Waited for your review, since my closest bow shop is now 400+ miles away by plane so I wasn’t going to waste my money and time to go shoot this thing till I heard your thoughts on it. Thanks for being as open, honest and unbiased as possible. Time to fly to Anchorage! Shout out to Full Curl Archery LLC #Sendit
I didn’t think the physical weight of the bow would matter too much to me, but after shooting the lift 33 compared to several others I think it was a big factor in me choosing the lift 33. It felt songood picking up and holding.
I have probably 500 arrows through my 33 and I love it, zero regrets in my purchase. People complain that "bows are getting to expensive" but they fail to realize inflation is a thing. A Mathews Halon from 2016 actually cost the same as a Lift 33 if you account for inflation.
I shot the Lift 29.5, and 33 yesterday. I also brought my Phase 4 29” to compare. I did find that the draw cycle on the Lift was just a skosh more stiff toward the end of the cycle. That was at 54lbs, 29” draw length on the lift 33. The 29.5 Lift was set at 60lbs and that was not a fair comparison to my Phase 4 29 set at 54lbs. Due to shoulder issues my Phase 4 is turned down slightly less than the 60lb mod it has. You are correct on after shooting the 33 for a few shots I couldn’t really notice the difference in the draw cycle. Thats how small of a difference there is IMO. Also the 33 Lift didn’t have a stabilizer on as my P4 does, but nevertheless there was little hand shock. I should have put my stabilizer on it but, oh well. I was thinking about moving to the Lift, but I just may keep on shooting my P4. It is the shortest ata bow I have ever owned. If it wasn’t for that long riser and the pie plate sized cams nock pinch doesn’t seem to be an issue. Gone are the days of 80lb bows for this old dog. I’m glad for very efficient bow technology today. By the way, good fair review
My LIFT33 has turned out to be somewhat disappointing because I ABSOLUTELY LOVE HOW IT SHOOTS…….. I made the comment earlier about my limbs being replaced 4 times and Mathews (SCHEELS The Colony TX) replaced my bow. Only to have the limbs on that bow splinter also. Those limbs were replaced on Monday and today (Wednesday) my limbs splintered again! Nothing out of the ordinary here; 31.5/72/85….. 29.5”/472 grain Sirius Gemini arrows w/ 50 grain podium titanium half out and 125 grain field point.
@@stacyhardin611 yeah I’m hearing about more and more limb issues. They need to get rid of the rubber between the limbs with this bow. The limb angle is too extreme
I spoke to 2 pro shooters at my local shop who have been using the Mathews Title with Match strings for months - so far the strings/cables are holding up really well over 2,000+ shots. Of the 3 bows being shot with those strings since release date, only one had even needed tinkering to perfect timing.
If I get both 55 pound, and 65 pound switch weight mods, will they shoot the same arrow equally well? Or will there be a rest tuning issue in doing that?
The International Bowhunters Organization and Archery Trade Association use specific formulas to measure arrow speeds. IBO speed is measured by shooting a bow with an 80-pound draw weight (+/- 2 pounds), maximized draw length, and a 400-grain arrow. ATA speed is measured with a 70-pound draw weight (+/- . Mathews advertised IBO
I bought a phase 4 because I was encouraged back in October to get a new model So I went on the website to check it out and couldn’t find anything on the lift which is the hunting model All I could find is the title target bow I called around asking and finally someone told me you could get a lift but you might wait 6 to 8 months So I got the phase 4 cause he had several to choose from It’s still a great bow and was probably the best before this one came out The biggest difference is the shot sense which I can live without The lift will stay in production for a couple of more years and what will they have improved on by the time I get ready for a new one
I’ve been trying to get a used Mathews vxr or v3 for 2 years now.. their price is just insane new..Every year it goes up more so I’ll never afford to get a new Mathews with my $12 an hour job…but even when i go on eBay daily looking .. people just have no idea what the word DEPRECIATION means. They want to charge retail or more than what they paid.. now obviously I just need a better job but I’ve wanted a good bow for so long it make my butt itch.
@@PatriotPopp19 Mathew’s don’t depreciate much because you can gets parts for any bow they’ve ever built. That being said, it is crazy how much people will ask for a 4 year old bow
All bows in the last 4-6 years are extremely nice to shoot and they all shoot and feel similar! Don’t understand why bow companies try to come up with a new bow every year. I’ve updated bows and even though it’s nice to buy a new bow, I’ve often felt that there’s no real need to because the previous bows shoot just as nice!!
