Lift 33 80# 28 dl 293 with a 450 grain arrow it’s hitting hard it a really aggressive bow that with the 85% let off moss with the 80% 297 but the strings are stretching some
I finally found a left handed 33 in stock and was able to shoot it a bit. I decided to pick it up, spend some time with it, and wanted to report out my real world findings. To be honest, I was very skeptical about this bow when I first saw the release of it. When I first inspected one in person, my skepticism grew. You can literally grab the cam and bend it around in all directions (of course with the bow at brace) as the limbs are so skinny they just flex like crazy. I was worried about that from a durability standpoint. I was also worried about the cams being very, very skeletonized. They seem like they would be easy to bend, etc. Those were some initial observations before I got to shoot one. I got to shoot one and my first reaction was 1) the draw cycle is very linear, just stiff 2) there is no valley (even at 85%) 3) the vibe/shock after the shot is more than the Phase 4 and 4) the riser length adds to stability significantly 5) something different in the grip where your thumb fits is improved. I shot it with both C and D draw length mods and landed on taking it home with the C mod. I bought the bow and took it home (we do our own set up and tuning at home)...... Set up was easy. With a center shot rest we had a perfect bullet hole with ZERO top hat changes or any other changes. The Match strings are an improvement over the Zebra, not sure how much of an improvement but they are better. They are thinner and they did settle very quickly and my peep locked in. So I just started shooting it for a few days. The bow has a very clean shot cycle, very clean release. With it all set up, the vibe/shock was mostly gone. I got used to the draw cycle being stiff. I never did like the lack of a valley. My style of shooting my hinge is to relax/elongate the palm of my hand and that style does not work well with a bow with no valley. As I shot it, I realized the C mod was making me feel a bit long. I was not stable at full draw and could feel being a bit overextended. My shop still had the D mods, so I switched to them and now I was too short, feeling scrunched up. When I am scrunched up, I have hand torque. For me, having the draw length perfect is a huge issue, as I finally found out how well I shoot when my draw length is spot on. It matters hugely! So, sadly, I am caught between a D and C on this new Mathews cam and not comfortable at either. Note on the previous Mathews cam the D mod worked well for me). Yes, could I twist strings and/or remove the grip and/or fiddle with D loop length or even my release neck length (different releases) - yes I could do all of that to try and get the Lift 33 to fit my draw length. Since I have other bows I shoot well, I did not want to put that level of effort into the Lift, so I sold it/traded it. As long as Mathews runs this newest cam with the 1/2" draw length limits, I am probably out of luck with Mathews. Conclusion, while I can't speak to the long term durability of the bow/cams, if your draw length fits one of the draw mods and if you are OK with no valley, this bow could be a great choice for you. Thank you.
I ordered a Lift just because I think it looks too knarly not to. That said, from everything I've seen, this bow is slower than my Traverse. So are most of the new bows over the last 3 or 4 years.
@@straight6archery53 thank you boss! I should get in to try then!! Some ppl are saying the valley is awful on the Lift and it comes with a stiffer draw. Is lighter and faster. The lift is no doubt a cooler bow than the Phase 4. My street cred on social media will for sure get lifted.
The truth is the 29 is way bigger than any 33 inch bow...not good if you want a true small bow for tree stands or blind..the 33 is 8 inches longer than normal 32 or 33 inch bows...just massive! All new bows are quiet, stable and have so low vibration that it is a non issue today. It just matters what size will work for you..and how deep your pockets are. Personally I like the bow but will not get one due to size, cost of bow, cost of accessories and lack of adjustments and fine tuning..but Id take it if given to me.
