The last 45 seconds of the closer, when they change chords...OMG!! Spectacular!! I so hope the corps can maintain their uniqueness within the activity. All the best wishes in the world!!!
This show tried to do too much-- it tried to capture a complex, introspective two hour production on the subject of Christian ritual, all in thirteen minutes. The entirety of Bernstein's Mass in thirteen minutes? Come on. That's not only impossible, but that kind of hyper-adaptation not recommended in any medium. You can't include every plot point here, because it ends up looking like a fast forward instant replay. The biggest compromise in the paring down of the original appears in the ending here, which is completely different in tone than the original production. Here Cadets' ending suggests some kind of halcyon air of forgiveness and reconciliation, and that's the opposite intention of the original. The original's intention was to raise questions about the nature and purpose of organized religion, and even cast an air of doubt about how organized religion quashes creativity and inspiration with onerous, tired ritual without meaning. In the original, the ending is dubious and full of questions. But in this production, the confetti canon ending is about joy and forgiveness, and that Jesus on a gold cross will save us all. Cadets' designers also fell victim here to the hurried pace of modern drill design. As a result, the stage picture changes frantically. As a result, the performers are rushing and scrambling about as if ants before a rain storm. Their motions are so harried that they simply don't make sense. They pick up a prop, dance with it like they're on crack, and then a moment later, throw the prop down and rush to do something else. They look frenzied, lost, and panicked, as if their underwear are on fire. They change costumes for no apparent reason. They appear disjointed, confused, bifurcated and without any super objective. Worse, in this production, we have no one character to hold on to as a through line. Everything is a tumultuous wash of panicked scrambling and discarded costume pieces. Any through line or understructure is lost. The frantic staging here proves that the very essence of the piece Bernstein's Mass was missed by the designers. They were so busy packing in multiple metaphoric stage pictures from the various movements, that the audience lost focus, and gave up on grasping any kind of overall meaning to the production. By the end of the season, the designers sort of landed on the sin/forgiveness/joy template, which is simplistic and doesn't capture the complexity of the original work. Another example of adaptation problems is they start with chaos, same as the original production of Mass, but then chaos appears again in this short production about three quarters of the way through, right before the atonement section, and makes the audience wonder about why chaos appears so often. Cut the initial chaos before the mass begins in a short thirteen minute production like this. Amid all the dance and metaphoric movement and stage pictures, and symbolism, and hectic running around, we see one churchgoer 9:18 sit in the pew alone, he makes the sign of the cross (with the wrong hand), and he changes his garment. This should have been the entire focus of the piece. One man, one introspection. This one heretic visiting the empty church alone, and his subtle transformation throughout the piece could have been the understructure for the entire production, and could have given the piece clarity and depth. Adaptations in drum corps require extra attention to the script, to make sure the essence of the piece is clear, and to make sure it's authentic to the original in some aspect. But that clarity and authenticity were missing here amid the scrambling to include too much. Passionately performed. Seventh place.
G. Adamson is that supposed to be funny? Right now it’s us the conservatives that are in power. Surprisingly. The progressives are insanely good at brainwashing so I’m surprised our president won. Thank god he did however!
The camera work was better then finals DCI produced more creative angles even though this is for a specific fan base (drummers) I think they could add new dimensions to the broadcast/taping
I marched in drum corps in 1980\1981 and am from California. For years, I've always admired the Cadets, their style, and their repertoire. I had no idea that they were Christians and their faith was so strong. Although I follow the Blue Devils and SCV, the Cadets are my new favorite corps! God bless each one of you! Keep up the great work! You guys are awesome!
I’m beginning to suspect that the downward trend (in placement) for corps like the cadets is not due to them putting on worse shows, or having worse performers. This show is no less impressive or entertaining as the shows in recent years. I think that the crux is that DCI in general is getting better, with more performers and better writing, and the competition is just getting more fierce.
I'm a big fan of operas and symphonies, but it sure seems like there's a lot more innovation going on in DCI at the moment (not the electronics...other stuff haha). Would be nice if we saw more change in the concert hall. I think the video game and movie soundtracks are a decent first start. We could also play a bit more 20th century and modern music :) It seems that I hear more new music at DCI shows, than the concert hall. But being a brass activity, I suppose it lends itself more to new music.
