Ford Lightning Botched Bed Liner
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You guys nailed it with the “too many people too much paper” Just had my car painted under a recall and it was the same thing…even better after not having it for months they call and tell me it’s ready, I told my rep I’d come the very next day. When I showed up my rep acted shocked that I was there even tho I spoke to him, car wasn’t detailed or ready for me 🤦🏼♂️
Why do you complaint? You got at least the correct color. So whats your problem Mister???
@@wolfgangpreier9160 did you read? Didn't have the vehicle for months and the person did not listen to them because they were surprised they were there and didn't have the vehicle ready.... Not a good experience
@@joshve87 Yes, but that is totally fine with OEMs.
Your complaint is that the OEMs treat you like turd. That complaint is completely legitimate because that is just what they have been taught to do, thats what their training tells them to do, thats what they have done since they have no competition.
And now comes a uppity little startup wanting to take away their customers.
How do they react?
Business as usual. Customers must be treated like turd.
What happens if Tesla, Rivian,. Lucid, Aptera, Arcimoto try the same - and Tesla does it here in good ole Europe from time to time. They are being immediately shitbombed in social media. And they know that and try to make amends and make it better next time.
Thats what i expect of them. Make it better next time.
But dealers who have no competition and know that the laws say they will never get ANY competition will not change.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 That I totally agree 👍 💯.
Spray in is definitely the best choice. Drop in chafes the bed and holds moisture under it. Worst of all it is super slippery for the contents. The rubber mat is okay but nothing slides on it.
What I usually do for steel bolts on black is color them with a black sharpie. It is durable, cheap to repair, and comes off with acetone if you somehow want to go back to silver.
Those beds are aluminum. That doesn’t rust. Doesn’t change the whole “they should have the part” thing, but it does mean you could have used the truck for truck things
As if they would put something in to scratch the bed...
*that could
But the paint would get scratched which looks bad. Spray in bed liner is super tough. They've been around for years and probably only gotten better.
I just had Tesla come to my home and replace a sensor for the passenger seat. It took 5 minutes and the Tech was great. If you go to a ICE service center and you waste half a day. Tesla mobile service is fantastic.
I'd never go for a drop in bed liner. They're crap in my opinion. For just a little more a spray in is always the way to go on a truck. No rattling, no gaps, no getting crap between the linear and bed or body, and they aren't as frigging slippery when wet. While I hate that you had the issue, I think it was a good issue to have which forced you to the spray in, and I don't think you'll regret it.
You will be so much happier with a spray in liner. everyone I know with a drop in ends up hating it later
Seems like it would be good to have a cover over the outlets, even though they have individual covers. If you dump a load of mulch in there isn’t it going to get into those outlets?
Spray in + rubber mat is the way to go, IMO. The rubber mat takes most of the abuse, it protects items put in the bed from abrasion, and it keeps things from sliding all over the place. As a long time truck owner I don't know how people go without a rubber bed mat.
Yeah thats the setup I went with on my Lightning. Definitely the best combo.
I had a warranty issue with my 2018 Infinity QX60. The dealer here in Austin informed me that they have no rentals. No appointments allowed. First come, first served. I'd have to bring the car in and it would take about a week before they would even touch it. 🤬🤬
Great news. Been having this issue with my pick up. It’s a 2021 and been to 3 different Ram dealers with no luck with the drop in. That was a really good job they did on yours. Maybe I need to also.
I did a Line-X spray liner. The version I got is UV resistant and thicker than the normal liner so it was about $900. I am more than satisfied with the spray in.
I once spent $900 on a car, but I usually go for something more affordable.
As a contractor I always go with the spray. Line X has done 3 of my trucks and we abuse them to he'll and they've held up.
i have had trucks that i use for work for over 20 years and would only go spray in. they will outlast the life of truck. the old drop in style at time added noise(might be better now a days)
You mentioned you didn't want the bed scratched up or damaged but were going to put a drop in liner on it? They beat the bed up pretty bad. Spray on liners are the way to go. Get an undercoating too while it's new!
