This woman is lying, it’s so obvious that she’s not telling the truth and at the same time she’s slandering another person‘s good name and performance… And then she follows it up by saying I can’t remember. What a load of BS.
she was crying and yelling....sounds like the absolutely correct reaction to seeing oceangates operations....give that contractor who cried a promotion. Crying and yelling is not unprofessional if your job is to check safety of an operation thats a death can. Seems CEO had yes men around him and any real adult who raised concerns was orchestrated out by people like this staffer. Yikes the incompetence level here 100%.
Her arranging things on the table, taking glasses off, wringing hands is a sign of inner agitation. Whatever causes that agitation. Maybe it was caused by her not remembering anything while describing every detail, trying to smear a warning voice. Pathetic.
@@flybywire5866 she took her glasses of to release the agitation she felt at using theatre professionals terms like 'notated', you could have said noted but theatre professionals like to hide their own incompetence behind buzz words like adding 'ated' onto words that dont need them etc you get a feel from that woman what a theatre of professional power plays Ocean gate must have been, arranged around feeding that wannabe Stocktons ego. I hate professional theatre, meeting etc should be purely about discussion how the business needs of the company can be resourced/met etc. Theres too much theatre professionals and not enough real professionals who think just of the business aim and not their own egos.
@@poetlaureate7334 I have been working for 43 years now. What I've learned is that companies are just playgrounds for egos. It is about gaining power over people. Power is the ability to force people to do things they don't want to do. It leads to the obliteration of common sense.
Notice how when she would begin to answer questions her voice was never a "normal" tone..but would start out sounding low, but the more she spoke & toward the end of her responses her voice would be like only above a whisper? That is guilt & she's also minimizing & gaslighting. The way she describes the contractor's behavior it's like she was describing someone that needed to be committed to a mental health facility...I don't believe that *for one minute!* Her 'I don't recall,' & 'I wasn't there,' & 'I don't remember,'...she thinks she's real slick & being evasive but she looks guilty AF. I hope when this committee wraps up & issues their report that they recommend her to be just as culpable as Rush & the rest of that ilk & hopefully find her criminally liable.
@@Corinne-v9c I noticed the quietness too. She was very tearful at the end of her testimony, which seemed heartfelt, but if you were truly wanting to prevent something like this happening again you would be completely factual and open.
@@why-even-try-brotendo She also remembers very clearly that Nothing Was Her Fault But The OTHER Staff Were All To Blame. She expressed That outlook very clearly, and very often. What an amazingly selective memory she possesses.
No. It isn't. You can write a report and warn the paying clients, but if you are not happy as a contractor, then you need to leave. You aren't offering anything other than ass covering and you're disrupting other people who are tending to the actual mission. It's like saying it's the job of a passenger to jump into the cockpit when they think safety protocols are being violated. Do you think that improves flight safety or makes it worse? If you don't like what your pilot is doing then get off the plane.
It is and I often have (jumped in and disturbed), and always been sent packing quite soon after when Ive done so. Its normal. This kind of lieing is also normal, she was loyal to Stockton and the company and that was her job. I work in online security and some of the most ordinary and simple precautions that projects should adopt are ignored and to merely raise them honestly is a threat when there's money and time for the project.
When a crew member acts unprofessionally they get fired but when Stockton had a tantrum while stuck to a wreck and threw the controller at David lochridge’s head, that’s when they don’t care about professionalism
@madreep she doesn't seem to be very reliable. He, on the other hand, was consistent, provided proof to back his position whenever this existed, and what Lockridge said about Rush is consistent with what others have said about him.
She appears to have a complete and total memory lapse when asked any questions that could personally be seen to raise issues over her personal role, her personal oversight, her personal possible facilitating of any bad or potentially even dangerous decisions and moves made by the company boss and those she worked for - but she simultaneously shows amazing powers of recall at blaming her colleague and recounting their actions and behaviour instead. A cynical person might be somewhat incredulous over the testimony she's giving, and how much, exactly, she 'can't remember' or recall.
so in other words, she knew this was a bad situation that didnt pass the smell test, and she was trying to raise the alarm and save people's lives....but was fired for it
The modus operandi of Stockton Rush and all the yes people around him. Four people paid for it with their lives. I´m not counting Rush in, he made his bed.
"a crew member behaved unprofessionally by reacting with a sense of urgency when the company's garbage submersible disappeared in the middle of the North Atlantic"
@@gdwnet I don't know how much culpability these "dedicated" mission specialists will have to face in the end. At least we should get to hear them explain all this to one of the family's lawyers in a court of law. That should be a little more revealing and much less pleasant for her. She's as guilty as Rush for propagating these lies and killing a child.
