'A Hope in Hell' Fight Scene | The Sandman
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Based on the beloved award-winning DC comic series written by Neil Gaiman (American Gods, Coraline), THE SANDMAN is a rich, character-driven blend of myth and dark fantasy woven together over the course of ten epic chapters following Dream’s many adventures (plus a bonus episode featuring two fan-favorite stories). When THE SANDMAN, a.k.a. Dream (Tom Sturridge, Sweetbitter, Velvet Buzzsaw) - the powerful cosmic being who controls all our dreams - is unexpectedly captured and held prisoner for over a century, he must journey across different worlds and timelines to fix the chaos his absence has caused.
Developed and executive produced by Gaiman, showrunner Allan Heinberg (Wonder Woman, Grey’s Anatomy), and David S. Goyer (The Dark Knight trilogy, Man of Steel), THE SANDMAN is produced by Warner Bros. Television. The series also stars Boyd Holbrook (Narcos, In the Shadow of the Moon), Patton Oswalt (The Goldbergs, A.P. Bio), Vivienne Acheampong (The Witches).
"What kills hope?"
"Iam a minimum wage job, hope crushing, debt unfulfilling.
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Hilarious 😂
“Soul crushing, happiness killing, never ending”
It's lit bro😂
Damn
What power does Hell have over the damned, if they cannot dream of Heaven?
One of the best Wham lines that doubles as a subtle The Reason You Suck
God I loved this line so much because it's so true. How can you make someone suffer if you don't hold out the dream (and therefore HOPE) of something better over them?
Dead Boy Detectives actually has a character that perfectly encompasses why this works because you can actually earn your way out of Hell
Absolutely butchered in the show.
The Ruler of Hell was it's first prisoner.
"I am a universe, all things encompassing, all life embracing" that line hits me every time
And then Lucifer just casually pulls out the thing Darkseid built his entire existence seeking for 😂
Well, Darkseid is nowhere close to Lucifer's level.
The way he said it too
Gives me chills every time
Superb voice acting
Oh really now? 😢 It hits yiu eVErY time? Boo how amazing lol all oh you in the comments are so cringe and corny also adults smh
@@dragosiacob4845 you know whats cringe,
Heckling strangers on the Internet because they find meaning outside of "Adult" responsibility. Get a life bro
Reminder: This series has some DC cosmology. Hope is an element of light. And Anti-life is the black void of all light.
Lol no
@@highlandusYes, it's DC
I love how their fight is a literal fight using concepts. Especially Dream using concepts to fight concepts when he himself is a concept.
But remember they also said its a game of wit so angling Lucifer to become the exact opposite of hope shakes their very foundation and hurts their resolve and their purpose of getting out of hell.
That and hope is intangible, whereas the other methods used were physical.
Because you have no taste
Yeah, but it’s not like you could have a second fight using the same game. If you already know what the result will be. This isn’t a game of chess. This is literally just one single ending every single time.
@@DragonMasta99 SO WHO EVER GETS TO HOPE FIRST xD
Fun fact: As Lucifer is describing himself what he is. A wolf, A snake, a pestilence of life, a nova of cremation, the beast of judgement: anti - life darkness at the end of time.
Quite the opposite, that last line by dream was actually Lucifer. The "light bringer" was meant to represent hope and for Lucifer to defeat hope would be for him to admit defeat. So she just refuses to continue playing all together.
@@jonedavila5954 Give him his Helmet!
I think it’s more like lucifer hopes to escape gods prison, so to accept that hope is beatable means to resign to his/her fate.
It works on many levels, it is also the plot of Overture tbh
@@MegaAshfirethat's the true answer
I love how much in abject denial Lucifer is about their situation. They're constantly and rather childishly dealing in absolutes when they know the universe doesn't run on them.
This scene was mind blowing with the scale of how quickly they escalated it to best the other. Dream certainly knew he would most likely barely escape with his life, if he didn’t lead Satan on to stick with the focus of ‘force’ as their move, before jumping to the theoretical meaning of existence. Well played
I have never seen a better representation of gods fighting. So much of media depicts gods with flashy moves, and brawling power. But what is physical confrontation? Just an exchange of energy between matter. gods can be depicted as so much more than that. And that is why i love this scene. It shows that they can become.
"What kills hope?"
"I am the microsoft blue screen of death: term paper consuming, job presentation losing, backup data corrupting..."
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Hope for a better day
"True hope is swift and flies with swallow wings. Of Kings it makes Gods and meaner creatures Kings." - Shakespeare.
my favorite comment on hope comes from the comic fables. " never forget, hope fights for both sides."
