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So many contradictions, claims to be a muslim but talk about how evolution shapes male behavior, & earnt money off women doing all the things everyone is complaining about, and casinos. Talks endlessly about being a top g when the real alpha's where the Diicot operatives in balaclavas that arrested him & would have beaten him to an inch if he resisted. Or worse. No one will ever know their names. Truth is different to the world of talking loud & appearances.
Guys, let me save you the trouble of signing up with Sadia... You're the problem. Men are evil. The End. Sadia is not sympathetic to men AT ALL and will gaslight you non stop. I'd sooner sign up to the reporter woman sitting beside Sadia, who has restored my faith in women. This is all a grift which appeals to bitter women. Certainly no better than anything Tate espouses, just more socially acceptable because it comes from a woman, and women can do no wrong.
If you love someone you love them for a reason. They tic certain criteria u like. Now if ur partner is in onlyfans or in another religion than u or different beliefs and u dont like that you wont LOVE them
@@ratnakordosshu6291 if you gain certain things from a person you love them. If that cant provide them, even if you had initially liked them, you lose interest. There is no disney love in the real world.
@@TsarOfRuss I felt the same lol. The excitement when he came in the room... Isnt she married? lol... Shes intelligent and pushes the right narrative but I feel like the fame is getting to her head.
Andrew is A nice sweet guy who's a lady man, he's smart unlike some of he's followers n redpill men. He knws how to get women attention n keep them listen. Women will simp for him, he gets his message across properly @@TsarOfRuss
Sadia has a point here. Sex and sexuality has always been a power that women wielded over men. If women are able to harness that power so effectively that they can make money off of men, it may not be the most dignified version of "empowerment" but it's still power.
@@alyzak.8997 This is not unique to women. All humans get oppressed for the same things they generate power from. That's the nature of power. It's always a 2-edged sword.
I have never heard of Richard Branson with loads of women. He is a Billionaire. I don't like hearing excuses for lack of morals. And actions that are hurting families
@@manchuriancandidatethe3rd101 "Nice girls who are pretty don't finish last. Nice girls who aren't that attractive unfortunately do." Rubbish!! The unattractive girls still find most men invisible and have unrealistic expectations, and then they won't even smile at a man let alone approach them. A lot even think they're tens when they're twos. If they lowered their standards to their own objective level they'd have as much chance as anyone. Gosh, all a girl has to do is smile at a few guys, and not be a b and that's it. As a man I refuse to be gaslit any further when stats don't lie. Life is on easy mode for ALL WOMEN when it comes to dating and finding a mate. Even the unattractive women are getting selected on the dating apps!!! Just be sure to find someone whilst in your 20s as its going to get tough for ALL women in their early 30s and practically impossible thereafter.
I don't think Tate really knows what a "good girl" is lol. We avoid men like him at every turn. We might find him entertaining to listen to on RUclips, but it's so clear he could not provide what good girls want: family, true family.
Its totally valid to avoid him or men like him if he isn’t your cup of tea.. but your conclusion is baseless. He may be obnoxious at times but that has nothing to do with his ability to sustain and maintain a family. Objectively Look into him a bit you will find it clear that he does indeed have a family, a wife, kids… his father passed away yet he refers to him in almost every interview he’s done with respect and admiration constantly. he prioritized taking care of his mom and retired her as soon as he was financially able + his brother is his best friend and partner in life and business + when he met his cousin he welcomed him into his home, gave him a job, purpose, family (he was homeless).
I said to my friend modern woman are not serious relationship material and my friend told me modern men are worst . This opened my mind deeply. Yes men need to work on themselves and you woman need to as well
Sadia I love and resonate so much with your point that the woman who is simple and doesnt ask for anything loses her value, and that men prefer the women who ask for a lot and are more entitled. Ive experienced this in an 8 year marriage which ended, as a wife I was doing everything cook new meal every day, modest, house presentable everything covered. Even working to help with the bills as he agreed. But never asked for anything, demanded anything, never initiated fights arguments etc. Took care of his wishes and demands. But still ended up being treated like a 2nd thought and constantly tested, walking on eggshells all the time. So I dont understand, men dont want to admit, they want women with attitude and demands and higher maintenance. Why not just appreciate the good low maintenance woman? It hurts
Men know a strong-minded woman will always put herself, and those she cares about deeply, first in a way a meek or even PickMe can't. They also deeply desire the ego trip of dominating the unattainable trophy more than the traditionalism they claim, or they would go for the modest traditional woman in the first place.
@normarndelathassologenesis2967 problem is, i was strongminded, not so meek but always taught to put the husband first. And through observation got the idea that they look down on women who take care of themselves first as selfish, so i never did. Kind of a sub cultural thing. The rest i agree with. This man and his family (the men) had the type of mentality though of attaining the progressive/trophy wife and then caging her like some exotic bird and clipping her wings for the world to see "here, i tamed this one and she does my bidding, im that powerful" subconscious filth, specific to certain types of people.
@@zainub1923 That's most men, even in very conservative traditional cultures, in my experience. Women of my mom's generation used to talk about changing after marriage. Becoming more boring and domestic, and men lamented that they did while often changing for the worse when I was a kid. Women aren't changing much anymore, and men are still complaining about us while changing for the worse. It doesn't matter what we do, how domestic we are, lazy men who don't appreciate their wives aren't new and will never accept accountability for their mediocrity. Most men will forever think being average is decent, even if average isn't good enough.
I lived in the Muslim/Arab world for many years and was married over there too. I think both Western and Muslim cultures today are very extreme and don't support family values. In the Muslim culture they claim that they want a woman like you, but so many ladies find themselves in your spot. Here in the West, most men you can't trust when they walk out the door. I found an Indian, and am happy! Indians living in the West don't want their families broken and try to be happy for the most part. Habibti, I don't think you did anything wrong. Focus on your kids, your career, your wellness, your selfcare and your life. You are awesome and never lower your standards again! I am sure you could see things in him when you met him but you ignored it! Mashala may Allah bless you!!
@@normarndelathassologenesis2967 you are right. There are psycho-social issues in the Arab/Muslim world that make for complicated dynamics. Allah ma Aki habibti!
Kind of interesting how Tate completely avoids the question of "would you date yourself," most likely meaning he knows he's a "high value man," but not a good one, making the answer difficult since that makes him fun, but disloyal. The problem is he wants to live a certain lifestyle where he interacts with girls on the daily, yet wants/expects good girls to stay with him. Kind of hypocritical thinking imo. His version of "love" is essentially just taking care of them financially and that's about it. Loyalty? Forget about it. When he makes comments of "I'm going out," basically "I'm staying out," how can he expect the girl he's with to accept that when their relationship is meant to be a partnership and it'd currently feel one-sided? Would he be fine if she made the same comment and acted the same, or would that cause problems for him? Basically, if you want a girl to be loyal to you, then you should be expected to do the same. The term "high value man" is such a ridiculous one, but apparently being a "high value man" = open in every sense with women (which is not always true) and women should just have to accept it and apparently "good girls" do, although when he's flat being disloyal, it doesn't make sense for them to stay. This basically means "high value men" do of course have initial access to good girls, but cannot keep them due to disloyalty. However, good girls don't avoid "high value men" though because being a "high value man" does not automatically = POS, they just generally choose to be.
Yeah, I'm calling it right now. The women with him are seeing other men. There's just no way it's not happening. When you live that lifestyle, you also die by it too. Unless he's got a camera on their punani, there's no way he knows for sure they're not stepping out on him.
Agree. I heard Andrew tade also investing in only fans. How he talked, seems like all womens fault. Men watching porn is biological. Men have no control over there body and life
I agree with you, his male promiscuity is ok is the only point I disagree with. I hope after becoming muslim he corrects it becs in Islam promiscuity is haraam for both the genders.
I've dated men like Tate. They are always on 100. They chase excitement, are very smart, enjoy having groups of people around 98% of the time. These men want a woman around for clout. Look good on their arm and keep them the center of attention. If you play along you will be rewarded then replaced!
It's so obvious that Sadia likes Andrew-hair flip, body language, and laughs-while Andrew is loving taking it all in. Someone, please give her some water. 💧😂
hahaha thought exactly the same, she was so excited when he first came in and suddenly started playing with her hair and having these silly laughs. She's doing exactly the same stuff when she tells men when a woman actually likes them, lmao But tbf, it's Andrew Tate, I bet he'd have her wrapped up in 30 minutes if he really tried.
I was looking for a comment like this cos it seems like everyone is ignoring her giggles and laughter with Tate and if you know her and have seen some content of hers she never acted like that. Lol. Just very entertaining 😆
Iv witnessed a lot of what Sadia talks about, about the nice girl barely getting anything out of her relationship whereas women who have a more entitled and ungrateful personality seem to be given the world by their men.
@@dasein9980 it does. May be you have never seen it. It happens because nice people do not take actions when someone step in their boundaries for the sake of peace. So most times the other person takes advantage of that because they know they can get away with whatever they do
Great pod cast guys! After seeing this I know the girl in the corner has more self control than sadia! She seems very exited to be around Andrew! Giggling etc.. I’m really surprised by this actually!
@@kasimshaikh3750 This is nature for women. I wouldn't even be surprised by the woman sitting next to Sadia she like Andrew Tate too, but she controls her emotions
@@toddjohnson271 and with your “blah blah blah dismissive attitude, that’s all you will get. Anyone who has thought out this game called life will avoid you.
