I like this extensive unboxing video! Very professional setup, calm and clear explanations and you nicely discuss and show the parts. Can't wait to get the set myself Thursday!
Great video! Am indeed curious if lag can be minimized. My own exeperience shows that is could be the Lego software used. Perhaps a 3rd party software solves this issue. Another thing I'd like to know, can the motors now be used as a sensor using the absolute positioning? Keep it up!
Yes, the motors can be used as a sensor. They have a little friction, though. I think @Pybricks will run on this hub at some point. That will reduce the lag.
I think pretty much every aspect of the new system is an upgrade over the previous systems except for the removal of daisy chaining. Why do you think LEGO removed such a useful functionality?
You are great! What a beautiful review! I've got a couple of questions: - Can you connect two hubs of the 51515 via bluetooth for large projects? - Can you also use the Powered Up Technic Hub motors for the 51515 hub? The connectors seem the same ... And I can also imagine that it is possible to link this hub to each other via bluetooth and to control everything from the software program of the 51515. Is this correct, or does it fail to link and exchange? - I assume that there will be extension cables for the motors, then that limited length doesn't seem like a problem anymore, right? Thanks in advance for the response!
- not that I know. Only one hub connected at a time for the moment. - not with LEGO firmware. As soon as the guys at Pybricks have their port ready, it will be possible.
@@AntonsMindstorms Actually you can use the lego powered up motors with the new mindstorms hub out of the box with lego software! No third parties needed!
I loved your video. I love i can use my technic sets with this one. I think there ade another two turntables in the Mars Perseverance rover set. I only dont like the tile color. There should be minifigures as well.
It's in the works. Be sure to check the mindcuber website from time to time! You can also subscribe to his channel: ruclips.net/channel/UCEN9X6s2BVHEFnMX-W_kDng
This is great stuff. I love how fast and easy it is to get from the unopened box to a simple and functioning robot so quickly. My NXT broke a year ago, so I'm really considering the new systems that LEGO is releasing. Do you know if Powered Up components work on this as well since they have the same connector?
Not out of the box. You need some hacks and probably a third party firmware. Compatibility is a software thing, the Powered up hardware works fine on MINDSTORMS.
Thanks for the video, I did try the Mindstorms app right after watching it on the Spike Prime set I’ve got. And to my surprise it works great. I could control my spike prime robot with a PS4 controller via an iPad, and without much lag. I did had to change the firmware that isn’t compatible with the Spike prime app afterwards. It was a jump in the deep but I couldn’t resist to test. But Spike prime asks to update the firmware back to the spike prime firmware on connecting. So if you plan to switch programs you’ll need to change firmware back and forth but it is possible.
Indeed. The hubs have identical hardware, just different colors. I believe mindstorms scratch doesn't support the force sensor. Via python you can access it
1.Did you try to download your program into a Hub? Maybe connection only between Hub and gamepad without laptop in the middle will be faster (smaller lag)? 2. Does the program stay in Hub memory after power off an on?
1.) I don't think you can control the hub with just the controller. You still need the computer. Atleast I wasn't able to do it. 2.) You can stream the program to your hub or download it to the hub. If you downloaded it to the hub you can also start it after you powered off and on and without the need of a computer or smartphone. You can save 20 programs to your hub.
This is a really nice review, thank you! Do you know if there is any compatibility between 51515 and 31313? Or are there 3rd party ways to make at least some parts compatible?
Great video, thanks for review. But it looks like it doesn't work with dualshock 3 :( Controller itself is connected to the mac, but signals are not getting to the hub
Hi I have a question, May I know how to sort numbers in order using array in ev3 legomindstorm programming? this task is given by my mentor but I do not know how to program. I hope u could help me in the program.. U may reply my comment if u r willing to help. Thanks
Hi, This is very detailed video and quite nice. Which one do you think is better. Is it spike prime 45678 or mindstorms 51515. Any comparison or views from your side please. Need to consider variations, creativivity, cost, etc. Your suggestion please :)
@@shyamsaraf5739 Then get 51515. Especially if you take the time to play together. Check my comparison here: antonsmindstorms.com/2020/10/17/lego-51515-robot-inventor-vs-spike-prime-set-45678/
@@AntonsMindstorms Thanks. I did go through this. It's very nice. Just 2 more queries please. 1. with spike prime won't he will be able to design more robots and if combined with expansion set then its more variations. I have heard that the software is more sequenced and structured for spike prime. Yous inputs pls. 2. Also, is it a good idea to buy both spike prime and 51515 at an interval of 4 to 7 months or will it be duplicates.
