1 feature I miss from the EV3 is daisy chaining, 1 feature I appreciate about 51515 is absolute positioning motors, which makes it much easier to build walking robots
You can through Bluetooth. Even better than with cables. 24 ports in one system! Don't forget Technic hubs, they are 100% the same programmable robot brain as these expensive rechargeable hubs, yet 1/10th the price.
By far the best review I've found, great job. Wondering, Is it possible to decompile/see the source for the API blocks? I'd love to see the code for gelos kinematics for example and use that as a base for modding etc.
Very glad to hear you enjoyed the review! Your API idea is an interesting on which I will investigate. Perhaps I will make a tutorial on the subject :)
So good to see the return of my first robotics mentor. I can tell you, the more I have played with the Robot Inventor, the more I have liked it. So far the pros have far outweighed the cons with the set. I like to think I have only given up one port since I don't have to use one for the gyro, and you will find that it works much better. It never goes into drift. I look forward to seeing what you do with this new set.
I'm glad to be back! You have a great point about the ports, and I hadn't considered that; we don't have to worry about plugging in an accel/gyro! I'm going to be exploring the new gyro and accelerometer in the next few weeks, so stay tuned!
One serious problem I've found with Spike Prime and Robot Inventor is that you cannot copy/paste or import/export between projects. If you make a MyBlock, it is only in the project you create it in. If you need it in another project, you have code it again from scratch. You also can't hide the MyBlock code. The only work around I've found is to scroll the screen and place the MyBlock source code way over to the side so that it is out of view. I've contacted Lego Education Support on this issue, but the more people that complain, the soon they might fix it.
Nice Video... Just one quick note. Neither the BMW Z4 nor the Toyota Supra was produced in Germany. Instead they outsourced the production to Magna Steyr in Graz/Austria. 🙂
Yes, I know. I saw his video yesterday. Hopefully it won't be much longer before someone finds a way to connect the hubs without reserving a single port for a color sensor or motor on each one.
I miss charging the battery outside the hub. Sometimes you just need to quickly replace the battery with a charged one. And because of this, buying a new hub is pointlessly expensive. In EV3 it was possible to make various measurements, store data and later evaluate them in LabView. Nothing like this can be done in the new one. A big leap down at a time when there are a lot of cheap control boards like Raspberry PI, Arduino, etc. But your video is great :-)
This is a perspective that I completely forgot to mention, thanks for bringing it up! The battery packs are at least interchangeable, but you are right that you cannot charge them separately from the hub, which limits what you can do with them. Great observation!
It's unfortunate they reduced the number of ports. Have been coaching FLL since the mindstorm days. Large improvement from mindstorm to EV3 because it supports 4 motors. A step down from EV3 to Prime because of the fewer ports. Typically most team robots use the max 4 motors and 2 light sensors for the best configuration. On EV3 they would use a port for the gyro leaving one port for some other sensor. With Prime there are no more ports, so any other sensor can't be used. Bummer.
Yes, I am certainly "older" but at 20 years old, certainly not too old I hope! I'm still at university (in my third year) and I will resume schooling in a month. As for why I'm back, I put together a video explaining my thoughts behind coming back: ruclips.net/video/qAuc7XPLnng/видео.html :D
Haha guilty as charged... but I did go into more detail about the LEGO 51515 motors in a later video if you're interested: ruclips.net/video/7Jw8GjT1v7s/видео.html
Regarding your comments around 9:22: The original Robotics Invention System with the RCX included the old technic differential. The new one looks slick, but this is definitely not the first time Lego included a differential with Mindstorms.
I really like the rechargeable battery, absolute positioning, and the gyroscope/accelerometer. I do hope that daisy chaining could be added in the future though, as that would allow for more than 6 ports in complex models such as rubiks cube solvers. Also, do you think most people with EV3/NXT should upgrade to the Robot Inventor? For me, I probably won't get it right now, due to the limitations.
Great points! I think most people who use the EV3 would be very happy upgrading to LEGO 51515. It's just a handful of people for whom the limitations (no daisy chaining) will be in issue, especially if they are used to massive projects with multiple daisy-chained links.
Before 51515 Daisy Chain was released I wanted to buy * 1 Inventor 51515 and * 1 NXT 2.0 8547 For my younger siblings so they could have robot duels and create different things. But now as we have a Daisy Chain, What do you think, is it better to buy 2 51515s or 1 51515 and 1 NXT 2.0 8547?
Would be nice to know your opinion comparing this set with the Spike Prime for education and others that use Arduino, RasberryPi, or Microbit boards, with Ev3, Rcx, Wedo 1/2, power up Tecnich/city hub and smart bricks like Buwizz 3, PfxPro, Vex or Sbrick plus. Not only for robotics (motors, gears) but also info about sensors available for each platform.
@@Builderdude35 glad to have you back! keep up the fantastic work as always - you’ve inspired my FLL team to be better than ever! Thanks for all your help :)
I am honored to have been an inspiration for you! I am glad to have you as one of my supporters! Here's to a year 2021 full of sharing even more ideas!
Yh. Just 23 hours back was our clubs time and I showed them a video of yours on tips how to build an ev3 bot. BTW am mostly in school now so don't have time for utube now
You didn't say how long it took you to build Blast ( or Gelo, for that matter). And you're an experienced builder. Any idea as to how long it might take an average 12-year-old with no prior knowledge? Any feel for which robot would be the simplest to build for a newbie?
Great suggestion! that is a good practical solution. I just wish it was something we didn't have to do in the first place (NXT and EV3 batteries always fit snugly with no rattle).
Hi builderdude35, I am on an FLL team. I follow your videos for color sensors, but none of them worked. The ones that do work can’t seem to go on a slight turn. I still think ur vids are great though 😁 Can u plz give me some tips on how to make it work properly?
