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Sam wasn’t a man yet when Kent left and Vincent can remember his father enough to know he’s changed. Kent was a soldier not like a commanding officer so he’d have to be young and healthy enough to be fit to fight. He seems like 19 years old to me. Sebastian has a younger sister with a different father who’s old enough to go have gone to school to be a nurse. I’d guess 30 years old for Sebastian. Abigail is still in school and talks about homework but never talks about anything substantial like going for her masters degree or writing a dissertation. I’m guessing early 20s
Sebastian’s dialogue in the saloon on fridays makes me feel like he’s an older mentor-ish for the two. He says “should I let sam win for once? nah” It gives your cool older next-door neighbor who takes you and you friends out on weekends vibes.
Ye, Shane also got this "I'm doomed anyway" attitude, so he doesn't really care for his looks, while Elliot on other hand seems like a person who didn't really do much hard work in his life so it's logical he would look younger.
This. Shane is obviously depressed and drinks alot to cope with it. Elliott on the other hand says he goes out for walks and excercises regularly to maintain his physique, he also admits it takes him a while to brush his hair
Oh, it absolutely does. My mum is a recovering alcoholic (27 years clean!), and people frequently mistake her as my grandmother. Substance abuse can age a person by several decades, especially if there's immense stress and/or mental health involved.
There’s gotta be a bigger age gap between Maru and Sebastian. Sebastian’s relationship with Demetrius doesn’t feel like Demetrius has been in Sebastian’s life since he was two years old. I’d put them 6 years apart at minimum.
@@sodorart I think it's also important to take in robin and demetrius's age when considering how old their kids may be. I think bringing up that sebastian and demetrius seem to have a strained relationship is a valid point and speaks to sebastian's age. Robin herself does not appear to be very old. She's very lively and obviously is still capable of handling a physically demanding career like carpentry. If I had to guess, robin had sebastian at a pretty young age and possibly never married the baby daddy. Demetrius is very protective of Maru, almost like he hasn't yet come to terms with the fact that Maru is an adult, similar to Caroline with Abigail.
I was thinking this too. I think he’d be the same age as Harvey but just seems younger because he is so well kept and he has a more carefree lifestyle.
actually i do have an artist friend who's in her 40s but dress, looks and behaves younger than that, i mean you can kinda see she's not in her 20s but i didn't expect her to be 40+ with three diplomas either when i found out, and she's also not all that settled in her life, she had a marriage that didn't work and her job isn't stable, she lives with her mom but in general she is cheerful, vibes well and do lots of stuff, i was taking free theathre and choral lessons with her also she's probably neurodivergent and i see elliot as one as well (probably bc CA is autistic or smth himself and that leaks into his characters, i know how it works from my own experience lmaoooo), so i totally can believe him being 40+, especially counting that he's dropped everything and went away to live on the beach, he's probably had a lot of stuff before, burned himself out and just run away to 100% his special interest (I CAN FEEL THAT TOO HARD but im in mid20s)
On top of roughly 4 years in college, we can assume. Plus residency to become a fully licensed, independent physician which is a minimum of 3 more years. So, if Harvey went to college straight out of high school AND found himself opening his private practice in Pelican Town within a year or two after (maybe he even did his residency there with whoever was the town's doctor before), he'd be at LEAST 35-36 years old. All this to say yeah, I think his placement on this list is pretty accurate. :)
@@asafoetidajones8181 Most developed countries operate similarly. If they're different, they aren't off by more than a couple years. That is to say, you aren't going to find many doctors opening their own practices in their late 20's, even in most rural parts of the world. Even all that aside though, I think it IS reasonable to assume schools work in SDV the same way they do in the US. ConcernedApe is an American developer, and most of the characters and culture explored within the games points to a modern western setting at the very least.
I have always felt there was a bit more of an age gap between Sebastian and Maru simply because they are half siblings. Robin doesn't seem the kind to cheat so one can assume that she had been separated or widowed or whatever for a while before she started dating Demetrius. that and the relationship between Sebastian and Demetrius makes me think he knew his real father. As for Maru's education ... She is clearly a genius, she probably skipped a few grades and got into college early.
i personally think sebastian is younger than 29, mostly because he's friends with sam and abigail. his smoking problem could have started when he was a teenager and hid it from his mom. i can't explain his job lol, but i feel like seb would be 26, and maru would be maybe 25-24
Even if his smoking problem didn't start as a teenager, nicotine addiction is super difficult to kick. Within a month of my friend giving me her vape during a hard time for my mental health, I was severely addicted to nicotine. I've been vaping for over two and a half years now and every day I wish I could quit. I tried to cut it out completely once, but the withdrawals drove me crazy and I ultimately fell back into the habit. Since then I've lowered the amount of nicotine from 20mg to 6mg, and I don't vape quite as much as I used to because of work, but I am in no way close to quitting- as much as I want to.
@@crypticaqua8758 first of all i’m really sorry that must be really rough; second of all i said what ages i think he could be and if he started when he was let’s say 16 or 17 that would’ve been 8-10 years of addiction (idk if that’s what you were saying but still)
@@yourstruly.hannah I think I was just adding on to what you said, it was implied in the video that Sebastian has to be older than Sam and Abigail because he smokes, as if it takes a really long time for someone to develop a nicotine addiction. I think I was just agreeing with you and stating that even if he didn't start smoking as a teen, he could still be within that range and be addicted to nicotine but also wishing he could quit smoking for his health
Personally I think it’s a good thing that the ages are generally up to interpretation. I feel like with a game like this with marriage candidates for the player, it’s better to keep ages ambiguous so people don’t feel weird about a character being too old/young. I say this because a game I’m currently playing has a marriage candidate who is confirmed to be *18 years old*, which drives me nuts every time I think about it. 18 is not old enough to be getting married no matter how you look at it 💀
Like half of them act like they're 15 anyway tbf. Abigail for example. We're supposed to hate Pierre for forcing her to do chores or whatever but she's apparently an adult who has no job and just kicks rocks all day long. Same with Sebastian, Alex, Haley, this is so deeply unattractive of them lol its like youre babysitting. Sebastian declaring that he's totally gonna get a super good job out of nowhere (
@@KOTEBANAROT you’re so right. I had married sebastian before but his lack of ambition is a huge turn off. Didn’t realize till now it’s bc of his immaturity too
I was still feeling weird romancing Sebastian, cause it felt like I was romancing 18 year old. Mostly because his behavior reminded me of myself at that age. I am 27 and it's hard for me to believe that this character is my age. Though, he still lives with his parents..maybe that's why he does not feel experienced in life.
While Sam is definitely a baby I think Alex is potentially the youngest bachelor. In his 8 heart even he says it’s the 12 year anniversary of his mother’s death. He also says he was too young to thank her, they just played sports and he remembers her cooking. To me that says he was like 10 at the oldest Also I’m not sure if this is right but isn’t he out of high school hoping to get drafted to a college team? I know his father an alcoholic but he likes alcohol just fine as a gift but never goes to the bar, even in the first green rain even. Maybe he’s too young to drink 😅 Maybe that’s why he grows so much as a person 😂
My take on Alex's view on alcohol is that he generally doesn't care about it and normally doesn't feel the need to drink it, but he can still enjoy a glass or two if it's offered by someone else.
I’ve always pictured Leah between 26-28. She said her and her ex were just scraping by so there def wasn’t a long term investment in the cabin, and it is quite small so probs wouldn’t need that much. Plus she’s still young enough to still want to make an effort to become an artist but also old enough to have been in a long term relationship of sharing an apartment. I also imagined Sebastian to be the oldest in his friend group of Sam and Abigail, though by about 2-3 years, and Sam and Seb always felt closer with Abigail being more on the outer, implying she may be younger. Apart from that I think this is very accurate!
Its just not possible to leave your parents house at the ripe age of 18 anymore its too expensive. It bothers me when people still have this mindset that people need to be moved out immediately when todays economy just cant support it. Im glad you touched on this topic for the video, awesome age analysis I definitely agree on all of them ❤
i wouldn't say it's THAT impossible to move out at 18. i live in a third world country with a huge, and i really mean /huge/, economic crisis (Argentina) and most, if not all, the young adults i know (myself included) have already moved out by 18/19 to go to college. i'll admit that education and healthcare are completely free over here, but still, living in the situation we are forced to face every day, i wouldn't say it's completely impossible. i understand that other countries may have their own economic struggles, and i'm really sorry about that because i know it's not exactly a pretty situation to be put in, but it kinda makes me giggle when people that live in first world countries say that they are facing a rough time when most third world countries have been at it for over 50+ yrs. i don't exactly know if you're from a first world country, but my point still stands lol.
@@valegaleano3026 this is a pretty odd thing to say. just because people live in a first world country doesn't mean everything is automatically easier for them (especially when it comes to financial costs/economic issues). like you said, countries have their economic struggles, especially in canada where i live. the cost of living by yourself is genuinely not possible if you don't have a high paying job (i'm talking 75k yearly at the LEAST). good for you for being in the position to be able to move out by 18/19, but that is definitely not the case for MOST people around that age in a first world country. also, college is a different story. lot's of people move out for college, but they usually come back home when they graduate. i'm pretty sure the original comment is talking about moving out completely,
@@akaashikeijiluvr is it really that odd? or have you ever considered the thought that maybe you're way more priviledged than most the population, and that your "impossibility" to move out doesn't make any sense? like, that's what you said, right? i mean, people that live in a first world country have it way easier than those that live in a third world country, yet we somehow manage to live a good & fullfilling adult life. like, from an objective point of view, what i'm saying is a reality, not something "odd". what i'm trying to prove here is that it isn't "impossible" to move out (as you said) when you have every resource at your disposal, which is your case, since you literally live in Canada.
I think that concerned ape perfectly crafted these ambiguous ages so that each person can fit them around their age range. like i agree on your order, but in my mind they're grouped closer together and a bit younger. which i believe is because because im in my mid twenties and your in your thirties. and like if someone in their early adult years is playing, in their head theyd all be closer to that age. it's a really interesting mechanic and way to make your games romances so much more accessible to the wide audience. i never would have considered that if i was developing a game. chef's kiss
@@kayleighjosiah im 14 and yeah the thought of any of the characters being over 30 was a bit hard to believe, honestly i wouldve believed alot of them were in their teens to early 20s hats off to concernedape for the amazing character writing
in one of his cutscenes, Harvey tells George that "i didnt go to school for 8 years to become a doctor for nothing" or something along those lines so i always headcannoned him to be in his late 20s to early 30s at least
Congratulations! I've always thought of the younger bachelors/ettes as closer to contemporaries. Alex, Abigail and Sebastian particularly seem to have gone to school together, and probably close to the same time as Penny, Alex and Haley.
Thank you !! Interesting !! I would love some more lore concerning all of the bachelor/ettes schooling and where they were born and such, cuz there's no school of any kind in Pelican Town. I wonder if they all rode the bus to Zuzu City for school?
If I remember correctly, CA has said before he sees the marriage candidates as in ther 20's except for Harvey and Elliott, whom he says are older than the others.
@@thebeardedgamer1245 I got a DM from my friend that their comment didnt show up either but they didn't say anything weird or anything like that. I'm trying to respond to every comment, sorry yours didn't go through!!
@@sodorart Oh no worries lol it was probably just RUclips being weird. I don't think I said anything weird I basically just said the same thing the other person here said. Thanks for clearing up any confusion for me though!
I do think this may not be applicable for Emily and Shane, who were added as bachelors later. Especially if you look at Shanes original concept art. Speaking of which, Maru looks SO young in that art, it would explain Demetrius's overprotective attitude. I'd say Sam and Abigal would both be 23 or less. Sam also has a kid brother, which might contribute to his youthful attitude.
