@@abhiverma9316 Both deserve more. If anything, blame mclaren-mercedes for dropping the ball so hard and the world financial crisis that it set the events in chain for Lewis to snatch up every title that could have gone to other drivers. Not like Alonso or Kimi had the machinery to do so at all times, but if things were to play out that differently it could always be either of them in the fast cars.
Don't know what's best : - The gleaming colors of Alonso's R25 and sharp, agressive look of Kimi's McLaren - Small, compact, light cars, blowing that deafening, all mighty V10 sound - Flavio, Ron, Jean, Franck and EJ all sitting in the pit wall - Alonso, Räikkönen, Schumacher 1 & 2, Montoya, Fisichella, Trulli, Barrichello, Button, Webber, Coulthard, Massa, Villeneuve, all lining on the grid - Luca overseeing Ferrari's legacy in the garage - Allen and Brundle in the commentary box - Pasquale Lattuneddu probably dealing with high rollers desperate to attend the most exclusive and glittering sporting extravaganza in the world when the only chance you had was to be in Bernie's good books - Bernie, the Ring Master, reigning supreme from his Kremlin motor home - Max, then still a respectable figure, ruling from the Casino - No boring, staged social media content to be fed up with - No lame stars faking an interest in F1, having no idea what this is all about - One lap quali, no sprint race... God, how great F1 was back then !
Do feel like this would be ideal to determine the grid for sprint weekends. Resolves the issue of the true pole lap not being the decider for the start of the race
@@MrEshah Yeah that's true. The aggregate never made much sense to me. The "proper" one-shot qualifying might not have been the most interesting to watch, but it was tense and a mistake would ruin your whole weekend... and if there was rain halfway through? Bad luck for you, but it created Japan 2005's crazy grid, so it wasn't all terrible
Anybody who knows anything about F1 know Raikkonen should have won that championship. Leading in imola = dnf, leading in hockenheim- dnf, leading in Nurburgring- dnf I’m sure there were more. Then the multiple times he had to start 10 places back due to engine change. Italy, France, silverstone just a few as there were more. Won more races than alonso and was miles quicker
Funny how people keep saying Alonso deserved more titles, when in reality both of his championships were extremely generous, and arguably he wasn't the best driver on track. In 2005 certainly he wasn't, Kimi was unbelievable.
Unfortunately drivers can have a slow car or an unreliable car under them. In general speed and reliability are a tradeoff. If a team pushes too hard to gain speed, the car might fail. We won't ever know for sure, but it's possible that Kimi's car would've been significantly slower if it was designed to be reliable enough, as reliable as the competition. Who knows if McLaren had spied on other teams already then too... It seems likely that Kimi would've won the championship even if McLaren had dialed the car down enough or designed it in a way to be reliable enough, but we'll never know.
@@pepitojuan7813 yes, but that doesn't mean his maximum pace was 1.2 seconds slower. If he backed off a tiny bit he probably would have been 0.2 of a second slower than Kimi. One shot qualifying was never reflective of overall pace. Just like it wasn't when Kimi made mistakes.
@@ciaronsmith4995 I never said it was worth 1.2 seconds....there's something wrong with your ability to comprehend what other people are conveying to you. You seem totally unable to detach your emotions from discussion. All of your responses are unhinged, even this one.
to me the 2005 season was one of the most beautiful. Still V10s (their last season though), already more advanced and sleek and agressive looking aero, but not too many bits and pieces like 2007 and 2008. And the sound the V10s delivered. The V8s used until their farewell at the end of 2013 were also nice, but not as screaming as the V10s. For me the V10 extremely high Revs era was the best. Like Mario Theissen (former BMW) said "Formula 1 means to be right on the edge. And to determine what's the edge means you need to cross the line sometimes".
Michael would have absolutely walked home to the title. He was miles ahead of Massa in 2006 and would have remained so in 2007. Kimi struggled to beat Massa.
@@MD-uu5nt Totally incorrect considering Michael was terrified of McLaren Kimi and ran away from a direct confrontation. In 2007, Kimi won twice as many races as Massa despite having to adapt to a new tyre and a new team. Kimi would have still won the title. MSC couldn't even win the 2006 title in a faster car than the Renault with weaker competition. Kimi won it in slower and more unreliable car than the illegal McLaren. Get real, son.
@@ciaronsmith4995 once again you have to ignore reality to suit your narrative. "Kimi won twice as many races as Massa" - kimi won three more races than Massa that is correct. What you are conveniently ignoring is that Felipe handed Kimi the Brazilian GP. Otherwise Kimi would have won 5 races to Felipes 4...that doesn't sound as impressive though does it? Michael terrified of Kimi...very unlikely. I'm sure he saw how narrow Kimis operating window was and knew he could easily beat him.
