When it was on sale (white only) in Canada, I thought about getting it for my mother. But I didn't because I would use it once a month, too. Elected to keep her with a hand grinder for now. Lol. Don't you know it... I want the new one, now!
Not sure if this will be available as an aftermarket part. I don’t see why not 🤷🏻♂️ The static reduction is fantastic, every grinder should have active management like this
@@LifestyleLab_ yeah, I tried to search their site, they have the OG hopper out there, but the Gen2 isn't there yet - probably all going into the grinders themselves at this point.
bought it from fellow and got it in the mail like... 1 1/2 days later. didn't pay any extra for shipping or anything. seriously fantastic grinder. 20g, 50g, or the 100g hopper max. all done in a couple seconds as uniform as is reasonable to expect.
I just upgraded my Gen 1 ode to the Gen 2 Burrs. I feel like I'm going to miss the anti static featues. I may move my Gen 1 to my desk at work, and get the Gen 2 for home.
I’ll be switching to the gen 2 catch cup (I assume they will sell them by themselves), as I dislike the lid on the old one. Having said that, I mostly use my Weber blind shaker with the Ode: it’s brilliant for pour over and works like it was made for the grinder.
Wonder what you think of a manual Eureka (like the facile) which is close in price below 400, compared to this gen 2 Ode. Probably less clarity for filter coffee?
The SSP MP burrs will have noticeably better clarity over the stock Gen 2 burrs. If this is something you look for in coffee, then it may be worth the upgrade. If you generally prefer a more balanced cup, and slightly heavier body, then the Fellow burrs may actually be better for you :)
I have the older version gen 1 grinder. I upgraded the burrs about a month ago and I’m having issues where the grinder stalls out, quits before all of the 25 grams of coffee are ground. I was thinking about switching to the Opus thinking that it has a stronger motor. Does the Ode gen 2 have a stronger motor than the gen 1? I use a Aero Press for my coffee.
Wondering. Are the fins in the catch cup really necessary? I wouldn’t think it would be difficult to dump the grinds in a pour over vessel without the fins. It seems like the grinds could easily get stuck underneath them.
I personally taste a significant boost in clarity from the SSP MP burr set compared to the Fellow Gen 2. The Gen 2 will have more body, slightly more bitterness on the finish, while the SSP are very clear with more of a tea like mouthfeel and sweet finish. Both are great, comes down to personal preference
@@LifestyleLab_ awesome - thank you for the quick reply! I actually have the SSP mps that I got right before they released Gen 2. Now that all these reviews have been popping up praising the Gen 2 Burrs .. I’ve just been thinking about the difference. I personally LOVE the SSPs - more clarity than I’ve ever experienced in a cup of coffee. But people are going crazy about the Gen 2s haha so it made me wonder if there’s a big difference especially considering the steep price difference. Appreciate it ! Also , are you also based out of Toronto ?
absolutely no reason to change it if you allready have the Ode with SSP's. The improvement is so little that its only interesting when you have nothing
Thank you for reviewing the Ode v2, I’ve been considering it for my pour overs, which i am currently using my niche zero for both espresso and pour over. I thought perhaps it would be a great addition. Suggestions?😊
I've havd my Fellow Ode Gen 2 now for a couple days, experimenting with different grinds, etc. But it seems to have a possible defect. More than half the time after I put, say, 6 tablespoons of beans in the hopper, set for around 7 on the dial, the grinding turns off before all the beans are ground, leaving perhaps 1/2 tablespoon of beans unrground, and I have to remember to check for that and run it again till they're all ground. One time they seemed to get stuck in the throat of the hopper, other times it just shuts off too quickly, while I can still hear it grinding. Is there an adjustment for this or do I need to return the unit?
For someone just drinking drip coffee in a Bonavita, is it worth gettting one of these or should I just keep using my capresso Infinity conical Burr grinder?
Oh wow, I did not expect that comparison between these and the SSP MP to be that close. Still thought SSP MP would be significantly better. Would you say the differences in clarity are subtle enough to not need to spend $100+ more?
I didn’t compare to the SSP MP? All I said was now there’s a good option so you don’t HAVE to upgrade if you don’t want to. The clarity jump on the MP is definitely significant, but maybe not right for everyone’s taste. The Gen 2 brew are more about balance than the ultimate clarity on the SSP
@@LifestyleLab_ The Kinu is great for espresso and doesn't take too long, but when I switch out the burr for my pour over burr (already a tedious process), it takes forever to finish grinding. Does the ZP6 take as long? Im feeling lazy haha, so might just go for the fellow. Would be nice to have an electric grinder for espresso too when I'm making multiple cups for guests
Grinding for pour over is quite quick on a hand grinder like the ZP6, maybe 10 seconds for a 15g dose But of course can’t beat the convenience of electric :)
Problem is, it’s tough to do both things very well. There will always be SOME sacrifice with all round grinders. Sticking to a brew focused grinder allows this to be very good at what it does for those who only want that grind range. To grind for espresso would add cost due to the stronger motor and components required, as well as require changes to burr geometry
@@LifestyleLab_ I understand. I have eureka mignon and i use it for V60 sometimes. I don’t get that nostalgic experience and that amazing coffee ground odor as much as I do with my comandante . I don’t know why but coffee smells better to me with that grinder. I don’t know how it is with fellow grinder. I never tried.