@@dandeleon2764 Tbf he said this before he added Shane and Emily as candidates so it's entirely possible and probably pretty likely that they would be included in the "Older than the others" category now. I think around 22-23 is a good number for Abby and Sam considering they're close with Seb and it seems like they've been friends for a long time. Imo I personally see Maru as youngest probably around 20-21 or so. I think Demetrius is just being a typical dad but he just comes off too strong lol.
I find the age gap between Sebastian and Maru much larger. The relationship between Sebastian and Demetrius is strained in a way where i think seb spent enough time with his own dad to be bitter. He would have had to spend enough time with his own dad to now resent Demetrius, which would lead to Maru needing to be significantly younger.
Maru is probably a medical secretary or receptionist. You dont need a medical degree for that, just basic medical terminology and knowledge. I think if she has anydegree it's in engineering.
in my head it was always early 30s: elliot, emily late 20s: harvey, shane mid 20s: leah early 20s: alex, sebastian, maru, hailey, 18/19: abigail, sam, penny
Are you by chance a bit younger? I've noticed the younger a player is, the more their headcanons of the characters' ages defy in-game logic to skew everyone younger. :/
@@EmphaticNodI'm 29 and idk i had this vibe too lmao felt a bit creepy marrying Sebastian because I thought he was in his early 20's. But to be fair seb is literally an emo version of my husband irl lol so idk.
@@EmphaticNodfor me it’s not like “I’m on younger side so I want everyone to be my age”, it’s all that characters like Abi, Alex, Sam (!!), Hailey etc are not mature enough. I can’t picture myself with them, they’re all teenagers, I’m not pedo :( it’s usually young players who choose them. For me it’s always Elliott, Harvey or Leah
I’ve always thought of Maru to be 20, and Sebastian to about 26 because I feel like robin wouldn’t get divorced so early into seb’s childhood. I also think that Sam is about 24 just because of the fact that I feel like he should be close to age with Seb but not over 25 cause his brain is definitely not fully developed (if you don’t know your brain is fully developed at 25) Also thankyou for making this channel and these videos! I love taking to people out stardew lore but most of my friends don’t play and the few that do basically only thing about the romance part.. so thanks for giving me a place to share
@@The.Random.Raccoon I feel the same way, I love talking about Stardew!!! I'm glad you're enjoying the content!! Yeah, you bring up good points. The friend group (Abigail, Sam, Sebastian) is really close, so it would make sense if they were a little closer in age. It's kinda like a domino effect because if Sebastian is made to be younger, then Maru is made younger too, then Penny would probably be younger (since Maru and Penny are very close friends), etc etc LOL
I always figured Maru was considerably younger than Sebastian. Sebastian sometimes mentions remembering little details about his dad, plus, as a younger sibling with an older sibling that's several years older than me, the two of them act exactly like me and my sister. Sebastian seemingly hates Maru and thinks she's spoiled rotten, despite no clear indication of that, and Maru loves Sebastian, even though he's mean to her. I'd sat he's got to be at least 5 years older than her. likely more.
This is definitely an interesting breakdown! I agree with the older candidates for sure, and I'd say my only major disagreement is Sebastian and Maru. While I agree there's way too much stigma on adults living with their parents (as someone who only just bought a house at 29, and only could afford to because I moved back in with my mom for a year) the way Sebastian and Maru interact definitely feel like siblings with a large age gap. I'd be inclined to go so far as to say 6 or 8 years even - enough time for Sebastian to feel the brunt of his parent's divorce and his mom getting remarried, and to not feel like he can relate as easily with his younger sister.
@@Silentgrace11 excellent insight, thank you for sharing. And maybe he even saw Maru getting the "new baby" treatment, so there was a lot of fawning and spoiling, which caused Sebastian to start getting jealous at an early age.
I always had a feeling that Elliot is the oldest, but being so radiant and dressing up all dandy he has some young energy about him. He's a writer and judging from my own experience writers are forever kids living in their heads (which is not a diss!)
I don't remember seeing Maru actually taking care of a patient, so she doesn't need any licence or degree. Troubleshooting medical equipment should come naturally since she grew up with a scientist dad, a carpenter mom and a hacker brother. As for Sebastian, the hacker community has a lot of self-taught kids. I don't think he's been smoking THAT long. Like five years can feel like a long time if you are young and don't really have much happening in your life. If he started at 18 I can imagine him starting to say those things after 5 years at 23.
I think this all seems right except Sebastian. I feel like him and Sam are really close wnd him and Abigail seem to have a "thing"... and I don't see an almost 30 yr old hanging out with 22 yr olds. but you never know lol I think he is a little younger than 29 for sure.
I always thought of Maru as the youngest. Maybe it's controversial, but I headcanon Sebastian being about 23-26 (mostly held up by the fact he implies that if he went to college, he would be a relatively recent graduate. something along the lines of "If I had went to college, I could've graduated a couple years ago and be making 6 figures by now", as someone who works in tech, people often start work very young. Certifications are waaay more valued than degrees, I've never seen a tech job ask for anything higher than an AS as far as college goes, and mostly ask for certs. I got lucky and had dual enrollment with a votech school for a year and a half in high school, and I'm working a tech job at 18 because of how quick a lot of certification programs are. At maximum, assuming he wasn't training in high school, he would be no older than 21 if he went to college for computer science) and from what other people said about Seb remembering his father and resenting Demetrius and Maru. Im not 100% sure if it's vanilla, but I often get a dialog from Maru that says something along the lines of "I'm still not sure what kind of science I want as a career. I love robotics, but I also love working at Harvey's clinic" the jobs Maru does are jobs often given to interns (I have family in medical, med interns are required to sign contracts that say they will obey HIPPA) combined with her curiosity, never showing up in the saloon, and overall vibe, I'd pin Maru as young as 19 years old, or even 18
For me I’d say Harvey and Elliot in their early thirties, Leah being 29 along side Shane, Sebastian being 25 and Maru being 20, Sam and haley being 21 and Emily being 27, Abigail being 20 penny being 26 and Alex being about 22
I think, with the way that the notes specifically point out that he's a little too old to be a bachelor, I think Harvey has got to be in his mid-to-late 40s. Someone has got to make a mod that gives him some grey hairs.
I would say Penny is 22 at oldest. She is someone with a lot of spirit backed up. Being the way that she is, I’m sure she would have found some way to move out by 26 (Zuzu City, college in-person, etc.). 22, I think, is an age that makes sense for her to still be living with her mother and speak the way that she does in her free time. Her dialogue where she mentions reading so much because she longs for a different world doesn’t give me the signal of someone over the age of 25. As for her being a teacher, I don’t believe that she’s already obtained a bachelor’s. An associate’s, maybe, but I’ve always imagined that she’s spending her money towards online classes, books, or books about how to improve as an educator. As well, she initially has a crush on Sam. Sam is quite immature at times, like when he tries to sneak you into his bed so that his mother doesn’t know. This is not the behavior of someone used to being an adult. For Penny to have a crush on him, I would argue that she would have to be only slightly older than him, within one or two years. That said, she only really has a crush on Sam because he has a childish personality, one that Penny never got to have because of her upbringing. That isn’t the behavior of someone who has had ample time to adjust to adulthood, especially in a small town.
your defense of Shane's placement in my mind rapidly kept adding year after year to that 32 years old. By the time you were done i was ready and on board for Shane to be older than Harvey 😅
5:25 I feel so called out. I did get called “old” at 22 by younger college students when I was in grad school and, later, when I was paid to play with my grad school college’s band because my brother was attending that university and they needed more good trumpet players. I shock people with my age because I’m short and babyfaced. I think my aging is just concentrated to my back and shoulders.
Wasn’t mentioned for him but I just found out when dating Harvey a dialogue can come up with him mentioning something similar to Elliot about feeling older, more melancholy, and worn out from his life at times. Yet he adds in shyly at the end that maybe it’ll be a good thing for him to be dating us, since it might help him feel young. Definitely talks like someone well into their thirties dating a potentially early to mid twenty-something player to me. I feel it’s the biggest canon clue on the potential noticeable age gap between him and the player.
Sam and Abigail are about the same age to me (18-22) because both of them still talk about doing school work. Sebastian is a little tricky for me because i recall having a piece of dialogue where he talks about college but simultaneously it seems like he has a job as a programmer already, so to me Sebastian might be around 22-25. I also always assumed Sebastian probably started smoking as a 16 year old.
12:05 as someone who literally has this job I had 0 schooling on it and the clinicians don’t even know how the equipment works. I mean they know how to use it on a patient but putting it together or fixing it when it breaks?? Nah they got nothing. The reason I know how to do all of that is because I read all of the information for each machine and I’ve got a knack for fiddling with tech. So as someone with basically the same job I’d say it’s very likely she has no formal medical training and just knows basic stuff from being on the job. You don’t need to go to medical school to handle medical paperwork and it’s more just along the lines of understanding HIPPA.
I always go for harvey in my playthroughs, i have him as 35 in my head. The younger batchelors (sam, sebastian, abigail, alex, haley) all seem teenagery in their personalities to me which is probably why i steer clear of romancing them 😅😅
The old saying is "Old is 20 years older than you are." Edit: That's why people in their thirties start thinking of themselves as "old" for a little while. There's something that happens to your brain when you vividly remember something that happened 20 years ago, when not so long ago it seems that you thought 30 was SO far away. I remember rolling my eyes when I had the "time moves faster the older you get" talk with my mom in the car when I was eight. Suddenly I was 18 and I thought I understood. I really thought I understood better at 28. Now I'm a lot closer to 38.
i don't think that's true... kent left for war when sam was "not yet a man" but vincent remembers spending time with kent before so sam is definitely younger. abigail is college age while seb already has a degree and is working...
the reason i think shane is a bit younger is cause of marnie and jas. marnies age i would put around 45-50 so if he is her nephew i would subtract 20 years and thats around 25-30. also if he was friends with jas parents she 8 (i think) and once again 20 years puts him around 28 if hes withing the same age. so 25-30 seams right.
I love your thought process of trying to think how old they all are! I think a great video idea since you just did. This one would be trying to find out the ages of the non-mirable NPC! ❤❤
My theory: 35+: Harvey, 30-35: Eliot, Shane, Leah 27-30: Seb, Emily 25-27: Alex, Hailey, Penny 20-25: Sam, Maru, Abigail. A lot of people say that since Seb, Abby and Sam are all close friends they must be close in age but as someone from a small town, if you’re a goth/emo/punk in a small town, you take the friends you can get regardless of age lol I think there’s about 2-3 years of age difference between each of them, with Seb being oldest, Sam middle and Abby youngest. Around 27-25-22 is how I see them
MY ANALYSIS OF THE AGE GROUPS: Mid 30s (33-36): -Harvey (8yrs in medical school) -Elliott (Too mature to be young) Late 20s (27-29): -Shane (he looks old because of depression and alcoholism) -Emely (works at bar, mature mindset if set aside the weirdness) -Leah (confident living alone in the woods) Mid 20s (23-25): - Sebastian (Mindset too old, Style is too young) -Maru (Bright future ahead, still full of ambition) -Penny (something about this woman scream "i've been suffering in my mother's house my whole life, but I wasn't crazy long enough to abandon her, so I still took care of her, in the meantime." Early 20s (20-21): -Alex (This fucking arrogant jerk still think he's a highschooler jock, oh god thanks he's sexy) -Haley (Every Alexes-type-of-guy girlfriend in highschool) -Abigail ("Hehe i eat rocks") -Sam (such. A. Baby. Weenie)
I always thought they would be between 18 and 27 with Harvey being the oldest. With 8 years of medical school (which he states in a cutscene ) and him being new to stardew, he could be even younger... Depends on when he started school. I don't think there is anyone beyond 30.