Funny he said Hope, Abandon all hope he who enter Here.
and Hope is the one thing that anyone has, Hope is the one thing that will save your life
"Tell me Lucifer Morningstar, what power would Hell have if one couldn't dream of heaven"
Coldest "back off" moment I have heard in a minute
hell, the hopelessness at the end of life, the enteral prison of suffering, the one place hope can never touch, and I think at some level the Lightbringer knows that but would never admit to it, less despair takes them.
That's not quite true, though, is it? After all, Nada had hope that her Kai'ckul would rescue her. And, per her own words, that hope remained unabated after Dream's passing. Do you believe she is alone?
Hope can be beaten with despair but if lucifer decided to use that that's means he agreed he will never beat God and never obtained heaven So, magnificent
What's funny is that in a few years or decades time from this scene, lucifer leaves hell just completely says fuck it all
@@wintertrooper7918DETECTIVE
Hope is sometimes just a consolation we offer ourselves
I actually preferred the graphic novel version...Dream is surrounded by the angry minions of hell.
He utters the line about dreams in hell..
And the crowd immediately backs away and allows him safe passage
That's true, but the plaza looks like vatican City. Quite the irony
[Devil Went Down to Georgia plays in the distance]
Hope he brought his fiddle of gold
Quite the opposite.
Hope came down to hell.
even in the darkest days of our lives we still hope for tomorrow why you think is that
Not suicidal guyz
I am a failure, squashing all hope. - I am the dot at the end of the sentence. - I am the ignorance, that forgets the dot - I am the truth, that perserveres the ignorance - I am the observer, who missess the truth etc, etc, etc - then I am etc
This was a terrific scene. 💙 Gaiman. Bring it back please!
"What kills hope?"
"I am Jack's inflamed sense of rejection."
"...damn."
I wish I wrote this scene.
So beautifully poetic and perfect! ❤
Kudos to the writer who wrote this scene ❤
Kudos to Neil Gaiman. Is almost 1:1 from the comics.
Hope = S (symbol of House of El)🙂👍Unbeatable!!
Hope fits Dream so well, as what is hope but a dream for something better?
This was a powerful scene
"Qual poder o inferno teria se aqueles que estão aqui presos não pudessem sonhar com o céu?"
If this were released more recently, I'd be excited at maybe getting a season 2. Oh well, still an awesome scene.
As a stand-in for hope, he could have said: "I am fuckit - b/c we're doin' it anyway"... LOL.....
Why there wasn’t another season of this Gem? 💎
Love it! ❤️
I am dispair as i cast the light in which hope dies and withers away lmao
This reminds me of kids playing +1 game with numbers.
as lucifer all you gotta do is replace hope with certainty and make it good certainty
The key words you all seem to miss are "I am" .
Everyone is saying this fight scene is golden, but while I have not seen the show, i dont know why. It just looked like when two toddlers play some game and keep one upping each other. "I used fire blast!" "Well i am fireblast proof and use black hole!" "Well i am black hole proof, and use worm hole!"
Pretty damn awesome that they got Gwendoline Christie to play Lucifer. We've had two great actors (Tom Ellis) portraying the same character (albeit elsewhere versions).
Dc cosmology runs deep in this seen. When i think of hope i think of Superman
I thought he was going to say, "I'm a tardigrade" The little fuckers survive everything.
It's a bit dumb if you think about it. Of nothing beats hope, just go straight to tht and use it as your opening move no?
I'm wolverine, Jean Simping, third wheeling 5 feet 3 inches shorting
This was sl weiiirdd . First watching it , am like ' come on dream ! Put them hands up '
I always wonder why in these types of “escalating” battles the guy doesn’t just skip to the most powerful tool/spell/enchantment/card,etc… that he has in his arsenal 😂
What's stronger than hope? ... Despair
No. Hope is the one thing in the universe that gives people the courage to keep on going knowing that there’s always a light at the end of the tunnel even through despair
Imagine if allll the humans only dream of heaven. I'm thinking it could make hell a forgotten realm.
that would be lovely. if only humans would give each other love instrad of hatresness, there would be no Hell. humans forgot about that powerful force which cannot be expained with mathematical analysis, but we all felt this force which Love ❤
Its better than the comic imo. In the comic dream faces the demon that holds the helm rather than Lucifer. Plus it shows them in a small club since they are battling each other with words. A bit cheesy and it lacks the punch at the end and becomes a little comical.
The exchange at the end? 1 for 1 perfect of what the comic did exactly. Both powerful. Both amazing
Obviously they never met the Philippine Government. Certianly kills all hope.
she should have said time, in time all hope is gone
Not the point. The reason he used Hope is because Luficer cannot counter it. They are Lightbringer, or Bringer or Light, which means Bringer of Hope.
Hope is part of their primordial nature, they themselves have hope to rise above their current station.