Thanks Zac Thanks Jesse
I've got news for you guys, Ford switched to aluminum beds back in 2015 for fuel economy. Also, the Lightning is an aluminum body. I'd still get the sparyed in bed liner, just for aesthetics; but it isn't going to rust.
I love their spray in bed liner. Super tough and gas been around for years. Another built ford tough.
spray in was my option, drop in can still get moisture under it and because it can still slide around a bit, that will wear the paint and rust will still happen, spray seals up all the spots, and if you damage it, i have, they can patch it and it will keep the rust away.
I could swear Ford started using aluminum beds in the F-150 a few years ago. Why would the EV F-150 not also have an aluminum bed to reduce weight? You might get aluminum to significantly corrode if you are constantly hauling salt or something, but it’s never going to “rust” like a steel bed. I’ll be utterly shocked if the Lightning actually come with a steel bed. 😢
Yes, the bed and body are aluminum. The frame is steel.
Ironic part about not wanting to scratch up the bed is that they scratch up the paint before spraying on the bed liner to make sure it has something to adhere to. If it’s too smooth, it won’t stick.
The liner is sprayed in a controlled environment where they know that there is not water or other debris being trapped beneath the liner prior to the application, an unlined bed which is scratched during real world use would be left out in the elements until it was lined or taken indoors, leaving it susceptible to rust and protrusion by debris. 😅
Yes, but they don't take it down to bare metal and they immediately coat it with the liner so it's protected from rust. Their concern was deep scratches in the paint allowing rust to form.
They also need to be sure all wax has been removed so a very strong solvent is used.
Welcome to my world, pretty typical experience
I thought Ford was using a no rust aluminum bed.
Get the home ford lightning back up.
Review that!!!
I am a rural Canadian. I would love an occasional special that centre's around Canadian issues, perhaps our Mexican friends feel the same. We seem to lack an equivalent to your show on the Canadian front. This also is relevant to our friends south of the border as we share al lot of the same air and water and migratory wildlife. Thanks.
I don't have a liner since its aluminum. gets scratches and IDC doesnt rust, works fine
At 4:30, there was a Tesla Model 3 in the background, Nice!
Got a spray-in bedliner in my truck and I feel it is the better choice.
The spray in is way better. Drop in will still scratch the bed as they move around a bit and sand gets under there. My Rhino spray in bed lasted 30 years, in the Sun no less, was still fine when the truck died.
Dealers need to know the products there selling AND servicing.
Don't you have an aluminum bed? Easier to dent but not likely to rust
You guys should have gotten some ford pass rewards points after buying your truck. You should have used those rewards towards the cost of the bed liner.
Looks great!
But, was the drop in from Ford part of your purchase price for the truck?
He said he built the configuration with the liner.. I don't know if they refunded the cost when they didn't deliver?
0:18 and 4:22 isnt it made of aluminum now? It would not rust if so.
Have exactly the same lightning, luckily bed liner attached, but same dealership experience. Great vehicle, horrible dealership.
Isn't the Ford lightning mostly made of Aluminum? If so, it shouldn't rust if the bed is scratched. Though, I've heard that it can be punctured easily.
Spray in all day long. Drop in bedliners suck. They eventually scratch the bed anyways.
Personally I don't use the PVC covers for pickup trucks I put the hard rubber mat I found it far superior for so many reasons
We bought a Honda Odyssey 2014 to help me get around and for work and we've already had replaced the transmission it had 80,000 miles on it the new transmission has like 88k they did not check the fluids when they gave us the vehicle so for my first car buying experience not fun
How about a lighting review? Rivian has those distinct headlights, the Lightning has fairly standard lights. The Rivian can't use the fog lights without the headlights on, the Ford can use parking lights and fog.
So, which ones work better? Which ones reach best on high beam? Which have the best view on low? Which dazzle oncoming traffic worst? In heavy fog, which one can light the road and not blind the driver?
How do they work on wet pavement?
It just seems to me that as LEDs have taken over, the performance of headlights seem to be worse. More dazzling, poorer performance, and just don't put the light where you need it.