From the website F1 team mate comparison: Schumacher vs Massa: 2006 Head to Head Qualifying MSC 13 MASSA 4 Median Qualifying % gap (fastest lap in final session) -0.293% 0.293% Median Qualifying % gap (only dry sessions) -0.345% 0.345% Kimi vs Massa: 2007 Head to Head Qualifying KIMI 8 MASSA 9 Median Qualifying % gap (fastest lap in final session) -0.016% 0.016% Median Qualifying % gap (only dry sessions) 0.086% -0.086%
Its still my screen background to this day. Best looking race car ever built. If it held together it would probably be the best too..Only in the hands of the Iceman
@@theelf152 yeah but 2006 McLaren in papaya orange was sick af too. But for me 2022 Ferrari takes the cake as the best looking F1 car ever made. What an art piece
@@arcsephiroth Ok each to their own. For me the 2022 cars are horrible. Also from a racing perspective, the worst because they are big and very heavy -792kg compared to 600kg (with driver) in 2005.
James Allen is the voice of golden era of F1 .. his voice matched with F1 as Martin Brundle and Murray Walker’s voice fit also and as you can see, after he stopped commentating on tv (2008 I think) the F1 went downhill .
And everyone hated Allen back when he was the commentator.. funny how that works - prefer croft although Edwards always was the best after Murray retired
I've never seen a driver more at one with the car than that day. The way he just flows the car on the limit all the way through. You get a good sense of it @ 4:03 and at Tabac at 4:39, just fantastic precision and balance - poetry in motion. Never get sick of this...
It's so amazing : the sound, the speed, shaky cams and agile cars... this is both terrifying and so satisfying ! What a shame that today's broadcast can't deliver that sensation of speed.
Call me a conspiracy theorist but I think modern broadcasts were stabilized so much and static imagery being used whenever they can to increase advertisement visibility.
Still criminal to me that Kimi only won a single world title instead of 3. 2003 he took a 2-year old car to the final race, despite Ferrari and Williams having faster cars. And that's despite Ferrari complaining about the Michelin tyres and getting their configurations changed. 2005 was just unbelievable bad luck. A deserving champion in 2007 who was always overlooked and considered "lucky" (far from true), before being a victim of politics at Ferrari. His Lotus years were special too. Yes his second stint at Ferrari and his late career at Alfa never hit the same highs but the disrespect shown regarding this man's career is unbelievable. People say Alonso was unlucky? Kimi only wishes he was as lucky as him
Kimi had the speed, and alonso had the consistency, it is a shame for kimi to lose at least two championships (03 and 05) due to having unreliable car, but we can't change the past.
@@qtepeten300 So.., McLaren had not the best car that year ;) And don't forget the driving mistakes of Kimi that year... Nurburgring for example... He did a flat in the tyre because a beaking blockout and he decided not to stop to change that tyre... Alonso was a better driver (always has been...) than Kimi that year...
I think this is the finest race weekend Kimi Räikkönen has ever done. Perfect all weekend, in the GP, he was driving so fast he had 30 second gaps to P2 before each pit stop, achieving that in the span of 20-25 laps each time.
Actually they are quicker, did you watch the austrian gp these year? As Ralf drove the old BMW. Ralf sayed they stopped the time but not for the public and mentioned even with over 150hp tuned down car 700 hp if im correct and a rev limiter the car was a lot quicker then the current cars. Even Horner and Toto sayed something about it
Because they were smaller and more light. People normally judge the cars for his horsepowers but the weight and size is as important as the power. You can have much more fun driving a car much more smaller and with a decent engine that with 100hp more but a ton of weight more.
@@INFEDnoX you know the old tyre regulation when they changed the slick tyres to grooved one cuz the cars where to fast right? In the next year the cars where 3-4 slower per round fastest lap with grooved tyres are 1:08:4 max is on 1:06:2 do the math by yourself my friend
@@Alvaro.240 sure they are more light but 100kg vs 350hp less and no ERS instant "tourge" the whole round is something to think about, thats what i mean when toto and horner said something about it
2003-2006 Kimi in the tyre war is the fastest driver I've seen since Ayrton Senna. The engine in 2006 was just slow but he had 3 poles in that car and beat Jenson in the standings who had a much better car overall for most of the year.
@@ciaronsmith4995 so what happened in 2007? Why did Kimi suddenly start looking average when he went to Ferrari? Maybe it's because he was never actually as good as people make him out to be. In 2003 he was just very consistent against DC who was never particularly good. DC was in his prime in 1996-2001 and Mika Hakkinen was way faster than him. Much more so than Kimi was. Kimi struggled against DC in comparison to Mika.
