Egypt has edited its own history. In Genesis we see one man, Joseph the son of Israel, save Egypt from extinction by famine. He was one of the wisest people in the Bible. If not for Joseph, Egypt would have died. He should have been hailed as a hero or one of the Founding Fathers or something. Right at the beginning of Exodus, some 400 years later, nobody remembered Joseph, not even the Pharaoh. Millions of Israelites in the land, but the reason they were there in the first place had been erased over time. Egyptians were careless with their own history. Exodus 1:8 Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.
@@protorhinocerator142 I believe they knew Joseph (because the king mentions he fears the Israelites joining their enemies and going back to Canaan, which he uses as a reason to enslave them).
Simcha Jacobovici and James Cameron Made an Extensive Documentary series About 2 years ago on RUclips, Called, The Naked Archeologist. Starting with the Exodus and leading through many Biblical stories. Stripping away these preconceptions. Starting with the Jewish Bible as Simcha's source. It fascinated me for weeks. Much of it suitable for children but some a little scary. revealing New archelogy, and stripping away some of the old Biblical biases
The documentary of Tim Mahoney "patterns of evidence the exodus" from 2014 lays it out quite clear that Ramses wasn't the Pharao of Egypt in the time of the exodus. He's really a Hollywood pharao. Although he did exist later on in history
@@jdmills123456789 See the 200-page book ‘Amarna and the Biblical Exodus’ by Dirk Schroeder. Based mostly on the 382 ‘Amarna Letters’ (English translations of the relevant bits are in one of the chapters ) and lots of other physical and circumstantial evidence.
Are you saying moses parted the red sea killing a Egyptian Pharaoh and the Pharaoh's Army , but the Ancient Egyptians didn't document this event that would have been life changing and prove to the Egyptians the power of God , 😂😂😂😂 Christianity is funny
I'm pretty sure you do, but these stories are inaccurate. They're just stories. It might be the greatest story ever told. But it's not the greatest truth ever told. It seems is that the Roman Catholic church failed people. If you need to hurt the truth, ask us the Hebrews. Not jews And not israelite We are 3 separate people. We don't believe in the same things.
You say your not religious? Did you ever look at thst flag you post??!!! Pretty mad when you think about the reason for that flag and for what your ancestors did. England is finished until the people remember who they are and get back to praising and honouring their Creator through Christ. Christ is KING. God Bless you now.
@@steveOCalley there is reputable documentation to support this. Take Rameses II in his temple at Abu simbel, for example. On the walls he records a sweeping victory against the Hittites. But elsewhere there is ample documentation to show that he actually signed a peace treaty with them. This is also a good reason why they would not record the annals of a slave nation on tombs etc. Try watching the full video.
But your statement doesn’t hold water. There’s nothing particularly Egyptian about slanting their stories to favor the ruler in power. No matter what, Egyptology is an expert’s job. Making a video doesn’t imply that level of expertise. And if you favor the idea that the absence of stories is itself a story is itself a story, think again.
@@steveOCalley Talk about playing the man and not the ball. How dare you discredit when you have not even bothered to check out how much he has written or produced on the subject. Your own assertion is demonstrably fact free in itself. As an example, Rameses II temple at Abu Simbel is replete with him vanquishing the Hittites. Yet elsewhere there are records of them signing a peace treaty with the Hittites. And the fact they don't mention their enemies adds weight to the fact they would not mention the Hebrews. They leave the names of the enemy kings unnamed on monuments as to not speak 'life' into their names. See creation.com/egypt-chronology, an article that is also replete with references to support what I've just suggested. While this is one video, how much have you written, filmed or produced about Egypt. Bates mentioned that he's been there many times and liaises with academics in Egypt!
@@steveOCalley @stevevaughn8428 Talk about playing the man and not the ball. How dare you discredit when you have not even bothered to check out how much he has written or produced on the subject. Your own assertion is demonstrably fact free in itself. As an example, Rameses II temple at Abu Simbel is replete with him vanquishing the Hittites. Yet elsewhere there are records of them signing a peace treaty with the Hittites. And the fact they don't mention their enemies adds weight to the fact they would not mention the Hebrews. They leave the names of the enemy kings unnamed on monuments as to not speak 'life' into their names. See creation dot come and type in egypt-chronology. The first article is also replete with references to support what I've just suggested. While this is one video, how much have you written, filmed or produced about Egypt. Bates mentioned that he's been there many times and liaises with academics in Egypt!
The Bible has been used by many archeologists as primary source material in understanding artifacts being unearthed in the Middle East today. So people who reject scripture are denying documented history.
Unfortunately those people don't care about what's true, they're utterly in denial, completely brainwashed and only interested in what makes them feel justified in their denial of and rebellion towards God. It's sad to see people who think of themselves as SO smart be SOOO incredibly foolish and downright silly. It's one of the things the demonstrates that it's NOT an intellectual issue, it's a heart issue.
@@jordazmo19 Remember there are 3 kinds of Believers Un believers make believers and believers, The unbelievers are obvious.The make believers are not, the believers almost Always humbly mostly quietly go about their existence
@@all_bets_on_Ganesh we don't have to rewrite history, biology, astronomy, or any other discipline in science in order to accept scripture. The parts of these disciplines that disagree with scripture are purely theoretical.
We know that the Bible contains references to actual historic places,people and events..There is no issue with that,but that fact in itself does not confirm the magic bits,it does not confirm any of the so called miracles Inc the resurrection. If in 5000yrs time an archaeologist discovers a Spiderman comic..and further research shows him the NYC actually existed,that it had lots of very tall buildings and that The inhabitents spoke English...Those facts cannot be used as evidence that Spiderman was real.
The Ipuwer Papyrus is an ancient Egyptian manuscript written in hieratic script, 378 cm x 18 cm, residing in the Dutch National Museum of Antiquities in Leiden, Netherlands. Its official designation is Papyrus Leiden I 344 recto. It is dated towards the end of the Middle Kingdom. It mentions a series of disasters that correspond very closely with the Ten Plagues mentioned in Exodus. Read it. Then come back and comment.
@@desativadoofficial So people who have spent their academic careers studying ancient Egypt at the worlds top universities and institutions do not,as yet, have all the answers...but your unverifiable 2000yr old magic book does ...
@@desativadoofficial "So people who have spent their academic careers studying ancient Egypt at the worlds top universities and institutions do not,as yet, have all the answers.." Correct. There is considerable disagreement about the chronology. "but your unverifiable 2000yr old magic book does" Nonsense. First, it has been heavily verified. Second, it's not magic. You're just being nasty there. Third, it was written at the time, so would be more familiar with the events than Egyptologists today trying to put the bits together.
@@charlesdikenson744 Sure, kid. That explains why you can read about them from a variety of sources. Their enemies wrote about them often. But sure. You nailed it. Sure you did.
@@yahadyashabbat9364 you are completely wrong about that Stele. Not sure where you get your information from. That Stele was written centruies before David was even born. So how would it have anything written about David? It does recount a victory over a group of people called Israel. But It mentions nothing about King David as I previously stated that Stele was made CENTURIES before David's birth
This was very interesting. It does make a lot of sense that the Pharaoh was not a native Egyptian, but one of the Hyksos rulers of Lower Egypt. I never understood why the Pharaoh would be so willing to give land to these foreigners from the Nearest. This actually makes sense.
Where do you think the Israelites picked up their celebration of Passover? The menu of the Passover meal is so specific that it cannot be denied that is it all very relevant for what would happen next. I think it is such a beautiful ‘coincidence’ as to how that same Passover was used as the gateway into God’s new covenant with mankind. When Jesus cried out:- ‘It is finished.’ That was the sign of the final stage for us all.
Genesis 3:15 ESV [15] I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel."
@@williamtotherow3367 I’m sure you’ve checked. He said a few things whilst he was suspended on the cross, as you probably know. It’s easy enough to check. His last words form the cross were:- ‘It is finished.’
I am an Egyptian Copt, and I can say that the children of Israel were part of the Hyksos group, who declared themselves rulers of Egypt and considered themselves pharaohs. This period lasted for about 400 years, from the Thirteenth Dynasty to the end of the Seventeenth Dynasty, and they controlled the northern part of Egypt, while southern Egypt remained under the rule of the Pharaoh kings. The originals, and from there, the process of liberating Egypt from the Hyksos began. Pharaoh Kamuza died fighting them, so Ahmose’s daughter undertook the process of expelling them from Egypt, and he succeeded in doing so until what is called the Land of Israel now, and the era of the Eighteenth Dynasty began in the year 1500 BC.
Not so. This comes from Josephus who is demonstrably wrong on that fact. If you are a Christian then you should be taking a Bible first approach. Nowhere does it say that the Hebrews were Kkngs in the land. Only Joseph who was elevated to Vizier. Watch the whole video as it explains the Hebrew presence.
I have great respect for the first Christians, of which the Coptic Christians are a less-known branch in the West. I believe it’s *rude and arrogant* to the point of *apostasy* to tell Coptic Christians how to worship.
@@steveOCalley goodness gracious, you are so argumentative. No one is telling him how to worship. I mentioned that he is referring to extrabiblical resources to derive an unsubstantiated opinion. And you certainly don't know what apostasy means. BTW how many Coptic Christians do you know. I've been to Egypt five times for research and consider many my friends. And some of them are Egyptologists. They certainly would not agree with the original comment about the Hyksos and the Hebrews being one and the same. As I said, this came from Josephus and extrabiblical source. Do your research instead of just trying to score cheap points.
This makes some sense in that Joseph was the second senior most after Pharaoh. During his time of leadership, the Israelites must also have been privileged and also many in positions of leadership. Their enslavement came AFTER the death of that pharaoh.
@@bibbulmun777 Well bless your heart! 💜 Aren’t you special! Well, the Coptic Christians knew what apostasy meant, as they were in the realm of Julian. As for history of Egypt, I’m sure you have watched many documentaries on the subject, filtered of course for your entitled certainty of righteousness. All your Coptic Christian friends-have they actually uttered the words you have assigned to them, or did you scan their minds? Have you tried to bring them to Jesus? I am not so arrogant as to claim all knowledge of a Christian community that existed a millennium before your ancestors gave up idol worship. You do. I merely suggest that you try some humility in correcting the wayward Copts. I don’t mind how much you exalt yourself as an authority. Be my guest. And Josephus, a political agent seeking to Hellenize the Jews, a goal of the Pharisees and Paul, is a dangerous “extrabiblical source” whose clear actions all his life was focused upon the Jews and their incorporation peacefully into Rome. Perhaps the Copts lived and grew their Christianity through all these times, and may have felt less warmly towards this “Jewish apostate” whatever that word means. Clearly the move of Christianity other than towards Asia Minor was just an unintentional scattering of lesser “Christians” uninterested in the Pauline/Pharasaical traditions. I would not know as much as you do on the matter. Ritter 1866: _Josephus is, however, to be used with great care. As a Jewish scholar, as an officer of Galilee, as a military man, and a person of great experience in everything belonging to his own nation, he attained to that remarkable familiarity with his country in every part, which his antiquarian researches so abundantly evince. But he was controlled by political motives: his great purpose was to bring his people, the despised Jewish race, into honour with the Greeks and Romans; and this purpose underlay every sentence, and filled his history with distortions and exaggerations._ Did Christianity attain its greatest moment in taking over the Roman Empire? Or just when that little boy was born in Bethlehem?