Hi Anika, would you be able to provide some more information. I'm not sure exactly what you tried and how it failed. Then I can try to offer some advice. :)
I am a middle school teacher in Huntington Beach, CA and have been using the EV3 for the last 3 years with my robotics class. I know I can still use EV3 for a while. One thing I like a lot about EV3 is the app can be used on our student chromebooks. Is the Inventor app available on a chromebook? Also wondering if Inventor is better than Prime for middle school students? Seems like Prime is more geared to schools (as it is part of the education division) than Inventor (part of the retail division). Also looks like Prime is more suited for primary students (up to grade 5). I would appreciate your thoughts.
I really enjoyed your very informative review. You are a very good communicator. However it was very difficult for me to concentrate on your words because the loud annoying music in the background. i couldn't put the volume down on the music and it is not necessary. Why have the competing annoyance when we are trying to enjoy your review.
I appreciate your feedback on this. The music was one of the new additions I was excited about and I took care to make sure the volumes were balanced, but given the feedback I have gotten, I am reconsidering including music in future videos. Thank you for sharing your experience to improve future videos! :D
@@Builderdude35 I really hope that you didn't compose it yourself but the music/MIDI(?) was really annoying.Sorry to be negative but I watch yt vids connected to a good sound system and the bass/music ruined the video for me.
Hey there and welcome to the channel! I am thrilled to have you! As far as I know, there isn't 3rd party support for Robot Inventor 51515 yet, but Spike Prime has been around for a while and it's bound to have some support by now. I anticipate a lot of the 3rd party stuff for Spike Prime will carry over to Robot Inventor 51515.
Give them Scratch and Pico-8. I'm a coding teacher, but I think the 51515 is best in the hands of 16+ kids, late high school, first year of college Mechanical Engineering. Especially the building/conceptual part is pretty rough for kids. Lego should really stop the fancy-pants looks of their kits, and set them in the market as young adult mechanical engineering design kits, like Fisher Technik did.
Hey ho! What is your opinion on using the Robot Inventor for education in a makerspace (not school with tight schedule)? I prefer the more complex models you can build with the parts of the Inventor. The spike prime models are quite simple to be able to build fast and the joy of building is missed... The inventor can use the firmware and software for spike right? Price wise is also better. I only need to sort the storage problem. Any ideas? Thanks!
hi. the rubote can move without the bluetooth (with baterry )?or they must moving with bluetooth? the box contain remote control also? or only with mobile phone?
Hi Arjun... would you be able to describe what "doesn't work" means? I would be happy to offer advice, but I am going to need a lot more information. :)
I'm not familiar with the rules for FLL anymore (it has been a few years lol). Spike Prime is officially recognized by FLL in some regions, MINDSTORMS Robot Inventor may be too new to be recognized yet, so just double check the rules in your region. Seeing that Spike and Robot Inventor are very similar, I imagine it's only a matter of time before Robot Inventor is approved too. And if Robot Inventor is already approved in your region, I agree with Gavin Mann that Robot Inventor gives you a better value for your dollar and would be my choice for FLL.
@@Builderdude35 Robot Inventor is legal for FLL this year: www.first-lego-league.org/en/challenge/faq/answers/is-the-new-lego-mindstorms-robot-inventor-allowed.html#:~:text=Yes%2C%20you%20may%20use%20the,in%20FIRST%20LEGO%20League%20Challenge.
@Love made in Japan well 51515 comes with more bricks. And the 51515 comes with an extra motor instead of the touch sensor included with spike prime. The actual functionality is the same though. You can use spike prime motors and sensors. in a 51515 hub, just the colour is different in that sense - although there are a few differences
@@Builderdude35 YAY I remember such a long time ago when I used your videos and it helped us win our state FLL championship and then covid happened so we never went further than that.
Congratulations, and sorry you never had the opportunity to go to the World Festival. My time at worlds was one of the most memorable of my life. I hope you have another opportunity to do it in the near future!
I have been using EV3 since it launched, and i will, probably, just go to two others FLL seasons, therefore, i was wondering if it was worthy to try learning how to program in a new way (Scratch or Python). What do you think about it? Thank you from Brazil! Obrigado!
Switch to Pybricks for now, it will take you out of the LEGO high-incopatibility realm into a unified platform that programs any kit so far (NXT, EV3, Spike, RI).
Great builderdude35 and great robotics set. I just want to know could we use Robot Inventor for educational purposes. I have been ev3 mindstorm for 3 years, it has many instructions, but spike seems very easy to build, why they didn't make spike prime more challenging as robot inventor? Because if the spike prime is for classroms shouldn't it be more challenging, have difficult and interesting instructions? Is it possible to use Robot Inventor in classrooms as replacement for ev3 mindstorm than using Spike Prime? Is it possible? Is there any restrictions or any rules that this is only for playing at home? So it has also programming app, I think there shouldn't be anyproblem. If the LEGO company says that robot inventor for home everyone should use at home?why nobody uses Robot Inventor in classrooms, cause it has more things to learn. Don't you think it is more helpful than Spike Prime? And the company should put Robot Inventor to classroom,and spike to home, what is your advice? Could I use robot inventor in my classes and is it okay to use them in FLL and WRO competitions? Thanks in advance, I know too much questions, this is just my weakness to ask more questions)
Hey there! I appreciate the questions! I think that Robot Inventor will be great for classrooms. In my opinion, LEGO's strategy is marketing Spike Prime for classrooms and Robot Inventor from home, but they are very similar products so you should be able to use one for the other and vice versa! There are no rules, so feel free to use whatever works for you! Robot Inventor doesn't have a curriculum that comes with it like the old EV3 used to, but of course, you always have my RUclips channel as a place where you can get lessons for Robot Inventor! :) I hope this helps!