In my recent playthrough I noticed Elliott say something that seemed to imply he moved to Stardew pretty immediately after leaving his parent's house, and since he's only been in Stardew a year when the farmer comes it might suggest he's a bit younger, but also as you point out there's not really a strict age that people move out and he might have stayed with them latter to save up money
Idk I always imagined Sebastian to be in his early 20’s. I think it was because Sebastian always hung out with Sam. Sam’s hobby is skateboarding, and in one of the heart events even blames you for dropping an egg . I always imagined them childish things, and imagining that Sebastian, Abigail and Sam were really close, I all imagined Sebastian be a lot younger.
@@sodorart that’s true. Since she does know a lot of robotics I never imagined her age coming into play (I forget about Mary and Penny half of the time 😭) though I could imagine Sebastian, Abigail and Sam to be all in their early twenties like 21-23 I think it would be right to assume since Maru has never had a medical degree, and how much time she has spent inventing I’d assume she’d be 18-20 as well. Though my assumptions could be well off 😭
AS someone in my early 30s - the description of "Early 30s describing themselves as old" is so valid. I have a bunch of friends under 36 and they're all like "ugh I'm sooo old" - had a friend who is 34 saying if their partner broke it off, that'd be it for them since they'd be too old to date. Like ...bro what? I do think the Shane as a godfather thing also has nothing to do with his age. My parents had my brother and I in their 30s and we had godparents all lined up, but those godparents became bio parents in their 40s. I think if they were THAT good of friends with Shane, they probably did it as soon as they knew they were having a kid more out of trust and closeness and ASSUMING he wouldn't need to take her any time soon. It seems like his friends died young [and with the skid marks outside of the bus area I wonder if that's a hint as to /how/ even if they were elsewhere]. So I think he was /maybe/ in his late 20s when they died but he's in his 30s now that we meet him/now that he's come to live with Marnie. And there is a secret note of Marnie with a MUCH younger Jas - and Penny's "How to teach the second grade" books imply that the kids are in 2nd grade - so about 7-8 years old. And Marnie mentions that Shane's only been there a few months - so if that picture is accurate - Jas has been with Marnie longer than Shane has, and Marnie says he was in a bad place before -- leading me to believe he asked his aunt for help, she took Jas in, and then eventually took Shane in because he was getting even worse since he was in a bad place BEFORE his friends passed away.
@@Crow_Smith awesome insight, thank you for the write up!! Yeah I'm getting a lot of "Ugh my back ALWAYS hurts, I'm SO old!!!" from friends in their early 30s.... who don't exercise and live sedentary lifestyles... 😐 Very annoying. The idea that "life just ends when you're old" is so sad too. "I'm too old to do XYZ" is just gonna hold people back, truly.
@@sodorart It's so wild to me to hear it from 30 somethings, meanwhile my 60 year old mom is like "I'll quit when I literally have no other option." - I think you just gotta have that midlife "I'm so old" followed by that "Revival of youth" crisis phase [which I hear the midlife crisis happens between 30 and 60] and then you get stubborn and surprised at how much you can do for your age lol.
I personally don't think Sebastian would be older than 27. For a lot of online jobs involving programming, it doesn't need a whole lot of credentials like Harvey's medical degree. Sure you'd need some level of coding knowledge so you could keep your job, but you could take online courses that just span months. Plus, Sebastian's job strikes me as entry-level, given that he hasn't been able to move out yet. High-level programming jobs net you a significant salary. And with the smoking habit, I'd have to agree with the others that he picked it up young (sadly). In one of Robin's dialogues, she mentions finding a tray in his room that "smells funny", and asking the farmer if she should be concerned about it, which gives me the impression that he's been trying to hide it from his mom. If Sebastian were as old as you mention, and with his personality, I'd assume he wouldn't care hiding his habit from his mom. I'd think he picked it up maybe because Maru outshines him since they were kids, plus living in a basement would be a little depressing lmao.
@@sodorart thanks for reading my rambling too! i found your channel through this video and you're quickly becoming one of my favorite stardew valley related channels hehe 🫶💖
Now I want see a theory video that explain the relationship dynamics of the friend groups and families that we don’t see much of in the game. Like the friend group Abigail, Sebastian, and Sam feels like a group that was just establish due to circumstance. Sam didn’t know that Abigail can played the drums and we don’t see Abigail playing DnD game with Sebastian and Sam in Sebastian 6 heart scene. We don’t see Alex hang out with anybody other then Haley but after the community center, he see him engaging with the trio so I wondering if Sam and Alex used to be close friends as children but maybe grown apart as teens?
i love this so much!!! your video is so insightful and referencing the game instead of just purely guessing (like most people) is so refreshing :D thank you for this ^_^
Great analysis!! I agree on all your points! I agree that Harvey would be by far the oldest. I would personally even go as far as to say he could be in his 40s. He explicitly says he’s been through 8 years of medical school. That, plus being able to open and run his own clinic? That’s not something you can just do over night. THANK YOU for acknowledging that Sebastian could be in his early 30s. So many people (heck, myself included when I first played the game) peg him as super young just because he lives with his parents and is friends with Sam and Abby. Not only are there plenty of economic reasons to still be dependent on your parents well into adulthood, also, in a small town, especially if you’re ’different’ in any way, you likely aren’t going to be picky about ages with friends. There’s not that many people in town, if you share the same vibe and get along well, you’re friends. Who cares how much older or younger you are?
Penny isn’t a teacher, she’s a tutor. She’s trying her best to give the children a good education despite the lack of a school. She’s also close friends with Sam and I feel it would be weird for someone in their late 20’s for her only friend to be the better half of a decade younger than her. I think she’s most likely a similar age to Abigail and Sam
If Alex is "around 25" then I really hate to break it to him, but no professional sports team is looking to pick up a 25 year old rookie from some random farm village, who plays catch with himself every day.
In my headcannon Alex is below 21, since he doesn't appear in saloon (before certain event), which may be a hint that he's under 21 and (since it's based on USA) isn't allow to drink
That is definitely an interesting headcanon, but likewise I would pose the counter that we find out from his four heart event that his father was an abusive alcoholic. I almost wonder if that has an influence on his willingness to hang out in the saloon.
@@goldbaum5297 Very true, but likewise people can have different reactions to the same trauma. As someone who personally has experience with alcoholics in the family that has impacted me severely, while I enjoy the occasional alcoholic beverage (particularly I like how the components of the alcohol contribute to the drink, in a culinary sense), I don't like being in places where I'm exposed to drunken behavior like bars or large parties. Of course, that's a personal anecdote at the end of the day, but I'd say both possibilities are equally viable, and maybe both technically apply (where he is too young, but will still refrain once he's of age).
@@Silentgrace11Oh, that makes sense. He has strong negative feelings towards *alcohol places*, since he correlates them with his father more than alcohol itself. Sure, it may be
I question how some of these ages work when we compare them to their parents, though. Just taking Sebastian and Maru into consideration, Robin doesn't feel like she's that old. I've always assumed she was late-thirties/early-forties, considering that she works a very physically demanding job and always seems super energetic, as can be seen in most Events where she likes to complain that Dimitrius doesn't dance enough for her liking. So even with the full benefit of the doubt on that range, and saying Robin is just a very lively 45, that still makes her a 16-year old teen mom to Sebastian, and then having Maru at 18/19 years old based on your age suggestions. I'm not saying that's not possible, but it feels oddly out of place within the setting, and makes it seem odd that she was able to start a business that requires her to be away working at job sites for days on end as a teenager with 1 or 2 babies. I'd definitely put Sebastian and Maru in their lower 20's due to that logic alone.
a dialogue with emily (it could be either a heart event or the community center completion, i forgot) says that abigail had at least finished college, she weaved something for her that hasn't been used in a long time. also i think sebby is at least younger than penny, just to make it less weird having a crush on abigail
I think Emily is older. She didn't use to be a bachelorette at first, and is Sandy's bestie. She has an own job as fashion designer but also helps Gus in the saloon. She takes care of the house too, so I'd put her near to Harvey.
I was told I was super close to what the devs claim, or so the person claims the devs told them. I said Abigail saw just turning 18 or going onto 19, being gothy, and child like, and join a band. But also it was said she was the youngest of them all. So she has to be 18 Penny being a teacher like lady, but lives with a drunk mother and kinda taking care of her. Penny has to be at least 21 fresh out of school and teaching the kids what she knows. Maru is kind of a rocket scientist. And a part time nurse. So reasons to stand that she is early 20s, so maybe 21-24 Leah had a lover before lives in the city with them alone, so she has to be well in her 20s, so 24-26. Haley being younger then her sister, giving off a right away high school cheerleader like personally, and a smaller room then her sister is fair to say Emily is older and is allowing her sister to say with her. Haley I’ll say is 19-20. (2nd youngest) Speaking of Emily Being older the Haley, having a bigger room and most likely ownership of the house, she is about 2-3 years older. So Emily is 21-23. As for the males Sebastian has a man cave, is in a band and gothy, early 20’s at best , so 21-24 Sam Skateboarding, in a band with Seb. Also early 20s 21-24 Harvey, maybe the oldest of the group. He is a doctor. PhD and all. That’s a little over 4 years in colleges so with him he has to be late 20s early 30s , so 27-32 Elliott maybe the 2nd oldest, living on his own much like Leah, has a look like he would claim to be better than everyone. And is into Leah and could be like “date and marry me and I’ll teach you all the is about art. Alex much like Haley but instead of high school he would be in college going for a football scholarship. So he would be early to mid 20s , so 22-25 And Shane maybe another older guy. He drinks, getting drunk a lot. Works a job he hates and he hate life from what I can tell. To get to that point of actions and feeling I say he is in the top 3 oldest males. 27-32+
And now having watched this video now(the first post was done without watching it yet) Surprised to see and hear the other characters info. And some wow kinda wrong on how they are, but also kinda right with age grouping, Now her age group is about older and what not then mine. But to say Harvey, Shane, and Elliot, being the top 3 oldest, is wow. To hear Emily is older and the care taker, is wow. And everyone else kinda in the ball park. So heh. ……neat.
Living at home and being “young” should be considered outdated now, nearly everyone I know was or has adult kids living at home. I made being a working adult living at home part of my farmers backstory, that’s why she’s so depressed and broke at the start of the game. Age wise it’s based on my own moving out experience and my fantasy path not taken. She’s 29 about to turn 30, burnt out and sinks all of her working through her 20’s savings that was suppose to be a home deposit into fixing the farm. This is the part where I imagine I defied my parent’s plan for me and my money. I wish I turned 30 in Pelican town!
I love this! Thank you for the statement about living with your parents not being a huge factor. I mean, no one thinks that about Shane and he still lives with family. It's bizarre. I will say, I see Sam as older. Probably around the rage of Seb. My thoughts around this are Jodi can be quite controlling/overbearing (as shown with the egg breaking event). I feel like even if Sam was older she'd be stuck in "he's my baby!" kinda of views and not allow him to cook/clean much as it's not "her way." Kent being gone might also play into that: he's been gone for a while possibly and she's got a chokehold on Sam so he doesn't leave as well. Combine that with Kent clearly having PTSD: of course Sam's more on the childish side. He's being held onto super tight by a mom whose afraid. His fixation on a skate park and all that might also be a bit of the fear of growing up that hits when the world decides your ancient at 30. He sees the number coming/or it has came and he's like absolutely not. I'm not old yet. And threw himself into it. Just like a lot of people I know picking up hobbies from their childhood again as adults now that they "have adult money." (It may also be slightly because I'm 30 almost 30 and love him and want him to be older, shhhh haha. ) But honestly: I know people like him well into their 30s.
@@Asteriax3 thanks for commenting! I'm also in my 30s and I know people that are like Sam and are easily 30. I agree about Jodi and Kent playing a huge role in how Sam is able to express himself and be independent (or not). I think if a lot of us were in Pelican Town, we'd all still be living with our families well into our 30s and not moving out until we're married!