It’s called capitalism 🤪 But I agree. I’m shooting a fiver year old Traverse and have a hard time switching. The only bow is probably buy that I feel is that much different is the Hoyt AlphaX 33. That draw cycle is absolutely butter!
The great thing about new bows coming out every year is that you can get huge discounts on the previous year’s top bows and they are still available brand new in the box. That’s how I was able to pick up a brand new in box 2022 Ventum Pro 33 for only $800. It helps that I am an archery tech and can tune and set up my own bow and that I am not very concerned about the warranty so eBay purchases on new bows that are the previous year’s model makes perfect sense to me.
Not sure if you have access to Darton bows, but a head to head against the Sequel 33 would be an interesting comparison. I own a V3X 33 and love it, but was impressed when I tried the Sequel 33 recently
How do I know for sure if my diamond Edge sb1 has a warped riser!! The arrow rest is all the way to the left and the site is all the way to the right and I'm still hittin 4 inches of the right at 10 yards!!
@@clayton1379 something is wrong if it’s that far right at 10 yards. Even with a wired riser it should still be able to sight in. Also, those bows didn’t really warp. You sure you’re using your dominant eye to aim?
I’m curious to one thing that All Reviewers talk about . HAND SHOCK, but if you are shooting with proper form and correct grip barely any of your hand is touching the riser. Correct? Plus they are not loaded down with our accessories so why harp on handshock? Not being rude , really am just curious
I ordered mine at the end of December and was told 14 to 16 weeks. Which would be April. However my receipt says est. completion march. So I’m curious when you ordered yours and how long they told you it would take.
@@InsideOutPrecision correct but my dilemma is I have a bead on a good deal for a trx38 gen 2…. I don’t plan to hunt with it. I’ve been eyeballing the new lift 33. Besides speed and weight, which one will be better for mostly target shooting? Which one holds your pin better or is more forgiving?
Holy s*** are you serious that means maybe they're strings will be billed to Speck because you know I asked them years ago I still have the vxr 31.5 and hanging up and haven't shot it forever but I asked him years ago about the string specs they gave me string specs that was 3/4 of an inch out and the reason why is because they put so many damn twists in their string
Seen quite a few people talking about cable rubbing, cam lean bad enough it won't even cycle, and multiple guys saying their bow derailed on them. Thoughts?
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 yeah people who use the rest to tune instead of the top hats might have issues with that, but if your shop knows what they’re doing it shouldn’t be an issue
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 but who is writing those concerns? If you grip the bow and twist it while letting down then of course it will derail. I haven’t seen any of the issues mentioned in that search
I own a Hoyt ventum, but I'll admit the Matthew's bow I shot was quieter and smoother than the Hoyt. But, they are aesthetically hideous. It looks like it could double as a walking stick....granted, looks don't kill, but this is taking function over form to the absolute extreme.....
The speed things isn't about the speed it's about Mathews lying about the speed. Bowtech Core SR is rated 1fps faster than the lift, but if you watch bow reviewers test both, the bowtech is way faster.
So funny every year it’s “more accurate” and holds better lol yall been saying this for a decade or more… by now you should be holding on a marble at 130 yards and your misses at 20 yards should be less than an 8th inch. Cut it out. I’ve had a lift 33 since November and several phase 4s. Great bow. Like the lift better but stop the nonsense every year about how it aims better and is more accurate. Target scores Havnt changed in a decade. Records Levi set in 2007 still holding solid along with countless others.
Exactly when my brother and I were teenagers we shot at each other's arrows with sight pins that screwed in and out and mounted on a flat metal plate. Every year someone that benefits from it says best ever! Deadest ever! Quietest ever! Etc...
These bows are trash and folks I know have been having delamination issues and cracked limbs ….when a bow limb blows up and causes a major injury Mathew’s will get sued into the ground
@@anthonyforfare7223 hahaha all good mate, if captions ruin his day just wait until all the illegals that have walked over the southern border get their green light to start, Peace out from Australia 👍
Is no one going to mention the non-existent valley on these lift bows??? Shot a 33 for the first time this week and it was absurd. There’s about a 1/4 of room before it’s wanting to runaway on you. Nope. Sticking with my Traverse.
That is actually what makes a good valley and a better shooting bow. High letoff/long valley bows make you lazy, which lends to being not as good of a shot as you could be. Perfect valley for hunting and shooting in general.