Huh? The Lift 33 is 33” axle to axle. Same exact length anyone else’s 33” bow.. 33” is 33” 👍🏼 Now the riser lengths may be different but that doesn’t change the overall length of the bow…
That is the Axcel landslyde head with the Mathews bridgelock bar attachment in this video. It allows us to keep the sight closer to the riser for better balance! 💪🏼 The Axcel is our favorite dial sight by far, with spot hogg being a close second
@@josephfolsom2030 that specific head was the 5 horizontal pin with the dial. We are typically using the bottom pin as our rover for our tape indicator! 👍🏼
@@straight6archery53 I have been using the Spott Hogg Fast Eddie XL Triple stack on my Phase 4 29. It weighs right at 15oz. Shot the Lift 33 a few times this week and really like how it holds. My son had gifted my Phase 4 to me last July. Have the 33 Lift on order and want to keep it light and balanced. I’ll probably go with 3 horizontal pins. Did you order your Landslide with the Mathews Bridgelock bar or separately? I know they make one with the longer dovetail bar. I really like your setup. I’m only shooting 55 lbs due to a detached rotor cuff on my drawing arm. 29.5 draw length so I really don’t how far out I’ll be able to shoot without hitting the sight with my arrow at it longest setting. 436 grn. arrow
Buddy….I can tell ya right now….ain't NO WAY “aftermarket” strings aren’t better than those 🗑️ Zebra twist or Tiger twist strings Mathews ripped people off with for years! 😂
As an old Matthews arrow flinger I agree with you 110% on the Zebra twist being problematic. I always said they should have named it the "Peep" twist and detested twisting my peep on every preshot. What I can tell you is I upgraded to their new string and it does not do this thankfully. All dealers are trained to tell you it the string will stretch and the peep won't twist after 100 shots. This is simply not the truth. I've flung far more arrows than this and it still twists.
If you like the massive size of the bow and have a huge amount of money for the accessories and you don't want adjustability than it's a good bow. Accessories more than double the price of the bow...it's a bow for the rich who can blow 3 grand on a bow. They are nice bows though
You don't have to buy all of their accessories. I never would. At my shop the LIFT is $700 cheaper than an RX-8 and $300 cheaper than the Alpha X. Not real sure where you're coming from.
Nothing worth upgrading from my V3X33 in my opinion.just a few add ons still have those ugly yoke string splitters .Hoyt,Bowtech,Elite got rid of old technology and if you ask me they are ahead in tech innovations .
Robbing yourself of performance with aftermarket strings is very false. Not your fault it’s just a lack of knowledge and believing Mathews marketing😂 Match strings will never be as good as a set of aftermarket strings from a reputable builder. Putting custom strings on your bow is probably the single best thing you can do and something everyone should do the second they get their bow if they want to get the absolute most performance out of their bow.
We are organizing a remote podcast with their head string maker at Mathews right now! Performance means a lot of things such as vibration, speed, poundage, serving separation etc. I don't love the word "Performance" either so it will be awesome to get clarification from the actual source! Thanks for watching! We will post that podcast when it releases soon. 👌🏼
I’d hate to tell you that every Mathews you see on a podium has had factory zebra strings in them. And now match strings on them. And before u go saying it’s not the same strings as what’s in the shop yes they are. I’ve put some of the top shooters bows Im The world in my hands they are exactly the same strings and cables. Million and millions and millions of dollars in earnings with those awful strings and cables.
The left 33 is a good looking bow. Thanks for the review.
Thank you for the comment! I’ve always said it, Mathews makes the most attractive bows by far
I personally think those speeds are solid and for as stable as that bow should be it should shoot lights out!!! Great review!
Thank you so much! That bow is truly awesome. Going from the 29.5” bow I suppose it’s bound to be slower hahaha
Lift 33 80# 28 dl 293 with a 450 grain arrow it’s hitting hard it a really aggressive bow that with the 85% let off moss with the 80% 297 but the strings are stretching some
@@JohnNeedham-zk5msat 80 pounds any string is gone stretch some
I am in the market for a new bow, Lift 33 may be the one I end up with. Nice review!
Thank you for watching! They really did some good stuff this year for sure. Every bow from 24’ seems to be pretty legit. Good luck on your choice!
Still can't Believe they continue to not serve the end loops on the new strings.... aftermarket is always superior....
Great Job Casey!
~Dieter
I finally found a left handed 33 in stock and was able to shoot it a bit. I decided to pick it up, spend some time with it, and wanted to report out my real world findings. To be honest, I was very skeptical about this bow when I first saw the release of it. When I first inspected one in person, my skepticism grew. You can literally grab the cam and bend it around in all directions (of course with the bow at brace) as the limbs are so skinny they just flex like crazy. I was worried about that from a durability standpoint. I was also worried about the cams being very, very skeletonized. They seem like they would be easy to bend, etc. Those were some initial observations before I got to shoot one.