Hello, in your opinion, which one of these espresso machines has a higher coffee quality? im searching for best choice under 1000 $ gaggia classic pro Bezzera new hobby Breville Infuser BES840XL Breville Bambino Plus Calphalon BVCLECMP1 Temp iQ rancilio silvia
It depends what grinder you are going to pair with the machines without built in ones. Grinder quality has a far larger impact on the final espresso than the machine does.
The older version if knocked a couple times along the sides pretty much eliminates any static hold and improves greatly the ground coffee in the cup. So, my suggestion just buy the gen2 burrs and install to your original, no need to make a new grinder purchase.
I've signed up for texts and email to get a discount from Ode as they advertise but didn't receive any codes back from them. I won't order their product even if they give me 50% discount. They are deceiving, Not honest, plenty of other better grinders.
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Thank you
Great to hear Fellow listening to customer feedback!
Absoluutely, nothing makes me happier than a brand that listens
Sincere thanks for the review. We appreciate it!
Thanks for watching!
No wonder Amazon had the original at $200 on the October prime day. Clearing out stock for the v2
Wouldn’t you know I _just_ bought the original Ode. 😢😢😢
Return it 😎
@@HeliosEffect Not many countries outside US have generous store return policy.
@@maheshprabhu capitalism has benefits???
I almost did but been waiting for black Friday, glad I put it off.
When it was on sale (white only) in Canada, I thought about getting it for my mother. But I didn't because I would use it once a month, too. Elected to keep her with a hand grinder for now. Lol. Don't you know it... I want the new one, now!
Exciting to hear about the gen 2 burrs! Would have loved to see what other external changes they could have made as well to the design
But it’s so good looking already 😍
Hope that steeper hopper fits the Gen 1, and the part is available fairly soon.
That lack of static is super nice as well...
Not sure if this will be available as an aftermarket part. I don’t see why not 🤷🏻♂️
The static reduction is fantastic, every grinder should have active management like this
@@LifestyleLab_ yeah, I tried to search their site, they have the OG hopper out there, but the Gen2 isn't there yet - probably all going into the grinders themselves at this point.
Well, I got an 'official' response from Fellow through their support that the Gen 2 part wouldn't fit the Gen 1... So that's annoying.
I heard that the anti-static is achieved with an ionizer--I wonder if that oxidizes the coffee grinds somewhat, detracting from freshness.
@@fredbloggs6080 I highly doubt it would make a noticeable difference
Great video! I brew primarily aeropress and mokapot with an OXO burr grinder… would this be a noticeable upgrade? It looks amazing.
Yes, it would be a great upgrade from the OXO
@@LifestyleLab_ awesome ty for the response!
bought it from fellow and got it in the mail like... 1 1/2 days later. didn't pay any extra for shipping or anything. seriously fantastic grinder. 20g, 50g, or the 100g hopper max. all done in a couple seconds as uniform as is reasonable to expect.
Thanks so much for a clear review side by side! Could you check hopper cap and dial knob are identical/interchangeable?
I just upgraded my Gen 1 ode to the Gen 2 Burrs. I feel like I'm going to miss the anti static featues. I may move my Gen 1 to my desk at work, and get the Gen 2 for home.
ok 🙄🙄
I’ll be switching to the gen 2 catch cup (I assume they will sell them by themselves), as I dislike the lid on the old one. Having said that, I mostly use my Weber blind shaker with the Ode: it’s brilliant for pour over and works like it was made for the grinder.
I currently use a Baratza Encore for brewing in a Technivorm Moccamaster - would the Ode gen 2 be a significant/noticeable upgrade on the Encore?
I think it would be a noticeable difference, yes. The 64mm flat burrs will be superior for batch brew vs the 40mm conicals in your Encore
Wonder what you think of a manual Eureka (like the facile) which is close in price below 400, compared to this gen 2 Ode. Probably less clarity for filter coffee?
Not super familiar with what burrset is in that grinder, but yes, I imagine it’s more espresso oriented than this new ODE
I am a bit of a novice but wanted to know if putting in SSP burrs will improve the quality of coffee in Gen 2 as well? If yes in what way.
