You can't say Copa America is sh!t just because you lose a match due to your own team uncapability to win, that's childish. Your team doesn't have enough experience on this sport, that's clear. In South America we enjoy this tournament no matter which team wins cause we love football (soccer), you need to learn to lose, that's when you have the opportunity to learn from your mistakes, but in this way you won't learn a thing
I agree with this guy with what he says about Copa America compared to the Euro Cup. The Copa America is not a very good tournament. It used to be a good tournament in the 90's and before that time but after that it became irrelevant, Copa Libertadores and World Cup qualifying are the real competition of South America.
Quit coping for your god-awful competition. You literally have refs that are actively being investigated for bribery allegations working this tournament. It's pathetic.
Weah's red card was definitely worse than Carasquilla's. You are letting the fact that that could have been what we needed to tie up the game get to your heart rather than the fact that literally punching someone is so beyond the pale. Dempsey got banned for a half season for ripping up the red card he was giving. Punching someone is on that level of infraction for me. I don't want to see Weah on the team for the rest of the year. *WE MUST SET THE PRECEDENT THAT GETTING A STUPID RED CARD IN A HIGH PRESSURE GAME IS UNACCEPTABLE! EVEN IF THEY SAY THE N WORD EVEN IF THEY RIDE UP YOUR ASS. YOU COST US THE TOURNAMENT YOU'RE OUT PERIOD!*
Refeering was emaculate. VAR did its job and the referee acknowledge his mistakes on 2 wrong calls. On red cards and goals, he did his job and did not rush to conclusions that altered the game. You are insane if you think refereeing was bad
I think these red cards are all a part of the "culture" that they hired GGG for the guys that do the dumb things are the guys that like him, they like him because he is a buddy to them and they don't fear him at all so they do this dumb shit and fuck the team over
The only problem with that, who is better than these players? So do we just put on worse players to make a point? If that is your stance, don't get mad when take some Ls
@@ashen_BA-Pillman Refeering was emaculate. VAR did its job and the referee acknowledge his mistakes on 2 wrong calls. On red cards and goals, he did his job and did not rush to conclusions that altered the game. US is not that good and you all just find excuses, goodness gracious.
Does anyone realistically think Weah would do the same thing in a game for Juventus? I really don't think so. And the same question came to mind when Dest got his red against T&T. No chance he punts the ball into the crowd in a game for PSV. Players get emotional, and most coaches will actually take more players whose passion borders on emotional reactivity. They just know it's a responsibility at their level to set a standard for what is acceptable or not, and to prepare them to manage their emotions, especially in critical games. This is GGG's failure as much as Weah's. Add to it that after the red-card, Weah could not do anything to remedy the issue. He's literally in the locker room. GGG is still on the sidelines. He still has options available to prevent us from ceding 75/25 possession and finally breaking under all the pressure.
@@YanksAbroadPod USSF needs to get serious about this team and hire a good coach. We’re hosting the World Cup, and no one in this country will care if the men don’t WIN important matches!!
Bunker strategy after half time and still lost, easy blame for GGG he shouldve been fired 4 years ago he lacks any awareness and its clear the players think of him as a buddy not a figure of authority
The fact that we experienced almost the same exact thing recently versus T&T, but that this time around GGG had no more useful of tactical response, says enough. It's a failure of leadership and preparation, and that falls on him. He only ever has Plan A, and doesn't prepare the team for all the reasonable scenarios that can occur, like a sending off. The sending off itself also connects back to him, in particular after Dest's childish red. Berhalter has either failed to enforce the type of necessary discipline and mentality after that experience, or he's tried but his message isn't resonating with the players who don't respect him. Either of those is very bad, and there's no way a coach in either position should keep his job.
Turner's goal would have been saved if he was healthy. He should have went off immediately after that injury. Even before that his distribution was getting worse and worse. He had to get out immediately and he cost us a goal with his pride
My starting lineup is Horvath, Robinson, Ream, Richards, Scally, Johnny, (Bring Adams on at Halftime if Jonny sucks don't waste a sub for a 45 minute Adam) Reyna, Tillman, Pulisic, Sargent, Balogun. 4-4-2 this shit One route ball bring it back to 2002 enough of this out the back bullshit full counter bring the Pace merchants out run Uruguay
Why do people think a minute restriction is only the coaches choice? Sure he does have final say, but if the players club asked nicely, it really doesn't make sense to burn bridges
The problem is not Tim Weah but Gregg Berhalter who could not manage a win or draw. His subs were horrendous. He took out Balogun when he has been scoring and still had a lot left. Gregg was the one at fault, Tim Weah is just hiding the fact that Gregg should not have manage this team past the WC! We need a better coach what Gregg did in last WC is as much as he can do with this team.