Yes, of course it definitely helps. Thank you very much, but I think having about 900 details would be problematic in case of assembling the set after the lesson, and they release of inventor the touch sensor and motor if im not mistaken. Youre right it is just marketing they put one thing to education, another to home. So there is no exact perfect set.
@@Builderdude35 my main question is another one. So as I said before So i I have been teaching with ev3 mindstorm for almost 3 years at robotics course, but now I want to buy robots and run my own small business, but I don't know which to buy. I really wanted to buy ev3 mindstorm education set, but they say that price is going up and I'm afraid about the future of ev3 and also new ev3 classroom. What do you think about the future of programming app, will it continues to work or will be obsolete? So i want to buy ev3, but the reality is that I should buy Spike Prime. But I don't like spike prime, I can't see it like the replacement of ev3, even it seems that wedo2.0 is better than Spike Prime. Because the Spike Prime looks very easy to build, it looks like you're building nothing. So my children audience should be like 6-13 ages ( used to teach these age group even ev3) and know after this it looks like I'm going backwards, because I think it should be very easy if not for ages 6-8, but for 10+it is easy. There should be more steps for building anything, but for spike it takes about 3 minutes to build driving base. Even the official lesson plans for spike is considered for 30-45 min, but I use to provide my lessons for 90-120 min. I don't want my lesson to look like only coding Scratch lesson. So what should I do? What is your advice to me? I'm wrong about spike prime? Maybe its better than I think? But there is no any other way than buying a Spike Prime, because Iam not sure about the future of ev3. I'm in a big dilemma. I couldn't to decide what to buy? Ev3 is what i want, the reality is Spike Prime, and wedo2.0 is also could be ok, but there also risk that they could stop selling them in some years like ev3 and it has problems with Bluetooth and etc, but plus is that there building instructions more challenging and it's already compatible with Scratch 3.0. Will be there a good instruction( more advance like in ev3) for spike prime? What is your advice for me? Almost 3 month i think about it. The problem is that I have a few money and I could afford for the first time to buy only 5-6 robotics kits. So I shouldn't make a mistake. Where to invest to me if my audience will be mostly 7-12 years old kids? To ev3, wedo2.0 or just make myself believe that Spike is best? Maybe there is another robots that I should consider for replacing ev3? Or how could you teach with Spike Prime for 90-120 min for a bit older kids like 10+, i want it to be or extended at least to 90 min just like in ev3, because most children also like building activities, but there is no good building plans and instructions with more pieces in one activity, coding is also good, but spike is build very quickly, I don't know how I would manage to provide 90 min classes with just quick building lessons plans for 7-13 years older kids. Please write your answer with arguments because your thoughts are very important to me and I think could really help to solve these dilemma🤔🥴🤯 ev3, spike or wedo where to invest my small budget in terms of Future and Quality lesson plans, not in terms of money. ( for 7-12ages) I know ev3 is pumping and very expensive. Thansk in advance.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@nasimikamilzada795 Regarding your questions about the software: I think the EV3 software is already obsolete, especially in comparison to the Scratch/Python available with Spike Prime. If you want to teach students coding that will help them in the real world, why not teach them languages that are used in the real world like Scratch and Python? I think Scratch especially is more intuitive, more approachable, and more relevant than the EV3 software. I personally don't see Spike Prime as a step backwards like a lot of people are saying. Spike Prime is definitely more advanced than WeDo and I think it competes on the same level as the EV3 in terms of skill expectations. You said your target audience is students 7-12 years old, which is exactly who Spike Prime was intended for. I shared a lot of my thoughts on this in the video, so I won't repeat myself here. A lot of you last concern seems to center around how long it takes to build the robots (if I understand you reasoning correctly?). The meaningful lessons with the EV3 never had much to do with how long it takes to build the base model, and the same is true with Spike Prim. The real learning happens when students explore building their own models or expanding on the base model and exploring the software. With that said, Spike Prime will be at least as good on the building aspect (LEGO is still LEGO) and it is worlds better than the EV3 on the software front; having Python integration means the ceiling of possibility is way higher than it ever was for the EV3. If there are ways to make a 90-120 minute lesson work with an EV3, it can absolutely also be done for Spike. I hope this helps!