@@MD-uu5nt Listen I have explained this too many times - watch the links below. It's because Kimi and Alonso had to adapt to new tyres and a new team that Lewis and especially Massa did not have to. Lewis had used Bridgestones in 2006 in GP2. Michelin left the sport at the end of 2006. Just watch these videos before you comment about this: ruclips.net/video/lKwNy0PDYkI/видео.html ruclips.net/video/kCKny2D9onw/видео.html ruclips.net/video/zKlMaHdwLW8/видео.html
@@MD-uu5nt Struggled against DC? Yeah I remember DC losing the 2003 championship by a single....no wait that was Kimi. Oh yeah, DC was super competitive during the 2004 cham...No wait that's not it either. But yes, Kimi "struggled" for sure.
@@vivsha3498 I said he struggled in comparison to Mika....Hakkinen was clearly miles faster than a prime DC from 96 all the way theough to 2001. Even in Mikas worst year 2001 he outqualified DC and then had awful luck in races. Kimi was quite a bit faster than a past it DC. But he didn't come close to annihilating DC to the same extent that Mika did.
I watch this for the 20th time and I still get hooked to listen, watch and enjoy. Then I watch one of the parades we have today and I cry in pain T.T This ain't what got me in years ago!
There was some track evolution at play there, for sure. Amazing speed from Kimi. Deceptive pace from Alonso while keeping it smooth and risk free. Webber was quite a quali specialist and always outdrove whatever car he was qualifying in. (Pity he couldn't conserve tyres and vehicle very well at race pace).
The fact that Mclaren never had a car reliable enough to give Kimi a chance at the title should be a crime punishable by death. He would’ve been at LEAST a double world champion if they had
This Renault was a beast! Awesome times, the best year I've ever seen in terms of aerodynamics, powerful engines and the peak of engineering. I miss this sound so much ❤
Raikkonen should have won 2005, Hamilton should have won 2007, Massa should have won 2008, Alonso should have won 2012. Formula 1's championships are hard-earned, but don't always show just who was the star of the season. None are more apparent than Kimi in 2005. What an absolute machine he was in that McLaren.
@@AlphaAssasinYT let's face it, if Kimi was an animal in 2007 he would not have needed others misfortune to win the title. Both teams had evenly matched cars.
@@5950ziel the clowns in the McLaren 2007 didn't have any misfortunes from the mechanical side. Kimi had mechanical dnfs in 2007 and if not for that, the 2 McLaren clowns wouldn't have been that close by last race. So if you haven't watched 2007, stfu
That sound. I am lucky we live so close to Indianapolis. Only an hour and a half here from Cincinnati. We went up for the formula one races. I remember when I first heard that sound live in the year 2000.
There is no doubt in my mind that Kimi would have had 3 world titles, versus 1 with Ferrari, if that McLaren wasn't such a fragile car. I remember growing up and being gutted time after time watching Kimi have yet another DNF from mechanical failure. Kimi was fast AF.
Absurd... The championship with Ferrari would have never occurr in normal conditions. It was a championship wasted by McLaren. In 2005 Alonso was far better than Kimi (more than 20 points of difference at the end of the season is just not luck ;) ).
@@ciaronsmith4995 So you blame the car for being unreliable but you don't clap the car for being so fast ;) A direct comparisson between both drivers occured in Ferrari 2014 when Kimi ended CRYING DEPRESSED after being destroyed by Alonso ;) One of the biggest differences between two drivers with the same car in f1 recent history (probably the biggest).
@@arredondoing Raikkonen was very poor at adapting and fell off a cliff after the switch to Bridgestones but there's no denying he was, by a margin, the best driver of 2005. The R25 was so good that Renault deliberately slowed themselves down to stop the FIA getting suspicious and Raikkonen's car broke down every other weekend and he was still giving a good fight. In his prime he was terrifyingly fast.
Not really 2000 - 2004 was dominated by you-know-who and nobody got remotely close, save for Kimi being only 2 points away from the championship in 2003 THAT HE REALLY REALLY DESERVED TO WIN! The seasons after, yes, until Seb Vettel came along and of course Lewis Hamilton... and now Max!
Great driving by all the drivers.. Alonso super lap then the ICEMAN KIMI what a lap... My favourite part of the clip was Fabio Alonsos team Boss applauding Kimis lap... 👌👍... not throwing headphones down no no this is so not fair... they were real f1 times in this clip... hinour and respect
Even as a massive Alonso fan I accept that the Renault wasn’t nearly as quick as the McLaren in 2005. However it was the better car because it was very reliable and Alonso was incredibly consistent. If Kimi had a reliable car under him he would’ve won for sure, but you must finish in order to win.
I miss James Allen.............he was able to get exited, without screaming and yelling at the top of his lungs.........." Crofty " could learn a lot from him !!!!!!!
