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TALARIA STING & SUR RON SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Is the Talaria Sting the Sur Ron 2.0? We break these titans down and put them head to head.I was so shocked at how how quality the Talaria Sting is. I truly believe it's the best option for taller riders like myself. The Sur Ron needs a lot of work to fit a bigger rider while the Talaria has the perfect dimensions and larger seat. Drop any questions you may have in the comment section.
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This is EXACTLY what I needed to see to make up my mind! Going with the Talaria!!! THANK YOU!!!
Glad it was helpful!
You won’t regret it
@@dwaynebrown.5728 definitely won’t!
Surron gang
@@-praise-9204 😂
I kept hearing that the Talaria was bigger than the Surron, but I could never tell in the videos, except in this one. Wow, they weren't kidding!
Yeah, it’s significant.
Went with the Talaria and I couldn't be happier with my choice.
Awesome! They’re both great bikes and can’t complain!
Cheers mate will be 100% going with the Talaria
Great choice! Let me know what you think!
Cool vid! I chose the Talaria, and you can fit some huge tires on it:)
Thanks man! Huge fan of your videos! The Talaria just seems like a better buy.
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I'm not a very big guy but talaria sounds like the winner
If you’re on the smaller side you might be more comfortable on the Sur Ron.
Love Talaria sting but can't go wrong with either one 👍😎
Absolutely! They’re both great bikes!
THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO! I LOVE MY SUR RON BUT NOW I’M CONTEMPLATING BUYING A TALARIA!
You’re welcome! Get it!
Great info. Thanks man. Merry Christmas!
I appreciate it. Thank you. Merry Christmas!
About 800km on my Talaria and quite happy with. Only issue with a twisted peg support but I believe it goes the same with Sur Rons anyway.
Glad you’re happy with it! Yeah, I think that’s an issue on both bikes.
Do you also own a Sur Ron?
Grutshift sells a talaria peg brace support
@@MotoAlias thanks for this!
Great video very informative Thank you!
You’re very welcome! I appreciate it.
Wow Thanks I'm going with the Talaria now
Awesome! Glad my video helped you out!
@@easyheimer Yes big time I have a Sondors MXS for 2 years thinking and you just really helped me I'm wonder if the CHi battery works for the Talaria
@@kid45620 that’s awesome. So chi is currently developing different batteries for the Talaria Sting but nothing is available at the moment. It’s also a different connector for the Talaria than the Sur Ron.
@@easyheimer Cool Thank you
@@kid45620 you’re welcome!
Good enough for me, thanks man
You’re welcome!
Im going for the Surron, im a shorter guy so it seems to fit me more. :)
There you go! They are both GREAT bikes and I’ll agree, if you’re on the shorter side the Sur Ron will be perfect for you.
im 5' 8" and about 190 - any thoughts on what would fiot me better?
, also would be awesome to fit in a minivan....thx
@@easyheimer
Surron is smaller. Good choice.
Great Vid! You REALLY got my attention with your comment about being a bigger rider @6'2" 260 lbs, I thought I read that the Sting maxed out @ 220 lbs. You have given me hope, I am 6'4", 270 lbs. Did you make any changes to the suspension, like a stiffer rear spring? Thanks!
I’m glad it helped you out. It claims to only support riders up to 220lbs but the frames are much more rebuts than let’s say a SUPER73 and that will support a rider over 300lbs so I think that rating is way off. There are tons of heavier riders out there on Sur Ron’s and Talarias.
I did not make any changes to the suspension and really haven’t needed to. I may down the line but it’s not critical.
Maybe its just me but the fork angle seem to be different between the two. The Talaria looks like it has more angle
You are correct. It’s slightly different.
Good content man!!
Thanks man! I appreciate it!
Nice video, love my talaria
Thank you Sarah! Isn’t it such an awesome bike?
for the Talaria what is the difference between fast acefork and DNM fork
Fast Ace is a much better fork.
Interesting
Thank you.