@@Builderdude35 thanks a lot, your advices definitely helps for sure. I have been following you almost 2 years, you are doing just professional reviews about robots and what I like most you're confident about your thoughts. Actually you're also right that my concerns are mostly about how to spend time more productively and about the time related to building instructions. I like Spike Prime, but maybe after 3 years of teaching Ev3 when I couldn't find more challenging robots with Spike just like how it was with EV3 and WEDO2.0, I think that Spike lacks in case of building different things( but you re right the pieces very similar). Maybe it will take some time in order enthusiasts like you explored Spike Prime deeper and find out more challenges about it, because now on the Internet is very small amount lesson plans, instructions and codes with Spike, I think this is because the Covid 19 came and lockdown of schools most teachers didn't buy them and couldn't improve Spike in the way of EV3 and WEDO2.0. Firstly I thought maybe Robot Inventor could be better in case of more pieces and cool robots than Spike cause when smth is built in Robot Inventor it looks more full like in EV3 than Spike.( but another thing is that Robot Inventor have lots of pieces and it could be problematic to assemble each time and also it comes just with cardboard pocket, not like educational box kit in Spike, this is also not good i think).Robots in Spike Prime looks less fully and takes a few time to build just 5-10 min, and in this case I should spend the rest of the lesson like an hour 15 min just by coding or adding some pieces to our robots, giving some tasks just in order to extend lesson, so it would be not natural extension of lesson, because in reality the lesson takes 45 min, and when I extend it to 90 min fictitiously it could reduce the quality of lesson, and actually i don't like to cheat and fool parents with their kids just because I can make some money. The problem is that I am not sure is it possible to give quality lesson with Spike Prime to kids between 6 -12? This my audience target. I know that it will be very good for ages 6,7,8 and even 9 ages, but what about 10-12? I am afraid robots could looked very easy to this older kids? Is there could be a bit more advanced robots( i mean just like EV3 official Driving base model with medium motor in the centre like in Ev3, cause it doesn't take 3 min to build it takes more time) in order to make my lesson both building and coding activities in the same level, and as a result my lesson wouldn't fictitiously extended to 90, they could look just like the real process with both building and coding activities for 90 min. So you have got Spike Prime as I'm not mistaken) For what ages would you use this robots? Does it suit in your classes( if you teach kids I don't know) to kids older 10+ years, let's say 10-13? Could they find it challenging a bit advanced than WEDO2.0? I mean what their reactions to Spike Prime? If ıt's very easy to build something in a few times for them, it could seems to the them not meaningful and they just will not want to continue attend lesson because they think it is easy for them and there is nothing to learn and find out about these robots, it's just psychology of most older kids, what can I do? That's why I'm sensitive about instruction parts, I have seen some older children that when they do something very easily, their ego says to themselves that you re not a kid, stop acting like a child , they want something more serious, otherwise they just stop coming to lesson. The question is that could I teach Spike Prime with 9-12 years old and do you do that also?( the Lego officially says that this is for kids between 12- 14 years old.) And do you think that Spike Prime is more advanced tool than WEDO2.0 just because of modern technology, new hub, improved sensors working? And what about Python, does it help in case of making some advance robotics coding activities just like in EV3, I mean does it have tools like mathematics block, my blocks, calibration and so on? Thanks in advance, hope you didn't get tired of my my questions but I deeply appreciate your advice and it really helps to come to conclusion🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 I feel that I almost decide what to buy)) I just want to be more confident about my decision.
Hey wanted to ask can we use elements and parts of EV3 in the new kit. I understand we can’t use the motors and the things like that but the other things.
A lot of MINDSTORMS enthusiasts say the same thing but honestly, I haven't really missed the screen. The smart device integration is so much smoother that it replaces the built-in screen while simultaneously giving you a better experience 95% of the time.
@@gotrobotfll3861 LEGO 51515 makes a strong case for itself but having four motors in the box, where Spike has only three. That's great for FLL teams and classrooms in general.
Yes! Kids tend to learn uses for motors before sensors. I should have been more specific. I was thinking of relaunching a robot with the clock running in FLL without a screen and with no device connected/ per the rules. Without having Robot Inventor/Spike Prime, it's hard to imagine how that will work smoothly during a match.
wow i remember when mindstorms EV3 came out and when i was using nxt those manny years ago lol and now we up to here???? amazing
Yeah it's incredible to think how the time has gone! I remember getting my first NXT ten years ago!
The Return of the King!
Flattered to be compared to a king... and glad to be back!
1 feature I miss from the EV3 is daisy chaining, 1 feature I appreciate about 51515 is absolute positioning motors, which makes it much easier to build walking robots
Indeed, there were a few interesting trade-offs; saying hello to one feature meant saying goodbye to another.
You can through Bluetooth. Even better than with cables. 24 ports in one system! Don't forget Technic hubs, they are 100% the same programmable robot brain as these expensive rechargeable hubs, yet 1/10th the price.
Unbrickme more like Unbrickmedaddy!!!
it is now added per update
@@RamiAl-Shawa ayo wth
I'm interested in seeing how this and Spike will change FLL, especially in terms of the requirements for autonomous operation.
Absolutely! I hope to do some videos on Spike Prime/Robot Inventor with relation to FLL when that season comes closer. Thanks for the idea!
By far the best review I've found, great job.
Wondering, Is it possible to decompile/see the source for the API blocks? I'd love to see the code for gelos kinematics for example and use that as a base for modding etc.
Very glad to hear you enjoyed the review! Your API idea is an interesting on which I will investigate. Perhaps I will make a tutorial on the subject :)
So good to see the return of my first robotics mentor. I can tell you, the more I have played with the Robot Inventor, the more I have liked it. So far the pros have far outweighed the cons with the set. I like to think I have only given up one port since I don't have to use one for the gyro, and you will find that it works much better. It never goes into drift. I look forward to seeing what you do with this new set.
I'm glad to be back! You have a great point about the ports, and I hadn't considered that; we don't have to worry about plugging in an accel/gyro! I'm going to be exploring the new gyro and accelerometer in the next few weeks, so stay tuned!
best intro video on the Lego 51515 I've seen
One serious problem I've found with Spike Prime and Robot Inventor is that you cannot copy/paste or import/export between projects. If you make a MyBlock, it is only in the project you create it in. If you need it in another project, you have code it again from scratch. You also can't hide the MyBlock code. The only work around I've found is to scroll the screen and place the MyBlock source code way over to the side so that it is out of view.
I've contacted Lego Education Support on this issue, but the more people that complain, the soon they might fix it.
Great point! Being able to import/export MyBlocks is really half the point of using them. I hope LEGO gets on this soon.
For every few steps backward, there are at least twice the amount forwards.
Nice Video... Just one quick note. Neither the BMW Z4 nor the Toyota Supra was produced in Germany. Instead they outsourced the production to Magna Steyr in Graz/Austria. 🙂
You are actually able to daisy chain them as an extension in the app where they send messages
Another plus point on the new system is that you can use all power funcions motors (besides WeDo 2.0) on it, even lego Boost! 😁
For real? This is amazing news! Does LEGO make an adapter cable to connect Power Functions to the 51515?
No,actually the Lego boost all sensor in one is also an ir receiver to the power functions
@@Builderdude35 no but I'm half certain 3rd party cables do work
There are script-based programming tricks for daisy-chaining Robot Inventor and Spike Prime hubs, but none of them have been publicly identified yet.
