TOP 5 CARNIVORE MYTHS DEBUNKED! - Doctor Reacts
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2024
- Are carnivore dieters DELUDING themselves? 😮🥩 Are they believing lies and ignoring important potential problems with eating nothing but animal foods? Should they be worried about cancer, heart disease, or nutrient deficiencies? ☠ Watch Dr. Westman react to a vegan influencer exposing what he claims are 5 myths about the carnivore diet. Are they actually myths or is there more to the story?
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Dr Westman does a great example of modeling how to disagree with someone... respectfully and with calm presence alongside a fair discussion of the research. Well done Dr. Westman.
agreed, this is one of Dr. Westman's best presentations, very comprehensive and with "just the facts ma'am"
Well I like Bark Kay. He tells it like it is .
MicSeems2BeAdisinfoAgentSomeSay...
As a former HCLF, plantbased eater, i used to listen to this 'man' who I can only now see as a childish bully. He hangs out in carnivore forums just to make fun of people who believe and live differently than he does. I'd have much more respect for him if he stuck to highlighting the benefits of his own lifestyle to inform his followers and let others live their own life the way they see fit. It's not like this is a game and there's a prize for winning over the most people. Also, after 10 years of eating a plant based diet, I'm vit D deficient, severely insulin resistant and I've wrecked my thyroid. I listened to the 'the fat you eat is the fat you wear!' mentality. (McDougall) We were also told the ONLY supplement we need is B12. Wrong. But go ahead Mike, live your own dream. I'll continue to research how to undo the damage to my body.
Isn't it amazing that they feel compelled to come to carnivore forums to bully and berate? Do carnivores do this? Honestly people need to grow up and leave each other alone.
The keto flu happens when you are switching to keto from carbs. I jave been keto 5+ years, no flu whatsoever. No electrolytes needed either. Mic's warning is like telling alcoholics that they'll have terrible withdrawal symptoms, so don't bother.
ha read your post this after just posting a comment which seems to hold a similar sentiment. "mike" reminds me of the self-righteous people who hang out in front of abortion clinics to harass and threaten people who are already in a difficult emotional place
@@iss8504 I go put my story of plant based to carnivore and all the health problems I fixed onto any vegan video that gets recommended to me.
But that's because I feel cheated of 2 years and quite a bit of health by the bad recommendations.
I can only agree with you. I couldn't watch the whole video. This guy is just bonkers, annoying to say the least. I admire Dr. Westman to have the time and patience to react to someone that deserves no time. According to Dr. Paul Mason, here is Australia, Belgium law rules that if parents place their kids on a vegan diet they can go to jail for up to 2 years. Should other countries follow that? Should we investigate?
The ongoing debate between meat eaters and plant-based eaters is quite absurd. Everyone should eat what they prefer and observe how it affects their well-being. I've followed the Carnivore diet for six months now, and I feel significantly better than I have in years. Having dealt with type 2 diabetes for 25 years, I can finally say it's completely under control for the first time. I've shed over 40 pounds, my long-standing high blood pressure has normalized, my mental clarity has improved dramatically, and I no longer suffer from joint pain. While Mr. Vegan, the RUclipsr promoting veganism, may choose his diet, he shouldn't claim that the Carnivore diet is detrimental, especially when my own body's response contradicts that. I've lived in this body for 66 years, and I trust its signals over any online influencer's opinions.
Has anyone else noticed that individuals advocating for veganism on RUclips tend to display more intensity and aggression in their discussions about meat-eaters? In contrast, those who consume meat often discuss veganism in a relaxed manner and with considerable respect.
Very true. Contrast Mic with the laid back style of Shawn Baker, it the calm and thoughtful approach of Anthony Chaffee.
Vegans are almost always Leftists. Leftists are unstable
Yes. Except for Bart K lol
@@supersonicsenses Add Dr. Ken Berry.
@@Jayc9582lol. That's an act he carefully cultivates.
