Is This 370bhp Modified Golf R Mk7.5 The Ultimate Daily?
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- Last month I drove a Golf R, to see if it could be a great sports car and it left me cold. This month, I am trying a newer Mk7.5 car with a different suspension and a map to 370bhp. Its owner thinks it will convince me of the Golf's worth - but will it?
Mods are:
RacingLine VWR 20mm springs, H&R Antiroll bars front and back, and Revo Stage 1 mapping.
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FYI - I've now sold this "Baby GTR". She just is not suited to the roads where I live now... nearest fuel station that sells 99RON petrol; 22 miles one way. Fuel tank was good for 220 miles. I used 20% of a tank (roughly £15) to simply fill her up and get home again. Combine that with the nearest shop being 17 miles from home... yea you get the picture.
Anyone that watches this and isn't sure about buying a Golf R... DO IT, the best car I've owned by a mile or three. A couple of tweaks and you have a car that dominates at the track, looks subtle and clean, doesn't break down, and is hilarious fun. It isn't cheap, but it's really effing worth it. I miss her every day now... then I just drive my Hilux up the mountain behind my house and get my noisy fix of motoring silliness.
What suspension mods had you put in this car?... U was planning on getting racing line lowering springs.. is that enough?
@@LordNimbrod
The RacingLine springs are good on their own. I didn't do a complete coilover kit simply because it was my daily, and the stock shocks are much comfier than after market stiffer sets. The real difference was the ARB's. The springs helped keep the wheels planted, and really improved the look of the car... but the ARB's removed almost all body roll, which meant much flatter cornering. Most owners only swap the front ARB, I did both, and I'm really glad I did.
@@JayOfBurn ok thanks... also after reading your previous comment.. do you think the result of your fuel economy is because of the stage 1 revo tune?.. i was thinking whether to do the same or not.. Still contemplating.
@@LordNimbrod
It's worth it. It really brings the car to life. The fuel efficiency is supposedly better after a stage 1 remap, a lot of guys in the owners club reported about a 5mpg improvement. I tended to drive quite spirited most of the time, so would normally be getting 21-24mpg. Ticking over on the motorway it would happily sit around 38mpg though.
The Golf R... the car I wanted to hate but now utterly revere and would dearly love to own.
If I have to be perfectly honest I started watching because you reminded me of the character Ricky from the show Trailer Park Boys.
Not seen it. Should I be offended?
No offence meant, so hope not. I'm enjoying the videos and I'm glad I found your channel.
JayEmm on Cars you probably should tbh😂
I can't unsee that now 😂
Worst case Ontario
Just watched a 16 min video while hungover and all I watched to see what the car doing some brutal launch’s
Just Had my 2018 310 r mapped stage 1 Unicorn self tune. Love it. It’s like being in a lower gear every time.
You're my favourite petrol head on RUclips right now... Keep up the good work 👏👏👏👏✨
You raise a very good point that very few journalists have ever talked about. In the snow/icey/very wet rear wheel drive is boardering on dangerous if you're not a very good driver.
I live in a rural part, and have spun my BWM 318 (E46) more times than all my other cars put together. Mostly due to driving it at similar speeds as previous cars Saab 95, VW Passat (all FWD). The only other car I've had issues with is going back many years when I had a succession of Ford Sierra's also RWD. I was young and felt indestructible then so found it fun.
On roads where the snow has frozen then fresh snow has fallen RWD is almost lethal.
Jay I really like your reviews and how you take your time to describe how you feel about them. Great review!
Thanks Ryan!
Great video and great car and content . Best looking golf
Enjoyed the road rage haha. More content please. 5 vid's a day should suffice. :)
great review as always
Hey Jay,
Love your videos, first of all; the mixture of every day, old and interesting and then the obvious halo products are brilliant, and the no bullshit approach is akin to Harry Metcalfe, Chris Harris and Henry Catchpole. Top work!
Can I just ask, where do you drive around?? The roads look like they could be either Essex, South Cambs or even Suffolk.... always keen to seek out a new, ahem, route ;)
Thanks again for the content, and any more interesting and old stuff then please do it; I personally loved the AMG series and bargain luxo-barge videos!!