@@damilkk I'm not sure, the inquiry itself isn't a court case but it does carry legal weight and as they are public everything is recorded and on the record so I guess the families could sue?
Totally agree. Not guilty of having a conscience. Not guilty of possessing an IQ greater than 80. Not guilty of giving a shit. Not guilty of accountability. Not guilty caring about anyone besides herself. Not guilty of any sort of engineering background. Not guilty of... well, I could do this all day and you see where I'm going with this.
I would so sue this woman for her personal comments (insults) towards that contractor. She was proven correct in the end and this piece of fluff wants to cover her behind from litigation so she try’s to throw the former employee under the bus almost alleging that she had some kind of medical/emotional issues. What BS. I’d have a process server delivering lawsuit papers on her in 24 hours…
I worked for a firm once where on another site a worker got crushed to death by a dropped load. Managment blamed him even after site studies clearly showed that the load was both incorrectly secured and the area beneath it was not properly sectioned off. THEY BLAMED THE DEAD DUDE SO THEY COULD FORCE THE FAMILY TO FIGHT THEM IN COURT, WICH THEY COULDN'T DO BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY those monsters took their husband/father and then any chance at life insurance so they family suffered even more. Fucking monsters
If a concern is serious enough wouldn't you assure that they make it to the proper person by walking them to that person's office, or scheduling a meeting that includes them, to ensure that the person doesn't just get discouraged and go home?
Giving her the benefit of the doubt, I'm assuming what she means is that she didn't go into details with her. It sounds to me like this woman was the director of HR or something. I'm an engineer, I can tell you for a fact that HR doesn't have any clue what was going on from an engineering perspective outside of being involved with onboarding and terminating people.
@@tankerd1847 Well, then in that case she did her job extremely well! She should be very proud of what she did. Somehow I don't think she feels that way! 🤔
she was sent home because Stockton Rush had narcissistic personality disorder. That's it. That's all it's ever going to be about. Not because someone didn't follow proper channels, have an explorer mindset or didn't work well with others. Because the CEO was a narcissist. Period. PERIOD. This is a case study in NPD.
The dude thought he was innovating something that would be a boon to offshore oil exploration, as if rovs don't exist. It's also a great case study on how unmeritocratic accumulation of wealth really hurts societies, because there's plenty of Stockton Rush's all over american industry hplsing us all bsck
Well then that’s the final word. We should all believe what you say and just move along. You seem to have an “exaggerated sense of your importance and are clearly desiring attention.”
To label it narcissism is insane. There are plenty of other possibilities it can be. How do u know its narcissism? You dont even know the guy, other than what he put on internet. Ever hear of projection?? I would say he was a child, very immature behaviour patterns. Other than that, i dont know him enough..
"She acted erratically" coming from Stockton Rush is pretty ironic. He sounds like an ego driven danger to everyone around him - and no lady, they were not successful in working out those challenges. That's why you are sitting there making an obvious ass of yourself now.
I love how she’s acting like the contractor was unreasonable and weird for being concerned about the communication loss issues. Too bad that contractor wasn’t around on the last day to disrupt operations.
I think there's a bit of a lack of context here that is leading to sensationalized comments like yours. This sounds like the director of human resources. I don't think this woman was involved in any kind of engineering or quality effort and likely didn't actually have any details of safety incidences reported to her, nor was she in a position to do anything about them. If she's at fault for anything it's wrongfully terminating people on the CEO's orders. I'm an aerospace engineer who works in commercial aviation. I work in a highly regulated transportation field. If something went terribly wrong on the engineering/operations side due to negligent management, I guarantee you the HR manager wouldn't have anything meaningful to add unless she was involved with terminating people wrongfully. Just some food for thought, I'm obviously not defending this company.
@@tankerd1847 As the director of HR, she should be making sure that people are not dismissed because they hurt the boss' fee fees. The contractor was hired to do a job. She did that job. The boss didn't like it. This woman enabled Stockton. That's why she was in the position she was in.
I’m sure the contractor was making people upset with potent warnings like “you are gonna kill someone” but firing whistleblowers won’t stop your experimental craft from fatally malfunctioning.
@@colin-nekritz I'm not defending anybody. I'm just pointind out a simple fact. Any time somebody says "I don't remember" in a court or similar setting, people pounce and accuse them of lying. In reality, people don't remember stuff. And I really have no idea what you mean by calling my comment a "flex". What part of what I said makes you think I'm trying to come across as powerful? That's just nonsense.