It's a mix of everything. The screaming V10 sounds faster than the vacuum cleaners, the field of view nowadays is much bigger showing all the sponsors, basically no fixed camera angles anymore and tracking the car looks slower. In the end all the technical advantages we have nowadays make it look worse, isn't it great 😃
My younger self used to hate on James Allen, for essentially 'not' being Murray Walker .... but as I get older and look back at these clips, he was a very good commentator
I'm not going to mention the glorious engines......Oops! Anyway, those cars! Small, light, epic direction change. Oh, and they sounded like God's thunder! Oops...I did it again ;)
One of the greatest laps I have ever seen.
And they say Alonso deserved more titles. If anything , Kimi deserved the title that year.
@@abhiverma9316 Correct.
@@abhiverma9316 Both deserve more. If anything, blame mclaren-mercedes for dropping the ball so hard and the world financial crisis that it set the events in chain for Lewis to snatch up every title that could have gone to other drivers. Not like Alonso or Kimi had the machinery to do so at all times, but if things were to play out that differently it could always be either of them in the fast cars.
Luckily you’re not baised at all seeing you’re Channel.. I’ll quess you even sleep in a Kimi raikkonen bed..
@@abhiverma9316
Alonso was brilliant though in the 2nd quickest car
Mega lap from Kimi. The way Flavio clapped as he digested that says it all.
Yes that's like when people clap and smile at the Oscars ceremony.
Crazy to think senna’s 88 crash they mentioned was 17 years before this session…and its now been 17 years since that
I often think the same! Senna seemed like ancient history for me growing up but he was actually closer to 2005 than 2005 is to now! Its scary
Kind of crazy that I had that exact same thought
Am i that old?
Yes and if Senna had been in the other Maclaren on that day I bet he would have stuck it on pole.
time flies, so does Kimi
Don't know what's best :
- The gleaming colors of Alonso's R25 and sharp, agressive look of Kimi's McLaren
- Small, compact, light cars, blowing that deafening, all mighty V10 sound
- Flavio, Ron, Jean, Franck and EJ all sitting in the pit wall
- Alonso, Räikkönen, Schumacher 1 & 2, Montoya, Fisichella, Trulli, Barrichello, Button, Webber, Coulthard, Massa, Villeneuve, all lining on the grid
- Luca overseeing Ferrari's legacy in the garage
- Allen and Brundle in the commentary box
- Pasquale Lattuneddu probably dealing with high rollers desperate to attend the most exclusive and glittering sporting extravaganza in the world when the only chance you had was to be in Bernie's good books
- Bernie, the Ring Master, reigning supreme from his Kremlin motor home
- Max, then still a respectable figure, ruling from the Casino
- No boring, staged social media content to be fed up with
- No lame stars faking an interest in F1, having no idea what this is all about
- One lap quali, no sprint race...
God, how great F1 was back then !
It could not be summed up better
Also the violence of the cars. Todays cars seem so smooth and tame and slow on tv
You forgot something really important. Just one street circuit. Those were surely the best years, when I used to be proud of F1
The V10s screaming through the tunnel
I like our current qualifying format but I honestly kinda miss this one too. You get one shot. All or nothing. Mistakes actually get you punished
Do feel like this would be ideal to determine the grid for sprint weekends. Resolves the issue of the true pole lap not being the decider for the start of the race
You had one shot, twice. This was still the aggregate qualifying experiment which was pretty terrible.
How were they deciding who goes first?
@@Shifftee reversed results from the previous race. The 20th driver went 1st and so on.
@@MrEshah Yeah that's true. The aggregate never made much sense to me. The "proper" one-shot qualifying might not have been the most interesting to watch, but it was tense and a mistake would ruin your whole weekend... and if there was rain halfway through? Bad luck for you, but it created Japan 2005's crazy grid, so it wasn't all terrible
Anybody who knows anything about F1 know Raikkonen should have won that championship. Leading in imola = dnf, leading in hockenheim- dnf, leading in Nurburgring- dnf I’m sure there were more. Then the multiple times he had to start 10 places back due to engine change. Italy, France, silverstone just a few as there were more. Won more races than alonso and was miles quicker
Well said.
Goated😊
Yes you're right. The mercedes engine in the McLaren was so quick, but so fragile. Kimi should've won 2005.
Funny how people keep saying Alonso deserved more titles, when in reality both of his championships were extremely generous, and arguably he wasn't the best driver on track. In 2005 certainly he wasn't, Kimi was unbelievable.
Unfortunately drivers can have a slow car or an unreliable car under them. In general speed and reliability are a tradeoff. If a team pushes too hard to gain speed, the car might fail. We won't ever know for sure, but it's possible that Kimi's car would've been significantly slower if it was designed to be reliable enough, as reliable as the competition. Who knows if McLaren had spied on other teams already then too...
It seems likely that Kimi would've won the championship even if McLaren had dialed the car down enough or designed it in a way to be reliable enough, but we'll never know.