@@o.n.e.wayhunting Interesting... So that would essentially mean that Mathews has completely changed their own outlook on what makes a better bow? The Traverse has a terrific valley (IMO). That bow is only a couple years old and you're basically suggesting that Mathews, by their own metric, would say that that is suddenly not a good shooting bow? Moreover, the Vertix had a substantial valley, and so did the Triax. I'll add that I also shot the '24 Hoyts, including their flagship RX-8 and, yup, you guessed... nice pronounced valley. It is really tough to accept the logic that this new cam with no valley is suddenly the better bow. Mathews has made a complete departure from their previous cams and apparently their competitors also think it is a good idea to have a decent valley over a hot, jumpy bow. I've not shot the 29.5 but I understand from those that have that it is worse than the 33. The tradeoff here is speed. They gained speed. As an elk hunter I don't think that's a great exchange rate. If your form sucks then work on form. But it seems disingenuous to say that hold back times, adaptability to environmental variables outside of a hunter's control, and controlled let-downs in difficult moments don't matter as much as speed. That appears to be the assessment from Mathews with this one. Is your form better? Sure- draw, aim, fire in a shorter interval and it may improve assuming all other mechanics are correct. There are some comparisons out there of this lift to a target bow. I would not hunt with a target bow.
So there is valley length and then there is holding weight. I should have been more specific. Bows with 85%-90% let off tend to allow more laziness in holding on the backwall at a consistent pressure because they encourage lazy shot execution with minimal effort. A longer valley tends to rip your arm off when letting down, and even more so if you are in that over 85% let off range with a long valley. These are those bows you feel like you have to push forward to let down, which is a terrible thing. I run my PSE's at sub 85%, usually closer to 80%. It reduces what people fuss about in a hump and dump, reduces the valley length to a more overall comfortable and usable length, and allows a touch more holding weight to keep the shot execution dynamic and not lazy. My Lift 33 is running about 83% on its 85% mods, is a pleasure to let down, easy to hold on the backwall, and is an overall perfect setup for shooting and hunting.
I feel I can hold more steady on target with the short valley on the Lift as compared to the longer valley on my VX3 for whatever reason. Maybe it’s just me.
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The most in depth review I’ve seen on this bow! Thank you and Keep making them man!
Been waiting for your video as wel, confirmed alot. But also, you added and saw some things others haven't mentioned and explained. Much appreciated.
Waited for your review, since my closest bow shop is now 400+ miles away by plane so I wasn’t going to waste my money and time to go shoot this thing till I heard your thoughts on it. Thanks for being as open, honest and unbiased as possible. Time to fly to Anchorage! Shout out to Full Curl Archery LLC #Sendit
That's where we got ours GREAT guys and shop
This is one of your better reviews: the part on speed and what is true or needed in a bow was spot on - thank you.
Thanks man!
Nice to see you doing videos again! You will love the RX8! I love mine.
Just revieved my custom build, only a month wait 👍🏼
I love Matthew's bows i have a V3 but the prices for stabilizers is out of control
You don't have to use a bridgelock stabilizer
Redline has one that fits the bridgelock for cheap
@@pennyontrack So does Viper Archery
@@josephfolsom2030 those look good
I didn’t think the physical weight of the bow would matter too much to me, but after shooting the lift 33 compared to several others I think it was a big factor in me choosing the lift 33. It felt songood picking up and holding.
Been waiting for this video. My lift 33 with uv slider will be here in February. I can't wait, feel like a kid waiting for Christmas 😂
Been waiting to hear your opinion
Been waiting for this…👊🏻
Checking in here at the beginning. Hope I hear good things, I have one on order. Have no idea how long it will take.
I have probably 500 arrows through my 33 and I love it, zero regrets in my purchase. People complain that "bows are getting to expensive" but they fail to realize inflation is a thing. A Mathews Halon from 2016 actually cost the same as a Lift 33 if you account for inflation.
Sadly our pay hasn’t kept up with COLAS.
This bow is killer. Still shooting my traverse though 🤪
Dawg! Me too
Me three 😂
Me too still shooting and hunting with the traverse and switchback xt don’t see the reason to upgrade yet
@@shaunmoranthe only thing I regret is not getting the 75lb limbs
@@brentbandy3566 Travertix here. 75 lb mods on traverse rise with Vxr cams.
