How You've Been Lied To About Calories, Dieting, Exercise & Losing Weight | Dr. Robert Lustig
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There are several different schools of thought behind obesity and metabolic dysfunction, for example, the energy balance model or “calories-in, calories-out” perspective that many people have felt fooled by. While calories certainly are one piece, there is much more to the puzzle of weight management and metabolic health, like hormonal cascades and oxidative stress.
My guest today is the perfect person to discuss these topics with. Dr. Robert Lustig is an author and neuroendocrinologist with expertise in metabolism, obesity, and nutrition. He has dedicated his retirement from clinical medicine to help fix the food supply in any way he can, to reduce human suffering, and to promote a collective vision of metabolic health: protect the liver, feed the gut, support the brain.
In this episode, we discuss:
Is a calorie really just a calorie? (7:24)
The surprising truth: All models of energy intake are a little right and a little wrong (9:20)
Proven methods for reducing insulin to support weight loss (29:39)
What are obesogens and how are they hijacking our metabolic health? (32:00)
Reactive oxygen species and aging (and how to reduce them) (38:05)
Why glucose and insulin monitoring are powerful levers for metabolic health (42:15)
Summing up the facts and our beliefs around calories and weight (47:00)
The cellular impact of oxidative stress and chronic stress (54:00)
Monch Monch: a new fiber solution for absorbing simple sugars and preventing glucose spikes as well as increasing satiety and boosting microbial diversity (1:02:20)
Food addiction in adults and children and addressing the root cause (1:10:45)
What actions can we take based on scientific advances to make our lives better? (1:24:15)
Why any food that feeds the gut, protects the liver, and supports the brain is a healthy food (1:33:35)
Perfact and how to use it to understand what is metabolically healthy at your exact grocery store (1:40:20)
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My two favorite online doctors who can save humanity in the metabolic realm! Thank you both so much for all you endeavor to learn and teach to all who will listen!!! You’ve both been the help to restore what is possible to my health! I was a life long sugar and carb eater, along with healthy food. The sugar/carb junk nearly destroyed my life.
I am forever grateful for all you have done thus far!!
Thank you Mark for frequently interjecting and adding clarity, much needed clarity, to this guests often scientific descriptions that are way over the heads of most listeners, including me. I love the way you go back and forth with your guests to make it more interesting, more conversational, and especially - More Illuminating for your guests who are not Medical doctors! And by guess I mean your viewers here on this channel. Mark you are my number one favorite RUclips Doctor!
Absolutely, he's a real legend 🎉. Thanks Doc
I was eating keto, berries, nuts and veggies but still sick and unfamed and still had a bloated gut. I finally discovered what led to my insulin resistance and unexplained weight gain: GLYPHOSATE!!! I started eating organic. The weight started falling off and I feel SO much better! I'm healthy again.
Congrats , great detective work. Did you get glyphosate levels. Checked or did you just try organic food to see if that made a difference
How did you find out Thicker99?
Don't eat vegetables don't eat nuts eat very little berries. Eat meat eggs some dairy or be sick.
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How did you figure out it was glyphosate?
I'm subscribed and watch about one show a week. It's not an interview, it's a discussion, so expect fast talk with constant (supportive) interruptions , but they pull it off without losing train of thought. You could spend hours to review and study terminology to summarize the content of one show, to retain in memory and diet lifestyle. My favorite nutritional health information resource
Thanks Mark and Robert.
Mark does an excellent job of explaining things so lay people can understand. Mark is the best!
I love him too, may Almighty God bless him 🤲🏻♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Agree, he strives to interpret nutritional info into ordinary language to make it accessible for all to understand. Medical professionals can assume too much knowledge on the part of lay folk.
Thank you, Mark and Robert. You're the heroes of the industry. Africa is lucky to have to learn from you ahead of time.
This is a conversation I always revisit. I use it as a reminder that there are so many variables involved in creating good metabolic health. Keep on going. You can do it.
lustig is above and beyond the vegan keto argument. he knows the bad guy is processed food and especially sugar / fructose. he is smarter than many in the health / diet field.
