Or the cosmos was not created, and the cosmos always existed. Because our brains can't comprehend that, they come up with invisible men in the sky to worship
@@mike8984ifyGod said that he always existed, I wasn’t there to confirm that, but there is evidence that God spoke truth to people who wrote down prophecies and history.
God is just like us he has a mother and father. We're not Pinocchio. Neither is God . Geppetto didn't make us or God a pet or slave. Man being created is symbolism let me prove it . Luke chapter 3 has the genealogy of Jesus let me just post the end of the genealogy Luke 3 38 kjv wich was the son of Enos wich was the son of Seth wich was the son of Adam wich was the son of God. .. ah thete we go God is our grandfather. Need more convincing? Psalms 82 kjv God standeth in the congregation of the mighty he judgeth umong the gods 6 I have said ye are little gods children of the most high. .... Roman's 8 16 kjv the Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirits that we are children of God. ... now I hope you don't try to tell us the Holy Spirit is lying to us about this . .so we have both Jesus and the holy spirt telling us we're children of God . 1st corinthians 15 kjv 37 and that wich though soweth thow soweth not that body wich shall be but bare grain it may be chance of wheat or if some other grain 38 but God giveth it a body as it has pleased him to every Seed his OWN Seed . ... We have God's seed we're not created. And if you didn't get the vs if you plant say wheat do you sometimes get a different grain like rye ? Now you might want to read the chapter slowly you should find God is earthly and has a body . Just incase you miss it ill give you a 2end scripture showing God isn't a spirit Mathew 16 15 he saieth unto them but whom say ye that I am 16 and Simon petter answered and said thou art the Christ the son of the Living God. ... living not a ghost . Now I could post stuff from John 5 but thos should do .
Just like anyone that thinks "the cosmos has always existed" hasn't had the cosmos properly explained to them, which gets rid of any reason to posit an eternal god.
@@mike8984ify The cosmos is not properly understood and has many phenomena that puzzle scientists, it is mostly theory with lots of assumption and science has verified the universe is incredibly fine tuned for life. We have math which is an abstract concept and can only reside in a mind, before life existed the universe had precise mathematical laws, where did these laws that require a complex understanding of math come from without a mind to comprehend them? That's right GOD.
the only reason athiests ever ask the question is in response to christians asserting that everything has to have a creator. So, an athiest will respond "if everything has a creator, who created god"?
Exactly, something even greater than god MUST therefore exist. Nothing eternal (god) can exist without being created by something that exists outside of eternity. Don't worry that your can't comprehend that, it's just a limitation of your mind, you just have to accept that it is true - because 'there is no other explanation' (I'm just applying christian logic)
@@mantralibre1367 that’s called special pleading, ie to posit something that explains some quandary by just saying it solves it but without any explanation of the kind you might ask of the naturalist who says that the natural world possesses all the things needed to explain what we are aware of.
On what logical ground would you argue that finite creatures could possibly know and completely understand everything there is to know about an infinite being?
Thank you Father in heaven for blessing us with people like Don. His answers to difficult questions are some of the simplest I’ve heard. In a good way. I’ve gone so far as to write these down so if I’ve ever encounter a sceptic I have the confidence and faith to respond…which is not always easy.
Love personified??? He says we MUST love him otherwise we burn in fire for eternity. WTF kind of love is that? It's like a jealous boyfriend saying, "I love you but if you leave me for someone else, I will kill you".
@@adelinomorte7421 absolutely. Or it could be the contrary. However the hegemonic one would be a qualitative being, say - spiritual, in which the other is.
@@mantralibre1367 Who cares? Why does it even matter? Believers think they're right with no proof. Atheist think they're right trying to leverage things like science, which also is not 100% proof(although it's premise is much more believable). There will never be a 100% proven without a doubt answer.
God created Adam and Eve. God created the tree of knowledge of good and evil. God created a talking lying snake. The talking lying snake lies to Eve. Eve hasn't eaten from the tree when the snake lies to her. Eve does not know what evil is until after she eats from the tree. Is lying evil?
The question how do you know the Christian God is the right God? Answer …prophecy God declares the end from the beginning so that when it comes to pass you know He is God. Time space and matter are tied together. God progressively reveals Himself in His word proving He is the first cause and transcends the material world. Observation of the material world will give you general revelation and points to His attributes, but it’s prophecy the gives special Revelation.
Isaiah 53 prophecy of Jesus Christ and His death on the cross , it was fulfilled you should open the bible and read Isaiah chapter 53 for your self then read the gospels and see how the events unfold . @@Bill_Garthright
Reveals himself? When, where? A bunch of obscure signs that some interpret as miracles. Why would he just not reveal himself so there is no mystery? I know, for true believers there is no mystery but for people with half a brain, belief in something without demonstrable proof is just stupid.
@@ddpeter4444Au contraire belief or faith in something you can't see doesn't make it untrue Have you ever seen subatomic matter? Just because you can't see God doesn't mean that He isn't real I know He's real changed my life and answers prayers
@@cathy7382 Faith in something you cannot see is illogical. I agree, I have not seen subatomic particles, but I trust science. I have never seen a flying spaghetti monster, so does it make sense to believe that one exists. I have no evidence of either. Please tell me what evidence you have that God exists other than your feelings. Real evidence does not exist.
@@ddpeter4444 just look around at the wonderful works that God has created if there's a building someone had to make it a painting is made by an artist All I know is God drastically changed my life, it's not a matter of feelings
Who Created God? Actually, one can say God Created God! "You must be kidding," you might say! Well, but you see, the question doesn't make any sense at all. Only the atheists ask such a gotcha question. Even scientists believe through the concept of big-bang that something bang in the very beginning. In fact, the noise of the bang has been so loud and disturbing that we eventually invented very efficient soundproof gadgets to protect our hearing. So, you see, there was a beginning. Consequently, the question should not be Who Created God, rather the more appropriate question is; What was God Doing Before the Beginning? My humble opinion is that He was thinking, making plans about his future creation, and gathering all the material that he was going to bang... This back-and-forth conversation between these two world class scientists has been a delight for me to watch and listen. Sincere thanks.
Still no proof of god..I love how some humans think they got it all figured out and know for a fact there is a god. I think it’s just fear of death…and hey that’s ok 👍
@11:29 - the Psalmists do talk about how "the heavens declare the glory of the LORD" and it is mistranslated 'universe' to promote the heliocentric model. The word 'heavens' is not synonymous with the word 'universe'. In prior translations it reads, "the firmament declares God's handiwork" but more of the argument here is that the sun, if a hydrogen ball of gasses burning for millennia, has been burning long before the earth was formed by gravitational forces and elements colliding, but God explains that the sun is a light placed in the firmament long after the earth was established, then how can you reconcile the rest of the Bible as truth if you reject the "beginning".
Genesis 1:1- in the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth.. Aeons after.. Genesis 1:2- and the world was void and without form bringing a recreation.. What happened during those Aeons and who inhabited the earth in this time as humanity is only 6000+. Why did God tell Adam to replenish the earth? Do you replenish a new thing? Did something happen to the old creation before God stated a new one? How long did it take for the gases to form? Remember, God is eternal, 1000 years is like a day before Him. The Bible is a book of mysteries and life concealed by God for those filled with the Holy Spirit to search the hidden things of God. Even science is a search of the hidden concealed things of God, if only they did it while acknowledging the creator 😂. God is The Great Unapproachable Light and the world was created out of that Great Light for a purpose( the pleasure of God), not some random Big Bang. Sometimes your foolishness may just be pleasure in the spirit realm, but God is willing to show these things to those who willingly come to Him in Spirit and Truth through Jesus Christ His first begotten Son.. SHALOM🕊
They just say it's metaphorical. But I don't know why the order in which things come about is part of the metaphor. Meaning, if the order was changed to sun was created then the earth does the metaphor fall apart?
This is what I love about atheists and evolution lovers, they won't accept that life was created but always question who created your god. In this realm God created, everything needs a beginning, this is what we always observe and we are bound by this law that things need to be created. God is outside of this and has always existed. God is powerful beyond our understanding, his perceptions are limitless and because of this time is different for God, in a single second he can have more thoughts than every person who has ever lived or will live. He is beyond human comprehension and no matter how advanced our technologies become we can never know his greatness.
Man, the reason is pretty simple. First: you have evidence of the cosmos - and logic says that the cosmos IS everything. It's quantic, as we now know. You don't have evidence of "god ". Second: the act of creating something implies the fact that space and time exist, and that you live in a space and time. Hence, if this universe was created it was not by a god, it would be a sort of simulation.
We probably are in a simulation created by futuristic Aliens has metaphysical powers that defies the law of physics we are in the game so we are not able to see the realm beyond and we can’t comprehend what is out there with our primitive mind.
It is said by some, that time is eternal. However, those that say "who created God" are admitting to us that they themselves know that they are created. This means that they understand intuitively, that time is not eternal. (Psalm 102:26; Isaiah 51:6; 2 Peter 3:10; Matthew 5:18; Hebrews 12:27) Time has a beginning and an end. Therefore, since we are a creation, are ability to understand God's eternal nature is inconceivable. Job 11:7 “Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty?
My toughest question as a Theist is that, why is it that outside time and space and matter, the default is there is an eternal God? Where he came from and how did he come into existence.
That "Default" is instilled in most from childhood. It's also instilled to never put that default to any doubt or question. But we humans are a naturally curious species. So when we are told to not even dare ask questions about things once thought to be infallible. We take that as a green light to question. Think of this thought. It may be so that this Universe does have a creator source. The issues is the identity of said creator source. It might not be what most expect.