@@shyamsaraf5739 1. Yes. That's why you should play together. 51515 has more plastic (& possibilities) for the money. 2. Will be duplicates. More or less.
Great video Anton! Quick question, do you have problems with the ultrasonic sensor not measuring past 150cm? Anything right after 150 cm registers 200cm.
@@AntonsMindstorms the education version will get discontinued too after a couple years, just like how the NXT education version was still supported for a couple years after EV3 release
@@Unbrickme Of course. But there is a much bigger fan community around EV3 than around NXT. EV3 runs Linux and works without LEGO software from within VS Code, which makes the platform extremely long-lived.
@@AntonsMindstorms Actually, the community was far more active during the NXT era than EV3. Just look at google search trends and RUclips search trends. The NXT also supported non-lego programming software, using the NXC programming. NXT overall is a much better platform than the EV3. EV3 also has the god awful super slow start up and shut down time. it's much slower than my work computer. EV3 is pathetic
@@Unbrickme Yes NXT is nice. It has become increasingly hard to repair the defect displays, though. The cool thing is that 51515 has similar specs as 20 year old NXT. :)
Gaming Z yeah, it’s not even processing anything on the hub. All the computer processing happens on the mobile device, while the control+ hub is connected via Bluetooth
Can someone tell me if there's any available lego mindstorms that actually incorporates LEGOs and build customization. All I see is boring kinects with template robots...
Antons Mindstorms Hacks Antons Mindstorms Hacks Thanks, Anton. I just saw it. Unbelievably amazing job! How did you do the sorting? How can it be that extremely tidy for your volume display? It will be another amazing video if you can show how you did it. Thanks so much, and I really appreciate your work, cheers!
@GrandiJoos Thanks for the information. I guess I missed it and will check the video again later. It’s so realistic and hard for me to imagine the volume display was digitally generated. If that’s true, I need to learn more about this awesome software instead!
This is the best review on the new lego robot inventor set I’ve ever seen!
I love how anton is so cheery
he is yummy :)
I like this extensive unboxing video! Very professional setup, calm and clear explanations and you nicely discuss and show the parts. Can't wait to get the set myself Thursday!
Thanks for these kind words. I worked hard and I appreciate it.
Looking forward to the parts list by the way! :D
Part list is here: antonsmindstorms.com/2020/10/10/lego-mindstorms-robot-inventor-set-51515-part-list/
27:40 Actually, the NXT 1.0 set had plenty of optional stickers just like this set
Managed to wind up a cable motor inside the turntable, turns out the cables are pretty strong so I wouldn't worry too much about breaking them.
Thank you for putting this video! I am glad I finally got to learn about the 51515 in depth!
You're welcome!
Great video! Am indeed curious if lag can be minimized. My own exeperience shows that is could be the Lego software used. Perhaps a 3rd party software solves this issue. Another thing I'd like to know, can the motors now be used as a sensor using the absolute positioning? Keep it up!
Yes, the motors can be used as a sensor. They have a little friction, though. I think @Pybricks will run on this hub at some point. That will reduce the lag.
Rebrikable proposed to call it RI5 (from Robotic Invention and the set number). I like it and dig the proposal. We need a TLA to make comparisons :)
I think pretty much every aspect of the new system is an upgrade over the previous systems except for the removal of daisy chaining. Why do you think LEGO removed such a useful functionality?
Who knows maybe they will add it back in the future
Gaming Z I hope so! The hardware seems to support daisy chaining, since I’ve checked the specifications! I think it’s only a matter of software update
@@Unbrickme I agree I think it's too important of a feature to never support and it wouldn't allow people to make more complicated robots
@Unbrickme As of July 2021 I'm pretty sure they have actually added daisy chaining back
no reply or answer.
Don't throw away a motor if cable is damaged, electronics engineer can repare it for you.
How I wish I could buy this amazing kit. It's quite the upgrade over the old one, especially with the hub and more pieces
It really is!
You are great! What a beautiful review!
I've got a couple of questions:
- Can you connect two hubs of the 51515 via bluetooth for large projects?
- Can you also use the Powered Up Technic Hub motors for the 51515 hub? The connectors seem the same ... And I can also imagine that it is possible to link this hub to each other via bluetooth and to control everything from the software program of the 51515. Is this correct, or does it fail to link and exchange?
- I assume that there will be extension cables for the motors, then that limited length doesn't seem like a problem anymore, right?
Thanks in advance for the response!
- not that I know. Only one hub connected at a time for the moment.
- not with LEGO firmware. As soon as the guys at Pybricks have their port ready, it will be possible.
