Not questioning the writers, but didn't Juggernaut break free of a prison Galactus couldn't? I think it was that Cytorrak made a cage or something that even Galactus couldn't break through. If that's the case, how the hell could Gladiator beat him?
@@checkthemikecrophone9050 Jean helps Xavier defeat the shadow King. Jean uses her telepathy on the external to save Gambit, Jean prevents MR. Sinister's body from reforming and scatters the pieces around the globe. I know in TAS she is weak, I just don't know why; in comics she is not that helpless.
It was the last movie before selling to Disney and they were also too afraid of doing the entire crystal thing after the last big bad movie with Apocalypse.
People keep forgetting how powerful Gladiator truly is. But more people probably don't realize how much more powerful the Phoenix is than Gladiator every could be.
In the comics, Kitty Pride dressed up as Phoenix and had Nightcrawler teleport her around the room as she issued threats to the Shi'ar. Gladiator said he lacked the power to stop her. Whether or not he had a chance before, the moment he accepted she was stronger, that made her stronger. Rules of the Gladiator.
Damn! She launched Gladiator into space. 😮 I forgot about this. I always remember Gladiator punching Juggernaut around the world in one episode. This certainly tops that.
I don't know if you noticed but Gambit was the only one in this episode beside Rouge and Gladiator who was able to hurt Juggernaut. When the X men broke into Cassidy's castle Gambit throw an explosive card at the door which knock the Juggernaut on the floor. This will also explain why Gambit wasn't fighting the Juggernaut in his debut episode in season 1 as he is the one of the few who can hurt him and they wanted to show Juggernaut as a powerful enemy. I wouldn't underestimate him
Is crazy to see that the creators of the OG 90s cartoon made Jean into a damsel that constantly trips and faulter at every single opportunity she has but put some actual respect to Phoenix. She's still a damsel if she's just Jean 😭
Without kryptonite vulnerability, but with greater vulnerability to psichic assault, i guess. Gladiator is this powerful only when he feels that he's doing right thing.
Unless the Phoenix Force is magical in nature, no. Gladiator might have the same powerset as Superman but, Gladiator's powers have limits, Superman's powers do not.
What made the original series so good, aside from the voice acting and themes, were the pacing. They dedicated multipart episode lengths to important storys like the phoenix, dark phoenix, creation of the sentinels, the phalanx, beyond good and evil, these stories didn't just rush into them, they were built up before they became the focus fully. Feels like the shows reboot doesn't understand how to be patient in its story beats.
@@miscetc-tm2yt Jean being ''lame'' doesn't mean everyone else finds her lame lmao ok maybe she isn't the strongest but in the comics she's really cool tbh, the animations including Jean love making her seem weak when in reality she really isn't but i respect your opinion even if i myself don't agree.
This is what I find funny they movies had the opportunities to bring this to the big screen this shows no matter how big you are there is someone bigger. X-men to juggernaut and juggernaut to gladiator and finally Jean to gladiator
Rogue is just as strong as most mutant(obviousoy providing she can make direct contact with them)Other mutants may be to powerful for her to absorb without her losing control or passing out.But I don't think her absorbing Gladiator would be a problem.Hell,if she could hold onto him long enough,she could permanently absorb him.Of course she would permanently have his thoughts too.
LOL! Now I get why there were so many comments about Gladiator's voice in another clip. The original voice is great. What was the point of changing it at all?
@@painvillegaming4119 so didn't defeat the Phoenix Heathrow her into a planet and she destroy the planet and then defeated Thor and just about everyone in space antennas can beat the Phoenix for a lot of reasons none of those people can
@@kefkarothsephka7708 For some reason, the show re-dubbed voices. The biggest example is Storm. The voice actress changed from Iona Morris to Alison Sealy Smith and they re-dubbed all of Iona's original episodes.
Okay, so Jean is useless, the Phoenix is that crazy smart sociopath you dated in college who you broke up with over text because you were too afraid to do it in person.
This essentially settles who would win in a fight between Phoenix and Superman. Gladiator is essentially a Marvel "Superman" clone with nearly identical powers (sans speed).
"Learn the power of PHOENIX!" - Gladiator had the arrogance of never having met anyone who could challenge him or even hurt him. He really did think he was invincible. Phoenix is totally unaffected by his powers, and throws him aside, making it clear she could crush him effortlessly.
My hope is if they ever take another crack at the Phoenix They’re able to do something other than the dark Phoenix. Anybody who doesn’t know their X-Men lore would look at those movies and just assume that the Phoenix was nothing more than an unstable force moving through space or just a power-hungry entity. When in fact, the Phoenix was arguably one of the most heroic forces in the Galaxy. I don’t know about the comics, but if memory serves the only reason the Phoenix went dark was because it was tainted by human emotion. An unexpected consequence of merging with Jean.