Nice review, considered and original. Everything most RUclipsrs aren't.
Thankyou. I try. I actively avoid reading other reviews until after mine, as I don't like my opinion being tainted by others
Beautiful, this is exactly what I’ve been saying for a long time. I have a 1.8turbo Audi A3, I’m 21. This is gonna be my next car or the next generation by then, what you said around 14:00 is what I’m like. I’m sensible but want a little bit of fun now and again 🤗
I’m sensible but want a little bit of fun now and again too, but I'm 71........
Not much can live with one of these on a road like that when tuned. These new golf R’s are genuinely crazy fast
They really are
Lol mine is a stage 1 APR 93 octane high torque tuned 2018 Tornado Red DSG Golf R with APR carbon fiber intake and stage 2 carbon fiber turbo inlet pipe. I love it!
Midwest Racing Channel do you recommend the stage 2? Any drawbacks? My 2009 GTI just died, and I’m considering a MK7.5 Golf R, vs. Focus RS, vs. AMG CLA45. I live stateside. This would be a daily for me. Any constructive input would be appreciated.
@@RacesForTheChannel no one cares
These R's are pretty much identical to the s3's and rs3's, so a little engine remap and other computer tweaks you can do unlocks a whole lot more car underneath. Plus there's a lot of Audi quality hidden in these as well. That's why the engine can handle so much more.
The RS3's low down torque is significantly better than even a stage 1 S3/Golf R, but generally the value for money is great with these Golfs.
Excellent review. I have the exact same Golf R Mk7.5 DSG with ACC stock suspension I've fitted a JB4 so similar power to Stage 1 and it's a fantastic daily, huge power and stability on hand but just as happy doing a shopping trip, DSG in S mode for anything fast otherwise D is fine and fantastic economy as a cruiser only fault bit thirsty around town or short trips with cold starts.
Agree re. the cold start = thirst thing. I often do a regular 19 mile trip, & return 2/4 hours later, 33 mpg out, 37 mpg return yesterday, similar traffic & a faster return too.
Hi, how do you find thr jb4? Im picking my r estate 7.5 friday and i feel that i will need more power. Im trading my focus rs (too small for new baby) for the r eatate. The rs had a plug and play dreamscience, which was great due to it being quick to take the map off to standard and reapply after ford service etc. Also i knew o could easily take it off for warrenty issues had i needed it to. I cant find tje equivalent type of plug and play for the golf. Any ideas?
And finally a couple of chase and follow shots.... a few more chase shots would be nice but a great video as always.
There was limited material to work with and the technique needs work. Plus I can only do it in the dry at the moment
JayEmm on Cars
And the lead car not to drive too fast... :-/ sorry about that.
Loving the shirt collection. You should start your own clothing range!
I'd love one !, i just wouldn't want the hassle of someone trying to steal it every 2 minutes , remarkable piece of Engineering by VAG engineers, Another Great video James
Golf R MK7.5 is a monster, I autocrossed it, and it became my first mate. I did it all stock in Race mode, with all assists off.
I'd be interested in seeing that... any videos of it you could upload? Maybe give a walk around with the build?
TheSinMOG all comes down to wear your live
Quite right on the R in poor weather - they’re very popular lease mobiles here in Québec. Your earlier point about dead steering however, part convinced me not to get one.
Jay you should try mine stage 3 revo it will blow your mind and love the golf r 😊
Possibly the other R's tyre pressures were off or even overinflated? might explain why they feel so different.
Maybe, the 7.5 was not perfect but certainly better
I have a golf r 7.5 as my daily driver and its the best hot hatch I’ve ever owned. I have a 991.1 GTS as my weekend car and take it on that road between Sudbury and Castle Hedingham on a pretty regular basis, great road.
Fancy having the GTS reviewed?
Sorry mate bit precious about my 911. Great videos by the way.
Haha no problem! Always need to do more owner profiles if you fancy that. Last of an Era those 991.1s
Take one for the team.
