How to test the Medial Collateral ligament (MCL) of the Knee
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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John Gibbons is a sports Osteopath and a lecturer for the 'Bodymaster Method ®' and in this video he is demonstrating how to perform the valgus stress test for the medial collateral ligament (MCL) for the knee joint. Want to learn how to apply these techniques as well as other Physical Therapy CPD Courses then look on www.johngibbons...
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Playing soccer, stretched to much, and sometimes I have the sensation of blocking, can walk fine, but can't sit in a chair without minor pain
Sorry to hear that - hope you feel better soon - regards JG
When i turn my leg into that position i get that movement in my knee aswell. He dosent say how serious it is or if it will need surgery
My knee feels unstable and will lock up.I can see my mcl moving over a hump or going in and out of the joint this injury has been over 10 years now
I’m watching this even though I have no one to test on me. Honestly just looking at the way he’s putting the knee is making my knee hurt so I think it’s safe to asume I hurt my mcl.
Potentially yes, so be a bit careful for a few weeks as takes time to heal, regards JG
I fell off my bike my knee bend the wrong way I insteadly had pain in the inside of my knee. I was on my way to work so i still went that’s when I started to feel instability in my knee. The pain got worse and in the evening I could barely walk. Probalbly gonna go to the doctor tommorow 😢
A good idea - especially if it is swollen - regards JG
I got caught in a inside heel hook
Definitely felt the ligament stretch and there was small crackling. 3/21/24
Its the next day and my mcl area is sore. Will update in a week.
I don't really know who to ask about this, webmd is no help and I can't afford to go to an actual doctor right now, especially if it isn't actually anything serious. Anyway, I got injured the other day while skateboarding. I was doing a trick down a chest-high set of stairs and my knee folded under me and my ankle folded too. I heard a popping sound and was in severe pain (mostly in the ankle.) Oddly, I could pretty much walk, though it did cause the pain to worsen. That was about a week ago. I can walk now but my knee feels weird, (not too painful, just not full strength) and my ankle still hurts, higher than it did the last time I sprained my ankle. Neither the knee or the ankle are very swollen. Is this serious enough to go get checked out or should I continue the RICE method at home?
Its good thats the injury is improving and to maintain RICE is good as helps reduce and control the pain. Even minimal injuries can take 3 weeks to settle down so see whats it like in another 2 weeks, good luck, regards JG
I hit my knees into the dashboard involved in a car accident at 45-50mph. My knees got busted up and bruised and swollen. I can walk although I have to limp pretty bad and walk slow. I can put weight on although I don't really like to because it doesn't feel good. Bending is difficult because of how stiff it is. It swells right back up when I stand for much time and makes it difficult to walk. NP said I appear to have no broken patella, no damaged ligaments based off her moving it and bending it. No x-rays or anything were taken and I just ran out of my health insurance so I'm afraid to go to the Dr just to be told I'm fine. Should I be worried? I feel tenderness on the medial side of my left knee but that's also where the swelling mainly is. I'm wondering if it's bursitis? Sprained MCL? It's been 2 weeks since the accident and my swelling is improving and my bruise started running down my inner leg to my calf. I'm guessing that was fluid and blood leaving my knee
If you can weight bear and its not to painful and feels stable without any type of giving way then that is a great sign that things will be ok - 2 weeks is not that long after trauma so give it at least 4-8 weeks, especially for ligaments as they can take a lot longer to heal, - many months - good luck, regards JG
I hope it's not getting worse ....
Because it running down the calf to the inner leg sounds like peripheralization.
My knee will randomly give out and bend inwards because I sprained it during a wrestling match last year. What should I do so it won't keep hurting
You need it assessed to see how stable it is as the ACL is the main stabilising ligament of the knee and if you did this last year then it can still be an issue, get it checked and take it from there, good luck, regards JG
I had an ACL and meniscus surgery in October after having MRI done but I’m suffering from what I believe to be my MCL tear or I even may say snap it’s got that much play but my physio is just brushing it aside and saying to ask the surgeon what should I do I want to return to football as it’s almost been two years but I can’t with a unstable leg and it gives way when moving quick in certain directions
Sound like there is still a ligament issue - I would have the ACL reassessed to see if it is still intact, regards JG
I was told I have patellofemoral syndrome, but my pain on my knee is where you showed. My knees also give out on their own a lot and I believe one time it gave out so bad it could have strained my MCL. How easy is it to miss an MCL strain on an MRI? Because i dont believe i have patellofemoral syndrome
If you have pain on the inside of the knee then it could be an MCL sprain, or even a meniscal tear - if a GRADE 1 sprain then i doubt it will show on an MRI scan unless it torn, regards jG
Hey Shannon, I'm currently experiencing the same situation and I'm unsure how to proceed.. If you don't mind, how did your case progress?