That would have been awesome. Her preventing Annie from dying for a few seconds and a part of the phoenix noticing and merging with her. Then this piece of the phoenix would be calling for the rest of the force. This would have been nice to explain why she had the phoenix when she obliterated Apocalypse.
First Time In the Whole Series, Where they re-use the Juggernaut theme but throws Gladiator Into Space and Jean actually didn't pass out... Phoenix Gene was always Bad Ass..
Gheeeeez looks like other aliens or person like one uping each other on throwing the strongest foe there further then the previous alien or person. Daaam
Jean Grey Phoenix is in the same conversation as (average strength) Galactus in my mind, maybe slightly weaker (as Jean does ultimately nerf the entirety of the Phoenix force). So to me this video is similar to Galactus vs Silver Surfer. Think of tiers. Silver Surfer, Gladiator, Thor, Hyperion, Hulk, etc. Phoenix and Galactus are well above that.
Just in case, I think I found the answer. When the episode first aired, there was a different voice, American voice actor. To avoid paying union fees for reruns, the voice was switched to a Canadian voice actor any time the episode was aired in the future.
This wasn't a close fight. Phoenix was taking it easy on him. Phoenix has super cosmic powers in the ballpark of Galactus. Gladiator is a toy to her. Like a large talking action figure.
Hence..."Learn the power of PHOENIX! You may survive..." Making it absolutely clear that Gladiator - who considers himself invulnerable and unbeatable - is nothing to her, she allows him to attack to show his powers are useless against her, then casually throws him aside
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Gladiator sends Juggy across the planet, Phoenix sends Gladiator across the universe lol
🤣
Circle of life.
😂😂😂
BUT I'M THE GLADIATOR BITCH :(
Phoenix was like “You think you the ‘ish, well I’m the big ‘ish... don’t you understand?!?!” 😂😂😂😂
Damn I don't remember this scene. Phoenix gave him the Team Rocket treatment
He's Blasting Off Again!!!!!!!
Lmaooo 😂
Bahahahaha
That's right 😸🐈💯
Gladiator: "My powers are invincible!"
Phoenix: "I have some bad news for you"
"My powers are--" (title card)
Hahahaha
Gladiator just pwned the hell out of a powerhouse in Juggernaugt....few moments later. He gets pwned by Pheonix force Jean.
Not questioning the writers, but didn't Juggernaut break free of a prison Galactus couldn't?
I think it was that Cytorrak made a cage or something that even Galactus couldn't break through.
If that's the case, how the hell could Gladiator beat him?
@@bluewulv Gladiator is as powerful as his confidence lets him be...in the comics he withstands Phoenix force fire.
@@nunyabidness5375 Wait. Dies that mean the phoenix force is above cytorrak?
@@bluewulv Apparently so, it's the life force of Creation and Cyttorak is "a" god/demon of violence and destruction. (Never mind the animated series.)
Juggernaut got thrown into the next season because that’s the last time we see him for a while...
Wait. Jean actually accomplished something?
LoL 😁
Lol well it took Phoenix to do it lol
@@checkthemikecrophone9050 Jean saves Rogue from Ms. Marvel in "A Rogue's Tale" pre-Phoenix.
@@checkthemikecrophone9050 Jean helps Xavier defeat the shadow King. Jean uses her telepathy on the external to save Gambit, Jean prevents MR. Sinister's body from reforming and scatters the pieces around the globe. I know in TAS she is weak, I just don't know why; in comics she is not that helpless.
No, Phoenix accomplished something! Jean did nothing
The Phoenix saga on the 1997 Xmen cartoon was the fondest memory of watching TV on Saturday morning.
I was watching this in 1994
Theyre confusing the old one with the new retro style '97 X-Men, I believe. @doriancoreyscloset421
The 90s X-Men series ended in 1996. That's why the new show is called '97.
The Phoenix threw him back where he came from
"Creature, NO ONE defies the will of The Emperor of The Shi'ar and lives. My powers are his to command. And they are invincible!"
“If you will serve no worthy master. Then learn the power of the PHOENIX!”
Famous last words...
(gladiator screaming)
It’s a badass statement. Too bad he gets drop kicked out of the solar system right after saying it LOL
Yes he is!