My friend Andy at AndysTechGarage figured out some daisy chaining tricks for LEGO 51515. Check it out here: ruclips.net/video/DBp3nf8R7-s/видео.html
Yes, I know. I saw his video yesterday. Hopefully it won't be much longer before someone finds a way to connect the hubs without reserving a single port for a color sensor or motor on each one.
@@hydroworld-soontobemigrate6160 maybe it's time for some Builderdude35 innovation! Stay tuned!
I've got fantastic news, everyone!: www.thenxtstep.com/2021/05/mindstorms-robot-inventor-is-now-even.html
Thank you for video!! I just got mine before it retires.
Back and better than ever.
Absolutely! Builderdude is back and ready to change the game again!
I miss charging the battery outside the hub. Sometimes you just need to quickly replace the battery with a charged one. And because of this, buying a new hub is pointlessly expensive. In EV3 it was possible to make various measurements, store data and later evaluate them in LabView. Nothing like this can be done in the new one. A big leap down at a time when there are a lot of cheap control boards like Raspberry PI, Arduino, etc. But your video is great :-)
This is a perspective that I completely forgot to mention, thanks for bringing it up! The battery packs are at least interchangeable, but you are right that you cannot charge them separately from the hub, which limits what you can do with them. Great observation!
Nice review dude, thanks for the info!
It's unfortunate they reduced the number of ports. Have been coaching FLL since the mindstorm days. Large improvement from mindstorm to EV3 because it supports 4 motors. A step down from EV3 to Prime because of the fewer ports. Typically most team robots use the max 4 motors and 2 light sensors for the best configuration. On EV3 they would use a port for the gyro leaving one port for some other sensor. With Prime there are no more ports, so any other sensor can't be used. Bummer.
Yes it's almost like one of those really frustrating Apple updates where the iPhone loses a bunch of ports each generation.
Wow, seeing you this old makes me feel old , and i am younger :)))
How was university ? How comes you are back ?
Yes, I am certainly "older" but at 20 years old, certainly not too old I hope! I'm still at university (in my third year) and I will resume schooling in a month. As for why I'm back, I put together a video explaining my thoughts behind coming back: ruclips.net/video/qAuc7XPLnng/видео.html :D
He didn't even mention the amazing 'absolute positioning' :D
I have lego('s cheap ass) boost and I know what off-set motors are...
Haha guilty as charged... but I did go into more detail about the LEGO 51515 motors in a later video if you're interested: ruclips.net/video/7Jw8GjT1v7s/видео.html
The motors are so small,it’s hard to take in
Regarding your comments around 9:22: The original Robotics Invention System with the RCX included the old technic differential. The new one looks slick, but this is definitely not the first time Lego included a differential with Mindstorms.
good to know
I really like the rechargeable battery, absolute positioning, and the gyroscope/accelerometer. I do hope that daisy chaining could be added in the future though, as that would allow for more than 6 ports in complex models such as rubiks cube solvers. Also, do you think most people with EV3/NXT should upgrade to the Robot Inventor? For me, I probably won't get it right now, due to the limitations.
Great points! I think most people who use the EV3 would be very happy upgrading to LEGO 51515. It's just a handful of people for whom the limitations (no daisy chaining) will be in issue, especially if they are used to massive projects with multiple daisy-chained links.
I think LEGO should of made it use USB for the motors and sensors and added a backlit LCD or OLED screen on it.
My first mindstorms set was the nxt and I got that set when I was 6 and I’m so excited to see what will come with the new robot inventor kit
I'm excited too! NXT 2.0 was my first MINDSTORMS as well!
i remember watching this channel when he was like 14
Great to see you back! Look forward to more. But....lose the background music when you talk. PLEASE! :)
Thanks, looking forward to publishing more. But sorry to say that the background music will stay :)
Daisy chaining is confirmed to come in an update for the system
This is good news! But I probably still won't use it haha :P
I saw the miata mx5 in the background
Thank you
Before 51515 Daisy Chain was released I wanted to buy
* 1 Inventor 51515 and
* 1 NXT 2.0 8547
For my younger siblings so they could have robot duels and create different things.
But now as we have a Daisy Chain, What do you think, is it better to buy 2 51515s or 1 51515 and 1 NXT 2.0 8547?
I thought it was pronounced like ‘jello’ but maybe I’m wrong, great review by the way, you’re my go to guy when it comes to Mindstorms!
Very glad to hear that! My goal is to be everyone's go-to, so I am happy to hear I am doing my job :)
Would be nice to know your opinion comparing this set with the Spike Prime for education and others that use Arduino, RasberryPi, or Microbit boards, with Ev3, Rcx, Wedo 1/2, power up Tecnich/city hub and smart bricks like Buwizz 3, PfxPro, Vex or Sbrick plus. Not only for robotics (motors, gears) but also info about sensors available for each platform.
Very intriguing idea! I will see what I can do about that!
Love the vid, phenomenal work!
I am thrilled you enjoyed it! I spent quite a bit of effort on this one, and I am happy to hear it paid off!
@@Builderdude35 glad to have you back! keep up the fantastic work as always - you’ve inspired my FLL team to be better than ever! Thanks for all your help :)
I am honored to have been an inspiration for you! I am glad to have you as one of my supporters! Here's to a year 2021 full of sharing even more ideas!
You should change your logo to be a 51515 hub instead of an Ev3
Nice vid bro. Better as usual.👍🏻👍🏻👌
Very glad to hear you liked it! I hope to keep improving every time
BTW sorry I watched it now busy with studies
Am planning to use your videos on Ev3 for the robotics club in our school for the fresh years so I think you really have become a professor👨🏫👩🎓
@@as-habulyameen1344 That is very cool for me to hear! I've already started my academic teaching career! I hope your club enjoys them!