I got to shoot one and my first reaction was 1) the draw cycle is very linear, just stiff 2) there is no valley (even at 85%) 3) the vibe/shock after the shot is more than the Phase 4 and 4) the riser length adds to stability significantly 5) something different in the grip where your thumb fits is improved. I shot it with both C and D draw length mods and landed on taking it home with the C mod. I bought the bow and took it home (we do our own set up and tuning at home)......
Set up was easy. With a center shot rest we had a perfect bullet hole with ZERO top hat changes or any other changes. The Match strings are an improvement over the Zebra, not sure how much of an improvement but they are better. They are thinner and they did settle very quickly and my peep locked in. So I just started shooting it for a few days. The bow has a very clean shot cycle, very clean release. With it all set up, the vibe/shock was mostly gone. I got used to the draw cycle being stiff. I never did like the lack of a valley. My style of shooting my hinge is to relax/elongate the palm of my hand and that style does not work well with a bow with no valley.
As I shot it, I realized the C mod was making me feel a bit long. I was not stable at full draw and could feel being a bit overextended. My shop still had the D mods, so I switched to them and now I was too short, feeling scrunched up. When I am scrunched up, I have hand torque. For me, having the draw length perfect is a huge issue, as I finally found out how well I shoot when my draw length is spot on. It matters hugely! So, sadly, I am caught between a D and C on this new Mathews cam and not comfortable at either. Note on the previous Mathews cam the D mod worked well for me). Yes, could I twist strings and/or remove the grip and/or fiddle with D loop length or even my release neck length (different releases) - yes I could do all of that to try and get the Lift 33 to fit my draw length. Since I have other bows I shoot well, I did not want to put that level of effort into the Lift, so I sold it/traded it. As long as Mathews runs this newest cam with the 1/2" draw length limits, I am probably out of luck with Mathews.
Conclusion, while I can't speak to the long term durability of the bow/cams, if your draw length fits one of the draw mods and if you are OK with no valley, this bow could be a great choice for you. Thank you.
I ordered a Lift just because I think it looks too knarly not to. That said, from everything I've seen, this bow is slower than my Traverse. So are most of the new bows over the last 3 or 4 years.
ONNEX Clicker! Love that (my) release.
Not sure if you mentioned it but shot sense fits the phase 4s as well
It sure does! Shot Sense series coming in HOT next week. Thanks so much for the watch!
My 2007 Drenalin bow is lighter and dead accurate still after all these years. Oh and shooting 305 hunting set up.
Looking at the specs and various test results what is significant about this bow that makes it a better hunting bow than the Z7 and the No-cam HTR?
I wish the microphone wasn’t so sensitive… it really didn’t do the silence of this bow justice.
No kidding! Maybe we’ll do a decibel reader video indoors or something. 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Im going to need a left hander sent to Florida
Almost done with archery season in PA. Have had my best season ever with the Phase 4. Are you saying I should upgrade to the Lift?
You don't have to if you don't want to! However, it's always fun getting new bows! The new Lift is definitely an upgrade from the Phase 4
@@straight6archery53 thank you boss! I should get in to try then!! Some ppl are saying the valley is awful on the Lift and it comes with a stiffer draw. Is lighter and faster. The lift is no doubt a cooler bow than the Phase 4. My street cred on social media will for sure get lifted.
What were the arrow lengths you tested?
The truth is the 29 is way bigger than any 33 inch bow...not good if you want a true small bow for tree stands or blind..the 33 is 8 inches longer than normal 32 or 33 inch bows...just massive! All new bows are quiet, stable and have so low vibration that it is a non issue today. It just matters what size will work for you..and how deep your pockets are. Personally I like the bow but will not get one due to size, cost of bow, cost of accessories and lack of adjustments and fine tuning..but Id take it if given to me.
Huh? The Lift 33 is 33” axle to axle. Same exact length anyone else’s 33” bow.. 33” is 33” 👍🏼 Now the riser lengths may be different but that doesn’t change the overall length of the bow…
Cam to cam?
@@optimuscrime608
What are you talking about? Do you know how math and measurements work? It's not subjective or imaginary. Check your meds.