1.214 sec faster than his teammate! Kimi was unbelievable!
Montoya made a mistake on his run. Not reflective of the real gap between them. One lap qualifying was a lottery.
@@MD-uu5nt Montoya makes a mistake = his fault/skill issue
@@pepitojuan7813 yes, but that doesn't mean his maximum pace was 1.2 seconds slower. If he backed off a tiny bit he probably would have been 0.2 of a second slower than Kimi. One shot qualifying was never reflective of overall pace. Just like it wasn't when Kimi made mistakes.
@@MD-uu5nt Not really. Montoya's "mistake" wasn't worth 1.2 seconds. You don't have a clue about what you're talking about, unfortunately.
@@ciaronsmith4995 I never said it was worth 1.2 seconds....there's something wrong with your ability to comprehend what other people are conveying to you. You seem totally unable to detach your emotions from discussion. All of your responses are unhinged, even this one.
to me the 2005 season was one of the most beautiful. Still V10s (their last season though), already more advanced and sleek and agressive looking aero, but not too many bits and pieces like 2007 and 2008. And the sound the V10s delivered. The V8s used until their farewell at the end of 2013 were also nice, but not as screaming as the V10s. For me the V10 extremely high Revs era was the best. Like Mario Theissen (former BMW) said "Formula 1 means to be right on the edge. And to determine what's the edge means you need to cross the line sometimes".
I never liked Mario Theissen, but I like that quote.
Peak F1 for me. It's gone downhill massively since then (and I've been watching since 1993)...
@@StuartH2709 people were complaining about F1 back then as well, it’s nothing new
2003 & 2005-09. What an era. Even 2010 and 2012 were decent.
For me, 2006 season was the best ever.
Kimi and Michael in Ferrari vs Lewis and Fernando in Mclaren in 2007 would have been mental...
Michael would have absolutely walked home to the title. He was miles ahead of Massa in 2006 and would have remained so in 2007. Kimi struggled to beat Massa.
That sounds like two extremely dysfunctional teams to me
@@MD-uu5nt Totally incorrect considering Michael was terrified of McLaren Kimi and ran away from a direct confrontation. In 2007, Kimi won twice as many races as Massa despite having to adapt to a new tyre and a new team. Kimi would have still won the title. MSC couldn't even win the 2006 title in a faster car than the Renault with weaker competition. Kimi won it in slower and more unreliable car than the illegal McLaren. Get real, son.
@@ciaronsmith4995 once again you have to ignore reality to suit your narrative.
"Kimi won twice as many races as Massa" - kimi won three more races than Massa that is correct. What you are conveniently ignoring is that Felipe handed Kimi the Brazilian GP. Otherwise Kimi would have won 5 races to Felipes 4...that doesn't sound as impressive though does it?
Michael terrified of Kimi...very unlikely. I'm sure he saw how narrow Kimis operating window was and knew he could easily beat him.
From the website F1 team mate comparison:
Schumacher vs Massa: 2006
Head to Head Qualifying MSC 13 MASSA 4
Median Qualifying % gap (fastest lap in final session) -0.293% 0.293%
Median Qualifying % gap (only dry sessions) -0.345% 0.345%
Kimi vs Massa: 2007
Head to Head Qualifying KIMI 8 MASSA 9
Median Qualifying % gap (fastest lap in final session) -0.016% 0.016%
Median Qualifying % gap (only dry sessions) 0.086% -0.086%
The sound of the engine at 2:35 combined with that light reverb makes me miss v10s so incredibly much. Truly musical to my ears
Those McLaren 'viking horns' look so incredible
Its still my screen background to this day. Best looking race car ever built. If it held together it would probably be the best too..Only in the hands of the Iceman
@@theelf152 yeah but 2006 McLaren in papaya orange was sick af too.
But for me 2022 Ferrari takes the cake as the best looking F1 car ever made. What an art piece
@@arcsephiroth Ok each to their own. For me the 2022 cars are horrible. Also from a racing perspective, the worst because they are big and very heavy -792kg compared to 600kg (with driver) in 2005.
This commentator deserves more credit..
Kimi's car was, in my opinion, the most beautiful F1 car ever.
Renault R26 is the most beautiful F1 car ever.
@@Videos-sobre-punhos-e-rodas That's a weird way to spell Lotus 49 🤔
100% . Best looking race car I ever seen! Not just F1- Look at it - it just screams - GTFO the way !
@@RhodokTribesmanI think you just spelt Lotus 79 wrongly 🤔 ✌
Williams fv26@@Videos-sobre-punhos-e-rodas
I love this commentator with Martin, Croft is just a screamer.
James allen is so underrated as commentator!
@@tijmenvanderschaar2849 true
James Allen is the voice of golden era of F1 .. his voice matched with F1 as Martin Brundle and Murray Walker’s voice fit also and as you can see, after he stopped commentating on tv (2008 I think) the F1 went downhill .