*I had very high blood sugar I only managed to improve my health when I found a WONDERFUL treatment, if you want to know about it, I left the video in the comment reply*
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Antelopes will climb dangerous cliffs to get to salt. Mammals find and lick salt all time. LOL I am 5 years ketovore, last two of those years carnivore and added a bit of tomato sauce to a "carnivore" pizza and got gout. Lost over 150 pounds to normal BMI. Latest eye exam shows all problems found before from pre-diabetes gone. 70 years old and feeling better than I did at 40.
LOL, when I was a kid, and at the grocery store with my mother, I'd actually lick the salt lick blocks on the detergent aisle. (we lived in a farming community)
Biggest takeaway for me is cut out sugar and all those ultra processed foods.
I've been low carb for 12 years and ketovore for 2 years, and it's helped me fix myself. My blood markers, liver scan, and cac scan are all good to go. If God intended for us to eat fruits and vegetables year round, he would have made it available as such. Man made it a year tound supply. No vegan will ever convince me that vegan is how we should eat.
The sailors that got scurvy were living on beer and biscuits. The lime was added to their beer ration. They were also able to cure scurvy by simply adding meat to their diet. 56:02
A vegan taking about nutrition deficiency...lmao
From his looks and lisp I don't think he's 100 percent vegan. He's definitely getting some meat.
@@thebobser talking about the camera filter to hide the ugly portrait?
You may be able to be perfectly healthy on a vegan diet. Dr. Westman has pointed out that there are many healthy diets, and often a diet ideal for one person is not right for another person, even for non-health reasons like income level. He is a realist who looks for evidence and disagrees with the "One True Way" emotional, adamant, and personally aggrieved commentary like yours. He even notes that vegan ethical concerns may be valid for some people but in the end are subjective at 13:27
He does not say that Mike is wrong about his veganism, just that he is often incorrect in his statements regarding the family of ketogenic diets, likely including carnivore. Dr. Westman himself has stated several times in the past that there is limited evidence based medical support for carnivore, although there appears to be significant clinical and theory supporting it. He even mentions this at 16:12 where he discusses a scientific (not clinical) paper and notes that a controlled clinical trial has not occurred for carnivore.
My vegan friend has 3 stents, needed 40 year after he became vegan. He claims his heart disease occurred before veganism- in his 30s. Right.
My vegetarian grandmother died of a heart attack
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All Mic does (as he does in most of his videos) is prove arrogant people suffer from the Krueger Dunning Effect. I especially enjoy his use of Reddit to support his argument.
All I know is what I learned in Biology, Physiology, and ANTHROPOLOGY... and that is we evolved by eating meat, meat was all we had during the Ice Age, and we followed animals to survive... when I studied survival skills and was forced to practice what I learned, you will not survive eating plants. Veganism only works in modern society. Also, I worked on a farm, and all of these plants vegans eat require animals to die. Cleaning the combine looks like a crime scene.
"Cleaning the combine looks like a crime scene" made me kind of sad.
@@sonjawalkerreactionscommen3501 I know, but it is true. Vegans have no idea how many animals die to grow their food, or how many animal products are used. Death is involved in every aspect of what we eat. Other than the fact that vegan arguments are biologically flawed, now their moral argument is gone too.
@sonjawalkerreactionscommen3501 its true. alot of animals get killed with farming, all the way up the food chain.
@@atticcus7935 If you're trying to guilt trip me it won't work. I'm still going to eat cow.
people don't generally "attack" vegans. i care not what my neighbor chooses to eat. If my family will listen I will tell them all I Know about carnivore. Unlike a vegan, Im not on a religious crusade to stop others eating what I consider unhealthy foods.
Me either, David. People can eat the way they wish. I do not understand the mindset of the handful of Vegans who feel the need to debunk others’ way of living.