Is this that new “common core” (whatever numbers I wanna throw out is correct even if it looks stupid) math? 😂
Were you using 80 or 85% let off?
This is with the 85% LO mods! Feels excremely good
Just test at IBO speeds for c's sake😅
What sight are you using? And any specifics.
That is the Axcel landslyde head with the Mathews bridgelock bar attachment in this video. It allows us to keep the sight closer to the riser for better balance! 💪🏼
The Axcel is our favorite dial sight by far, with spot hogg being a close second
@@straight6archery53 Are you using 3 horizontal pins as well as the sliding adjustable dimmer for the pins?
@@josephfolsom2030 that specific head was the 5 horizontal pin with the dial. We are typically using the bottom pin as our rover for our tape indicator! 👍🏼
@@josephfolsom2030 and yes, we are using the shade over the pins during the mid day
@@straight6archery53 I have been using the Spott Hogg Fast Eddie XL Triple stack on my Phase 4 29. It weighs right at 15oz. Shot the Lift 33 a few times this week and really like how it holds. My son had gifted my Phase 4 to me last July. Have the 33 Lift on order and want to keep it light and balanced. I’ll probably go with 3 horizontal pins. Did you order your Landslide with the Mathews Bridgelock bar or separately? I know they make one with the longer dovetail bar. I really like your setup. I’m only shooting 55 lbs due to a detached rotor cuff on my drawing arm. 29.5 draw length so I really don’t how far out I’ll be able to shoot without hitting the sight with my arrow at it longest setting. 436 grn. arrow
Buddy….I can tell ya right now….ain't NO WAY “aftermarket” strings aren’t better than those 🗑️ Zebra twist or Tiger twist strings Mathews ripped people off with for years! 😂
As an old Matthews arrow flinger I agree with you 110% on the Zebra twist being problematic. I always said they should have named it the "Peep" twist and detested twisting my peep on every preshot. What I can tell you is I upgraded to their new string and it does not do this thankfully. All dealers are trained to tell you it the string will stretch and the peep won't twist after 100 shots. This is simply not the truth. I've flung far more arrows than this and it still twists.
If you like the massive size of the bow and have a huge amount of money for the accessories and you don't want adjustability than it's a good bow. Accessories more than double the price of the bow...it's a bow for the rich who can blow 3 grand on a bow. They are nice bows though
What are you talking about? Massive size? It’s a 33” bow dude it’s the same size as any other 33” bow.. Your so confused😂
You don't have to buy all of their accessories. I never would. At my shop the LIFT is $700 cheaper than an RX-8 and $300 cheaper than the Alpha X. Not real sure where you're coming from.
He's an angry little troll.
Mathews is full of bs that swapping out stock zebras made bows loose performance.
Zebra strings were horrible man lol
@@martindicochea13 you could gain an inch of axel to axel just by using them for a month
Nothing worth upgrading from my V3X33 in my opinion.just a few add ons still have those ugly yoke string splitters .Hoyt,Bowtech,Elite got rid of old technology and if you ask me they are ahead in tech innovations .
Cool story. Switch to a Hoyt, bow tech or elite then 🤷🏼♂️
Rx 7 and 8 shit on the lift 😂
Robbing yourself of performance with aftermarket strings is very false. Not your fault it’s just a lack of knowledge and believing Mathews marketing😂 Match strings will never be as good as a set of aftermarket strings from a reputable builder. Putting custom strings on your bow is probably the single best thing you can do and something everyone should do the second they get their bow if they want to get the absolute most performance out of their bow.
We are organizing a remote podcast with their head string maker at Mathews right now! Performance means a lot of things such as vibration, speed, poundage, serving separation etc.
I don't love the word "Performance" either so it will be awesome to get clarification from the actual source! Thanks for watching! We will post that podcast when it releases soon. 👌🏼
@@straight6archery53 awesome that will be a good one👍🏼
I’d hate to tell you that every Mathews you see on a podium has had factory zebra strings in them. And now match strings on them. And before u go saying it’s not the same strings as what’s in the shop yes they are. I’ve put some of the top shooters bows Im The world in my hands they are exactly the same strings and cables. Million and millions and millions of dollars in earnings with those awful strings and cables.