@@beeble2003 People are more likely to solidify long term memory in stressful situations, like workplace conflict. If she didn't remember what she had for lunch last Tuesday, that would make sense. It seems unlikely that she wouldn't remember details of her interactions with the contractor.
These people make up people acting unprofessionally as an excuse to fire people, when all they do is act unprofessional people in charge always hypocritical
She has a very selective memory. You can tell by the way she is talking that she is not confident in her answers. When she is faced with answering with a direct lie, she says “I can’t remember”.
suggesting the contractor is lying, suggesting the contractor was sick, suggesting she is incompetent, character assassination attempt much? And she is asked to say something about herself and what she knew her answer is "I am sorry, I do not recall". Laughable.
Critical sad how many directors are in inflicted with the ole directors amnesia…, a crippling disease…, still.. it never seems to affect their careers…
She doesn't remember the truth but she remembers all the proper lies! All those people who encourage and sustain a giant narcissist and an exquisite villain ... Shame!
My experience with military investigators is that if they are asking you a question, they already know the truth, so don't try to dance around self preservation.
Its so funny how when the shit hits the fan no one from OceanGate can recall incidents the way they occurred they try to downplay the problems in the end making them sound like bumbling idiots cause the crap they saying makes noe sense at all
0:46 I usually can tell someone’s full of shit when they say someone else hasn’t slept for three weeks. Over the top, and attacking the character of the person who has the accusation. Totally trustworthy and believable.
Why isn’t his wife answering any questions or paying up? Everyone’s ignoring sue very much alive, an OceanGate executive, and has plenty of personal money
It's difficult to know what the truth was unless there is independent evidence. This lady is unlikely to either know the whole truth (because she was getting her info from Rush) or she may be unwilling to tell us all that she knows (because she is protecting her own reputation). Need third party corroboration.
Stockton Rush was an innovator and would inevitably clash with engineers. Engineering is an extremely conservative profession. It must be. People's lives are at risk. Design is based on knowing the strength of a material, the forces that act upon it, its response through its operating range and a safety factor to account for the unexpected. Assembling diverse components without full knowledge of their properties and hoping for success is not the way it is done within the profession. Studious detailed application of knowledge. Not wishful thinking.
Does this enquiry have any teeth - can they prosecute anyone? If it's just fact finding then it's the law that needs to change to stop this happening again
@@Supermanohman I'm not defending anybody: I'm just pointing out that people have unreasonable expectations of witnesses. OceanGate looks like a total cluster*** but not being able to remember something doesn't mean that somebody is gaslighting.
She was able to communicate in great detail the contractor’s erratic, unprofessional and insubordinate behavior, but she doesn’t seem able to even vaguely describe the contractor’s concerns regarding safety. She was also not able to connect the dots that her concerns over safety the prior day may have resulted in frustration the next day. Rather than try to resolve this you dismissed her. That is the sign of a rubber stamp HR rather than one that recognizes the both employees and leadership need to resolve differences and develop the right respect. I love how at the end she says they were able to resolve the challenges. For someone that didn’t know engineering and operations well, she certainly had a pulse on when they overcame problems. You’re not fooling anyone, and the death of that young man is on your soul too.
of course Renata who was on board at the time, testified he didn't throw that controller. The engineer said he did. someone wasn't telling the truth, and we need a third person to testify as to what happened.
@@blitzmom2674 Well considering that the controller had to be fixed before Lockridge could use it to pilot the submersible loose I'd say SOMEBODY threw the controller.
@@rsrt6910 I think that since there are now two very different accounts of the behavior (and it is significant, if Rush entangled the submersible and then had a tantrum) that the hearing board really needs to call on the other passengers on that dive. We know Renata was one, and we know Rush and his engineer were there, so who were the other two? I'm so curious to hear their account. And then if it turns out Rush did throw the controller, what will happen to Renata who denied that he did, under oath? Would someone really lie in these circumstances, and why?
The language of obfuscation is strong with this one. The proof is in the pudding. Isn't it? Your craft was destroyed on the ocean floor, and five people died.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the contractor was aware of safety issues, and was SO concerned that she became emotional and unprofessional to wave a red flag. Instead, she's labelled "irrational." Ironically, in the end, the contractor was entirely rational and Ms. Bay's deadpan delivery of her operational ignorance is quiet and calmly unhinged.
I firmly believe rational behavior can't exist in chaotic circumstances. Rush created this environment that drove people nuts and I believe her behavior was a reflection of the frustration of being in that environment.
