complete it fully. And it's actually free
@magixowo5856 I know, I played it but I didn't really grasp how much there is.
I'm never gonna play Rain World but I know what you mean
34:49 You can save them! You can buy a vase from the village before the desert and fill it with water in the nearby spring. Put the fishman in the vase and that should protect it from the heat.
Edit: Oh, you covered that, sorry! >~
1:39:16 the real shit im here for. Love the message. Reckless optimism and interdependence needs to be uplifted. Y'all take care of yourselves and each other. Today and tomorrow can be better if we make it that way.
the SS13 joke straight into Dr. Rockzo reference was some high level tech.
You and I are truly cut from the same cloth.
"There is garbage in the world, but the world is not garbage" really got me tbh. Amazing vid as always WG!
You know the video is going to be FIRE when it starts put with a seemingly unrelated socio-economic setup
Love how Pointless fucks with the player with Alex' fighting style.
People expect that it's like Armstrong Style- a somewhat viable self defence martial style - just to have a rug pulled from under'em when it's revealed that it's both fake in real world and in world of the fiction.
I recall that in the fight with Competitor you had a "secret attack option" after second fail- you still would fail, but now by a foul play not by just trying a fake martial art against a real one.
Also, I swear to god if the kids are a Lord of the Flies reference
Plus quite interestinggly- in Pointless (Scholar of Willbur Sin and Infinity Unfolds version that is) the Franchise seems to be a "replacement" for Joy. Just like it it gives the adicts (this time followers of the idea) a way to feel nothing, or far more- feel like they are better than they really are. Makes the world of Lisa that bit more complex- there is far more places where people loose themselves after dispair hits.
You really put a lot of good work into your script. The usage of vocabulary flowed super well, and decisively communicated the aspects of Pointless that were always tough for me to put my finger on. Very engaging!
This video is like the game she reviewed...
Jam packed with quality...
Also my headcanon is the second ending...
It's the one i personally is the more realistic considering how Alex is
He was a bully who mellowed out with age but the world has changed so much that being overly nice will help others but, in the end, will not help when someone is out for blood
And Alex doesn't strike me as a harmless man but he's also not a deranged killer without remorse
Sometimes the only way to survive is fighting for your life and, in some cases, taking life is the only way to keep survivng
As the saying goes:
You can't call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence.
If you are not capable of violence, you are not peaceful, you're harmless.
Important distinction.
(Sorry for the big comment but i really liked the video)
In the OG Pointless, Alex strikes me as someone who seen it all and won’t hesitate to fight back if the need arise. He’s chummy with Joel, but he’s nowhere near as friendly to strangers as SotWS makes him out to be. Basically, if it was OG Alex that dealt with Gunter Scrouge, he will kill the other old man if it escalate.
I'm feeling pretty based and wormpilled while watching this, ngl.
Wormpilled is totally a mood
The last route is sad. Alex didn't have the best upbringing. He was influenced by factors out of his control, his poverty, his consistent lack of responsible adults. But it was *his* life, the unique set of circumstances that had led to that moment. And the Franchise took that away from him and replaced it with nothing but endless anger driven to lash out against everything and everyone with no particular sense or point, leaving him nothing but a withered husk by the end.
It's always there, just waiting for your worst day.
i hope if/when fool’s gold comes out, you’ll do another analysis of it! :D id love to see it
"flash forward, alex is a garbage man. flash forward again, alex is now garbage."
was not expecting that line jesus christ
It feels endlessly cathartic to see a mod of a mod of a fangame get this much attention. Having been a long term LISA fan that's experienced most of the main fangames and fanmods, it feels like you said, that some of these'll end up being buried in obscurity after The Monster Update comes out. So genuinely, thank you for covering Pointless and it's main fanmods, they really deserved the attention after all the effort the devs and community put into them. I hope you end-up covering Timeless and Unbreakable eventually. Regardless, cheers for the constant goated tier videos, it's always a pleasure to sit down and watch (and REWATCH) these bangers.
Your content is of immense quality and you should be proud worm girl. Please keep making videos like these.
Thank you for another great story/game breakdown, Worm Girl! I hope that things in your life are working out. I'll wait patiently for more videos. 😀
Thanks! Things are shaping up, just had a rocky patch for a bit there.
I love clicking on a video about a Lisa fangame, and it starts off talking about Friedrich Nietzsche.
Your essays of f&h 1 and 2 have become a reliable good night ritual that never fails to relax me. The first Lisa video is great too. And so I am very happy to have another video to obsess over. I might just be your greatest fan. Or at least one of them :)
The way you said "nihilism" gave me existentialism.
Thanks for releasing the first Lisa the Pointless video essay on my birthday, this is a welcome boon.
i REALLY like your more analytical approach to discussing this game. lisa the pointless, and sotws in particular, have a ton of emotional depth to them that most people just gloss over (which, understandable, there's a lot to gush over and the game makes very little attempt to drive its themes in). like, i've barely seen anyone discuss the connection the Franchise has to real-world hate groups, and you're the only person who's approached it from the perspective of it being a thematic element.
just really great stuff all around. gonna go back and watch your other analysis videos (starting witb the one on hopeful) now, and i'll definitely stick around for future uploads, whatever they be :]
In one video I have both felt existentialism and hope for life and the future at the same time, thanks Worm Girl!
i keep rewatching this video, its introduced me to one of my favorite games right now. it helps me just chill out, so thank you for all of that! keep making analysis videos, your voice was made for them lol.