The SSP MP burrs will have noticeably better clarity over the stock Gen 2 burrs. If this is something you look for in coffee, then it may be worth the upgrade. If you generally prefer a more balanced cup, and slightly heavier body, then the Fellow burrs may actually be better for you :)
I have the older version gen 1 grinder. I upgraded the burrs about a month ago and I’m having issues where the grinder stalls out, quits before all of the 25 grams of coffee are ground. I was thinking about switching to the Opus thinking that it has a stronger motor. Does the Ode gen 2 have a stronger motor than the gen 1? I use a Aero Press for my coffee.
I’d get in contact with Fellow, that certainly shouldn’t be happening. Could be something binding with how the new burrs were installed
Wondering. Are the fins in the catch cup really necessary? I wouldn’t think it would be difficult to dump the grinds in a pour over vessel without the fins. It seems like the grinds could easily get stuck underneath them.
They’re surprisingly useful :) targeted at their narrowed Stagg drippers. Never really had an issue with stuck grinds, especially with the new model
The changes might seem subtle but they make a huge difference!
Is it worth upgrading from a Baratza Encore burr grinder? I am happy with it so far, but maybe I don't know what I'm missing??
For filter brews, it will be a significant step up in clarity going from the Baratza conicals to these 64mm flat burrs
Hey man,
Great video as usual! How does this compare to the SSP MPs in your opinion? What does the SSP MPs do better ?
Thanks !
I personally taste a significant boost in clarity from the SSP MP burr set compared to the Fellow Gen 2.
The Gen 2 will have more body, slightly more bitterness on the finish, while the SSP are very clear with more of a tea like mouthfeel and sweet finish.
Both are great, comes down to personal preference
@@LifestyleLab_ awesome - thank you for the quick reply! I actually have the SSP mps that I got right before they released Gen 2. Now that all these reviews have been popping up praising the Gen 2 Burrs .. I’ve just been thinking about the difference. I personally LOVE the SSPs - more clarity than I’ve ever experienced in a cup of coffee. But people are going crazy about the Gen 2s haha so it made me wonder if there’s a big difference especially considering the steep price difference.
Appreciate it ! Also , are you also based out of Toronto ?
There’s a lot of hype because they get very close to the SSP for half the price. But I do think the SSP are better.
Near Toronto yes :)
@@LifestyleLab_ makes sense - thank you for the clarification:)
Is it worth the upgrade from the Encore that I have been using for 4 years now. I am sure it is!
Small changes definitely make up for major quality of life improvements. But I think I’m content with my Ode+SSP MP as my daily driver so far 😊
I may swap my MPs over to this new chassis. That would be a killer combo
absolutely no reason to change it if you allready have the Ode with SSP's. The improvement is so little that its only interesting when you have nothing
Brew quality will be no different, it’s the static management I want
@@LifestyleLab_ yeah, tapping the lid and manually pushing the beans in don’t seem as elegant as Fellow probably intended.
Thank you for reviewing the Ode v2, I’ve been considering it for my pour overs, which i am currently using my niche zero for both espresso and pour over. I thought perhaps it would be a great addition. Suggestions?😊
The ODE gen 2 would be a big improvement over the Niche for pour overs
@@LifestyleLab_ what about espresso? Would it now be usable?
No, this has only ever been a brew grinder. The motors aren’t designed to brew for espresso
I've havd my Fellow Ode Gen 2 now for a couple days, experimenting with different grinds, etc. But it seems to have a possible defect. More than half the time after I put, say, 6 tablespoons of beans in the hopper, set for around 7 on the dial, the grinding turns off before all the beans are ground, leaving perhaps 1/2 tablespoon of beans unrground, and I have to remember to check for that and run it again till they're all ground. One time they seemed to get stuck in the throat of the hopper, other times it just shuts off too quickly, while I can still hear it grinding. Is there an adjustment for this or do I need to return the unit?
I'm purchasing an Breville Dual Boilder what is the good grinder under $500.
Fellow Opus, Baratza Encore ESP, Varia VS3 to name a few
For someone just drinking drip coffee in a Bonavita, is it worth gettting one of these or should I just keep using my capresso Infinity conical Burr grinder?
Absolutely still worth the upgrade. Grind quality is the biggest factor to final taste in the cup, regardless of brew method
could you compare it to Eureka Mignon filtro in terms of tasting and clarity
I’d go with the ODE. Better workflow, bigger likely better burrs with upgrade possibilities because they’re 64mm
Oh wow, I did not expect that comparison between these and the SSP MP to be that close. Still thought SSP MP would be significantly better. Would you say the differences in clarity are subtle enough to not need to spend $100+ more?
I didn’t compare to the SSP MP? All I said was now there’s a good option so you don’t HAVE to upgrade if you don’t want to.