A segment from 'Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within'... My new understandings of what many call 'God -The Holy Spirit' - resulting from some of the extraordinary ongoing after-effects relating to my NDE... Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what some scientists are now referring to as the unified field of consciousnesses. In other words, it’s the essence of all existence and non-existence - the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the actual creator of everything that exists now, ever existed in the past, or will exist in the future - right down to the minutest particles of dust - each being an individual ripple or wave. The big difference between chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of inner enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves. That’s because chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo allows us to tap directly into our enlightened state by way of this self-produced sound vibration. ‘Who or What Is God?’ If we compare the concept of God being a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to the teachings of Nichiren, it makes more sense to me that the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people perceive to be God, is the fantastic state of enlightenment that exists within each of us. Some say that God is an entity that’s beyond physical matter - I think that the vast amount of information continuously being conveyed via electromagnetic waves in today’s world gives us proof of how an invisible state of God could indeed exist. For example, it’s now widely known that specific data relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects - including an instant global awareness of something or a mass emotional reaction. It’s also common knowledge that these invisible waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars - none of which is possible without a receiver to decode the information that’s being transmitted. Without the receiver, the data would remain impotent. In a very similar way, we need to have our own ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our own life, all other life and what everything else in existence is. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach the core of our enlightenment and keep it switched on. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what scientists now refer to as the unified field of consciousnesses. To break it down - Myoho represents the Law of manifestation and latency (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. For example, the state of Myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists - including our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them - our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re dormant - our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma - and more importantly, our enlightenment. The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes evident to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory - whenever we experience or express our emotions - or whenever a good or bad cause manifests as an effect from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it merely means that it’s come out of the state of Myo (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing. The second law - Renge - Ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect, governs and controls the functions of Myoho - these two laws of Myoho and Renge, not only function together simultaneously but also underlies all spiritual and physical existence. The final and third part of the tri-combination - Kyo, is the Law that allows Myoho to integrate with Renge - or vice versa. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects all Life and matter - as well as the past, present and future. It’s also sometimes termed the Universal Law of Communication - perhaps it could even be compared with the string theory that many scientists now suspect exists. Just as the cells in our body, our thoughts, feelings and everything else is continually fluctuating within us - all that exists in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux - constantly controlled by these three fundamental laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of Myo and ho in a single moment than it would ever be possible to calculate or describe. And it doesn’t matter how big or small, famous or trivial anything or anyone may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past, exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of the Laws ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ - the basis of the four fundamental forces, and if they didn’t function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. That’s because all forms of existence, including the seasons, day, night, birth, death and so on, are moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation - rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two fundamental states of Myo and ho in absolute accordance with Renge - and by way of Kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn under the workings of what the combination ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ represents. Nam, or Namu - which mean the same thing, are vibrational passwords or keys that allow us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’. On a more personal level, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives - as well as the environment from moment to moment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is spinning, and chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for a minimum of, let’s say, ten minutes daily to start with, any of us can experience actual proof of its positive effects in our lives - even if it only makes us feel good on the inside, there will be a definite positive effect. That’s because we’re able to pierce through the thickest layers of our karma and activate our inherent Buddha Nature (our enlightened state). By so doing, we’re then able to bring forth the wisdom and good fortune that we need to challenge, overcome and change our adverse circumstances - turn them into positive ones - or manifest and gain even greater fulfilment in our daily lives from our accumulated good karma. This also allows us to bring forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that’s preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we indeed are - regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexuality. We’re also able to see and understand our circumstances and the environment far more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. As I’ve already mentioned, everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect - the ‘actual-proof-strength’ resulting from chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo always depends on our determination, sincerity and dedication. For example, the levels of difference could be compared to making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, producing a great song, and so on. Something else that’s very important to always respect and acknowledge is that the Law (or if you prefer God) is in everyone and everything. NB: There are frightening and disturbing sounds, and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It’s the emotional result of any noise or sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day, we are producing a sound vibration that’s the password to our true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things - such as your fears and desires etc. The best way to get the desired result when chanting is not to view things conventionally - rather than reaching out to an external source, we need to reach into our own lives and bring our needs and desires to fruition from within - including the good fortune and strength to achieve any help that we may need. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo also reaches out externally and draws us towards, or draws towards us, what we need to make us happy from our environment. For example, it helps us to be in the right place at the right time - to make better choices and decisions and so forth. We need to think of it as a seed within us that we’re watering and bringing sunshine to for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s also important to understand that everything we need in life, including the answer to every question and the potential to achieve every dream, already exists within us.
@@tyamada21 You're wasting your time and as a person who has already been warned, your time here is limited. The Creator sent us prophets and messengers and His words of instructions and guidance to ignore any of that is to disbelieve. Get on the path of righteous quickly my brother.
I can't wait to meet God when my time comes. I hope I am on the elevator going up and not the one going down. I can't wait for all the answers to be revealed to me, one miricle at a time. I pray for the atheists and the wicked so that maybe they, too, will be welcomed into heaven and they can share in the knowledge and eternal life. God bless.
@@Sola_Scriptura_1.618 do you also pray for those who despite thinking they are worshipping Jesus will be told he doesn’t recognize them because they didn’t do the will of the father. IOW it’s not the obviously wicked and atheists who are in trouble but anyone who, because they are on the outside, will not understand and will be lost. Wide is the path that leads to destruction and many will follow but narrow is the way to salvation and few will find it. And it’ll be too late to do anything about once you find out.
@rizdekd3912 Do you read scripture? Christ is clear as to what is required for eternal life; we just need to accept his grace. John 3:16. God will judge us according to his expectations of us. He knows what opportunities were provided and how we responded to said opportunities. God is great, God is just.
You can take the hope out of it by believing Jesus Christ died for your sins, repenting for your sins, confessing your faith in Him out loud, and loving and following Him in all you do.
@paulreppenhagen3661 You are 100,000% correct. I am a reformed Catholic and now a full-fledged Christian following Christ. Eternal life is through Christ and Christ alone. His grace is our gift for believing in him. His death was payment for our sins. Studying and reading the Bible is so important to understanding God's word. God bless for your message. P.s. I repent to acknowledge in my sins and meditate to become better. But God's Grace is eternal and washes away all of our sins. Once saved always saved! Even a sinner like me.
@@Sola_Scriptura_1.618 "But God's Grace is eternal and washes away all of our sins. Once saved always saved! Even a sinner like me." Do you claim to never sin now? Or does the Grace automatically and continuously wash away your sins as you commit them. God's grace has to do more than simply wash away the (guilt of the) sins you commit, it has to literally change your person to be redeemed since your carnal natural cannot enter the kingdom of heaven and since the fall, all humans are born sinful. Or don't you agree with that doctrine?
I heard energy you cannot create or destroy? It’s always been there, how can something just be there? Everything we know is created, how come it’s different for god and energy?
Two men come across a painting. Man A says “I wonder who painted this.” Man B says “who says anyone painted it? Maybe paint just collected and formed that beautiful portrait.” Man A says “no, look at the brush strokes and the layout, that suggests intentional design. There had to be a painter.” Man B says “oh yeah? Well if paintings all require a painter, then who painted the painter?” (That’s how illogical it sounds when people ask who made God.)🤦🏻♂️
Oh no, not the watchmaker argument. Q: How do you know when something is designed? (human made object) A: You compare it to something not designed.(nature) Also, if everything requires a 'maker', who made god. There must be a god maker. I wait now for the special pleading argument where will they claim a special exception for god.
@I cannot believe your response. You literally just asked me the question I was addressing in my comment. 🤦🏻♂️. It’s an illogical question. Please reread my comment. You’re just looking to argue and I’m not biting.
@@scottsponaas read the question again. You can't know something is designed unless you compared it to something un-designed. The un-designed thing is nature. What is illogical about this? (except the mental roadblock that religion has put in place)
@@mike8984ify An atheist has to believe all matter came from nothing and complexity beyond human capabilities created itself without the need for intelligent design, which has never ever been observed, highly complex mechanisms utilising purposefully sequenced information ALWAYS necessitates and intelligent mind, atheism requires a special pleading for a mechanism never observed. Considering 'observation' is a massive part of science, this is a huge problem for atheism and requires a suspension of reality, that complexity requires higher and higher levels of intelligent input the more sophistication increases.
@@spamm0145Nope. I'm an atheist and I don't believe all matter came from nothing. So your reply is obviously false. I don't know what "complexity beyond human capabilities" means. Are you familiar with Cellular Automatons? Very simple rules can produce complexity "beyond human capability". Many natural processes are very complex. This doesn't require any design, even if you assert it. I'd love to see your argument for WHY such complexity requires intelligent design, but I know you'll just spout the same nonsense as other theist. Finally, similar to the point of the video, if you're saying that complexity requires design, then who designed God? If you get to say it's just a brute fact that God is complex, then I get to say it's a brute fact that the universe is complex. No free lunches.
Saw the shorts on this , im glad i came to watch the whole interview 🙏 Praise God for your guy's knowledge and Sharing it 🙏 I'll have to watch again to get all the big words used lol God bless 🕊 Yeshua Messiah is Lord 🕊
Creation is beyond our understanding is too advance and complicated I think people wanted to ask how was God born, original and how was he create himself
Look athe beauty of a Verse in Rig Veda Rig Veda Sloka (creation Hymn) 10.129 has the most mesmerizing answer or question! (part of it here) Who really knows? Who will here proclaim it? Whence was it produced? Whence is this creation? The gods came afterwards, with the creation of this universe. (brilliant verse) Who then knows whence it has arisen? .. Whence this creation has arisen - perhaps it formed itself, or perhaps it did not the one who looks down on it, in the highest heaven, only he knows - or perhaps he does not know. (The Ultimate negation here!)
"I don't know" is an intellectually honest answer, unlike "because God". The point is that both positions have a brute fact of "it always existed" at their core, which shows that "God" isn't a better answer.
4:47 - our universe had a beginning, as in space, time and matter seems to have started at the initial point when "the big bang banged". There may or may not be something in the cosmos that sits outside of our universe that works (naturally) different to how space/time/matter physics work.