Agree. To act unconcerned, unapologetic and concerned only with the way safety issues were communicated rather than with the actual concerns when five people died as a result of ignoring safety concern seems highly irrational to me. She needs therapy.
Remembers in great detail what the contractor supposedly did wrong. Can’t remember the details of the contractors safety concerns……..sometimes I forgor
The contractor didn't raise safety concerns. She always refers safety concerns to the engineering team. She referred the contractor to the engineering team. If the contractor didn't raise safety concerns, why did she refer her to the engineering team? Poor questioning.
This woman is lying, it’s so obvious that she’s not telling the truth and at the same time she’s slandering another person‘s good name and performance… And then she follows it up by saying I can’t remember. What a load of BS.
When in doubt get the "I don't recall" lie out.
she was crying and yelling....sounds like the absolutely correct reaction to seeing oceangates operations....give that contractor who cried a promotion. Crying and yelling is not unprofessional if your job is to check safety of an operation thats a death can. Seems CEO had yes men around him and any real adult who raised concerns was orchestrated out by people like this staffer. Yikes the incompetence level here 100%.
Her arranging things on the table, taking glasses off, wringing hands is a sign of inner agitation. Whatever causes that agitation. Maybe it was caused by her not remembering anything while describing every detail, trying to smear a warning voice. Pathetic.
@@flybywire5866 she took her glasses of to release the agitation she felt at using theatre professionals terms like 'notated', you could have said noted but theatre professionals like to hide their own incompetence behind buzz words like adding 'ated' onto words that dont need them etc you get a feel from that woman what a theatre of professional power plays Ocean gate must have been, arranged around feeding that wannabe Stocktons ego. I hate professional theatre, meeting etc should be purely about discussion how the business needs of the company can be resourced/met etc. Theres too much theatre professionals and not enough real professionals who think just of the business aim and not their own egos.
@@poetlaureate7334 I have been working for 43 years now. What I've learned is that companies are just playgrounds for egos. It is about gaining power over people. Power is the ability to force people to do things they don't want to do. It leads to the obliteration of common sense.
Liar, trying to cover up her involvement with the incompetence that existed at the company.
You got that one right 👍
Notice how when she would begin to answer questions her voice was never a "normal" tone..but would start out sounding low, but the more she spoke & toward the end of her responses her voice would be like only above a whisper? That is guilt & she's also minimizing & gaslighting. The way she describes the contractor's behavior it's like she was describing someone that needed to be committed to a mental health facility...I don't believe that *for one minute!* Her 'I don't recall,' & 'I wasn't there,' & 'I don't remember,'...she thinks she's real slick & being evasive but she looks guilty AF. I hope when this committee wraps up & issues their report that they recommend her to be just as culpable as Rush & the rest of that ilk & hopefully find her criminally liable.
@@Corinne-v9c I noticed the quietness too. She was very tearful at the end of her testimony, which seemed heartfelt, but if you were truly wanting to prevent something like this happening again you would be completely factual and open.
She remembers every single detail besides anything having to do with safety concerns. Give me a break!!!🤬
@@why-even-try-brotendo She also remembers very clearly that Nothing Was Her Fault But The OTHER Staff Were All To Blame. She expressed That outlook very clearly, and very often. What an amazingly selective memory she possesses.
It's the job of a contractor to "jump in" and "disturb" when safety protocols are grossly violated.
That's why they got fired. Lucky they weren't made to walk the plank.
Not just a contractor, but anyone really...
No. It isn't. You can write a report and warn the paying clients, but if you are not happy as a contractor, then you need to leave. You aren't offering anything other than ass covering and you're disrupting other people who are tending to the actual mission. It's like saying it's the job of a passenger to jump into the cockpit when they think safety protocols are being violated. Do you think that improves flight safety or makes it worse? If you don't like what your pilot is doing then get off the plane.
@@stonehobson2487 Walking the plank would have given a better them chance of survival than getting locked into that garbage submersible.
It is and I often have (jumped in and disturbed), and always been sent packing quite soon after when Ive done so. Its normal. This kind of lieing is also normal, she was loyal to Stockton and the company and that was her job.
I work in online security and some of the most ordinary and simple precautions that projects should adopt are ignored and to merely raise them honestly is a threat when there's money and time for the project.
When a crew member acts unprofessionally they get fired but when Stockton had a tantrum while stuck to a wreck and threw the controller at David lochridge’s head, that’s when they don’t care about professionalism
And that one chick who testified that Stockton placed the controller on David's feet. Like she didn't know how ridiculous that sounded 🙄
@madreep she doesn't seem to be very reliable. He, on the other hand, was consistent, provided proof to back his position whenever this existed, and what Lockridge said about Rush is consistent with what others have said about him.