I have recently started following the Tate brothers since their arrest in Romania, and shocked at how much he says now (2023) that I agree 100% with. However… he’s not right about guys like him having an advantage with all women when it comes to dating. I’m a high value woman and would never get involved with him beyond a platonic level. I’d rather die single than date a guy with his mindset where it’s ok for him to stay out all night and do what he wants because he pays the bills. I can pay my own bills and not deal with all the heartache, thank you.
You would not get involved in a platonic level if you ever decide to engage. The involvement is the doors for all possibilities, and your instincts can betray you when you least expect it.
It's not just money. It's "provide and protect". A man can provide more than money. Emotional Support, safety, security, etc. You provide nurture. Yet modern women can turn it off at anytime. A man can't turn off provide and protect. You think I can say babe today I don't feel like defending you if some guy slaps your ass in the street? We can't turn it off its engraved in us to DIE for you. Literally sometimes die for strangers. It's our duty. And don't come at me with you have money on your own. It's nice to be pampered and spent on. You can give yourself a massage or a self orgasm but it's nicer and feels better when someone else does it. And women CRAVE this. This is why all these independent I can support myself women tend to be miserable when they date guys who make lesser than them. Because if this was true what you said then there would be loads of women staying with their UNEMPLOYED husbands while they brought in the money. No. Eventually you lose interest in them. Tate loves uses comedic humor in his logic. I'm sure he doesn't stay out all day while his wife is at home. But the principal still stands, if he does everything you ever dreamed of n took care of you protected you made u feel safe and secure and was your rock, him going out with his boys to play billiards til 5am drinking wouldn't effect you at all unless he did it constantly. If you actually get to really watch all of his interviews, he bends and actually has some middle ground compassion with his ladies. He stated he used humor and outlandish remarks to capture the algorithm to go viral. After being a Muslim the guy is even more humble now
You're bascially just saying that you prefer a super attractive, powerful man who has many options but is only loyal to you. It's every girl's fantasy. It's the female equivalent of every other guy wanting a hot bikini model wife w/ single digit low body count/or a virgin who isn't crazy. No shit. Difference is that men wouldn't say that if they dont' get that, they'd rather die single. Plus, Tate was being hyperbolic to his persona when he said that. The proof is in the puddling, empirically, anecdotally, and evolutionary biologically, that many women would rather share a Prince w/ other women than be with a bum who is loyal. So he is correct that when he said that guys like him have an advantage. Even if you don't want to date guys like him, you'd still have sex with them. They still win. Therefore, feminism/women's sexual liberation movement actually give highly desirable men that advantage he is talking about. Social Media/Instagram amplifies that advantage even more.
With the anonymity of social media, I would like to ask women such as yourself the following questions about the kinds of men you would want to have sex with: 1) Can you describe the specific physical characteristics of a man that you would find physically appealing? Can you name a sportsman, a musician, or a man with public profile that have these physical characteristics that you find appealing? 2) If you sit at a bar and notice a man with a handsome face sitting nearby and you find him attractive based on his facial structure, then when he approaches you to introduce himself and you can see clearly that he is a bit shorter than yourself, do you put him in the friend zone or do you still find him sexually attractive?
@@pedroribas1815Same! Shes a breath of fresh air in this "Just pearly things" world filled with 400 people who have the same rhetoric and stats. She seems to have unique view points and is a pretty balanced woman.
I thought Tate was cool til I learned how he scammed guys for tons of money, guys lost their homes from phony Instagram model promises...and Tate bragged about it, he's a low life scum. A liar and thief, Google Corey Wayne and Tate, see that it's true.
For a balanced conversation or discussion we need to have different view points all these people are somewhat on the same side. We need promiscuous women to mix in
Sadia acting like a high school girl. I have tremendous respect for the other girl who has more self control and confidence. And actually put some unique arguments.
This is assuming women are only interested in money. Some of us care more about emotional awareness, consistency and the ability to commit. This conversation is so shallow and materialistic.
@@bc_qbeval well it would depend on the circumstances but generally at my age (41) no I wouldn’t. The reason being if they were a McDonald’s cashier in their 40’s the chances are they can’t commit to a career/direction in life. In my experience people who can’t commit in other areas of their life often can’t commit in relationships either. Of course there are extenuating circumstances and it would depend on the person and their story.
@@manifest.love.light.laughter Got it. You're no less shallow and materialistic than the people in this video. You're just better at masking it. Those other characteristics you listed that you look for in a partner are SECONDARY after the prerequisite money/lifestyle threshold is met by the man.
He is wrong, i am a good girl and i wouldn't give him the time of the day 100%. I only like guys that respect me and treats me good. I don't think he ever met truly decent women. He probably met women who pretended to have values and all.
Because he will make you accountabile for your actions and choices and he will make you face your own emotions and he will never lie to you when you ask for his honesty. He won't let you even ONCE talk to him or treat him like rubbish, he will walk away when you try play manipulative games and you'd be the one begging to renegage in conversation after he hasn't spoken first because he won't. He loves himself to much for anything less. This is something weak women can't handle and that ain't me trying to put you down it's the truth. It really isn't for the faint of hearted women. You want a comfort zone life with a man then a high valued man is not for you.
16:20 100% true. Shy, less confident guys can barely look at me. Anytime some of them got to talk to me because of circumstances, they told me that they would've never approached me because they couldn't have even dreamt about having a chance with me...🤦🏻♀️
Nice girls, unfortunately for me, do indeed finish last these days. I was completely betrayed by the man I was loyal and dedicated to for 5 years. I was a beautiful, shattered 23 year old left to pick up the pieces after he cheated and got another woman pregnant. He married her immediately after she fell pregnant. This is the same man who once tried to convince me that I was "socially conditioned to want children." Literally his words verbatim. I've healed myself since then and I'm with an incredible man who would never dream of manipulating me like that dunce did, but it's hard not to get triggered by the supposition that men harbour none of responsibility for the utter psychological atrocities they commit against good, wholesome women who doted upon them, and then spiraled due to sheer heartbreak. Sadia is absolutely on the ball on this topic.
You picked the wrong man probably because you were too young. Take responsibility for your bad choice and congratulations on making a good one. All Sadia has to provide is that it is all men's fault because they're evil, which resonates with bitter women, and yet you've clearly found a good man disproving the claim. And then you conveniently forget the "utter psychological atrocities they commit against good, wholesome" MEN!!! Nobody gives a damn about men's feelings or healing.....we just need to suffer in silence and get over it and keep it to ourselves because that would be unmanly and thus unattractive. Stats don't lie that male self-deletion is far, far higher than women and typically caused by problems WITH women, such as sexless-ness and divorce. Stop portraying yourself or your gender as the victim, as all women do, when stats clearly show you aren't. All men should stand up and refuse to be gaslit any further by women based on their feelings on matters that are clearly contrary to the facts.
I think Andrew and Sadia should just take it into the other room and get the dirty deed out of the way, while the other two good humans have a constructive conversation about real people and helping society.
Having watched her interview with Tom Bileue on Impact Theory, I think she's still working through a lot of past relationship and especially religious/cultural trauma but in a unique place to articulate nuanced understanding from a place of poise. Tate's behaviors and background isn't too far off from the conservative Arab/Muslim cultural norms Sadia grew up with. While she still questions the religious influence and expressed being most comfortable with those traditional guidelines she also expressed how the extremes of what [popular aka usually shallower coopted] representations of women's empowerment like OnlyFans and open relationships (rather than the idea that women should have a right to choose those things without systemic harm attached even though not all those things are necessarily good for all women).
To clarify, a lot of psychologists point out quick chemistry can come from relating to someone who is either reminiscent of and/or also has familiar past developmental trauma as you, I think that's what we're seeing play out here even though she's probably aware of it some people will still behave accordingly like being triggered even though they know there are things that aren't really right.
The only way to truly understand and come to an agreement on this topic is to not look at it solely from a man/woman perspective but also take into account the stages of the ego’s development and consciousness levels of all humans. Do these people know about spiral dynamics and the map of consciousness?!?! Ken Wilber, David Hawkins, Clare Graves, Beck and Cowan’s work?!?!
This conversation is all about the desire to have choice and aiming for the best. That way it never ends. The goal should be to settle down, even if she/he is not the best and to choose each other every day no matter what. But that nowadays is looked down upon. As if we were entitled to the best the world has to offer
Married an alpha male loved giving to him - he couldn't do monogomy. Married a beta man peaceful loving kind - presence love and peace - it is the best.
I never wanted a guy who ignores me and barely replies! Maybe young girls are interested in those people, but not me. It's also quite hard to find a loyal, loving and honest man who wants to get married in the west. You can create good girls! Yeah becsuse of your money Those guys couldn't be more wrong...
Andrew is smart. The other two at the end who aren't psychologists don't understand the root causes of these issues on a deep level like Sadia does and so aren't thinking critically.
It’s amazing to me how Tate still has a grasp on how the real world works despite being as successful as he has for as long as he has been. Completely in touch with reality.