The clarity jump on the MP is definitely significant, but maybe not right for everyone’s taste. The Gen 2 brew are more about balance than the ultimate clarity on the SSP
@@LifestyleLab_ gotcha :) my misunderstanding
what would buy as an alternative to the ode gen2? I am only interested to use it for filter coffee
Why do you need an alternative?
The ODE Gen 2 is my go to recommendation for a filter only grinder
I currently have a kinu m47 for espresso. Do you think this would be good to get for pour over and whatnot?
Yes, it’s a great pour over system. Or, if your into hand grinders, what about the 1ZPresso ZP6?
@@LifestyleLab_ The Kinu is great for espresso and doesn't take too long, but when I switch out the burr for my pour over burr (already a tedious process), it takes forever to finish grinding. Does the ZP6 take as long? Im feeling lazy haha, so might just go for the fellow. Would be nice to have an electric grinder for espresso too when I'm making multiple cups for guests
Grinding for pour over is quite quick on a hand grinder like the ZP6, maybe 10 seconds for a 15g dose
But of course can’t beat the convenience of electric :)
I'm glad to see the gen 2 burrs, but I'd love to see more gentoo penguins from Fellow
I’m on the fence, I grind for a chemex using a varia hand grinder …. Should I get a gen one or gen two?
If you’re buying new, go for the Gen 2
Catch cup lid still fits a little funky
I see only white is available currently on Amazon--which looks better, black or white?
Both look great!
Totally up to personal preference
@@LifestyleLab_ I ordered the white one from Amazon. I like it in white, at least since they don't have avocado. That's a joke.
Ou, green would be cool 😎
@@LifestyleLab_ How about this avocado green color? ruclips.net/video/rI0d5WZTzto/видео.html
Exaaaaactly
Are the augers the same size?
I would still would like to see espresso grinding option. Fieranzato all ground is still game changer. .
Problem is, it’s tough to do both things very well. There will always be SOME sacrifice with all round grinders. Sticking to a brew focused grinder allows this to be very good at what it does for those who only want that grind range. To grind for espresso would add cost due to the stronger motor and components required, as well as require changes to burr geometry
@@LifestyleLab_ I understand. I have eureka mignon and i use it for V60 sometimes. I don’t get that nostalgic experience and that amazing coffee ground odor as much as I do with my comandante . I don’t know why but coffee smells better to me with that grinder. I don’t know how it is with fellow grinder. I never tried.
It would be cool if they make an espresso version that looks identical so that we could have them side by side
A great espresso grinder is not a great filter grinder and vice versa.
i actually liked the beep 🥺
I see this a lot advertised for French press. Is this also good for espresso?
No, this grinder is not designed for espresso.
I hate having to unscrew the front plates to clean the burr.
Is it useful for espresso machines?
No, this is not designed to grind fine enough for espresso. It is a brew grinder :)
I appreciate your advice 🙂
I would add Gen2 logo to front.
Hello, in your opinion, which one of these espresso machines has a higher coffee quality? im searching for best choice under 1000 $
gaggia classic pro
Bezzera new hobby
Breville Infuser BES840XL
Breville Bambino Plus
Calphalon BVCLECMP1 Temp iQ
rancilio silvia
It depends what grinder you are going to pair with the machines without built in ones. Grinder quality has a far larger impact on the final espresso than the machine does.
Well, I will definitely get a good grinder.
With a good grinder, which model do you have in mind?
I would go for the Rancilio or Gaggia
Tried the ode, returned it.
The KitchenAid Burr grinder is far better than the ode.
I would have to disagree there… from both a grind quality and build quality perspective
Can you grind for espresso?
No, this is still only intended as a brew grinder
@@LifestyleLab_ thanks
Can it finally grind espresso?
No, this grinder was never designed for espresso.
Still not right for espresso?
Correct, still only designed to be a brew grinder :)
Get one fast since they gona sell out really quick !!!! Really sound like paid commercial💵
🤷🏻♂️ everyone is having stock issues due to supply chain, and this will be a popular gift. Sorry for going a little QVC on ya
But with all that fru fru talk does it grind to espresso??
No, because it's not an espresso grinder... never has been
The older version if knocked a couple times along the sides pretty much eliminates any static hold and improves greatly the ground coffee in the cup. So, my suggestion just buy the gen2 burrs and install to your original, no need to make a new grinder purchase.
dude, your links bring me right back to this vid... what is up with that?
Nice 👍 😊❤
I've signed up for texts and email to get a discount from Ode as they advertise but didn't receive any codes back from them. I won't order their product even if they give me 50% discount. They are deceiving, Not honest, plenty of other better grinders.
No way. I will stay with my Comandante ;-)
Both are great 🤷🏻♂️
Great video!!! I just released a Gen 2 grinder review too 😊🤘☕️
Love your logo sir
Cute
Your review is one hour late than Kyle’s
We released at the exact same time. Same as everyone else