1981 they placed 7th and they hadn't until this year. 1982 they placed third and won three world championships the following years. No doubt they will succeed.
the cadets are going to perform a 1960s show and a drill that's going to bring back the old time drum corps tradition. the kids will love performing old time, real drum corps.
Dan Currier Don't be one of those "back in my day" kind of drum corps fan. The shows today are much harder than they were back then. The activity is always evolving and it's great.
Dan - I did not mind your original comment, and I am sure the kids will work their butts off and preform an amazing show like they always do. That second comment is where you really went off the rails. A TRUE fan, an ADULT, someone with a HEART, would never belittle the young adults who work their tails off, leaving it all on the field, CHOOSING to be in drum corps because they love it and love entertaining US... the fans, and want to continue the tradition of excellence that started decades ago. EVERYTHING changes, and people like you who purposely choose to comment such negative NON supportive unnecessary BULL**it need to STOP. We get it, you loved "old time drum corps" SO DO THESE YOUNG ADULTS who join DRUM CORPS today, and today's Corps are no less REAL than corps in the past... so next time you feel like commenting some B.S. just think how bad it makes YOU look, because it does nothing but make you look BAD and does not add anything of value to anything, maybe choose to say THANK you to these kids for providing all of us with such amazing shows... if you have nothing nice to say STFU!!!
I saw the Tom Aungst sticks, but they had no maroon coating? Are these going to be produced, and the coated sticks are going to be retired??? Please respond
Drumline Enthusiast hey I was in front ensemble and Vic Firth made those special because they complained the other ones were slippery when they got sweaty. So Tom called and got those special ordered.
Being someone who is non religious: I don't understand a single thing that is going on here. This is also the most religious show I have ever seen in my entire life. The show sounded amazing, could have dialed back on the choir, but still a very impressive show. Just very confusing.
As pathetic as I find religion and religious people, this show really grew on me over the course of this summer. Maybe it's the Bernstein, maybe it's the classic Cadets drill, but whatever it was about this show that roped me in, I definitely think it should've placed above BAC and Cavaliers. Oh well, they'll most likely be back with more Lenny for the next few summers, so hopefully they'll have better luck with future productions.
You find religious people and religion pathetic? Surely you don’t mean that or aren’t making an intellectual statement. I rather assume you don’t mean that.
NO NO NO!..... Back in the day, the Cadets of burgen county were NOT relying on tech to help them along to successive titles... It was all about individual excellence and not the implementation of technology. Please get back to talent over tech!
Too far from the religious aspect; very offensive at certain points. Also, the reason why they got 7th was because of everything wrong that George Hopkins did, somewhat hurting his reputation and the judges low-key seeing that.
It's from Bernstein's Mass and from another commenter, @Jesu Spectre, it's supposed to show the problems in organized religion and towards the end, spark questions in the audience's mind about how pointless it now seems. So yes, that may be why it seems offensive at parts. But there were also the problems of ineffectively cramming a 2 hour musical into 10% of that time, also with the performers being too frenzied and chaotic which didn't allow for much of a plot and depth. The performers were fantastic and passionate, but it wasn't enough to mask the rushed nature of the development/writing. I'm not a huge fan of the Cadets so I haven't heard about what George Hopkins did, but I'd like to know.
Lavernius Tucker He's been accused of sexual assault. I think it was 2 or 3 women that came out and spoke out about it. They were girls who marched Cadets in the early 2000's, I think. I can't remember, but yeah. Sexual assault. No good. Goodbye Hop Georgekins.
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Lord give me the strength to accept that they got 7th
If 7th is bad, you’d have a heart attack seeing the condition of this year’s show then
TweetyBird it’s pretty sad too that show deserves a good top 5
This show is one of my favorite shows of 2017!
Would love to see Jeff Prosperie's finals percussion tape for Cadets.
The entrance at 5:37 gives me chills every time
The last 45 seconds of the closer, when they change chords...OMG!! Spectacular!! I so hope the corps can maintain their uniqueness within the activity. All the best wishes in the world!!!