📚🧐...when I was in High School in the 1980s, the mysterious foreign "Shepherd Kings" or "Hyksos", were thought to be Indo-Europeans- related to Anatolian Hittites...now we know they were actually Levantine (Canaan) Semites...they even had a King named "Yakob" or "Jacob".....
@@sophiawilson8696 ...Yes... they were called "the Shepherd Kings" or Hyksos...they were expelled (and enslaved) by Egyptians around 1400 BC ... shortly thereafter "Habiru"(Hebrew) raiders and "Nomads(Shasu) of YHWH" begin to show up in Canaanite Royal Records...
Hyksos were not Indo European and no relations to Hitties. Hyksos were Semetic people who originated in the Syria and later migrated and conquered parts of Egypt
Hitties and Canaanites are both of Ham… Hamitic people. How do people keep changing their origin to Shem/semites? This is lazy logic and lack of knowledge.
I’ve been teaching people about the Hyksos and their likely interactions with the Hebrews, and I’ve never personally met anyone who had ever heard of them (the Hyksos). Now, I don’t think that they used the name Yahweh to refer to their Semitic god or that they were necessarily monotheistic. Research shows they worshipped Baal (as a similar god to Set) and other gods. However, being of the Semitic language, they may have been more receptive to speaking with and about concepts related to other Semitic-speaking people, in this case Jacob and his family. Perhaps calling God by his name Yahweh helped reveal their background as Semites. Regardless, this isn’t talked about enough.
This is a very interesting perspective. But there are other possibilities as to why Moses (he wrote Genesis) referred (only one mention Genesis 37) to him as the Potiphar the Egyptian, maybe there was another well known Potiphar who was not an Egyptian so Moses wanted to make sure they knew which one he was talking about.
This is wonderful and answers so many questions as to why Joseph and his family were given the best of the land. That always struck an odd chord for me and I couldn’t figure out why!! Thank you for the clarification!
Every civilization in the world knew the king of Egypt by name in their language. Bible can’t name a king when something pivotal happens in their history? It just seems strange that’s all
@@PJRayment I say the writers of the Bible could not. I believe there’s one instance it does and it names a king from 25th dynasty. The story is probably factual or based on fact, but most of the good book is a collection of stories handed down and borrowed from older cultures. And because of that point I believe the Bible is one of the greatest pieces of literature written. Nothing magical or supernatural.
@@jjw56 "I say the writers of the Bible could not." Clearly that is the explanation that you prefer, but that means nothing. "most of the good book is a collection of stories handed down and borrowed from older cultures." Evidence please, and not just evidence for similarity, but that the other cultures _are_ older and therefore couldn't have got it from the Bible, or the same source. "And because of that point I believe the Bible is one of the greatest pieces of literature written." Copies are usually inferior to the original, but you're saying that the copy is better? For example, the Bible gives different dimensions for the length, width, and height of Noah's ark, and those dimensions have been shown to provide for a very stable vessel. Whereas the Gilgamish Epic's ark had the same values for all three dimensions, making it a very unstable cube! "Nothing ... supernatural." Evidence please.
@@steveOCalley "What do world views have to do with archaeology?" Archaeology discovers artifacts. Worldviews provide the frameworks into which you try to fit those facts.
@vhawk1951kl Yes, Jesus, the Messiah, the single seed promised to Eve. In Genesis, YHWH shows through Abraham many from throughout the world would be saved. As you read on through Genesis, Exodus, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, the Samuels, Kings, Chronicles, Psalms (esp. 22), Isaiah (esp. 7, 14, 52-53), Micah 5. That's an extremely brief mention of material to review for the Messiah. When Jesus - actually Joshua, but Greek translated to French-Influenced English brought Jesus - walked and talked among us, there was NO New Testament. The gospels (good news) and letters explain and display how the promise of the "Old Testament" was fulfilled.
He referenced the Bible as evidence. Not a single bit of pottery or any bit of physical evidence that puts Jews in Egypt or around the red sea or in the wilderness area they roamed around in after Exodus was produced.
People record their own victories. Just like pictures before social media, you take pictures during happy moments usually, not bad moments. That’s why is important to read history from different point of view, written by the winners and the losers.
no mummy of a pharaoh has ever been discovered in any of the 138 pyramids we have located so far.. it was originally speculated they must be tombs for Pharaohs about 100 years ago and unfortunately no new prevailing accepted theory has replaced that. They claim all the bodies must have been stolen by looters yet we have found many completely sealed “tombs” completely undisturbed that had no bodies. It really makes no sense.
@@skueky no mummies or remains have been found in a pyramid and yet they have found many fully in tact “tombs” that have never been looted or unsealed that are completely empty boxes/caskets. There is no actual proof that it was Khufu’s tomb other than his name found written inside.
A common mistake researchers make is focusing too much on Egyptian history to establish a timeline for the Bible, when in fact, the Bible itself contains a clear timeline if you carefully examine it. Throughout the Bible, specific years are provided, and all you need to do is align those years properly. For example, some people use the 480 years from the Exodus to the construction of the temple during King Solomon's reign. While the 480 years are accurate, there’s a critical point that is often overlooked: these 480 years represent the peaceful or prosperous years of Israel. The years of unrest or occupation by enemies are not included in this count. The problem is that many researchers fail to consider this and rely only on surface information without thoroughly cross-referencing the Bible. The years of enemy occupation are excluded from their calculations. The peaceful years total 480, broken down as follows: 40 years for Moses and the wilderness, 12 years for Joshua (though not directly mentioned in the Bible, these can be cross-referenced), 17 years for the Elders, 40 years for Othniel, 80 for Ehud and Shamgar, 40 for Deborah and Barak, 40 for Gideon (Yeruba'al), 23 for Tola, 22 for Yair, 6 for Jephthah, 7 for Ibzan, 10 for Elon, 8 for Abdon, 40 for Eli, 51 for Samuel and Saul combined, 40 for David, and 4 for Solomon until the temple was built. This brings the total to 480 years. The 20 years of Samson are not included, as he did not fully defeat the Philistines. The years of unrest, or enemy occupation, add up to 134 years: 8 years under Cushan-Rishathaim, 18 under Eglon, 20 under Yabin, 7 under Midian, 3 under Abimelech, 18 under the Philistines and Ammon, 40 during Philistine occupation (including Samson’s time), and 20 years with the Ark in Kiryath Ye’arim. Adding these 134 years to the 480 peaceful years gives a total of 614 years from the Exodus to the building of the temple. Additionally, the Bible provides the reigns of each king of Israel, so calculating these timelines shouldn’t be a problem. The Bible even gives us a key reference in 2 Kings 23:29, where King Josiah (Yoshiyahu) went out against Pharaoh Neco/Nekau II (610 BC-)and was killed. This event is crucial for piecing together the timeline. If we properly align all these years, the total from the Exodus to King Josiah is about 1,017 years, which takes us back to around 1626 BC, during the Second Intermediate Period (Dynasties 16/17), not the time of Amenhotep II as some suggest.
There are problems with the 18th dynasty Pharaohs (or any other popularly proposed Pharaohs) being the Pharaohs that so many people miss - but ill only just mention 2, which are pivotal and can be proven if the chronological timeline is calculated. 1) If following the 18th Dynasty Pharaoh's then that means that the Egyptian kingdom existed pre-flood which would be impossible. 2)The Pharaoh that tried to kill Moses died only a few years before Moses turned 80 and that very same Pharaoh ruled before the birth of Moses and had to be of age when he made the decree to kill the first borns - if you calculate that means that Pharaoh had to have ruled for 80+ years and prob be plus minus 100 years so only one Pharaoh meets this. That is Pepi II. He ruled for around 94 years and Netjerkare Siptah is the one Moses met and where he experienced the plagues , he ruled for around 2 years though there was another who ruled for 4 years before him - Merenre II. Just doing these calculation on the chronology this will become evident. And if you move the Pharaohs from the 6th Dynasty to the the time of Moses and the Exodus to 15 Century BC then the earliest rulers will all line up to around the time that Egypt would have been founded / been a kingdom post flood.
this is so fascinating. I’m going to have to watch it again and write it down. It’s amazing thank you so much for this now of course I know being as archaeologist and biblical historian and scholar. You would also know about the work of Jen and Penny, Caldwell and others like them and how they found so many things in that area of median. What would’ve been median at I think it was -I can’t remember the name of the mountain_where they believed it was the real Mount Sinai, which also a World War II pilot flew over and was told not to fly over that anymore and he saw what it looked like on top like something had burned it, but my question for you is about hot sheep Hatshepbut but I understood that they erased every evidence of her because they didn’t really like a female pharaoh.
@stevevaughn8428 I'm not. I get it from historians. But don't ask me for names. If I see a subject I'm interested in on RUclips or wherever, I have a listen or read.
The "experts" are tied into Champollion’s chronology which is incorrect. Therefore, they find no evidence that fits that time line. However, David Rohl has developed an evidence-based timeline that resolves a lot of timeline issues and places the Israelites in and at the time of Avaris & it was abandoned just prior to the unopposed Hyksos invasion & subsequent Hyksos dynasty. That places the Exodus concurrent with the fall of the Canaanite cities, including Jericho. Is he correct? Well, I don’t know. I think he admits he probably hasn’t got everything correct, but he has proposed it for examination & discussion, with a view to further modification to see if it truly can stand up. However most just want to tear him down with personal attacks & assaults on his professional integrity. Well, that isn’t scholarship is it and it tells me they can find no real evidence-based objections to his chronology, if they could, they would state them, instead they engage in personal attacks. There are 2 other major chronologies to consider though & while I find the subject interesting, I am certainly not a scholar on the subject. Sometimes I wonder if these “professional” Archaeologists just want to please certain political & religious factions in the region to secure archaeological permits.
عزيزي السجلات المصريه لايوجد فيها اي شيء عن موسي او يوسف التاريخ المصري سجل كل شيء عن حياه الاجداد اكلهم وملابسهم واحزانهم وافراحهم وحروبهم والوقت الصعب والثورات لكن لايوجد اي كتابه عن موسي موسي لم يكن في مصر الكتاب المقدس ليس دقيق هو حكي اشياء ليست حقيقيه
In the early 2000s a guy who determined that archeologists had the time frames wrong actually found Joseph and his families tombs,which were separate from other Egyptians.
I'm so grateful for this channel, now I can go back and read with a better understanding of God's word. Thanks so much for sharing. God continue to bless this channel.
😂 exactly!!! Some how he began to ramble about black history and culture without stating the obvious ....that they were Black .. 😂😂 I know that was tough to do for the whole interview lol
@@skunkape5918 -just google’Africans with red hair’ but that’s not the point.The point is that dyeing hair red is an African culture found throughout Africa.it’s common among Ethiopians,Eritreans,Somalis,the Masai of Kenya etc.
I been watching this guys videos for a few days and i just thought " my God, he lays out what i know to be true telescoping history and the bible so that each backs the other perfectly." I dont say my God in a blasphemous way as i was truly speaking to my God who he is also speaking of. As a bible lover and history lover, this man is a treasure vault of information.
"Lords of Avaris" by Daivd Rohl, is a very good book to read. Mr. Rohl has produced a "shorten" Chronology...and it is interesting how much aligns with the Biblical Record. Also, he presents the idea that, many "kings" were kings of regions within Upper & Lower Egypt. The Bible states more than once that Hebron was built 7 years before Zoan in Egypt.