Too bad he is overweight.
He's a moron friend. You don't need to consume tree bark/cardboard because it has ZERO nutritional value. This is dangerous misinformation for the sheep nothing more
Agreed. The main culprit is processed food
It's not this complicated! Energy balance etc seriously
Most people know this and they don't change until they suffer some serious consequences.
I think best compliance is learning how to cook! I have 2 sauce recipes for veggie stir fries and then make my own salad dressings. Very healthy and manageable long term. Way better then junk food and quick food at the restaurants.
Wow! Ya'll are awesome! That is so educational! How exciting to hear two people so passionate about resolving the root cause of our biggest health issues! Thanks!
You are heros!
A family member developed PTSD and started smoking at 14. They were able to quit 8 yrs ago. They recently had angioplasty, and on the table, the cardiologist said not 1 blockage and they're I'D say 35 pounds overweight ,but they grew up eating healthy from their vegetable garden a lot of fish , sardines and chicken. They are now 86 and healthy.
"Angioplasty is a procedure used to open blocked coronary arteries caused by coronary artery disease. It restores blood flow to the heart muscle without open-heart surgery. Angioplasty can be done in an emergency setting, such as a heart attack."
"Coronary artery disease is caused by plaque buildup in the wall of the arteries that supply blood to the heart (called coronary arteries). Plaque is made up of cholesterol deposits. Plaque buildup causes the inside of the arteries to narrow over time. This process is called atherosclerosis."
Huh???
I admit more than half of this went way over my head but I did appreciate Mark consistently trying to reword things so I could understand some of it and dumb it down for me…325 lbs full blown diabetes horrible neuropathy making my arms and legs constantly feel like I am plugged into electricity. I finally got continuous glucose monitor…really an eye opener but I am sad to admit I still don’t really understand insulin and how it works. 😂 thanks such great information!
Keep on Keepin' on. You will soon find what works for you in this fight for energy, lean body mass, and enjoyment in healthy food choices .❤
I wish you success and health! ❤
By the way, your dog is adorable! 🐕🐶🐾
I'm not sure if you have heard of him yet but if not, but if not please look up Dr. Jason Fung. Watch some of his videos, especially lectures. He breaks down how insulin works in the body better than many others. I couldn't understand it until I started watching his videos.
I want to express my gratitude for this amazing public conversation! One of the best conversations about metabolic health on RUclips by far! I have been following both of your work for years now, and your public discourse is truly saving lives! ✨👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I found out about the movie "Fed Up" while reading Dr. Hyman's resume. I watched the movie and enjoyed the presentation. I thought both of you were the stars of the movie because your work fighting metabolic dysfunction lead to this movie and the movement to get us all healthy. Thanks.
Thank you
On my short list to watch
There is a Fed Up website… also it’s similar to Cereal
Killers, Overfed and Undernourished and That Sugar film, all worth a watch.
This is fabulous. I love that there are finally some validity to women’s claims about “hormone fat” insulin is a hormone. It is hard to lose weight when insulin resistant.
My two absolutely favorite doctors in one video, I am so here for it!
I am so glad that the changes in the school lunch system are starting to happen. ❤ This is core issue making the kids addicted from early age.
Ngl, this is yet another reason why I'd only ever homeschool. I've seen the nasty junk served by the vast majority of schools.
Senator Amy Klobuchar even fought for pizza sauce to be classified as one of the "vegetables" in school lunches; and only changed her position when she wanted to run for president and people were calling out her ridiculous, anti-nutritional nonsense.
No school will ever care about our children the way we as parents will.
Hi Dr. Mark- this has nothing to do with the podcast . I' ve listened to multiple podcasts over the hears and have heard about your rather prolonged health challenges . Can ngrats on your persostence and n fighting for your health. Ive noticed you have done a fair amount of travelling- Bhutan, Sardinia, mongolia, the Masai tribe. I am glad you have been able to travel . I get the sense that the travel has been a very joyfull experience you. You certainly deserve it after what you have been through- mercury pousoning, C Diff, back surgeries.... I am glad you seem so happy
Mark you are a Great interviewer. !!! THANKS
Agreed. I like Mark Hyman, but I struggle to watch him with guests for any length of time due to this interuppting. It’s almost as if he is insecure about his knowledge on the subject matter and attempting to show that he knows as much about the topic as his guest.