Rip 😢
WOW! Amazing editing at the end there with the Vic First logo appearing on the last hit. Really great view of the show and fantastic editing.
"Hey what's up guys, Tony here with the Cadet video series."
Bass line killin it
4:11 chills, I love how the eight notes without the horns rings out in between the massive horn backed ones
LET US PRAY!!!1!!!!!!
This show tried to do too much-- it tried to capture a complex, introspective two hour production on the subject of Christian ritual, all in thirteen minutes. The entirety of Bernstein's Mass in thirteen minutes? Come on. That's not only impossible, but that kind of hyper-adaptation not recommended in any medium. You can't include every plot point here, because it ends up looking like a fast forward instant replay. The biggest compromise in the paring down of the original appears in the ending here, which is completely different in tone than the original production. Here Cadets' ending suggests some kind of halcyon air of forgiveness and reconciliation, and that's the opposite intention of the original. The original's intention was to raise questions about the nature and purpose of organized religion, and even cast an air of doubt about how organized religion quashes creativity and inspiration with onerous, tired ritual without meaning. In the original, the ending is dubious and full of questions. But in this production, the confetti canon ending is about joy and forgiveness, and that Jesus on a gold cross will save us all.
Cadets' designers also fell victim here to the hurried pace of modern drill design. As a result, the stage picture changes frantically. As a result, the performers are rushing and scrambling about as if ants before a rain storm. Their motions are so harried that they simply don't make sense. They pick up a prop, dance with it like they're on crack, and then a moment later, throw the prop down and rush to do something else. They look frenzied, lost, and panicked, as if their underwear are on fire. They change costumes for no apparent reason. They appear disjointed, confused, bifurcated and without any super objective. Worse, in this production, we have no one character to hold on to as a through line. Everything is a tumultuous wash of panicked scrambling and discarded costume pieces. Any through line or understructure is lost.
The frantic staging here proves that the very essence of the piece Bernstein's Mass was missed by the designers. They were so busy packing in multiple metaphoric stage pictures from the various movements, that the audience lost focus, and gave up on grasping any kind of overall meaning to the production. By the end of the season, the designers sort of landed on the sin/forgiveness/joy template, which is simplistic and doesn't capture the complexity of the original work. Another example of adaptation problems is they start with chaos, same as the original production of Mass, but then chaos appears again in this short production about three quarters of the way through, right before the atonement section, and makes the audience wonder about why chaos appears so often. Cut the initial chaos before the mass begins in a short thirteen minute production like this.
Amid all the dance and metaphoric movement and stage pictures, and symbolism, and hectic running around, we see one churchgoer 9:18 sit in the pew alone, he makes the sign of the cross (with the wrong hand), and he changes his garment. This should have been the entire focus of the piece. One man, one introspection. This one heretic visiting the empty church alone, and his subtle transformation throughout the piece could have been the understructure for the entire production, and could have given the piece clarity and depth.
Adaptations in drum corps require extra attention to the script, to make sure the essence of the piece is clear, and to make sure it's authentic to the original in some aspect. But that clarity and authenticity were missing here amid the scrambling to include too much. Passionately performed. Seventh place.
Neon Wolf dude you literally have LEGO gameplay on your channel, let the guy have his comment.
Dude. Are you a DCI judge? wtf
Jesus Christ, dude.
April... bidding my time until summer & the '19 shows... but DANG!! ...hadn't seen enough of this Cadets gem! THUNDEROUS
this is a CHRISTIAN drum corps so NO SWEARING
Never hear of a christian drum corps. Must be something new the republican party is doing
G. Adamson that doesn’t even make sense
G. Adamson is that supposed to be funny? Right now it’s us the conservatives that are in power. Surprisingly. The progressives are insanely good at brainwashing so I’m surprised our president won. Thank god he did however!
@@Ebidle Still feel that way now?
@@Ebidle You're dumb asf lmao
I freaking loved this show
kuestersteffen judging by your use of freaking. You only like it due to the religious subject
The camera work was better then finals DCI produced more creative angles even though this is for a specific fan base (drummers) I think they could add new dimensions to the broadcast/taping
That closer!!! wow
SOOOOO Good!!