Thought it was the headingham road or near. Had two golf R’s as work tools. Just got a 7.5 coming Thursday 3dr dsg new one which I’ll take to 400bhp again. I was so close to ordering an M240i last week but as my sensible 19 year old son will be driving it as well I opted for Golf again with winter in mind. Saying that I’ve ran my 911’s down that road lots, and they grip a lot better than An rear wheel drive M car.
My e92 m3 daily has no trouble with traction in 4-6" snow... just fit winter tires!
Rob Craighill Most cars don't have problems with fresh(ish) snow when shod with winter tyres. Even my little Caterham 7 didn't do too badly, and that's about as bad a case you can get. Low weight, little of it on the rear. But reality bites, even with winter tyres. You cant defy the laws of physics.
What parts were fitted to modify the R? Would be great to know brand and specs etc? It would be cool if you could get hold of a standard 7.5 and back to back with the standard 7 as I'm not sure anybody has ever done this. Intrigued to know if the differences were as marked as this review suggests they might be. Keep up the good work!
Fisher
They weren't. The 7.5 was just as lifeless in the steering department and when pushing on, especially on roads you didn't know, you always had the feeling the front would let go first. Driving on a circuit proved it be pretty faithful, but numb.
So, new top mounts to change front camber from 0.5 degrees to 2.5 degrees, front geometry change to put some toe out to help the inside front wheel pull the front in as lock is applied, a stiffer rear anti roll bar, a tweak geometry on the rear to add some toe out, created a very different car that had a front end completely locked on. Would rotate around the front, and on a dry road you knew well, you could be on full throttle often before the apex.
However, whilst fine in the dry and wet, once the roads had become greasy, and tyres were cold with winter temps, the car had a propensity to break away from the rear either trail breaking, or on a trailing throttle into and apex. This could be nullified by applying some positive throttle, which then sent some power to the rear, but was a little too extreme for me, especially as my wife drives the car regularly and just wants a daily driver. This has been resolved by putting a little toe in to the rear to stabilise it. Doesn't seem to have upset the overall revised handling balance, but will need warmer temps and a known road to find the slight difference it has made. There will always be a trade off.
Nick Frost! That’s who you remind me of, but with car knowledge lol.
“If you had a 20 year old son and he’s sensible”
Me: a 21 year old who isn’t sensible but is planning on getting a R soon 👁👄👁
Would love to see you review the new Mazda3 turbo.
Would really like to know what you think of my 3.0 944 turbo one day. Hope you come to the states eventually.
It'll happen. Incidentally, I drove a 944 turbo briefly once. It was cool. Where in the US are you?
You should have named the suspension mods used. Especially given it was a good choice
Racingline VWR 20mm springs, H&R front and rear anti-roll bars. ;)
looks like the wing mirrors are up ?
This filmed around Great Cressingham Swaffham way or am I way off the mark. Not looked at any roadsigns.
1 question. Our friend who was looking at a bmw against this, how many days of the year will be snowy? 1? Maybe 2 or 3 tops?
Well, I live in the West Highlands of Scotland now , and can tell you... I bought a Hilux. I loved my R, but it must be told that a (what turned into) 400bhp beast is not intended for a sheep farm, which is where I live. Great on the road, but took me so long to get along the 1.2mi track to the farm track that by the time I got there, I just wanted to leave her and go home. Too low, too much power. By Lawrie, I miss that car.
If u want to try it now stage 2 and see the difference your more than welcome, 😉
Did you like it better than type r honda
In Australia, a twenty year old is banned from driving cars such as the Golf R. I would have thought that the UK was the same.
How are they banned in Australia? There is no law against it here
@@JayEmmOnCars power to weight restrictions
Did you ever do the c63 yet ???
How about T Roc R review?
What engine mods were done on this then?
Remap, that's it
@@JayEmmOnCars which remap? APR, JB4??
Well balanced & accurate review again, well done sir ;-)
That's almost the double of my Mk7.5R, but mines a manual as I wanted just that bit more involvement, & the gearbox/clutch is great even if it won't take a remap due to torque limitations.
I test drove a year old M235i the same day & felt the R was freer revving, (less lazy somehow) even if it sounded slightly better, but only just, as somewhat muffled.