Why are vegans not coming after people that eat vegan macaroni and cheese? 😂 The fake cheese is all artificial flavoring and coloring. The macaroni are just highly processed carbohydrates.
They’re weak-thinkers and have been influenced by others with a that vegan agenda. (Cows bad/Pea protein good)
Wow -Mike really put the ‘SAL’ in Oxalates … thanks but I’m going to stick with Dr. Westman and his 20 years of clinical research! Thank you Dr. Westman!
I think he so badly wants to say “SALAD” 😂
One of the things I like about Dr Westman is that he doesn’t jump on any bandwagon. He will say, show me a study of 50 people for an extended period of time and I’ll look at the study. He keeps an open mind as to what is possible even though he doesn’t support methods until he sees research to support the idea. For me this is a critical thing. Thanks Doc.
Dr. Westman offers a considered and measured response in a considerate and measured style.
Mike, on the other hand, is flippant and condescending.
Dr. W for the win.
Maybe someone should point out to Mike that our bodies manufacture cholesterol - in reference to his comments about oxalates.
Sure your body makes oxylate kidney stones in reaction to the consumption of an excess of sugar.
Every time I watch a Mic the Vegan video the word 'contrived' comes to mind
Thank you, Dr. Westman! Your calm presentation and insistence on good science never leaves me "hyped up." ☮
LDL isn't bad. Our bodies make it. It's an important part of our immune system.
I’m 73 years old and my lymphatic glands are beginning to get clogged and swelling up and getting hard. I’ve eaten for 20 years and never lost a pound. In fact and gained weight until I hit 290. Then I got cancer and went down to 240 then I started playing around with keto and carnivore and I’ve lost another 10 pounds and my lens are shrinking which makes me so happy because they hurt constantly and they don’t hurt constantly. So yeah, I think there’s dumping at least for me.
The science against vitamin c. Really how many scurvy patients have in fluxed the hospitals in the last few years?
Chronic malnutrition is a big problem in the UK population. We have a full time worker in county hall just trying to address elderly malnutrition. I run a charity that actually "feeds up" people at risk. Vit C deficiency is a small cirner if the problem.
I think purines may be associated with gout, but red meat, even organ meats, have never triggered my gout. Shellfish may get it started, but shellfish live off of waste, and therefore I avoid it generally. I have controlled my gout with diet since about 5 months after diagnosis(2014). The medical system would've been much happier had I not figured out how and what to eat, and telling me that red meat would cause gout was a lie.When I stick to carnivore, it seems Im healthier than my other limited options
Great confirmation! Noticed the same.
And gout could be caused by at least five things. Oxalates are one cause.
@@hugoanderkivi I don't know about the causes other than dietary. Alcohol can be a common factor among many in your diet. Its the long term affect and abuse of certain types of food that lead to my problem in my estimation. That is the problem with the common allopathic treatment of dolling out allopurinoll, Uloric, or whatever new moneymaker thats on the market. How much healthier is it to change dietary behavior?
Thank you, Dr Westman. You listened to this jeering motormouth so I don't have to.
You are too nice Dr. Westman. Often you give people the benefit of the doubt. Glad you covered this guy’s vitriol rather than me. His smug attitude just rubs me up the wrong way. The karma bus may come his way when lack of nutrients starts affecting him. Not that I’d wish that on anyone. 👋🏻
Dr. Eric Westman - Adapt Your Life, I really enjoyed this video, so I hit the like button!
RDA for carbs is like 200-300g (45%-65% of diet). More ppl than ever are living a sedentary lifestyle.
For context, here's a list of carb heavy foods and what 300g of carbs looks like:
1. **White rice:** Roughly 6.7 cups of cooked white rice (45 grams of carbs per cup).
2. **Pasta:** Approximately 7.5 cups of cooked pasta (40 grams of carbs per cup).
3. **Potatoes:** Around 7.5 large baked potatoes (40 grams of carbs per 100 grams).