And everyone hated Allen back when he was the commentator.. funny how that works - prefer croft although Edwards always was the best after Murray retired
This is funny. Everyone absolutely hated James Allen at the time.
Mp4-20 was a fantastic car. Fast, nimble, beautiful. All it lacked was reliability.
I've never seen a driver more at one with the car than that day. The way he just flows the car on the limit all the way through. You get a good sense of it @ 4:03 and at Tabac at 4:39, just fantastic precision and balance - poetry in motion. Never get sick of this...
It's so amazing : the sound, the speed, shaky cams and agile cars... this is both terrifying and so satisfying ! What a shame that today's broadcast can't deliver that sensation of speed.
Car were lighter and fat and long 2023 cars suck in comparaison
Call me a conspiracy theorist but I think modern broadcasts were stabilized so much and static imagery being used whenever they can to increase advertisement visibility.
Pure Eargasm😍
Nothing is better than the symphony of V10 engines.
Allthough nice, not as nice as engines from the turbo era. Those engines were trying to eat everything, dead and alive..
@@PanzerChicken69 I like their screaming sound, it's like a symphony, miles better than turbo for me.
the cars the drivers the sounds - 2005 F1 was awesome
Last year of the V10's 😥. Shame today's generation won't be able to experience that...
When the cars looked and sounded the best. 👍🏻
I love these classic clips. 2000s were absolutely epic for f1. Love it. Thanks
Still criminal to me that Kimi only won a single world title instead of 3. 2003 he took a 2-year old car to the final race, despite Ferrari and Williams having faster cars. And that's despite Ferrari complaining about the Michelin tyres and getting their configurations changed. 2005 was just unbelievable bad luck. A deserving champion in 2007 who was always overlooked and considered "lucky" (far from true), before being a victim of politics at Ferrari. His Lotus years were special too. Yes his second stint at Ferrari and his late career at Alfa never hit the same highs but the disrespect shown regarding this man's career is unbelievable. People say Alonso was unlucky? Kimi only wishes he was as lucky as him
Prime Kimi could take anyone, and I do mean ANYONE
He was immaculate at McLaren in 2005, and won in cars that never deserved it (2004)
Fernando: Yeah baby pole position!!!
Kimi: *peels the wall* are you sure about that
Kimi had the speed, and alonso had the consistency, it is a shame for kimi to lose at least two championships (03 and 05) due to having unreliable car, but we can't change the past.
its not a shame for kimi to have lost 05, was a shame to Mclaren that clearly have the best car of the year but it brokes a lot
@@qtepeten300 So.., McLaren had not the best car that year ;) And don't forget the driving mistakes of Kimi that year... Nurburgring for example... He did a flat in the tyre because a beaking blockout and he decided not to stop to change that tyre... Alonso was a better driver (always has been...) than Kimi that year...
@@arredondoing Was the best car by far… the difference on few circuits was massive…
@@arredondoing And I know Alonso its better driver you cant teach me about F1 🤣
@@arredondoing ¿Didn't changing tyres were banned that year?
I adore James Allen's commentary
I love so much these tiny loud machines...
I think this is the finest race weekend Kimi Räikkönen has ever done. Perfect all weekend, in the GP, he was driving so fast he had 30 second gaps to P2 before each pit stop, achieving that in the span of 20-25 laps each time.
Kimi at his prime was absolute beast...thanks for sharing this video 👍 👍 👍
The sensation of speed from these cars seems much higher than in modern F1, it looks much more ragged and exciting
Actually they are quicker, did you watch the austrian gp these year? As Ralf drove the old BMW. Ralf sayed they stopped the time but not for the public and mentioned even with over 150hp tuned down car 700 hp if im correct and a rev limiter the car was a lot quicker then the current cars. Even Horner and Toto sayed something about it
Because they were smaller and more light. People normally judge the cars for his horsepowers but the weight and size is as important as the power. You can have much more fun driving a car much more smaller and with a decent engine that with 100hp more but a ton of weight more.
@@whosOhZoNe They aren't quicker at all, even if you put slicks on them. They are more fun, though. Like, way more fun.
@@INFEDnoX you know the old tyre regulation when they changed the slick tyres to grooved one cuz the cars where to fast right? In the next year the cars where 3-4 slower per round fastest lap with grooved tyres are 1:08:4 max is on 1:06:2 do the math by yourself my friend
@@Alvaro.240 sure they are more light but 100kg vs 350hp less and no ERS instant "tourge" the whole round is something to think about, thats what i mean when toto and horner said something about it
As a South African, I was not expecting a throwback to the mid 2000s SuperSport F1 broadcast team at the end. 😂😂😂
2003-2005 Kimi was incredible
2003-2006 Kimi in the tyre war is the fastest driver I've seen since Ayrton Senna. The engine in 2006 was just slow but he had 3 poles in that car and beat Jenson in the standings who had a much better car overall for most of the year.