It’s not just that the games may have incredible stories to tell, or that the mechanics may be unique, but your narration that gives them a life of their own. I look forward to each of these videos because aside from the amazing storytelling, you can tell when one of those moments of unfathomable depth and wisdom in your words is coming. You can’t help but smile as your voice delivers those lines wrap up such complicared topics in what feels like a nice neat bow. The storytelling is out of this world, thank you for sharing it with us! Can’t wait for the next one!
A little something to add to the tournament sequence Alex adversary in the tournament is a master of AIKIDO a martial art that focuses heavily on defence and control of the flow with almost no offensive move so it is a hard counter for an amateur fighter like Alex AS he cannot bait attack or break the stence of his adversary like he probably was familar with small fry adversaries in local tournaments
tho, kinda ironically Aikido doesn’t have a great reputation in the martial arts world ‘cuz it has a lot of mystic woo attached to it, and doesn’t perform too well in pressure tests. it’s also fairly modern, if you count post-WW1 as modern!
@@oscaranderson5719generally speaking ww1 is more or less thought to be the dawn of the modern era with modern not necessarily meaning new, jazz is usually considered modern music and the genre is a little over a century old at this point. As for aikido I’ve heard so take it with a grain of salt that “stress tested” aikido tends to look and perform very similar to judo/jiujitsu which makes sense as they are both Japanese in origin and jiujitsu being japans premier grappling system.
@@hitmanmastodon1580 I could believe that, iirc the founder was a former soldier from the Japanese military.
The Joel sims meme house clip threw me for a loop. Love your content and glad you enjoy the funny swedish man as well
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51:44 It always seemed to me that this trace of himself was left by Hugo himself, who passed by. I had no idea that Carmack actually stole the Medkit from him.
You covering Pointless was cool enough, but the fact that you’re talking about SotWS and Infinity Unfolds as well is even more exciting! The mod “ecosystem” surrounding Pointless is something really cool I haven’t seen anywhere else, so I’m looking forward to your analysis. Thanks for all the great content thus far!
Ive been watching a lot of lisa content while being sick this week and your videos are always really intresting and fun
Thank you, and I hope you feel better soon!
12:57 I can't believe I am seeing Trash Humpers referenced in the wild. Truly you have exquisite taste.
Im currently watching this at 4am and all i have to say is thank you for all the cool videos, cant wait for more of em
I am a huge fan of long form video essays, and I’ve gotta say: yours are some of my favorites. Both your scriptwriting and speaking voice are excellent. I’ve never played any of the games you’ve discussed, but I would watch these regardless of what they’re about. Great work!!
I keep coming back to this video. It's so entertaining and fascinating on its own. It's one of my favorite videos on this site. Thank you for your work on it!
YOU HAVE A SPONSOOOOR IM SO HAPPY dude dude i love your channel so much, your writing and narrating is amazing and i love the subject you pick. im am SO SO happy that you can do this as a full time job now! stay as long as you like! i'll be there to watch your videos everytime!
Instant sub for the Metalocalypse reference. Great stuff, keep doing your thing,
lisa the pointless has some of thr best intentional and accidental gsme design especially the way the combo system is used
i love the combo system because it lets to change your skill mid turn so you can change what skill you do in reaction to what happened so far in the turn which is why you cant so a combo for alexs best moves for reacting to enemys like disarming chop and dodge
and all of the combo moves like throat slit and painted red comboing with statuses it adds so many layers to the combat
not to mention the amazing world building especially in downtown the way arnold is introduced instantly shows off his power and his personality though his lack of selebration or change in his expression and its not too dissimilar to the way pyramid head is introduced in silent hill 2
the way the infinity franchise is built up is amazing
i also love the way alex is introduded and how the player can instantly connect to him because anyone would want to get off garbage island
these are the reasons why this is my favorite rpg and why im thankful this video exists since its really the only video about this games lore infinity unfolds specifically
.... every time you post a video, even if I don't know about the topic I always spend the time to watch it.
Literally rises from my tomb to watch this video, thank you worm girl
Shake the dust from your bones!
@@0meAcat1 as I shake, marimba number 5 plays. All is well
I would love to see a video of the original lisa in this format. I only have a switch but your videos and storytelling made me go buy the definitive edition and I'm gonna jump in on it tomorrow on my day off lol
It's a heck of a ride. Have fun!
"As a mentally ill person myself, I think it would actually be tight as hell." is the most fucking absurd shit I have ever read and I'm not going to give 10$ to the ghost of the LOWEST tax of them all (approx 6 feet underground) to say that it's very funny.