4. **Bananas:** Approximately 11 medium-sized bananas (27 grams of carbs each).
5. **Bagels:** Roughly 8 large plain bagels (around 37 grams of carbs per bagel).
6. **White bread:** About 20 slices of white bread (15 grams of carbs per slice).
7. **Raisins:** Approximately 3.75 cups of raisins (around 80 grams of carbs per cup).
8. **Cereal (flakes):** Around 4.5 cups of corn flakes cereal (25 grams of carbs per cup).
9. **Muffins:** Roughly 8 large blueberry muffins (around 35 grams of carbs per muffin).
10. **Soda (regular):** About 7 cans of regular soda (around 41 grams of carbs per 12-ounce can).
11. **Fruit juice (orange):** Approximately 5.8 cups of orange juice (around 26 grams of carbs per cup).
12. **Honey:** Around 17.6 tablespoons of honey (around 17 grams of carbs per tablespoon).
13. **Maple syrup:** Approximately 1.9 cups of maple syrup (around 159 grams of carbs per cup).
14. **Cookies:** Roughly 25 medium-sized chocolate chip cookies (around 12 grams of carbs per cookie).
15. **Cake:** About 5 large slices of cake (around 60 grams of carbs per slice).
16. **Ice cream (regular):** Approximately 10 cups of regular vanilla ice cream (around 30 grams of carbs per cup).
17. **Pizza (cheese):** Roughly 4 large slices of cheese pizza (around 36 grams of carbs per slice).
18. **Sweetened yogurt:** Around 10 cups of sweetened yogurt (around 30 grams of carbs per cup).
19. **Granola bars:** Approximately 20 granola bars (around 15 grams of carbs per bar).
20. **Fried rice:** Roughly 8 cups of fried rice (around 37 grams of carbs per cup).
This is what they are "recommending" for daily intake in our diets. No wonder there's an obesity epidemic.
They want us sick and weak and forever dependent on big pharma🙄
And 300g of carbs is what Paul Saladino says he is currently consuming 🙄
Are Kellogg's frosted mini wheats vegan?
@@WA4OSH I would assume they would be, give that their name suggests they are made from wheat and sugar.
@@ekondigg6751 It sure reminds me of the most popular Vegan drink besides coffee - Vegan bubble tea. It's creamy, sweet, and full of satisfying chewy boba. Boba is a chewy tapioca pearl made from cassava starch. The "cream" comes from coconut cream. This drink is essentially tea-flavored sugar and starch.
That was painful to watch. 95% sarcasm and 0% factually analysis. Also, most carnivores eat eggs with resolves most of the deficiencies he talks about assuming a beef/muscle only diet. Also, if you don’t go extreme (with any diet change), and slide into a new diet, none of the side effects should occur. People are so extreme these days and slide from 100% vegan to 100% carnivore and somehow don’t expect the body to need an adjustment period.
6:19 Myth # 1; meat has all the nutrients you need.
Starvation and even just malnutrition is treated with meat and not just any meat…the infamous red kind. 😆😆
I can’t think of a single instance where malnutrition is treated with avocado and plant protein. 🤷♀️
In Victorian times, ill people were given Beef Tea - beef and water processed in a closed jar in boiling water until all the nutrients extracted and only the broth consumed. Or the Chicken soup version. No one used potato soup.
Mike’s pinkish pale skin tone and wig are a telltale sign of great health…: 💀
This Mic is woefully wrong and misinformed on so many things, yet the platform of social media gives him a microphone to spew his message.
I can’t stand listening to this guy - this Mic, not Dr Westman. This ”Mic” is trying to make a name for himself, which in the end will not be flattering.
Unfortunately for the gullible, Mic the pasty Vegan, may affect people’s health detrimentally.
I am not carnivore but I do realise this would put him out of business, along with all food processors most farmers most dentists most supermarkets all big pharma and all fertiliser companies when did I come to this conclusion, decades ago when I did the Atkins diet and lost a lot of weight. I am seriously considering it now.