Damn you gotta respect Gladiators huge balls for telling off Phoenix like that
He thought he had invincible powers...... she flicked him off like a fly though
This scene is so majestic to me to this day, cannot be replicated plus the voice of Katherine as Jean sensational!!! 🦾🔥
Love her Jill Valentine in the REmake of RE1.
Why wasn't any of this in the movies...come on!!!. These are classic
It was the last movie before selling to Disney and they were also too afraid of doing the entire crystal thing after the last big bad movie with Apocalypse.
My man really just got yeeted
One of my favorite scenes from any X series.
People keep forgetting how powerful Gladiator truly is. But more people probably don't realize how much more powerful the Phoenix is than Gladiator every could be.
I mean Jean made it clear she was holding back here
In the comics, Kitty Pride dressed up as Phoenix and had Nightcrawler teleport her around the room as she issued threats to the Shi'ar. Gladiator said he lacked the power to stop her.
Whether or not he had a chance before, the moment he accepted she was stronger, that made her stronger.
Rules of the Gladiator.
Nobody forgot. Gladiator Gladiator just bodied juggernaut in the scene before this.
Damn! She launched Gladiator into space. 😮 I forgot about this. I always remember Gladiator punching Juggernaut around the world in one episode. This certainly tops that.
hahahahahah 😂
I wish Gambit would have said, "Mes amis I have to go, this is just way to much for me".
I don't know if you noticed but Gambit was the only one in this episode beside Rouge and Gladiator who was able to hurt Juggernaut. When the X men broke into Cassidy's castle Gambit throw an explosive card at the door which knock the Juggernaut on the floor. This will also explain why Gambit wasn't fighting the Juggernaut in his debut episode in season 1 as he is the one of the few who can hurt him and they wanted to show Juggernaut as a powerful enemy. I wouldn't underestimate him
Is crazy to see that the creators of the OG 90s cartoon made Jean into a damsel that constantly trips and faulter at every single opportunity she has but put some actual respect to Phoenix.
She's still a damsel if she's just Jean 😭
Looks like gladiator is blasting off again!!!
Team rocket joke.😂
Gladiator is the best he’s so cool I love his character design
The Gladiator is the Marvel Comics version of Superman
@@thomasa.tucker2389 stronger than Hyperion for sure.
You may survive...
or you may not.
Don't mess with the phoenix
As Gladiator was getting thrown through space, do you think he was screaming “JEEEENN!” ?
Always my favorite watching Jean Grey / Dark Phoenix thrashing Gladiator.
It is just Jean/Phoenix, Jean Grey/Dark Phoenix has red costume.
That's not Dark Phoenix, that's an entirely different saga
+TheJedi OfTheEast Although, there is a moment in the Dark Phoenix Saga where Dark Phoenix thrashes Gladiator more
+TheJedi OfTheEast Nope, that's Jean Grey/Phoenix.
+Guled Abdo and she will later become the Dark Phoenix😊
I came here after watching that shitty trailer for the new Dark Phoenix movie. I had to see the Phoenix they way it’s supposed to be.
Is that what the problem is? that she didn't have a skin tight outfit for you guys to drool over cause it was otherwise a good movie
Gladiator: "Team Rocket's Blasting Off Again."
The Phoenix Force has NO limits.😮
Gladiador: "Team Rocket's Blasting Off Again."
Gladiator is basically x men copy of superman. So this will happen to the superman too if he encounters a Jean Grey Phoenix.
Without kryptonite vulnerability, but with greater vulnerability to psichic assault, i guess. Gladiator is this powerful only when he feels that he's doing right thing.
Not only superman . Any one in that tier !!!
Superman sux
Unless the Phoenix Force is magical in nature, no.
Gladiator might have the same powerset as Superman but, Gladiator's powers have limits, Superman's powers do not.
@@Jay_76 dc sux
Way better than the live action versions of Phoenix
Phoenix: " You may survive...... On second thought"
Hurls him into the sun......
Omg he doesn’t make a dent in her then she yeets him across the universe …thats insane i dont understand how movies dont show this kind of power
I like this cartoons.
Me too.
“Pwns” gotta love 2006 lol
Not him getting a phoenix wedgie and launched into the universe.
The original voice for Gladiator sounded a whole lot better then this shit.
I remember the reruns I watched had the old voice
Yeah what the fuck happened to his voice.
@@h5u7p5gt9 he probably got married. Lol
What made the original series so good, aside from the voice acting and themes, were the pacing. They dedicated multipart episode lengths to important storys like the phoenix, dark phoenix, creation of the sentinels, the phalanx, beyond good and evil, these stories didn't just rush into them, they were built up before they became the focus fully.
Feels like the shows reboot doesn't understand how to be patient in its story beats.