I think I rather keep Reyna in the middle and put Pulisic on the right and Haji on the left. Maybe even start both Jonny and Adams. I don't think Weston has been good for a bit now. Bring on Musah for Jonny if need more oomph later. One thing that worries me is after the shift most of these players just put in we might have some heavy legs out there. Also, GGG was not fired. His contract was up.
I have to agree that Weah's punch (seemed like more of a slap/swipe to me) was significantly less violent than several other plays. Most notably, the challenge on Turner. That took him out of the game. Panama's player who Weah hit laid on the ground for a few minutes but was not actually hurt, and had zero problems continuing for the full 90. The deliberate shoulder charge against Scally was also absurd. That's just a violent play with zero interest in playing the ball. The contact was significantly more forceful than Weah's contact. It's just that they have this zero tolerance for contact above the shoulders, and that terrible foul was a body blow. Personally, I think they really need to review that rule. Imagine a scenario where Scally got up and put his hand up against the Panama player's neck/face, without even really applying force. He's getting a red card. But, which of the two is objectively less violent, and also not the result of instigation?
The USMNT hasn't learn to play by getting in your opponents nerves, some Concacaf and Conmebol teams will straight up spit on you. USMNT needs to learn to play with evil intent, or at least learn how to deal with it.
As bad as the referee was and as undisciplined Tim's action, the reason for the loss rest directly on the shoulders of the buffoon manager - #berhalterout
Hey, first time tuning in here so I don't know your names but Weah's foul was a lot more blatant, it's not even a question. I don't know if it hurt more of whatever but it could be punished even worse and would be too if this were another sport. The tackle on the other hand (and it was a dirty tackle admittedly) is a part of the game and could be even seen as tactical play if you are so inclined. Punching someone is not tactical play, it's the surest way of getting yourself into trouble.
Given how bad Malik Tillman has been, it makes no sense to bring him in for Reyna. You keep Reyna in and if he’s absolutely gassed, you bring in another winger like Brendan or Haji and move Pulisic to the 10. Playing Malik Tillman is like playing CCV- you can’t do it in a win or go home.
The whole world is pointing hands on Tim weah, listen, panama has been getting woop by USMT every year, but this time , they prepare mentally tough against a very good team that's full of stars and they said that they gonna find an angry great player in USMT team and make him lose his mind, and that's they find Tim weah with angry issue and got on his head and make him get a yellow card, right there, the usmt players got devasted and lost interest with each other and lost to panama period. Mexico was tryna do the same game plan cause they know how good USMT is, and they look for one good player from USMT with angry issues and get him out with the red card. That's how the average team does to great teams period
American football should start from the ground up Natural grass field + promotion agent
Panamanian 😎
lol
US education system at its best
You can't say Copa America is sh!t just because you lose a match due to your own team uncapability to win, that's childish. Your team doesn't have enough experience on this sport, that's clear. In South America we enjoy this tournament no matter which team wins cause we love football (soccer), you need to learn to lose, that's when you have the opportunity to learn from your mistakes, but in this way you won't learn a thing
I agree with this guy with what he says about Copa America compared to the Euro Cup. The Copa America is not a very good tournament. It used to be a good tournament in the 90's and before that time but after that it became irrelevant, Copa Libertadores and World Cup qualifying are the real competition of South America.
thank you for the ted talk
Quit coping for your god-awful competition. You literally have refs that are actively being investigated for bribery allegations working this tournament. It's pathetic.
Weah's red card was definitely worse than Carasquilla's.
You are letting the fact that that could have been what we needed to tie up the game get to your heart rather than the fact that literally punching someone is so beyond the pale.
Dempsey got banned for a half season for ripping up the red card he was giving. Punching someone is on that level of infraction for me. I don't want to see Weah on the team for the rest of the year.