Hello I tore my MCL 4 years ago and I still have issue with my knee. I get pain when I jog or try to run,my knee locks and gives, I also can’t balance on my knee at all. I was wondering what you think can be wrong?
Sounds like the medial meniscus is involved, see a decent therapist to assess you properly, regards JG
@@JohnGibbons thank you so much I appreciate it.
Hey JG, so I'm thinking I strained my MCL, but I'm not sure. The pain is not exactly where your finger was, but my pain is a bit above and closer to the knee cap. Is that still considered the MCL? I play soccer, and since the virus, my right knee has been killing me.
Hard to comment without looking at you so try and see someone where you live as sure they will help, regards jG
I am a 59 year old female and have bone on bone with osteoarthritis.....i get along pretty well though. With that being said I was walking the other day with my camera and then I came home and I sat in my reclining chair then later on when I got up my left inner part of my knee was so painful I could almost no put any weight on it at all I went to a clinic and they said I sprained or tore my MCL and put me on some steroids for six days I’m done with those. I’m still having quite a lot of pain when I stand. I’m using a crutch to get around but I’m wondering what can I do to help with this. I’ve been icing and using heat a couple times a day with some stretches..... It’s been about 2 1/2 weeks and I was actually able to ride my stationary bike for five minutes before it was too painful so I hope I’m on the right track here any advice you can give me would be so greatly appreciate it because it’s very painful thank you
Hi Kym, thanks for the message and sorry to hear about your knee pain and having OA, the idea is not to do much directly to the knee (apart from pain relief) - maybe try a simple orthotic (boots in the UK sell them) in the shoe as changing the position of the foot might give you some pain relief to the knee - can also make it worse though so do a trail and error. Also gluteal exercises will make the knee more stable - i am not suggesting deep squatting and lunging as that potentially will make things worse (depending on your technique) but theraband exercises can be of value. Look at gluteal exercises using exercise bands, regards jG
John Gibbons thank you so very much!!
I have an osgood schlatter and a very big bump but it never pains and on my right knee i have mcl pain for a long time and my inner knee cracks when bending what should i do please???
Not much you can do in reality apart form reduce your exercise routine and will eventually calm down but will take a while, regards jG
Hi
Hope you doing well
I was playing soccer trying to defend completly streched my legs like gymnast do my right knee on medial side feel like it is seprating when i push my joint medially but iam fine with walking and i can bend my knees fine but iam still afriad if i can run what would you think i have an injury in my knee or just a little strech in my knee
But can i go professional football with all these without problem???
My inner side knee always open and close when kneeling and it hurts but i run fast without pain and when kneeling my both knees gets tired
Hard to comment without looking at you but if you can run fast with no pain then sounds ok to me, Regards jG
I was back peddling , and i stepped on something slippery and my knee went inward. It swelled two days ago, swelling going down a lil , i can move my leg straight , but cant lift it up bent , thoughts?>
How is it now man? I just did something similar can move my leg straight but can't bend my knee
If I can bend my knee and straighten it pretty easy does that mean I have an mcl tear
The MCL will limit sideways motion as allows the flexion and extension, regards JG
Can a knee manipulation cause an MCL tear? I had a TPF surgery back in December and I'm recovering from it, but my ROM wasnt improving so I had to get the MUA. Ever since I had one a week or so ago the inside of my knee towards my thigh has been the cause of a lot of my pain... is it something to check out?
I doubt a knee manipulation under MUA would tear the MCL as a super strong ligament - the ligaments naturally take a while to heal (possibly 9-12 months - depending on injury) so try and wait a little longer, if not then see someone like me to check it out. regards JG
@@JohnGibbons I appreciate your input! I'll keep an eye on it lol
I did this test and I don’t experience much pain, the pain is very slight, almost like a sting. I injured my MCL about 2 years ago and I still feel a bit of pain. What do you recommend?
Ligaments can take a while to heal so try and forget about it, especially after 2 years as you said the pain is minimal. regards JG
John Gibbons thank you!
@@JohnGibbons Im in
the same situation as Jesus. Should I still do stretches or forget cold-turkey?