AMEN
Sam Hoffacker Yes Lord!!!! May God be with you!!
De Profundis was fucking insane
7th place percussion section my ass
I marched in drum corps in 1980\1981 and am from California. For years, I've always admired the Cadets, their style, and their repertoire. I had no idea that they were Christians and their faith was so strong. Although I follow the Blue Devils and SCV, the Cadets are my new favorite corps! God bless each one of you! Keep up the great work! You guys are awesome!
Where did you march?
Great work
Love this show.
HALLELUYAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE LIVES!! 🙌🏾😃 I love 9:27! Go Victor! May Holy Name be blessed!
I’m beginning to suspect that the downward trend (in placement) for corps like the cadets is not due to them putting on worse shows, or having worse performers. This show is no less impressive or entertaining as the shows in recent years. I think that the crux is that DCI in general is getting better, with more performers and better writing, and the competition is just getting more fierce.
I'm a big fan of operas and symphonies, but it sure seems like there's a lot more innovation going on in DCI at the moment (not the electronics...other stuff haha). Would be nice if we saw more change in the concert hall. I think the video game and movie soundtracks are a decent first start. We could also play a bit more 20th century and modern music :) It seems that I hear more new music at DCI shows, than the concert hall. But being a brass activity, I suppose it lends itself more to new music.
Steve Buscemi You can't blame the performers for this only the design team
Ryan I didn't blame anyone I said the quality of the Cadets has stayed about the same while their competition has gotten better
Centrist Drummer It depends on the competition of each year. Phantom 09' anyone?
I agree
Not even Jesus could save George Hopkins from what was to come
Ryland Cook George is responsible for George, and that's why he got fired.
1981 they placed 7th and they hadn't until this year. 1982 they placed third and won three world championships the following years. No doubt they will succeed.
Ryan Their 🥁 line this year is 🔥.
That's a weird way of saying 7th place at finals again
They placed 7th, then 9th. Hopefully things will look better next year
Yo Vic, when are we getting those unpainted Tom Aungst Signatures?
SAME.
You won't! Only for them that summer
@@noahcole6622 darn
All the youngsters in the cdi clips just freak me out.they are musically amazing.
This should've gotten way better than 7th place
i totaly agree!
Bob Jones ???
Why?
Bob Jones no listen to e=mc2
Devin Schaal amen (no pun intended)
cranked
Crown 17 show was better🥱😮💨
Such an amazing show! Suprised they got 7th place
the cadets are going to perform a 1960s show and a drill that's going to bring back the old time drum corps tradition. the kids will love performing old time, real drum corps.
Dan Currier I can’t help but chuckle whenever people unironically believe old school drum corps is “real drum corps”
old time drum corps was great. pet formed by real men and women. no dancing , no prancing, no bells.
Hahahahahaha sure thing man. Whatever you say.
Drum corps is still an activity that exhibits the same standard of expertise and skill.
Dan Currier Don't be one of those "back in my day" kind of drum corps fan. The shows today are much harder than they were back then. The activity is always evolving and it's great.
Dan - I did not mind your original comment, and I am sure the kids will work their butts off and preform an amazing show like they always do. That second comment is where you really went off the rails. A TRUE fan, an ADULT, someone with a HEART, would never belittle the young adults who work their tails off, leaving it all on the field, CHOOSING to be in drum corps because they love it and love entertaining US... the fans, and want to continue the tradition of excellence that started decades ago. EVERYTHING changes, and people like you who purposely choose to comment such negative NON supportive unnecessary BULL**it need to STOP. We get it, you loved "old time drum corps" SO DO THESE YOUNG ADULTS who join DRUM CORPS today, and today's Corps are no less REAL than corps in the past... so next time you feel like commenting some B.S. just think how bad it makes YOU look, because it does nothing but make you look BAD and does not add anything of value to anything, maybe choose to say THANK you to these kids for providing all of us with such amazing shows... if you have nothing nice to say STFU!!!
Get those kids some shade!