What a fantastic presentation. Particularly your dating back from the historical Solomon to the time of the Pharaoh of Exodus. Your established chronology and events pointing to them certainly builds a case. Thank you very much.
This is fascinating... I see so many prophetic coincidences for proof that God exists. So much adds up, it's like a puzzle. Symbols and meanings of names. For example he mentioned Habarew (spell check) = Hebrew meant to the Egyptians, Vagabond, Nomad, or Wanderers. These were also the characteristics of many of the Hebrews (including Moses). How about the very name of Moses, it has two meanings (1) Pull out or draw out. (2) It also means son (Egyptian). Obviously, everything was according to plan... It was destiny. (Jeremiah 1:5) God says, “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you; before you were born, I sanctified you; and I ordained you a prophet to the nations.” Fascinating, just fascinating.
@@Jenigami You wanna know what else is fascinating? God is a spirit and we are made in His likeness. Moreover, for us to communicate or have fellowship with Him, He has to reveal Himself to us. However, we can seek Him out and when we do, He reveals Himself. Ask God to prove Himself to you and He will. " You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart." (Jeremiah 29:13). No one can ever say that they have sought God and He didn't reveal Himself. If they do, it would be because they didn't do it with their heart (intentionally and sincerely). Remember, it has to be with your heart that God will respond. In the end, this is how He will judge us. It's all beginning to make sense. Yes, this is fascinating.
Mary would have to have been brown. What was king David's color? Maybe somewhere along the way there was an intermarriage that resulted into Mary's family being brown. Or just one of her parents. Then Jesus would be brown. Jess are not brown generally. Soooo 95% no
It would be incorrect to say the word "Pharaoh" at this supposed Hyksos time (which I am not against ie I don't deny that P. Joseph was at the time of the Hyksos) Simply because the term Pharaoh only began to be used as reference to the king himself and not the whole Palace, starting from Akhnaten (19th dynasty) While previously it the original word Pharaoh which is "Pr aA" was only used in courtiers' titles and nothing else, referring to the High Palace. because Pr aA originally meant the high palace or the great palace. So the Bible got the naming wrong. it should have been king. Also if the speaker in this video 9:22 supposed that the king was not a Polytheist or adopted the ancient Egyptian belief, then the least thing he should do is not to call himself Pharaoh. Coz the term itself is liked with creed and the creed of the other Pharaohs including The Pharaoh of Moses. & hence the term "Pharaonic" is now used. The Quoran Got it right. It's written "king" during the time of Joseph. Also another correction to a laughable mistake: The MerenPtah Stele does not say the Nation of Israel it mentions a list of nations indicated by their names followed by a determinative sign describing the names as Nations or countries, BUT when it came to the word Israel it does Not have this determinative , and it has another one which is used for "people" so it means Israelites Not the Nation or country of Israel in any way shape or form. + MerenPtah was mentioning those Nations & made an exception to the Israelites which is not writing the "foreign land sign" determinative, but instead wrote the "People sign" (which is a sitting man nest to a sitting woman in addition to the III 3 stick for plural) so it can be interpreted as Nomads or people without a specific land.
@@khutsolewela2864 both. History is just what has been recorded from the past. Religion is about belief. Religions are historically recorded. It is amazing what was recorded in the Bible.
Great question!!! And it is!!! Check out the pyramid of Saqqara. It is a pyramid which was used for MASS GRAIN storage. Check out Josephs story in the bible and youll join the dots. Ron Wyatt also disovered the chariots underwater and the true Mt Sinai ,AKA Jebel Al Lawz (does the word "Lawz" remind you of anything?). Now look at where the 'top experts' believe mt sinai to be and i will let you decide for yourself.
The Pharaoh of the Exodus was the Pharaoh Seqenenre Tao II. There is an entire documentary based on it called "The Exodus Decoded". It's an excellent video if you have the time to watch it.
minute 19:11 tp 19:53 does not make sense because the 10th plague happened after Moses confronted Pharaoh. And the first born son would have been the first born of the Pharaoh that Moses encountered not the second born son. Please explain
Normally the first born son becomes Pharaoh. However there is archeological evidence that the firstborn son of Thutmoses III died in his teens. Therefore the second born son Amenotep II was made king. And Amenotep II's firstborn son also died early, which means that if Amenotep II was Pharaoh at the time of the Exodus, he would not have died with the firstborn at the 10th plague. But his son would have died, causing the second born son to be the next Pharoah. Hopefully that clears up what this guy is saying a little better.
@@selpingos "... in the video it was mentioned that first born died in the 10 plagues." No, that wasn't said. Yes, if you don't listen closely you could easily think that (as I did), but listening again, that's not what he said. He said that _if_ Thutmoses III's firstborn became pharaoh, he _would have_ died in the plague, but he didn't die in the plague, so we can conclude that Amenhotep II was not the first born. Which it turns out, was the case.
(03 September 2024) How does one identify the Egyptian and Biblical Context of the Exodus? Note the events appearing in the Bible's Exodus then see if there is in Egyptian Annals a parallel. If a parallel is found, then we have a match-up between Egypt and the Bible. Bible Events: (1) A large group of non-Egyptians is expelled from Egypt. (2) This group is residing in Goshen, the north eastern Delta. (3) This group is headed for Canaan upon being expelled. (4) Pharaoh changes his mind and pursues after Israel. (5) Pharaoh catches up with Israel. (6) A battle ensues between Pharaoh and Israel. Egyptian parallels: (1) Pharaoh Ahmose I expels thousands of Asiatic Hyksos from Egypt ca. 1550 BC. (2) Hyksos are concentrated at Avaris in northeastern Delta (the Bible's Goshen). (3) Hyksos return to their homeland, Syria/Canaan. (4) Ahmose I changes his mind and pursues after the Hyksos. (5) Ahmose catches up with the Hyksos. (6) Ahmose engages the Hyksos in a battle near Gaza at Sharuhen. THE KEY EVENT FOR ME: (4) PHARAOH CHANGING HIS MIND AND PURSUING ISRAEL AFTER SHE HAS LEFT EGYPT IS MET WITH AHMOSE CHASING AFTER THE HYKSOS WHILE THEY RETURN TO CANAAN. The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus (ca. 70 AD) in his History of the Jews opined that Manetho's mention of a Hyksos Expulsion was probably the Egyptian version of Israel's Exodus under Moses. I understand that Josephus was right, because of the above "match-ups" in the Egyptian annals of Pharaoh Ahmose I. Recently, Professor Donald B. Redford , an Egyptologist, opined that the Hyksos Expulsion was what was behind Israel's Exodus (cf. pp. 412-413. Egypt, Canaan, and Israel in Ancient Times. Princeton University Press. 1992. pp.412-413 "There is only one chain of historical events that can accommodate this late tradition, and that is the Hyksos descent and occupation of Egypt...in fact it is in the Exodus account that we are confronted with the Canaanite version of this event...In sum, therefore, we may state that the memory of the Hyksos expulsion did indeed live on in the folklore of the Canaanite population..."
Not true: The unbroken African Kings list never shows any Nysut Bty (Pharaoh) who was drowned. The Israelite Stele is of misread and Hyksos means foreign rulers not a group of Hebrews. Slaves never built anything in Kemet (Egypt) this was a natural building project actually recorded. We can actually read the Mdw Ntr (Ancient African Hieroglyphs.) So-called Hebrews wrote themselves into African history much later..
"The unbroken African Kings list never shows any Nysut Bty (Pharaoh) who was drowned." Given that neither this video nor the Bible claims that one was, what's your point? "Slaves never built anything in Kemet..." Again, who claimed that they did? The claim is that they made bricks, not that they built things with them. "So-called Hebrews wrote themselves into African history much later.." No, the Bible is a record from the time.
So where in Exodus is the name of the ruler that Moses know personally in the Egyptian court? We got Egyptian texts of Paid sick days and physicians at work: ancient Egyptians had state supported health care but who care about the Egyptian texts?
@@idread3523 Tony Browder has been study Egypt all of his life. Tony Browder has been excavating in Egypt for about 50 years. You can say whatever kind of foolishness you want to but Tony Browder is supremely qualified to teach, lecture and discuss the Nile Valley region of Africa.
@@calmdown2876 - I'm specifically talking about the bible and Egypt and I don't believe Tony would be correct because his point of view would be off. I've read many of Tony's books. Been it comes to specifically Egypt and the A bible, I stick to Ralph Ellis. Check out his lectures on here. That's all I'm saying
@@idread3523 The Bible has been tempered with by europeans who were atheist. The bible has been messed up every since europeans got their hands on it. You cannot go by the bible in it's current revised editions. King James was literally an atheist and mentally unstable. Tony Browder's work on Egypt and the Nile Valley is accurate. I have the blood of The Pharaohs running though my veins. I am not kidding.
The real Mount Sinai has now been discovered in Arabia. (See Paul’s words in Gal. 4:25) The land of Midian is found on old maps in Northwest Arabia. Jethro the father-in-law of Moses was a priest of "Midian". Did the name "Moses" come from the name of a Pharoah named "Thutmose"? (There are several RUclips videos about the real Mount Sinai in Arabia.) Recently a small Lead “Curse Tablet” was discovered at Mount Ebal, which proves the Israelites had a written language during the time of Joshua. An Egyptian scarab of a Pharoah was also found at this site.
Our family wanted to know this answer as well. We went to Egypt for two weeks and had a PhD in Egyptian history at Cairo University as a guide. He reviewed the history of various events and time periods. Firstly, for the Israelite population to grow as large as stated in the Bible there would have distinct Jewish burial grounds which would have grown to be quite distinctive and large. This burial ground to bury many hundreds of thousand of people over the years just DOESN'T exist. At the reported time of the EXODUS the Nile Delta had about 4 million total inhabitants both Israelite and Egyptians. So the Bible states there were 600,000 military aged men along with their parents, spouses, children which would bring the total of roughly 2 to 2.5 million people moving from Egypt. That leaves a remaining 1.5 to 2 million Egyptians remaining about half the population. The elimination of half the population would have collapsed the Egyptian economy into complete failure. For sure we know much about this period in Egyptian history and NOTHING has been written detailing these events AT ALL. We believe that to completely ignore the Exodus story is probably overly cynical but nothing as described in the bible took place. Maybe there was an Exodus of a much reduced number of people but that can't be proven either. In conclusion, based on first hand exploration in Egypt we can not substantiate the Exodus event as described in the Bible. Not looking to get people upset but we went there and saw with our own eyes.
I would recommend reading this article written by Gary Bates, "Egyptian chronology and the Bible" - creation.com/egypt-chronology Gary not only has done extensive research in this area, he has also led multiple Egypt tours, focusing on Egyptian history and the Bible.
I don't have a dog in this debate, but I am wondering at the comment, "This burial ground to bury many hundreds of thousand of people over the years just DOESN'T exist. " Does there exist burial grounds for ANY Egypt commoners...ie NOT leaders/pharaohs/priests/etc.? I really don't know. I did some searching and found nothing. But why would we expect to see evidence of the cemetaries/burial places of slaves if we don't see burial places for other peasants, commoners, etc?