If it's 'something' and works 'naturally', then, by definition, it is part of the universe. (You've differentiated 'universe' and 'cosmos', but they're the same thing.) However, there is, indeed, more to it that just what is in the physical universe. That is, the realm of the supernatural, which is, by definition, 'other than' the natural realm. God is supernatural. He is a sufficient cause for the entire natural realm.
@@creationministriesintl agree only that using language that speaks of the Space-time universe breaks down at whatever it means before it. But however it works is the bigger container of the cosmos. You can fit your paradoxical god into that as well, you’re just faced with much more work than the smartest minds on the planet. Good luck demonstrating that, especially having to defer to an ancient book instead of the vast array of knowledge that only continues to supplant outdated folklore.
@@kevinrtres - people who came up with it course; the earliest evidence of an astrological significance of a seven-day period is connected to Gudea, the priest-king of Lagash in Sumer during the Gutian dynasty (about 2100 BCE).
First Time as we know it did not exist. Its difficult for our brain to comprehend beyond one dimension of time. John 17 gives us clues. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit were loving each other and glorifying each other. Its a full time job to love the Creator.
The question "who created God?". Now we are told in scripture that "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:" Colossians 1:16. This means God created himself, for "all things were created by him."
Occam would say the cosmos was not created, since you have evidence of the latter, and none of former. It's not that we cannot conceive god. We cannot conceive a "beginning". That's why we make up god.
No! God did not create himself! That's a Paradox you stated. For God to create himself, he would have to pre-exist, be outside of himself - Moreover, created Gods do not exist. Best Answer : Like the bible implies, God existed always and is uncreated. He is eternal, the Beginning and the End - Infinite He is the first cause ! God is a mystery that our finite mind cannot comprehend May be in eternity, (heaven) we could ask God to reveal this mystery
Amazing how easily Christians throw around the terms Eternal and Eternity. If God is eternal, that means he has existed for eternity. If that is the case, then God's existence would never be able to reach the present times, as he would still be in the eternal past, because it has NO beginning. Also, you are saying God has waited an infinite amount of time to create the universe, which makes NO sense at all.
Any discussion about time, and the possibility of being outside of it, is more complicated than most people realise. The topic of God's relationship to time is obviously in this catergory. Well worth a read is: → How does God relate to time? creation.com/god-and-time → Did God create time? creation.com/did-god-create-time
God didn't need time for anything. It was just HIM and the book tells you how He did it. He just DID IT and created time space matter all at the same time. He didn't need any of that to exist. What makes you think God needs time 🤔
You can't have have an "irreducibly complex" argument evolution and the say the most complex thing known to humans was just always there. Didn't learn anything, he always knew everything. Didn't grow in love, he always was love, didn't create power, he just is power. If he was fully formed in all things, what motivated him to create?
Because God is the foundation of all that is. Whatever is the foundation must be eternal or there would be no anything. Its simple logic. The difficult logic is in the identification of this eternal foundation.
@@sunsetman1479 Well, you didn't do a good job demonstrating how it was illogical. Now, I gave you a very very short explanation of the answer but it makes the point and there is nothing illogical about it. I understand that you put your foot in your mouth by saying "Ill wait for an answer" which is "code" for "Ill never get an answer and you all know it," but here I gave you a coherent LOGICAL answer. Just deal with it. Don't just be a denialist.
@@YECBIB Given that evolution hasn't(as of August 2023) been debunked, your argument seems to imply that no one who doubts evolution has any common sense. Which I guess is pretty accurate.
- I AM THAT WHO GOD is what would have so been written in that of Moses' inquiry towards But instead so written I AM THAT I AM If exactly God and so notice a capitalized 'G' and then after small cased 'od' as in that of Elohim
“Who created God” is a contradiction. It assumes God isn’t God because He would have to be made, and if posits a Divine Supreme Being. The question itself makes a claim for an omniscient omnipresent omnipotent God, just not the Christian one…
The question 'Who created god' is not materialist. It's not an atheist question (whatever that means). It s a response to the theist statement that poses as a so called explanation regarding the creation of the universe. When you say 'god'... . you e x p l a i n N O T H I N G. Anymore than a kid that says 'he did it using magic!'. It looks like an answer but it has not explanatory power so answers NOTHING! You still have to explain 'supernatural' and 'eternal'. It 's a classic god of the gaps. I dont know therefore god. That does not logically follow. The bachelor analogy is idiotic. Since the concept of bachelor and 'marriage' is construct that we understand. A timeless, non physical 'God always existed' So what is the answer? Theists you are not going to like that. It requires a lot of humility and certainly no claim that you have a special relationship with the son of the creator of the universe.. WE DONT KNOW!
To add, "Who created God" is not even a valid question since there's no proof of his existence to begin with. We can already prove the universe exists, so why exactly are we adding an extra layer that we can't prove the existence of.. oh yeah, to ease people's minds from the nothingness that comes after death, of course. Like trying to understand how the universe was created wasn't challenging enough, let's also say this intangible figure created it and we have no way to prove it.. how convenient.
Every thing that has a beginning needs to be created, but what makes you assume god is eternal. If the logic is an everything needs a creator, then the creator needs a creator, then its creators all the way down.
I'm not religious and i don't go around raping and killing people. Having good morals is not a religious idea, i treat other people how i would like to be treated.
@jasonlloyd True dat, but if act in a completely opposite way my view is just as correct as yours. Morality is at best subjective if there is no supreme conscious authority that transcends nature and the creation.
An example I heard once would be similar to a glucose molecule sitting on a raisin in a loaf of raisin bread being baked in an oven trying to understand the life and existential state of the baker.
So by this logic, existence is eternal. This universe as well as all the others are eternal and did not need a creator? Right? Why does the universe need to have a beginning but God does not? Not trying to be a gotcha kind of guy. Curious about this logic… Uses science to prove universe needs a beginning but doesn’t need proof of God?
The fact that there are so many debates and questions about who is god and whether he exists or not by so many people and religions from the dawn of mind-kind to the present time proves there is no god,or god is not what what we think it is
Why do you have a problem with eternity? There is no reason for a beginning. Imagine an unending sequence of big bang type creation events just stretching back forever.
You can, as men have, create your own "god" all day long mate... But the actual God - the actual, factual creator of life all we see is God the Father in Heaven - and the only way to Him amd eternal beauty is through His Son, Jesus Christ... This is not up for debate with anyone who knows Him. One day yoy will know Him, too - and all the theorizing cannot change FACT.
@3:47 - reducing God to your own understanding and then questioning who/what created God. this in and of itself is a way we work. Reducing the world around us to what we know and understand so we can make associations and comparisons. what is done at 4:42 - the statement, "the universe has a beginning" begs the questions that we are within the universe. What is the universe? And I suspect this will be answered by the "big bang" explanation and that this man believes the big bang theory as a fact. The Big Bang Theory is a Jesuit-plot to discredit faith in the Creator as the One who, "In the beginning ...created the heavens and the earth." God doesn't explain a big bang. God explains that everything came into being at His word. "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God, and everything created was not made without him, but was made through him[the word]." "He is the light of life and the light of the world" and the "spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the deep and God said, 'Let there be light.' and there was light" , Then God put two lights in the sky[firmament] to mark seasons, days and years. The greater light (The sun) to rule the day and the lesser light (The moon) to rule the night. "Let their light shine DOWN upon the earth. And so it was/ Genesis 1:1-17 = notice in the sequence of events that the earth was created and the sun and moon and stars were created to light the earth. As long as you force God into a heliocentric big bang model of existence you are not trusting God completely. You are accepting God in one sense while trusting man-made explanations for the rest of creation in the same sense. Do a show on Biblical cosmology with this same guest and with Ken Hamm and with William Craig....these men all believe in God the father, but they all also believe in the theory of evolution and the heliocentric model of the universe and the existence of alien beings off the planet somewhere in the vast universe.
Question for all of you deep thinkers out there. Is it even possible for there to be infinite time in a physical universe such as ours? Let me approach it from another angle: If time existed into eternity past, could we ever have reached "now"? I'm not so sure you could. What say you?
@14:33 - the attributes of the world on which we live is that it is orderly which means that the creator must be orderly. So, let's consider this point of evidence....if the world and everything in it is orderly and that concludes the creator must be orderly then, it must make no sense to follow the heliocentric model since it originates everything out of chaos? Unless you want to commit to forcing God into your man-made construct of space. Is it so difficult to accept that God provided an orderly explanation of the heavens and the earth? Why is it so difficult to turn away from the man-made idol and to turn to the God who is spirit and love? We'll see which way this goes. 14 minutes out of the 27, I'm not leaning toward him confessing the heliocentric model to be false.
Even if an atheist you need something thats eternal and science doesnt say thats the universe, so the question "who created God" even from an atheist doesnt make sense.
Yes man create pagan god (idol), it is the created god. But true god create man, not created. Because pagan god is created by man imagination. But the true god, he inform to man that the true god is exist through revelation.
There reasoning of stars burning out also has a flaw bye new stars being born. We have black holes and nubali/enubila however u spell it. So if u wanna make arguments that god didn’t have a beginning then u can the universe. Regardless they both had a beginning, just because u don’t know how don’t mean it didn’t. God started as a frequency. Gas and pressure friction create a link stem to frequency. Gas must be eternal for anything to exist because gas creates matter
@IgnatiusVaz I understand you my brother. But reading Colossians; "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:" Colossians 1:16. One of "thrones" is "throne of God". By Colossians this throne was created "by him". Now that throne is certainly eternal, everlasting.
If that was the way people kept thinking we would still be living as shepherds instead in this modern age with all these miracles of modern technology. I am not saying a god or gods don't exist, only that due to a lack of evidence I lack a belief. Once evidence is presented I will change my mind and accept that god or gods exist, but I will not follow or worship it since I don't worship anything or anyone.