🔥
This closer is very similar to Carolina crown 2008 haha
Yea its a plagal cadence from Eb to Bb
I saw the Tom Aungst sticks, but they had no maroon coating? Are these going to be produced, and the coated sticks are going to be retired??? Please respond
Drumline Enthusiast hey I was in front ensemble and Vic Firth made those special because they complained the other ones were slippery when they got sweaty. So Tom called and got those special ordered.
spKyleG that's always my problem with the coated sticks
i like how the show after this is titled "demonic thesis"
Great music but the Christian aspect was too overboard for me.
ATAT2199 that's the point of the show, and the cadets 🤣 Holy Name
ATAT2199 It was so campy that I thought they were being satirical.
Steve Buscemi they were. It’s throwing shots at the Catholic Church.
It is satirical
I'm surprised they said goddamn good
Love the cadets! But not this show. Show concept let these kids down.
Samuel Pentecost Oh yea because that got in the way of an amazing summer
Being someone who is non religious: I don't understand a single thing that is going on here. This is also the most religious show I have ever seen in my entire life. The show sounded amazing, could have dialed back on the choir, but still a very impressive show. Just very confusing.
I think it was supposed to be a satire of Catholicism?
@@jackaguirre8576 I don't know but considering they used to be the Holy Cadets probably not
Ever creamed over a chord?
Yes. 12:35
Jeez Hopkins. Get off the field
Too much singing
At least we didn’t have too much amplification
Taylor Hughes Good point
If you thought that was too much singing, listen to Carolina Crown 2017 "It is"
Welcome to dci 2017
gar field should have used a baton tweeter to go with this bazzard show. and tighten those Dame snares drums. they sound like table tops.
Dan Currier what were you trying to say here
The snare drummer looks as if he is in a great deal of pain.
As pathetic as I find religion and religious people, this show really grew on me over the course of this summer. Maybe it's the Bernstein, maybe it's the classic Cadets drill, but whatever it was about this show that roped me in, I definitely think it should've placed above BAC and Cavaliers. Oh well, they'll most likely be back with more Lenny for the next few summers, so hopefully they'll have better luck with future productions.
woah, edgy
John Cruz tru
ALLERGIC TO YOU *tips fedora*
Hope you don't cut yourself on that edge, bud.
You find religious people and religion pathetic? Surely you don’t mean that or aren’t making an intellectual statement. I rather assume you don’t mean that.
weird singing no.
Why isn't anyone making a show about my Lord and Savior , Satan my sweet Satan.
Jose Saavedra why would you worship Satan? Surely you’re not that foolish
Roberto Esquivel 👌😇👌
@@drumcorps0junkie 🤔
I mean crown did in 15
Scv did too with the Devils Staircase 2011
NO NO NO!..... Back in the day, the Cadets of burgen county were NOT relying on tech to help them along to successive titles... It was all about individual excellence and not the implementation of technology. Please get back to talent over tech!
Scott Casey The Cadets*
Stfu
Devin Schaal nice
Scott Casey ❤️🔎😇🔍❤️
Shit you’re right we should have had talent :////
Sorry we suck man, we’ll try harder next time just for you, boomer
Too far from the religious aspect; very offensive at certain points. Also, the reason why they got 7th was because of everything wrong that George Hopkins did, somewhat hurting his reputation and the judges low-key seeing that.
It's from Bernstein's Mass and from another commenter, @Jesu Spectre, it's supposed to show the problems in organized religion and towards the end, spark questions in the audience's mind about how pointless it now seems. So yes, that may be why it seems offensive at parts. But there were also the problems of ineffectively cramming a 2 hour musical into 10% of that time, also with the performers being too frenzied and chaotic which didn't allow for much of a plot and depth. The performers were fantastic and passionate, but it wasn't enough to mask the rushed nature of the development/writing. I'm not a huge fan of the Cadets so I haven't heard about what George Hopkins did, but I'd like to know.
Centrist Drummer I wonder why George did what he did?
Lavernius Tucker
He's been accused of sexual assault. I think it was 2 or 3 women that came out and spoke out about it. They were girls who marched Cadets in the early 2000's, I think. I can't remember, but yeah. Sexual assault. No good. Goodbye Hop Georgekins.