For example, my old HIR bulbs that I retrofitted into my Volvo seem to have the best "see the road" performance of anything I've seen.
My 2014 Honda Accord plug in has a sticker on the door that says do not put in a paint booth over 150degrees or it can damage the battery. Does the lightning have any sticker like that? Just wondered if cooking the bed liner can damage the battery thanks
How long were you having to wait for the drop in liner?
If i was in US i would definitely use the Line-X for bedliner , lifetime warranty and can be applied anywhere and in anything :)
Use both this and the Rivian to haul gravel. I wanna know how each holds up!
So dumb, just rent a home depot truck and dont ruin Your truck. 19$
A lot has been made about towing issues... but what about jest oading the bed with weight, how does that affect range? Also what about utility racks. Does that kill the range as well?
Check out Kyle on Out of Spec, he did tests with the Rivian and Lightning with weight in the bed. I believe they lost like 10% fully loaded.
@@dbwelder9159 nice! Will have to check that out
2 hours to get a bedliner sprayed on doesn't sound bad. how long did you think it was going to take??
The way they were talking they probably thought about 30 minutes…
Did you make an appointment or just show up?
4:27 Of course, a Tesla had to sneak in to the video!
So could you have a Truck Cap fitted
I’m curious if you guys do any smart home stuff? I know the EV, investing, and solar content. What other tech interests you that you already use?
I don't care about the parts folks being nice I always want them to just do there damn job!!!!! And they almost always mess things up!!!!
USE that truck bed!
Did Ford stop using aluminum beds on the Lightning?
Line x or rino spray is the best option I think. It will strengthen that shitty aluminum bed lol
Had line X on a couple of my trucks and it's well worth the cost.
@@glennmikes1726 that's great man. I always tell people it's good stuff. It's military grade. I think you can coat an egg and throw it at the wall and it should stay in tact. 😁
Hard to have a rusty bed when it is aluminum
That Bed is aluminum so it wasn't going to rust. I still wouldn't have placed anything in it until I had a liner but it would have been to aviod denting it
Dudes - I get why you don't want to scratch the bed, in general, but not for rust. It's hard to rust the aluminum bed of F150's. Spray in beds are dope though.
Spray in is the best.
Most dealers don't know any thing about EV. If you ask anything basic they will always tell you "Let me ask my manager".
Gotta love (not) legacy dealers. No value add here. Remind me again why there are still laws mandating them?
A Chevrolet Volt charging next to the truck at the end?
I've sprayed all 3 of my F150s MYSELF.
SPRAY-IN IS THE WAY TO GO.
Perhaps black powder coat the bolts?
A truck with a bed that will rust out of you use it sounds like you received an unfinished defective product. [[Cybertruck to the rescue]]
I'm looking at this video thinking, why they trying to get a bed liner from a dealer for a 20+ year old truck? 🤔 As the owner of a gen 2 ⚡ I'm still trying to get used to this new EV ⚡ when I'm searching for stuff 😅
Zack your necer going to remove those screws so get them done next time.
Doesn’t Ford use an aluminum bed?
How does a new truck right off the line ship with missing parts?
FORD
F150 bed is aluminum so corrosion is much less of a concern.
My dudes. BEDRUG. Scratchy, nasty expensive bed liners are not necessary for the average pickup owner. I threw a bedrug in my Tundra and it was pretty amazing, especially for camping in the back.
Edit: apologies if none exist yet for the lightening, you can make your own cutout for outlets etc! But yeah, bedliners suck.
Motorcycle + accident = death or lost limb! Car+ accident =fender bander! People should never ride motorcycles in auto/truck traffic! One of the most important reasons to buy Tesla is safety by design!
Wait wait wait! The F150 lightening is ?NOT? the aluminum bed?????!!!!!
Isn't the bed aluminum?
I need some clarification. I thought one of the few benefits of buying a Ford was they have an aluminum made bed. Is that not the case for the lightning? I would think a few scratches on the aluminum bed wouldn’t be a big deal once you get it covered. Btw I understand the process looks like it sucked! Lol
fords have and aluminum bed. they wont rust. scratches make it look like a truck.