Thank you. Great conversation! So enlightening on multiple levels. Thie info is so dense.This could be broken down into many shorts.
Always thanks a lots to both of you, very respectfully!
Humbleness is a virtue, Mark, and Dr. Lustig is an epitome of the humbleness.
Really appreciate you guys. This dhould be taught in schools. Thanks again
This was insane!wow wow wow. Thankyou so much for this brilliant nutrition/science marathon. Love to you❤
This was one of those interviews where I constantly said omg wow. Wow, such an informative interview. I have learnt so much.
Both of you have helped me save my life!!TYVM!! 🙏⚡️💪😎🤗
We’re all driving off the cliff with insulin resistance only for you amazing guys!!! ❤❤❤❤
Whan an amazing human being Dr Lustig is. Thank you for sharing all your knowledge with us!
Great video. Thank you gentlemen.
Great Interview!
Omg Dr Hyman stop interrupting with all your glories. Please have another podcast fir that
I am confused. He says carrageenan is a no but it’s one of the 3 ingredients in his monch monch….
Too much INTERRUPTING😮
I was thinking the same thing
I know.
I’m diagnosed with Hashimoto’s. Eat an anti inflammatory diet. Literally NO sugar and low carb, intermittent fast, Get sun exposure and exercise regularly. Even with meds and natural supplements My blood sugar is still borderline diabetes. And I can’t lose weight no matter what I do. I can’t figure out why??plus My T3 is not converting to T4. I’m stumped.
Question: are you male or female ? If you are female the drop in estrogen in perimenopause/ menopause can cause insulin resistance. Also T3 is the ACTIVE form of the thyroid hormone T4 is inactive form . Did you mean T4 is not being converted to T3?? If this is what you meant , I think this reaction requires selenium( not sure) . I have thyroid problems but Hashimotos is not my issue. Dr. Ridha Arem has written a book called the Thyroid Solution that I recommend. Are you on thyroid meds? What is your TSH?? For some people ( like me) who had my thyroid removed and can't efficiently convert T4 to T3 , I take a combination of meds, one med that is pure T4 and one med that is pure T3. T3 only can be too overstimulating . Good luck.
Sleep well, reduce stress, exercise more, do a programme to look at your blood glucose via cgm but supported - there are several I think
@@lindajones4849 I'm female. Yes sorry- I meant T4 TO T3 Conversion. My estrogen has been checked and looks ok. I am on Tirosint 50/75 mcg and a natural med that has T3 in it. And I east brazil nuts to the point that my selenium is high, so I backed off for a while. Not sure what to do but Thank you for the comment!
Hey there! I’m a 57 year old female and I take synthroid for my thyroid. My weight loss did not start happening until I incorporated fasting with low carb eating. The drop in estrogen will sometimes make women insulin resistant and that was the case for me. I did fasting gradually by first eliminating breakfast, went to OMAD, and this month I’m fasting all day on M, W, and F. This has been a game changer for me. I hope this helps.
Have you fasted?
Thanks very much two great, wonderful scientists. Top notch conversation.
Fascinating! Thank you for putting this information out!
Eat live food! All local grocery stores sells dead food soil health is human health
Hyman, you talk too much and interrupt your guest, distracting him from the point he was making. I'd like to get Lustig without Hyman.
They are having a discussion.
This is truly so educational and I really appreciate
I Love Robert Lustigggggg❣️❣️🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Marks constant interruptions about his personal experiences is breaking the flow, stop it. Thanks 🙏
minute 26 study on migrant mothers and their babies -- in 1964 I was 12 and was taken by my family to work in a migrant ministries program, I was changing babies of mothers working in the field. ( I had passed my GS baby sitting badge!) This changed my life!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark let the guy talk!!! Please! It ruins the video
😂 I swear!!