@17:37 - it is one thing for a person to profess being created in "the image of God" and accept that but reject other revelations of the creator to us about ourselves and from whence we came and the order of those. and another thing for a person to reject everything, but there is still hope for them both. I was once one of them, too. All you need is God. God is love. Therefore the Beatles affirm, all you need is God, because God is love. All you need is love. God is all you need. God is all you need. God is all we need. @18:20 - thoughts....no. God spoke words. God didn't think to himself, God spoke words and revealed himself to us with words. God speaks. Also to say to yourself this it is presumptuous and boastful - you cannot have the thoughts that God has. for the scriptures say, "God said, my ways are not your ways and my thoughts are not your thoughts" - much of what we do know is in the realm of 'forbidden knowledge' because God didn't intend for us to complicate our time with understanding the workings of things, we are just to know they work for our good and God is the One who set them in motion for us. These forbidden truths were passed to us from the ones who left their first domain and began to mingle with mankind. That's another discussion into accepting what God's word says as opposed to what men say the word of God says.
For the Christian God it's basically known. Sumer created Anu who became known in Canaan as El (compare Elohim and Allah). Yahweh was created directly in Canaan and of old he was a lower god than El. However, in Judaism he became identical with El/Elohim as the only God. So there are at least two distinct roots for this deity.
Your ans on who can none physical being create a physical thing. Is more like asking how can ones emotional affects ones physical attributes 😅 Emotions are not physical but they affects our physical bodies. 😮
You will eventually have to say there are somethings that always have been, which will always will be, and always is, and that is the substrate everything that emerges from. To say the beginning of a beginning is to begin the fallacy that would look much like looking at a screen of your computer screen you'll peer into a fractal and an infinity. I do believe there is evidence to suggest a higher order mind that runs the show.
At the same time, if god is eternal so is the universe. One of the theistic principles is that the universe has to have a cause, ergo god. Atheists would add that if anything has to have a beginning so does god.
Reading many posts from Athiest that claim "they do not believe the universe came from nothing." But not one of them explained where the universe came from. I am asking because I want to understand what Atheists believe. God bless.
we don't know. I mean 100 years ago we didn't even know that Pluto existed, that's how quickly science can change. Maybe one day we'll find out what happened before the Big Bang, maybe we'll never know. It's pointless worrying about it. Just enjoy your 80 or so years on Earth.
Eternal can have a beginning just maybe bye definition it doesn’t have a know beginning and then it gets away with not having a beginning as a partial way of defining it. If it can last forever moving forward then it will continue to live eternally and even be acknowledged as that once again on that end of the definition especially because god will have a way to finally show and prove it. So technically god created himself. But had help from stems of himself. Links of himself.
Nobody created God. Here's a full explanation: First, let's get our heads around what a chain of causation is. Say Y created Z, then the immediate question is who created Y? Why X of course. And who created X, you ask. That's W. And so on and so on. If we travel back along this chain of causation, we will eventually reach A. In our quest to discover who created the Universe, we can start with anything in the Universe and then travel back along this chain of causation. There are only two possibilities. This chain can be: 1) Circular 2) Non-circular If the chain is circular, we will eventually get to something that was created by something that it had created--the chicken came from the egg that the chicken had laid. That's Wheeler's Participatory Universe. In short, the Universe was created by intelligence the Universe had created. This concept has to do with particles acting like waves if not observed but acting like particles if observed. That means that the act of observing them after their creation made them go back in time and influence their own nature, so they act like particles. That's enough to give anybody a headache and, not surprisingly, this explanation for the Universe's existence hasn't really caught on. If the chain is not circular, there are only two possibilities: 1) Infinite regression--we never get to the ultimate creator, which will mean nothing can exist. We know this is not the state of things. 2) Somewhere, we run smack-bang into an uncaused cause--the higher intelligence. There are only these three possibilities: 1) The Participatory Universe possibility. 2) Nothing exists because there's no ultimate creator--the infinite regression problem. 3) The uncaused cause is behind everything. One cannot ask where the Uncaused Cause came from--that's a stupid question. Just like people were happy to accept that the Universe was eternal, and Stephen Hawking was happy to believe that the Law of Gravity was eternal, and those of the Quantum faith have no concerns with a quantum vacuum being eternal, we have to accept that there may be an infinite higher intellect.
You sounded like you know what you were saying until you said, " No, we do not have to accept this. There are some things that science cannot explain right now but given enough time.... If you destroyed all the religious books and all the science books, in 5000 years the science books will be re-written and say the same thing. The religious books would be totally difference other than their need to create a god/gods because of peoples fear of death.
@@ddpeter4444 Whatever or whoever created the Universe is God. There's no exception to, only nothing comes from nothing. To believe that the Universe came from nothing is to belief in a miracle greater than any in the Bible. Also, then the Great Nothing will be your God.
Man says, "Nothing creates itself by itself, that's a logical impossibility." Then he tells us that God did not have a creator. That has to be the most senseless logic I've ever seen.
The greater revelation is this: We went through two metaphysical changes when God created us. The first was His image. The second was when Adam and Eve ate a fruit that made us gods ourselves, to which end, God had to send us out of the Garden of Eden and prevent us from eating the second fruit. This new nature, that is also the exact nature of Jesus and His miracle abilities, is what we all possess. Coincidentally a man will one day rise fully aware and able to use his god powers, and this man will parade as the Christ himself, but this man will be the Anti-Christ. We are gods. A scary thought.
You’re pointing to observational evidence that there are no other universes and yet you have no observational evidence that “god” exists. I think what needs to be clarified BEFORE you start the conversation is to DEFINE god. But you keep bringing up the Bible and so now I know what I’m dealing with. I’m out ✌🏼
If an eternal creator God doesn't exist that created the universe, then whatever else that exists that created the universe must be an eternal creator God.
The “Who created God” question is dumb . It clearly states in the Bible that God is the beginning and the end which means he was never created and the creator of everything. If God was created he wouldn’t be God.
Also, if time itself began with the Big Bang, then the concept of "before" and "causality" would've been nonsensical before; if in fact the word "before" is appropriate in this context.
Once people truly believe in Roman Gods, Greek Gods, Egyptian Gods and the list goes on and on. They are gone now. Who among us can say that in another 5000 years there won't be a new God to replace our current ones? You can say there won't be a new God in 5000 more years, but can you say you will control that? Really? That what the world will be like 5000 years in the future is determined by you?
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God was not created. God always existed. Our brains cannot comprehend this understanding.
Or the cosmos was not created, and the cosmos always existed. Because our brains can't comprehend that, they come up with invisible men in the sky to worship
@@mike8984ifyI see your claim but I don’t see any evidence of it
@@mike8984ifyGod said that he always existed, I wasn’t there to confirm that, but there is evidence that God spoke truth to people who wrote down prophecies and history.
God is just like us he has a mother and father. We're not Pinocchio. Neither is God . Geppetto didn't make us or God a pet or slave. Man being created is symbolism let me prove it . Luke chapter 3 has the genealogy of Jesus let me just post the end of the genealogy Luke 3 38 kjv wich was the son of Enos wich was the son of Seth wich was the son of Adam wich was the son of God. .. ah thete we go God is our grandfather. Need more convincing? Psalms 82 kjv God standeth in the congregation of the mighty he judgeth umong the gods 6 I have said ye are little gods children of the most high. .... Roman's 8 16 kjv the Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirits that we are children of God. ... now I hope you don't try to tell us the Holy Spirit is lying to us about this . .so we have both Jesus and the holy spirt telling us we're children of God . 1st corinthians 15 kjv 37 and that wich though soweth thow soweth not that body wich shall be but bare grain it may be chance of wheat or if some other grain 38 but God giveth it a body as it has pleased him to every Seed his OWN Seed . ... We have God's seed we're not created. And if you didn't get the vs if you plant say wheat do you sometimes get a different grain like rye ? Now you might want to read the chapter slowly you should find God is earthly and has a body . Just incase you miss it ill give you a 2end scripture showing God isn't a spirit Mathew 16 15 he saieth unto them but whom say ye that I am 16 and Simon petter answered and said thou art the Christ the son of the Living God. ... living not a ghost . Now I could post stuff from John 5 but thos should do .
@@Bill_Garthright John 1:1-5 Jesus was in the beginning God and with God. All things were created by Jesus, who claimed and proved that he is God.
I’ve never understood why anyone thinks this is a good question from anyone but a child. If God is properly explained, the question shouldn’t arise.
Facts
Just like anyone that thinks "the cosmos has always existed" hasn't had the cosmos properly explained to them, which gets rid of any reason to posit an eternal god.
@@mike8984ify The cosmos is not properly understood and has many phenomena that puzzle scientists, it is mostly theory with lots of assumption and science has verified the universe is incredibly fine tuned for life. We have math which is an abstract concept and can only reside in a mind, before life existed the universe had precise mathematical laws, where did these laws that require a complex understanding of math come from without a mind to comprehend them? That's right GOD.
the only reason athiests ever ask the question is in response to christians asserting that everything has to have a creator. So, an athiest will respond "if everything has a creator, who created god"?
@bbjornrud ah I get it now
If something or someone had to create God, then he wouldn't be God.
They don't get it, as simple as it is.
Exactly, something even greater than god MUST therefore exist.
Nothing eternal (god) can exist without being created by something that exists outside of eternity.
Don't worry that your can't comprehend that, it's just a limitation of your mind, you just have to accept that it is true - because 'there is no other explanation'
(I'm just applying christian logic)
@@mantralibre1367 that’s called special pleading, ie to posit something that explains some quandary by just saying it solves it but without any explanation of the kind you might ask of the naturalist who says that the natural world possesses all the things needed to explain what we are aware of.
@@teks-kj1njand indeed any explanation for the basics is going to end up sounding like ‘it just is’
On what logical ground would you argue that finite creatures could possibly know and completely understand everything there is to know about an infinite being?
God always was and always will be and doesn't need a start like mere man.