I recommend the book: "Attached: The New Science of Adult Attachment and How It Can Help You Find - and Keep Love"- it explains why "good girls" look for bad guys and "good guys" take bad girls. All are emotionally unstable and non of them are actually really "good" but are very unhealthy to date. Broken people attract broken people, so broken women and broken men do only choose from the same type, is the same as having no choice. Unless you want to be in a toxic relationship. Stable people do not date broken people, regardless the looks or status! With self-work, people can become stable, it is possible but they would need to want it. Andrew isn't dateable at this stage. And the guy, he is talking about, that is Alpha, muscly, successful and loyal, sits right next to him but he can't see it because his inner childhood programming doesn't allow it. Once we heal we see people differently. Is also not just about believing in God but it is actually spiritual awakening. When you can feel it in your body what random sex does to you, you will not want it again ever, no matter what kind of A-man you are! You become a Soul in a body and not a Body, who has a soul.
13:17 What Tate doesn't want to admit is the answer is "no", he would not date himself. He would definitely reject his problematic self because that's what he does with women also. 😂 He avoids answering the question straight forward and shifts in his seat because it's that uncomfortable. 😂
This is a psychological discussion not on everyone intellectual level ... amazing discussion seriously theres many perspectives and relevancy in all aspects thats a challenge in modern society 👏
I don’t think he’s ignorant I think Sadia made a point about how that person isn’t seeing the bigger picture (because he’s not subjected to other women that are “nice girls”, if he’s only accustom to being around “hoes” and other promiscuous women how could he understand how it is to be around a good woman and learn her. No matter the status of a man we are all human beings and knowing that, not all women care about a high status. It depends on her morals and values. 12:30 “would you date yourself?”
Being high status man is not an excuse to see other women when you have a wife or a girlfriend 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ Stop wasting her time and once you grow up than commit to a woman who you truly love
I can’t find the words to tell you how much I appreciate hearing this conversation ❤ my faith is so strong because I see myself in you guys as I listen . I feel connected and not alone . It’s nice to see the awakening and discernment people have such as this podcast ❤it’s so relieving . I pray on this that it will reach millions of people because we are not alone we are not disconnected we are in this together to help society ❤
I used to think Tate kinda made some serious points, but I think they’re all disolusional and disconnected from average men and women. A recent red flag I have learned recently is to avoid dating advice from uneducated people who are nowhere near a healthy relationship. Most of us find a good person we can build a life with. The struggle of dating is real regardless of gender if you’re in this for the long game AKA Marriage.
There's a lot of disenfranchised young men out there, who struggle essentially because they're ugly and wanting a girlfriend that isn't. Tate has found a way to monetise them.
By the way - how does state even qualify to be part of this conversation???? He’s exactly the kind of man who don’t talk about love, relationships and strong good men !!! That’s why he never answered the question thrown at home. How can he???
Thank you so much for talking about this, it is really alarming 😔😔🥺😔😔😔..God help us all.😔🙏...cos, relationships are changing because of the social media and the things we views online has really messed up men and women's mind that it will be bringing in a Godless generation.
Sadia is right, Andrew’s vision is limited, he only sees the girls who approach him and who’s around him. I share most of his views, but I would stay miles away from him.
"I think nice guys are trying harder than she'll admit, but she won't give them a chance." Facts from Tate. Also facts: he didn't answer the question he was asked.
18.10. I told my son to save and prepare for his future so that his wife and children don't suffer. I also advised him to spend according to his means. Also have a savings to afford food for a year. People suffer because they don't manage money properly.
If you understand what islam is, nothing about high value based on status, money, and power. The value from man or women that we would like to find is the one who's a good muslim. The purpose will be the same to bring along all your family members to jannah/heaven. That is a true value and strong meaning for anything that makes u patient, tolerant, stay loyal, and content.
This is in religion, but in society and human nature, the opposite is true. Women will focus on what a man has in terms of financial value, and a man will focus on the beauty of the woman, even if they are Muslims. The goal will not be love. It is all personal interests, but what they talk about in the broadcast is about women who are approached by a good man who wants her. But she does not see any value in it, and then she goes to bad men and has relationships with them after that, when she reaches a certain age after enjoying herself, she wants a good man. This is the point because it is known that women get relationships with more men than the man himself, and most men never get relationships at all. It is a famous phrase. A nice man is always the last choice of women
I completely disagree with Andre rate on this one. Every man who’s a skirt chaser I’ve ever come across is a broke dude!!!!! Their time and energy is being spent on chasing women and sex instead of using that energy wisely!!! Then I’ve seen the guys who have been with their wives 24+ years and guess what they’re well established, building businesses and actually building a future!
Does anyone else find that Tate sounds completely delusional here? “Good girls” DO want security, a strong, trustworthy man who has enough self-control and self-respect to be loyal to his woman. I don’t feel like he has anything to offer but money and physical protection. I thought men wanted respect? Why would a good woman respect a man who admittedly has no self-control and isn’t true to his word (“you said you’d come home” “I’m out!”)?
Not to mention all of these references to “top G” and “influencers” and “men in their DMs”… This was a nice enough conversation but I don’t know that it speaks to the general population. I may be wrong though. Is everyone really DMing strangers and following good-looking influencers on Instagram??
Great discussion and no arguments with much of all that was said. Any chance we could have another meeting like this but with Dr. Orion Taraban, PsyD? That would take this discussion to a new level.
I spoke to many people about this n the real problem is settling trying to convince women to not like the powerful guy n if the only guys that are going to treat her right...is short and standard when she is beautiful, smart, loyal is that she cant be authentic. Sleeping with someone that she cringes at every night n have to talk herself into liking him...thats not fair to the guy or her. So if their choosing to be alone instead if that or getting cheated on n just being a slut..this topic should just stop being discussed. Now she's calling herself a boss chick since that is her REAL only option. Or she's just going to be alone instead of hate her life cuz she's married to some1 she doesn't even want to look at. Eventually that builds resentment
I don't see what the other girl is saying about it being hard for men to find loyal women. I see so many women staying in unhealthy relationships getting used and leaving lot on the table. Many women now are utilizing the same morality that apparently men say they have. I don't believe that we should have such low standards for men and expect them to give into their lowest nature as it would be wrong if women were to do it. If we're being honest that is why women have changed and become less moral and wants to go for a man with money because the logic is if I'm going to deal with having to accept immoral behavior from my partner then I would rather be with a simp who has money and be a kept woman. But one thing I notice is that whenever a woman benefits in a relationship men treat it like its negative almost like there is a power struggle of who can be on top.
People shouting over each other to shoehorn their own opinion in. Constantly chopping and dropping threads. “You have a skewed image” and “here’s a politicians answer” are quite revealing answers
Does anyone else notice that this other girl lubna or whatever is trying to indirectly show she's the perfect type of girl by saying women should live life like how she does and secondly she's indirectly competing with sadia or feeling intimidated by always having her opinion on what sadia has to say especially when Andrew tate walks in and agrees to what sadia says lol
Lol I dunno what world Andrew lives in, good reliable men are not easy to find. The moment I found my “ Nissan” I said yes to him, that was a very rare find . I’ve been married for 5 years and I still think the same.
Yeah it's a skewed reality that's often overlooked because of his charismatic and conversational dominance. He projects his own mentality about people, whether men or women, using crude supply and demand logic. And that's saying it gently, he's been accused or even indicted on human trafficking charges if I recall correctly and openly makes entitled statements that treat women as easy to manipulate commodities when they face people like him. The reality that a lot of people are missing when we really look into what he claims is that some people confuse initial signals for attraction with what actually makes a quality relationship that lasts.
What I disagree with Andrew Tate is on one thing. The quality of a mans character and his social and seduction skills are a great equalizer. Most women just need you to be able to support them if they cant work, because most of them nowadays dont want to be completely dependent on a man (wich I like). Most women dont need you to be a "top G". As a man you do need to aproach women in a genuine and honest way or else you are relying on fate and luck. Thats where the social and seduction skills come into play. Of course, if you are tall, fit and good looking it helps, teenage boys learn that very early, but if you cant make a woman feel the emotions she needs to feel to be atracted to you and love you long term, those superficial qualities dont matter much.
Bingo! 👏👏. Sooo true what you said I am one of those women with a guy that has all those looks..but I'f I didn't FEEL his heart... then I would have gone 25 years ago. Im always working on this emotional intimate connection. I couldn't care about diamonds and Gucci bags.
It amazes me how men, such as Andrew claim he wants a good girl to stay home and not question him when he's out, when they would never tolerate that from women. So as men and women how can you expect loyalty and respect when you don't have it? it works both ways.
What makes me laugh is that men use these women and belittle them. There is nothing of merit for the women or men that life. I respect Andrew for his accomplishments but, don't feel envy or jealousy because my women would never be available to anyone but me. True value is when you are received, cherished and loved for oneself rather than esoteric assets which we build together.
I think giving men the platform to think they’ve got “certain kinds of women” figured out - when in fact they’re just being misogynists is soo dangerous. And no one is actually calling them out or correcting their thinking. Andrew Tate? Be soo for real. He’s not even an upstanding man but give him the platform to berate women? That other girl that’s a writer is not the critical thinker that she thinks she is. No objectivity in sight. This conversation was soo shallow. Just buzz words and generalizations being thrown around.