What do we eat ? I wish we can get a list.
Real food. Food as close to the way that they appear in nature as possible.
Real, minimally processed food
Look for for natural foods, like what your ancient ancestors ate, not modern processed stuff. And if you're trying to lose weight, choose low-carb foods (you can find the carb level of most foods by googling it). I used to be obese and I used to have hypertension, but now I'm a healthy BMI and I have perfect blood pressure.
Some natural foods are only good as treats. For instance, honey and maple syrup are natural and ancestral, _BUT_ they used to be special treats, they weren't foods our ancestors could eat every day.
Avoid processed sugar and grains.
Also, beware -- don't let companies trick you with "net carbs". "Net carbs" usually exclude sugar alcohols despite the fact that those SHOULD count as carbs. Look for "total carbs".
Meat, eggs, low glycemic fruit and low oxalate veg.
Fasting.
Fiber constipates me whether cooked or raw. Will Lustig’s product have the same effect on me?
What kind of fiber? Start with just a little and consume with lots of water.
Oh my god u are not letting the guest speak without interrupting. 😡
I have been adding both fibers to my shake in the morning and slowly losing weight. That was not my goal, but I'll take it. Likely won't happen for some because of the complicated reasons some are fat and some are not. My primary interest was protecting my liver and feeding my biome. It's a habit now!
Is the insulin measurable and how would it be possible to understand the level of insulin within our bodies?
You would have to find a doctor who can order the blood test. Most doctors won’t or say they can’t
Genetic factors and maternal conditions such as obesity or diabetes can cause fetal macrosomia.
Great discussion
Thank you for this Video
Question: can Berberine be used in place of metformin? Metformin blocks the MTOR pathway leading to muscle loss. I don’t want muscle loss
I love these conversations! ❤
Robert talks over my HEAD !!!!
This show would have been half as long if the host would have stopped interrupting and listened.
i love dr. Hyman - but sometimes when he is interviewing someone - he interrupts them too much - usually when they are about to say something i really want to hear the answer to.i had to turn it off - i couldn't take it - he won't let him finish a sentence!!!!!
He gets excited talking with his peers, get over it folks. Either one of these men can interrupt me anytime. Wish I had one of them as a specialist when I lost my thyroid to Graves disease, one battle after another since then
I actually often see it as him trying to get to the next point and keeping on time.
These docs are talking about some ritual health information and people are focusing on who is interrupting who? Really? Just enjoy the knowledge which is where the focus should be.
@@jessica93116 yes!
Food order (starting my day with protien-heavy breakfast (limited carbs) and having veggie starter have helped me knock out my cravings and sugar addiction. I couldn't have tackled anything else
What about people who are thin but having glucose problems?
Get a glucose monitor and watch every single thing you eat and see how it impacts your blood sugar. Also fasting helps tremendously!
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We are trying to learn
The information from the doctor is God send🙏🏽
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What is the ideal glucose level?
Incredible show ❤
This is unbelievable. so much information, a knowledge of 50 years put in one hour. Unbelievable. I'm in my third watch😅
Why does his product have carageanan?
My thoughts exactly! He even brings up how bad it is in the episode! What the hell?
what about Avocados that are supposed to be good, those start turning brown after they are cut - browning effect? what is the details about the old school way about 70% fat diet for diabetes and the thought that it was the diet that caused heart disease? was it the sugar? lastly, so the xanthan and guar gums are bad or causes leaky gut?
All my doctor wants to do is throw pills at the problem. Good info Dr. Lustig and Dr. Hyman!!!
Where can I order the fiber supplement?
Plateauing has been the key to my falure.
Sugar is so addictive- I want off the roller coaster please. Sign me up for monch monch.
Why is NO ONE talking about microplastics gumming up our internal systems? How can they not be impacting our metabolism?
2 of My HEROS
Unfortunately, Monch Monch Fiber... is SOLD OUT & not available until May (2024).
Also Unfortunately.... it costs over $100 a month per person.