I shot the Lift 29.5, and 33 yesterday. I also brought my Phase 4 29” to compare. I did find that the draw cycle on the Lift was just a skosh more stiff toward the end of the cycle. That was at 54lbs, 29” draw length on the lift 33. The 29.5 Lift was set at 60lbs and that was not a fair comparison to my Phase 4 29 set at 54lbs. Due to shoulder issues my Phase 4 is turned down slightly less than the 60lb mod it has. You are correct on after shooting the 33 for a few shots I couldn’t really notice the difference in the draw cycle. Thats how small of a difference there is IMO. Also the 33 Lift didn’t have a stabilizer on as my P4 does, but nevertheless there was little hand shock. I should have put my stabilizer on it but, oh well. I was thinking about moving to the Lift, but I just may keep on shooting my P4. It is the shortest ata bow I have ever owned. If it wasn’t for that long riser and the pie plate sized cams nock pinch doesn’t seem to be an issue. Gone are the days of 80lb bows for this old dog. I’m glad for very efficient bow technology today. By the way, good fair review
DUDE, I’ve been waiting for this video since launch. Had mine since late Nov. still waiting on the 80lb mods to come in. Love the bow. Great video!
My LIFT33 has turned out to be somewhat disappointing because I ABSOLUTELY LOVE HOW IT SHOOTS…….. I made the comment earlier about my limbs being replaced 4 times and Mathews (SCHEELS The Colony TX) replaced my bow. Only to have the limbs on that bow splinter also. Those limbs were replaced on Monday and today (Wednesday) my limbs splintered again! Nothing out of the ordinary here; 31.5/72/85….. 29.5”/472 grain Sirius Gemini arrows w/ 50 grain podium titanium half out and 125 grain field point.
@@stacyhardin611 yeah I’m hearing about more and more limb issues. They need to get rid of the rubber between the limbs with this bow. The limb angle is too extreme
Any thoughts on the new strings Mathew’s went to on this bow? I didn’t hear you mention it.
I spoke to 2 pro shooters at my local shop who have been using the Mathews Title with Match strings for months - so far the strings/cables are holding up really well over 2,000+ shots. Of the 3 bows being shot with those strings since release date, only one had even needed tinkering to perfect timing.
If I get both 55 pound, and 65 pound switch weight mods, will they shoot the same arrow equally well? Or will there be a rest tuning issue in doing that?
The International Bowhunters Organization and Archery Trade Association use specific formulas to measure arrow speeds. IBO speed is measured by shooting a bow with an 80-pound draw weight (+/- 2 pounds), maximized draw length, and a 400-grain arrow. ATA speed is measured with a 70-pound draw weight (+/- .
Mathews advertised IBO
So you can’t measure most bows with IBO as most aren’t 80 lbs?
@pennyontrack that's correct.....
I bought a phase 4 because I was encouraged back in October to get a new model So I went on the website to check it out and couldn’t find anything on the lift which is the hunting model All I could find is the title target bow I called around asking and finally someone told me you could get a lift but you might wait 6 to 8 months So I got the phase 4 cause he had several to choose from It’s still a great bow and was probably the best before this one came out The biggest difference is the shot sense which I can live without The lift will stay in production for a couple of more years and what will they have improved on by the time I get ready for a new one
If you want shot sense ,get a mantis x8. Can put it on any bow, and it's less than half the cost. Does exactly the same thing.
I’ve been trying to get a used Mathews vxr or v3 for 2 years now.. their price is just insane new..Every year it goes up more so I’ll never afford to get a new Mathews with my $12 an hour job…but even when i go on eBay daily looking .. people just have no idea what the word DEPRECIATION means. They want to charge retail or more than what they paid.. now obviously I just need a better job but I’ve wanted a good bow for so long it make my butt itch.
@@PatriotPopp19 Mathew’s don’t depreciate much because you can gets parts for any bow they’ve ever built. That being said, it is crazy how much people will ask for a 4 year old bow
Do you feel that any of the newer 33" Mathews bows are a noticeable improvement over the Traverse?
All bows in the last 4-6 years are extremely nice to shoot and they all shoot and feel similar! Don’t understand why bow companies try to come up with a new bow every year. I’ve updated bows and even though it’s nice to buy a new bow, I’ve often felt that there’s no real need to because the previous bows shoot just as nice!!
It’s called capitalism 🤪 But I agree. I’m shooting a fiver year old Traverse and have a hard time switching. The only bow is probably buy that I feel is that much different is the Hoyt AlphaX 33. That draw cycle is absolutely butter!