Yh. Just 23 hours back was our clubs time and I showed them a video of yours on tips how to build an ev3 bot. BTW am mostly in school now so don't have time for utube now
Loved the video! Getting my set asap! Thx
Which is the ev3 robot in the background? Can we assemble it?
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Welcome back!
Thanks Philip! It is an honor to be back! :)
I have a question what’s the differential thing agin? I forgot.
You didn't say how long it took you to build Blast ( or Gelo, for that matter). And you're an experienced builder. Any idea as to how long it might take an average 12-year-old with no prior knowledge? Any feel for which robot would be the simplest to build for a newbie?
Nice video! I wonder if you are considering a reprise of your Timmyton robotic shark robot (this time using the 51515 Set pieces).... :)
That was the first thing I thought about... you will likely see it by the end of the month, or beginning of next!
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Cut a small piece of foam rubber to hold the battery so it doesnt rattle. A strip across the top and bottom should do it and not block the air.
Great suggestion! that is a good practical solution. I just wish it was something we didn't have to do in the first place (NXT and EV3 batteries always fit snugly with no rattle).
Hello, do you know how to connect Lego Mindstorms to Wi-Fi to control it via the Internet?
Hi builderdude35, I am on an FLL team. I follow your videos for color sensors, but none of them worked. The ones that do work can’t seem to go on a slight turn. I still think ur vids are great though 😁
Can u plz give me some tips on how to make it work properly?
Hi Anika, would you be able to provide some more information. I'm not sure exactly what you tried and how it failed. Then I can try to offer some advice. :)
Hi, is there anything new here? From Lego or any other brands?
Hello Kyle, thanks for the amazing video. I have a question. Can Mindstorms 51515 be programmed using ev3 software?
You are welcome. And no, you cannot program 51515 with EV3 software.
you can, but you need a 3rd part software
Good review and sound very loud that prevents to listen
Thank you for the feedback. I adjusted the music volume in my videos going forward to make listening easier. :)
I am a middle school teacher in Huntington Beach, CA and have been using the EV3 for the last 3 years with my robotics class. I know I can still use EV3 for a while. One thing I like a lot about EV3 is the app can be used on our student chromebooks. Is the Inventor app available on a chromebook? Also wondering if Inventor is better than Prime for middle school students? Seems like Prime is more geared to schools (as it is part of the education division) than Inventor (part of the retail division). Also looks like Prime is more suited for primary students (up to grade 5). I would appreciate your thoughts.
I really enjoyed your very informative review. You are a very good communicator. However it was very difficult for me to concentrate on your words because the loud annoying music in the background. i couldn't put the volume down on the music and it is not necessary. Why have the competing annoyance when we are trying to enjoy your review.
I appreciate your feedback on this. The music was one of the new additions I was excited about and I took care to make sure the volumes were balanced, but given the feedback I have gotten, I am reconsidering including music in future videos. Thank you for sharing your experience to improve future videos! :D
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I really hope that you didn't compose it yourself but the music/MIDI(?) was really annoying.Sorry to be negative but I watch yt vids connected to a good sound system and the bass/music ruined the video for me.
does it already have 3rd party support?
btw very nice video, you have a new sub! :)
Hey there and welcome to the channel! I am thrilled to have you! As far as I know, there isn't 3rd party support for Robot Inventor 51515 yet, but Spike Prime has been around for a while and it's bound to have some support by now. I anticipate a lot of the 3rd party stuff for Spike Prime will carry over to Robot Inventor 51515.
You forgot to mention that all motors have positioning
new vid nice
Thanks! Many more videos to come!
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Thanks so much for your honest review! I’m curious if you feel like this would be a nice introduction for a 9 year old who loves coding?
Give them Scratch and Pico-8. I'm a coding teacher, but I think the 51515 is best in the hands of 16+ kids, late high school, first year of college Mechanical Engineering. Especially the building/conceptual part is pretty rough for kids. Lego should really stop the fancy-pants looks of their kits, and set them in the market as young adult mechanical engineering design kits, like Fisher Technik did.
Idk why it’s price is 359.99 but not 360.00
Mine takes hours and hours to fully recharge. Any advice on that?
Use the Technic hub instead. You can use multiple sets on rechargeable AA batteries on that.
Hey ho! What is your opinion on using the Robot Inventor for education in a makerspace (not school with tight schedule)? I prefer the more complex models you can build with the parts of the Inventor. The spike prime models are quite simple to be able to build fast and the joy of building is missed... The inventor can use the firmware and software for spike right? Price wise is also better. I only need to sort the storage problem. Any ideas? Thanks!
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hi. the rubote can move without the bluetooth (with baterry )?or they must moving with bluetooth? the box contain remote control also? or only with mobile phone?
Hi builderdude35, we are following your channel. we tried your PID line follow code but didn’t work. Can you please help us. Thanks.
Hi Arjun... would you be able to describe what "doesn't work" means? I would be happy to offer advice, but I am going to need a lot more information. :)
Would you recommend spike prime or robot inventor for FLL?
i'm no expert, but the robot inventor comes with a lot more parts, and it is cheaper, so i'd pick robot inventor :)
I'm not familiar with the rules for FLL anymore (it has been a few years lol). Spike Prime is officially recognized by FLL in some regions, MINDSTORMS Robot Inventor may be too new to be recognized yet, so just double check the rules in your region. Seeing that Spike and Robot Inventor are very similar, I imagine it's only a matter of time before Robot Inventor is approved too. And if Robot Inventor is already approved in your region, I agree with Gavin Mann that Robot Inventor gives you a better value for your dollar and would be my choice for FLL.