Right. These guys just be over talking people. Between Sadia and Princella Clark. I’m glad some women with sense are starting to speak out. These guys deliberately surround themselves with dumbT bimb0s and then think they are really saying something 😂
Thank you 👏🏽 oh my I’m so glad you’ve just said this. Just lost ALL respect for Sadia seeing her giggle at every little thing he says. If that was anyone else she’d be correcting him but she’s letting him speak over her 🤮 and flirting with him.. He’s so loud but nothing intelligent comes from his mouth. Since when does ‘high value’ not include emotional intelligence. ?!? This term high value needs to be re defined. He’s not high value if he’s disrespectful he’s damaged and has mommy issues. He’s literally traumatising women by not ‘coming home ‘ and expecting them to stay. That’s called emotional abuse!! Funny how she’s not calling it out plainly for what it is. Any woman that would stay with him is already deeply broken and traumatised. This whole conversation is misogynistic. No one gets to decide if a woman is empowered being ‘half naked’ or not but that woman herself !!!! Fact. Jokes on them ! Many women are lost on only fans/ insta YES! But Most people who talk like this about women’s bodies are suppressed- jealous of women who can wildly express themselves.. clothes on or off it can be an Art too, if you’re not an artist you’ll never know it. You’ll just look on with judging eyes. Bye to watching conversations of status hungry know it all misogynists like this. Disappointed she was even part of this convo
I've noticed the good traditional girls who has all her stuff together and looks attractive can still be mistreated and overlooked by men and these failed men will still go after the plastics and the ungrateful materialistic women who demand stuff but doesn't work for it. Shame on those men who fails to spot a good loyal women who are there to love a man and not his assets. If men want gold diggers then that's what they'll get but please stay away from good loyal women because they need to be preserved for better men out there ❤
A girl could be a "good girl" to a guy if she is super attracted to giving that he is powerful, confident and sets his boundaries. That same girl could also be a "bad girl" to another guy if he has no backbone and let her run all over him and cheat on him. Sometimes women like to assume, or just shame high status men for liking bad girl/gold diggers etc., when really they're just jealous that those men for overlooking them and go after girls who are more attractive. Could those more attractive women be gold diggers,? yes of course. But most of time they conflate those two to cope with that fact that high value men picks younger, hotter women, so they try to shame them both. It is the female equivalent of an unimportant man w/ low status/confidence bitching about how hot girls go after assholes and eff boys instead of picking him who is never going to cheat on her. Could it be that these "assholes and eff boys" are just more masculine and have better game,higher status, etc. than him? also yes.
Great conversation. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Agreed to a lot. But didn’t identify with a few things said. Like ‘you don’t find good girls at clubs’. That’s a little sad. At the end of the day, regardless of nationality, religion or gender, there are just 3 things that matter - value, choice and culture. Women are powerful gate keepers and men were supposed to be protectors of the gatekeepers They both play equal parts. Differently but equally important.
Although i enjoyed the convo i do feel it was one sided at times where Safia made excellent points but would get talked over by Tate and other lady. Sadia points still stand. Andrew would not date himself if he was a woman. He has a big enough ego to want to say he would, but couldn't. So i do think he is actually authentic 😅
Always felt woman more socially adept. When choosing a long term , will gravitate towards a higher social status. Where the less competitive girls want the same n will choose a man not quite established but judge his potential
Once you give to the nice guy a chance, he will build his self esteem on your decision on picking him and he will dump you because now he have the courage to approache
Sadia is feminine and wiser than most women her age, but still shortsighted about male-female dynamics. Her beauty resulted in her never needing to understand how the game works, so she's missing that life experience.
I agree w/ Lubna that women bear the responsibility to hold the standards to a certain level regardless of what is going on with society. I also agree w/ Andrew Tate and that other guy that average men or loser men have no choices whereas loser girls do have choices b/c of their sexual power. The Prophet (SAW) said that men's weakness is women, whereas women's weakness is material things/ wealth. This hadith clearly answers the hardwired nature of a man and a woman and the reason we often see rich older men w/ gorgeous young women. Sadia, it may be your personal experience and that of your friends and clients of the good girl not getting the guy but like Andrew tate said, you've completely crossed off the loser guys and are only looking at the super confident Alpha male, Top G. Even Loser women have options b/c men will always give her the time b/c of her sex appeal, whereas women do not give loser guys the time.
My solution is to not live together that way he can do what he wants when he wants, if he was living with me then I wud have expectations and demands. I'm happier and so is he hopefully xxxx
One thing I could say different to these men, is that, materialism of life isn’t every man’s aspiration and inspiration to drive. They make it seem all flesh and tangibilities, not accepting contentment’s of life. It’s like having power and options vs not understanding at all what it’s like not having power and options. Thus, nothing wholesome is coming out of their mouths. I could balance the table easily here, it’s just a peaceable shout match. It’s like they only experienced the pain of their own choices, and thus, their advice and “wisdom” on men and women is perverted. What you aren’t hearing is, a balance of understanding all of the perverted relations of life, but having a wholesome/moral solution to advise. It’s all trauma and pain. They should speak for themselves.
8:40 the host said it himself "accidentally" After saying the (based on poor correlation) statement: Women want the bad guys, he compared Jeremy Meeks to the other criminal. Why aren't they going crazy over the other guy? Because People care about looks, and in this case, women. They care about good looking people who can AFFORD to be bad (it might be a plus really, but its secondary, far behind looks). They dont want the "bad boy" criminal dominant dude , just because of that. Otherwise, every unattractive dude who had these personality traits and attitude would have success. They care about appearance, and super attractive people can afford to be ANYTHING they want without consequences when it comes to mate selection. NOT being a needy overly pseudo nice person and unattractive, can only give you some more respect than the unattractive weak needy guys. That's all.
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So many contradictions, claims to be a muslim but talk about how evolution shapes male behavior, & earnt money off women doing all the things everyone is complaining about, and casinos.
Talks endlessly about being a top g when the real alpha's where the Diicot operatives in balaclavas that arrested him & would have beaten him to an inch if he resisted. Or worse.
No one will ever know their names. Truth is different to the world of talking loud & appearances.
Where in Dubai are you based? Do you run a surgery back there? I travel regularly to Dubai!
Guys, let me save you the trouble of signing up with Sadia... You're the problem. Men are evil. The End.
Sadia is not sympathetic to men AT ALL and will gaslight you non stop.
I'd sooner sign up to the reporter woman sitting beside Sadia, who has restored my faith in women.
This is all a grift which appeals to bitter women. Certainly no better than anything Tate espouses, just more socially acceptable because it comes from a woman, and women can do no wrong.
Andrew took you to psychology school for dating😂
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No one’s talking about love anymore it’s all about what they can gain from a relationship
Yes. That is surprising. It’s all about what men gain what women gain!!!!
That was my thought. Very sad..
If you love someone you love them for a reason. They tic certain criteria u like. Now if ur partner is in onlyfans or in another religion than u or different beliefs and u dont like that you wont LOVE them
@@blinkxo6131 you talk about the mating selection process. Which is true. But modern days love means what you gain from him/her, which is wrong
@@ratnakordosshu6291 if you gain certain things from a person you love them. If that cant provide them, even if you had initially liked them, you lose interest. There is no disney love in the real world.
I love that Andrew actually listens to understand Sadia, and not to just rebut.
yeah, I noticed same thing..!! :-))
She was simping for him so badly
@@TsarOfRuss I felt the same lol. The excitement when he came in the room... Isnt she married? lol... Shes intelligent and pushes the right narrative but I feel like the fame is getting to her head.
Andrew is A nice sweet guy who's a lady man, he's smart unlike some of he's followers n redpill men. He knws how to get women attention n keep them listen. Women will simp for him, he gets his message across properly @@TsarOfRuss
@@StrongRiderFitness I noticed that too 😂😂😂
Sadia has a point here. Sex and sexuality has always been a power that women wielded over men. If women are able to harness that power so effectively that they can make money off of men, it may not be the most dignified version of "empowerment" but it's still power.
It's not power if a man has self discipline and doesn't fall for her sexual trap
It has also been something that women have been punished and oppressed for in most of human history
@@alyzak.8997 This is not unique to women. All humans get oppressed for the same things they generate power from. That's the nature of power. It's always a 2-edged sword.
I have never heard of Richard Branson with loads of women. He is a Billionaire. I don't like hearing excuses for lack of morals. And actions that are hurting families
@@soa2444 Thank you. These disgusting men don't want to take responsibility.
"Nice girls feel like they finish last" Thank you Sadia!
Same for guys
you didn't hear the rest. Nice girls who are pretty don't finish last. Nice girls who aren't that attractive unfortunately do.
"Nice girls FEEL like they finish last" Nice men KNOW that they finish last.
@@manchuriancandidatethe3rd101 "Nice girls who are pretty don't finish last. Nice girls who aren't that attractive unfortunately do." Rubbish!! The unattractive girls still find most men invisible and have unrealistic expectations, and then they won't even smile at a man let alone approach them. A lot even think they're tens when they're twos. If they lowered their standards to their own objective level they'd have as much chance as anyone. Gosh, all a girl has to do is smile at a few guys, and not be a b and that's it. As a man I refuse to be gaslit any further when stats don't lie. Life is on easy mode for ALL WOMEN when it comes to dating and finding a mate. Even the unattractive women are getting selected on the dating apps!!! Just be sure to find someone whilst in your 20s as its going to get tough for ALL women in their early 30s and practically impossible thereafter.
Almost every damn time 😂
I don't think Tate really knows what a "good girl" is lol. We avoid men like him at every turn. We might find him entertaining to listen to on RUclips, but it's so clear he could not provide what good girls want: family, true family.