@@fordprefect5304 "Archeologists have found Cemetaries around the pyramids. Workers that were well taken care of. Not slaves." But the topic is the Israelites who WERE supposedly slaves, right?
Also to add I believe the oldest pyramid in saqqara is legit called the pyramid of djoser is where the grain from the 7 yrs of good was stored for the 7 yrs of famon ... Which was Joseph's idea after he translated the Pharos dream
I'm just a regular person and I went down the rabbit holes and came up with all this same information, just like the man speaking. Once you know, you know.
@@TheBillABCTV this is called hippocracy... Bible is just history of Israelis not that you think religious book... It's just history of jews nothing to do with other countries... There is no phylosophy
He said Amenhotep 11 mummy is on display, so he was recovered from the Red sea while he wore gold, the would have sunk like a big rock. He is leaving out so much that cannot be explained.
GOD IS ALIVE FOREVERMORE & HE is working in HISTORY... his explainaripn MAKES SENSE and ACCURATE... history is GOD'S footprints not in the sand...but in human civilization... GOD has SPOKEN thru this VIDEO!
What exciting plot! God actually brought in a Hyksos pharaoh to allow Joseph and Hebrews to flourish in Egypt and then the native Egyptians kings took over resulting in the exodus, and all the while shaping the people of Israel to trust Yahweh. The native Egyptian stepmother though is a true gem of a person and also the possibility that the 'heretic' king was actually singing praises to a monitheistic god
With regards to the apparent mispronunciation of the early Egyptians identifying the people conquering the surrounding provinces as Abrews or Habrews I believe is actually accurate and not a nick name as Gary suggests. There's some evidence & some that believe that earlier Hebrew dialects had no e-sound and was a later addition. Thus it's entirely possible that the Egyptians merely called the Hebrews what they called themselves nl. HABROOS (עִברִית). Even now, the spelling stays exactly the same regardless of pronuncing the he- or ha- sound which is otherwise determined by the context...
If the pharaoh in Genesis 41 was Hyksos, he might as well have believed in some Canaanite polytheistic pantheon such as the storm god Baal. The God in Genesis 41:38 in the original Hebrew was written as Elohim. Did the pharaoh a Hyksos really recognize the deity monotheistically?
The real question to ask is: who became the Pharaoh after the Exodus. The Exodus Pharaoh, his Court & army drowned, his son & heir was dead, the Queen was alone, who became King and was that King in the line of the 19th dynasty? It is recorded she sent to the Hittites for a husband to produce an heir.
My question is if I want to research Egyptian history why would I start with the Bible as it’s not a Egyptian book and there are histories that far predate the Bible or Dead Sea scrolls it was taken from. Can someone reconcile that to me
It is a common misconception that the pharaoh of the Exodus drowned with his army in the Red Sea, but the Bible does not actually say this: So Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and the sea returned to its normal course when the morning appeared. And as the Egyptians fled into it, the Lord threw the Egyptians into the midst of the sea. The waters returned and covered the chariots and the horsemen; of all the host of Pharaoh that had followed them into the sea, not one of them remained (Exodus 14:27). Note that it is Pharaoh’s army that drowned. Psalm 106:11 is often cited as a proof text that Pharaoh also died in the Red Sea. It says: And the waters covered their adversaries; not one of them was left. Again, Pharaoh is not mentioned, and it appears that this is simply referring only to those who were pursuing the Hebrews. Similarly, Psalm 136:15 says: but [God] overthrew Pharaoh and his host in the Red Sea, for his steadfast love endures forever. Petrovich writes: A cursory reading of the text leads most to believe that because God “overthrew” Pharaoh and his army, both parties must have died. However, the Hebrew verb נער (n’r, “he shook off”) shows that God actually ‘shook off’ the powerful pharaoh and his army, who were bothersome pests that God-whose might is far greater than theirs-merely brushed away. The same Hebrew verb is used in Psalm 109:23, where David laments, “I am gone like a shadow when it lengthens; I am shaken off like the locust. Excerpt from: Egypt and the Short Sojourn Part 2: Historical support - creation.com/short-sojourn-part-2
Actually according to Bible there was a King of Salem who was a priest of the Most High Elohim. So the Egyptians would have also known who The Most High Elohim. Remember Abraham went into Egypt too.
The mud bricks weren't used to build the solid stone pyramids. The brick built constructions are mostly gone or are a heap of mud. The first major construction after the flood at Babel caused god some concern, despite them using 'brick for stone'. So the stone ones were pre-flood. Of the tower/ziggurat/pyramid, the Lord said "Behold, this is only the beginning of what they will do. And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them" Doesn't sound like they were building a tomb
Happy Passover have a great holiday of liberation . Thank you for this amazing interview. And spreading light on the truth of this story. חג פסח שמח ❤️
This man discredited himself when he said the pyramids were made to be tombs.... Unfortunately, no bodies/mummies or burial artifacts were ever found in the pyramids....
@@cosmictreason2242 I don't think so... Unfortunately there is no evidence on what they were used for, only theories. But we do know they weren't used for burial purposes.
@@TripSmithpossibly used for communication, like Teslas towers or they were just architectural displays of power. Irregardless the Pyramids are amazing.
Interestingly, the Biblical account of Joseph and the seven years of famine seems to confirm that the Pharaoh at the time of was not Egyptian. As I recall...as things got worse in those seven years, Joseph began selling for money food stored during the proceeding seven years of plenty. When the people ran out of money Joseph had the people selling their possessions and finally they sold themselves into slavery rather than die. In this way the Pharaoh of Egypt wound up owning everything (but that owned by the religious class?). As the Pharaoh would have historically owned all of the land in Egypt to begin with, why would the Bible suggest that all the land, the people and their possessions were conferred to him in business transactions for food?.
I just moved home to pay off debt over the next year. I gave up a good job to do so and I’m now living in a small town far from the beach in the cold but it’s just for a year and I’ll be better off for it.
1Chronicles 4:18 ".... These were the children of Pharaoh’s daughter Bithiah, whom Mered had married." Bithiah has been held as the daughter of Pharaoh who drew Moses out of the Nile. What do you think?
Oh my, so much info on Israel being in Egypt! I don't know if brother Bates mentioned it but did the Exodus occur in the Egyptian Middle Kingdom? There is another ministry that has produced films on the Exodus and whether Moses had a simple alphabet to write the Torah. The films are entitled Patterns of Evidence produced by Tim Mahoney.
Do not forget, the main economic source were spice and gold from Indonesian. India is closer to Indonesian. It can be said that Indonesia is India extension at that time to show how strong their trade and wealth.
That type of trading with sub continent counties only occurred much later in Egyptology history... actually closer to the Roman times. They've found ship manifests that detail this.
I have always tried to reconcile Egyptian history with the Bible and this made it so clear! I had to listen to it again second time.
Egypt has edited its own history. In Genesis we see one man, Joseph the son of Israel, save Egypt from extinction by famine. He was one of the wisest people in the Bible. If not for Joseph, Egypt would have died. He should have been hailed as a hero or one of the Founding Fathers or something.
Right at the beginning of Exodus, some 400 years later, nobody remembered Joseph, not even the Pharaoh. Millions of Israelites in the land, but the reason they were there in the first place had been erased over time. Egyptians were careless with their own history.
Exodus 1:8
Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.
@@protorhinocerator142 I believe they knew Joseph (because the king mentions he fears the Israelites joining their enemies and going back to Canaan, which he uses as a reason to enslave them).
Simcha Jacobovici and James Cameron Made an Extensive Documentary series About 2 years ago on RUclips, Called, The Naked Archeologist. Starting with the Exodus and leading through many Biblical stories. Stripping away these preconceptions. Starting with the Jewish Bible as Simcha's source. It fascinated me for weeks. Much of it suitable for children but some a little scary. revealing New archelogy, and stripping away some of the old Biblical biases
@@johntomlinson-j6x Also check out
Patterns of Evidence: Exodus.
Archaeological proof of Joseph, the great famine, Moses, etc.
@@desativadoofficialWhat was the cause for the enslaving of the Hebrews?
This is the second great argument for Amenhotep II as the pharaoh of the exodus. I think it makes way more sense than Ramses the Great.
The documentary of Tim Mahoney "patterns of evidence the exodus" from 2014 lays it out quite clear that Ramses wasn't the Pharao of Egypt in the time of the exodus. He's really a Hollywood pharao. Although he did exist later on in history
It does. But I think Amenhotep III is far more likely, with his second-born son Akhenaten.
@@izziebon interesting. Do you have any sources for that as a theory that I could check out?
@@jdmills123456789 See the 200-page book ‘Amarna and the Biblical Exodus’ by Dirk Schroeder. Based mostly on the 382 ‘Amarna Letters’ (English translations of the relevant bits are in one of the chapters ) and lots of other physical and circumstantial evidence.
Are you saying moses parted the red sea killing a Egyptian Pharaoh and the Pharaoh's Army , but the Ancient Egyptians didn't document this event that would have been life changing and prove to the Egyptians the power of God , 😂😂😂😂 Christianity is funny
I’m not religious but I love these stories of Jesus and the ancient world.
I'm pretty sure you do, but these stories are inaccurate. They're just stories. It might be the greatest story ever told. But it's not the greatest truth ever told. It seems is that the Roman Catholic church failed people. If you need to hurt the truth, ask us the Hebrews. Not jews And not israelite We are 3 separate people. We don't believe in the same things.
@englishgentleman3551 The bible is true, it's impossible to prove the bible wrong. Things were written in the bible that spoke of the future.
@@terrancelancaster5789 can you read Hebrew then?
You say your not religious? Did you ever look at thst flag you post??!!!
Pretty mad when you think about the reason for that flag and for what your ancestors did.
England is finished until the people remember who they are and get back to praising and honouring their Creator through Christ.
Christ is KING. God Bless you now.
I am not religious either but I hope you find jesus as your personal saviour and friend
Ancient Egyptians were notorious for not recording their failures or loses.
And how do you know?
@@steveOCalley there is reputable documentation to support this. Take Rameses II in his temple at Abu simbel, for example. On the walls he records a sweeping victory against the Hittites. But elsewhere there is ample documentation to show that he actually signed a peace treaty with them. This is also a good reason why they would not record the annals of a slave nation on tombs etc. Try watching the full video.
But your statement doesn’t hold water. There’s nothing particularly Egyptian about slanting their stories to favor the ruler in power.
No matter what, Egyptology is an expert’s job. Making a video doesn’t imply that level of expertise.
And if you favor the idea that the absence of stories is itself a story is itself a story, think again.
@@steveOCalley Talk about playing the man and not the ball. How dare you discredit when you have not even bothered to check out how much he has written or produced on the subject. Your own assertion is demonstrably fact free in itself. As an example, Rameses II temple at Abu Simbel is replete with him vanquishing the Hittites. Yet elsewhere there are records of them signing a peace treaty with the Hittites. And the fact they don't mention their enemies adds weight to the fact they would not mention the Hebrews. They leave the names of the enemy kings unnamed on monuments as to not speak 'life' into their names. See creation.com/egypt-chronology, an article that is also replete with references to support what I've just suggested. While this is one video, how much have you written, filmed or produced about Egypt. Bates mentioned that he's been there many times and liaises with academics in Egypt!