She doesn't remember...but she details everything anyway! Total liar.
She appears to have a complete and total memory lapse when asked any questions that could personally be seen to raise issues over her personal role, her personal oversight, her personal possible facilitating of any bad or potentially even dangerous decisions and moves made by the company boss and those she worked for - but she simultaneously shows amazing powers of recall at blaming her colleague and recounting their actions and behaviour instead.
A cynical person might be somewhat incredulous over the testimony she's giving, and how much, exactly, she 'can't remember' or recall.
so in other words, she knew this was a bad situation that didnt pass the smell test, and she was trying to raise the alarm and save people's lives....but was fired for it
Yep! I would say that she acted/reacted just as she should have! She should have got an award or a raise. Instead she got fired!
They had normalized the repeated failure of their comms systems, without addressing the actual failure reasons
The modus operandi of Stockton Rush and all the yes people around him. Four people paid for it with their lives. I´m not counting Rush in, he made his bed.
@@quesoestbonne Normalization of deviation leads to these disasters.
@@bobjohnson205 see something, say something (you'll get fired for it, but you'll have a clean conscience)
"a crew member behaved unprofessionally by reacting with a sense of urgency when the company's garbage submersible disappeared in the middle of the North Atlantic"
If it's true that she was crying and yelling (IF), that's not "reacting with a sense of urgency."
@@beeble2003 yes it is?
@@tinyminus No it's not. Crying and yelling is reacting with a sense of disruptive panic.
Once again, a stark reminder that HR is not your friend, they are there for the companies benefit, not yours.
@@DaveP-uv1ml 100% agree. Snakes the lot of them.
lol this witness seems TOTALLY not guilty of anything.
it's odd that those concerned about safety gave testimony on their own. Those defending oceangate roll up with lawyers in tow.
@@gdwnet who judges these kinds of enquies?
@@gdwnet I don't know how much culpability these "dedicated" mission specialists will have to face in the end. At least we should get to hear them explain all this to one of the family's lawyers in a court of law. That should be a little more revealing and much less pleasant for her. She's as guilty as Rush for propagating these lies and killing a child.
@@damilkk I'm not sure, the inquiry itself isn't a court case but it does carry legal weight and as they are public everything is recorded and on the record so I guess the families could sue?
Totally agree.
Not guilty of having a conscience.
Not guilty of possessing an IQ greater than 80.
Not guilty of giving a shit.
Not guilty of accountability.
Not guilty caring about anyone besides herself.
Not guilty of any sort of engineering background.
Not guilty of... well, I could do this all day and you see where I'm going with this.
This woman personifies the real problem. Rush wasn't a lone monster. There was a whole board of monsters behind him at that company.
Rush hired people that allowed him to act without rules. When people confronted him they got fired.
@@Sean006and then they claimed she acted "erratically" load of bs
enablers and yes men
Paid lackeys.
I would so sue this woman for her personal comments (insults) towards that contractor. She was proven correct in the end and this piece of fluff wants to cover her behind from litigation so she try’s to throw the former employee under the bus almost alleging that she had some kind of medical/emotional issues. What BS. I’d have a process server delivering lawsuit papers on her in 24 hours…
Denial denial denial. Not just a river in Africa. 🤔
I worked for a firm once where on another site a worker got crushed to death by a dropped load.
Managment blamed him even after site studies clearly showed that the load was both incorrectly secured and the area beneath it was not properly sectioned off.
THEY BLAMED THE DEAD DUDE SO THEY COULD FORCE THE FAMILY TO FIGHT THEM IN COURT, WICH THEY COULDN'T DO BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY
those monsters took their husband/father and then any chance at life insurance so they family suffered even more. Fucking monsters
Why is the first thought to “sue?”
@@Agnus_Mason there wasn't workers' comp insurance?
@Scribe127 Because people can't testify in a broadcast hearing whatever they feel like without feeling professional consequences.
She's lying, the director. She needs to be put under oath and held accountable for her lies.
She is under oath here. All witnesses are sworn in.
@@swimgirl24 Just like Rush, rules and requirements mean nothing to her.
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She doesn't remember the contractor bringing up any safety issues, but she referred her to upper management about those concerns, lol.
If a concern is serious enough wouldn't you assure that they make it to the proper person by walking them to that person's office, or scheduling a meeting that includes them, to ensure that the person doesn't just get discouraged and go home?