You are comparing apples and pears.
The trend seems to be they choose to blame the meat consumption rather than question if the carbohydrate intake as actually having a detrimental effect.
It’s lazy experimental studies to reach an outcome that validates their opinion.
Note carnivore influencers always seem to look far healthier in appearance such as skin tone than the majority of these medical influencers
Dr Westman always kindly speaks FACTS! ❤
Taking Mic seriously should be a meme at this point.
I watch all your videos. Great info. Thanks.
Keep doing what you do Dr Westman. Keeping it real 😊
Absolutely love your channel Dr Westman. Thank you so much for being the voice of reason ❤️
Thank you Dr Westman. Your professionalism and impartiality is refreshing in this age!
We definitely need to observe blood work of carnivore diet people. As an example, I tested my blood for vitamin C over a year ago out of curiosity. My results came back at less than
4:00 "..high blood pressure and low potassium, they kind of go hand in hand together.."
When I eat any veggies or grains my joints get inflamed and hurt. It also gives me headaches, bloating and gas.
Why does Mike care what other people eat?
Because he's very insecure
He uses the standard American dietary guidelines and Reddit as his main sources so yeah that tells you everything you need to know
Thanks Dr. Westman! 👍
Thank you Dr Westman, grateful you’re able to get through his drama filled video.
All of the nutrient (deficiencies) that Mic lists are nutrients that can be found in beef liver. Some of them are even found in excessive amounts in liver, which is why one should be careful when consuming organ meats regularly.
I know a lot of carnivores choose not to consume organ meats or follow a nose to tail principle of eating, but the option is there if vitamins ever become an issue on the carnivore diet. I'm sure Mic is aware of this, but he has videos that need to be made 😅
Yep, with my seemingly lifelong mantra of "if a little is good, a lot is better" I skyrocketed my uric acid levels by eating beef liver 3-4 times a week.
@@diana6842 Ouch! If you consume it that frequently, you risk getting iron overload and vitamin A toxicity as well. I don't think there's a common consensus on how often one should consume liver, but I imagine once or twice a week should be sufficient 😅
Eric, when is your next AMA that is early enough for the Western USA? I have questions!
LDL: My meat eating great grandmother and grand mother lived into their 100's without statins. My mother is 93 and had a high LDL and no familial hyper cholesterlemia. Maybe LDL does not cause heart attacks. Why do many people that live long have high LDL?
Really, he wants to believe what the government recommends in relation to food nutrition and micro nutrients when we have been lied to for decades that fat is bad. The world has been eating low fat for years and we continue to get fatter. I’ll be sticking to carnivore - Beef, butter and eggs, thanks.
Thanks, Dr Westman, for your eating advice. This man demonstrates how not to advise the public about diet, especially the folks who are insulin resistant and have the serious health problems that go with that. I appreciate you even more now.
Good video, but please no more with this guy.
Agree. This guy is angry and not doing all the homework.
The guberment also had a recommendation of 2 shots and 3 boostahs…. Ya I’ll go ahead and continue to ignore their recommendations
I have been mostly carnivore for about a year now. When I started I was taking potassium and magnesium supplements because of leg cramps. Eventually I was able to stop taking them. I find now that if I don't drink enough water that is when I may be more prone to the leg cramps. All I have to do is drink more. I do not take electrolytes and I do not use more salt than I did before starting carnivore.
Good analysis of another unconvincing Mike viewpoint. From my perspective, i am yet to experience of the things the anti-LCHF brigade keep warning me about. My only area of concern would be a slightly elevated LDL - which is why I tire of associative studies and other theorizing. Everything the ‘experts’ state seems to be based on as many untested assumptions not to mention logical flaws. Perhaps the biggest of these flaws being WHY would the body produce high levels of this protective molecule other than as protection against something else? So, lower the LDL means we are removing protection the body believes it needs (of course, science has always been smarter than nature lol).