This was a really cool video idea and I like the reasoning behind most picks. Even though I personally disagree with a few of them, I can understand the logic used for these guesses. There’s a few interesting ones to me, but I think one of the biggest ones I haven’t really seen anyone else mention yet is Alex. Based of his personality, his life, who he associates with, etc. I do feel like right around 25 is the most logical age for him, he feels like he’s around 25. However the biggest issue with this is the fact that he’s still somewhat holding on to his pipe dream of making it big and becoming a professional athlete. I think the game somewhat implies he is a tiny bit too old, and wasn’t quite good enough to achieve that dream, but being 25 and still holding out hope for that is completely unrealistic. I think at the absolute oldest end he’d have to be around 22-23 to believably have that as a character trait. Maybe even a little younger. If you are going to be a pro athlete, you’ll likely know for sure by around 18-20, and arguably could still have a tiny shot around 20-23, which is the age group I feel like suits Alex’s sports dreams. He does ‘feel’ like he’s around 25 in many ways, but I just don’t think that’s very believable with his goals. If I had to guess I’d say he’s 22 (maybe 23), which would also place Haley at about 23 for me, and therefore Emily around 26.
On the above 30 side I totally agree, regarding Sebastian I think he's early to mid 20s he strikes me as the type to smoke underage as he a rebellious streak while I think Maru is deciding on a degree which is why she's doing odd jobs and tinkering in her room which in my mind puts her at 20 ish and in competion with Sam and Alex as the younger bachor/ette. I also think Abi is a similar age to each other, I picture them as being in school together and bonding in their teen years over their family issues, Caroline viewing Abi as being younger is more to do with their family dynamic, also being frustrated at your daughter for being in uni and still reliant on you reads as very postgrad/masters experience to me. Alex also seems slightly younger to me because of the death of his mam and not really remembering her as well as the amount of growth he goes through reads as just entering the real world.
I think Emily is the oldest based on Pierre’s community center completion cutscene dialogue. He said that the community center was bustling when he moved to Pelican Town and that Emily spent years weaving the Stardew Fair banner. Abigail was conceived in Pelican Town, so if we reasonably estimate Emily was 18 when she started working on the banner and Abigail is exactly 18 considering Emily brings up Abi’s graduation party, that makes Emily at least 36. Also Emily and Shane were never meant to be datable, so it would make sense that they’re older than the other 10 marriage candidates.
Pierre didn't actually say Emily just started working on the banner when he first moved there. It could've easily been just 5 to 10 years ago. Despite her maturity, I feel like Emily seems a bit younger than for example Harvey, Elliot or Leah (I'd say they're in their early 30s).
Emily is also similar to Maru in terms of being gifted and working part-time to fund their actual interests. So I'm not sure she'd be much older than the latter.
It's implied she makes money off of her tailoring too, I think. She's the only seamstress in town and possibly sells her clothes online based on the computer in her room. She probably made the clothes Sandy sells as well.
@@sodorart Yes he is her godfather, but he is also her uncle, so they are related. Jas says "Uncle Shane's in the barn" in the 8 heart event cutscene. Why did she also called him her parents' friend we can only guess. Maybe he was a cousin of one of her parents and a close friend of the other.
I read Maru as early 20s personally - I could even see her being as young as 21, which would actually be enough time to become a fully credentialed nurse, definitely enough time for something like CNA training. In her 2-heart scene, Demetrius warns you away and says she's got a bright future ahead of her, which also seems to point toward early 20s, as it's kind of in the same vein as Abigail with being treated like a child. I also read Alex as 19, mayyybe 20. The memories of being a star high school athlete seem like they're pretty fresh for him. If he were 25, he'd have much more "guy who peaked in high school" vibes, I think. Be he doesn't, and instead seems like he's just starting to figure out that his dreams of his future were maybe a bit too idealistic and that he doesn't quite know where to go next. I also can see Haley as anywhere in the 20-25 range - she's a bit harder to pinpoint for me!
Another thing that I think makes it hard to tell the age gap with Shane and Elliot to me is they seem to be interested in things outside of their physical age. Young vs Old soul kinda vibes. Shane is still interested in video games, eating junk food, and bar culture. Makes me think of someone just finishing undergrad who was forced to grow up too soon because of Jas’ situation. But the idea of him being around 25 feels way too young to me. Meanwhile Elliot is the “I like pina coladas and getting caught in the rain” type. The “I was born in the wrong generation” kinda guy, almost wise beyond his years. But the idea of him being in his late 30s feels too old also.
normal people: Oh god I'm 30! when did I get old? My friends when they were in their mid 20"s: Oh God, I'm old. When did i get so old? Me: I'm reaching my mid 30's and i finally feel like an adult. Hopefully my 40's don't break me, when I reach them. XD
I think Shane just looks older because of his mental and drinking issues. I always headcanoned him and Elliot as being a similar age, with a year or two between them. So, pretty much what you said, haha
Penny's age has always been the most ambiguous to me, and that's coming from a guy who marries every single playthrough. Every character exudes some sort of younger or older energy from how they act, Abby takes online classes, Haley is your typical high school mean girl, Alex is the typical jock type, Harvey is a full on doctor, and Elliot looks like Fabio and no one looks like that until they're at least 35. You get the gist. But Penny is just a shy sweet teacher, she could be anywhere from 22-30 and it'd fit honestly. That being said, I think you're really on the mark with 26. Its a solid age where she'll have taught herself enough to teach the current children in town, and also really start wanting to have a family of her own. The late 20s *is* typically when people start to worry about getting married or having kids, so it fits her perfectly.
this is such a good video, your explanations were so interesting to listen to and i agree with pretty much everything here!! i’ve also always thought that elliott is older than shane by a couple of years, because i love the contrast and comedic potential of this absolute adonis of a man actually being older than a guy who has custody of a child and looks aged and haggard due to depression. @ concernedape i need their opposites attract friendship to be canon
First time playing i played as a girl (i love strong women) and due to passing out and fainting a lot, i went with Harvey, reason being my girl will need someone to patch her up LOL
I will say I feel Sebastian is 25 Max personally cuz at least at the time the game came out most states had the legal age to buy cigs at 18 (in recent years some states are raising it to 21) and I smoked on and off with friends occasionally as a teen and I at 24 crave cigs sometimes when stressed and ive only smoked a handful of cigarettes before so a lot of it comes down to the individual person. So he very much could have been smoking maybe a stolen cig here and there as a teen then smoke 18 to like 24 or whenever he meets you and that'd still be at least 6 years to build the addiction. Plus if imagine he's close in age to sam and Abby tho obviously that's not a requirement for friendship lol And for maru I know some basic nursing programs are only 2 years which would explain her mainly working at the desk and occasionally helping with equipment only and never actually being in the back with patients, and would still allow for her to be very young. Especially how her dad talks about the player "getting in the way of her bright future" which you don't usually hear parents talking about their kids like that past their early 20s so I always viewed her more along the lines 21 or 22. Obviously these are just my thoughts tho lol considering there's no set answers I liked hearing your reasoning
As someone who also believes in 30s Leah and late 20s Sebastian I thank you for this ranking. Also super super thankful that you touched on the "this character lives with their parents therefore they must be young" thing that I see so much online. I hadn't considered Emily as early 30s but as late 20s, but tbh I think you've convinced me on that, she does seem like an early 30s person who is responsible but also has been around long enough to know that it's okay to be whimsical and eccentric
Something I was thinking about during Sebastian's section was that his programming i nsing a job it's a hobby, and while I'm sure he's had a few small jobs from it, it's not a complete job. During diolouge from just talking to Sebastian, you can getthe words "You must make a lot of money working on your farm," the talk to him directly after he'll finish with " Maybe I should get a job soon" so I feel as though Sebastian should be a little younger, comparing with the fact he doesn't seem to find of Demetrius . Just my opinion tho. (Sorry for any typos, my phone is mean)
That's a really cool idea collecting all the little pieces of hints or evidence! I always assumed Abigail to be the youngest just because she and farmer are the only adults doing the egg hunt. And for Harvey, Shane and Elliott I found the note in-game. But now that I saw this, I'm sure you pretty much nailed it!
I took Abi, Sam and Maru to be the youngest because they do the egg hunt, but I also thought Penny was the same age because she is good friends with Maru ands apparently had a crush on Sam.
I made another video talking about Sebastian and Maru's ages specifically based on yalls comments, check it out: ruclips.net/video/1Y_8vLvadwY/видео.html
@@sodorart i love Sebastian He is my husband
Considering that Sebastian, Sam, and Abigail are like best friends I kinda feel like all three of them would be around the same age.
There probably 29-31
Sam wasn’t a man yet when Kent left and Vincent can remember his father enough to know he’s changed. Kent was a soldier not like a commanding officer so he’d have to be young and healthy enough to be fit to fight. He seems like 19 years old to me.
Sebastian has a younger sister with a different father who’s old enough to go have gone to school to be a nurse. I’d guess 30 years old for Sebastian.
Abigail is still in school and talks about homework but never talks about anything substantial like going for her masters degree or writing a dissertation. I’m guessing early 20s
I dont really see the logic, people do have older friends especially from common Interest.
When I was 18 I had friends in their 20s and 30s 😊
Sebastian’s dialogue in the saloon on fridays makes me feel like he’s an older mentor-ish for the two. He says “should I let sam win for once? nah” It gives your cool older next-door neighbor who takes you and you friends out on weekends vibes.
I bet Alcohol abuse played a part in making Shane look older than Elliott.
Ye, Shane also got this "I'm doomed anyway" attitude, so he doesn't really care for his looks, while Elliot on other hand seems like a person who didn't really do much hard work in his life so it's logical he would look younger.
Being a wizards son is hard
This. Shane is obviously depressed and drinks alot to cope with it. Elliott on the other hand says he goes out for walks and excercises regularly to maintain his physique, he also admits it takes him a while to brush his hair
@@patryhy1475 And Elliott is VERY concerned with his appearance.
Oh, it absolutely does. My mum is a recovering alcoholic (27 years clean!), and people frequently mistake her as my grandmother. Substance abuse can age a person by several decades, especially if there's immense stress and/or mental health involved.
There’s gotta be a bigger age gap between Maru and Sebastian. Sebastian’s relationship with Demetrius doesn’t feel like Demetrius has been in Sebastian’s life since he was two years old. I’d put them 6 years apart at minimum.
@@CatherineKimport interesting! So maybe Maru would be 23 and Sebastian would be 29?
@@sodorart Yeah that makes more sense to me.
Demetrius treats Sebastian pretty shitty, so I think that does make sense anyways
@@weirdweirdstuff3644 judge from book in bedroom, look like he try ay first but quickly give up🙄
@@sodorart I think it's also important to take in robin and demetrius's age when considering how old their kids may be. I think bringing up that sebastian and demetrius seem to have a strained relationship is a valid point and speaks to sebastian's age. Robin herself does not appear to be very old. She's very lively and obviously is still capable of handling a physically demanding career like carpentry. If I had to guess, robin had sebastian at a pretty young age and possibly never married the baby daddy. Demetrius is very protective of Maru, almost like he hasn't yet come to terms with the fact that Maru is an adult, similar to Caroline with Abigail.
honesly i think elliot is in the 40ish range
he just seems like the type of person that is old, but is so well kept that they look younger
yeah, and i also feel like ppl like him tend to have a "younger soul" lol
I was thinking this too. I think he’d be the same age as Harvey but just seems younger because he is so well kept and he has a more carefree lifestyle.