@@AaaaNinja She just told her that none of that was her job! What a useless b***h!
Liars have a hard time remembering what they say.
Giving her the benefit of the doubt, I'm assuming what she means is that she didn't go into details with her. It sounds to me like this woman was the director of HR or something. I'm an engineer, I can tell you for a fact that HR doesn't have any clue what was going on from an engineering perspective outside of being involved with onboarding and terminating people.
@@tankerd1847 Well, then in that case she did her job extremely well! She should be very proud of what she did. Somehow I don't think she feels that way! 🤔
she was sent home because Stockton Rush had narcissistic personality disorder. That's it. That's all it's ever going to be about. Not because someone didn't follow proper channels, have an explorer mindset or didn't work well with others. Because the CEO was a narcissist. Period. PERIOD. This is a case study in NPD.
The dude thought he was innovating something that would be a boon to offshore oil exploration, as if rovs don't exist.
It's also a great case study on how unmeritocratic accumulation of wealth really hurts societies, because there's plenty of Stockton Rush's all over american industry hplsing us all bsck
..except for one thing. The Narcissist actually fell for his own BS to the extent that it killed him. Normally they only kill other people.
Well then that’s the final word. We should all believe what you say and just move along. You seem to have an “exaggerated sense of your importance and are clearly desiring attention.”
To label it narcissism is insane. There are plenty of other possibilities it can be. How do u know its narcissism? You dont even know the guy, other than what he put on internet. Ever hear of projection?? I would say he was a child, very immature behaviour patterns. Other than that, i dont know him enough..
@@Scribe127imagine simping for Stockton Rush
She has blood on her hands. Her acceptance of the dangerous status quo and inaction led to those deaths.
"She acted erratically" coming from Stockton Rush is pretty ironic. He sounds like an ego driven danger to everyone around him - and no lady, they were not successful in working out those challenges. That's why you are sitting there making an obvious ass of yourself now.
I love how she’s acting like the contractor was unreasonable and weird for being concerned about the communication loss issues. Too bad that contractor wasn’t around on the last day to disrupt operations.
I don’t know nothin, and if I did, it wasn’t my area of responsibility. To the best of my recollection, which could be wrong.
The entire internet heard your testimony and doesn’t believe a word you said. I just thought you may want to let that sink into your head.
I think there's a bit of a lack of context here that is leading to sensationalized comments like yours. This sounds like the director of human resources. I don't think this woman was involved in any kind of engineering or quality effort and likely didn't actually have any details of safety incidences reported to her, nor was she in a position to do anything about them. If she's at fault for anything it's wrongfully terminating people on the CEO's orders.
I'm an aerospace engineer who works in commercial aviation. I work in a highly regulated transportation field. If something went terribly wrong on the engineering/operations side due to negligent management, I guarantee you the HR manager wouldn't have anything meaningful to add unless she was involved with terminating people wrongfully. Just some food for thought, I'm obviously not defending this company.
@@tankerd1847 As the director of HR, she should be making sure that people are not dismissed because they hurt the boss' fee fees. The contractor was hired to do a job. She did that job. The boss didn't like it. This woman enabled Stockton. That's why she was in the position she was in.
I’m sure the contractor was making people upset with potent warnings like “you are gonna kill someone” but firing whistleblowers won’t stop your experimental craft from fatally malfunctioning.
“That wasn’t my responsibility.” Yeah, right.
A lot of “I don’t remembers”
People often don't remember the details of conversations they had years ago...
@@beeble2003 STOP ARGUING WITH ALL THE COMMENTERS! Are you invested with Oceangate or something?
@@beeble2003defending a death cult? Strange flex but okay
@@colin-nekritz I'm not defending anybody. I'm just pointind out a simple fact. Any time somebody says "I don't remember" in a court or similar setting, people pounce and accuse them of lying. In reality, people don't remember stuff.
And I really have no idea what you mean by calling my comment a "flex". What part of what I said makes you think I'm trying to come across as powerful? That's just nonsense.
@@beeble2003 People are more likely to solidify long term memory in stressful situations, like workplace conflict. If she didn't remember what she had for lunch last Tuesday, that would make sense. It seems unlikely that she wouldn't remember details of her interactions with the contractor.
Blame the dead guy, but you did his dirty work
These people make up people acting unprofessionally as an excuse to fire people, when all they do is act unprofessional people in charge always hypocritical
She has a very selective memory. You can tell by the way she is talking that she is not confident in her answers. When she is faced with answering with a direct lie, she says “I can’t remember”.