@@ciaronsmith4995 so what happened in 2007? Why did Kimi suddenly start looking average when he went to Ferrari? Maybe it's because he was never actually as good as people make him out to be. In 2003 he was just very consistent against DC who was never particularly good.
DC was in his prime in 1996-2001 and Mika Hakkinen was way faster than him. Much more so than Kimi was. Kimi struggled against DC in comparison to Mika.
@@MD-uu5nt Listen I have explained this too many times - watch the links below. It's because Kimi and Alonso had to adapt to new tyres and a new team that Lewis and especially Massa did not have to. Lewis had used Bridgestones in 2006 in GP2. Michelin left the sport at the end of 2006. Just watch these videos before you comment about this:
ruclips.net/video/lKwNy0PDYkI/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/kCKny2D9onw/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/zKlMaHdwLW8/видео.html
@@MD-uu5nt Struggled against DC? Yeah I remember DC losing the 2003 championship by a single....no wait that was Kimi. Oh yeah, DC was super competitive during the 2004 cham...No wait that's not it either.
But yes, Kimi "struggled" for sure.
@@vivsha3498 I said he struggled in comparison to Mika....Hakkinen was clearly miles faster than a prime DC from 96 all the way theough to 2001. Even in Mikas worst year 2001 he outqualified DC and then had awful luck in races. Kimi was quite a bit faster than a past it DC. But he didn't come close to annihilating DC to the same extent that Mika did.
Those words ring in my ears today. "Now then, Mr. Raikkonen, what can you do?". It was never a question for Kimi, just a dare.
I watch this for the 20th time and I still get hooked to listen, watch and enjoy. Then I watch one of the parades we have today and I cry in pain T.T This ain't what got me in years ago!
Cars are so beautifull ! And this is the best sounding engines !!!
There was some track evolution at play there, for sure. Amazing speed from Kimi. Deceptive pace from Alonso while keeping it smooth and risk free. Webber was quite a quali specialist and always outdrove whatever car he was qualifying in. (Pity he couldn't conserve tyres and vehicle very well at race pace).
The fact that Mclaren never had a car reliable enough to give Kimi a chance at the title should be a crime punishable by death. He would’ve been at LEAST a double world champion if they had
This Renault was a beast! Awesome times, the best year I've ever seen in terms of aerodynamics, powerful engines and the peak of engineering. I miss this sound so much ❤
Raikkonen should have won 2005, Hamilton should have won 2007, Massa should have won 2008, Alonso should have won 2012.
Formula 1's championships are hard-earned, but don't always show just who was the star of the season. None are more apparent than Kimi in 2005. What an absolute machine he was in that McLaren.
Stop saying what should have happened it's pointless.
Tbf Massa made too many mistakes of his own in 2008, and Kimi was an absolute animal in 2007 too
@@AlphaAssasinYT let's face it, if Kimi was an animal in 2007 he would not have needed others misfortune to win the title.
Both teams had evenly matched cars.
Schumacher should have won 97, 98, 99
@@5950ziel the clowns in the McLaren 2007 didn't have any misfortunes from the mechanical side. Kimi had mechanical dnfs in 2007 and if not for that, the 2 McLaren clowns wouldn't have been that close by last race. So if you haven't watched 2007, stfu
That sound. I am lucky we live so close to Indianapolis. Only an hour and a half here from Cincinnati. We went up for the formula one races. I remember when I first heard that sound live in the year 2000.
I watched all these races live and I have to admit it used to give me goosebumps. Sadly not anymore, these days it is just not exciting anymore.
Crazy how the old qualifying system let drivers play with the variation on the track conditions.. no traffic, concentration..
Might be the greatest qualifying lap in f1 history
Man, that Renault and Mercedes looked gorgeous. Great livery on both. And the shape of the cars 😎
Alonso's lap is fast, but Kimi's lap is EXTREMELY fast!!!
One of the most exciting qualifying
My god!!! I miss this so much!
There is no doubt in my mind that Kimi would have had 3 world titles, versus 1 with Ferrari, if that McLaren wasn't such a fragile car. I remember growing up and being gutted time after time watching Kimi have yet another DNF from mechanical failure. Kimi was fast AF.
Absurd... The championship with Ferrari would have never occurr in normal conditions. It was a championship wasted by McLaren. In 2005 Alonso was far better than Kimi (more than 20 points of difference at the end of the season is just not luck ;) ).
@@arredondoing Kimi was far better than Alonso. Kimi just had a more unreliable car.