I think we spend more than that on the junk we eat unfortunately. The worst part is we are ok with spending the money on junk but not ok with spending the money on our health. Trust me I'm speaking from experience 🙄
What!😲 Way to much $
I appreciate both expertise! But too many medical words that makes it kindda hard to understand
That is why Dr Hyman always so called interrupts. He tries to break it down quickly for people who don't understand. Can't exactly do that when you've already moved on from the subject.
I can see where this metabolically healthy processed food is going. If we leave it to the Food Industry, all food will be processed.
This gets even more complex when we think of the meat medical research saying meat is bad, but it does not differentiate between cows that eat grain, and cows that eat grass. And I am not a meat eater per se.
My QUESTION is: What is the difference between a natural molecule and a synthetic one? For example, what’s the difference between natural fructose vs a synthetic fructose?
I’m seeing many doctors say there is no difference, but I know this is not taught in medical school.
The difference is how can our natural bodies process UNNATURAL foods?
make it make sense
What about vegetable oils? Se Dr. Chris Knobbe att Low Carb Down under...
No. No seed oils. No processed foods. Veg oil is processed. No. It is extremely inflammatory.
@@redbonegirl1757 Just what i am trying to say. Watch Chris Knobbe.
My fav duo❤❤
Insulin is not the bad guy because without it you die.
I realize the point he’s trying to make here and he’s trying to come up with acute slogan or something memorable, but it is inaccurate and some people will stick on that
I just got prescribed Metformin not sure if I should take it!? My A1C was 6.5 not too bad and bam I was prescribed this drug. I haven't taken it any advice would be helpful please!
Berberine has no side effects and a natural supplement
Monch monch isn't even for sale till May.. sigh.
But beyond that... Both men have some great views. It would be nice to learn how to reset leptin and insulin though, it seems... If you aren't an elite, you will suffer from bad health. And that's why the medical system is broken
Giving people information isn't enough. ... Solutions needs to be practical and easily available for all us who aren't at the top of the food chain.
It’s the middle of August and I can’t find Monch Monch on Amazon. Where can I order it?
@@Chickitychick I have no idea... I've been waiting for an email.
Epic to get out to the ready public ❤
Great guest & info. Like how Mark explains things…but he talks ridiculously fast, slurring words.
Munch munch isn’t coming up on page one of my Amazon. I will keep on looking….regarding minute 54 onward….
At 23 (2000) y/o dx of narcolepsy which btw affects the hypothalamus! Can I not see my leptin? I don’t make the protein hypocretin. In 2020, I ended up with a rare type of endocrine hyperplasia (DIPNECH) after a lung surgery/removal. I’ve always had such difficulty losing weight. What do u suggest ? do u think i have insulin resistance?
Mark, I cannot watch this interview since you continually interrupt by affirming every sentence.
That was excellent
What would happen if the munch munch didn't make it to the stomach? I have some difficulty swallowing at times.
I don't quite know if I can take advice from someone who is very overweight...
spoiler alert: 20% of overweight people are metabolically healthy.
Let the guest talk! Just introduce him and don’t take the wind from his sails
Mark Hyman looks so healthy. An amazing advertisement for this lifestyle.
Yes. I saw a before and after picture of him on his health journey the other day. It was a picture at 40 and a picture at his current age (64) and I was blown away. He definitely practices what he preaches!
What is ROS?
Reactive oxygen species
Nobel price winners , no doubt!!!
If anyone has heard the program that Oprah had on GOP 1. Now here is someone who I no longer have any respect for. I hope Mark and Robert keep talking.
Wow! I did not know newborns are coming out fatter. Fascinating.
Big pharma and big food and big medicine making it harder and harder to avoid glyphosate and obesogens.
Mark, how bout MAJIC mushrooms
Oh yeah. Margaret Thatcher put carrageenan in ice cream. Well who put it in Monch Monch?????? WTF?????
Eat when ur body demands it not for taste or pleasure..problem slove.. you don't have to worry bout insulin or this or that..
People have complained for years about speaking over and interrupting the guest! He obviously does not care!!
Looked for the munch munch fiber everywhere and can’t find it 😞
dr. mark is sooo dilfiish