I believe the contractor. This woman is lying to protect herself and others.
Her testimony sinks faster than Titan
My bullshitonometer just exploded
Are you wearing depends?
@@buzz5969Do people who know you refer to you as an a$$hole
Directors of a non existent company covering up for what reason.
I guess lawsuits.
PH's family has filed a lawsuit requesting $100 million in damages.
She's trying not to get her ass sued for being complicit in 4 murders.
fidget with napkin, coughing, euh euh, I don't remember, fidget with glasses, hear say, I dont't remember. Classic!!
I cannot stand her fake "nice" voice
So fake.
She's annoyed that she's there.
She part of the Flintstone gang.....!!!!! The difference between them and the real Flintstones they never had a accident with there push car ...!!!
The Flintstones was "Masterpiece Theatre" compared the OceanGate Show.
These people should be in a court of law, not in front of this kid glove treatng commitee
“Not my responsibility.” Wow!
Back pedalling like no tomorrow.
What a liar.
I wouldn’t have myself on video if I said what she said for the world to see and hear.
She needs to go under oath
Her deflection is astounding.
I wonder how many people who can clearly see she is lying still wear their red hats and believe what their Grand Leader says.
Another Stockton shill.
This lady suddenly suffers of amnesia. All in charge should be thrown in jail.
I have no knowledge of engineering operations but I can assure you our sops to re-establish coms were both successful and sufficient. Absolute clown 🤡
suggesting the contractor is lying, suggesting the contractor was sick, suggesting she is incompetent, character assassination attempt much?
And she is asked to say something about herself and what she knew her answer is "I am sorry, I do not recall".
Laughable.
All the best people of course.....
Critical sad how many directors are in inflicted with the ole directors amnesia…, a crippling disease…, still.. it never seems to affect their careers…
She doesn't remember the truth but she remembers all the proper lies!
All those people who encourage and sustain a giant narcissist and an exquisite villain ... Shame!
Deflect and Deny
"She was acting unprofessional" Meanwhile, Stockton comes across as a total maverick, especially with other people's safety.
She is not fooling anyone.
Deny deny deny. That was pitiful.
SHE remembers. I don't recall is another way of lying about the truth.
she knows more, it’s obvious.
My experience with military investigators is that if they are asking you a question, they already know the truth, so don't try to dance around self preservation.
why the families of the ppl who were killed in the implosion not sueing this company ?
Its so funny how when the shit hits the fan no one from OceanGate can recall incidents the way they occurred they try to downplay the problems in the end making them sound like bumbling idiots cause the crap they saying makes noe sense at all
Can anyone smell something?....
Of course her name is Amber...
0:46 I usually can tell someone’s full of shit when they say someone else hasn’t slept for three weeks. Over the top, and attacking the character of the person who has the accusation. Totally trustworthy and believable.
Bingo.
She remembers what Rush told her not nothing else.
Why isn’t his wife answering any questions or paying up? Everyone’s ignoring sue very much alive, an OceanGate executive, and has plenty of personal money
LIAR LIAR Pants on FIRE
I remember I said all the right things but can’t remember any of the other details, sorry
It's difficult to know what the truth was unless there is independent evidence. This lady is unlikely to either know the whole truth (because she was getting her info from Rush) or she may be unwilling to tell us all that she knows (because she is protecting her own reputation). Need third party corroboration.
i have had an incompetent boss like this
My spidey senses are up on this one.
Lol, she acted unprofessionly. Please, people could be killed. Very unprofessional to say such things.
What is this the HR lady?
Acting unprofessionally? If that’s what not killing people is called, then yes, she definitely acted unprofessionally.
Very fragile voice for someone telling the truth.
How dare somebody be nervous while giving evidence!
I don’t believe her.
Jesus, her body language is a dead giveaway she's lying 😂
This woman is lying
She just wasn't very inspirational
Lol, when you know someone is full of it
I can't stand that she talks like a programmed bot 🤖
Who we really need out here is Wendy Rush 😡
Oceangate, Heaven's Gate.
Talk about dodging the questions
Bad hair and bad ethics
This is outside of her pay grade.
Pretty obvious she is lying just to save her ass.
That lady is full of crap. She is the only person who believes her (own) words.
Uh huh
Stockton Rush was an innovator and would inevitably clash with engineers. Engineering is an extremely conservative profession. It must be. People's lives are at risk. Design is based on knowing the strength of a material, the forces that act upon it, its response through its operating range and a safety factor to account for the unexpected. Assembling diverse components without full knowledge of their properties and hoping for success is not the way it is done within the profession. Studious detailed application of knowledge. Not wishful thinking.