If they destroy/counter hope, it is a self inflicted wound. It would be similar to if Lucifer used “I am a dream”. In their context and Dream had to destroy/counter the concept of dreaming, it’d also be a self inflicted blow. Luficer is 100% much stronger especially in hell but is basically cornered by a trick, which is why they repeat the word “Hope” with such anger at the irony of it being used against them.
You can see through me everyday but I break easily what am I
A window
No shattered dreams
"I am...no hope"
"Death of Hope" it seem they never heard of it.
Some under rated use of dcu cosmology all over this series.
Knew nothing about this show going into it v pleasantly surprised though I see loads saying its not accurate to the source material, not my dream etc. Still all works IMO this was a standout scene
which is all moot when you consider the guy who created the comics also had a VERY heavy hand in the creation of this show. From the people cast in their respective roles, to certain scenes such as this one written specifically by Gaiman himself. People just like to piss and moan about everything on the internet.
Dream: Greetings Lucifer, and to you Mazikeen of the Lillim.
Lucifer: So Dream, tell me. What is it that you desire?
Dream: Sorry, but I think I'm in the wrong hell.
Mazikeen: You meant club right? You're in the wrong club.
I like this show, I wish they would put more episodes on! It says that they are coming but it has said that for over a year now!!
"I am hope"
Lucy said anti-life just so bro can say IM HOPE MF WHAT WILL YOU DO NOW 👁️
I try to imagine Lucifer using Tom Ellis' voice instead.
ye, missed opportunity
I couldn't finish this series......after watching this I am not disappointed.
if he says depression, figth is over
there are new type of anti-depressants which work excellent especially combined with psychotherapy.
There is no hope in hell, none whatsoever.
Why so? One could argue that letting beings in hell hope for better while being forever denied it is the exact sort of torturous punishment that Hell would exact.
This is the only resson i saw this series.this should in the million views naaah dont worry someone falling or doing stuuuuuuuuuuuupid shit will beat this sooooo intellectual battle from smart minds!!!!!! Wow there might be another clips of this thats in the millions.
Some say she was feeling hopeless
Only God can kill hope, so Lucifer cannot say, "I am God."
No God can kill hope
Honestly, while God and Lucifer are more conventionally powerful than the Endless, even they can't destroy them entirely. God had a 'Dream' and a 'Desire' to create the universe, which led to 'Death', 'Destiny', and 'Destruction'. And Destruction will lead to 'Despair'.
lucifer, cannot kill hope because, killing hope is a hope in itself, therefore its a self afflicting move it cannot do. the last sentence in the video explains, when said if dream has any power in hell
How can that be? When Hope is one third of God?
@@isaac15752 What kills hope? Answer is Determination. Determination in being firm in your purpose and resoluteness regardless of the outcome. Determination erases the reason to even have hope. When you have that you dont need hope. Not needing something means it is nothing. You know what the worst thing in Pandora's box was? It wasn't the sorrows, destruction, wars, or plagues. It was hope itself. Hope's a gamble, Hope lacks certainty, Hope drive people to madness, because you gave up. You have nothing else, no way to fight, or lean on and so hope is the cruelest one of all.
We can look in our history and it was determination that made the outcomes. Be it good or bad. Destroying the others person's hope.
- I am Wanda
- I am …
- How did you say this?
- What do you mean? With my mouth!
- What mouth?
The end
What kills Hope? Only when it is the end of the universe, of time and space. Lucifer already defeated Dream with Anti-life if you think about it. Anti-life is the end of everything, it is designed to kill all creation and that includes heaven, hell and hope. A dying person can hope all he wants, but there is no hope for the dying. Only non-existence. So Dream couldn't have used Hope in this battle. He is supposed to be defeated already.
He could have just ended it with I am a diseased tick as well for the dire wolf.
sorry but the first move , wolfs do not hunt alone so hunter nice you shoot one now the pack is pissed and not only is a mounted hunter suggesting you are alone , but your horse is both the incentive of a self delivered meal ,but you also become aggressive competition for the territory sooo.. , sure a wolf wounded ,but its not the wolf thats dead.. it slipped away as the pack circled you until your horse keeled over from exhaustion , and you die to jaws at your neck trying to keep track of them all at once ,ohh.. and thats true it was a DIRE wolf , those bastards much like smilodons where not small so consider modern era wolfs is chunky ..think more something HORSE SIZED with fangs , if going to make a silly ''we duel like with magic summoning cards!'' at least make the creatures have their proper repertoire
I love this scene and this game but what's funny is how every game can just start with "Hope" and they automatically win 😂
This makes me wonder if Darkseid is doomed to fail. According to the Endless, Antilife can be surpassed by hope
Did it occur to either of them to say, "I am... rubber. And you are... glue."?