100%!
Its totally valid to avoid him or men like him if he isn’t your cup of tea.. but your conclusion is baseless. He may be obnoxious at times but that has nothing to do with his ability to sustain and maintain a family. Objectively Look into him a bit you will find it clear that he does indeed have a family, a wife, kids… his father passed away yet he refers to him in almost every interview he’s done with respect and admiration constantly. he prioritized taking care of his mom and retired her as soon as he was financially able + his brother is his best friend and partner in life and business + when he met his cousin he welcomed him into his home, gave him a job, purpose, family (he was homeless).
@@rafaifalhamdan1229 I’m glad to know the nice things he has done.
Yes, he even invested in only fans!!!
How many wife he have?
THANK YOU SADIA! for turning the table on every topic. Men play the blame game but never realize it works the other way around 100%
I said to my friend modern woman are not serious relationship material and my friend told me modern men are worst . This opened my mind deeply. Yes men need to work on themselves and you woman need to as well
What podcast did you listen to? Sadia was shot down on every one of her nonsense male hating takes.
Sadia I love and resonate so much with your point that the woman who is simple and doesnt ask for anything loses her value, and that men prefer the women who ask for a lot and are more entitled. Ive experienced this in an 8 year marriage which ended, as a wife I was doing everything cook new meal every day, modest, house presentable everything covered. Even working to help with the bills as he agreed. But never asked for anything, demanded anything, never initiated fights arguments etc. Took care of his wishes and demands. But still ended up being treated like a 2nd thought and constantly tested, walking on eggshells all the time. So I dont understand, men dont want to admit, they want women with attitude and demands and higher maintenance. Why not just appreciate the good low maintenance woman? It hurts
Men know a strong-minded woman will always put herself, and those she cares about deeply, first in a way a meek or even PickMe can't. They also deeply desire the ego trip of dominating the unattainable trophy more than the traditionalism they claim, or they would go for the modest traditional woman in the first place.
@normarndelathassologenesis2967 problem is, i was strongminded, not so meek but always taught to put the husband first. And through observation got the idea that they look down on women who take care of themselves first as selfish, so i never did. Kind of a sub cultural thing. The rest i agree with. This man and his family (the men) had the type of mentality though of attaining the progressive/trophy wife and then caging her like some exotic bird and clipping her wings for the world to see "here, i tamed this one and she does my bidding, im that powerful" subconscious filth, specific to certain types of people.
@@zainub1923 That's most men, even in very conservative traditional cultures, in my experience. Women of my mom's generation used to talk about changing after marriage. Becoming more boring and domestic, and men lamented that they did while often changing for the worse when I was a kid. Women aren't changing much anymore, and men are still complaining about us while changing for the worse. It doesn't matter what we do, how domestic we are, lazy men who don't appreciate their wives aren't new and will never accept accountability for their mediocrity. Most men will forever think being average is decent, even if average isn't good enough.
I lived in the Muslim/Arab world for many years and was married over there too. I think both Western and Muslim cultures today are very extreme and don't support family values. In the Muslim culture they claim that they want a woman like you, but so many ladies find themselves in your spot. Here in the West, most men you can't trust when they walk out the door. I found an Indian, and am happy! Indians living in the West don't want their families broken and try to be happy for the most part. Habibti, I don't think you did anything wrong. Focus on your kids, your career, your wellness, your selfcare and your life. You are awesome and never lower your standards again! I am sure you could see things in him when you met him but you ignored it! Mashala may Allah bless you!!
@@normarndelathassologenesis2967 you are right. There are psycho-social issues in the Arab/Muslim world that make for complicated dynamics. Allah ma Aki habibti!
Kind of interesting how Tate completely avoids the question of "would you date yourself," most likely meaning he knows he's a "high value man," but not a good one, making the answer difficult since that makes him fun, but disloyal. The problem is he wants to live a certain lifestyle where he interacts with girls on the daily, yet wants/expects good girls to stay with him. Kind of hypocritical thinking imo. His version of "love" is essentially just taking care of them financially and that's about it. Loyalty? Forget about it.
When he makes comments of "I'm going out," basically "I'm staying out," how can he expect the girl he's with to accept that when their relationship is meant to be a partnership and it'd currently feel one-sided? Would he be fine if she made the same comment and acted the same, or would that cause problems for him? Basically, if you want a girl to be loyal to you, then you should be expected to do the same.
The term "high value man" is such a ridiculous one, but apparently being a "high value man" = open in every sense with women (which is not always true) and women should just have to accept it and apparently "good girls" do, although when he's flat being disloyal, it doesn't make sense for them to stay. This basically means "high value men" do of course have initial access to good girls, but cannot keep them due to disloyalty. However, good girls don't avoid "high value men" though because being a "high value man" does not automatically = POS, they just generally choose to be.
Yeah, I'm calling it right now. The women with him are seeing other men. There's just no way it's not happening. When you live that lifestyle, you also die by it too. Unless he's got a camera on their punani, there's no way he knows for sure they're not stepping out on him.
Tate seems to want a mindless slave as a partner. But doesn’t seems to know real good girls will be strong enough to resist.
Agree.
I heard Andrew tade also investing in only fans. How he talked, seems like all womens fault. Men watching porn is biological. Men have no control over there body and life
I agree with you, his male promiscuity is ok is the only point I disagree with. I hope after becoming muslim he corrects it becs in Islam promiscuity is haraam for both the genders.
I've dated men like Tate. They are always on 100. They chase excitement, are very smart, enjoy having groups of people around 98% of the time. These men want a woman around for clout. Look good on their arm and keep them the center of attention. If you play along you will be rewarded then replaced!
It's so obvious that Sadia likes Andrew-hair flip, body language, and laughs-while Andrew is loving taking it all in. Someone, please give her some water. 💧😂
hahaha thought exactly the same, she was so excited when he first came in and suddenly started playing with her hair and having these silly laughs. She's doing exactly the same stuff when she tells men when a woman actually likes them, lmao
But tbf, it's Andrew Tate, I bet he'd have her wrapped up in 30 minutes if he really tried.
I was looking for a comment like this cos it seems like everyone is ignoring her giggles and laughter with Tate and if you know her and have seen some content of hers she never acted like that. Lol. Just very entertaining 😆
Predictable.
Iv witnessed a lot of what Sadia talks about, about the nice girl barely getting anything out of her relationship whereas women who have a more entitled and ungrateful personality seem to be given the world by their men.
Nice girls want LOYAL MEN, not like prostitutes that want MONEY
That doesn't make any sense.
@@dasein9980 it does. May be you have never seen it. It happens because nice people do not take actions when someone step in their boundaries for the sake of peace. So most times the other person takes advantage of that because they know they can get away with whatever they do
I was one of them- the nice girl. I think there is a book called men love b*tches. Never read it.
No not true
Great pod cast guys! After seeing this I know the girl in the corner has more self control than sadia! She seems very exited to be around Andrew! Giggling etc.. I’m really surprised by this actually!
That's what they say women become submissive around some guys but will act all tough and ruthless with others.
@@kasimshaikh3750 This is nature for women. I wouldn't even be surprised by the woman sitting next to Sadia she like Andrew Tate too, but she controls her emotions
Lubna is clearly a very strong woman with strong principles. I agree with her.
And I don't think Tate understands that "good girls" also care about EQ, not just bank accounts!
blah blah blah......attractiveness, wealth, status......everything else can be met after those primary requirements.
@@toddjohnson271 see, you’ve only dated bar girls with low morals so you don’t know.
@@toddjohnson271 and with your “blah blah blah dismissive attitude, that’s all you will get. Anyone who has thought out this game called life will avoid you.
EQ isnt real
@@musicplug1730hot young men are real
I have recently started following the Tate brothers since their arrest in Romania, and shocked at how much he says now (2023) that I agree 100% with. However… he’s not right about guys like him having an advantage with all women when it comes to dating. I’m a high value woman and would never get involved with him beyond a platonic level. I’d rather die single than date a guy with his mindset where it’s ok for him to stay out all night and do what he wants because he pays the bills. I can pay my own bills and not deal with all the heartache, thank you.
You would not get involved in a platonic level if you ever decide to engage. The involvement is the doors for all possibilities, and your instincts can betray you when you least expect it.
It's not just money. It's "provide and protect". A man can provide more than money. Emotional Support, safety, security, etc. You provide nurture. Yet modern women can turn it off at anytime. A man can't turn off provide and protect. You think I can say babe today I don't feel like defending you if some guy slaps your ass in the street? We can't turn it off its engraved in us to DIE for you. Literally sometimes die for strangers. It's our duty. And don't come at me with you have money on your own. It's nice to be pampered and spent on. You can give yourself a massage or a self orgasm but it's nicer and feels better when someone else does it. And women CRAVE this. This is why all these independent I can support myself women tend to be miserable when they date guys who make lesser than them. Because if this was true what you said then there would be loads of women staying with their UNEMPLOYED husbands while they brought in the money. No. Eventually you lose interest in them. Tate loves uses comedic humor in his logic. I'm sure he doesn't stay out all day while his wife is at home. But the principal still stands, if he does everything you ever dreamed of n took care of you protected you made u feel safe and secure and was your rock, him going out with his boys to play billiards til 5am drinking wouldn't effect you at all unless he did it constantly. If you actually get to really watch all of his interviews, he bends and actually has some middle ground compassion with his ladies. He stated he used humor and outlandish remarks to capture the algorithm to go viral. After being a Muslim the guy is even more humble now
You're bascially just saying that you prefer a super attractive, powerful man who has many options but is only loyal to you. It's every girl's fantasy. It's the female equivalent of every other guy wanting a hot bikini model wife w/ single digit low body count/or a virgin who isn't crazy. No shit. Difference is that men wouldn't say that if they dont' get that, they'd rather die single. Plus, Tate was being hyperbolic to his persona when he said that. The proof is in the puddling, empirically, anecdotally, and evolutionary biologically, that many women would rather share a Prince w/ other women than be with a bum who is loyal. So he is correct that when he said that guys like him have an advantage. Even if you don't want to date guys like him, you'd still have sex with them. They still win. Therefore, feminism/women's sexual liberation movement actually give highly desirable men that advantage he is talking about. Social Media/Instagram amplifies that advantage even more.