Great information video! Thanks. Any idea when the pedal kit for the Talaria will be available?
Thank you! Glad you found it useful. The pedal kit is currently available for preorder.
www.kaniwaba.com/product-page/pedal-kit-v3-0-for-talaria-sting
Good review thank you buddy
Thank you.
Tit for tat, the Sting should be a better bike, but I don't like it. I own both. My biggest beefs with the Talaria: 1. The throttle control at slow speeds is a deal breaker for me. It's jumpy and dangerous...even in Eco it feels jumpy to me. The Sur Ron has a much more useful throttle response curve for me. I find it way easier to keep my wheelies up and control my jumps at the track. 2. The seating position is hard on my back. It angles downward too much and it sits higher than the Sur Ron so whatever spacers or down stem you use, the bars are going to be 2 inches lower than on the Sur Ron (the flip side is the Talaria sits 2 inches off the ground, but that matters less to me). I guess the sting is more comfortable if you like hunching? That's not for me though. I like to ride more upright. I'm 5"10 for what it's worth. 3. The weight of the bike is something you feel a lot on trail riding. Every so often I encounter a tough situation that I can't clear while riding. I have to get off the bike and carry it over something. Doing this with the Talaria is much harder. I'm only 150lbs and not a beast of a man though. Also, These are mountain bike shocks. Mountain bike brakes. Adding another 20 lbs to these already strained parts is probably also bad. I would guess more fork failures on average. Faster brakes fading on average. 4. I'm not crazy about how the battery jostles around. I think the tray is going to brake if I don't strap it down.
The pros. The Body of the Talaria is wider and feels great between your legs. The back swing arm can take a larger tire which is a big deal in the long run with an upgrade. It sits higher off the ground. It is quiet. I do like the ability to switch regen braking on the fly, and mode 4 is badass and extreme regen so that might help with the brakes fading faster. The Sting does look cooler imo and more like a motorcycle.
At the end of the day, I find the Sur Ron easier on my body, easier to lift into a car or on the trail, and it's a more fun and nimble to ride. On a checklist, the Sting blows the Sur Ron away, but I don't ride a check list.
Wow, thanks for the detailed comment! You make a lot of great points. I hear what you’re saying about the throttle because a buddy has one and his wasn’t flashed like mine was. EBikeZilla flashed all their bikes going out so the throttle control is a LOT more smooth. I’m 6’2 and I love the seating positing more on the Talaria. I actually don’t feel too hunched over and there’s a lot more room for me to move around and in general. I just feel more comfortable on the bike.
As far as the weight goes, I definitely hear what you’re saying since I do have a bike rack and getting the Sur Ron on it is a breeze but the Talaria is almost unmanageable by myself.
@@easyheimer interesting. I keep bringing up that ebikezilla thing with the people I bought it from and they shrug their shoulders and say it's bullshit. I don't know who to believe at this point.
Also interesting on the seating position. Given that the average American man is 5.93 in, and I'm 5'10, maybe my take on that is a little bit more useful for the average user. Only 15% of the population is above 6 ft
@@FreeMissions absolutely.
@@easyheimer So just talked to the guys I bought it from Today, and they said the newest batch they got in have better throttle control. They claim they will look into flashing my controller. If that can be improved, I might just keep this bike.
@@FreeMissions that’s awesome man! Hopefully you can get that throttle flashed to where it’s supposed to be.
Who did you buy it from?
Nice vid brotha
Thanks bro! I appreciate it!
SQUIRREL! did anyone else catch the lil dude at the very end? 😂
LMAO! I didn’t even catch that! Good eye!
Nice vid bro 💪🏽💪🏽 keep it up and show ur face lol 😂
Thanks bro! Not a huge fan of showing my face. Maybe soon!
Which would better for me?
I’m 5ft 9 147 lbs ???