The famous Familial hypercholesterolemia argument also ignores that many people with this condition do not develop early atherosclerosis which to me would point to high LDL being only one aspect of their condition - perhaps we have just yet to uncover the others and it is one of these that triggers atherosclerosis .
Ho hum
Dr David Diamond explains why only a small percentage of those with FH develop atherosclerosis ruclips.net/video/dOzgrhG0xKI/видео.htmlsi=e_C9o8476RYEFFsB. Spoiler, it's not the LDL 😊
Isn't keto the most studied diet ever? Keto is essentially carnivore with a side of salad. It's pretty close.
So just few thoughts;
1. there is a medical text from the 1700s where they specify the treatment for diabetes is eating only meat (mammalian) and dairy. So to say there aren’t’t any studies on this (which is also incorrect), seems hugely off-base since the awareness of no-carb impacts on blood sugar is centuries old. This cannot be solely anecdotal.
2. for those of us that eat dairy, I have a hard time buying we’d be calcium deficient. Also, aren’t the “paddles” in muscle fibres, which are used for muscle contraction, dependent on calcium ions? (It’s been years since I took human biology, please feel free to correct me if I’m off base).
3. can someone please point me in the direction of a dietary source of vitamin D (not including fortified sources)?
4. He speaks of brain fog and memory issues on carnivore; I have found just the opposite, I haven’t been this clear headed in 25 years. This was the first benefit I experienced in cutting out all carbs. Also, vegans always seem a dry and defensive.
5. electrolytes - most carnivores seem to need less and less supplementation the longer they are carb-free. But that’s just an anecdotal observation I’ve made. Also, no processed food, equals less sodium; it is understandable an accommodation period could be needed.
6. personal statement: RA related inflammation is down, my hair is significantly thicker, gym performance and endurance has significantly improved, and the first time ever I have not have GI issues.
7. this one is just bitchy on my part, but anyone else having a hard time listening to someone who sounds like they haven’t made it all the way through puberty yet7
Thanks for talking about blood levels vs cellular function, I think this is my most important takeaway
I think we may have witnessed the Dark side of RUclips. Mention problems with the O and video disappears.
I followed a keto diet for several years and only ate allowed carbs from vegetables and I still had high blood pressure.
4:00 "..high blood pressure and low potassium, they kind of go hand in hand together.." Maybe you should start taking electrolytes.
@@Susan.Lewis. good point. My understanding is that a couple of the things that can cause high blood pressure are too many carbs, causing the body to retain sodium, and too little electrolytes other than sodium. The kidneys are good at keeping electrolyte levels in the right place if there’s no shortage of some particular electrolyte.
If it took you more than a couple years, and you still couldn’t get your high blood pressure under control, here are some other things to investigate:
1. If you might have untreated sleep apnea, consult a pulmonologist or sleep doctor.
2. Try using breathing techniques to increase nose breathing, and to promote relaxation.
3. Try to get enough sun exposure, especially early and late in the day. Besides helping the skin produce, vitamin D3, sun exposure at certain times of the day can increase nitric oxide, which can help blood vessels.
If anyone is taking blood pressure medications, they need to inform their doctor before undertaking diet and lifestyle changes that may lower blood pressure.
I had gum bleeding until I switched to carnivore….
I’m grateful for Dr Westman responding to the video by Mic. Unfortunately those in the church of vegan won’t bother to look any further. I’m a month into carnivore with a couple of slips for curry! Still low carb, anyway I’ve tried to not fall deep into the hole but to keep an eye on other options, I haven’t found a better alternative.
Wonder what came first Veganism or the Dunning Krueger Effect
A vegan I knew told me their doctor immediately tested for iron deficiency and was suprised to find no deficiency. Our lives are busy and it CAN be difficult to do it properly. cheers
Mic is a fool, has proved is many times. No need to further watch
Please have more research on carnivore diet.