@@Builderdude35 Robot Inventor is legal for FLL this year: www.first-lego-league.org/en/challenge/faq/answers/is-the-new-lego-mindstorms-robot-inventor-allowed.html#:~:text=Yes%2C%20you%20may%20use%20the,in%20FIRST%20LEGO%20League%20Challenge.
@Michele Perrin thanks so much for filling us in! That is great to know!
@Love made in Japan well 51515 comes with more bricks. And the 51515 comes with an extra motor instead of the touch sensor included with spike prime. The actual functionality is the same though. You can use spike prime motors and sensors. in a 51515 hub, just the colour is different in that sense - although there are a few differences
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@@Builderdude35 YAY I remember such a long time ago when I used your videos and it helped us win our state FLL championship and then covid happened so we never went further than that.
Congratulations, and sorry you never had the opportunity to go to the World Festival. My time at worlds was one of the most memorable of my life. I hope you have another opportunity to do it in the near future!
I have been using EV3 since it launched, and i will, probably, just go to two others FLL seasons, therefore, i was wondering if it was worthy to try learning how to program in a new way (Scratch or Python). What do you think about it?
Thank you from Brazil!
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Switch to Pybricks for now, it will take you out of the LEGO high-incopatibility realm into a unified platform that programs any kit so far (NXT, EV3, Spike, RI).
Great builderdude35 and great robotics set. I just want to know could we use Robot Inventor for educational purposes. I have been ev3 mindstorm for 3 years, it has many instructions, but spike seems very easy to build, why they didn't make spike prime more challenging as robot inventor? Because if the spike prime is for classroms shouldn't it be more challenging, have difficult and interesting instructions? Is it possible to use Robot Inventor in classrooms as replacement for ev3 mindstorm than using Spike Prime? Is it possible? Is there any restrictions or any rules that this is only for playing at home? So it has also programming app, I think there shouldn't be anyproblem. If the LEGO company says that robot inventor for home everyone should use at home?why nobody uses Robot Inventor in classrooms, cause it has more things to learn. Don't you think it is more helpful than Spike Prime? And the company should put Robot Inventor to classroom,and spike to home, what is your advice? Could I use robot inventor in my classes and is it okay to use them in FLL and WRO competitions? Thanks in advance, I know too much questions, this is just my weakness to ask more questions)
Hey there! I appreciate the questions! I think that Robot Inventor will be great for classrooms. In my opinion, LEGO's strategy is marketing Spike Prime for classrooms and Robot Inventor from home, but they are very similar products so you should be able to use one for the other and vice versa! There are no rules, so feel free to use whatever works for you! Robot Inventor doesn't have a curriculum that comes with it like the old EV3 used to, but of course, you always have my RUclips channel as a place where you can get lessons for Robot Inventor! :) I hope this helps!
Yes, of course it definitely helps. Thank you very much, but I think having about 900 details would be problematic in case of assembling the set after the lesson, and they release of inventor the touch sensor and motor if im not mistaken. Youre right it is just marketing they put one thing to education, another to home. So there is no exact perfect set.
@@Builderdude35 my main question is another one. So as I said before So i I have been teaching with ev3 mindstorm for almost 3 years at robotics course, but now I want to buy robots and run my own small business, but I don't know which to buy. I really wanted to buy ev3 mindstorm education set, but they say that price is going up and I'm afraid about the future of ev3 and also new ev3 classroom. What do you think about the future of programming app, will it continues to work or will be obsolete?
So i want to buy ev3, but the reality is that I should buy Spike Prime. But I don't like spike prime, I can't see it like the replacement of ev3, even it seems that wedo2.0 is better than Spike Prime. Because the Spike Prime looks very easy to build, it looks like you're building nothing. So my children audience should be like 6-13 ages ( used to teach these age group even ev3) and know after this it looks like I'm going backwards, because I think it should be very easy if not for ages 6-8, but for 10+it is easy. There should be more steps for building anything, but for spike it takes about 3 minutes to build driving base. Even the official lesson plans for spike is considered for 30-45 min, but I use to provide my lessons for 90-120 min. I don't want my lesson to look like only coding Scratch lesson. So what should I do? What is your advice to me? I'm wrong about spike prime? Maybe its better than I think? But there is no any other way than buying a Spike Prime, because Iam not sure about the future of ev3. I'm in a big dilemma. I couldn't to decide what to buy? Ev3 is what i want, the reality is Spike Prime, and wedo2.0 is also could be ok, but there also risk that they could stop selling them in some years like ev3 and it has problems with Bluetooth and etc, but plus is that there building instructions more challenging and it's already compatible with Scratch 3.0.
Will be there a good instruction( more advance like in ev3) for spike prime? What is your advice for me? Almost 3 month i think about it.
The problem is that I have a few money and I could afford for the first time to buy only 5-6 robotics kits. So I shouldn't make a mistake. Where to invest to me if my audience will be mostly 7-12 years old kids? To ev3, wedo2.0 or just make myself believe that Spike is best? Maybe there is another robots that I should consider for replacing ev3? Or how could you teach with Spike Prime for 90-120 min for a bit older kids like 10+, i want it to be or extended at least to 90 min just like in ev3, because most children also like building activities, but there is no good building plans and instructions with more pieces in one activity, coding is also good, but spike is build very quickly, I don't know how I would manage to provide 90 min classes with just quick building lessons plans for 7-13 years older kids. Please write your answer with arguments because your thoughts are very important to me and I think could really help to solve these dilemma🤔🥴🤯 ev3, spike or wedo where to invest my small budget in terms of Future and Quality lesson plans, not in terms of money. ( for 7-12ages) I know ev3 is pumping and very expensive.