I’d go Surron.
what info is out there on street kits for the talaria in the usa? really would love to use this as a secondary city commuter vehicle/ fun haver but not sure if it need to be registered as a moped or if a pedal kit is needed and what the implications are for those scenarios. I know it probably depends on my state so MA if it helps
I’m in CT and there are pedal kits out there from Kaniwaba.
I'm 5'7 would I be able to stand flat footed on the Talaria?
I don’t think you’d be able to.
Do they have same speed ?
Acceleration and top end speed ??
Yes, same top speed. Talaria has more torque off the line but loses it on the low end. Surron is the opposite.
Is the wheelbase the same as the Sur Ron? I'm 6ft, 31" inseam. Is the Talaria a better fit?
The wheelbase is slightly different on the talaria. For your size I’d definitely recommend the Talaria.
I've traded in my Sur Ron for the 22 sting and I'm really happy with it so far
Awesome! What are some of the differences you notice and which ones do you like the most?
@@easyheimer the fit and finish and overall quality is better on the sting, and it feels like a premium product maybe the little extra weight helps out here but the extra power makes up for it. The only thing I can think of that was better on the Sur Ron for me was the front end felt lighter and it was so easy to wheelie, the sting needs a bit more effort to get the front up but once you get the balance point there's not much between them. I've been explaining the difference between the two bikes to people that have asked me by saying the Sur Ron feels like an upgraded MTB compared to the sting which feels like a lightweight dirt bike
@@bevbiltgarage9791 I agree 100% as it does have a more premium feel to it. That 6000w (1000w difference) in power from the Sur Ron’s 5000w definitely makes up for the extra weight. I also feel a bit safer on it being a bigger guy.
What do you think of the gear box vs the primary belt? What’s your thoughts on the required oil changes?
@@easyheimer coming from gas powered dirt bikes the gearbox and oil changes are details that show the development work that has gone into the bike, using proven reliable durable components also adds to the premium quality product. Personally I like the idea of changing the oil because this makes me feel like part of the process and being responsible for the condition of the powertrain. Although I have to admit I never had a problem with the belt drive on my Sur Ron X, I just feel more confident in a mechanical drive but it might just be me
@@bevbiltgarage9791 I actually didn’t even think of it that way. I also don’t mind the oil changes if it means it’ll prolong the life of the bike. As someone that also comes from gas bikes I like the fact that the gearbox is sealed so nothing can get in there unlike the belt.
Love the Surron but Talaria got more juice !
Talaria definitely has more juice! Both the battery and the power it outputs (6000w).
Tilaria !
Hell yeah!
Hey easy! I can’t find the length difference between the stock sur ron and stock talaria. Would you happen to know? I saw someone say they could fit their sur ron in their Honda Element and I was hoping to do the same if I buy the talaria.
Sur Ron: 736 × 30.7 × 40 9 in
Talaria: 72 8 × 30 3 × 42 3 in
So if the Sur Ron will fit in an Element so will the Talaria!
@@easyheimer Wow! Thanks for the quick response! Greatly appreciated!
@@FreemanLaFleur you’re very welcome!
Nice video! We have almost the same physical constitution, so your opinion is very usefull for me! Did you have any problems with bending pegmounts?
Glad it was useful! I did not have any issues with bending peg mounts. Is this a common issue?
@@easyheimer thanks for your answer! I heard that this is a common issue on the Sur Ron if you jump and don't be a featherweight. There is a support bracket for the Sur Ron and Gritshift offers one for the Sting.
@@Jitkoa1 yeah I mean there’s always a possibility. Just order the support when you order the bike.
Do you own a Sur Ron or is this your first dirtebike?
@@easyheimer I ordered a Talaria Sting and hope it will arrive soon. Unfortunately there are no Gritshift parts available in Europa and I would have to pay a lot for shipping!!
@@Jitkoa1 you’re going to love it. Hopefully they’ll have some parts out there for you soon.
i'm short 5''2, would i be able to ride both or just the surron? or should i go childs size LMAO, legit question tho.