@@steveOCalley @stevevaughn8428 Talk about playing the man and not the ball. How dare you discredit when you have not even bothered to check out how much he has written or produced on the subject. Your own assertion is demonstrably fact free in itself. As an example, Rameses II temple at Abu Simbel is replete with him vanquishing the Hittites. Yet elsewhere there are records of them signing a peace treaty with the Hittites. And the fact they don't mention their enemies adds weight to the fact they would not mention the Hebrews. They leave the names of the enemy kings unnamed on monuments as to not speak 'life' into their names. See creation dot come and type in egypt-chronology. The first article is also replete with references to support what I've just suggested. While this is one video, how much have you written, filmed or produced about Egypt. Bates mentioned that he's been there many times and liaises with academics in Egypt!
The Bible has been used by many archeologists as primary source material in understanding artifacts being unearthed in the Middle East today. So people who reject scripture are denying documented history.
Unfortunately those people don't care about what's true, they're utterly in denial, completely brainwashed and only interested in what makes them feel justified in their denial of and rebellion towards God.
It's sad to see people who think of themselves as SO smart be SOOO incredibly foolish and downright silly.
It's one of the things the demonstrates that it's NOT an intellectual issue, it's a heart issue.
@@jordazmo19 100% correct!
@@jordazmo19
Remember there are 3 kinds of Believers Un believers make believers and believers, The unbelievers are obvious.The make believers are not, the believers almost Always humbly mostly quietly go about their existence
@@all_bets_on_Ganesh we don't have to rewrite history, biology, astronomy, or any other discipline in science in order to accept scripture. The parts of these disciplines that disagree with scripture are purely theoretical.
@@all_bets_on_Ganesh said you see the video? You mean he is all wrong?
Awesome! Incredible how archaeological discoveries further confirm biblical events.
We know that the Bible contains references to actual historic places,people and events..There is no issue with that,but that fact in itself does not confirm the magic bits,it does not confirm any of the so called miracles Inc the resurrection. If in 5000yrs time an archaeologist discovers a Spiderman comic..and further research shows him the NYC actually existed,that it had lots of very tall buildings and that The inhabitents spoke English...Those facts cannot be used as evidence that Spiderman was real.
@@michaelabbott9080 so just like the story of evolution and cosmology.
@@Reg_The_Galah
"so just like the story of evolution and cosmology."
Huh?
@@PJRayment never you mind
@@Reg_The_Galah
"never you mind"
I'm not allowed to ask what the basis is for your comparison? That seems rather arrogant.
The Ipuwer Papyrus is an ancient Egyptian manuscript written in hieratic script, 378 cm x 18 cm, residing in the Dutch National Museum of Antiquities in Leiden, Netherlands. Its official designation is Papyrus Leiden I 344 recto. It is dated towards the end of the Middle Kingdom. It mentions a series of disasters that correspond very closely with the Ten Plagues mentioned in Exodus. Read it. Then come back and comment.
Do Egyptologists date the events consistent with the 1446BC exodus?
@@KenJackson_US Egyptologists doesn't seem to agree with anything
@@desativadoofficial So people who have spent their academic careers studying ancient Egypt at the worlds top universities and institutions do not,as yet, have all the answers...but your unverifiable 2000yr old magic book does ...
@@michaelabbott9080 What does my reply have to do with yours? You want attention, take it.
@@desativadoofficial
"So people who have spent their academic careers studying ancient Egypt at the worlds top universities and institutions do not,as yet, have all the answers.."
Correct. There is considerable disagreement about the chronology.
"but your unverifiable 2000yr old magic book does"
Nonsense. First, it has been heavily verified. Second, it's not magic. You're just being nasty there. Third, it was written at the time, so would be more familiar with the events than Egyptologists today trying to put the bits together.
Bible archaeology is so fun. I love this stuff!
I'm glad you enjoy it. Would you care to share what archaeological evidence supporting the Bible you have found so far?
@@wefinishthisnow3883 watch expedition bible, and also watch this video
@@wefinishthisnow3883 Google the hundreds of archaeological finds in Israel that verify what is written in the Bible.
There is none.
Very interesting and instructive talk. Thank you Gary.
The Egyptians were notorious for recording their own victories only and not of their enemies.
And the Egyptians would claim victory where there was no clear victory. The battle against the Hittites resulted in both sides claiming victory.
Meneptah Stele.. ancient Egyptian records speaks of King David of Israel
There was no ancient Egypt
@@charlesdikenson744 Sure, kid. That explains why you can read about them from a variety of sources. Their enemies wrote about them often. But sure. You nailed it. Sure you did.
@@yahadyashabbat9364 you are completely wrong about that Stele. Not sure where you get your information from.
That Stele was written centruies before David was even born. So how would it have anything written about David?
It does recount a victory over a group of people called Israel. But
It mentions nothing about King David as I previously stated that Stele was made CENTURIES before David's birth
Good teaching sir 👍🏾,...watching from across the pond ✊🏾 🇯🇲
Same 👍🏴
This was the most encouraging and confusing video I've seen in a long time. Thanks.
I totally agree with u. So many questions were going through my head.
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Thanks for this, incredible interview and really enlightening.
This was very interesting. It does make a lot of sense that the Pharaoh was not a native Egyptian, but one of the Hyksos rulers of Lower Egypt. I never understood why the Pharaoh would be so willing to give land to these foreigners from the Nearest. This actually makes sense.
Abraham also traveled into Egypt for a time, it's possible he is the "Hyksos"
Where do you think the Israelites picked up their celebration of Passover?
The menu of the Passover meal is so specific that it cannot be denied that is it all very relevant for what would happen next.
I think it is such a beautiful ‘coincidence’ as to how that same Passover was used as the gateway into God’s new covenant with mankind.
When Jesus cried out:- ‘It is finished.’ That was the sign of the final stage for us all.
Genesis 3:15 ESV
[15] I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel."
I thought he cried out "Lord why have you forsaken me" or Forgive them for they do not know what they do" which is it?
@@williamtotherow3367 I’m sure you’ve checked. He said a few things whilst he was suspended on the cross, as you probably know. It’s easy enough to check.
His last words form the cross were:- ‘It is finished.’
@@JesusistheonetrueGod I seem to have missed your point. Did you mean to attach it to my observation?
@@expressoevangelism80 Not true, each gospel has it different "Jesus last words are different depending on which Gospel you read.
Interesting to note that the most prosperous dynasty of Egypt was 18th so God really did bless Joseph and Israel
100%
The isrealites was dark skinned
Lies
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@@zion-jabezrobello7853 who cares
I am an Egyptian Copt, and I can say that the children of Israel were part of the Hyksos group, who declared themselves rulers of Egypt and considered themselves pharaohs. This period lasted for about 400 years, from the Thirteenth Dynasty to the end of the Seventeenth Dynasty, and they controlled the northern part of Egypt, while southern Egypt remained under the rule of the Pharaoh kings. The originals, and from there, the process of liberating Egypt from the Hyksos began. Pharaoh Kamuza died fighting them, so Ahmose’s daughter undertook the process of expelling them from Egypt, and he succeeded in doing so until what is called the Land of Israel now, and the era of the Eighteenth Dynasty began in the year 1500 BC.
Not so. This comes from Josephus who is demonstrably wrong on that fact. If you are a Christian then you should be taking a Bible first approach. Nowhere does it say that the Hebrews were Kkngs in the land. Only Joseph who was elevated to Vizier. Watch the whole video as it explains the Hebrew presence.
I have great respect for the first Christians, of which the Coptic Christians are a less-known branch in the West.
I believe it’s *rude and arrogant* to the point of *apostasy* to tell Coptic Christians how to worship.
@@steveOCalley goodness gracious, you are so argumentative. No one is telling him how to worship. I mentioned that he is referring to extrabiblical resources to derive an unsubstantiated opinion. And you certainly don't know what apostasy means. BTW how many Coptic Christians do you know. I've been to Egypt five times for research and consider many my friends. And some of them are Egyptologists. They certainly would not agree with the original comment about the Hyksos and the Hebrews being one and the same. As I said, this came from Josephus and extrabiblical source. Do your research instead of just trying to score cheap points.
This makes some sense in that Joseph was the second senior most after Pharaoh. During his time of leadership, the Israelites must also have been privileged and also many in positions of leadership. Their enslavement came AFTER the death of that pharaoh.
@@bibbulmun777 Well bless your heart! 💜 Aren’t you special! Well, the Coptic Christians knew what apostasy meant, as they were in the realm of Julian.
As for history of Egypt, I’m sure you have watched many documentaries on the subject, filtered of course for your entitled certainty of righteousness.
All your Coptic Christian friends-have they actually uttered the words you have assigned to them, or did you scan their minds? Have you tried to bring them to Jesus?
I am not so arrogant as to claim all knowledge of a Christian community that existed a millennium before your ancestors gave up idol worship. You do.
I merely suggest that you try some humility in correcting the wayward Copts. I don’t mind how much you exalt yourself as an authority. Be my guest.
And Josephus, a political agent seeking to Hellenize the Jews, a goal of the Pharisees and Paul, is a dangerous “extrabiblical source” whose clear actions all his life was focused upon the Jews and their incorporation peacefully into Rome.
Perhaps the Copts lived and grew their Christianity through all these times, and may have felt less warmly towards this “Jewish apostate” whatever that word means.
Clearly the move of Christianity other than towards Asia Minor was just an unintentional scattering of lesser “Christians” uninterested in the Pauline/Pharasaical traditions. I would not know as much as you do on the matter.
Ritter 1866:
_Josephus is, however, to be used with great care. As a Jewish scholar, as an officer of Galilee, as a military man, and a person of great experience in everything belonging to his own nation, he attained to that remarkable familiarity with his country in every part, which his antiquarian researches so abundantly evince. But he was controlled by political motives: his great purpose was to bring his people, the despised Jewish race, into honour with the Greeks and Romans; and this purpose underlay every sentence, and filled his history with distortions and exaggerations._
Did Christianity attain its greatest moment in taking over the Roman Empire? Or just when that little boy was born in Bethlehem?
📚🧐...when I was in High School in the 1980s, the mysterious foreign "Shepherd Kings" or "Hyksos", were thought to be Indo-Europeans- related to Anatolian Hittites...now we know they were actually Levantine (Canaan) Semites...they even had a King named "Yakob" or "Jacob".....
They were ran out of Egypt!
@@sophiawilson8696 ...Yes... they were called "the Shepherd Kings" or Hyksos...they were expelled (and enslaved) by Egyptians around 1400 BC ... shortly thereafter "Habiru"(Hebrew) raiders and "Nomads(Shasu) of YHWH" begin to show up in Canaanite Royal Records...
Hyksos were not Indo European and no relations to Hitties. Hyksos were Semetic people who originated in the Syria and later migrated and conquered parts of Egypt
Hitties and Canaanites are both of Ham… Hamitic people. How do people keep changing their origin to Shem/semites? This is lazy logic and lack of knowledge.
You mean Canaan land of the Blacks ?? Ok got it!! So indo Europeans lived in Canaan land of the black!! Got it !! Everything makes a lot of sense now😅
Excellent presentation and interview!
I’ve been teaching people about the Hyksos and their likely interactions with the Hebrews, and I’ve never personally met anyone who had ever heard of them (the Hyksos). Now, I don’t think that they used the name Yahweh to refer to their Semitic god or that they were necessarily monotheistic. Research shows they worshipped Baal (as a similar god to Set) and other gods. However, being of the Semitic language, they may have been more receptive to speaking with and about concepts related to other Semitic-speaking people, in this case Jacob and his family. Perhaps calling God by his name Yahweh helped reveal their background as Semites. Regardless, this isn’t talked about enough.