But he is right about high-value men getting women more easily than the average person, and also high-value women being pure and chaste
With the anonymity of social media, I would like to ask women such as yourself the following questions about the kinds of men you would want to have sex with:
1) Can you describe the specific physical characteristics of a man that you would find physically appealing? Can you name a sportsman, a musician, or a man with public profile that have these physical characteristics that you find appealing?
2) If you sit at a bar and notice a man with a handsome face sitting nearby and you find him attractive based on his facial structure, then when he approaches you to introduce himself and you can see clearly that he is a bit shorter than yourself, do you put him in the friend zone or do you still find him sexually attractive?
I don’t understand how you’re not more famous!! Your views are so multifaceted and you are incredibly easy to listen to. Great job!!!
she is becoming big lately... at least i see a lot of pub about her in the last weeks
@@pedroribas1815Same! Shes a breath of fresh air in this "Just pearly things" world filled with 400 people who have the same rhetoric and stats. She seems to have unique view points and is a pretty balanced woman.
I can totally listen to a Tate and Sadia only podcast all day!
She couldn't go all the way through it thou before jumping him over the table 🤣
I thought Tate was cool til I learned how he scammed guys for tons of money, guys lost their homes from phony Instagram model promises...and Tate bragged about it, he's a low life scum. A liar and thief, Google Corey Wayne and Tate, see that it's true.
For a balanced conversation or discussion we need to have different view points all these people are somewhat on the same side. We need promiscuous women to mix in
Sadia acting like a high school girl.
I have tremendous respect for the other girl who has more self control and confidence.
And actually put some unique arguments.
This is assuming women are only interested in money. Some of us care more about emotional awareness, consistency and the ability to commit. This conversation is so shallow and materialistic.
Couldn’t agree more. 💯
you can say whatever you want, but at the end of the day, you wouldn't love and respect a McDonald's cashier...or am I wrong?
@@bc_qbeval well it would depend on the circumstances but generally at my age (41) no I wouldn’t. The reason being if they were a McDonald’s cashier in their 40’s the chances are they can’t commit to a career/direction in life. In my experience people who can’t commit in other areas of their life often can’t commit in relationships either. Of course there are extenuating circumstances and it would depend on the person and their story.
@@manifest.love.light.laughter Got it. You're no less shallow and materialistic than the people in this video. You're just better at masking it.
Those other characteristics you listed that you look for in a partner are SECONDARY after the prerequisite money/lifestyle threshold is met by the man.
Great excerpt. I already listened to the entire podcast when it came out. Great conversation. Thank you!
He is wrong, i am a good girl and i wouldn't give him the time of the day 100%. I only like guys that respect me and treats me good. I don't think he ever met truly decent women. He probably met women who pretended to have values and all.
you need to meet him in person first, then come back and edit this comment.
Because he will make you accountabile for your actions and choices and he will make you face your own emotions and he will never lie to you when you ask for his honesty. He won't let you even ONCE talk to him or treat him like rubbish, he will walk away when you try play manipulative games and you'd be the one begging to renegage in conversation after he hasn't spoken first because he won't. He loves himself to much for anything less. This is something weak women can't handle and that ain't me trying to put you down it's the truth. It really isn't for the faint of hearted women. You want a comfort zone life with a man then a high valued man is not for you.
You are exceptional. Most women don't think as you do.
Totally agree with Sadia, been in this dynamic twice at home with the kids being a good girl with men that chase hypersexulised women!!!
16:20 100% true. Shy, less confident guys can barely look at me. Anytime some of them got to talk to me because of circumstances, they told me that they would've never approached me because they couldn't have even dreamt about having a chance with me...🤦🏻♀️
Tate is basically a dork that learned to fight lol
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Nice girls, unfortunately for me, do indeed finish last these days. I was completely betrayed by the man I was loyal and dedicated to for 5 years. I was a beautiful, shattered 23 year old left to pick up the pieces after he cheated and got another woman pregnant. He married her immediately after she fell pregnant. This is the same man who once tried to convince me that I was "socially conditioned to want children." Literally his words verbatim. I've healed myself since then and I'm with an incredible man who would never dream of manipulating me like that dunce did, but it's hard not to get triggered by the supposition that men harbour none of responsibility for the utter psychological atrocities they commit against good, wholesome women who doted upon them, and then spiraled due to sheer heartbreak. Sadia is absolutely on the ball on this topic.
That’s your fault.
You picked the wrong man probably because you were too young. Take responsibility for your bad choice and congratulations on making a good one. All Sadia has to provide is that it is all men's fault because they're evil, which resonates with bitter women, and yet you've clearly found a good man disproving the claim. And then you conveniently forget the "utter psychological atrocities they commit against good, wholesome" MEN!!! Nobody gives a damn about men's feelings or healing.....we just need to suffer in silence and get over it and keep it to ourselves because that would be unmanly and thus unattractive. Stats don't lie that male self-deletion is far, far higher than women and typically caused by problems WITH women, such as sexless-ness and divorce. Stop portraying yourself or your gender as the victim, as all women do, when stats clearly show you aren't. All men should stand up and refuse to be gaslit any further by women based on their feelings on matters that are clearly contrary to the facts.
@@flipedude5404 Regardless if your quote is true" That’s your fault." You seem like a child who doesn't understand life yet, good luck champ
Every time I listen to this stuff it's spot on and it is really devastating.
I think Andrew and Sadia should just take it into the other room and get the dirty deed out of the way, while the other two good humans have a constructive conversation about real people and helping society.
Sadia is shy version of kim Kardashian
Thank you, it’s so obvious it isn’t even funny. Look how the other two handling this conversation. They’re mostly getting ignored or cut off
The moment Tate walks in Sadia`s body language goes 180 :)))
I know…. I didn’t know she had such a bad taste in men…..
Having watched her interview with Tom Bileue on Impact Theory, I think she's still working through a lot of past relationship and especially religious/cultural trauma but in a unique place to articulate nuanced understanding from a place of poise. Tate's behaviors and background isn't too far off from the conservative Arab/Muslim cultural norms Sadia grew up with.
While she still questions the religious influence and expressed being most comfortable with those traditional guidelines she also expressed how the extremes of what [popular aka usually shallower coopted] representations of women's empowerment like OnlyFans and open relationships (rather than the idea that women should have a right to choose those things without systemic harm attached even though not all those things are necessarily good for all women).
To clarify, a lot of psychologists point out quick chemistry can come from relating to someone who is either reminiscent of and/or also has familiar past developmental trauma as you, I think that's what we're seeing play out here even though she's probably aware of it some people will still behave accordingly like being triggered even though they know there are things that aren't really right.
@@mariajoshvlog Bad taste. Not all women have the same taste. She saw value in him that you did not see
@@M.SA93 oh yes… not many can understand the values of a pimp.. agreed!
The min Tate said ‘what wonen want….’ I’m done. He can’t possibly know what women want!
probably from his first hand life experiences with woman
Loyal attractive young men are
The only way to truly understand and come to an agreement on this topic is to not look at it solely from a man/woman perspective but also take into account the stages of the ego’s development and consciousness levels of all humans. Do these people know about spiral dynamics and the map of consciousness?!?! Ken Wilber, David Hawkins, Clare Graves, Beck and Cowan’s work?!?!
This conversation is all about the desire to have choice and aiming for the best. That way it never ends. The goal should be to settle down, even if she/he is not the best and to choose each other every day no matter what. But that nowadays is looked down upon. As if we were entitled to the best the world has to offer
Married an alpha male loved giving to him - he couldn't do monogomy. Married a beta man peaceful loving kind - presence love and peace - it is the best.
Sadia on fire when Tate enters the room. This podcast is done by the two😂
I never wanted a guy who ignores me and barely replies! Maybe young girls are interested in those people, but not me.
It's also quite hard to find a loyal, loving and honest man who wants to get married in the west.
You can create good girls! Yeah becsuse of your money
Those guys couldn't be more wrong...
Andrew is smart. The other two at the end who aren't psychologists don't understand the root causes of these issues on a deep level like Sadia does and so aren't thinking critically.
They just dumb.
It doesn't matter. We have all types of mindsets coming together to have a dialogue on a table.
Btw r u a psychologist too?
@@aadiadam You can have an opinion on things, but that doesnt mean youre addressing the truth. Thats what OP is talking about.
@@aadiadam You don't have to be one to be able to think critically
@@positronikiss Exactly.