@@AntonsMindstorms Actually you can use the lego powered up motors with the new mindstorms hub out of the box with lego software! No third parties needed!
Thanks👍
@@AntonsMindstorms Unbrickme reported that the daisy chaining update will arrive shortly
*hub2hub* should be an answer
Thank you for your review. It is very useful.
MindStorms EV5! Love ur vids, really looking forward to buying this set
BTW this isn’t my account I’m using someone else’s Mac
Did you know you can use normal motors from lego technic and lego BOOST on this thing :D I think even sensors! :DDDD
What about instead of the Mindstorms Robot Inventor. we just call it Lego Mindstorms MRI?
Nice!!
I just started calling to let go again because on my video games kind of got more I can’t wait to get this site
Thanks for sharing Anton :-)
I loved your video. I love i can use my technic sets with this one. I think there ade another two turntables in the Mars Perseverance rover set.
I only dont like the tile color. There should be minifigures as well.
Thanks Anton for great video, amazing set I bought for myse... my daughter of course ;)
Glad you like it!
I got this set!
please make a rubick cube solver robot and tutorial with this set
It's in the works. Be sure to check the mindcuber website from time to time! You can also subscribe to his channel: ruclips.net/channel/UCEN9X6s2BVHEFnMX-W_kDng
thanks
Awesome review Anton
This is great stuff. I love how fast and easy it is to get from the unopened box to a simple and functioning robot so quickly. My NXT broke a year ago, so I'm really considering the new systems that LEGO is releasing. Do you know if Powered Up components work on this as well since they have the same connector?
Not out of the box. You need some hacks and probably a third party firmware. Compatibility is a software thing, the Powered up hardware works fine on MINDSTORMS.
@@AntonsMindstorms Ah, I see. Thanks for letting me know! Hopefully I can get a MINDSTORMS set some day and try it out.
@@AntonsMindstorms Actually powered up motors work together with the mindstorms hub out of the box! I've tested it and it works perfectly!
@@Unbrickme oh you're here too you also have a great video on this
Gaming Z thank you so much!
Add a gearbox to make the car move faster.
Music like from movie "The Thing" little scary;)
love it
Very well made unboxing video, from beginning to the end. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for the video, I did try the Mindstorms app right after watching it on the Spike Prime set I’ve got. And to my surprise it works great. I could control my spike prime robot with a PS4 controller via an iPad, and without much lag. I did had to change the firmware that isn’t compatible with the Spike prime app afterwards. It was a jump in the deep but I couldn’t resist to test. But Spike prime asks to update the firmware back to the spike prime firmware on connecting. So if you plan to switch programs you’ll need to change firmware back and forth but it is possible.
Indeed. The hubs have identical hardware, just different colors. I believe mindstorms scratch doesn't support the force sensor. Via python you can access it
@@AntonsMindstorms you can also use the spike prime app with the new mindstorms if you really want the force sensor on scratch.
@@Unbrickme There is an extension for the force sensor I'm pretty sure so you can still use it on the Mindstorms 51515 software
@@kingpepe3167 True, but at the time that I wrote the first comment, it wasn't possible yet. There was no more sensors extension
Amazing Kit!!! I need it😍
I loved this video❤️
You're welcome. And I'm always open to video improvement ideas!
@@AntonsMindstorms I just want to say that I am excited for new videos with this set and new interesting experiments! Thank You! 😃👌
only 1.82k subs? wow you deserve more, very straightforward, i subbed
1.Did you try to download your program into a Hub? Maybe connection only between Hub and gamepad without laptop in the middle will be faster (smaller lag)?
2. Does the program stay in Hub memory after power off an on?
1.) I don't think you can control the hub with just the controller. You still need the computer. Atleast I wasn't able to do it.
2.) You can stream the program to your hub or download it to the hub. If you downloaded it to the hub you can also start it after you powered off and on and without the need of a computer or smartphone. You can save 20 programs to your hub.
@@Larry98 Thanks for answers!
Gamepad only works in sloooow streaming mode. :( I hope third party firmware or better LEGO firmware will fix that.
the ball with the axel hole is a really old part... Nice video By the way.
Thanks!
Very nicely done!
How to get that set I really like it
This is a really nice review, thank you! Do you know if there is any compatibility between 51515 and 31313? Or are there 3rd party ways to make at least some parts compatible?
The sensors can be made compatible, but not the motors. And both hubs can communicate.
that uhm.. ball with an axel hole is NOT a new part. that came with the original Toa Mata Bionicle sets, just in black. its ancient
Thanks. I only play with Technic, never had any Bionicle. It was new to me.