She owned his cocky ass.
The phoenix owned his cocky ass not her. She's just a medium for the actual power.
Jean grey by herself is weak af.
@@krakenwindzstorm961 Jean grey by herself is a omega level mutant that's why she was chosen, so let's not call her weak honey-
Jean is lame. @@NoHumanityHopeMikaelson
@@miscetc-tm2yt Jean being ''lame'' doesn't mean everyone else finds her lame lmao ok maybe she isn't the strongest but in the comics she's really cool tbh, the animations including Jean love making her seem weak when in reality she really isn't but i respect your opinion even if i myself don't agree.
As a gladiator fan when I saw this it hurt😂😂😂
0:16 What was Gladiator looking at/trying to do? :P
He was attacking (punching) her from different sides because a frontal assault wasn’t working
@@JLPerryTV He was looking the wrong way for a moment while doing that. :P
He flew right at her. Directly at her but was immediately deflected.
Gladiador: "El Equipo Rocket ha sido vencido otra vez."
The Phoenix is more powerful than Gladiator Kallark? I'm not surprised.
Gladiator still very powerful. He went toe to toe with Thanos.
@@rotyler2177 thanos stomped him
@Tree Star Which comic? I don't doubt it. Gambits extremely powerful.
@Tree Star I read that Gambit completely holds back whenever he's engaged in battle. I also read that he's almost as powerful as Phoenix or Stryfe.
@Tree Star I remember distinctly, Gambit throwing a 5 card stud during a tense battle in the cartoon. I don't remember the foes tho.
Phoenix claws, that animation was awesome. .
This is what I find funny they movies had the opportunities to bring this to the big screen this shows no matter how big you are there is someone bigger. X-men to juggernaut and juggernaut to gladiator and finally Jean to gladiator
“If his powers are invincible, how come I can still see him?”
- Phoenix, probably
Mr. Bad hair day got his *ss kicked 😂
I read that in a Juggernaut's voice.
Catherine Disher did such a phenomenal job. I wish she voiced her again in '97. 😞
poor gladiator.. owned by the script
Phoenix was one of my first crushes.
Rogue is just as strong as most mutant(obviousoy providing she can make direct contact with them)Other mutants may be to powerful for her to absorb without her losing control or passing out.But I don't think her absorbing Gladiator would be a problem.Hell,if she could hold onto him long enough,she could permanently absorb him.Of course she would permanently have his thoughts too.
Damn, Rogue with Gladiator's powers, she would be one of the most powerful beings in the universe
She better keep her confidence up to max though.
Watch this! This is the fight between Rogue and Gladiator! ruclips.net/video/5BsZ5vvaFl8/видео.html
Wasn't she overloaded by the juggernaut?
I agree with you Road can defeat Gladiator if she come close to him and touch him but he won't let her
that wasnt jean. that was the phoenix....
With jean grey as the host
@@kristopherpaviafernandez5060 still the phoenix
@@sabin97 and the Phoenix choose jean
Pwn is such a 2006 roblox term.
I love this saga
Aw, pwns. Good times.
LOL! Now I get why there were so many comments about Gladiator's voice in another clip.
The original voice is great. What was the point of changing it at all?
Yeah for real. Richard Epcar is way better than this guy.
Jean is a Top Powerfull superhero ever.
Thanos Top Vilian
We send dark phoenix to kick his butt.
Thanos can beat Phoenix
@@sreddi83 no he can't
@@wandagrey2528 oh yes he can and will thor one shot it the phénix in the comic(then again the phenix is vis mother maybe confidence boost to her boy)
@@painvillegaming4119 so didn't defeat the Phoenix Heathrow her into a planet and she destroy the planet and then defeated Thor and just about everyone in space antennas can beat the Phoenix for a lot of reasons none of those people can
What the frigging hell happened to his voice?????
New VA I think.
Yeah, I remember him being much louder than this.
@@gokuandmario4ever more heroic like which is the voice i preferred. but they did that with few characters like sinister at the season 1 finale
@@kefkarothsephka7708 For some reason, the show re-dubbed voices. The biggest example is Storm. The voice actress changed from Iona Morris to Alison Sealy Smith and they re-dubbed all of Iona's original episodes.
@@Nepthu You have great wisdom. Didn't know they changed Storms. Thought it was only Gladiators.
I would love to see Gladiator fight Apocalypse.
Lesson: dosent matter who u are, don’t try an approach a woman with no pupils & a huge flaming firebird behind her
Fact: This was not his original voice when it aired.
Ive always thought about this episode. Even Rouge wasn't stronger enough.