Do explain
Yes do explain
Thank you Father in heaven for blessing us with people like Don. His answers to difficult questions are some of the simplest I’ve heard. In a good way. I’ve gone so far as to write these down so if I’ve ever encounter a sceptic I have the confidence and faith to respond…which is not always easy.
Disembodied, ultradementional, ALL the qualities of perfection & to top it off Love personified perfectly!🤯
Love personified??? He says we MUST love him otherwise we burn in fire for eternity. WTF kind of love is that? It's like a jealous boyfriend saying, "I love you but if you leave me for someone else, I will kill you".
"Who created God?" question is the same as "what happens after forever?" question.
There are different levels of infinity.
@@adelinomorte7421 absolutely. Or it could be the contrary. However the hegemonic one would be a qualitative being, say - spiritual, in which the other is.
@@mantralibre1367 Who cares? Why does it even matter? Believers think they're right with no proof. Atheist think they're right trying to leverage things like science, which also is not 100% proof(although it's premise is much more believable). There will never be a 100% proven without a doubt answer.
God created Adam and Eve. God created the tree of knowledge of good and evil. God created a talking lying snake. The talking lying snake lies to Eve. Eve hasn't eaten from the tree when the snake lies to her. Eve does not know what evil is until after she eats from the tree.
Is lying evil?
Who created God?
The question how do you know the Christian God is the right God? Answer …prophecy God declares the end from the beginning so that when it comes to pass you know He is God. Time space and matter are tied together. God progressively reveals Himself in His word proving He is the first cause and transcends the material world. Observation of the material world will give you general revelation and points to His attributes, but it’s prophecy the gives special Revelation.
Isaiah 53 prophecy of Jesus Christ and His death on the cross , it was fulfilled you should open the bible and read Isaiah chapter 53 for your self then read the gospels and see how the events unfold .
@@Bill_Garthright
Reveals himself?
When, where? A bunch of obscure signs that some interpret as miracles. Why would he just not reveal himself so there is no mystery? I know, for true believers there is no mystery but for people with half a brain, belief in something without demonstrable proof is just stupid.
@@ddpeter4444Au contraire belief or
faith in something you can't see doesn't make it untrue Have you ever
seen subatomic matter? Just because
you can't see God doesn't mean that
He isn't real I know He's real changed
my life and answers prayers
@@cathy7382 Faith in something you cannot see is illogical. I agree, I have not seen subatomic particles, but I trust science. I have never seen a flying spaghetti monster, so does it make sense to believe that one exists. I have no evidence of either. Please tell me what evidence you have that God exists other than your feelings. Real evidence does not exist.
@@ddpeter4444 just look around at the
wonderful works that God has created if
there's a building someone had to make
it a painting is made by an artist All I
know is God drastically changed my
life, it's not a matter of feelings
1 Peter 5:8
Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.
I love your channel ❤️
Who Created God? Actually, one can say God Created God! "You must be kidding," you might say! Well, but you see, the question doesn't make any sense at all. Only the atheists ask such a gotcha question. Even scientists believe through the concept of big-bang that something bang in the very beginning. In fact, the noise of the bang has been so loud and disturbing that we eventually invented very efficient soundproof gadgets to protect our hearing. So, you see, there was a beginning. Consequently, the question should not be Who Created God, rather the more appropriate question is; What was God Doing Before the Beginning? My humble opinion is that He was thinking, making plans about his future creation, and gathering all the material that he was going to bang... This back-and-forth conversation between these two world class scientists has been a delight for me to watch and listen. Sincere thanks.
Still no proof of god..I love how some humans think they got it all figured out and know for a fact there is a god. I think it’s just fear of death…and hey that’s ok 👍
Amazing answers & explanations...LOVED IT !!
@11:29 - the Psalmists do talk about how "the heavens declare the glory of the LORD" and it is mistranslated 'universe' to promote the heliocentric model. The word 'heavens' is not synonymous with the word 'universe'. In prior translations it reads, "the firmament declares God's handiwork"
but more of the argument here is that the sun, if a hydrogen ball of gasses burning for millennia, has been burning long before the earth was formed by gravitational forces and elements colliding, but God explains that the sun is a light placed in the firmament long after the earth was established, then how can you reconcile the rest of the Bible as truth if you reject the "beginning".
It can take millions of years for a collection of gasses to fuse and explode into a sun.
Genesis 1:1- in the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth..
Aeons after..
Genesis 1:2- and the world was void and without form bringing a recreation..
What happened during those Aeons and who inhabited the earth in this time as humanity is only 6000+. Why did God tell Adam to replenish the earth? Do you replenish a new thing? Did something happen to the old creation before God stated a new one? How long did it take for the gases to form? Remember, God is eternal, 1000 years is like a day before Him. The Bible is a book of mysteries and life concealed by God for those filled with the Holy Spirit to search the hidden things of God. Even science is a search of the hidden concealed things of God, if only they did it while acknowledging the creator 😂. God is The Great Unapproachable Light and the world was created out of that Great Light for a purpose( the pleasure of God), not some random Big Bang. Sometimes your foolishness may just be pleasure in the spirit realm, but God is willing to show these things to those who willingly come to Him in Spirit and Truth through Jesus Christ His first begotten Son.. SHALOM🕊
They just say it's metaphorical. But I don't know why the order in which things come about is part of the metaphor.
Meaning, if the order was changed to sun was created then the earth does the metaphor fall apart?
Every truth will be revealed one day. I believe when we pass away, God shows us these truths.
I am a Muslim and your arguments are damn solid, Sir! Thank You very much for sharing them!
This is what I love about atheists and evolution lovers, they won't accept that life was created but always question who created your god. In this realm God created, everything needs a beginning, this is what we always observe and we are bound by this law that things need to be created. God is outside of this and has always existed. God is powerful beyond our understanding, his perceptions are limitless and because of this time is different for God, in a single second he can have more thoughts than every person who has ever lived or will live. He is beyond human comprehension and no matter how advanced our technologies become we can never know his greatness.
AMEN!!! HALLELUYAH!!
Man, the reason is pretty simple. First: you have evidence of the cosmos - and logic says that the cosmos IS everything. It's quantic, as we now know. You don't have evidence of "god ". Second: the act of creating something implies the fact that space and time exist, and that you live in a space and time. Hence, if this universe was created it was not by a god, it would be a sort of simulation.
We probably are in a simulation created by futuristic Aliens has metaphysical powers that defies the law of physics we are in the game so we are not able to see the realm beyond and we can’t comprehend what is out there with our primitive mind.
It is said by some, that time is eternal. However, those that say "who created God" are admitting to us that they themselves know that they are created. This means that they understand intuitively, that time is not eternal.
(Psalm 102:26; Isaiah 51:6; 2 Peter 3:10; Matthew 5:18; Hebrews 12:27)
Time has a beginning and an end. Therefore, since we are a creation, are ability to understand God's eternal nature is inconceivable.
Job 11:7
“Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty?
"Time has a beginning and an end"
We don't know whether time has an end. There is no evidence it has. I'm not even sure whether it has a beginning.
no we just asking who create him
God is not created rather He's the Almighty Creator.
My toughest question as a Theist is that, why is it that outside time and space and matter, the default is there is an eternal God? Where he came from and how did he come into existence.
Good question. I would recommend this article: Who created God? - creation.com/who-created-god
That "Default" is instilled in most from childhood. It's also instilled to never put that default to any doubt or question. But we humans are a naturally curious species. So when we are told to not even dare ask questions about things once thought to be infallible. We take that as a green light to question. Think of this thought. It may be so that this Universe does have a creator source. The issues is the identity of said creator source. It might not be what most expect.
"outside time and space and matter," is nonsensical
A segment from 'Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within'...
My new understandings of what many call 'God -The Holy Spirit' - resulting from some of the extraordinary ongoing after-effects relating to my NDE...
Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what some scientists are now referring to as the unified field of consciousnesses. In other words, it’s the essence of all existence and non-existence - the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the actual creator of everything that exists now, ever existed in the past, or will exist in the future - right down to the minutest particles of dust - each being an individual ripple or wave.
The big difference between chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of inner enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves. That’s because chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo allows us to tap directly into our enlightened state by way of this self-produced sound vibration. ‘Who or What Is God?’ If we compare the concept of God being a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to the teachings of Nichiren, it makes more sense to me that the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people perceive to be God, is the fantastic state of enlightenment that exists within each of us. Some say that God is an entity that’s beyond physical matter - I think that the vast amount of information continuously being conveyed via electromagnetic waves in today’s world gives us proof of how an invisible state of God could indeed exist.
For example, it’s now widely known that specific data relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects - including an instant global awareness of something or a mass emotional reaction. It’s also common knowledge that these invisible waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars - none of which is possible without a receiver to decode the information that’s being transmitted. Without the receiver, the data would remain impotent. In a very similar way, we need to have our own ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our own life, all other life and what everything else in existence is.
Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach the core of our enlightenment and keep it switched on. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what scientists now refer to as the unified field of consciousnesses. To break it down - Myoho represents the Law of manifestation and latency (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. For example, the state of Myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists - including our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them - our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re dormant - our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma - and more importantly, our enlightenment.
The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes evident to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory - whenever we experience or express our emotions - or whenever a good or bad cause manifests as an effect from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it merely means that it’s come out of the state of Myo (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing.
The second law - Renge - Ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect, governs and controls the functions of Myoho - these two laws of Myoho and Renge, not only function together simultaneously but also underlies all spiritual and physical existence.
The final and third part of the tri-combination - Kyo, is the Law that allows Myoho to integrate with Renge - or vice versa. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects all Life and matter - as well as the past, present and future. It’s also sometimes termed the Universal Law of Communication - perhaps it could even be compared with the string theory that many scientists now suspect exists.