Hey a new lore video, one of my favorites! And with the themes of nihilism, a spot to drop one of my favorite passages from a novel:
Even if I fail in the end and obtain nothing, even if my life was a complete failure, so what?
Even if my research is meaningless, so what?
That is what I want to do!
You can call me crazy, you can call me an idiot, you can call me stubborn, you can call me stupid…
Alright.
I am crazy, I am an idiot, I am stubborn and also stupid.
But I… still want to do it regardless!
That is how I want to live!
That is how I can find meaning in my life!
My next 2 hours just got a lot better.
Thanks worm girl I appreciate it.
"i hate this island" god imagine that many maggots
You've quickly turned into one of my favourite creators through your coverage of the Lisa series and F&H. Thanks for the kind words, uplifting messages, and the countless hours of work that must go into all of these.
Hugo is actually beatable in Infinity Unfolds,but wether that's a more fitting ending or not is up to you.
That art in the intro and outro is wonderful, im a big fan of the Oroboros worm :)
FANTASTIC video. Thank you for providing such an excellent read on Pointless! I swear I watched some gameplay of an incomplete version of Pointless forever ago, and never got to enjoy what a sprawling tangle it had become. Fantastic.
I always look forward to one of these. Thank you Worm Girl.
Great video once again, I played OG Pointless but never finished Scholar or saw the other mod so it was cool to see them. Had a recent death in the family, so it was nice to have something fun for a little while. Hope you keep it up, if you keep having games you want to talk about.
I really like your deep dives into lisa fan games. It’s a real niche and i hope you do other games like vegaful or oblivious cause the fan worlds of olathe are so intersting
dude i _literally_ just got done rewatching your hopeful video! we're eating good today!
Found you from fear and hunger, but Lisa is a favorite game of mine and in so happy you did this video
So happy for this, thank you Worm Girl :)
Thanks!
You're welcome, and thank you so much!
Okay the Word Girl Theme Song after the Niche summary made my day. Loved that show so much.
I noticed that you read alot of the comments here so I just wanted to say that I love your videos! They are incredible and your soothing voice makes them even better. I am looking forward to more videos.
I enjoy the way you tell the story in these videos. It’s like listening to a campfire story. That’s how organic it all sounds. Look forward to the next one.
the quality of your videos is so lovely!! the little banner that tells you what music is playing and the creative liberties of what you explain is happening is just so engaging..! this is exactly why ive seen most of your "what happens in" videos more times than i care to count
Thank you!
Fun fact:when you do the second fold but don't continue into the third, and have Joel, you actually have a chance to beat Hugo, just gotta dodge the scalpel attack, stun, or disarm him, then you can have him killed without anything lost [besides lots of health]
"There was a school here - it's gone now"
I see you, cheeky Silent Hill reference.
Starting off with a quote from one of my favourite books of all time?
Dis gon' be gud.
YESSSS!!! Thank you Wormgirl and everybody who worked on this video THANK YOU 🙏
Your channel is extremely underrated. You are the only person whose hour+ long videos I am willing to watch without distracting myself. I hope to see more and more.
17:48
Is that Dio in the sims 4 by Joel Vinesauce?
Under a video of a mod of a mod of a fangame that I've played to death during my entire high school carreer?
For once in my life I finally feel at home
After an hour in, Alex looks like Mark Hamill.
I'm sorry if you can't unsee this too now.
This got game got spoiled for me by a grinch’s ultimatum parody. Always love to see a video by you
Amazing how well it fits so many games.
I know you can keep the fish alive but him getting cooked was probably the hardest I've laughed at a game
I think these videos are the only videos I can watch multiple times without getting bored
Music at 1:15:45 is called 1000 degree damage.
Just on a whim, I thoughtt "I haven't seen a Worm Girl vid in a while, lets see if there's any new one." Lo and behold, a brand new video, fresh from today! Hells ya
Worm girl is the new Joseph Anderson, like neurotic goose is the new Yogscast.
One thing I notice is that Chie might be a reference to chie from persona 4, who is a kung fu addict obsessed with it.
holyshit thanks so much for making this genuinely this is my favorite lisa anything and I'm so glad you made this video my favorite story summery channel makes a video on one of my favorite rpgs ever its late but one of the best Christmas gifts ever
A new Worm Girl video, hot damn! Second Christmas for me!
Hi wormie sorry for going missing for months, been burnt out for too long, added the rest of your back catalogue to watch on a playlist to get through over (hopefully this weekend)
Hope you had a good Chrissy and and have an awesome New Year and a best possible 2024, Year of the Dragon 👍💪💪🍻
Thank you, and happy new year!
There is a way to kill hugo and avoid his rupture you need the 2nd fold (i think) and disarm him and a 2nd phase will happen
oh my god, it tool me 3 first minutes of the video to fall in love with your channel.
Hearing the Word Girl stinger in your intro brought back a lot of memories. Love the content as always.
Thanks for bringing us another brutal but fascinating story that I'd never be able to play on my own. I found I was also really digging the music so now I've got some new tracks in my playlists. Land and Nightmare Bile such jams. Thanks for including those, too!