I fell due to black ice, the doctor said I have partially torn my my ligament.( I went to public hospital ). he failed to tell me which ligament. and he recommended me to use plaster cast which I refused and got my self a strap bandage that will fix my knee from moving. I can walk on it, it feels a little weaker. the swelling even if it is minimal, is fading away. I still feel a pop occasionally and some sloppiness when I move my leg to 90 degrees. hope you can assure me Doc. thanks for helping people.)) is it ok to walk on it ?
If possible weight bearing exercises are recommended sooner rather than later so if I was you I would try and do that as will help you in the long term. regards JG
My Knee doesn’t hurt anymore from weeks ago, but it pops on the inside and doesn’t feel like it extends all the way. It’s weird
A MCL (ligament) Can click now and again and if the knee is restricted at end range extension then it could be a meniscal tear...regards JG
I think I might've done something my MCL, but I have no idea yet. I haven't gone to my doctor. What can I do in the meantime while I get the chance to see the doc?
Claudette Martinez yea me too my left mcl is hurting so much i was doing weight lifting and playing football and when i walk or even move it hurts. theres no swelling just pain im gonna try icing it and see if its better in the morning😩😩
TamGotBandz oh man that sucks/: try not walking on it though and wear a knee brace or something similar to that that supports it
Tae-007 mines the same wayyy. it’s been like this the past almost week. i’ve had knee problems in the past but just recently is the first time i have in a few years. i’m a theatre girl and we were learning one of the dances for our play and i was jumping around on it and the pain was soo bad. i just ignored it before which probably wasn’t a good idea. i’m wearing a knee brace now because it hurts so bad
I am very confused
I completely tear my MCL ligament due to patella dislocation, my patella is still slightly dislocated, orthopaedic surgeon thinks it could be I always being like that or due to MCL tear, but he advise me to trying to start walking and exercise.
When I speak to people and study about it most of being suggest MCL grade 3 tear need surgery to repair but my surgeon think it can be fine without surgery
When I m trying to walk my leg goes sloppy and still can feel pain while resting
Not sure what to do
If anyone have same experience as me
Thanks
I been 3weeks I'm still hurting mcl do believe troe meniscus .can't walk I'm so much pain
See a therapist near you to assess your knee as sure they can help, regards JG
Its been 2 years since my knee injured, i can still walk and run but whenever I play a game with more action like basketball, it pops when I either crossover or lay up or even rebound a ball. Until now, its not healing. What should I do?
I suggest you see someone like me where you live as not much I can do without looking at you, regards JG
This is literally similar to my story!! I injured it playing basketball by sliding on rocks it’s been at least 2 years the pain is off and on. It Comes back when I do intense activities such as basketball or even running. Did you ever get yours looked at? If so did you have to have surgery ?
@@MrRligon no I havent. But still im looking forward to get check up by a physical therapist
@@MrRligon
Same with me ..and it's been 3 years
Same with me. Did u do
Anything ?
I fell stepping in a piece of paper. I hit scrapped my toes and my ankle is slightly swollen. Fell back straight onto floor. Did not hit my knee but it hurts on side (inside). Hurts when I initially stand and when my foot comes off the floor while taking steps. No swelling or bruising but tender when I press on it. I’m so upset as I’ve had two acl surgery’s and one meniscus tear on my other knee. I’m able to bear weight
Hello doctor, a week ago I tore my MCL. I got an MRI and it said that it was an intermediate to high tear. I’m not suffering from a lot of pain but the problem is I cannot lift it while I’m sitting, I try hard but there is nothing that enables it to lift. I can partially lift it up while standing though. Is this normal?
If it is a moderate to high tear then the recovery will be many weeks so relatively normal - strange there is no pain though and swelling is a normal sign as well, regards JG
John Gibbons thank you for replying! The pain is very moderate but can increase a lot for a couple of minutes. I’m just worried about the fact I cannot lift it while lying down 😢
I had ACL and MCL injuries. I had an operation . ACL injury was repaired. But they didn't repair my MCL injury with surgery. They said that if I strengthened my upper, anterior and hind leg muscles, my MCL injury would pass. I am 5 months after the operation. I continue my strength training but still my MCL injury has not healed. How long should I work? When will this injury go away? Is MCL surgery harmful? Will this situation pass? What do you suggest me? Should I use collagen?
Mine will pop out, knock the wind out of me, and will become really weak and shaky why ?