Thank you CMI! Watching now 😊🙏✝️
This is a very interesting perspective. But there are other possibilities as to why Moses (he wrote Genesis) referred (only one mention Genesis 37) to him as the Potiphar the Egyptian, maybe there was another well known Potiphar who was not an Egyptian so Moses wanted to make sure they knew which one he was talking about.
This is wonderful and answers so many questions as to why Joseph and his family were given the best of the land. That always struck an odd chord for me and I couldn’t figure out why!! Thank you for the clarification!
Every civilization in the world knew the king of Egypt by name in their language. Bible can’t name a king when something pivotal happens in their history? It just seems strange that’s all
"Bible can’t name a king when something pivotal happens in their history?"
Can't? Or chose not to?
@@PJRayment I say the writers of the Bible could not. I believe there’s one instance it does and it names a king from 25th dynasty. The story is probably factual or based on fact, but most of the good book is a collection of stories handed down and borrowed from older cultures. And because of that point I believe the Bible is one of the greatest pieces of literature written. Nothing magical or supernatural.
@@jjw56
"I say the writers of the Bible could not."
Clearly that is the explanation that you prefer, but that means nothing.
"most of the good book is a collection of stories handed down and borrowed from older cultures."
Evidence please, and not just evidence for similarity, but that the other cultures _are_ older and therefore couldn't have got it from the Bible, or the same source.
"And because of that point I believe the Bible is one of the greatest pieces of literature written."
Copies are usually inferior to the original, but you're saying that the copy is better? For example, the Bible gives different dimensions for the length, width, and height of Noah's ark, and those dimensions have been shown to provide for a very stable vessel. Whereas the Gilgamish Epic's ark had the same values for all three dimensions, making it a very unstable cube!
"Nothing ... supernatural."
Evidence please.
@@PJRayment wow … and Jonah ate the whale.
@@jjw56were the Romans after him unable to identify commodus? Or chose not to?
00:42 amen! It is a battle of worldviews. The secular worldview vs the Bible worldview.
What do world views have to do with archaeology?
@@steveOCalley
"What do world views have to do with archaeology?"
Archaeology discovers artifacts. Worldviews provide the frameworks into which you try to fit those facts.
Great! More historical & archeological evidence showing the validity of the Bible!
I love the Truth.
@vhawk1951kl Yes, Jesus, the Messiah, the single seed promised to Eve. In Genesis, YHWH shows through Abraham many from throughout the world would be saved. As you read on through Genesis, Exodus, Joshua, Judges, Ruth, the Samuels, Kings, Chronicles, Psalms (esp. 22), Isaiah (esp. 7, 14, 52-53), Micah 5.
That's an extremely brief mention of material to review for the Messiah. When Jesus - actually Joshua, but Greek translated to French-Influenced English brought Jesus - walked and talked among us, there was NO New Testament. The gospels (good news) and letters explain and display how the promise of the "Old Testament" was fulfilled.
He referenced the Bible as evidence. Not a single bit of pottery or any bit of physical evidence that puts Jews in Egypt or around the red sea or in the wilderness area they roamed around in after Exodus was produced.
I never even thought to look there.
People record their own victories. Just like pictures before social media, you take pictures during happy moments usually, not bad moments. That’s why is important to read history from different point of view, written by the winners and the losers.
He says pyramids were ancient tombs… when we never found a tomb or grave inside of a pyramid ever. Tells us all we need to know about his credentials
Isn't there buriel chambers in the pyramids?
Nope
@@AmpSkillz The Great Pyramid of Giza was the of tomb Khufu, a pharaoh. Look it up if you don't believe me.
no mummy of a pharaoh has ever been discovered in any of the 138 pyramids we have located so far.. it was originally speculated they must be tombs for Pharaohs about 100 years ago and unfortunately no new prevailing accepted theory has replaced that. They claim all the bodies must have been stolen by looters yet we have found many completely sealed “tombs” completely undisturbed that had no bodies. It really makes no sense.
@@skueky no mummies or remains have been found in a pyramid and yet they have found many fully in tact “tombs” that have never been looted or unsealed that are completely empty boxes/caskets. There is no actual proof that it was Khufu’s tomb other than his name found written inside.
A common mistake researchers make is focusing too much on Egyptian history to establish a timeline for the Bible, when in fact, the Bible itself contains a clear timeline if you carefully examine it. Throughout the Bible, specific years are provided, and all you need to do is align those years properly.
For example, some people use the 480 years from the Exodus to the construction of the temple during King Solomon's reign. While the 480 years are accurate, there’s a critical point that is often overlooked: these 480 years represent the peaceful or prosperous years of Israel. The years of unrest or occupation by enemies are not included in this count. The problem is that many researchers fail to consider this and rely only on surface information without thoroughly cross-referencing the Bible. The years of enemy occupation are excluded from their calculations.
The peaceful years total 480, broken down as follows: 40 years for Moses and the wilderness, 12 years for Joshua (though not directly mentioned in the Bible, these can be cross-referenced), 17 years for the Elders, 40 years for Othniel, 80 for Ehud and Shamgar, 40 for Deborah and Barak, 40 for Gideon (Yeruba'al), 23 for Tola, 22 for Yair, 6 for Jephthah, 7 for Ibzan, 10 for Elon, 8 for Abdon, 40 for Eli, 51 for Samuel and Saul combined, 40 for David, and 4 for Solomon until the temple was built. This brings the total to 480 years. The 20 years of Samson are not included, as he did not fully defeat the Philistines.
The years of unrest, or enemy occupation, add up to 134 years: 8 years under Cushan-Rishathaim, 18 under Eglon, 20 under Yabin, 7 under Midian, 3 under Abimelech, 18 under the Philistines and Ammon, 40 during Philistine occupation (including Samson’s time), and 20 years with the Ark in Kiryath Ye’arim. Adding these 134 years to the 480 peaceful years gives a total of 614 years from the Exodus to the building of the temple.
Additionally, the Bible provides the reigns of each king of Israel, so calculating these timelines shouldn’t be a problem. The Bible even gives us a key reference in 2 Kings 23:29, where King Josiah (Yoshiyahu) went out against Pharaoh Neco/Nekau II (610 BC-)and was killed. This event is crucial for piecing together the timeline. If we properly align all these years, the total from the Exodus to King Josiah is about 1,017 years, which takes us back to around 1626 BC, during the Second Intermediate Period (Dynasties 16/17), not the time of Amenhotep II as some suggest.
Excellent case for biblical accuracy
There are problems with the 18th dynasty Pharaohs (or any other popularly proposed Pharaohs) being the Pharaohs that so many people miss - but ill only just mention 2, which are pivotal and can be proven if the chronological timeline is calculated.
1) If following the 18th Dynasty Pharaoh's then that means that the Egyptian kingdom existed pre-flood which would be impossible.
2)The Pharaoh that tried to kill Moses died only a few years before Moses turned 80 and that very same Pharaoh ruled before the birth of Moses and had to be of age when he made the decree to kill the first borns - if you calculate that means that Pharaoh had to have ruled for 80+ years and prob be plus minus 100 years so only one Pharaoh meets this. That is Pepi II. He ruled for around 94 years and Netjerkare Siptah is the one Moses met and where he experienced the plagues , he ruled for around 2 years though there was another who ruled for 4 years before him - Merenre II.
Just doing these calculation on the chronology this will become evident. And if you move the Pharaohs from the 6th Dynasty to the the time of Moses and the Exodus to 15 Century BC then the earliest rulers will all line up to around the time that Egypt would have been founded / been a kingdom post flood.
Because it's all lies
Because it's all lies
Very good research and very convincing.
this is so fascinating. I’m going to have to watch it again and write it down. It’s amazing thank you so much for this now of course I know being as archaeologist and biblical historian and scholar. You would also know about the work of Jen and Penny, Caldwell and others like them and how they found so many things in that area of median. What would’ve been median at I think it was -I can’t remember the name of the mountain_where they believed it was the real Mount Sinai, which also a World War II pilot flew over and was told not to fly over that anymore and he saw what it looked like on top like something had burned it, but my question for you is about hot sheep Hatshepbut but I understood that they erased every evidence of her because they didn’t really like a female pharaoh.
I am about to start listening to this. From what I have read from historians, the Egyptians did not document any history that made them look weak.
That is correct.
@@kevinkleinsasser9387Based on…?
@@steveOCalley Based on known fact and history.
@@kevinkleinsasser9387How do I know you’re not completely fabricated this tale?
@stevevaughn8428 I'm not. I get it from historians. But don't ask me for names. If I see a subject I'm interested in on RUclips or wherever, I have a listen or read.
Wow! Fascinating storytelling. You could visualize everything he said, and it brought so many answers to questions.
First admit everyone was black and then you will be able to move forward with an honest conversation
@@daharris41 who cares if they were black, white, Indian, or whatever race?
@@mohammedsuleman580 apparently I do
@@daharris41 get this poison out of your system, it will keep you out of the kingdom of God
Will there be a link to the fully interview??
This is the full interview 👍
Thanks!!
The "experts" are tied into Champollion’s chronology which is incorrect. Therefore, they find no evidence that fits that time line. However, David Rohl has developed an evidence-based timeline that resolves a lot of timeline issues and places the Israelites in and at the time of Avaris & it was abandoned just prior to the unopposed Hyksos invasion & subsequent Hyksos dynasty. That places the Exodus concurrent with the fall of the Canaanite cities, including Jericho.
Is he correct? Well, I don’t know. I think he admits he probably hasn’t got everything correct, but he has proposed it for examination & discussion, with a view to further modification to see if it truly can stand up. However most just want to tear him down with personal attacks & assaults on his professional integrity. Well, that isn’t scholarship is it and it tells me they can find no real evidence-based objections to his chronology, if they could, they would state them, instead they engage in personal attacks. There are 2 other major chronologies to consider though & while I find the subject interesting, I am certainly not a scholar on the subject.
Sometimes I wonder if these “professional” Archaeologists just want to please certain political & religious factions in the region to secure archaeological permits.
عزيزي السجلات المصريه لايوجد فيها اي شيء عن موسي او يوسف التاريخ المصري سجل كل شيء عن حياه الاجداد اكلهم وملابسهم واحزانهم وافراحهم وحروبهم والوقت الصعب والثورات لكن لايوجد اي كتابه عن موسي موسي لم يكن في مصر الكتاب المقدس ليس دقيق هو حكي اشياء ليست حقيقيه
@@ibrahimelmasry-z3k There's evidence they just want to deny it
@@bryonstevenson1084Who are They?
@@steveOCalley Again Try a guy named Josephus, Pliny the younger etc start there .
@@bryonstevenson1084so Flavius Josephus and Pliny the Younger wrote that there was no Moses or Jesus? Where? Huh?😊
In the early 2000s a guy who determined that archeologists had the time frames wrong actually found Joseph and his families tombs,which were separate from other Egyptians.
Fantastic thanks ❤
I'm so grateful for this channel, now I can go back and read with a better understanding of God's word. Thanks so much for sharing. God continue to bless this channel.