Pointless fight. As it will allways end with hope
I am the bird of Hermes…. Oh shit sorry guys…
Reality kills the hope
Movie name ?
I am your father.
Noooooooooooooo...
What can survive the anti-life? The anti-anti- life
I played this with my daughter. She’s five.
What was Brianne of Tarth doing in hell
You have a disadvantage going first.
Il Giuoco delle Perle di Vetro -
She could have said "Despair"
No because Morpheus’s sister is death herself
Did you say anti-life
- Darkseid
Universe ain't life loving, though. In fact almost entire universe is hostile to life, except a pale blue dot.
"I am hope "
"I am voting for Joe Biden"
Despair?
That last move was actually like this: somewhere in the mathematical plane, the devilishly difficult Partial Differential Equation said to the simple Quadratic Equation: tell us, why should you live? You have no power here in this calculus domain!
And the quadratic said: you say I have no power in calculus and perhaps you speak truly. But tell me, o PDE, if there is no quadratic equation, will the physical realm have ellipses and parabolas? And will PDEs themselves exist then?
And PDE could only frown...
Merlin & Madam Mim
I do not care about "Hope." I follow LOVE and LOVE only wherever it goes. I am a child from the 5th dimension outside of all of this. I have come to help the humans or there will be no humans left in the future. I fear NOTHING. Kill me now and set me free and my spirit will thank you. Plus, I can get more done that way. The illusions of this world are meaningless to me. I cannot think, therefore I am not. Yet, I exist. Depression is only anger without the enthusiasm. Money is only cotton fiber and ink. I see things for what they are, not for what they "appear" to be.
LOVE ❤
@@sintezaproteina Thank you. Love, kindness, joy, and blessings to you also.
@@shanemitchell477 🤗❤️
@@sintezaproteina Thank you again Ms/Mrs beautiful.
one thing that i can't accept was they start with animal then suddenly Death use the bacterium.. I'm like yo what the h u pick out of the norm..
Escalation
Went full cultivation there. Attack with a black hole and counter with a galexay. Ugh.
no game no life plays this game aswell
Hope
Hope can be beaten with reality lol
I am dissapointmen 😃🫶 there it is.. i beat hope ❤
One of the coolest battles I’ve ever seen between deities. How else would they fight but on an unimaginable scale in the metaphysical and physical etc
U should see the Jibril fight in the library in no game no life
Wtf? You gotta be kidding this is the gayest shit ever
Technically not deities… but still cool. If I remember correctly the comic was way different.
It's a turn based rpg😂
Book battle was WAY better , worth checking out .
Many viewers in the comments missed the major point as to why Lucifer cannot kill hope. That is because Lucifer themself HOPE to get out of hell. If they kill hope, then they kill their DREAM of getting out of hell. It's the perfect counter to anything Lucifer could throw at Dream because it would be a massive self-inflicted wound.
There's another reason as well.
In the DC Comics - which The Sandman is a part of - Lucifer is also described as the Lightbringer, which is another way to say "the bringer of hope."
Lucifer can't kill hope because they were meant to bring it to all living beings - hope is just a part of their primordial nature.
So Lucifer would not only have to destory their own dreams, but also a part of themself.
it's not just a battle of concepts that kill each other its a battle of wits and one angle is making them use a concept they are opposed to that whittles down their resolve and thus quit the game thus losing.
@JohnnyStorm1988check the credits of the series. Check who wrote it.
@@TheCursedCat1927reminds me of that tune Lucifer son of the morning I'm gonna chase your dreams away.
Lmao if you would’ve read Sandman then you would know the game was between Dream and Choronzon not Lucifer, Lucifer doesn’t “hope” to leave hell, he abandoned his thrown and is walking on earth in the comic, Dream is terrified of Lucifer
This felt like two kids saying bigger and bigger numbers till one goes “infinity” and then the other goes “infinity +1”
They're basically gods. Sure they can one-up each other but they experience everything... when Lucifer said he was a nova, Dream literally felt a star exploding in his face....
What stop them from throwing whatever is anti-life at the beginning. Do dream would insta win if he said hope?
I think its a stupid way of fighting unless you assume that there are tons of rules behind that are beyond human understanding.
@@ecchiRhino99 hope wouldn't beat a direwolf
@ecchiRhino99 If Lucifer starts with anti life, then Dream can just continue with the Univers, all live embracing and then beating Lucifer on move 1.
And Hope can't defeat a wolf.
There's more depth that it appears when you think of it, the only rule being you probably can't repeat something already said, so you need to be careful when to use some concept. Start with death, reply with life and you win since you used death already.
Infinity + 1 isn't actually bigger than Infinity