Thansk in advance.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@@nasimikamilzada795 Regarding your questions about the software: I think the EV3 software is already obsolete, especially in comparison to the Scratch/Python available with Spike Prime. If you want to teach students coding that will help them in the real world, why not teach them languages that are used in the real world like Scratch and Python? I think Scratch especially is more intuitive, more approachable, and more relevant than the EV3 software.
I personally don't see Spike Prime as a step backwards like a lot of people are saying. Spike Prime is definitely more advanced than WeDo and I think it competes on the same level as the EV3 in terms of skill expectations. You said your target audience is students 7-12 years old, which is exactly who Spike Prime was intended for. I shared a lot of my thoughts on this in the video, so I won't repeat myself here.
A lot of you last concern seems to center around how long it takes to build the robots (if I understand you reasoning correctly?). The meaningful lessons with the EV3 never had much to do with how long it takes to build the base model, and the same is true with Spike Prim. The real learning happens when students explore building their own models or expanding on the base model and exploring the software. With that said, Spike Prime will be at least as good on the building aspect (LEGO is still LEGO) and it is worlds better than the EV3 on the software front; having Python integration means the ceiling of possibility is way higher than it ever was for the EV3. If there are ways to make a 90-120 minute lesson work with an EV3, it can absolutely also be done for Spike.
I hope this helps!
@@Builderdude35 thanks a lot, your advices definitely helps for sure. I have been following you almost 2 years, you are doing just professional reviews about robots and what I like most you're confident about your thoughts.
Actually you're also right that my concerns are mostly about how to spend time more productively and about the time related to building instructions. I like Spike Prime, but maybe after 3 years of teaching Ev3 when I couldn't find more challenging robots with Spike just like how it was with EV3 and WEDO2.0, I think that Spike lacks in case of building different things( but you re right the pieces very similar). Maybe it will take some time in order enthusiasts like you explored Spike Prime deeper and find out more challenges about it, because now on the Internet is very small amount lesson plans, instructions and codes with Spike, I think this is because the Covid 19 came and lockdown of schools most teachers didn't buy them and couldn't improve Spike in the way of EV3 and WEDO2.0.
Firstly I thought maybe Robot Inventor could be better in case of more pieces and cool robots than Spike cause when smth is built in Robot Inventor it looks more full like in EV3 than Spike.( but another thing is that Robot Inventor have lots of pieces and it could be problematic to assemble each time and also it comes just with cardboard pocket, not like educational box kit in Spike, this is also not good i think).Robots in Spike Prime looks less fully and takes a few time to build just 5-10 min, and in this case I should spend the rest of the lesson like an hour 15 min just by coding or adding some pieces to our robots, giving some tasks just in order to extend lesson, so it would be not natural extension of lesson, because in reality the lesson takes 45 min, and when I extend it to 90 min fictitiously it could reduce the quality of lesson, and actually i don't like to cheat and fool parents with their kids just because I can make some money.
The problem is that I am not sure is it possible to give quality lesson with Spike Prime to kids between 6 -12?
This my audience target. I know that it will be very good for ages 6,7,8 and even 9 ages, but what about 10-12? I am afraid robots could looked very easy to this older kids? Is there could be a bit more advanced robots( i mean just like EV3 official Driving base model with medium motor in the centre like in Ev3, cause it doesn't take 3 min to build it takes more time) in order to make my lesson both building and coding activities in the same level, and as a result my lesson wouldn't fictitiously extended to 90, they could look just like the real process with both building and coding activities for 90 min.
So you have got Spike Prime as I'm not mistaken) For what ages would you use this robots? Does it suit in your classes( if you teach kids I don't know) to kids older 10+ years, let's say 10-13? Could they find it challenging a bit advanced than WEDO2.0? I mean what their reactions to Spike Prime? If ıt's very easy to build something in a few times for them, it could seems to the them not meaningful and they just will not want to continue attend lesson because they think it is easy for them and there is nothing to learn and find out about these robots, it's just psychology of most older kids, what can I do? That's why I'm sensitive about instruction parts, I have seen some older children that when they do something very easily, their ego says to themselves that you re not a kid, stop acting like a child , they want something more serious, otherwise they just stop coming to lesson.
The question is that could I teach Spike Prime with 9-12 years old and do you do that also?( the Lego officially says that this is for kids between 12- 14 years old.)
And do you think that Spike Prime is more advanced tool than WEDO2.0 just because of modern technology, new hub, improved sensors working?
And what about Python, does it help in case of making some advance robotics coding activities just like in EV3, I mean does it have tools like mathematics block, my blocks, calibration and so on?
Thanks in advance, hope you didn't get tired of my my questions but I deeply appreciate your advice and it really helps to come to conclusion🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I feel that I almost decide what to buy))
I just want to be more confident about my decision.
Hey wanted to ask can we use elements and parts of EV3 in the new kit. I understand we can’t use the motors and the things like that but the other things.
Its LEGO technic..... that is compatible since the seventies.
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man i just bought nxt 1.0 on ebay for 150 uros so i think its a deal
Sick and tired of everything needing an app on your phone or ipad.
Someone tell him that this is being discontinued
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You better believe it!
disappointed.......as there is no screen
A lot of MINDSTORMS enthusiasts say the same thing but honestly, I haven't really missed the screen. The smart device integration is so much smoother that it replaces the built-in screen while simultaneously giving you a better experience 95% of the time.
@@Builderdude35 Agreed for home projects, but I wonder how it is translating for FLL and similar competitions.
@@gotrobotfll3861 LEGO 51515 makes a strong case for itself but having four motors in the box, where Spike has only three. That's great for FLL teams and classrooms in general.
Yes! Kids tend to learn uses for motors before sensors. I should have been more specific. I was thinking of relaunching a robot with the clock running in FLL without a screen and with no device connected/ per the rules. Without having Robot Inventor/Spike Prime, it's hard to imagine how that will work smoothly during a match.
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