My Q is however what exact suspension has been used on this car? as I'm after changing mine as didn't want ACC either ;-)
TIA
I'm sure the owner can come along to confirm the kit used
Great thanks 👍
Mike Shacklock
Hi Mike. They're RacingLine VWR 20mm springs, and H&R antiroll bars. Works a treat and feels great. You should be able to remap even with the manual box, it'll adjust the fuel/air mix to squeeze the horses out of the stock internals. Worth looking into, it releases the beastly power that the little block has locked away.
Did you try the DSG before you went manual?
Yup, standard non-DCC dampers. I didn't go down the road of swapping the shocks as I didn't want it to be so stiff that it's not a comfortable daily. Plus, I live where there are a LOT of speed bumps, so the RL VWR springs still gives enough clearance that they don't cause an issue.
I may swap out the full works if I go so far as Stage 3, but to be honest I'd only do that if I was going to turn her into a track car and have a different daily. Practicality and funds dictate when that will be...
VAG did say they were going to be working on a full APR 7.5R later this year (hopefully that will include a Stage 3+ turbo), so I'm hoping when she does eventually go back (again, funds depending) for stage 2 I'll get to have a go ;)
Great thanks fo the info Jason, presumably the springs are progressives. Have you got a link to them/who did the work please. Sorry I don't why my other account was used for previous reply (ShackFlyer)
Golf 7.5 or a Leon cupra good review.
I need to try a Cupra but I love the look of them
Yeah i love the look of the Leon lot of car for the money i might get the Leon FR 1.8 TSI DSG not sure yet.
Agent smith from the matrix voice over
I own this car have for 3 years got it stage 2 and gear box went told vw and they said would not replace as it was mapped I showed them this video to prove it was mapped before I bought car saved me nearly 7.5k ❤️👍
Who noticed the R32 in the background?
If you like this, check out channels like Living Life Fast and VRS Northampton. They’ve respectively featured and tuned lots of TFSI engined cars and taken them well over 500bhp.
Instead of spending money on a new car, why not make your current car better?
Why even lower these they are low enough stock
Woah!! Another loud shirt 😂😂😂😂
I have to keep my audience happy
JayEmm on Cars and blind!
JayEmm on Cars You love it.
Harry reckons the normal gti is a better r
As a regular, non modified car I suspect he may be right
JayEmm on Cars defo non-mod'd, as that would not make sense, it isn't apples to apples, then
Im a fast big hatch fan, they are a perfect 'jack of all trade cars' for us mortals that can't afford a daily and a weekender. Personally, I think golf is too big(fat) to still be a proper hot hatch, the R is a great beast, but it just looks like it could be mums golf to 99% of people. same as the Focus rs. A hot hatch should be small, cheapish, and look its part, be relatively quick and handle well.fiesta st and Corsa vxr for example, are hot hatches. A fast polo, I bet would sell like shit, given that would be truer to the philosophy to the mk1 gti.
my fave all-rounder is a quick estate. An RS6 tops the bill. for mere mortals, the poor man's solution is the petrol Vrs estate (£27k or £20k for 6month ex demo unit) with a bit of a tune. Also it has the DSG option, (7 speed iirc) which I think suits the car. Comfy long cruiser and fun when it needs to be, plus it will go the tip or take 5 and their luggage across Europe, with room for a dog or two. Superb sportsline estate, would fit the neighbours family in too.
My GTC lease is up later this year and the VRS petrol is top of my list. Though the Leon FR ST, I think handles a touch better. however, I don't like the looks as much.
Do yo watch harry garage? I bet you do, if not you're missing out.
Sorry for the long ramble.
I watch it on occasion, I do enjoy some of his videos but I don't watch it regularly
RWD in snow is great fun but not as much fun when you've been at work all day it takes 2 hours to get home then you have abandon it two miles from home and walk.
Never again
RIP RWD
Is there a Mk8 version of that shirt coming. It NEEDS an upgrade.
Classics don't need upgrades. It reminds me of Citroen DS era.