*WE MUST SET THE PRECEDENT THAT GETTING A STUPID RED CARD IN A HIGH PRESSURE GAME IS UNACCEPTABLE! EVEN IF THEY SAY THE N WORD EVEN IF THEY RIDE UP YOUR ASS. YOU COST US THE TOURNAMENT YOU'RE OUT PERIOD!*
Weah needs to be gone yeaterday
No, I just know young makes stupid mistakes. I don't care either way, just hate opining and whinnying
Complete agree, Sargent coming on while we got 3 or 4 FK chances why is Haji not On
insane
Awful refereeing but we need to be accountable as a squad
yup
Cope 😂
Refeering was emaculate. VAR did its job and the referee acknowledge his mistakes on 2 wrong calls. On red cards and goals, he did his job and did not rush to conclusions that altered the game.
You are insane if you think refereeing was bad
Ref made good calls 🤣
To whom, you? Seems very egotistical.
I think these red cards are all a part of the "culture" that they hired GGG for the guys that do the dumb things are the guys that like him, they like him because he is a buddy to them and they don't fear him at all so they do this dumb shit and fuck the team over
There has been like 2 bad red cards in the 5 years he has been coach
The only problem with that, who is better than these players? So do we just put on worse players to make a point? If that is your stance, don't get mad when take some Ls
Ref carried Panama to victory, GGG subs were the worst I’ve seen, taking off Balogun and Reyna was so bad
GGG gotta go
Yeah the referee punch the Panama player and score the two goals
@@EricManzane 12 against 10 you know what I meant
@@ashen_BA-Pillman Refeering was emaculate. VAR did its job and the referee acknowledge his mistakes on 2 wrong calls. On red cards and goals, he did his job and did not rush to conclusions that altered the game.
US is not that good and you all just find excuses, goodness gracious.
@@ashen_BA-Pillman yes, that's why they gave a penalty kick to Panama and just one day of suspension to Carrasquilla
Does anyone realistically think Weah would do the same thing in a game for Juventus? I really don't think so.
And the same question came to mind when Dest got his red against T&T. No chance he punts the ball into the crowd in a game for PSV.
Players get emotional, and most coaches will actually take more players whose passion borders on emotional reactivity. They just know it's a responsibility at their level to set a standard for what is acceptable or not, and to prepare them to manage their emotions, especially in critical games.
This is GGG's failure as much as Weah's.
Add to it that after the red-card, Weah could not do anything to remedy the issue. He's literally in the locker room. GGG is still on the sidelines. He still has options available to prevent us from ceding 75/25 possession and finally breaking under all the pressure.
this is a great point
Well has anyone asked Weah or Dest what was wrong atm?
It’s on Berhalter.
agreed
@@YanksAbroadPod USSF needs to get serious about this team and hire a good coach. We’re hosting the World Cup, and no one in this country will care if the men don’t WIN important matches!!
My new favorite USMNT Pod. "I'm wrecking the set". A pair of legends.
lets go!
Bunker strategy after half time and still lost, easy blame for GGG he shouldve been fired 4 years ago he lacks any awareness and its clear the players think of him as a buddy not a figure of authority
completely agree
The fact that we experienced almost the same exact thing recently versus T&T, but that this time around GGG had no more useful of tactical response, says enough. It's a failure of leadership and preparation, and that falls on him. He only ever has Plan A, and doesn't prepare the team for all the reasonable scenarios that can occur, like a sending off.
The sending off itself also connects back to him, in particular after Dest's childish red. Berhalter has either failed to enforce the type of necessary discipline and mentality after that experience, or he's tried but his message isn't resonating with the players who don't respect him. Either of those is very bad, and there's no way a coach in either position should keep his job.
This loss is on the Weah and Greg. Also the ref made good calls ☠️
The US isn't advancing. We need to accept that
the guy on the left needs to go back to the world series
huh?
Turner's goal would have been saved if he was healthy. He should have went off immediately after that injury. Even before that his distribution was getting worse and worse. He had to get out immediately and he cost us a goal with his pride
My starting lineup is
Horvath, Robinson, Ream, Richards, Scally, Johnny, (Bring Adams on at Halftime if Jonny sucks don't waste a sub for a 45 minute Adam) Reyna, Tillman, Pulisic, Sargent, Balogun.
4-4-2 this shit One route ball bring it back to 2002 enough of this out the back bullshit full counter bring the Pace merchants out run Uruguay
Why do people think a minute restriction is only the coaches choice? Sure he does have final say, but if the players club asked nicely, it really doesn't make sense to burn bridges
The problem is not Tim Weah but Gregg Berhalter who could not manage a win or draw. His subs were horrendous. He took out Balogun when he has been scoring and still had a lot left. Gregg was the one at fault, Tim Weah is just hiding the fact that Gregg should not have manage this team past the WC! We need a better coach what Gregg did in last WC is as much as he can do with this team.