They were not white. Ancient Egyptians were black Africans
😂 exactly!!! Some how he began to ramble about black history and culture without stating the obvious ....that they were Black .. 😂😂 I know that was tough to do for the whole interview lol
The whole time I’m just like “look at this white man talk about our history” 😂
Ramesses had red hair
@@skunkape5918 -just google’Africans with red hair’ but that’s not the point.The point is that dyeing hair red is an African culture found throughout Africa.it’s common among Ethiopians,Eritreans,Somalis,the Masai of Kenya etc.
You'll be silly to take this as completely truth.
I been watching this guys videos for a few days and i just thought " my God, he lays out what i know to be true telescoping history and the bible so that each backs the other perfectly." I dont say my God in a blasphemous way as i was truly speaking to my God who he is also speaking of. As a bible lover and history lover, this man is a treasure vault of information.
They're called the pyramids now but what were they called before that?
Good question
And why is there no mention of pyramids or the sphinx in the Bible account of Moses
@@nobarakugisaki356why would there be? They were ancient at the time
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"Lords of Avaris" by Daivd Rohl, is a very good book to read. Mr. Rohl has produced a "shorten" Chronology...and it is interesting how much aligns with the Biblical Record. Also, he presents the idea that, many "kings" were kings of regions within Upper & Lower Egypt. The Bible states more than once that Hebron was built 7 years before Zoan in Egypt.
A fascinating watch is "Patterns of Evidence. Exodus"
Explain why before I rent it? Is ameniII implicated as the pharaoh of the exodus?
@@jbw3 The ‘early’ chronology is presented most expertly in it. The technology is very important in trying to work out who is the Exodus king was.
What a fantastic presentation. Particularly your dating back from the historical Solomon to the time of the Pharaoh of Exodus. Your established chronology and events pointing to them certainly builds a case. Thank you very much.
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My people will perish for lack of knowledge
Forgive them, for they do not know
This is fascinating... I see so many prophetic coincidences for proof that God exists. So much adds up, it's like a puzzle. Symbols and meanings of names. For example he mentioned Habarew (spell check) = Hebrew meant to the Egyptians, Vagabond, Nomad, or Wanderers. These were also the characteristics of many of the Hebrews (including Moses). How about the very name of Moses, it has two meanings (1) Pull out or draw out. (2) It also means son (Egyptian). Obviously, everything was according to plan... It was destiny. (Jeremiah 1:5) God says, “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you; before you were born, I sanctified you; and I ordained you a prophet to the nations.” Fascinating, just fascinating.
Wow, you should be a judge in a court of law. Genius level of intellect.
fascinating indeed, problem is how do you know it was god who spoke those words.
@@Jenigami You wanna know what else is fascinating? God is a spirit and we are made in His likeness. Moreover, for us to communicate or have fellowship with Him, He has to reveal Himself to us. However, we can seek Him out and when we do, He reveals Himself. Ask God to prove Himself to you and He will. " You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart." (Jeremiah 29:13). No one can ever say that they have sought God and He didn't reveal Himself. If they do, it would be because they didn't do it with their heart (intentionally and sincerely). Remember, it has to be with your heart that God will respond. In the end, this is how He will judge us. It's all beginning to make sense. Yes, this is fascinating.
Do we agree that Jesus was brown skinned ⁉️
Of course he was. So were 90% (or more) of the rest of the people from that area. Whoever argues this fact is blind or doesn’t know how to read!!!
Like any other Middle Easterner and the color most of the world while population today. Because we all come from 2 humans Adam and Eve.
Mary would have to have been brown. What was king David's color? Maybe somewhere along the way there was an intermarriage that resulted into Mary's family being brown. Or just one of her parents. Then Jesus would be brown. Jess are not brown generally. Soooo 95% no
Even then. The information is unimportant
Most likely yup. One thing we are 99.9% he was not white lol
I recommend “Patterns of Evidence” film series on the Israelites in Egypt and the Exodus and journey to Mount Sinai
The ancient Hebrew's were never slaves in ancient Egypt/Kush
It would be incorrect to say the word "Pharaoh" at this supposed Hyksos time (which I am not against ie I don't deny that P. Joseph was at the time of the Hyksos)
Simply because the term Pharaoh only began to be used as reference to the king himself and not the whole Palace, starting from Akhnaten (19th dynasty)
While previously it the original word Pharaoh which is "Pr aA" was only used in courtiers' titles and nothing else, referring to the High Palace. because Pr aA originally meant the high palace or the great palace.
So the Bible got the naming wrong. it should have been king.
Also if the speaker in this video 9:22 supposed that the king was not a Polytheist or adopted the ancient Egyptian belief, then the least thing he should do is not to call himself Pharaoh.
Coz the term itself is liked with creed and the creed of the other Pharaohs including The Pharaoh of Moses. & hence the term "Pharaonic" is now used.
The Quoran Got it right. It's written "king" during the time of Joseph.
Also another correction to a laughable mistake: The MerenPtah Stele does not say the Nation of Israel it mentions a list of nations indicated by their names followed by a determinative sign describing the names as Nations or countries, BUT when it came to the word Israel it does Not have this determinative , and it has another one which is used for "people" so it means Israelites Not the Nation or country of Israel in any way shape or form. + MerenPtah was mentioning those Nations & made an exception to the Israelites which is not writing the "foreign land sign" determinative, but instead wrote the "People sign" (which is a sitting man nest to a sitting woman in addition to the III 3 stick for plural) so it can be interpreted as Nomads or people without a specific land.
The Quran got it right? The Jewish scriptures are at least in the BC years 😂😂😂 someone writing 2000 yrs later is not the authority on this
This is amazing information. Thank you.
My question is how do you have a mummy of a pharaoh who the Bible says drowned in the Red Sea?
the more i research this topic ,the more am skeptical i become! are they talking about religion or History ?
@@khutsolewela2864 both. History is just what has been recorded from the past. Religion is about belief. Religions are historically recorded. It is amazing what was recorded in the Bible.
Why didn't the writers of the Bible mention the Hyksos which were known in history? Who were the writers of these stories
One question I've heard is, "Why aren't the pyramids mentioned in the Bible, especially if they were built (at least in part) by Israelite slaves?"
Great question!!! And it is!!! Check out the pyramid of Saqqara. It is a pyramid which was used for MASS GRAIN storage. Check out Josephs story in the bible and youll join the dots. Ron Wyatt also disovered the chariots underwater and the true Mt Sinai ,AKA Jebel Al Lawz (does the word "Lawz" remind you of anything?). Now look at where the 'top experts' believe mt sinai to be and i will let you decide for yourself.
They were not built by Hebrew slaves. They are hundreds of years earlier
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because they are only recording what is favorable to them
@@Jenigami Thank you! Well said!🙌🏿
The Pharaoh of the Exodus was the Pharaoh Seqenenre Tao II. There is an entire documentary based on it called "The Exodus Decoded". It's an excellent video if you have the time to watch it.
minute 19:11 tp 19:53 does not make sense because the 10th plague happened after Moses confronted Pharaoh. And the first born son would have been the first born of the Pharaoh that Moses encountered not the second born son. Please explain
Normally the first born son becomes Pharaoh. However there is archeological evidence that the firstborn son of Thutmoses III died in his teens. Therefore the second born son Amenotep II was made king. And Amenotep II's firstborn son also died early, which means that if Amenotep II was Pharaoh at the time of the Exodus, he would not have died with the firstborn at the 10th plague. But his son would have died, causing the second born son to be the next Pharoah. Hopefully that clears up what this guy is saying a little better.
@@b_korthuis ah thanks Brian but in the video it was mentioned that first born died in the 10 plagues. Thats what got me confused
@@selpingos
"... in the video it was mentioned that first born died in the 10 plagues."
No, that wasn't said. Yes, if you don't listen closely you could easily think that (as I did), but listening again, that's not what he said.
He said that _if_ Thutmoses III's firstborn became pharaoh, he _would have_ died in the plague, but he didn't die in the plague, so we can conclude that Amenhotep II was not the first born. Which it turns out, was the case.
And Amenhotep II's first born son did not inherit the throne and could have died in the 10th plague.
The Egyptians not mentioning millions of Hebrew slaves is like American plantation owners not mentioning all the slaves they owned.
Only 2% of Caucasian in America owned slaves
Everything fits with the Bible if you view it in the right way.
(03 September 2024) How does one identify the Egyptian and Biblical Context of the Exodus?
Note the events appearing in the Bible's Exodus then see if there is in Egyptian Annals a parallel.
If a parallel is found, then we have a match-up between Egypt and the Bible.
Bible Events:
(1) A large group of non-Egyptians is expelled from Egypt.
(2) This group is residing in Goshen, the north eastern Delta.
(3) This group is headed for Canaan upon being expelled.
(4) Pharaoh changes his mind and pursues after Israel.
(5) Pharaoh catches up with Israel.
(6) A battle ensues between Pharaoh and Israel.
Egyptian parallels:
(1) Pharaoh Ahmose I expels thousands of Asiatic Hyksos from Egypt ca. 1550 BC.
(2) Hyksos are concentrated at Avaris in northeastern Delta (the Bible's Goshen).
(3) Hyksos return to their homeland, Syria/Canaan.
(4) Ahmose I changes his mind and pursues after the Hyksos.
(5) Ahmose catches up with the Hyksos.
(6) Ahmose engages the Hyksos in a battle near Gaza at Sharuhen.
THE KEY EVENT FOR ME:
(4) PHARAOH CHANGING HIS MIND AND PURSUING ISRAEL AFTER SHE HAS LEFT EGYPT
IS MET WITH AHMOSE CHASING AFTER THE HYKSOS WHILE THEY RETURN TO CANAAN.
The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus (ca. 70 AD) in his History of the Jews opined that Manetho's mention of a Hyksos Expulsion was probably the Egyptian version of Israel's Exodus under Moses.
I understand that Josephus was right, because of the above "match-ups" in the Egyptian annals of Pharaoh Ahmose I.
Recently, Professor Donald B. Redford , an Egyptologist, opined that the Hyksos Expulsion was what was behind Israel's Exodus (cf. pp. 412-413. Egypt, Canaan, and Israel in Ancient Times. Princeton University Press. 1992.
pp.412-413
"There is only one chain of historical events that can accommodate this late tradition, and that is the Hyksos descent and occupation of Egypt...in fact it is in the Exodus account that we are confronted with the Canaanite version of this event...In sum, therefore, we may state that the memory of the Hyksos expulsion did indeed live on in the folklore of the Canaanite population..."
Not true: The unbroken African Kings list never shows any Nysut Bty (Pharaoh) who was drowned. The Israelite Stele is of misread and Hyksos means foreign rulers not a group of Hebrews. Slaves never built anything in Kemet (Egypt) this was a natural building project actually recorded. We can actually read the Mdw Ntr (Ancient African Hieroglyphs.) So-called Hebrews wrote themselves into African history much later..
"The unbroken African Kings list never shows any Nysut Bty (Pharaoh) who was drowned."
Given that neither this video nor the Bible claims that one was, what's your point?
"Slaves never built anything in Kemet..."
Again, who claimed that they did? The claim is that they made bricks, not that they built things with them.
"So-called Hebrews wrote themselves into African history much later.."
No, the Bible is a record from the time.
So where in Exodus is the name of the ruler that Moses know personally in the Egyptian court? We got Egyptian texts of Paid sick days and physicians at work: ancient Egyptians had state supported health care but who care about the Egyptian texts?