The Sur Ron still may be a little short for you but I’d give it a shot. The Talaria would definitely be too big.
So if it came down to one what would it be.....please help
I’d personally go with the Talaria unless you’re a shorter rider. How tall are you?
6-2
@@SurRonnie in that case I’d go with the Talaria. It’s going to be more comfortable out of the box for you. How much do you weigh?
Great…..Talaria it is!
It’s an excellent bike!
I’m 6’1” and 250.. almost same weight and height. I sat on a Surron haven’t seen a talaria in person yet but you recommend the Tularia all the way?
For your height and weight I’d go with the Talaria.
@@easyheimer ok cool. Thank you for the quick reply!
@@easyheimer one more question.. there’s the fast ace front fork and the stock. Same price. Which one is better
@@bigalrc you’re welcome!
@@bigalrc I’d personally go with the Talaria Factory Fork.
Have you heard anything about the Talaria made fork?
I have heard about it and will be getting it to test. Sounds like it’s a great fork.
I love to know what you think of it.
I talked to ebikezilla and they said the unlike the Fastace the Talaria will have a dampening control
@@edk9576 that’s awesome. I like the DNM out of them all.
I'm 5'8, would the Sur Ron be more comfortable or would the Talaria be okay?
Personally, at your height I’d go with the Sur Ron.
Go with the sur ron if your main concern is size. Go with Talaria for all the other reasons. By the way I'm only 2" taller than you and the Talaria would fit you just fine.
@@eucme9716 great advice!
You’re better off trying to tap into the speed force instead
@@ripp3rjak934 speed force?
Just looking at the thumbnail. I wish I had the Talaria instead. The geometry is more aggressive and the stance all together looks a lot better to me. Oh well
Yeah man. It’s a mean looking bike. Nothing stopping you from buying one in the near future! Hoping you can pick one up.
@@easyheimer just have too much invested in the sur ron by now.... including 70ah battery 🤷🏽♂️ if I get another bike it's gonna be the electricmotion with clutch.
@@malaihiboi I hear ya man! The Sur Ron is still an EXCELLENT bike. I wouldn’t regret your decision.
Can you sit 2 people on the talaria?
Yes you can. The seat is long enough.
@@easyheimer thanks! Do you know if I can have pedal kit and rear pegs installed? Gotta look into a little more but have a similar setup on my Ariel rider and often ride with 2 people
@@jsmmao yes, Kaniwaba released a pedal kit for the Talaria Sting.
What is the max speed on the talaria?
Display shows 47mph as my top speed. Not sure how far off that is. I’ll have to do a GPS run and compare.
@@easyheimer is that faster than the surron? Does adjusting the gear ratio help top speed?
@@somebody22222 it’s the same stop speed. The Talaria has much more lower end torque than the Sur Ron.
Don't you think price is important?
Absolutely! But the issue is it’s constantly changing with inflation which is why I didn’t include it. I apologize. I’ll probably add that in the description.
@@easyheimer Speed?
@@tomdangelo4060 they’re both the same as far as top speed goes.
@@easyheimer what might that be? Are you messing with me?
@@tomdangelo4060 definitely not messing with you. Top speed on both bikes is around 47mph. That’s what it says on the Speedo but GPS real world speed might differ a couple mph.
So what you're telling me is two guys that used to work for surron started a million-dollar company to go into competition against Surron sounds like a fairytale to me surron owns both companies they are in competition with themselves that way they make all the money that sounds a little more Legit To Me all the guys that own surrons are going to want the new coolest thing plus new customers what happens they sell more bikes that works a lot better than a new model and everybody will be fussing over which one's better than the other one and what happens they sell more bikes
If you don’t believe me a quick google search will fix that. They are NOT in competition with themselves. That doesn’t make any sense. Two different companies buddy.
You are a sales man , if only you could get me financed, you would be owed a commission
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Im an albino Ethiopian pygmy do my toes have to touch the pegs ??? Nah
Huh?