The great thing about new bows coming out every year is that you can get huge discounts on the previous year’s top bows and they are still available brand new in the box. That’s how I was able to pick up a brand new in box 2022 Ventum Pro 33 for only $800. It helps that I am an archery tech and can tune and set up my own bow and that I am not very concerned about the warranty so eBay purchases on new bows that are the previous year’s model makes perfect sense to me.
@@coreycallahan7443 you need to share the link to your local bow shop. Phase 4 33’s by me are still $1200 😳
Nice review. I’ve heard this bow is very sensitive to the top hats. Have u messed with top hats on the lift yet?
Yeah we always tune with the top hats. I don’t know if I’d call it sensitive though, seems to respond just like the phase 4
I'm getting 6-7 dps faster than my phase 4 33 witch witch the lift is rated 7fps faster than the p4
Not sure if you have access to Darton bows, but a head to head against the Sequel 33 would be an interesting comparison.
I own a V3X 33 and love it, but was impressed when I tried the Sequel 33 recently
How do I know for sure if my diamond Edge sb1 has a warped riser!! The arrow rest is all the way to the left and the site is all the way to the right and I'm still hittin 4 inches of the right at 10 yards!!
@@clayton1379 something is wrong if it’s that far right at 10 yards. Even with a wired riser it should still be able to sight in. Also, those bows didn’t really warp. You sure you’re using your dominant eye to aim?
@InsideOutPrecision YES Sir!! Same way I've shot all my life!!! Any tricks to try before I go buy the new Mathews Lift!?!
I’m curious to one thing that All Reviewers talk about . HAND SHOCK, but if you are shooting with proper form and correct grip barely any of your hand is touching the riser. Correct? Plus they are not loaded down with our accessories so why harp on handshock? Not being rude , really am just curious
Would be really great if mathews would make the mods to go with them. No 80% letoff to be found
You've been shooting yours for a month. Mine isn't going to show up for 2 more months....
When did you place your order ?
I ordered mine at the end of December and was told 14 to 16 weeks. Which would be April. However my receipt says est. completion march. So I’m curious when you ordered yours and how long they told you it would take.
My brother ordered his the day before thanksgiving and it finally came in on Thursday. They give priority to certain sellers though
@@woodson159 It was around the first week in December.
Difference between this bow and the TRX38 Gen 2?
I mean they’re completely different bows I can’t really write it out haha.
@@InsideOutPrecision correct but my dilemma is I have a bead on a good deal for a trx38 gen 2…. I don’t plan to hunt with it. I’ve been eyeballing the new lift 33. Besides speed and weight, which one will be better for mostly target shooting? Which one holds your pin better or is more forgiving?
@@jethro450 the TRX 38 would be better for target. More forgiving
Man! Nice talk! You should correct the subs though...
I know, you can’t though. RUclips just does what it does. Won’t be using those again
Holy s*** are you serious that means maybe they're strings will be billed to Speck because you know I asked them years ago I still have the vxr 31.5 and hanging up and haven't shot it forever but I asked him years ago about the string specs they gave me string specs that was 3/4 of an inch out and the reason why is because they put so many damn twists in their string
Seen quite a few people talking about cable rubbing, cam lean bad enough it won't even cycle, and multiple guys saying their bow derailed on them. Thoughts?
Haven’t seen that issue at all and we’ve sold over 80 of them.
Look up mathews lift issues. You'll see my concern.
@@InsideOutPrecision also seen and heard about problems with fletching clearance with cable guard/guide. ?
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 yeah people who use the rest to tune instead of the top hats might have issues with that, but if your shop knows what they’re doing it shouldn’t be an issue
@@WolfinWolvesClothing713 but who is writing those concerns? If you grip the bow and twist it while letting down then of course it will derail. I haven’t seen any of the issues mentioned in that search
I own a Hoyt ventum, but I'll admit the Matthew's bow I shot was quieter and smoother than the Hoyt. But, they are aesthetically hideous. It looks like it could double as a walking stick....granted, looks don't kill, but this is taking function over form to the absolute extreme.....
Hoyt’s look gay tho
But mathews actually are gay
@@kot0564 But gays are always more stylish...its common knowledge
Damn, you got me there!
Thank you
What is with the wonky CC on the video? Besides that liked the video.
The audio was kind of muffled so we put the closed captions up
@@InsideOutPrecisionI was wondering the same thing. I don't mind captions, but man that font distracting.