Invite esteemed author Anthony T. Browder on your show to discuss Egypt. If you want a real scholar on the subject of Egypt invite Anthony T. Browder.
Nah he's off too. Invite Ralph Ellis instead
@@idread3523 Tony Browder has been study Egypt all of his life. Tony Browder has been excavating in Egypt for about 50 years. You can say whatever kind of foolishness you want to but Tony Browder is supremely qualified to teach, lecture and discuss the Nile Valley region of Africa.
@@calmdown2876 - I'm specifically talking about the bible and Egypt and I don't believe Tony would be correct because his point of view would be off. I've read many of Tony's books.
Been it comes to specifically Egypt and the A bible, I stick to Ralph Ellis. Check out his lectures on here. That's all I'm saying
@@idread3523 The Bible has been tempered with by europeans who were atheist. The bible has been messed up every since europeans got their hands on it. You cannot go by the bible in it's current revised editions. King James was literally an atheist and mentally unstable. Tony Browder's work on Egypt and the Nile Valley is accurate. I have the blood of The Pharaohs running though my veins. I am not kidding.
I just love how God has left "Easter eggs" as the idiom is translated.
The real Mount Sinai has now been discovered in Arabia. (See Paul’s words in Gal. 4:25) The land of Midian is found on old maps in Northwest Arabia. Jethro the father-in-law of Moses was a priest of "Midian". Did the name "Moses" come from the name of a Pharoah named "Thutmose"? (There are several RUclips videos about the real Mount Sinai in Arabia.)
Recently a small Lead “Curse Tablet” was discovered at Mount Ebal, which proves the Israelites had a written language during the time of Joshua. An Egyptian scarab of a Pharoah was also found at this site.
The Egyptians claimed Mount Sinai was theirs. You're right. I'm gonna do some research on this. thanks.
At that time, Egypt wasn't even called Egypt, to start with...
Outstanding! Thank you 😊
Our family wanted to know this answer as well. We went to Egypt for two weeks and had a PhD in Egyptian history at Cairo University as a guide. He reviewed the history of various events and time periods. Firstly, for the Israelite population to grow as large as stated in the Bible there would have distinct Jewish burial grounds which would have grown to be quite distinctive and large. This burial ground to bury many hundreds of thousand of people over the years just DOESN'T exist. At the reported time of the EXODUS the Nile Delta had about 4 million total inhabitants both Israelite and Egyptians. So the Bible states there were 600,000 military aged men along with their parents, spouses, children which would bring the total of roughly 2 to 2.5 million people moving from Egypt. That leaves a remaining 1.5 to 2 million Egyptians remaining about half the population. The elimination of half the population would have collapsed the Egyptian economy into complete failure. For sure we know much about this period in Egyptian history and NOTHING has been written detailing these events AT ALL. We believe that to completely ignore the Exodus story is probably overly cynical but nothing as described in the bible took place. Maybe there was an Exodus of a much reduced number of people but that can't be proven either. In conclusion, based on first hand exploration in Egypt we can not substantiate the Exodus event as described in the Bible. Not looking to get people upset but we went there and saw with our own eyes.
I would recommend reading this article written by Gary Bates, "Egyptian chronology and the Bible" - creation.com/egypt-chronology
Gary not only has done extensive research in this area, he has also led multiple Egypt tours, focusing on Egyptian history and the Bible.
You're information is inaccurate. Unreliable source
I don't have a dog in this debate, but I am wondering at the comment, "This burial ground to bury many hundreds of thousand of people over the years just DOESN'T exist. "
Does there exist burial grounds for ANY Egypt commoners...ie NOT leaders/pharaohs/priests/etc.? I really don't know. I did some searching and found nothing. But why would we expect to see evidence of the cemetaries/burial places of slaves if we don't see burial places for other peasants, commoners, etc?
@@fordprefect5304 "Archeologists have found Cemetaries around the pyramids. Workers that were well taken care of. Not slaves."
But the topic is the Israelites who WERE supposedly slaves, right?
Excellent.
Also to add I believe the oldest pyramid in saqqara is legit called the pyramid of djoser is where the grain from the 7 yrs of good was stored for the 7 yrs of famon ... Which was Joseph's idea after he translated the Pharos dream
Wonderful!!
I'm just a regular person and I went down the rabbit holes and came up with all this same information, just like the man speaking. Once you know, you know.
The bible is true.
Then quran is True Torah is True every religious book is True
@@prasanthyerramsetti9257 Not so mate.
@@TheBillABCTV this is called hippocracy... Bible is just history of Israelis not that you think religious book... It's just history of jews nothing to do with other countries... There is no phylosophy
@@TheBillABCTVThe Bible is fiction.
@@prasanthyerramsetti9257 Mohammad was a false prophets
This was a great interview!📖✝️🌹
Amen 🙏 God bless you
He said Amenhotep 11 mummy is on display, so he was recovered from the Red sea while he wore gold, the would have sunk like a big rock. He is leaving out so much that cannot be explained.
GOD IS ALIVE FOREVERMORE & HE is working in HISTORY... his explainaripn MAKES SENSE and ACCURATE... history is GOD'S footprints not in the sand...but in human civilization... GOD has SPOKEN thru this VIDEO!
there is no god in the bible
Where and when can we get a part two of this
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What exciting plot! God actually brought in a Hyksos pharaoh to allow Joseph and Hebrews to flourish in Egypt and then the native Egyptians kings took over resulting in the exodus, and all the while shaping the people of Israel to trust Yahweh. The native Egyptian stepmother though is a true gem of a person and also the possibility that the 'heretic' king was actually singing praises to a monitheistic god
With regards to the apparent mispronunciation of the early Egyptians identifying the people conquering the surrounding provinces as Abrews or Habrews I believe is actually accurate and not a nick name as Gary suggests.
There's some evidence & some that believe that earlier Hebrew dialects had no e-sound and was a later addition. Thus it's entirely possible that the Egyptians merely called the Hebrews what they called themselves nl. HABROOS (עִברִית). Even now, the spelling stays exactly the same regardless of pronuncing the he- or ha- sound which is otherwise determined by the context...
If the pharaoh in Genesis 41 was Hyksos, he might as well have believed in some Canaanite polytheistic pantheon such as the storm god Baal. The God in Genesis 41:38 in the original Hebrew was written as Elohim. Did the pharaoh a Hyksos really recognize the deity monotheistically?
The real question to ask is: who became the Pharaoh after the Exodus. The Exodus Pharaoh, his Court & army drowned, his son & heir was dead, the Queen was alone, who became King and was that King in the line of the 19th dynasty? It is recorded she sent to the Hittites for a husband to produce an heir.
My question is if I want to research Egyptian history why would I start with the Bible as it’s not a Egyptian book and there are histories that far predate the Bible or Dead Sea scrolls it was taken from. Can someone reconcile that to me
So the learned gentleman is confident that Amenhotep II did not drown with his army in the red sea 🤔
It is a common misconception that the pharaoh of the Exodus drowned with his army in the Red Sea, but the Bible does not actually say this:
So Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and the sea returned to its normal course when the morning appeared. And as the Egyptians fled into it, the Lord threw the Egyptians into the midst of the sea. The waters returned and covered the chariots and the horsemen; of all the host of Pharaoh that had followed them into the sea, not one of them remained (Exodus 14:27).
Note that it is Pharaoh’s army that drowned. Psalm 106:11 is often cited as a proof text that Pharaoh also died in the Red Sea. It says:
And the waters covered their adversaries; not one of them was left.
Again, Pharaoh is not mentioned, and it appears that this is simply referring only to those who were pursuing the Hebrews. Similarly, Psalm 136:15 says:
but [God] overthrew Pharaoh and his host in the Red Sea, for his steadfast love endures forever.
Petrovich writes:
A cursory reading of the text leads most to believe that because God “overthrew” Pharaoh and his army, both parties must have died. However, the Hebrew verb נער (n’r, “he shook off”) shows that God actually ‘shook off’ the powerful pharaoh and his army, who were bothersome pests that God-whose might is far greater than theirs-merely brushed away. The same Hebrew verb is used in Psalm 109:23, where David laments, “I am gone like a shadow when it lengthens; I am shaken off like the locust.
Excerpt from: Egypt and the Short Sojourn Part 2: Historical support - creation.com/short-sojourn-part-2
Actually according to Bible there was a King of Salem who was a priest of the Most High Elohim. So the Egyptians would have also known who The Most High Elohim. Remember Abraham went into Egypt too.
The mud bricks weren't used to build the solid stone pyramids. The brick built constructions are mostly gone or are a heap of mud.
The first major construction after the flood at Babel caused god some concern, despite them using 'brick for stone'. So the stone ones were pre-flood.
Of the tower/ziggurat/pyramid, the Lord said "Behold, this is only the beginning of what they will do. And nothing that they propose to do will now be impossible for them"
Doesn't sound like they were building a tomb
Happy Passover have a great holiday of liberation . Thank you for this amazing interview. And spreading light on the truth of this story.
חג פסח שמח ❤️
This man discredited himself when he said the pyramids were made to be tombs....
Unfortunately, no bodies/mummies or burial artifacts were ever found in the pyramids....
Let me guess, they're landing platforms for spaceships?
@@cosmictreason2242 I don't think so... Unfortunately there is no evidence on what they were used for, only theories. But we do know they weren't used for burial purposes.
@@TripSmithpossibly used for communication, like Teslas towers or they were just architectural displays of power. Irregardless the Pyramids are amazing.
Interestingly, the Biblical account of Joseph and the seven years of famine seems to confirm that the Pharaoh at the time of was not Egyptian. As I recall...as things got worse in those seven years, Joseph began selling for money food stored during the proceeding seven years of plenty. When the people ran out of money Joseph had the people selling their possessions and finally they sold themselves into slavery rather than die. In this way the Pharaoh of Egypt wound up owning everything (but that owned by the religious class?). As the Pharaoh would have historically owned all of the land in Egypt to begin with, why would the Bible suggest that all the land, the people and their possessions were conferred to him in business transactions for food?.
I just moved home to pay off debt over the next year. I gave up a good job to do so and I’m now living in a small town far from the beach in the cold but it’s just for a year and I’ll be better off for it.
Appreciate how the interviewer cathches up
Another biblical channel tailored to meet the expectations of believers...
1Chronicles 4:18 ".... These were the children of Pharaoh’s daughter Bithiah, whom Mered had married." Bithiah has been held as the daughter of Pharaoh who drew Moses out of the Nile. What do you think?
Oh my, so much info on Israel being in Egypt! I don't know if brother Bates mentioned it but did the Exodus occur in the Egyptian Middle Kingdom? There is another ministry that has produced films on the Exodus and whether Moses had a simple alphabet to write the Torah. The films are entitled Patterns of Evidence produced by Tim Mahoney.
CMI knows Tim very well. If you watch the full video your question is answered. New Kingdom, 18th Dynasty.
@@bibbulmun777 Thank you, did not catch it even though I watched the entire video.
Do not forget, the main economic source were spice and gold from Indonesian. India is closer to Indonesian. It can be said that Indonesia is India extension at that time to show how strong their trade and wealth.
That type of trading with sub continent counties only occurred much later in Egyptology history... actually closer to the Roman times. They've found ship manifests that detail this.