Just as the cells in our body, our thoughts, feelings and everything else is continually fluctuating within us - all that exists in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux - constantly controlled by these three fundamental laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of Myo and ho in a single moment than it would ever be possible to calculate or describe. And it doesn’t matter how big or small, famous or trivial anything or anyone may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past, exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of the Laws ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ - the basis of the four fundamental forces, and if they didn’t function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. That’s because all forms of existence, including the seasons, day, night, birth, death and so on, are moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation - rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two fundamental states of Myo and ho in absolute accordance with Renge - and by way of Kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn under the workings of what the combination ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ represents. Nam, or Namu - which mean the same thing, are vibrational passwords or keys that allow us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’.
On a more personal level, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives - as well as the environment from moment to moment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is spinning, and chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for a minimum of, let’s say, ten minutes daily to start with, any of us can experience actual proof of its positive effects in our lives - even if it only makes us feel good on the inside, there will be a definite positive effect. That’s because we’re able to pierce through the thickest layers of our karma and activate our inherent Buddha Nature (our enlightened state). By so doing, we’re then able to bring forth the wisdom and good fortune that we need to challenge, overcome and change our adverse circumstances - turn them into positive ones - or manifest and gain even greater fulfilment in our daily lives from our accumulated good karma. This also allows us to bring forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that’s preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we indeed are - regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexuality. We’re also able to see and understand our circumstances and the environment far more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. As I’ve already mentioned, everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect - the ‘actual-proof-strength’ resulting from chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo always depends on our determination, sincerity and dedication.
For example, the levels of difference could be compared to making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, producing a great song, and so on. Something else that’s very important to always respect and acknowledge is that the Law (or if you prefer God) is in everyone and everything.
NB: There are frightening and disturbing sounds, and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It’s the emotional result of any noise or sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day, we are producing a sound vibration that’s the password to our true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things - such as your fears and desires etc. The best way to get the desired result when chanting is not to view things conventionally - rather than reaching out to an external source, we need to reach into our own lives and bring our needs and desires to fruition from within - including the good fortune and strength to achieve any help that we may need. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo also reaches out externally and draws us towards, or draws towards us, what we need to make us happy from our environment. For example, it helps us to be in the right place at the right time - to make better choices and decisions and so forth. We need to think of it as a seed within us that we’re watering and bringing sunshine to for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s also important to understand that everything we need in life, including the answer to every question and the potential to achieve every dream, already exists within us.
@@tyamada21
You're wasting your time and as a person who has already been warned, your time here is limited. The Creator sent us prophets and messengers and His words of instructions and guidance to ignore any of that is to disbelieve. Get on the path of righteous quickly my brother.
Jesus is Lord and there is only One True God. Repent of worshiping these false gods and be saved!
Hi
Paul puts this very well, ‘ So that the things that are seen are not made of things which do appear’
METAPHYSICAL!
I can't wait to meet God when my time comes. I hope I am on the elevator going up and not the one going down. I can't wait for all the answers to be revealed to me, one miricle at a time.
I pray for the atheists and the wicked so that maybe they, too, will be welcomed into heaven and they can share in the knowledge and eternal life. God bless.
@@Sola_Scriptura_1.618 do you also pray for those who despite thinking they are worshipping Jesus will be told he doesn’t recognize them because they didn’t do the will of the father. IOW it’s not the obviously wicked and atheists who are in trouble but anyone who, because they are on the outside, will not understand and will be lost. Wide is the path that leads to destruction and many will follow but narrow is the way to salvation and few will find it. And it’ll be too late to do anything about once you find out.
@rizdekd3912 Do you read scripture? Christ is clear as to what is required for eternal life; we just need to accept his grace. John 3:16.
God will judge us according to his expectations of us. He knows what opportunities were provided and how we responded to said opportunities. God is great, God is just.
You can take the hope out of it by believing Jesus Christ died for your sins, repenting for your sins, confessing your faith in Him out loud, and loving and following Him in all you do.
@paulreppenhagen3661 You are 100,000% correct. I am a reformed Catholic and now a full-fledged Christian following Christ. Eternal life is through Christ and Christ alone. His grace is our gift for believing in him. His death was payment for our sins.
Studying and reading the Bible is so important to understanding God's word.
God bless for your message.
P.s. I repent to acknowledge in my sins and meditate to become better. But God's Grace is eternal and washes away all of our sins. Once saved always saved! Even a sinner like me.
@@Sola_Scriptura_1.618 "But God's Grace is eternal and washes away all of our sins. Once saved always saved! Even a sinner like me."
Do you claim to never sin now? Or does the Grace automatically and continuously wash away your sins as you commit them. God's grace has to do more than simply wash away the (guilt of the) sins you commit, it has to literally change your person to be redeemed since your carnal natural cannot enter the kingdom of heaven and since the fall, all humans are born sinful. Or don't you agree with that doctrine?
I heard energy you cannot create or destroy? It’s always been there, how can something just be there? Everything we know is created, how come it’s different for god and energy?
Pheno! Great job men! You've whet and satisfied my appetite tonight! To God be all the glory thru Christ Jesus Amen.
It’s ok to admit that we don’t know..
If only we had the humility to say we don't know.
If only atheists could do that, indeed... Christians have the humility to say that they KNOW - this is the very point.
Only atheist. Christians know the creator can't be created.
@Zodroo_Tint How so? Pray tell us all oh all-knowing sage.
Two men come across a painting.
Man A says “I wonder who painted this.” Man B says “who says anyone painted it? Maybe paint just collected and formed that beautiful portrait.”
Man A says “no, look at the brush strokes and the layout, that suggests intentional design. There had to be a painter.”
Man B says “oh yeah? Well if paintings all require a painter, then who painted the painter?”
(That’s how illogical it sounds when people ask who made God.)🤦🏻♂️
Oh no, not the watchmaker argument.
Q: How do you know when something is designed? (human made object)
A: You compare it to something not designed.(nature)
Also, if everything requires a 'maker', who made god. There must be a god maker.
I wait now for the special pleading argument where will they claim a special exception for god.
@I cannot believe your response. You literally just asked me the question I was addressing in my comment. 🤦🏻♂️. It’s an illogical question. Please reread my comment. You’re just looking to argue and I’m not biting.
@@scottsponaas read the question again.
You can't know something is designed unless you compared it to something un-designed. The un-designed thing is nature.
What is illogical about this? (except the mental roadblock that religion has put in place)
Is the facepalm emoji christian? Would Jesus do that?
I don't believe in something out of nothing, so wherever that leads me is what I believe.
Well energy can't be "created" and you still utilize it.
You realize there are practically no atheist that believe something came out of nothing, right? Nothing about that conclusion requires a god.
🤔 I'm stuck on how people think we could get our morals from monkeys 🐒
@@mike8984ify An atheist has to believe all matter came from nothing and complexity beyond human capabilities created itself without the need for intelligent design, which has never ever been observed, highly complex mechanisms utilising purposefully sequenced information ALWAYS necessitates and intelligent mind, atheism requires a special pleading for a mechanism never observed. Considering 'observation' is a massive part of science, this is a huge problem for atheism and requires a suspension of reality, that complexity requires higher and higher levels of intelligent input the more sophistication increases.
@@spamm0145Nope. I'm an atheist and I don't believe all matter came from nothing. So your reply is obviously false.
I don't know what "complexity beyond human capabilities" means. Are you familiar with Cellular Automatons? Very simple rules can produce complexity "beyond human capability". Many natural processes are very complex. This doesn't require any design, even if you assert it. I'd love to see your argument for WHY such complexity requires intelligent design, but I know you'll just spout the same nonsense as other theist.
Finally, similar to the point of the video, if you're saying that complexity requires design, then who designed God? If you get to say it's just a brute fact that God is complex, then I get to say it's a brute fact that the universe is complex. No free lunches.
- the Cross of Zero-Point Gravity is explained as the Nothing in Astrophysics and the Cross was personally added to description
Saw the shorts on this , im glad i came to watch the whole interview 🙏 Praise God for your guy's knowledge and Sharing it 🙏 I'll have to watch again to get all the big words used lol God bless 🕊 Yeshua Messiah is Lord 🕊
Creation is beyond our understanding is too advance and complicated I think people wanted to ask how was God born, original and how was he create himself
Look athe beauty of a Verse in Rig Veda
Rig Veda Sloka (creation Hymn) 10.129 has the most mesmerizing answer or question! (part of it here)
Who really knows? Who will here proclaim it?
Whence was it produced? Whence is this creation?
The gods came afterwards, with the creation of this universe. (brilliant verse)
Who then knows whence it has arisen?
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Whence this creation has arisen - perhaps it formed itself, or perhaps it did not
the one who looks down on it, in the highest heaven,
only he knows - or perhaps he does not know. (The Ultimate negation here!)
But atheist accuse you of throwing stones from a glass house when you ask them what caused the Universe but can't answer what caused God. 🤔
"I don't know" is an intellectually honest answer, unlike "because God". The point is that both positions have a brute fact of "it always existed" at their core, which shows that "God" isn't a better answer.
Lol, it always been there, is you that can grasp that
An atheist usually understands that the concept of creation is contradictory both to a universe AND to a God.
I created a comment giving the full answer. Look higher up.
@@mike8984ify” I don’t know” is by definition Not an answer, it means you don’t have an answer.
4:47 - our universe had a beginning, as in space, time and matter seems to have started at the initial point when "the big bang banged". There may or may not be something in the cosmos that sits outside of our universe that works (naturally) different to how space/time/matter physics work.
If it's 'something' and works 'naturally', then, by definition, it is part of the universe. (You've differentiated 'universe' and 'cosmos', but they're the same thing.) However, there is, indeed, more to it that just what is in the physical universe. That is, the realm of the supernatural, which is, by definition, 'other than' the natural realm. God is supernatural. He is a sufficient cause for the entire natural realm.