You might want to start validating your auto captions before you upload. A lot of them are kind of nonsense around 8:30 for example.
The speed things isn't about the speed it's about Mathews lying about the speed.
Bowtech Core SR is rated 1fps faster than the lift, but if you watch bow reviewers test both, the bowtech is way faster.
Your captions were wayyyyy off lol
So funny every year it’s “more accurate” and holds better lol yall been saying this for a decade or more… by now you should be holding on a marble at 130 yards and your misses at 20 yards should be less than an 8th inch. Cut it out. I’ve had a lift 33 since November and several phase 4s. Great bow. Like the lift better but stop the nonsense every year about how it aims better and is more accurate. Target scores Havnt changed in a decade. Records Levi set in 2007 still holding solid along with countless others.
Exactly when my brother and I were teenagers we shot at each other's arrows with sight pins that screwed in and out and mounted on a flat metal plate. Every year someone that benefits from it says best ever! Deadest ever! Quietest ever! Etc...
These bows are trash and folks I know have been having delamination issues and cracked limbs ….when a bow limb blows up and causes a major injury Mathew’s will get sued into the ground
Captions on the video are really distracting.
The captions aren't distracting you, your ADHD is 👍😁
@@damienhaydon2703maybe put up a trigger warning ⚠️👍💥🤔😜😂🤣😅
Sorry but I had to because I find it hilarious 😮😂😂
@@anthonyforfare7223 hahaha all good mate, if captions ruin his day just wait until all the illegals that have walked over the southern border get their green light to start, Peace out from Australia 👍
@@damienhaydon2703 facts 😁👍 My Aussie brother 😎💪🤩
Is no one going to mention the non-existent valley on these lift bows??? Shot a 33 for the first time this week and it was absurd. There’s about a 1/4 of room before it’s wanting to runaway on you. Nope. Sticking with my Traverse.
That is actually what makes a good valley and a better shooting bow. High letoff/long valley bows make you lazy, which lends to being not as good of a shot as you could be. Perfect valley for hunting and shooting in general.
@@o.n.e.wayhunting Interesting... So that would essentially mean that Mathews has completely changed their own outlook on what makes a better bow? The Traverse has a terrific valley (IMO). That bow is only a couple years old and you're basically suggesting that Mathews, by their own metric, would say that that is suddenly not a good shooting bow? Moreover, the Vertix had a substantial valley, and so did the Triax.
I'll add that I also shot the '24 Hoyts, including their flagship RX-8 and, yup, you guessed... nice pronounced valley.
It is really tough to accept the logic that this new cam with no valley is suddenly the better bow. Mathews has made a complete departure from their previous cams and apparently their competitors also think it is a good idea to have a decent valley over a hot, jumpy bow. I've not shot the 29.5 but I understand from those that have that it is worse than the 33.
The tradeoff here is speed. They gained speed. As an elk hunter I don't think that's a great exchange rate.
If your form sucks then work on form. But it seems disingenuous to say that hold back times, adaptability to environmental variables outside of a hunter's control, and controlled let-downs in difficult moments don't matter as much as speed. That appears to be the assessment from Mathews with this one.
Is your form better? Sure- draw, aim, fire in a shorter interval and it may improve assuming all other mechanics are correct. There are some comparisons out there of this lift to a target bow. I would not hunt with a target bow.
So there is valley length and then there is holding weight. I should have been more specific. Bows with 85%-90% let off tend to allow more laziness in holding on the backwall at a consistent pressure because they encourage lazy shot execution with minimal effort. A longer valley tends to rip your arm off when letting down, and even more so if you are in that over 85% let off range with a long valley. These are those bows you feel like you have to push forward to let down, which is a terrible thing. I run my PSE's at sub 85%, usually closer to 80%. It reduces what people fuss about in a hump and dump, reduces the valley length to a more overall comfortable and usable length, and allows a touch more holding weight to keep the shot execution dynamic and not lazy. My Lift 33 is running about 83% on its 85% mods, is a pleasure to let down, easy to hold on the backwall, and is an overall perfect setup for shooting and hunting.
I feel I can hold more steady on target with the short valley on the Lift as compared to the longer valley on my VX3 for whatever reason. Maybe it’s just me.
If u think speed is overrated, you have never shot unmarked yardage!
I have haha. If you want more speed, build an arrow that’s light and fast. Bows are what they are.
@@InsideOutPrecision gotta be 5 grain per pound in ibo !!