Dr. Westman👍👍
Thanks!
I can't take the way he says oxalate 😅
It’s funny how irritated they get! He’s annoying 😂
I’ve had migraines (once or twice a week) and kidney stones (at least once a year) for years and wasn’t vegan nor carnivore. Once I stopped carbs and sugars my migraines disappeared and I haven’t had a kidney stone attack in almost two years. The nodules on my adrenal gland are gone, and so is the sludge in my gallbladder.
Never got any of the keto flu, fatigue, headaches or any of that. This not a one size fits all.
If you pass out you’re not doing it right, is that simple. You’re not eating enough.
Can you please comment on Dr William Li videos favoring a plant based diet. Thank you!
Hey Mike, why is your hair and beard a different color?
I mentioned this on one of his videos and on the next one he shaved it off, it's very bazaar 😂
A vegan diet does not require any health food. A junk food diet is also a vegan diet. A carnivore diet is much more specific and doesn't include any junk food. 53:52
I also find myself eating foods I normally wouldn't when I wear a cgm to test how my blood sugar will react. It's interesting information to know
That vegan guy looks very unhealthy.
I was just that I have a problem with my pancreas. One thing said to eat more carbs, cereals, crackers, no red meat, low fat meats. No fasting, eating small meals all day. Now t heard about a study that is looking at low carb diet for pancreas issues. I was on Carnivore and now back on Keto. Will be seeing my PCP THIS WEEK to schedule MRI.
. I ate black licorice in nursing school. My BP went way up. I’ve never eaten it since then.
It's funny my family will listen to everyone but me and I have lost 48 wounds. Very slow yes. But still I did it. Thank you for your videos.
Wether or not you agree or disagree with Dr. Westman’s dietary recommendations you have to admit he has a very fair, balanced, and scientific outlook on the world of nutrition
I've personally thought that "oxalate dumping" was BS or misunderstood; however, maybe it's something. But Mic going on and on about it, with "you're still detoxing" (even after years) being the most pervasive myth of the plant-based diet, seems like pure projection.
We know what Diet Mick is following. Vegans have this strange urge to always let you know they are Vegans.
Just received an email from Dr. Dinicolotinio about the need for a sodium/potassium bicarbonate tab (which he provides links to) before a meat-based meal. Interesting how one’s advice leads to a product link.
I think it depends on the person. My heart palpitations disappeared, my BP went down. My arthritis in my hands has almost disappeared. I do have constipation. I suspect it has something to do with my gallbladder and pancreas.
Mic is most annoying can't listen anymore
I really would like a commentary about the diarrhea part of the myth video. I'm actually on carnivore for about 2 months, lost about 29 pounds, but I'm constantly alternating between diarrhea or having stools so hard it actually hurts to expel. what could be the cause of this? too much/little fat? what doctor should I look about this?
I went through that, it’s a possible blockage but if you get the fat content right it clears. The blockage causes a build up and then your body causes diarrhea. However if you can work out how to get the most fat in without diarrhea it clears. The fat keeps your stools smooth and easy. But until your bile builds up you might get a quick movement
@@Damcarnivore it's really hard to understand this, since ever since i've started doing the diet, i've gone to the bathroom from 1/day to 3~5 days to finally go. and it keeps alternating. sometimes its basically water (this is more common), and i had 2 times where it's so hard it feels like i'm not going to be able to expel. I really have no one to ask for this, since all they say to me is "you need to eat fiber" and nothing else.
@@NeverWinterguild I think the only difference you and I had was I didn’t have painful bowel movements. Look at what you are eating and drinking. Record how much and what you will see a pattern and don’t forget coffee can also influence this.
Ox sal late?