@@creationministriesintl agree only that using language that speaks of the Space-time universe breaks down at whatever it means before it. But however it works is the bigger container of the cosmos. You can fit your paradoxical god into that as well, you’re just faced with much more work than the smartest minds on the planet. Good luck demonstrating that, especially having to defer to an ancient book instead of the vast array of knowledge that only continues to supplant outdated folklore.
@@ardbegthequestion The outdated folklore says there are 7 days in the week....which vast array of knowledge decided that?
@@kevinrtres - people who came up with it course; the earliest evidence of an astrological significance of a seven-day period is connected to Gudea, the priest-king of Lagash in Sumer during the Gutian dynasty (about 2100 BCE).
@@ardbegthequestion ..and so they liaised with all the people around the earth to come to a common understanding, yes, of course.
Vastly terrific video CMI 🤩
God bless you all
Amazing video , congratulations 👏👏👏
"I don't know, but i Believe"
Your not alone no one knows
Belief is good, but important to search for the truth. This corrupt evil world is full of deception. Cheers.
What was god doing for all eternity prior to creating our universe?
First Time as we know it did not exist. Its difficult for our brain to comprehend beyond one dimension of time. John 17 gives us clues. God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit were loving each other and glorifying each other. Its a full time job to love the Creator.
Chilling...
Josh I hope you find the truth 🙏 this will help you....
His mom ?. Which came first the chicken or the egg ?. His mom.
Simply put, God does not exist in time. God can go eternally into the past and then eternally into the future.
Simply put, God not existing in time means God does not exist.
@@VincentCMercandetti 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@user-xp4fm2st8u God exists outside of time. Time does not apply to God. God is eternal and always exists.
@@mrd.808I would be cautious to base your theology on the belief in time since you're applying scientific theory to biblical theology.
@Hydroverse my apologies, I am easily confused, and I do not comprehend what you are explaining to me.
The question "who created God?". Now we are told in scripture that
"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:" Colossians 1:16.
This means God created himself, for "all things were created by him."
Occam would say the cosmos was not created, since you have evidence of the latter, and none of former. It's not that we cannot conceive god. We cannot conceive a "beginning". That's why we make up god.
No! God did not create himself! That's a Paradox you stated. For God to create himself, he would have to pre-exist, be outside of himself - Moreover, created Gods do not exist.
Best Answer : Like the bible implies, God existed always and is uncreated. He is eternal, the Beginning and the End - Infinite
He is the first cause !
God is a mystery that our finite mind cannot comprehend
May be in eternity, (heaven) we could ask God to reveal this mystery
Incorrect. Read all the passage. “He is before all things and by Him all things consist.”
Awesome! My response was for cosmas as well.
Amazing how easily Christians throw around the terms Eternal and Eternity.
If God is eternal, that means he has existed for eternity. If that is the case, then God's existence would never be able to reach the present times, as he would still be in the eternal past, because it has NO beginning.
Also, you are saying God has waited an infinite amount of time to create the universe, which makes NO sense at all.
Could just be infinite cycles like day and night.
Any discussion about time, and the possibility of being outside of it, is more complicated than most people realise. The topic of God's relationship to time is obviously in this catergory. Well worth a read is:
→ How does God relate to time? creation.com/god-and-time
→ Did God create time? creation.com/did-god-create-time
God didn't need time for anything. It was just HIM and the book tells you how He did it. He just DID IT and created time space matter all at the same time. He didn't need any of that to exist. What makes you think God needs time 🤔
You can't have have an "irreducibly complex" argument evolution and the say the most complex thing known to humans was just always there.
Didn't learn anything, he always knew everything. Didn't grow in love, he always was love, didn't create power, he just is power.
If he was fully formed in all things, what motivated him to create?
He decided to create. He is a personal being.
@levi3494 why?
HalleluYAH in the name of Yeshua!
how do you know that god is eternal? i will wait for an answer.
Because God is the foundation of all that is. Whatever is the foundation must be eternal or there would be no anything. Its simple logic. The difficult logic is in the identification of this eternal foundation.
@@blusheep2 Your logic is illogical !
@@sunsetman1479 Well, you didn't do a good job demonstrating how it was illogical. Now, I gave you a very very short explanation of the answer but it makes the point and there is nothing illogical about it.
I understand that you put your foot in your mouth by saying "Ill wait for an answer" which is "code" for "Ill never get an answer and you all know it," but here I gave you a coherent LOGICAL answer. Just deal with it. Don't just be a denialist.
@@sunsetman1479
No, YOU have the logic problem which you will never acknowledge.
Because it says so on their special book with talking snakes.
Anyone should be able to debunk evolution in 30 seconds. ✝️
Perhaps anyone with a PhD? Or degree in Biology?
@@timlenord1 Anyone with common sense. ✝️
@YECBIB Well, I guess it will continue to be a science until someone with common sense has 30 seconds to spare.
@@timlenord1 Anyone with common sense should easily have 30 seconds to spare. ✝️
@@YECBIB Given that evolution hasn't(as of August 2023) been debunked, your argument seems to imply that no one who doubts evolution has any common sense. Which I guess is pretty accurate.
Science is literally revealing more of the Bible to be true every single day, May all the Glory go to God, Amen 🙏
- I AM THAT WHO GOD is what would have so been written in that of Moses' inquiry towards But instead so written I AM THAT I AM If exactly God and so notice a capitalized 'G' and then after small cased 'od' as in that of Elohim
“Who created God” is a contradiction. It assumes God isn’t God because He would have to be made, and if posits a Divine Supreme Being. The question itself makes a claim for an omniscient omnipresent omnipotent God, just not the Christian one…
The question 'Who created god' is not materialist. It's not an atheist question (whatever that means). It s a response to the theist statement that poses as a so called explanation regarding the creation of the universe. When you say 'god'... . you e x p l a i n N O T H I N G. Anymore than a kid that says 'he did it using magic!'. It looks like an answer but it has not explanatory power so answers NOTHING!
You still have to explain 'supernatural' and 'eternal'.
It 's a classic god of the gaps. I dont know therefore god. That does not logically follow.
The bachelor analogy is idiotic. Since the concept of bachelor and 'marriage' is construct that we understand. A timeless, non physical 'God always existed'
So what is the answer? Theists you are not going to like that. It requires a lot of humility and certainly no claim that you have a special relationship with the son of the creator of the universe..
WE DONT KNOW!
To add, "Who created God" is not even a valid question since there's no proof of his existence to begin with. We can already prove the universe exists, so why exactly are we adding an extra layer that we can't prove the existence of.. oh yeah, to ease people's minds from the nothingness that comes after death, of course. Like trying to understand how the universe was created wasn't challenging enough, let's also say this intangible figure created it and we have no way to prove it.. how convenient.
Every thing that has a beginning needs to be created, but what makes you assume god is eternal. If the logic is an everything needs a creator, then the creator needs a creator, then its creators all the way down.
Just believe, have faith that I am and you will see . I've saw things that tells me there's more.
I'm not religious and i don't go around raping and killing people. Having good morals is not a religious idea, i treat other people how i would like to be treated.
@jasonlloyd True dat, but if act in a completely opposite way my view is just as correct as yours. Morality is at best subjective if there is no supreme conscious authority that transcends nature and the creation.
An example I heard once would be similar to a glucose molecule sitting on a raisin in a loaf of raisin bread being baked in an oven trying to understand the life and existential state of the baker.
So by this logic, existence is eternal. This universe as well as all the others are eternal and did not need a creator? Right? Why does the universe need to have a beginning but God does not? Not trying to be a gotcha kind of guy. Curious about this logic… Uses science to prove universe needs a beginning but doesn’t need proof of God?
The fact that there are so many debates and questions about who is god and whether he exists or not by so many people and religions from the dawn of mind-kind to the present time proves there is no god,or god is not what what we think it is
Why do you have a problem with eternity? There is no reason for a beginning. Imagine an unending sequence of big bang type creation events just stretching back forever.
- ETERNAL AND PRESENCE OF CONSTANT EVER BEING
and what if we define god as existence only who expressed himself by merging with his power and created this universe
You can, as men have, create your own "god" all day long mate... But the actual God - the actual, factual creator of life all we see is God the Father in Heaven - and the only way to Him amd eternal beauty is through His Son, Jesus Christ...
This is not up for debate with anyone who knows Him.
One day yoy will know Him, too - and all the theorizing cannot change FACT.
@ I want you to prove what you just said.
Prove it.
@ ‘One day you will know him too.’
Says who?
Wich God ? The father, the son or the holy spirit?
Profound! ❤❤
@3:47 - reducing God to your own understanding and then questioning who/what created God. this in and of itself is a way we work. Reducing the world around us to what we know and understand so we can make associations and comparisons.
what is done at 4:42 - the statement, "the universe has a beginning" begs the questions that we are within the universe. What is the universe? And I suspect this will be answered by the "big bang" explanation and that this man believes the big bang theory as a fact. The Big Bang Theory is a Jesuit-plot to discredit faith in the Creator as the One who, "In the beginning ...created the heavens and the earth." God doesn't explain a big bang. God explains that everything came into being at His word. "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God, and everything created was not made without him, but was made through him[the word]." "He is the light of life and the light of the world" and the "spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the deep and God said, 'Let there be light.' and there was light" , Then God put two lights in the sky[firmament] to mark seasons, days and years. The greater light (The sun) to rule the day and the lesser light (The moon) to rule the night. "Let their light shine DOWN upon the earth. And so it was/ Genesis 1:1-17 = notice in the sequence of events that the earth was created and the sun and moon and stars were created to light the earth.
As long as you force God into a heliocentric big bang model of existence you are not trusting God completely. You are accepting God in one sense while trusting man-made explanations for the rest of creation in the same sense.
Do a show on Biblical cosmology with this same guest and with Ken Hamm and with William Craig....these men all believe in God the father, but they all also believe in the theory of evolution and the heliocentric model of the universe and the existence of alien beings off the planet somewhere in the vast universe.