40ish is not old.
actually i do have an artist friend who's in her 40s but dress, looks and behaves younger than that, i mean you can kinda see she's not in her 20s but i didn't expect her to be 40+ with three diplomas either when i found out, and she's also not all that settled in her life, she had a marriage that didn't work and her job isn't stable, she lives with her mom but in general she is cheerful, vibes well and do lots of stuff, i was taking free theathre and choral lessons with her
also she's probably neurodivergent and i see elliot as one as well (probably bc CA is autistic or smth himself and that leaks into his characters, i know how it works from my own experience lmaoooo), so i totally can believe him being 40+, especially counting that he's dropped everything and went away to live on the beach, he's probably had a lot of stuff before, burned himself out and just run away to 100% his special interest (I CAN FEEL THAT TOO HARD but im in mid20s)
I'm sure that in somebody's save they are all 100+ years old. All at the same time young and old
1:40 In one of George's heart events, Harvey tells him that he spent 8 years in medical school
On top of roughly 4 years in college, we can assume. Plus residency to become a fully licensed, independent physician which is a minimum of 3 more years. So, if Harvey went to college straight out of high school AND found himself opening his private practice in Pelican Town within a year or two after (maybe he even did his residency there with whoever was the town's doctor before), he'd be at LEAST 35-36 years old.
All this to say yeah, I think his placement on this list is pretty accurate. :)
Is it reasonable to assume schools work identically to America in Stardew Valley? Maybe they have a whole different system in this world.
@@asafoetidajones8181 thats about the same as it is here in auz
That's actually Harvey's heart event, not George's.
@@asafoetidajones8181 Most developed countries operate similarly. If they're different, they aren't off by more than a couple years. That is to say, you aren't going to find many doctors opening their own practices in their late 20's, even in most rural parts of the world.
Even all that aside though, I think it IS reasonable to assume schools work in SDV the same way they do in the US. ConcernedApe is an American developer, and most of the characters and culture explored within the games points to a modern western setting at the very least.
I have always felt there was a bit more of an age gap between Sebastian and Maru simply because they are half siblings. Robin doesn't seem the kind to cheat so one can assume that she had been separated or widowed or whatever for a while before she started dating Demetrius. that and the relationship between Sebastian and Demetrius makes me think he knew his real father.
As for Maru's education ... She is clearly a genius, she probably skipped a few grades and got into college early.
@@alyshaharper8730 Maru being a genius and finish school super early never occurred to me! 🤔 Great insight, thank you for sharing!
i personally think sebastian is younger than 29, mostly because he's friends with sam and abigail. his smoking problem could have started when he was a teenager and hid it from his mom. i can't explain his job lol, but i feel like seb would be 26, and maru would be maybe 25-24
Even if his smoking problem didn't start as a teenager, nicotine addiction is super difficult to kick. Within a month of my friend giving me her vape during a hard time for my mental health, I was severely addicted to nicotine. I've been vaping for over two and a half years now and every day I wish I could quit. I tried to cut it out completely once, but the withdrawals drove me crazy and I ultimately fell back into the habit. Since then I've lowered the amount of nicotine from 20mg to 6mg, and I don't vape quite as much as I used to because of work, but I am in no way close to quitting- as much as I want to.
@@crypticaqua8758 first of all i’m really sorry that must be really rough; second of all i said what ages i think he could be and if he started when he was let’s say 16 or 17 that would’ve been 8-10 years of addiction (idk if that’s what you were saying but still)
@@yourstruly.hannah I think I was just adding on to what you said, it was implied in the video that Sebastian has to be older than Sam and Abigail because he smokes, as if it takes a really long time for someone to develop a nicotine addiction. I think I was just agreeing with you and stating that even if he didn't start smoking as a teen, he could still be within that range and be addicted to nicotine but also wishing he could quit smoking for his health
@@crypticaqua8758 ohh okay i understand now lol
I mean I’m 27 and my good friend is 19 cuz we met at uni where I’m very late going back to get my degree and she’s fresh
Since shane is jas’ godfather itd be cute and nice if she moved in with you guys too
But then I wonder if you could still have 2 kids if that happened. Would Jas count as one kid?
@@truthseeker9249 can you also stork her with the shrine?
@@shreyaspamaraju262 These are the questions.
@@truthseeker9249 focusing on the real mysteries
@@shreyaspamaraju262WHY!?!?!?
Personally I think it’s a good thing that the ages are generally up to interpretation. I feel like with a game like this with marriage candidates for the player, it’s better to keep ages ambiguous so people don’t feel weird about a character being too old/young. I say this because a game I’m currently playing has a marriage candidate who is confirmed to be *18 years old*, which drives me nuts every time I think about it. 18 is not old enough to be getting married no matter how you look at it 💀
Like half of them act like they're 15 anyway tbf. Abigail for example. We're supposed to hate Pierre for forcing her to do chores or whatever but she's apparently an adult who has no job and just kicks rocks all day long. Same with Sebastian, Alex, Haley, this is so deeply unattractive of them lol its like youre babysitting. Sebastian declaring that he's totally gonna get a super good job out of nowhere (
@@KOTEBANAROT did you even watch the video? abigial is still in school thats why she lives with her parents and has no job
@@KOTEBANAROT you’re so right. I had married sebastian before but his lack of ambition is a huge turn off. Didn’t realize till now it’s bc of his immaturity too
I don’t really know what you mean by this comment. I personally know more than one 18 year old that is happily married.
I was still feeling weird romancing Sebastian, cause it felt like I was romancing 18 year old. Mostly because his behavior reminded me of myself at that age. I am 27 and it's hard for me to believe that this character is my age. Though, he still lives with his parents..maybe that's why he does not feel experienced in life.
While Sam is definitely a baby I think Alex is potentially the youngest bachelor.
In his 8 heart even he says it’s the 12 year anniversary of his mother’s death. He also says he was too young to thank her, they just played sports and he remembers her cooking. To me that says he was like 10 at the oldest
Also I’m not sure if this is right but isn’t he out of high school hoping to get drafted to a college team?
I know his father an alcoholic but he likes alcohol just fine as a gift but never goes to the bar, even in the first green rain even. Maybe he’s too young to drink 😅
Maybe that’s why he grows so much as a person 😂
My take on Alex's view on alcohol is that he generally doesn't care about it and normally doesn't feel the need to drink it, but he can still enjoy a glass or two if it's offered by someone else.
@@ValeriaPaper Yeah that’s totally reasonable and an interesting contrast to how much Penny hates alcohol.
He goes into the saloon for the date scene with the farmer for dinner
He goes to the saloon every Sunday if you give him the money for his 14 heart event and watches tv in the backroom that he buys with the money
Also he's a gym bro who's watching what he eats and trying to be healthy, so he could avoid alcohol for that reason, like many do in real life.
I’ve always pictured Leah between 26-28. She said her and her ex were just scraping by so there def wasn’t a long term investment in the cabin, and it is quite small so probs wouldn’t need that much. Plus she’s still young enough to still want to make an effort to become an artist but also old enough to have been in a long term relationship of sharing an apartment. I also imagined Sebastian to be the oldest in his friend group of Sam and Abigail, though by about 2-3 years, and Sam and Seb always felt closer with Abigail being more on the outer, implying she may be younger. Apart from that I think this is very accurate!
I agree, that was my first thought when I saw Leah.
Its just not possible to leave your parents house at the ripe age of 18 anymore its too expensive. It bothers me when people still have this mindset that people need to be moved out immediately when todays economy just cant support it. Im glad you touched on this topic for the video, awesome age analysis I definitely agree on all of them ❤
@@Legendary_dragoon34 ESPECIALLY when in most of the world, it is normal and common to stay with your parents well after 18!
i wouldn't say it's THAT impossible to move out at 18. i live in a third world country with a huge, and i really mean /huge/, economic crisis (Argentina) and most, if not all, the young adults i know (myself included) have already moved out by 18/19 to go to college. i'll admit that education and healthcare are completely free over here, but still, living in the situation we are forced to face every day, i wouldn't say it's completely impossible.
i understand that other countries may have their own economic struggles, and i'm really sorry about that because i know it's not exactly a pretty situation to be put in, but it kinda makes me giggle when people that live in first world countries say that they are facing a rough time when most third world countries have been at it for over 50+ yrs. i don't exactly know if you're from a first world country, but my point still stands lol.
@@valegaleano3026 this is a pretty odd thing to say. just because people live in a first world country doesn't mean everything is automatically easier for them (especially when it comes to financial costs/economic issues). like you said, countries have their economic struggles, especially in canada where i live. the cost of living by yourself is genuinely not possible if you don't have a high paying job (i'm talking 75k yearly at the LEAST). good for you for being in the position to be able to move out by 18/19, but that is definitely not the case for MOST people around that age in a first world country.
also, college is a different story. lot's of people move out for college, but they usually come back home when they graduate. i'm pretty sure the original comment is talking about moving out completely,
@@akaashikeijiluvr is it really that odd? or have you ever considered the thought that maybe you're way more priviledged than most the population, and that your "impossibility" to move out doesn't make any sense? like, that's what you said, right? i mean, people that live in a first world country have it way easier than those that live in a third world country, yet we somehow manage to live a good & fullfilling adult life. like, from an objective point of view, what i'm saying is a reality, not something "odd".
what i'm trying to prove here is that it isn't "impossible" to move out (as you said) when you have every resource at your disposal, which is your case, since you literally live in Canada.
@@valegaleano3026It's pretty odd, especially with the job market as it is. It isn't impossible, no, but it is pretty unlikely.
I think that concerned ape perfectly crafted these ambiguous ages so that each person can fit them around their age range. like i agree on your order, but in my mind they're grouped closer together and a bit younger. which i believe is because because im in my mid twenties and your in your thirties. and like if someone in their early adult years is playing, in their head theyd all be closer to that age.
it's a really interesting mechanic and way to make your games romances so much more accessible to the wide audience. i never would have considered that if i was developing a game. chef's kiss
@@kayleighjosiah im 14 and yeah the thought of any of the characters being over 30 was a bit hard to believe, honestly i wouldve believed alot of them were in their teens to early 20s
hats off to concernedape for the amazing character writing
in one of his cutscenes, Harvey tells George that "i didnt go to school for 8 years to become a doctor for nothing" or something along those lines
so i always headcannoned him to be in his late 20s to early 30s at least
"Now that I actually have a life"
Elliott is so real for that
Congratulations! I've always thought of the younger bachelors/ettes as closer to contemporaries. Alex, Abigail and Sebastian particularly seem to have gone to school together, and probably close to the same time as Penny, Alex and Haley.
Thank you !!
Interesting !! I would love some more lore concerning all of the bachelor/ettes schooling and where they were born and such, cuz there's no school of any kind in Pelican Town. I wonder if they all rode the bus to Zuzu City for school?
If I remember correctly, CA has said before he sees the marriage candidates as in ther 20's except for Harvey and Elliott, whom he says are older than the others.
That's exactly what I said, except I think my comment got deleted for some reason, lol. Weird. 🤷
@@thebeardedgamer1245 I got a DM from my friend that their comment didnt show up either but they didn't say anything weird or anything like that. I'm trying to respond to every comment, sorry yours didn't go through!!
@@sodorart Oh no worries lol it was probably just RUclips being weird. I don't think I said anything weird I basically just said the same thing the other person here said. Thanks for clearing up any confusion for me though!
I do think this may not be applicable for Emily and Shane, who were added as bachelors later. Especially if you look at Shanes original concept art. Speaking of which, Maru looks SO young in that art, it would explain Demetrius's overprotective attitude. I'd say Sam and Abigal would both be 23 or less. Sam also has a kid brother, which might contribute to his youthful attitude.
@@dandeleon2764 Tbf he said this before he added Shane and Emily as candidates so it's entirely possible and probably pretty likely that they would be included in the "Older than the others" category now. I think around 22-23 is a good number for Abby and Sam considering they're close with Seb and it seems like they've been friends for a long time. Imo I personally see Maru as youngest probably around 20-21 or so. I think Demetrius is just being a typical dad but he just comes off too strong lol.
I find the age gap between Sebastian and Maru much larger. The relationship between Sebastian and Demetrius is strained in a way where i think seb spent enough time with his own dad to be bitter. He would have had to spend enough time with his own dad to now resent Demetrius, which would lead to Maru needing to be significantly younger.
Maru is probably a medical secretary or receptionist. You dont need a medical degree for that, just basic medical terminology and knowledge. I think if she has anydegree it's in engineering.