Very nice, but can we have some small 'fun to drive' car reviews please? Not uber hatches or sports cars, but something slightly more down to earth? Please? I'll even say nice things about your choice in shirts! 😉
Haha, I am always trying to keep a variety on the channel. You will see some lower end cheap car content soon - if nothing else there will be updated from my Subaru adventure
I won’t argue with your point that an AWD turbo-nutter hatch has a better ability to deal with snow than a BMW but I wouldn’t agree that an M135i is dangerous in wintry conditions.
I daily a 135i in Central Scotland, drive it like a nutter on B roads from time to time and take it up to Scottish ski centres on summer tyres and I have never once thought it was going to kill me. I have never got stuck in wintry conditions. The stability control is excellent in winter and I have the reassurance of knowing exactly where the power will go if I start to get into trouble.
I would also make the observation that, in winter, the only factors that limit the progress I can make across a road are stopping distance and cornering grip, both of which are no different whether you have AWD or RWD. Not enough traction is rarely an issue apart from a standing start which is only really relevant if you are someone who enjoys launch control from every set of traffic lights.
If I had a Golf R, I know I would love it, but for me RWD and a straight 6 make the M135/140 the best option.
I agree that an m135i is fine, but you'll see I mention the caveat with a poor or inexperienced driver it might not be
If they turned the traction control off then yes, death could occur!
Load of bull..you say it wouldn't try and kill you but then say if I get in trouble I know where the power will go. Thats called dangerous! Been in plenty and dangerous always comes to mind. But any car in snow Needs winter tyres.
She needs a Dacia stepway perfect family car.
Your shirt is lacking in a couple of areas 🤨.
You need to add excitement in your videos!
No direct comparison with a mk7 when it has an awesome Revo tune. Not much in it when both stock, similarly the differences when both have a Revo tune is basically the virtual dash
Fanny.Not got a clue..
Someone send in a Hyundai i30N!
I'd love to try one
I would hate to think what the insurance would be for a 20 year old on a Golf R...
Ive got a mk7.5R, I'm 19 and it costs me 900 a year fully comp with 2 years no claims :)
Zero Ninety Mine is 250 a month, full comprehensive, and I'm 23.
... I'm 33, and this costs me £140 (with points, and still have the smudge mark on my insurance because some friendly scrote broke into my old Scirocco GT and the police didn't catch them).
1246€ a year
If you can run a golf r with 500+ bhp on stock internals then my name is gertrude and i wear the same shirt as jay.
"Arthur" has built a 600+ bhp beast without changing anything at all in the block... look up 600bhp Golf R and you'll find it. If I remember correctly, new exhaust, new intercooler and new turbo, stock motor. I had a conversation with a tuner at SantaPod 3-4 months ago, and I was asking about the overall cost of getting forged internals, and his advice was; save the money and just buy a second motor if required, it'll cost less and the EA888 reliability is so good that it will do a huge amount before any issues arise.
Yep ok if like changing the engine regulary and got money to burn.(:-)
1066gaz
That's the point mate, it's not regularly. The block can run that sort of power reliably. It's a case of if it goes wrong rather than when. I know a couple of R owners who been running around 550bhp for quite some time with no problem.
Jason burn.
Sounds like they are as good as old cossie engines.
I will have to buy one if they are that good.
Gertrude off lol.
1066gaz check out some of the forums regularly see stage 3 owners on there
Frig off, Ricky.
Steering setup is no different vs mk7 & mk7.5. So it's very strange/odd you say there is "more feel" in the 7.5 steering. No changes were made from factory. Lowered suspension/anti roll bars won't effect this.
I believe the lack of DCC is what helps
I'm sure the haldex was tweaked on the 7.5 to respond quicker too. That's got to help. I can't stand my 7.5 R estate by the way. One of the most lifeless cars I've ever driven. Dull engine note, lifeless steering, DSG that doesn't allow full manual control and a 4WD system that does it's best to remove adjustability. Best thing about the car is the adaptive cruise control for traffic. Wish I'd leased an e Golf instead.
Sounds like someone farting into a drain pipe
with those low profile tyres and lowered clearance no, no it isn't.