@@AntonsMindstorms
Ah, thats fair. Bionicle us what got me into technic eventually.
well i like this good lego
Now that you've got the new Mindstorms and Spike, are you going to sell off your EV3 parts ?
No. I love the fact that ev3 runs Linux. That will come in handy at some point.
Great video, thanks for review. But it looks like it doesn't work with dualshock 3 :( Controller itself is connected to the mac, but signals are not getting to the hub
Yes. I had a 3, but I had to buy a 4 for this video.
How much can we in the US expect the price to be?
What does google tell you?
$360 USD Retail price
AM I COLOR BLIND OR IS THE LEGO TECHNIC BASE PLATE BLUE 1:44
i have 4 ev3 hubs and 1 nxt hub
That's great. Planning to expand you collection with Robot Inventor?
@@AntonsMindstorms im not planing to buy this as i have 4 ev3 s and 1 nxt plus it dosent have a digital display
@@creativeedits4061 it has somewhat a display but it's definitely meant to be more focused on controlling from the app
@@gamingz5245 but still it canot run python and stuf like that and the cables are very limeted
@@creativeedits4061 it can run python you can use python directly through the app
Anton, where did you download the software? I have got the kit, but I can not find the app or the software...
Try on google playstore if that works!
It's in the iOS appstore, I believe. It's also in the mac app store, under the apple menu.
@@MegaMike1 yes, it is there! It wasn't yesterday... Is the software for Windows online also?
@@BlacktreeBricks Hey I tried searching Lego Mindstorms Robot Inventory on Google play store and seemed to work.
@@MegaMike1 Yes, but there isn't any software for Windows just yet.
Is there a way with python to via a PS4 controller make a situation become and stay true?
Not yet. I think I can hack it, but I haven't found the time. Maybe over the Christmas holidays...
Can the motors be used as sensors?
Yes. They have some internal friction, though.
Awesome channel Anton!
Thanks!
Oh me gustaria tener un set de legos mindstorms :'V/
Hello.plz can you provide us the instructions building steps in pdf file ? Thanks
Call it MRI5
When will lego start selling extra motors and sensors separately?
Edit: also maybe a in-depth comparison between this and ev3
You'll find that on my website: antonsmindstorms.com/2020/10/11/robot-inventor-vs-ev3/
@@AntonsMindstorms thx
Is the motors for the spike prime compatible with this hub/brain?
Yes
Thank you, also when will you upload again
Thank you for the content. what is the best site to buy 3rd party sensors and motors?
It doesn't matter much. Anything pretty much works.
00:17 dutch name?🇱🇺
what software you use? becaus on spike not have the opition dualshock
Hi I have a question, May I know how to sort numbers in order using array in ev3 legomindstorm programming? this task is given by my mentor but I do not know how to program. I hope u could help me in the program.. U may reply my comment if u r willing to help. Thanks
What have you tried?
@@AntonsMindstorms if you are trying to learn to program you can just use the scratch 3 block based programming or you can learn python
the hub has same startup sound?
Yes.
thanks
is the hub and the little extra devices compatible with lego boost?
Technically, yes. The firmware doesn't allow it. (yet?)
@@AntonsMindstorms thank you
okay but what sends a signal to the ulrasonic sensor?
Can someone tell me if one can use the controller from the PS5 or i have to buy the old one?
Hi, This is very detailed video and quite nice. Which one do you think is better. Is it spike prime 45678 or mindstorms 51515. Any comparison or views from your side please. Need to consider variations, creativivity, cost, etc. Your suggestion please :)
It depends. What do you want to do with it?
@@AntonsMindstorms I would want my 8 year old to learn, innovate and play. He has already done lego boost
@@shyamsaraf5739 Then get 51515. Especially if you take the time to play together. Check my comparison here: antonsmindstorms.com/2020/10/17/lego-51515-robot-inventor-vs-spike-prime-set-45678/
@@AntonsMindstorms Thanks. I did go through this. It's very nice. Just 2 more queries please.
1. with spike prime won't he will be able to design more robots and if combined with expansion set then its more variations. I have heard that the software is more sequenced and structured for spike prime. Yous inputs pls.
2. Also, is it a good idea to buy both spike prime and 51515 at an interval of 4 to 7 months or will it be duplicates.
@@shyamsaraf5739 1. Yes. That's why you should play together. 51515 has more plastic (& possibilities) for the money.
2. Will be duplicates. More or less.
Great video Anton! Quick question, do you have problems with the ultrasonic sensor not measuring past 150cm? Anything right after 150 cm registers 200cm.
Hm. The beam become quite wide at that distance. Maybe it hits the ground?