@@MissRyukkie interesting! Thank you for sharing! 🥰
Trick question; they’re all immortals stuck in a time loop!
No but for real, great video!
Ty!!!
in my head it was always
early 30s: elliot, emily
late 20s: harvey, shane
mid 20s: leah
early 20s: alex, sebastian, maru, hailey,
18/19: abigail, sam, penny
Harvey is 100% in his 30’s
Are you by chance a bit younger? I've noticed the younger a player is, the more their headcanons of the characters' ages defy in-game logic to skew everyone younger. :/
@@EmphaticNodI'm 29 and idk i had this vibe too lmao felt a bit creepy marrying Sebastian because I thought he was in his early 20's. But to be fair seb is literally an emo version of my husband irl lol so idk.
there's no way Harvey is in his late 20s and a doctor
@@EmphaticNodfor me it’s not like “I’m on younger side so I want everyone to be my age”, it’s all that characters like Abi, Alex, Sam (!!), Hailey etc are not mature enough. I can’t picture myself with them, they’re all teenagers, I’m not pedo :( it’s usually young players who choose them. For me it’s always Elliott, Harvey or Leah
I’ve always thought of Maru to be 20, and Sebastian to about 26 because I feel like robin wouldn’t get divorced so early into seb’s childhood. I also think that Sam is about 24 just because of the fact that I feel like he should be close to age with Seb but not over 25 cause his brain is definitely not fully developed (if you don’t know your brain is fully developed at 25)
Also thankyou for making this channel and these videos! I love taking to people out stardew lore but most of my friends don’t play and the few that do basically only thing about the romance part.. so thanks for giving me a place to share
@@The.Random.Raccoon I feel the same way, I love talking about Stardew!!! I'm glad you're enjoying the content!!
Yeah, you bring up good points. The friend group (Abigail, Sam, Sebastian) is really close, so it would make sense if they were a little closer in age. It's kinda like a domino effect because if Sebastian is made to be younger, then Maru is made younger too, then Penny would probably be younger (since Maru and Penny are very close friends), etc etc LOL
This is how old I think they are:
Maru: 20
Sam: 19
Abigail: 18
Sebastian: 26
Penny: 23
Elliot: 30
Harvey: 32
Leah: 23
Shane: 29
Emily: 24
Haley: 22
Alex: 22
I also believe for multiple reasons Sam could be undiagnosed
@@GlitchedJordan1987there’s a popular fan theory art he has ADHD which would explain a handful of his dialogs ps I love ur pfp
I always figured Maru was considerably younger than Sebastian. Sebastian sometimes mentions remembering little details about his dad, plus, as a younger sibling with an older sibling that's several years older than me, the two of them act exactly like me and my sister. Sebastian seemingly hates Maru and thinks she's spoiled rotten, despite no clear indication of that, and Maru loves Sebastian, even though he's mean to her. I'd sat he's got to be at least 5 years older than her. likely more.
How old would you say Maru is then?
This is definitely an interesting breakdown! I agree with the older candidates for sure, and I'd say my only major disagreement is Sebastian and Maru. While I agree there's way too much stigma on adults living with their parents (as someone who only just bought a house at 29, and only could afford to because I moved back in with my mom for a year) the way Sebastian and Maru interact definitely feel like siblings with a large age gap. I'd be inclined to go so far as to say 6 or 8 years even - enough time for Sebastian to feel the brunt of his parent's divorce and his mom getting remarried, and to not feel like he can relate as easily with his younger sister.
@@Silentgrace11 excellent insight, thank you for sharing. And maybe he even saw Maru getting the "new baby" treatment, so there was a lot of fawning and spoiling, which caused Sebastian to start getting jealous at an early age.
imo it's been like this
Harvey: 40
Shane, Elliot, Emily, Leah: 31-35
Sebastian, Penny: 24-25
Haley, Alex, Maru, Sam: 23-24
Abigail: 21-22
I’m glad that someone agrees that Seb seems older than both Abigail and Sam
😁
4:19 As a 17 year old kid, for me youth is until your late 40's.
I always had a feeling that Elliot is the oldest, but being so radiant and dressing up all dandy he has some young energy about him. He's a writer and judging from my own experience writers are forever kids living in their heads (which is not a diss!)
As a writer, I can't say you're wrong lmao
I don't remember seeing Maru actually taking care of a patient, so she doesn't need any licence or degree. Troubleshooting medical equipment should come naturally since she grew up with a scientist dad, a carpenter mom and a hacker brother. As for Sebastian, the hacker community has a lot of self-taught kids. I don't think he's been smoking THAT long. Like five years can feel like a long time if you are young and don't really have much happening in your life. If he started at 18 I can imagine him starting to say those things after 5 years at 23.
I think this all seems right except Sebastian. I feel like him and Sam are really close wnd him and Abigail seem to have a "thing"... and I don't see an almost 30 yr old hanging out with 22 yr olds. but you never know lol I think he is a little younger than 29 for sure.
I always thought of Maru as the youngest. Maybe it's controversial, but I headcanon Sebastian being about 23-26 (mostly held up by the fact he implies that if he went to college, he would be a relatively recent graduate. something along the lines of "If I had went to college, I could've graduated a couple years ago and be making 6 figures by now", as someone who works in tech, people often start work very young. Certifications are waaay more valued than degrees, I've never seen a tech job ask for anything higher than an AS as far as college goes, and mostly ask for certs. I got lucky and had dual enrollment with a votech school for a year and a half in high school, and I'm working a tech job at 18 because of how quick a lot of certification programs are. At maximum, assuming he wasn't training in high school, he would be no older than 21 if he went to college for computer science) and from what other people said about Seb remembering his father and resenting Demetrius and Maru. Im not 100% sure if it's vanilla, but I often get a dialog from Maru that says something along the lines of "I'm still not sure what kind of science I want as a career. I love robotics, but I also love working at Harvey's clinic" the jobs Maru does are jobs often given to interns (I have family in medical, med interns are required to sign contracts that say they will obey HIPPA) combined with her curiosity, never showing up in the saloon, and overall vibe, I'd pin Maru as young as 19 years old, or even 18
For me I’d say Harvey and Elliot in their early thirties, Leah being 29 along side Shane, Sebastian being 25 and Maru being 20, Sam and haley being 21 and Emily being 27, Abigail being 20 penny being 26 and Alex being about 22
This is my headcannon:
Harvey: 32
Elliot: 30
Emily: 28
Shane: 28
Leah: 27
Sebastian: 25
Penny: 24
Alex: 23
Haley: 22
Sam: 22
Maru: 21
Abigail: 20
I think, with the way that the notes specifically point out that he's a little too old to be a bachelor, I think Harvey has got to be in his mid-to-late 40s. Someone has got to make a mod that gives him some grey hairs.
I would say Penny is 22 at oldest. She is someone with a lot of spirit backed up. Being the way that she is, I’m sure she would have found some way to move out by 26 (Zuzu City, college in-person, etc.). 22, I think, is an age that makes sense for her to still be living with her mother and speak the way that she does in her free time. Her dialogue where she mentions reading so much because she longs for a different world doesn’t give me the signal of someone over the age of 25. As for her being a teacher, I don’t believe that she’s already obtained a bachelor’s. An associate’s, maybe, but I’ve always imagined that she’s spending her money towards online classes, books, or books about how to improve as an educator. As well, she initially has a crush on Sam. Sam is quite immature at times, like when he tries to sneak you into his bed so that his mother doesn’t know. This is not the behavior of someone used to being an adult. For Penny to have a crush on him, I would argue that she would have to be only slightly older than him, within one or two years.
That said, she only really has a crush on Sam because he has a childish personality, one that Penny never got to have because of her upbringing. That isn’t the behavior of someone who has had ample time to adjust to adulthood, especially in a small town.
Excellent insight! Thank you for sharing!
Harvey does specifically state he spent 8 years in medical school when you see his event checking up on George.
To add for Shane, in his six heart event, you can tell him that he's a father-figure to Jas, which might say he's quite older than his 20s
your defense of Shane's placement in my mind rapidly kept adding year after year to that 32 years old. By the time you were done i was ready and on board for Shane to be older than Harvey 😅
5:25 I feel so called out. I did get called “old” at 22 by younger college students when I was in grad school and, later, when I was paid to play with my grad school college’s band because my brother was attending that university and they needed more good trumpet players. I shock people with my age because I’m short and babyfaced. I think my aging is just concentrated to my back and shoulders.
@@ShakespeareDoomsday MAN I FEEL U, AGING IN THE BACK AND SHOULDERS IS WILD AT 24 FOR ME
Ppl are sleeping on Harvey. He is the CUTEST man in the game. Kinda sad he’s outta my range 😭
EXACTLY!! I love Harvey so much, he’s so adorkable and in my opinion is the BEST bachelor in the game by far. 💯💖
Wasn’t mentioned for him but I just found out when dating Harvey a dialogue can come up with him mentioning something similar to Elliot about feeling older, more melancholy, and worn out from his life at times. Yet he adds in shyly at the end that maybe it’ll be a good thing for him to be dating us, since it might help him feel young.
Definitely talks like someone well into their thirties dating a potentially early to mid twenty-something player to me.
I feel it’s the biggest canon clue on the potential noticeable age gap between him and the player.
Sam and Abigail are about the same age to me (18-22) because both of them still talk about doing school work. Sebastian is a little tricky for me because i recall having a piece of dialogue where he talks about college but simultaneously it seems like he has a job as a programmer already, so to me Sebastian might be around 22-25. I also always assumed Sebastian probably started smoking as a 16 year old.
Poor harvey. Everyone always forgets hes a bachelor and never gets married 😞
12:05 as someone who literally has this job I had 0 schooling on it and the clinicians don’t even know how the equipment works. I mean they know how to use it on a patient but putting it together or fixing it when it breaks?? Nah they got nothing. The reason I know how to do all of that is because I read all of the information for each machine and I’ve got a knack for fiddling with tech. So as someone with basically the same job I’d say it’s very likely she has no formal medical training and just knows basic stuff from being on the job. You don’t need to go to medical school to handle medical paperwork and it’s more just along the lines of understanding HIPPA.
I always go for harvey in my playthroughs, i have him as 35 in my head. The younger batchelors (sam, sebastian, abigail, alex, haley) all seem teenagery in their personalities to me which is probably why i steer clear of romancing them 😅😅
I love your videos! I only started watching them today but they’re genuinely very interesting and pleasant :D keep up the great work!!
@@eagsihaon thank you so much!! I'm glad you're enjoying them!! :D
I still tink that emily is older then leah.
The old saying is "Old is 20 years older than you are."
Edit: That's why people in their thirties start thinking of themselves as "old" for a little while. There's something that happens to your brain when you vividly remember something that happened 20 years ago, when not so long ago it seems that you thought 30 was SO far away. I remember rolling my eyes when I had the "time moves faster the older you get" talk with my mom in the car when I was eight. Suddenly I was 18 and I thought I understood. I really thought I understood better at 28. Now I'm a lot closer to 38.
i think that seb is about the same age as sam and abby i just always pictured then as being friends scenes highschool
i don't think that's true... kent left for war when sam was "not yet a man" but vincent remembers spending time with kent before so sam is definitely younger. abigail is college age while seb already has a degree and is working...
the reason i think shane is a bit younger is cause of marnie and jas. marnies age i would put around 45-50 so if he is her nephew i would subtract 20 years and thats around 25-30. also if he was friends with jas parents she 8 (i think) and once again 20 years puts him around 28 if hes withing the same age. so 25-30 seams right.
I love your thought process of trying to think how old they all are! I think a great video idea since you just did. This one would be trying to find out the ages of the non-mirable NPC! ❤❤
@@Aubies333 tysm!!! That's a great idea, I added it to my notes!