BS cost money and the customers has to pay the company for their BS.
I thought the ford bed was aluminum.
Why didn’t you get a bed cover like you have on the Rivian? Then you could compare the two apples to apples. By the way I’m looking at getting an F250 Lightning and the only option with a bed cover either motorized or manual is a spray on bed liner!
100 dollars for a gas cap and install
It's almost like Ford doesn't know how to build or order parts for their vehicles, after 100 years.
Why do you guys need so many vehicles?
the bed is aluminum, isn't it? no rust
imagine the legacy boys make ev for the real
Change other than the liners 🎃
Is the bed not aluminum? It shouldn't rust
Maybe not "rust" but corrode. Same result.
It’s funny, I agree with too many people and too much paper, but Tesla on the other hand lately is not enough people….. hard to find a good happy medium lol.
so did you pay for the liner??? ford should reimburse you that money.
Click Bait title... just saying that a "Botched Bed liner" would imply that they installed it and it was wrong...
Not what happened
Listen Tesla is far from perfect too. We have purchased three Tesla's so far, one that's been delivered and two more on order. The second one is set for a scheduled delivery, BUT we keep getting emails asking for MORE information. We send the info back to them and we keep getting the same darn email but from someone DIFFERENT. I realize you guys don't want to talk to a real person, BUT cars are very personal for many of us and I for ONE prefer to speak to a real person. I tried reaching someone, but they set up WALLS so you can't unless I drive to a Tesla Service Center. So I'm not too thrilled with Tesla's service level.
Way to roll up and get what you want, too bad you have to wait lol ✂️ cut out the red tape ford! 😆 . Thanks for the heads up.
It’s aluminum it won’t rust
One of thr many reasons I stopped buying Ford products!
Send Ford the bill for the spray in bed liner and the wasted day, settle for the price of the bed liner and a refund of theirs
Lots of people are very polite and...nice... and not competent.
That's part of the reason we're in the mess we're in. Who can argue against a bed liner? I'm a contractor, you don't have to convince me it's a good idea. I'm also the President of Recycle Hawaii and I know a thing or two about plastic, particularly micro plastics. We inhale a credit cards worth of microplastics every week. The particles are microscopic, passing through the blood brain barrier. They contain a cocktail of chemicals that cause cancer, endocrine disruption, and genetic mutagens. Every living thing on Earth has been contaminated. Your children are born contaminated and the milk you give your newborn baby is contaminated, be it breast milk or formula. So what's a working man supposed to do? Well, you could buy an all stainless steel truck, if there was one, hint hint. 😉
I don't get the spray in liner. FWIW I bought a used truck with one.
Honestly it is just something that I will have to remove if I every restore the bed because it did not do the job long term.
Maybe the tech has improved.
OMG what is wrong with you 2 "Spray in bed liner is the ONLY way to go! Oh but it is a Ford so it don't matter any how. LOL! And oh by the way it is available in the build to add a spray-in-bed liner for $595. Now You Know!
Have you ever really had a bed get scratched up and rusty? Really. Worked construction and only construction workers can scratch a bed enough and even then they don’t get rusty. Not wanting to scratch a truck bed is like not wanting to get a circular saw covered in saw dust.
My current F150 is 2016 and is scratched and still no rust. My brother screwed up and Rhino lined his truck. Its oxidized and everything he puts back there gets covered in black dust. Including hands and knees of pants when you climb in it.
@@schtinerbock4570 where are you located? because if you are in the Northeast of the Continental US, the road salt just eats away at the sheet metal around here.
@@wildweav F150 beds are aluminum I believe. Could be wrong. Don’t know and don’t care. Yup I don’t live with places with lots of salt. None the less the false idea that a truck bed will rust quickly has spread nation wide. I guess the upside is it creates jobs right?
Had a ford once.... never again
You have a Lightning, a Rivian, and a Cybertruck on order and there is a complaint about the spray-on being a few hundred dollars more?
Lol now you can use it? They scuff the bed to spray it. You could have scratched it up all you wanted then had it sprayed.
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