Basically this show is, hindsight 20/20.
Watch our livestream during each game and you'll see it's also foresight 20/20!
@@YanksAbroadPod I wish it were, but it isn't. What you are asking is for me to take opinions as fact, when they just are opinions
Calls were right in every aspect, to the cards to the no penalty. Our boys completely lost the plot.
antonne robinson and joe scally are liabilities, not very technical.
especially antonee
@@YanksAbroadPodhow he was legit the best player
Yeah... PTI soccer just isn't my thing. #BerhalterOut
Also, Reyna is way too good to be subbed for Tillman.
both
I think I rather keep Reyna in the middle and put Pulisic on the right and Haji on the left. Maybe even start both Jonny and Adams. I don't think Weston has been good for a bit now. Bring on Musah for Jonny if need more oomph later. One thing that worries me is after the shift most of these players just put in we might have some heavy legs out there. Also, GGG was not fired. His contract was up.
Weah's red was certainly detrimental but Berhalter's idiotic substitutions and tactics cost us the game.
not really, it is dumb to think that
Bielsa > Berhalter
...nuff said
ya think?
Turners goal conceded was impossible to save. Horvaths save was easier.
I have to agree that Weah's punch (seemed like more of a slap/swipe to me) was significantly less violent than several other plays. Most notably, the challenge on Turner. That took him out of the game. Panama's player who Weah hit laid on the ground for a few minutes but was not actually hurt, and had zero problems continuing for the full 90.
The deliberate shoulder charge against Scally was also absurd. That's just a violent play with zero interest in playing the ball. The contact was significantly more forceful than Weah's contact. It's just that they have this zero tolerance for contact above the shoulders, and that terrible foul was a body blow.
Personally, I think they really need to review that rule. Imagine a scenario where Scally got up and put his hand up against the Panama player's neck/face, without even really applying force. He's getting a red card. But, which of the two is objectively less violent, and also not the result of instigation?
i don't disagree with this take for sure
The USMNT hasn't learn to play by getting in your opponents nerves, some Concacaf and Conmebol teams will straight up spit on you.
USMNT needs to learn to play with evil intent, or at least learn how to deal with it.
Spit seems a lot better than having piss thrown on you.
As bad as the referee was and as undisciplined Tim's action, the reason for the loss rest directly on the shoulders of the buffoon manager - #berhalterout
Hey, first time tuning in here so I don't know your names but Weah's foul was a lot more blatant, it's not even a question. I don't know if it hurt more of whatever but it could be punished even worse and would be too if this were another sport. The tackle on the other hand (and it was a dirty tackle admittedly) is a part of the game and could be even seen as tactical play if you are so inclined. Punching someone is not tactical play, it's the surest way of getting yourself into trouble.
Given how bad Malik Tillman has been, it makes no sense to bring him in for Reyna. You keep Reyna in and if he’s absolutely gassed, you bring in another winger like Brendan or Haji and move Pulisic to the 10. Playing Malik Tillman is like playing CCV- you can’t do it in a win or go home.
disagree
Lol😂
Man... tbh... i don't think GGG is going anywhere... what pressure does ussf have? The only "media" that cares deeply are youtubers.... depressed...
so sad
Soon enough it will look like this overseas too.
GreGG out but fyi, that’s the same trash ref who was refereeing back in the USA vs Mexico semifinal 2023
The whole world is pointing hands on Tim weah, listen, panama has been getting woop by USMT every year, but this time , they prepare mentally tough against a very good team that's full of stars and they said that they gonna find an angry great player in USMT team and make him lose his mind, and that's they find Tim weah with angry issue and got on his head and make him get a yellow card, right there, the usmt players got devasted and lost interest with each other and lost to panama period. Mexico was tryna do the same game plan cause they know how good USMT is, and they look for one good player from USMT with angry issues and get him out with the red card. That's how the average team does to great teams period
Nice tin folil hat bro
Typical bias response we dont like the way the game turned out so the rules of the entire sport should be changed
The guy in grey doesn't in even know how to pronounce Panamanian, awfull commentator
The guy with the white shirt is correct on the red card debate. I agree with him.
Suarez is a much better finisher than Darwin Nuñez even now.