Why does a daily has to have so much hp? 200hp with auto it's more than enough, everything else is just a waste of fuel. Things are different if you live in Germany
There isnt much difference (mostly asthetical) between the mk7 and the 7.5.
Most of the difference you feeling is coming from manual to a DSG and the modifications. They didnt make any 7.5 manuals so u cant rly compare apples to apples.
ps You mention it has Stage1 remap with +70hp with stock parts. Thats smth I highly advice against, the turbo is being bootlenecked and you sending extra heat and pressure throw the exhaust system that isnt set to cope with.
Even just a stage1 (usually gives u +20-35hp, so an extra 70hp its rly recommended) I cant stress enough that u need to install a larger downpipe to be able to push out all that extra pressure you are telling the turbo to spool.
Nice shirt. Do they make them for men?
Has this video degenerated to an episode of Marion and Geoff??
🤔Kind of pointless to compare an older model with no mods to a newer model with mods. Should've found someone with a stage 1 mods on the MK7 and then see if you felt any different about the car...but to each his/her own...✌🏿
Unfortunately I rarely have the luxury of choosing which cars come my way
Not the ultimate golf road car! No DCC.!!!!! Stage 1 spot on for the road mind..
It handles much better because it has no DCC
@@JayEmmOnCars - rubbish. had 2 Rs 7 without DCC, 7.5 with DCC. DCC superior every mode, every time. Especially on very wet or bumpy roads.
Handling =/= roadholding
Petorias are needed them wheels on the facelift are shocking
Pretty boring, it’s not telling me much about the difference between stock car
Dear Cletus,
I watch your videos for your shirts, your tonsorial tremendousness, and the state of your beard. In my opinion :-
Your shirt is simply stupendous.
It would appear you have recently visited the surgeon barber, and have product slapped over your noggin.
Your facial hair is something of a conundrum. You've shaved within living memory, but neglected to trim the pubes.
Therefore, in conclusion, you have certainly made an effort, but there is still considerable room for improvement.
If I was perfect, what would people be able to comment on?
Glad you enjoyed today's shirt/car combo?
Cletus, you're excessive modesty precludes perfection, just as your nonpareil assessments render my comments superfluous.
@ I'm afraid I can't advise you, you'll have to look in the mirror.🤕🤕🤕
2:51 Piss poor driving skills.
Long open corner, plenty of visibility. One could say 'efficient' driving.
Guys great content...... but dont let the young think it is safe to cut corners on country roads, been to many head on deaths with sporty little and big cars. Adjust your camera angle, help safety on our roads, dont cut a corner because you can, there might be some innocent 3 foot high rambler just on your line out.. Public roads are for the public with rules ie: dont cross the lines unless safe, and most times thats a guess.
The low camera angle is deliberate, it is there to enhance the sensation of speed. Also in most videos the camera is actually off to the side of the car, you might think I am driving in the middle of the road but I am not. On quite a few of our roads the line i take is necessary thanks to debris/potholes etc...
Obviously I have sight through the corner if crossing the white lines. Also, for what it's worth very few young people actually watch my videos. My audience is generally quite mature.
Biggest problem with the Golf R is that you see about 30 a day driven by 18 year olds financed up to the arsehole, middle aged women everything so just seems like a common car now
I agree. This was a point I raised in the first R review I did
great minds and all that
I beggar to say that some of those 30 a day are Rlines, gtd's etc and thats one of the reasons you buy one of these... You blend in.
@@lozz0dnb 20 years old and own my stage 1 7 R outright here. It may 'seem' like a common car to look at to the untrained but the subtle aggression is something I absolutely love. And honestly, that's part of the appeal, nobody bothers you and it leaves you to enjoy it for the beauty it is. Not everything is about showing off
Wow a stage 1. You certainly know your onions. I never said its not lairy enough so not sure what the showing off comments about all I said is they're too common for me personally id rather not have a car you see several of every day
Bellend
I watch a lot of your reviews, didn't like your reaction to that 12 year old who forced you to stop. Unnecessary to show that, be the bigger man and more responsible. Not cool. Rant over. I do like your content mostly.....
I would love one of these as my daily just the economy concerns me as I do close to 400 miles a week