Not to mention he is able to perform surgery which requires years of residency 1:58
My theory:
35+: Harvey,
30-35: Eliot, Shane, Leah
27-30: Seb, Emily
25-27: Alex, Hailey, Penny
20-25: Sam, Maru, Abigail.
A lot of people say that since Seb, Abby and Sam are all close friends they must be close in age but as someone from a small town, if you’re a goth/emo/punk in a small town, you take the friends you can get regardless of age lol
I think there’s about 2-3 years of age difference between each of them, with Seb being oldest, Sam middle and Abby youngest. Around 27-25-22 is how I see them
gang where is haley
@ 25-27
MY ANALYSIS OF THE AGE GROUPS:
Mid 30s (33-36):
-Harvey (8yrs in medical school)
-Elliott (Too mature to be young)
Late 20s (27-29):
-Shane (he looks old because of depression and alcoholism)
-Emely (works at bar, mature mindset if set aside the weirdness)
-Leah (confident living alone in the woods)
Mid 20s (23-25):
- Sebastian (Mindset too old, Style is too young)
-Maru (Bright future ahead, still full of ambition)
-Penny (something about this woman scream "i've been suffering in my mother's house my whole life, but I wasn't crazy long enough to abandon her, so I still took care of her, in the meantime."
Early 20s (20-21):
-Alex (This fucking arrogant jerk still think he's a highschooler jock, oh god thanks he's sexy)
-Haley (Every Alexes-type-of-guy girlfriend in highschool)
-Abigail ("Hehe i eat rocks")
-Sam (such. A. Baby. Weenie)
I agree with this
I always thought they would be between 18 and 27 with Harvey being the oldest. With 8 years of medical school (which he states in a cutscene ) and him being new to stardew, he could be even younger... Depends on when he started school. I don't think there is anyone beyond 30.
In my recent playthrough I noticed Elliott say something that seemed to imply he moved to Stardew pretty immediately after leaving his parent's house, and since he's only been in Stardew a year when the farmer comes it might suggest he's a bit younger, but also as you point out there's not really a strict age that people move out and he might have stayed with them latter to save up money
Idk I always imagined Sebastian to be in his early 20’s. I think it was because Sebastian always hung out with Sam. Sam’s hobby is skateboarding, and in one of the heart events even blames you for dropping an egg . I always imagined them childish things, and imagining that Sebastian, Abigail and Sam were really close, I all imagined Sebastian be a lot younger.
How old would maru be?
@@sodorart that’s true. Since she does know a lot of robotics I never imagined her age coming into play (I forget about Mary and Penny half of the time 😭) though I could imagine Sebastian, Abigail and Sam to be all in their early twenties like 21-23 I think it would be right to assume since Maru has never had a medical degree, and how much time she has spent inventing I’d assume she’d be 18-20 as well. Though my assumptions could be well off 😭
AS someone in my early 30s - the description of "Early 30s describing themselves as old" is so valid. I have a bunch of friends under 36 and they're all like "ugh I'm sooo old" - had a friend who is 34 saying if their partner broke it off, that'd be it for them since they'd be too old to date. Like ...bro what?
I do think the Shane as a godfather thing also has nothing to do with his age. My parents had my brother and I in their 30s and we had godparents all lined up, but those godparents became bio parents in their 40s. I think if they were THAT good of friends with Shane, they probably did it as soon as they knew they were having a kid more out of trust and closeness and ASSUMING he wouldn't need to take her any time soon. It seems like his friends died young [and with the skid marks outside of the bus area I wonder if that's a hint as to /how/ even if they were elsewhere]. So I think he was /maybe/ in his late 20s when they died but he's in his 30s now that we meet him/now that he's come to live with Marnie.
And there is a secret note of Marnie with a MUCH younger Jas - and Penny's "How to teach the second grade" books imply that the kids are in 2nd grade - so about 7-8 years old. And Marnie mentions that Shane's only been there a few months - so if that picture is accurate - Jas has been with Marnie longer than Shane has, and Marnie says he was in a bad place before -- leading me to believe he asked his aunt for help, she took Jas in, and then eventually took Shane in because he was getting even worse since he was in a bad place BEFORE his friends passed away.
@@Crow_Smith awesome insight, thank you for the write up!!
Yeah I'm getting a lot of "Ugh my back ALWAYS hurts, I'm SO old!!!" from friends in their early 30s.... who don't exercise and live sedentary lifestyles... 😐 Very annoying. The idea that "life just ends when you're old" is so sad too. "I'm too old to do XYZ" is just gonna hold people back, truly.
@@sodorart It's so wild to me to hear it from 30 somethings, meanwhile my 60 year old mom is like "I'll quit when I literally have no other option." - I think you just gotta have that midlife "I'm so old" followed by that "Revival of youth" crisis phase [which I hear the midlife crisis happens between 30 and 60] and then you get stubborn and surprised at how much you can do for your age lol.
I personally don't think Sebastian would be older than 27. For a lot of online jobs involving programming, it doesn't need a whole lot of credentials like Harvey's medical degree. Sure you'd need some level of coding knowledge so you could keep your job, but you could take online courses that just span months. Plus, Sebastian's job strikes me as entry-level, given that he hasn't been able to move out yet. High-level programming jobs net you a significant salary.
And with the smoking habit, I'd have to agree with the others that he picked it up young (sadly). In one of Robin's dialogues, she mentions finding a tray in his room that "smells funny", and asking the farmer if she should be concerned about it, which gives me the impression that he's been trying to hide it from his mom. If Sebastian were as old as you mention, and with his personality, I'd assume he wouldn't care hiding his habit from his mom.
I'd think he picked it up maybe because Maru outshines him since they were kids, plus living in a basement would be a little depressing lmao.
@@flapjackoctopus7282 I see I see, great insight! Thank you for sharing!
@@sodorart thanks for reading my rambling too! i found your channel through this video and you're quickly becoming one of my favorite stardew valley related channels hehe 🫶💖
Now I want see a theory video that explain the relationship dynamics of the friend groups and families that we don’t see much of in the game.
Like the friend group Abigail, Sebastian, and Sam feels like a group that was just establish due to circumstance.
Sam didn’t know that Abigail can played the drums and we don’t see Abigail playing DnD game with Sebastian and Sam in Sebastian 6 heart scene.
We don’t see Alex hang out with anybody other then Haley but after the community center, he see him engaging with the trio so I wondering if Sam and Alex used to be close friends as children but maybe grown apart as teens?
i love this so much!!! your video is so insightful and referencing the game instead of just purely guessing (like most people) is so refreshing :D thank you for this ^_^
@@vacantinthe21stcentury thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it!!
Great analysis!! I agree on all your points!
I agree that Harvey would be by far the oldest. I would personally even go as far as to say he could be in his 40s. He explicitly says he’s been through 8 years of medical school. That, plus being able to open and run his own clinic? That’s not something you can just do over night.
THANK YOU for acknowledging that Sebastian could be in his early 30s. So many people (heck, myself included when I first played the game) peg him as super young just because he lives with his parents and is friends with Sam and Abby. Not only are there plenty of economic reasons to still be dependent on your parents well into adulthood, also, in a small town, especially if you’re ’different’ in any way, you likely aren’t going to be picky about ages with friends. There’s not that many people in town, if you share the same vibe and get along well, you’re friends. Who cares how much older or younger you are?
My personal hc ages are-
Harvey: 42
Elliott: 40
Shane: 32
Emily: 30
Leah: 27
Seb: 26
Haley: 25
Alex: 25
Penny: 24
Sam: 23
Abigail: 22
Maru: 21
Penny isn’t a teacher, she’s a tutor. She’s trying her best to give the children a good education despite the lack of a school. She’s also close friends with Sam and I feel it would be weird for someone in their late 20’s for her only friend to be the better half of a decade younger than her. I think she’s most likely a similar age to Abigail and Sam
If Alex is "around 25" then I really hate to break it to him, but no professional sports team is looking to pick up a 25 year old rookie from some random farm village, who plays catch with himself every day.
In my headcannon Alex is below 21, since he doesn't appear in saloon (before certain event), which may be a hint that he's under 21 and (since it's based on USA) isn't allow to drink
That is definitely an interesting headcanon, but likewise I would pose the counter that we find out from his four heart event that his father was an abusive alcoholic. I almost wonder if that has an influence on his willingness to hang out in the saloon.
@@Silentgrace11 sure, there is a precedent such as Penny, who avoids alcohol in every way... But Alex still does like beer
@@goldbaum5297 Very true, but likewise people can have different reactions to the same trauma. As someone who personally has experience with alcoholics in the family that has impacted me severely, while I enjoy the occasional alcoholic beverage (particularly I like how the components of the alcohol contribute to the drink, in a culinary sense), I don't like being in places where I'm exposed to drunken behavior like bars or large parties.
Of course, that's a personal anecdote at the end of the day, but I'd say both possibilities are equally viable, and maybe both technically apply (where he is too young, but will still refrain once he's of age).
@@Silentgrace11Oh, that makes sense. He has strong negative feelings towards *alcohol places*, since he correlates them with his father more than alcohol itself. Sure, it may be
I question how some of these ages work when we compare them to their parents, though. Just taking Sebastian and Maru into consideration, Robin doesn't feel like she's that old. I've always assumed she was late-thirties/early-forties, considering that she works a very physically demanding job and always seems super energetic, as can be seen in most Events where she likes to complain that Dimitrius doesn't dance enough for her liking. So even with the full benefit of the doubt on that range, and saying Robin is just a very lively 45, that still makes her a 16-year old teen mom to Sebastian, and then having Maru at 18/19 years old based on your age suggestions. I'm not saying that's not possible, but it feels oddly out of place within the setting, and makes it seem odd that she was able to start a business that requires her to be away working at job sites for days on end as a teenager with 1 or 2 babies. I'd definitely put Sebastian and Maru in their lower 20's due to that logic alone.
a dialogue with emily (it could be either a heart event or the community center completion, i forgot) says that abigail had at least finished college, she weaved something for her that hasn't been used in a long time.
also i think sebby is at least younger than penny, just to make it less weird having a crush on abigail
I think Emily is older. She didn't use to be a bachelorette at first, and is Sandy's bestie. She has an own job as fashion designer but also helps Gus in the saloon. She takes care of the house too, so I'd put her near to Harvey.
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I said
Abigail saw just turning 18 or going onto 19, being gothy, and child like, and join a band. But also it was said she was the youngest of them all. So she has to be 18
Penny being a teacher like lady, but lives with a drunk mother and kinda taking care of her. Penny has to be at least 21 fresh out of school and teaching the kids what she knows.
Maru is kind of a rocket scientist. And a part time nurse. So reasons to stand that she is early 20s, so maybe 21-24
Leah had a lover before lives in the city with them alone, so she has to be well in her 20s, so 24-26.
Haley being younger then her sister, giving off a right away high school cheerleader like personally, and a smaller room then her sister is fair to say Emily is older and is allowing her sister to say with her. Haley I’ll say is 19-20. (2nd youngest)
Speaking of Emily
Being older the Haley, having a bigger room and most likely ownership of the house, she is about 2-3 years older. So Emily is 21-23.
As for the males
Sebastian has a man cave, is in a band and gothy, early 20’s at best , so 21-24
Sam Skateboarding, in a band with Seb.
Also early 20s 21-24
Harvey, maybe the oldest of the group.
He is a doctor. PhD and all. That’s a little over 4 years in colleges so with him he has to be late 20s early 30s , so 27-32
Elliott maybe the 2nd oldest, living on his own much like Leah, has a look like he would claim to be better than everyone. And is into Leah and could be like “date and marry me and I’ll teach you all the is about art.