Question for all of you deep thinkers out there. Is it even possible for there to be infinite time in a physical universe such as ours? Let me approach it from another angle: If time existed into eternity past, could we ever have reached "now"? I'm not so sure you could. What say you?
@14:33 - the attributes of the world on which we live is that it is orderly which means that the creator must be orderly. So, let's consider this point of evidence....if the world and everything in it is orderly and that concludes the creator must be orderly then, it must make no sense to follow the heliocentric model since it originates everything out of chaos? Unless you want to commit to forcing God into your man-made construct of space. Is it so difficult to accept that God provided an orderly explanation of the heavens and the earth? Why is it so difficult to turn away from the man-made idol and to turn to the God who is spirit and love?
We'll see which way this goes. 14 minutes out of the 27, I'm not leaning toward him confessing the heliocentric model to be false.
What was God doing before he created the Universe?
Why do you assume that God-who is far different to whatever we can imagine-must keep himself busy or working in the same manner humans do?
You can ask him when you meet him.
We keep trying to force things into our understanding/box. We need to try to understand things as they are not as we want them to be.
Even if an atheist you need something thats eternal and science doesnt say thats the universe, so the question "who created God" even from an atheist doesnt make sense.
My mind understands God's existence.
God Is.
God did not created man. Man created god
kinda yes but mostly no
Man did not create the God of the Bible.
The original lie......
Yes man create pagan god (idol), it is the created god.
But true god create man, not created.
Because pagan god is created by man imagination.
But the true god, he inform to man that the true god is exist through revelation.
There reasoning of stars burning out also has a flaw bye new stars being born. We have black holes and nubali/enubila however u spell it. So if u wanna make arguments that god didn’t have a beginning then u can the universe. Regardless they both had a beginning, just because u don’t know how don’t mean it didn’t. God started as a frequency. Gas and pressure friction create a link stem to frequency. Gas must be eternal for anything to exist because gas creates matter
GOD HAS NO CREATOR. GOD HAS NO BEGINNING AND HAS NO END🙏✝️💜😇 GOD IS THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
And god cretivity of universe is still on going from when he started it
@IgnatiusVaz I understand you my brother. But reading Colossians;
"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:"
Colossians 1:16. One of "thrones" is "throne of God". By Colossians this throne was created "by him". Now that throne is certainly eternal, everlasting.
Good talk. Mind will never figure it out. Park in Your heart and power it instead of the mind and experience the whole creation.
If that was the way people kept thinking we would still be living as shepherds instead in this modern age with all these miracles of modern technology. I am not saying a god or gods don't exist, only that due to a lack of evidence I lack a belief. Once evidence is presented I will change my mind and accept that god or gods exist, but I will not follow or worship it since I don't worship anything or anyone.
@17:37 - it is one thing for a person to profess being created in "the image of God" and accept that but reject other revelations of the creator to us about ourselves and from whence we came and the order of those. and another thing for a person to reject everything, but there is still hope for them both. I was once one of them, too. All you need is God. God is love. Therefore the Beatles affirm, all you need is God, because God is love. All you need is love. God is all you need. God is all you need. God is all we need.
@18:20 - thoughts....no. God spoke words. God didn't think to himself, God spoke words and revealed himself to us with words. God speaks. Also to say to yourself this it is presumptuous and boastful - you cannot have the thoughts that God has. for the scriptures say, "God said, my ways are not your ways and my thoughts are not your thoughts" - much of what we do know is in the realm of 'forbidden knowledge' because God didn't intend for us to complicate our time with understanding the workings of things, we are just to know they work for our good and God is the One who set them in motion for us. These forbidden truths were passed to us from the ones who left their first domain and began to mingle with mankind. That's another discussion into accepting what God's word says as opposed to what men say the word of God says.
For the Christian God it's basically known. Sumer created Anu who became known in Canaan as El (compare Elohim and Allah).
Yahweh was created directly in Canaan and of old he was a lower god than El. However, in Judaism he became identical with El/Elohim as the only God. So there are at least two distinct roots for this deity.
Your ans on who can none physical being create a physical thing.
Is more like asking how can ones emotional affects ones physical attributes 😅
Emotions are not physical but they affects our physical bodies.
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You will eventually have to say there are somethings that always have been, which will always will be, and always is, and that is the substrate everything that emerges from.
To say the beginning of a beginning is to begin the fallacy that would look much like looking at a screen of your computer screen you'll peer into a fractal and an infinity.
I do believe there is evidence to suggest a higher order mind that runs the show.
Please tell me the name of the expert "schlor" in this interview. I have searched his video on evolution vs Scriptures???
At the same time, if god is eternal so is the universe. One of the theistic principles is that the universe has to have a cause, ergo god. Atheists would add that if anything has to have a beginning so does god.
Reading many posts from Athiest that claim "they do not believe the universe came from nothing." But not one of them explained where the universe came from. I am asking because I want to understand what Atheists believe. God bless.
we don't know. I mean 100 years ago we didn't even know that Pluto existed, that's how quickly science can change. Maybe one day we'll find out what happened before the Big Bang, maybe we'll never know. It's pointless worrying about it. Just enjoy your 80 or so years on Earth.
Christians can't say something created God as the whole thing falls apart if it does. Christians cannot have that
Eternal can have a beginning just maybe bye definition it doesn’t have a know beginning and then it gets away with not having a beginning as a partial way of defining it. If it can last forever moving forward then it will continue to live eternally and even be acknowledged as that once again on that end of the definition especially because god will have a way to finally show and prove it. So technically god created himself. But had help from stems of himself. Links of himself.
Nobody created God. Here's a full explanation:
First, let's get our heads around what a chain of causation is. Say Y created Z, then the immediate question is who created Y? Why X of course. And who created X, you ask. That's W. And so on and so on. If we travel back along this chain of causation, we will eventually reach A.
In our quest to discover who created the Universe, we can start with anything in the Universe and then travel back along this chain of causation. There are only two possibilities. This chain can be:
1) Circular
2) Non-circular
If the chain is circular, we will eventually get to something that was created by something that it had created--the chicken came from the egg that the chicken had laid. That's Wheeler's Participatory Universe. In short, the Universe was created by intelligence the Universe had created. This concept has to do with particles acting like waves if not observed but acting like particles if observed. That means that the act of observing them after their creation made them go back in time and influence their own nature, so they act like particles. That's enough to give anybody a headache and, not surprisingly, this explanation for the Universe's existence hasn't really caught on.
If the chain is not circular, there are only two possibilities:
1) Infinite regression--we never get to the ultimate creator, which will mean nothing can exist. We know this is not the state of things.
2) Somewhere, we run smack-bang into an uncaused cause--the higher intelligence.
There are only these three possibilities:
1) The Participatory Universe possibility.
2) Nothing exists because there's no ultimate creator--the infinite regression problem.
3) The uncaused cause is behind everything.
One cannot ask where the Uncaused Cause came from--that's a stupid question. Just like people were happy to accept that the Universe was eternal, and Stephen Hawking was happy to believe that the Law of Gravity was eternal, and those of the Quantum faith have no concerns with a quantum vacuum being eternal, we have to accept that there may be an infinite higher intellect.
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No, we do not have to accept this. There are some things that science cannot explain right now but given enough time....
If you destroyed all the religious books and all the science books, in 5000 years the science books will be re-written and say the same thing. The religious books would be totally difference other than their need to create a god/gods because of peoples fear of death.
@@ddpeter4444 Whatever or whoever created the Universe is God. There's no exception to, only nothing comes from nothing. To believe that the Universe came from nothing is to belief in a miracle greater than any in the Bible. Also, then the Great Nothing will be your God.
The question was answered before you ever thought it. Gotcha!
Man says, "Nothing creates itself by itself, that's a logical impossibility." Then he tells us that God did not have a creator. That has to be the most senseless logic I've ever seen.
The greater revelation is this: We went through two metaphysical changes when God created us. The first was His image. The second was when Adam and Eve ate a fruit that made us gods ourselves, to which end, God had to send us out of the Garden of Eden and prevent us from eating the second fruit. This new nature, that is also the exact nature of Jesus and His miracle abilities, is what we all possess. Coincidentally a man will one day rise fully aware and able to use his god powers, and this man will parade as the Christ himself, but this man will be the Anti-Christ. We are gods. A scary thought.
God is real or eternal? How do you know this?
God is the existence that existed before the existence starts to exist and will keep existing even when the existence ceases to exist ❤
You’re pointing to observational evidence that there are no other universes and yet you have no observational evidence that “god” exists. I think what needs to be clarified BEFORE you start the conversation is to DEFINE god. But you keep bringing up the Bible and so now I know what I’m dealing with. I’m out ✌🏼
They do define God. Don’t be upset. If the God of the Bible is God, then worship Him. If you have a better candidate, by all means share it.
If an eternal creator God doesn't exist that created the universe, then whatever else that exists that created the universe must be an eternal creator God.
The “Who created God” question is dumb . It clearly states in the Bible that God is the beginning and the end which means he was never created and the creator of everything. If God was created he wouldn’t be God.
Also, if time itself began with the Big Bang, then the concept of "before" and "causality" would've been nonsensical before; if in fact the word "before" is appropriate in this context.
- Infinite, is the ever movement in so time and finite is that of measure-able time within so space
- actually, the word of God, describes the Universe itself as ZION and yes it had a beginning
Question is,what started whatever started that started whatever started 🤔
All religions at some point say Jesus crist of Nazareth is the one true god
If you still believe in god so naive
Once people truly believe in Roman Gods, Greek Gods, Egyptian Gods and the list goes on and on. They are gone now. Who among us can say that in another 5000 years there won't be a new God to replace our current ones? You can say there won't be a new God in 5000 more years, but can you say you will control that? Really? That what the world will be like 5000 years in the future is determined by you?
God lives outside of time and creation....human live in both Time and creation... so we will never get it
Revelations 3:14 is where you get your answer .