It’s amazing to me how Tate still has a grasp on how the real world works despite being as successful as he has for as long as he has been. Completely in touch with reality.
I recommend the book: "Attached: The New Science of Adult Attachment and How It Can Help You Find - and Keep Love"- it explains why "good girls" look for bad guys and "good guys" take bad girls. All are emotionally unstable and non of them are actually really "good" but are very unhealthy to date. Broken people attract broken people, so broken women and broken men do only choose from the same type, is the same as having no choice. Unless you want to be in a toxic relationship. Stable people do not date broken people, regardless the looks or status! With self-work, people can become stable, it is possible but they would need to want it. Andrew isn't dateable at this stage. And the guy, he is talking about, that is Alpha, muscly, successful and loyal, sits right next to him but he can't see it because his inner childhood programming doesn't allow it. Once we heal we see people differently. Is also not just about believing in God but it is actually spiritual awakening. When you can feel it in your body what random sex does to you, you will not want it again ever, no matter what kind of A-man you are! You become a Soul in a body and not a Body, who has a soul.
Spot on!
13:17 What Tate doesn't want to admit is the answer is "no", he would not date himself. He would definitely reject his problematic self because that's what he does with women also. 😂 He avoids answering the question straight forward and shifts in his seat because it's that uncomfortable. 😂
Nah the question itself is stupid.
No one wants to date themselves lol. Ask that to anyone majority wont
If he said "yes", he would come off as a narcissist.
This is a psychological discussion not on everyone intellectual level ... amazing discussion seriously theres many perspectives and relevancy in all aspects thats a challenge in modern society 👏
I don’t think he’s ignorant I think Sadia made a point about how that person isn’t seeing the bigger picture (because he’s not subjected to other women that are “nice girls”, if he’s only accustom to being around “hoes” and other promiscuous women how could he understand how it is to be around a good woman and learn her.
No matter the status of a man we are all human beings and knowing that, not all women care about a high status. It depends on her morals and values. 12:30 “would you date yourself?”
Being high status man is not an excuse to see other women when you have a wife or a girlfriend 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Stop wasting her time and once you grow up than commit to a woman who you truly love
I can’t find the words to tell you how much I appreciate hearing this conversation ❤ my faith is so strong because I see myself in you guys as I listen . I feel connected and not alone . It’s nice to see the awakening and discernment people have such as this podcast ❤it’s so relieving . I pray on this that it will reach millions of people because we are not alone we are not disconnected we are in this together to help society ❤
I used to think Tate kinda made some serious points, but I think they’re all disolusional and disconnected from average men and women. A recent red flag I have learned recently is to avoid dating advice from uneducated people who are nowhere near a healthy relationship. Most of us find a good person we can build a life with. The struggle of dating is real regardless of gender if you’re in this for the long game AKA Marriage.
There's a lot of disenfranchised young men out there, who struggle essentially because they're ugly and wanting a girlfriend that isn't. Tate has found a way to monetise them.
He very articulate sorta intelligent,but listen closely he contradicts and lies speaks in substantiated claims,badivally bs
Its funny how everybody speaks about having someone, getting someone, but no word about what to do then about it, running in a circle and laying Eggs?
Sadia, thank you for trying to shake some sense in these people. They're quite impossible to get through. Stay strong girl ❤
By the way - how does state even qualify to be part of this conversation???? He’s exactly the kind of man who don’t talk about love, relationships and strong good men !!! That’s why he never answered the question thrown at home. How can he???
All I get from Tate is just be handsome, have a yacht, a jet, ton of money and you could afford to be a jerk with 99%of girls. Ehhh man
Thank you so much for talking about this, it is really alarming 😔😔🥺😔😔😔..God help us all.😔🙏...cos, relationships are changing because of the social media and the things we views online has really messed up men and women's mind that it will be bringing in a Godless generation.
Sadia is right, Andrew’s vision is limited, he only sees the girls who approach him and who’s around him. I share most of his views, but I would stay miles away from him.
"I think nice guys are trying harder than she'll admit, but she won't give them a chance."
Facts from Tate.
Also facts: he didn't answer the question he was asked.
This was nice to hear everyone be honest and intellectually sound.
I would be interested in what this panel would suggest society do to fix this skewed state of affairs?
18.10. I told my son to save and prepare for his future so that his wife and children don't suffer. I also advised him to spend according to his means. Also have a savings to afford food for a year. People suffer because they don't manage money properly.
These both girls are very smart and aware of the hidden society's plan
If you understand what islam is, nothing about high value based on status, money, and power. The value from man or women that we would like to find is the one who's a good muslim. The purpose will be the same to bring along all your family members to jannah/heaven. That is a true value and strong meaning for anything that makes u patient, tolerant, stay loyal, and content.
Amen to this. Exactly! This modern definition of high value men and women is nothing more than mental illness. I find it disgusting and unnatural.
This is in religion, but in society and human nature, the opposite is true. Women will focus on what a man has in terms of financial value, and a man will focus on the beauty of the woman, even if they are Muslims. The goal will not be love. It is all personal interests, but what they talk about in the broadcast is about women who are approached by a good man who wants her. But she does not see any value in it, and then she goes to bad men and has relationships with them after that, when she reaches a certain age after enjoying herself, she wants a good man. This is the point because it is known that women get relationships with more men than the man himself, and most men never get relationships at all. It is a famous phrase. A nice man is always the last choice of women
I’m a Muslim women and a virgin. Pray that I’m protected from Andrew Tate and Myron. I am not compatible with them
I love the chemistry and pull between Tate and Sadia
They might hookup
She wouldn't touch him with s barge pole!
I think Tate is smitten by her
Thank you for captions!!!
I completely disagree with Andre rate on this one. Every man who’s a skirt chaser I’ve ever come across is a broke dude!!!!! Their time and energy is being spent on chasing women and sex instead of using that energy wisely!!! Then I’ve seen the guys who have been with their wives 24+ years and guess what they’re well established, building businesses and actually building a future!
Does anyone else find that Tate sounds completely delusional here? “Good girls” DO want security, a strong, trustworthy man who has enough self-control and self-respect to be loyal to his woman.
I don’t feel like he has anything to offer but money and physical protection. I thought men wanted respect? Why would a good woman respect a man who admittedly has no self-control and isn’t true to his word (“you said you’d come home” “I’m out!”)?
Not to mention all of these references to “top G” and “influencers” and “men in their DMs”…
This was a nice enough conversation but I don’t know that it speaks to the general population. I may be wrong though. Is everyone really DMing strangers and following good-looking influencers on Instagram??
💯💯 Tate is over exaggerating how things are in the real/normal world and talks in extremes to make a point!! Nonsense!!
He’s grosssss 🤮🤮🤮
Great discussion and no arguments with much of all that was said. Any chance we could have another meeting like this but with Dr. Orion Taraban, PsyD? That would take this discussion to a new level.
Unimportant dude working at Starbucks at 42:) I guess some of the most successful businessmen came from blue-collar works
I spoke to many people about this n the real problem is settling trying to convince women to not like the powerful guy n if the only guys that are going to treat her right...is short and standard when she is beautiful, smart, loyal is that she cant be authentic. Sleeping with someone that she cringes at every night n have to talk herself into liking him...thats not fair to the guy or her. So if their choosing to be alone instead if that or getting cheated on n just being a slut..this topic should just stop being discussed. Now she's calling herself a boss chick since that is her REAL only option. Or she's just going to be alone instead of hate her life cuz she's married to some1 she doesn't even want to look at. Eventually that builds resentment
So many people are so stuck on themselves they can not get past themselves and end up being alone
7.46 ply help him Sadia 😂😂😂. He loved being the top dog. Yet failed to acknowledge that top dog is a dog. 😂😂😂😂
I don't see what the other girl is saying about it being hard for men to find loyal women. I see so many women staying in unhealthy relationships getting used and leaving lot on the table. Many women now are utilizing the same morality that apparently men say they have. I don't believe that we should have such low standards for men and expect them to give into their lowest nature as it would be wrong if women were to do it. If we're being honest that is why women have changed and become less moral and wants to go for a man with money because the logic is if I'm going to deal with having to accept immoral behavior from my partner then I would rather be with a simp who has money and be a kept woman. But one thing I notice is that whenever a woman benefits in a relationship men treat it like its negative almost like there is a power struggle of who can be on top.
People shouting over each other to shoehorn their own opinion in.
Constantly chopping and dropping threads.
“You have a skewed image” and “here’s a politicians answer” are quite revealing answers
Does anyone else notice that this other girl lubna or whatever is trying to indirectly show she's the perfect type of girl by saying women should live life like how she does and secondly she's indirectly competing with sadia or feeling intimidated by always having her opinion on what sadia has to say especially when Andrew tate walks in and agrees to what sadia says lol
Yes definitely! It was funny 😂😂 She wants to disagree so bad and it makes her look and sound unwise
Lubna makes some good points though.
Lol I dunno what world Andrew lives in, good reliable men are not easy to find. The moment I found my “ Nissan” I said yes to him, that was a very rare find . I’ve been married for 5 years and I still think the same.
Yeah it's a skewed reality that's often overlooked because of his charismatic and conversational dominance. He projects his own mentality about people, whether men or women, using crude supply and demand logic. And that's saying it gently, he's been accused or even indicted on human trafficking charges if I recall correctly and openly makes entitled statements that treat women as easy to manipulate commodities when they face people like him.