Quoting Nutrition Made Simple is a BIG red flag
Those recommendations are making kids overweight. Unless they are very active
Lions aren't transitioning from a high carb diet. I was under the impression some need to supplement electrolytes in the beginning but eventually your body will adapt and you won't need them anymore
The whole mineral supplementation process is transitional. I pass out on any diet if I don’t supplement sodium. I’m just wired that way. My LDL is high and I am on long term electrolyte replacement medically on a vegan diet (2 years). I’m transitioning to keto beginning next week.
It’s a well known fact that early explorations of the Arctic and Antarctica used seal and penguin meat to upend instances of scurvy. Read Julian Sancton’s book, Madness at the End of the Earth, not just for details like that, but because it’s a great book.
Oxalate dumping is a real thing but I do tend to agree that it has become the "malady du jour" with any and all problems being ascribed to it when it is really quite rare.
I also think that, while electrolyte supplementation can be helpful as you transition into any low carb way of eating, it is not needed after that unless you are doing some extended fasting or some super sweaty exercise (like marathons in Arizona in the summertime). I think there are a lot of carnivore "influencers" being sponsored by companies such as LMNT and that this comes dangerously close to the selling out we decry when it is BigFood/Pharma influencing nutritional standards.
Other than that, Mickey is a nutrient deprived nitwit who doesn't even know how to pronounce "oxalate". Scoffing=/=evidence. Also Reddit comments are not scientific evidence. Often when someone comes into a thread complaining of how horrible carnivore is and they are questioned closely, it turns out that that they tried it for a week, never got out of the "keto-flu" stage and then get all kinds of attention and approbation from people like Mickey who take their highly edited story as something significant.
In nature there is sodium in almost everything, including most drinking water. The same can be said for potassium and magnesium which are commonly found in any water you might drink. It is well known that animals, including lions will travel long distances to find salt licks, rocks, mud, water, or other sources high in sodium. Such places are neutral and carnivores do not hunt there as it is essential for life. If you believe, as I do that carbohydrates are an addictive substance then the comparison between symptoms of starting a low carb diet and the symptoms of going cold turkey from heroine are pretty much the same.
I eat🐄 beef liver and 🐟 wild salmon for the vitamin content.
It's kind of silly to criticize the carnivore diet for not having enough vitamins and minerals when it has ten times more than a plant based diet. 10:29
If you compare the water a lion drinks with the water most humans drink, you will find a lot of minerals in the lion's water as compared to ours.
Someone should tell him about this study about the inuit (eskimo) people who basically eat only meats and fat and they're healthy
Wow ! This guy is obsessed with carnivores . He’s so aggressive, maybe he’s a closet steak eater but has to put on this act for clicks . Dr Westman just blows him away in a calm respectful manner with research and commonsense. I know who I trust with my health. Thank you Dr Westman ❤
James Blunt, "I just lived on mince, some chicken, maybe with some mayonnaise, and it took me about six to eight weeks to get very, very unhealthy and see a doctor, who said 'I think you've got the symptoms of scurvy,'" he continued. "He said 'you're really lacking in vitamin C,' so then I just took it upon myself to drink a liter of orange juice every night, and then I immediately developed acid reflux. So as you can see, yeah, food is not necessarily my forte." I don't think the doctor's comment even counts as a diagnosis. It is accepted that survey takes 2 to 3 months to develop.
29:30 so no potassium and magnesium supplement needed on carnivore?
Supplement companies would love for us to think that we need supplements. Really what you need to do is try a diet for a few months and then get tested by your doctor and see if you actually need to supplement. However if you feel like crap ("keto flu" symptoms) then that's a good sign you need some electrolytes.
also called "mineral salt"
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Electrolytes really are only need when you're first adapting to keto/carnivore. I don't take it every day. Unless you're an athlete or doing big workouts, you shouldn't need it (just salt your food to taste and make sure you're getting enough magnesium). I've been keto for years.
We should assemble a body of independent health care professionals and evaluate Dr Westrman's patients and Mic's patients and see who is more effective at creating metabolic healthy people. Oh wait....