Using batshit crazy cheap-ass components and operating with no regard for either reality or sanity is NOT innovation.
Ever notice how when women are put in a defensive situation they speak with a very soft almost inaudible whisper as if they were a sickened child?
This woman is a terrible liar.
Cupid Stunt
Not nearly as stupid as the fools that signed death waivers and rode it😅😂
Lies, Lies and more lies!!!
Does this enquiry have any teeth - can they prosecute anyone?
If it's just fact finding then it's the law that needs to change to stop this happening again
“I don’t remember.” Famous last words of a gaslighter.
Do you remember what was said to you however many years ago?
@@beeble2003 Why are you in all the comments arguing with people to defend this man and his company?
@@Supermanohman it's probably an A.I. bot meant to just get a reactions from sane individuals.
@@Supermanohman I'm not defending anybody: I'm just pointing out that people have unreasonable expectations of witnesses. OceanGate looks like a total cluster*** but not being able to remember something doesn't mean that somebody is gaslighting.
@@DINSTAAR-FPV Because only an AI bot could possibly disagree with you, right?
She was able to communicate in great detail the contractor’s erratic, unprofessional and insubordinate behavior, but she doesn’t seem able to even vaguely describe the contractor’s concerns regarding safety. She was also not able to connect the dots that her concerns over safety the prior day may have resulted in frustration the next day. Rather than try to resolve this you dismissed her. That is the sign of a rubber stamp HR rather than one that recognizes the both employees and leadership need to resolve differences and develop the right respect. I love how at the end she says they were able to resolve the challenges. For someone that didn’t know engineering and operations well, she certainly had a pulse on when they overcame problems. You’re not fooling anyone, and the death of that young man is on your soul too.
I bet there's zero record of the girl "being sick for the last month" too
I wonder if the way the carbon fibre hull was glued to the titanium endrings one of the "challenges" that she "resolved"?
HR exists to protect the executives. That's really their primary function, whether they will admit it or not.
She basically told the woman that it wasn't her job!
She acted non professionally said by the man that threw a controller of the sub to the pilot (that managed to get them unstuck).
of course Renata who was on board at the time, testified he didn't throw that controller. The engineer said he did. someone wasn't telling the truth, and we need a third person to testify as to what happened.
@@blitzmom2674 Well considering that the controller had to be fixed before Lockridge could use it to pilot the submersible loose I'd say SOMEBODY threw the controller.
@@rsrt6910 I think that since there are now two very different accounts of the behavior (and it is significant, if Rush entangled the submersible and then had a tantrum) that the hearing board really needs to call on the other passengers on that dive. We know Renata was one, and we know Rush and his engineer were there, so who were the other two? I'm so curious to hear their account. And then if it turns out Rush did throw the controller, what will happen to Renata who denied that he did, under oath? Would someone really lie in these circumstances, and why?
The language of obfuscation is strong with this one. The proof is in the pudding. Isn't it? Your craft was destroyed on the ocean floor, and five people died.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the contractor was aware of safety issues, and was SO concerned that she became emotional and unprofessional to wave a red flag.
Instead, she's labelled "irrational."
Ironically, in the end, the contractor was entirely rational and Ms. Bay's deadpan delivery of her operational ignorance is quiet and calmly unhinged.
I firmly believe rational behavior can't exist in chaotic circumstances. Rush created this environment that drove people nuts and I believe her behavior was a reflection of the frustration of being in that environment.
@@Supermanohman Exactly! The point when cognitive dissonance finally gives way to reality is very uncomfortable and probably looks irrational.
Agree.
To act unconcerned, unapologetic and concerned only with the way safety issues were communicated rather than with the actual concerns when five people died as a result of ignoring safety concern seems highly irrational to me.
She needs therapy.
Wow, she didn't even rehearse her lies and nonsense. "Um...um...um..." lol.
Remembers in great detail what the contractor supposedly did wrong. Can’t remember the details of the contractors safety concerns……..sometimes I forgor
4 innocents and a kamikaze officer in the deep! RIP especially for the young man.
Here we have again, the vagueness of a manager's lies...
The contractor didn't raise safety concerns. She always refers safety concerns to the engineering team. She referred the contractor to the engineering team. If the contractor didn't raise safety concerns, why did she refer her to the engineering team? Poor questioning.
For whatever reason I cannot stand this womana voice.
Probably has something to do with all the diarrhea exploding out of her mouth.
Lawyers must be lining up to sue the Rush estate and anyone who was in management