@@ciaronsmith4995 So you blame the car for being unreliable but you don't clap the car for being so fast ;) A direct comparisson between both drivers occured in Ferrari 2014 when Kimi ended CRYING DEPRESSED after being destroyed by Alonso ;) One of the biggest differences between two drivers with the same car in f1 recent history (probably the biggest).
@@arredondoing Raikkonen was very poor at adapting and fell off a cliff after the switch to Bridgestones but there's no denying he was, by a margin, the best driver of 2005. The R25 was so good that Renault deliberately slowed themselves down to stop the FIA getting suspicious and Raikkonen's car broke down every other weekend and he was still giving a good fight. In his prime he was terrifyingly fast.
@@INFEDnoX Good joke.
These cars look amazing
The best qualifying lap of Kimi's career.
Commentator: Now Mr. Raikkonen, what can you do?
Kimi: Hold my beer…
this never gets old
The sound of them engines 😍😍
The cars sounded amazing compared to now. That was peak F1 and every year there were 3-5 potential world champions.
Not really 2000 - 2004 was dominated by you-know-who and nobody got remotely close, save for Kimi being only 2 points away from the championship in 2003 THAT HE REALLY REALLY DESERVED TO WIN!
The seasons after, yes, until Seb Vettel came along and of course Lewis Hamilton... and now Max!
OMG!! The sound of that engine made this vid way way better.
My god that sound... Amazing
Great driving by all the drivers.. Alonso super lap then the ICEMAN KIMI what a lap... My favourite part of the clip was Fabio Alonsos team Boss applauding Kimis lap... 👌👍... not throwing headphones down no no this is so not fair... they were real f1 times in this clip... hinour and respect
Literally had goosebumps
Kimi was flying there 😱😮💪👏
HALF A SECOND !!!
Wow hearing that engine sound is so satisfying..
What a sound oh my god
kimi half a second faster than alonsos beastly renault. what a talent he was!
The sound of those engines!
Good old deafening V10s 👹🔝
That lap from raikonen was absolute mint
thank you
Big fan sir
Perfect impersonation
bwoah
I miss those sounds.
Man I miss these cars. F1 just isn't the same nowadays.
Remember that time when f1 cars sounded kickass?!!
Even as a massive Alonso fan I accept that the Renault wasn’t nearly as quick as the McLaren in 2005. However it was the better car because it was very reliable and Alonso was incredibly consistent. If Kimi had a reliable car under him he would’ve won for sure, but you must finish in order to win.
Good and old times...
I miss James Allen.............he was able to get exited, without screaming and yelling at the top of his lungs.........." Crofty " could learn a lot from him !!!!!!!
The time when F1 was actually fantastic to watch
The sheer fury and sound...
Will you reupload the original version of this with Trulli Ralf and Fisi’s laps
I wish I could it got blocked and those two laps were the problem for copyright!
Working on it...
Couldn’t help but tilt my phone to every corner of these super laps
Die alten onbord bilder sehen so viel spektakulärer aus als heute! Wow
Single lap shoot out qualifying was the best format they ever had. They should bring it back.
That looks soooo fast. Much faster than nowadays. Is that because of the worse camera?
It's a mix of everything. The screaming V10 sounds faster than the vacuum cleaners, the field of view nowadays is much bigger showing all the sponsors, basically no fixed camera angles anymore and tracking the car looks slower. In the end all the technical advantages we have nowadays make it look worse, isn't it great 😃
Funny to hear Sasha Martinengo at the end of the video. South African DJ for 5FM and F1 pundit/presenter on Supersport on DSTV at the time.
Monaco has always played to Kimi’s rally car strengths. All he ever needed was a durable car - not an easy thing to do given how hard he drives.
My favourite year of f1
legend
yo can feel the speed with this cars
Yeag, they should bring back one lap shootout for monaco. That'll made the weekend more interesting
My younger self used to hate on James Allen, for essentially 'not' being Murray Walker .... but as I get older and look back at these clips, he was a very good commentator
That might be the best lap ever on motorsports. Insane talent.
Just imagine what Kimi could have achieved if he just gave a f**k.
Lap of the century i would say
its lap of the decade
JEEZ! The acceleration these things had!…
I was born 2 days after this race and we got qualifying on my birthday this year
A classic F1 poster for decades
KIMI in his silver mclaren and alonso in blue and yellow renault
Cars look so much better than modern cars.
E o cicuito que mexe mais com o piloto do que a aéreo dinâmica DO carro.
What to me is shocking is how small the cars are lol. I kinda think we should go back to it!
that webber lap 👀👀👀
looked sped up, they went so fast!!
This qualifying system was the best to
I'm not going to mention the glorious engines......Oops! Anyway, those cars! Small, light, epic direction change. Oh, and they sounded like God's thunder! Oops...I did it again ;)
This is God-like driving
3 unbelievable laps from 3 brilliant drivers. And how about the engine sound! Fair play to all drivers, what a session.