It's called SPIKE.
Is this set the replacement for ev3?
It's a replacement for retail 31313. I think the education version of ev3 will continue.
@@AntonsMindstorms the education version will get discontinued too after a couple years, just like how the NXT education version was still supported for a couple years after EV3 release
@@Unbrickme Of course. But there is a much bigger fan community around EV3 than around NXT. EV3 runs Linux and works without LEGO software from within VS Code, which makes the platform extremely long-lived.
@@AntonsMindstorms Actually, the community was far more active during the NXT era than EV3. Just look at google search trends and RUclips search trends. The NXT also supported non-lego programming software, using the NXC programming. NXT overall is a much better platform than the EV3. EV3 also has the god awful super slow start up and shut down time. it's much slower than my work computer. EV3 is pathetic
@@Unbrickme Yes NXT is nice. It has become increasingly hard to repair the defect displays, though. The cool thing is that 51515 has similar specs as 20 year old NXT. :)
you can just call it EV4
no, that's like calling the new system RCX 5.0
@@Unbrickme correct what's the problem?
Gaming Z well, it’s just not right to call the new system EV4. Do we call the ev3 RCX 4.0? Or do we call the ev3 NXT 3.0?
@@Unbrickme good point but it's easier to say something like EV4 than the whole name if the set or something like that
@@gamingz5245 an easy name could just be Robot Inventor
thank you for the awesome video
Does it work only with the original ps4 controller or also with third party controllers for ps4?
I only have the original. So I wouldn;t know. But I think it does.
It's weird cause I tried this with my Xbox One controller through my phone to the bot and got nothing. Same program too
I'm having the same trouble, the Xbox controller works on the MVP Xbox activity code but not a blank project.
Had to stream it rather than play from hub
can you use an xbox controller?
Can the program be uploaded into the hub to operate it autonomously from the laptop?
Yes!
Why do these cost £250 and up
I don't know. High quality?
did they at least credit scratch for using their app?
They cooperate with MIT, the home of scratch.
@@AntonsMindstorms oh
Big like! I like it and I subsc.
Its very cool
Do you think i could use this set to modify my technic creations like cars and cranes
Yes. Better than technic hub
@@AntonsMindstorms oh yeah the 4 port technic control+ hub is awful. No screen/navigation of any kind and ZERO internal memory
@@Unbrickme basically it's just a bluetooth controller
Gaming Z yeah, it’s not even processing anything on the hub. All the computer processing happens on the mobile device, while the control+ hub is connected via Bluetooth
Can someone tell me if there's any available lego mindstorms that actually incorporates LEGOs and build customization. All I see is boring kinects with template robots...
Can you clarify your question? An example?
there is no gyro sensor in the whole kit?
It is placed in the main hub i believe.
Correct
20:03 sorry but that part is allready getting old... That's nothing new sorry...
Nice job, Anton. I can't believe I watched the whole thing! Could you provide the part list you mentioned in your video? Thanks! BMC
Working on it. I hope to finish it today.
antonsmindstorms.com/2020/10/10/lego-mindstorms-robot-inventor-set-51515-part-list/
Antons Mindstorms Hacks Antons Mindstorms Hacks Thanks, Anton. I just saw it. Unbelievably amazing job! How did you do the sorting? How can it be that extremely tidy for your volume display? It will be another amazing video if you can show how you did it. Thanks so much, and I really appreciate your work, cheers!
@@MolecularAlchemist I'm assuming it's digitally generated, I guess he mentions it.
@GrandiJoos Thanks for the information. I guess I missed it and will check the video again later. It’s so realistic and hard for me to imagine the volume display was digitally generated. If that’s true, I need to learn more about this awesome software instead!
why is he taking so long?
hi do you know how to download existed program from controller to ipad?
I use airdrop. Does that work for you?
this is my birthday date
Congrats!
Jij bent sowieso nederlands
will it work with a wireless xbox controller I wonder?
As long as its Bluetooth yes
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How did you created the part list on your website?
With bricklink studio
@@AntonsMindstorms Okay thanks! :)
But it is more than ₹80,000 in india 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Yeah, it's expensive. But it is a lot of fun! It's the only box you need.
@@AntonsMindstorms true
what about ps5 controller anyone tried ?
I was thinking about getting a PS5, but then I wouldn't have time to build MINDSTORMS anymore. 🤣
@@AntonsMindstorms yep, at least for couple months ;) but I have this behind me. So now time for Mindstorms, that's why I'm asking.
@@AntonsMindstorms just tested with iOS 14.5 and DualSense PS5 controller and works really well.