Alex much like Haley but instead of high school he would be in college going for a football scholarship. So he would be early to mid 20s , so 22-25
And Shane maybe another older guy. He drinks, getting drunk a lot. Works a job he hates and he hate life from what I can tell. To get to that point of actions and feeling I say he is in the top 3 oldest males. 27-32+
And now having watched this video now(the first post was done without watching it yet)
Surprised to see and hear the other characters info. And some wow kinda wrong on how they are, but also kinda right with age grouping, Now her age group is about older and what not then mine. But to say Harvey, Shane, and Elliot, being the top 3 oldest, is wow. To hear Emily is older and the care taker, is wow. And everyone else kinda in the ball park. So heh. ……neat.
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I never realized Sam isn't Demetrius' father.... That explains why he treats Sam that way...
Living at home and being “young” should be considered outdated now, nearly everyone I know was or has adult kids living at home. I made being a working adult living at home part of my farmers backstory, that’s why she’s so depressed and broke at the start of the game. Age wise it’s based on my own moving out experience and my fantasy path not taken. She’s 29 about to turn 30, burnt out and sinks all of her working through her 20’s savings that was suppose to be a home deposit into fixing the farm. This is the part where I imagine I defied my parent’s plan for me and my money. I wish I turned 30 in Pelican town!
I love this! Thank you for the statement about living with your parents not being a huge factor. I mean, no one thinks that about Shane and he still lives with family. It's bizarre. I will say, I see Sam as older. Probably around the rage of Seb. My thoughts around this are Jodi can be quite controlling/overbearing (as shown with the egg breaking event). I feel like even if Sam was older she'd be stuck in "he's my baby!" kinda of views and not allow him to cook/clean much as it's not "her way." Kent being gone might also play into that: he's been gone for a while possibly and she's got a chokehold on Sam so he doesn't leave as well. Combine that with Kent clearly having PTSD: of course Sam's more on the childish side. He's being held onto super tight by a mom whose afraid. His fixation on a skate park and all that might also be a bit of the fear of growing up that hits when the world decides your ancient at 30. He sees the number coming/or it has came and he's like absolutely not. I'm not old yet. And threw himself into it. Just like a lot of people I know picking up hobbies from their childhood again as adults now that they "have adult money."
(It may also be slightly because I'm 30 almost 30 and love him and want him to be older, shhhh haha. ) But honestly: I know people like him well into their 30s.
@@Asteriax3 thanks for commenting! I'm also in my 30s and I know people that are like Sam and are easily 30.
I agree about Jodi and Kent playing a huge role in how Sam is able to express himself and be independent (or not). I think if a lot of us were in Pelican Town, we'd all still be living with our families well into our 30s and not moving out until we're married!
This was a really cool video idea and I like the reasoning behind most picks. Even though I personally disagree with a few of them, I can understand the logic used for these guesses.
There’s a few interesting ones to me, but I think one of the biggest ones I haven’t really seen anyone else mention yet is Alex. Based of his personality, his life, who he associates with, etc. I do feel like right around 25 is the most logical age for him, he feels like he’s around 25. However the biggest issue with this is the fact that he’s still somewhat holding on to his pipe dream of making it big and becoming a professional athlete. I think the game somewhat implies he is a tiny bit too old, and wasn’t quite good enough to achieve that dream, but being 25 and still holding out hope for that is completely unrealistic. I think at the absolute oldest end he’d have to be around 22-23 to believably have that as a character trait. Maybe even a little younger. If you are going to be a pro athlete, you’ll likely know for sure by around 18-20, and arguably could still have a tiny shot around 20-23, which is the age group I feel like suits Alex’s sports dreams. He does ‘feel’ like he’s around 25 in many ways, but I just don’t think that’s very believable with his goals. If I had to guess I’d say he’s 22 (maybe 23), which would also place Haley at about 23 for me, and therefore Emily around 26.
@@Brandon34300 this is great insight, thank you for sharing! And thank you for the kind words!
On the above 30 side I totally agree, regarding Sebastian I think he's early to mid 20s he strikes me as the type to smoke underage as he a rebellious streak while I think Maru is deciding on a degree which is why she's doing odd jobs and tinkering in her room which in my mind puts her at 20 ish and in competion with Sam and Alex as the younger bachor/ette. I also think Abi is a similar age to each other, I picture them as being in school together and bonding in their teen years over their family issues, Caroline viewing Abi as being younger is more to do with their family dynamic, also being frustrated at your daughter for being in uni and still reliant on you reads as very postgrad/masters experience to me. Alex also seems slightly younger to me because of the death of his mam and not really remembering her as well as the amount of growth he goes through reads as just entering the real world.
I think Emily is the oldest based on Pierre’s community center completion cutscene dialogue. He said that the community center was bustling when he moved to Pelican Town and that Emily spent years weaving the Stardew Fair banner. Abigail was conceived in Pelican Town, so if we reasonably estimate Emily was 18 when she started working on the banner and Abigail is exactly 18 considering Emily brings up Abi’s graduation party, that makes Emily at least 36.
Also Emily and Shane were never meant to be datable, so it would make sense that they’re older than the other 10 marriage candidates.
Pierre didn't actually say Emily just started working on the banner when he first moved there. It could've easily been just 5 to 10 years ago.
Despite her maturity, I feel like Emily seems a bit younger than for example Harvey, Elliot or Leah (I'd say they're in their early 30s).
Emily is also similar to Maru in terms of being gifted and working part-time to fund their actual interests.
So I'm not sure she'd be much older than the latter.
honestly the housing market in stardew valley must be amazing since Emily can pay her bills and support Haley with a part time job
It's implied she makes money off of her tailoring too, I think.
She's the only seamstress in town and possibly sells her clothes online based on the computer in her room. She probably made the clothes Sandy sells as well.
huh, I always thought Sebastian was so much younger, since Abi and Sam seem so young and at times immature :D and they're his closest friends
Jas calls Shane her uncle in his 8 heart event. So I think Marnie is great aunt to Jas and aunt to Shane. One of Jas' parent was Shane's cousin.
@@maddiewaters7112 Jas states at 8 hearts on rainy days that Shane is her godfather because her parents died and that her parents were his friends
@@sodorart Yes he is her godfather, but he is also her uncle, so they are related. Jas says "Uncle Shane's in the barn" in the 8 heart event cutscene. Why did she also called him her parents' friend we can only guess. Maybe he was a cousin of one of her parents and a close friend of the other.
I read Maru as early 20s personally - I could even see her being as young as 21, which would actually be enough time to become a fully credentialed nurse, definitely enough time for something like CNA training. In her 2-heart scene, Demetrius warns you away and says she's got a bright future ahead of her, which also seems to point toward early 20s, as it's kind of in the same vein as Abigail with being treated like a child. I also read Alex as 19, mayyybe 20. The memories of being a star high school athlete seem like they're pretty fresh for him. If he were 25, he'd have much more "guy who peaked in high school" vibes, I think. Be he doesn't, and instead seems like he's just starting to figure out that his dreams of his future were maybe a bit too idealistic and that he doesn't quite know where to go next. I also can see Haley as anywhere in the 20-25 range - she's a bit harder to pinpoint for me!
harvey is just old because he have a mustache yk
but how old are we ingame ?
Another thing that I think makes it hard to tell the age gap with Shane and Elliot to me is they seem to be interested in things outside of their physical age. Young vs Old soul kinda vibes.
Shane is still interested in video games, eating junk food, and bar culture. Makes me think of someone just finishing undergrad who was forced to grow up too soon because of Jas’ situation. But the idea of him being around 25 feels way too young to me.
Meanwhile Elliot is the “I like pina coladas and getting caught in the rain” type. The “I was born in the wrong generation” kinda guy, almost wise beyond his years. But the idea of him being in his late 30s feels too old also.
normal people: Oh god I'm 30! when did I get old?
My friends when they were in their mid 20"s: Oh God, I'm old. When did i get so old?
Me: I'm reaching my mid 30's and i finally feel like an adult. Hopefully my 40's don't break me, when I reach them. XD
I think Shane just looks older because of his mental and drinking issues. I always headcanoned him and Elliot as being a similar age, with a year or two between them. So, pretty much what you said, haha
LOL yeah his portrait without his eyebags and five-o-clock shadow makes him look way younger
Penny's age has always been the most ambiguous to me, and that's coming from a guy who marries every single playthrough.
Every character exudes some sort of younger or older energy from how they act, Abby takes online classes, Haley is your typical high school mean girl, Alex is the typical jock type, Harvey is a full on doctor, and Elliot looks like Fabio and no one looks like that until they're at least 35. You get the gist. But Penny is just a shy sweet teacher, she could be anywhere from 22-30 and it'd fit honestly.
That being said, I think you're really on the mark with 26. Its a solid age where she'll have taught herself enough to teach the current children in town, and also really start wanting to have a family of her own. The late 20s *is* typically when people start to worry about getting married or having kids, so it fits her perfectly.
this is such a good video, your explanations were so interesting to listen to and i agree with pretty much everything here!! i’ve also always thought that elliott is older than shane by a couple of years, because i love the contrast and comedic potential of this absolute adonis of a man actually being older than a guy who has custody of a child and looks aged and haggard due to depression. @ concernedape i need their opposites attract friendship to be canon
Thank you so much! We need Elliott to say "Barkeep!! A beer for my depressed friend over there!" in 1.7 LMFAO
First time playing i played as a girl (i love strong women) and due to passing out and fainting a lot, i went with Harvey, reason being my girl will need someone to patch her up LOL
I will say I feel Sebastian is 25 Max personally cuz at least at the time the game came out most states had the legal age to buy cigs at 18 (in recent years some states are raising it to 21) and I smoked on and off with friends occasionally as a teen and I at 24 crave cigs sometimes when stressed and ive only smoked a handful of cigarettes before so a lot of it comes down to the individual person. So he very much could have been smoking maybe a stolen cig here and there as a teen then smoke 18 to like 24 or whenever he meets you and that'd still be at least 6 years to build the addiction. Plus if imagine he's close in age to sam and Abby tho obviously that's not a requirement for friendship lol
And for maru I know some basic nursing programs are only 2 years which would explain her mainly working at the desk and occasionally helping with equipment only and never actually being in the back with patients, and would still allow for her to be very young. Especially how her dad talks about the player "getting in the way of her bright future" which you don't usually hear parents talking about their kids like that past their early 20s so I always viewed her more along the lines 21 or 22.
Obviously these are just my thoughts tho lol considering there's no set answers I liked hearing your reasoning
if the thumbnail is accurate to this scale i refuse to believe maru is older than abigail.. or anyone on this list
As someone who also believes in 30s Leah and late 20s Sebastian I thank you for this ranking.
Also super super thankful that you touched on the "this character lives with their parents therefore they must be young" thing that I see so much online. I hadn't considered Emily as early 30s but as late 20s, but tbh I think you've convinced me on that, she does seem like an early 30s person who is responsible but also has been around long enough to know that it's okay to be whimsical and eccentric
That’s funny. My favorites are the ones theoretically closest to me in age and my least favorites are the ones farthest in age
Penny seems pretty old-fashioned. I think she is older.
Something I was thinking about during Sebastian's section was that his programming i nsing a job it's a hobby, and while I'm sure he's had a few small jobs from it, it's not a complete job. During diolouge from just talking to Sebastian, you can getthe words "You must make a lot of money working on your farm," the talk to him directly after he'll finish with " Maybe I should get a job soon" so I feel as though Sebastian should be a little younger, comparing with the fact he doesn't seem to find of Demetrius . Just my opinion tho. (Sorry for any typos, my phone is mean)
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if you build pam a house you get a cutscene where pam has to begrudgingly apologize to penny for her past behavior.
That's a really cool idea collecting all the little pieces of hints or evidence! I always assumed Abigail to be the youngest just because she and farmer are the only adults doing the egg hunt. And for Harvey, Shane and Elliott I found the note in-game. But now that I saw this, I'm sure you pretty much nailed it!
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Maru and Sam also do the egg hunt.
I took Abi, Sam and Maru to be the youngest because they do the egg hunt, but I also thought Penny was the same age because she is good friends with Maru ands apparently had a crush on Sam.
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