Hey doc i was playing football and one of the players fall in to my leg i didnt hear pops cuz there was so much noise coming from the crowd after the incident it was hard to walk then after 2 hours the pain decreased after 2 days there was no pain but the side part of my knee "inner side of the knee" when i touch that area it have a little pain when i bend my leg it has no pain. Could it be acl,lcl,or mcl .or its just normal pain.Thanks
Sounds like you will be ok - regards JG
I was playing basketball and I do not recall getting injured but the next day my mcl hurts. I can walk and bend my knee but the lifting of my leg is when the pain starts . Do I need a brace for support ?
If no swelling and no instability you will be fine and no brace is needed, regards JG
@@JohnGibbons hey thank you for responding !
Sir mujhe mcl ligament injury left leg right side me 4mounth se hai sir mujhe pain bhi hota hai sir me kyaa karun kyaa surgery ki jarurat hai
Thanks for the message and these ligaments take a while to settle down, regards JG
One month ago i got a hit on my outside knee while playing football and i had a heavy pain on my knee which last for 1 day and after 1 day pain almost gone and i was able to walk without much problem and after 1 month i again gone to play football again I suffered same pain as last time . When i make a move i feel an imbalance in leg and i fall to ground with huge pain . It also last for 1 day and pain almost gone but when i keep my leg in certain position i still feel some pain . Is it symptom of ligament injury or any other joint related injury? . And today i noticed when im streching my leg some poping or cracking sound inside idk what it is but no pain . Is it serious?
Hard to say without looking you - typically knee injuries in football tend to be the MCL and can be serious but generally not for the majority of injuries - try and see someone like me where you live just to assess the knee, regards jG
Hey doc i recently sprained my mcl about 3 weeks ago and i can walk now but i still can’t bend it fully all the way (i’m wearing a knee brace aswell) any help you can give me so i can’t start playing sports again and bending my knee fully?
How long did it take to heal fully
How long was your recover? I think I have the same issue
Hey JG.... I think I tore my MCL but I am not sure...it happened while playing soccer... A defender pushed my shoulder from the side and the pressure caused my knee to pop.... after taking two weeks rest I went again to the field but the moment I jumped landed on my injured knee I felt like my femur bone came out from the inside of the joint ( the side mcl is located) and felt pop again.... It's been 21 days since injury and I feel better now...swelling is gone and I dont feel any problem while walking however I am afraid of jumping as it could happen again....how much should I rest....should I join a gym for strengthening my knee? Also my knee sometimes pains at night when I do knee strengthening exercise like doing leg extensions and other exercises. Please help me
Thanks for the message and sounds like you are doing ok, the ligaments take a long time to heal and can easily take months to recover. I would join a gym and ask the instructor for an exercise programme focusing on strengthening the legs and see how you get on. regards JG
Hello, I just had an MPFL reconstruction 5 weeks ago. I twitched my leg at night, and the doctor seems to think I tore my MCL now. Have any recommendations on trying to figure this out? Is it possible for me to do that while sleeping?
I doubt you will tear the MCL whilst sleeping as normally trauma related and playing football is the main causative factor. regards jG
How long ago did you tore it?
So would you say this mcl is lax?
I think i said it was about 2mm of motion, which in reality is ok and if the left side was the same then it is normal as we are all different...Hope that helps Regards jG
I play basketball and I have this lump under my left knee cap it hurts after playing basketball for a few hours but with ice and rest I can play again in a day or so any idea if this is jumpers knee and how to get back to being pain free?
Mike Love Thyself sammmmeee
Mike Love Thyself stay off it for a while , keep it elevated use heat. Try a support bandage if none of those things are working see a doctor.
Sounds like osgoodschlatters
JG Fens you are not wrong. I only said it sounded like osgood schlatter, i didnt say it was. I obviously dont have enough info.
JG Fens all good man. Can’t diagnose someone over youtube comment section lol. Most of the time someone has a knee issue they can resolve it by fixing the hip/ ankle joints. Cheers!
Hi Sir,
I'm suffering from MCL since three weeks, can you please share me the exercise video for pain decreasing.
Thanks
Crazy Shyam Andela Hey I hope u have a speedy recovery but I think we are shit out of luck because the video was made like 3 years ago I think I tore or sprained my mcl really bad but I was wondering if u had seen any helpful videos to diagnose how bad the mcl got and if u found anything to help with pain🤕
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#MCL
Thanks for the message, regards JG
Man if you bent my knee like that the pain would send me to the moon! Can hardly bend it now.
The test is fine unless there Is an issue with the MCL, regards JG