Fox kids was 🔥 back in the day
2 of my favorite animated series was the x-men and spider-man
there's always a bigger fish
Okay, so Jean is useless, the Phoenix is that crazy smart sociopath you dated in college who you broke up with over text because you were too afraid to do it in person.
You're a weirdo arent you buddy..
This essentially settles who would win in a fight between Phoenix and Superman. Gladiator is essentially a Marvel "Superman" clone with nearly identical powers (sans speed).
Gladiator is much weaker tho
"Learn the power of PHOENIX!" - Gladiator had the arrogance of never having met anyone who could challenge him or even hurt him. He really did think he was invincible. Phoenix is totally unaffected by his powers, and throws him aside, making it clear she could crush him effortlessly.
what did I just see?! wow #hailthephoenix
Gladiator his the best he’s my favorite hero
My hope is if they ever take another crack at the Phoenix They’re able to do something other than the dark Phoenix. Anybody who doesn’t know their X-Men lore would look at those movies and just assume that the Phoenix was nothing more than an unstable force moving through space or just a power-hungry entity. When in fact, the Phoenix was arguably one of the most heroic forces in the Galaxy. I don’t know about the comics, but if memory serves the only reason the Phoenix went dark was because it was tainted by human emotion. An unexpected consequence of merging with Jean.
You are the male Jean grey......
0:09 Lightsaber sound effect.
There's levels to this
Gladiator was a possie
Y didnt they started off with Jean friend dying in her arms for the begin of the dark Phoenix movie
That would have been awesome. Her preventing Annie from dying for a few seconds and a part of the phoenix noticing and merging with her. Then this piece of the phoenix would be calling for the rest of the force. This would have been nice to explain why she had the phoenix when she obliterated Apocalypse.
Yt just casually recommending one of it's oldest videos, nice
Whisked away.)
First Time In the Whole Series, Where they re-use the Juggernaut theme but throws Gladiator Into Space and Jean actually didn't pass out... Phoenix Gene was always Bad Ass..
Gheeeeez looks like other aliens or person like one uping each other on throwing the strongest foe there further then the previous alien or person. Daaam
16 years damn
17 уже
Одно из самых старых видео, которые мне попадались 🤔
Cool
Dude got beat up by a girl
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The one yime they didn't use the theme music.
Oh they cut OUT the part where JEAN Faints...Which usually happens in every episode...
Jean Grey Phoenix is in the same conversation as (average strength) Galactus in my mind, maybe slightly weaker (as Jean does ultimately nerf the entirety of the Phoenix force).
So to me this video is similar to Galactus vs Silver Surfer.
Think of tiers. Silver Surfer, Gladiator, Thor, Hyperion, Hulk, etc.
Phoenix and Galactus are well above that.
The Phoenix isn't on a power scale. It's a trump card plot device that beats everything.
You know it’s a old clip when someone says “pwns”
Is the voice of Gladiator different? Maybe my 90s tv had bad audio, but i remember his voice being louder. Especially when he says he is invincible.
Just in case, I think I found the answer. When the episode first aired, there was a different voice, American voice actor. To avoid paying union fees for reruns, the voice was switched to a Canadian voice actor any time the episode was aired in the future.
I like the Gladiator's original voice actor. This guy seems like he was asked to read the lines without context.
0:18 “WEDGIE!!”
Gladiator can fly faster then light speed he would be back quickly.
why would he come back
Rusuming, this is the show tellong us that she It was more powerfull than Superman
How can a fireball survive in space with no oxygen?!
Phoenix ball bro
cosmic fire requires no oxygen to burn. it can even burn underwater, and as you can see here, space
Deities needs no oxygen.
Uh, stars burn in space without oxygen. Of course it's a nuclear fire rather than chemical one...
lol!
still there after 15 years??
Just show this link when ppl r like: Superman vs. Jean Grey? who wins? 😂
It depends on which superman
Jean
Jean entered knull's mind which quite impressive
Jean Grey as Phoenix was godlike, equal to Galactus, Watchers, Stranger, Magus, etc.
bad ass!!!!!!
huy que dura jajajajaja.
This wasn't a close fight. Phoenix was taking it easy on him.
Phoenix has super cosmic powers in the ballpark of Galactus. Gladiator is a toy to her. Like a large talking action figure.
Hence..."Learn the power of PHOENIX! You may survive..."
Making it absolutely clear that Gladiator - who considers himself invulnerable and unbeatable - is nothing to her, she allows him to attack to show his powers are useless against her, then casually throws him aside
Is he for reals?
Smash brothered him!
Gladiador é um pouco fraco