The reality that a lot of people are missing when we really look into what he claims is that some people confuse initial signals for attraction with what actually makes a quality relationship that lasts.
I wish Sadia would let people finish a sentence.
She wants to hear what Andrew says and nobody else.
What I disagree with Andrew Tate is on one thing. The quality of a mans character and his social and seduction skills are a great equalizer. Most women just need you to be able to support them if they cant work, because most of them nowadays dont want to be completely dependent on a man (wich I like). Most women dont need you to be a "top G". As a man you do need to aproach women in a genuine and honest way or else you are relying on fate and luck. Thats where the social and seduction skills come into play. Of course, if you are tall, fit and good looking it helps, teenage boys learn that very early, but if you cant make a woman feel the emotions she needs to feel to be atracted to you and love you long term, those superficial qualities dont matter much.
Bingo! 👏👏. Sooo true what you said I am one of those women with a guy that has all those looks..but I'f I didn't FEEL his heart... then I would have gone 25 years ago. Im always working on this emotional intimate connection. I couldn't care about diamonds and Gucci bags.
Sadia fell in love with Andrew.
I better live alone ..what the hell we want from each other ladies and gentlemen? It just take’s respect and love given to each other at the end…
when sadia said that when you are an ugly man, there are many ugly men you can relate to unlike an unatractive woman😂😂😂😂😂
Girl you held your own in this one I started to get a headache 😂😂
I can honestly say I never chose that and I have a few friends that never did either so I guess it’s not everyone
It amazes me how men, such as Andrew claim he wants a good girl to stay home and not question him when he's out, when they would never tolerate that from women. So as men and women how can you expect loyalty and respect when you don't have it? it works both ways.
Sorry but you can't talk about every man and woman as they are the same. With the same outcomes in life , crazy.
Tinder is proof Ugly girls have choices. These 1s are acting like 10s
This is an awesome podcast
He literally has been running an OF business lmao. What a clown
What makes me laugh is that men use these women and belittle them. There is nothing of merit for the women or men that life. I respect Andrew for his accomplishments but, don't feel envy or jealousy because my women would never be available to anyone but me. True value is when you are received, cherished and loved for oneself rather than esoteric assets which we build together.
I think giving men the platform to think they’ve got “certain kinds of women” figured out - when in fact they’re just being misogynists is soo dangerous. And no one is actually calling them out or correcting their thinking.
Andrew Tate? Be soo for real. He’s not even an upstanding man but give him the platform to berate women?
That other girl that’s a writer is not the critical thinker that she thinks she is.
No objectivity in sight. This conversation was soo shallow. Just buzz words and generalizations being thrown around.
Right. These guys just be over talking people. Between Sadia and Princella Clark. I’m glad some women with sense are starting to speak out. These guys deliberately surround themselves with dumbT bimb0s and then think they are really saying something 😂
😂😂😂
Thank you 👏🏽 oh my I’m so glad you’ve just said this. Just lost ALL respect for Sadia seeing her giggle at every little thing he says. If that was anyone else she’d be correcting him but she’s letting him speak over her 🤮 and flirting with him.. He’s so loud but nothing intelligent comes from his mouth. Since when does ‘high value’ not include emotional intelligence. ?!? This term high value needs to be re defined. He’s not high value if he’s disrespectful he’s damaged and has mommy issues. He’s literally traumatising women by not ‘coming home ‘ and expecting them to stay. That’s called emotional abuse!! Funny how she’s not calling it out plainly for what it is. Any woman that would stay with him is already deeply broken and traumatised. This whole conversation is misogynistic. No one gets to decide if a woman is empowered being ‘half naked’ or not but that woman herself !!!! Fact. Jokes on them ! Many women are lost on only fans/ insta YES! But Most people who talk like this about women’s bodies are suppressed- jealous of women who can wildly express themselves.. clothes on or off it can be an Art too, if you’re not an artist you’ll never know it. You’ll just look on with judging eyes. Bye to watching conversations of status hungry know it all misogynists like this. Disappointed she was even part of this convo
men's weakness is women, whereas women's weakness is material things/wealth No one can deny this.
I've noticed the good traditional girls who has all her stuff together and looks attractive can still be mistreated and overlooked by men and these failed men will still go after the plastics and the ungrateful materialistic women who demand stuff but doesn't work for it. Shame on those men who fails to spot a good loyal women who are there to love a man and not his assets. If men want gold diggers then that's what they'll get but please stay away from good loyal women because they need to be preserved for better men out there ❤
A girl could be a "good girl" to a guy if she is super attracted to giving that he is powerful, confident and sets his boundaries. That same girl could also be a "bad girl" to another guy if he has no backbone and let her run all over him and cheat on him.
Sometimes women like to assume, or just shame high status men for liking bad girl/gold diggers etc., when really they're just jealous that those men for overlooking them and go after girls who are more attractive. Could those more attractive women be gold diggers,? yes of course. But most of time they conflate those two to cope with that fact that high value men picks younger, hotter women, so they try to shame them both. It is the female equivalent of an unimportant man w/ low status/confidence bitching about how hot girls go after assholes and eff boys instead of picking him who is never going to cheat on her. Could it be that these "assholes and eff boys" are just more masculine and have better game,higher status, etc. than him? also yes.
Great conversation. Thoroughly enjoyed it. Agreed to a lot. But didn’t identify with a few things said. Like ‘you don’t find good girls at clubs’. That’s a little sad. At the end of the day, regardless of nationality, religion or gender, there are just 3 things that matter - value, choice and culture. Women are powerful gate keepers and men were supposed to be protectors of the gatekeepers They both play equal parts. Differently but equally important.
That's right, you won't get a good woman in a clubs
Although i enjoyed the convo i do feel it was one sided at times where Safia made excellent points but would get talked over by Tate and other lady. Sadia points still stand. Andrew would not date himself if he was a woman. He has a big enough ego to want to say he would, but couldn't. So i do think he is actually authentic 😅
Where does personality, kindness, and honesty come in all this? All it seems like is looks, money, power. What????
100% agree. The whole lot are shallow and the only God they follow is the one of this world. 😈
Understood everything sadia said. These are so entitled men and never wanna admit on their part.
Always felt woman more socially adept. When choosing a long term , will gravitate towards a higher social status. Where the less competitive girls want the same n will choose a man not quite established but judge his potential
Once you give to the nice guy a chance, he will build his self esteem on your decision on picking him and he will dump you because now he have the courage to approache
Sadia is feminine and wiser than most women her age, but still shortsighted about male-female dynamics. Her beauty resulted in her never needing to understand how the game works, so she's missing that life experience.
I am sorry but sadia cheekbones don't look normal and she doesn't not look hot she looks old sorry just being honest
I'm so glad to see Saaida and Tate on this conversion ❤❤❤❤
This conversation gets better and better.
What about women who do choose to stay with men who have nothing only for those men to leave when they have everything?
23.05. Women leave men after going through shit for years. They give him a chance again and again until its unbearable or she dies 😂😂😂
I agree w/ Lubna that women bear the responsibility to hold the standards to a certain level regardless of what is going on with society. I also agree w/ Andrew Tate and that other guy that average men or loser men have no choices whereas loser girls do have choices b/c of their sexual power. The Prophet (SAW) said that men's weakness is women, whereas women's weakness is material things/ wealth. This hadith clearly answers the hardwired nature of a man and a woman and the reason we often see rich older men w/ gorgeous young women.
Sadia, it may be your personal experience and that of your friends and clients of the good girl not getting the guy but like Andrew tate said, you've completely crossed off the loser guys and are only looking at the super confident Alpha male, Top G. Even Loser women have options b/c men will always give her the time b/c of her sex appeal, whereas women do not give loser guys the time.
Sadia's classic female instincts are coming right out here supporting why good men finish last 8:17-8:28
Tate putting on a Clinic!!
My solution is to not live together that way he can do what he wants when he wants, if he was living with me then I wud have expectations and demands. I'm happier and so is he hopefully xxxx
One thing I could say different to these men, is that, materialism of life isn’t every man’s aspiration and inspiration to drive. They make it seem all flesh and tangibilities, not accepting contentment’s of life. It’s like having power and options vs not understanding at all what it’s like not having power and options. Thus, nothing wholesome is coming out of their mouths. I could balance the table easily here, it’s just a peaceable shout match.
It’s like they only experienced the pain of their own choices, and thus, their advice and “wisdom” on men and women is perverted. What you aren’t hearing is, a balance of understanding all of the perverted relations of life, but having a wholesome/moral solution to advise. It’s all trauma and pain.
They should speak for themselves.
8:40 the host said it himself "accidentally" After saying the (based on poor correlation) statement: Women want the bad guys, he compared Jeremy Meeks to the other criminal. Why aren't they going crazy over the other guy? Because People care about looks, and in this case, women. They care about good looking people who can AFFORD to be bad (it might be a plus really, but its secondary, far behind looks). They dont want the "bad boy" criminal dominant dude , just because of that. Otherwise, every unattractive dude who had these personality traits and attitude would have success. They care about appearance, and super attractive people can afford to be ANYTHING they want without consequences when it comes to mate selection. NOT being a needy overly pseudo nice person and unattractive, can only give you some more respect than the unattractive weak needy guys. That's all.