While it’s not personally Coutinho’s fault, his transfer was the main trigger that made everything accelerate downhill even further. Barca would spend 27% of their total debt on one player who they would waste, quickly loan out, then eliminate them in their worst loss ever, causing more frustration and unwise spending. (We all know Barca’s poor management decisions are the real reason)
Thank you for the reply I agree with you that it is bad money management and a mix of other stuff. It’s good to see xavi giving all the young men opportunities since me left as there are some great players coming up from la masia! Keep up the good work raymar love your vids on both channels @raymarfootball
No, it's the other way around. Barcelona ruined Coutinho. If you buy a player of that caliber, you need to play the team around him or at least let him to play with the style he was familiar with. If you don't even have the right to take a shot, you could not score. Unfortunately for Coutinho, there was only one focus in Barca at that time, and that was Messi. Barca didn't build a strategy that gave Coutinho space to shine. He was only used as an ordinary player to man his post, and that was not his advantage. To some extent today's Barca is still the same. They don't know how to build a team letting everyone shine. Rather they are still playing a football that is fifteen years old.
So you decided to make a video on how coutinho was one of the main factors for barcas downfall but state in the comments that it was actually barcas management. Reaction bait much?
He was never the problem, like I said they didn’t use him properly and he had injury issues, but his signing definitely was a trigger than accelerated Barca’s problems. It didn’t help that he played at his absolute prime vs Barca in the UCL 😂
Agree. Barca's greatness came form their academy. When they decided to switch their model to a la Madrid model that when things started to do south for them.
@@Carlos.PerlaRE They changed their policy and went for shortcuts cause of Jersey sponsor money which they never had from start to 2012. Back then they had to develop talents to compete against Madrid's Bank account. They tried to beat Madrid with Madrid's own game and just felt miserably short
@@swordofkhaine8464tapping up😂that's why we over paid at the time for him I remember people criticize 75m for a good defender it's on sky sports I sometimes look at the video to laugh
Another butterfly effect that this caused was liverpool cashing in to sign van dijk and alisson from the fee of coutinho making liverpool more competitive and complete which eventually led them to the elusive premier league and the champions league
Yea it’s not that simple, coutinho didn’t fail at barca because he lost his form, he failed because he didn’t have a place in Barcelona, it destined to fail from the start, one of the dumbest signings ever, I never wanted him at barca, not because he want good I actually though he was ridiculously good world class player, but he’s an attacking midfielder, barca doesn’t play with traditional attacking midfielders, we play with creative and high press midfielders, coutinho could never fulfill that role, nor could we play him as attacking midfielder, there was a certain someone called Messi on that team Messi was a free roaming attacking midfielder/winger/forward, but most of the time he was in attacking midfielder zone, so where was coutinho supposed to play ? Not as CM not as Left winger, he was never a winger not a true winger like the ones barca needs, there was never a place for him at barca, bartomeu signed him because 1 he’s dumb and 2 he knew this signing would create a lot of hype
That's why I always say that there's no more difficult club to play for than FC Barcelona. The greatest sport club of the World. 500 millions supportes world wide. Not even United, Madrid or any other club has such a huge number of supporters. Something which is still strange to me, following the club since late 70s when I was a kid.
@@OsoMarcol Pepsi ruined barca cuz they only focused on making money using their golden boy. The team was built around him even they paid referees 😂 club football is business and barca was bad at it.
This was a trigger event for sure. But the seeds on the collapse were sown with the wages Barcelona gave to players that were unsustainable on the long term. Id argue also giving Messi an albatross of a contract with a new extention each season after 2015 was a contributing factor. After that the inability to transition from an aging core of fantastic players just deepend the problem.
Saying Couthinio is responsible for Barcelona's downfall is probably the stupeidest thing I have ever heard. It is not his fault that the management was sepnding money recklessly and with no real idea in mind.
At EPL having 20 goals in a season is God level... While at La Liga, Messi and CR7 were pumping in 40 goals regularly. Someone worth 150 mil giving them 18 goals is just not appealing at all..😅
@@goalsdraw8897Coutinho mostly played on the left wing at Liverpool. There were dicusions while he was at the club about making him a midfielder and hoping his playmaking abilities would move with him. I remember of few games towards the end of his Liverpool tenure where did play as a CM behind the Salah, Mane, and Firmino front three and the results were promising. Despite that it was absolute madness for Barca to go after someone had just begun playing games as a midfielder and spend 150 mill as if he was a finished product.
That's their fault for paying the fee and expecting Messi and Ronaldo numbers. Nothing to do with the league. After all, Ronaldo came from that same league where you say 20 goals is considered 'God level'...
Prob u dumbest video ever. Coutinho was not barcas downfall, literally no Barca fan walks around thinking if only we didn’t get Coutinho we wouldn’t be over 1B£ in debt. 🤦
well i would say the reason is Lionel Messi....before abusing me and my family read what im tryna say barca used to play like a team up until 16/17...team didnt play FOR lionel Messi...yes team might be built around messi but team didnt play for him....everyone played their game helped the team....after the departure of neymar and after Iniesta started declining.. things massively changed...whoever watched 17/18 season knew coutinho played extremely well... almost justified his price tag.... he played in his natural position.... but after that everything changed... team started to play for Messi messy played as rw,cm,cam,rm in the team and the respective players in those positions sacrificed their positions for him as they have to... didn't play their game... pass to Messi... that's it...messsi isn't the one to be blamed... managers were utterly clueless and incapable of managing a club like Barca... they didn't have their ideas and simply relied on Messi to carry them giving him all the positional freedom he wants at the cost of others.... any football team that solely plays FOR one player is a recipe for disaster...u can build rhe teaM around a player like Madrid did with Ronaldo... that's why they are still winning... Barca without anything just crumbled cuz no players have the habit of holding responsibility
Guys,bro is just saying BARCA BECAME WAY TOO DEPENDENT ON MESSI,ITS not a hate comment, Pretty solid oberservation,I still don't think Barca are gonna beat RM,they are overworking and are over dependent on the lamasian wonder kids,
That Neymar signing fee changed football, it was his transfer that led Barcelona to sign Coutinho for an absurd amount which then led to Liverpool buying all there current star players
It was crazy PC's fall and how poorly he was mismanaged... As a Madrid Fan I especially relished the 8-2 annihilation where he had a brace against his parent tesm lmao... Like how did barca loan him without a clause to not play against them in the UCL... Its just crazy because there were a few years in a row where PC was a top attacking midfielder ... But we all make our blunders and mismanagements... Madrid bringing in Hazard and the mismanagement of James and Isco come to mind
You can't talk about Barca financial problems without mentioning the ridiculous contracts Messi got and was asking year after year. He got 9 renewals in total since his debut. That's a lot.
Yeah? What about Barcelona profiting 4x by using Messi's name, selling his jerseys or from his sponsors?. The only man who kept Barcelona relevant after 2017 was Messi. Have some shame and respect the man.
You are being sensitive just because he criticizes your favourite player, messi is a human and is not perfect, he profited off barcelona too. Okay he's a goat, but he also took unhealthy amount of money from his club.@@protik_d Nobody's perfect bro stop worshipping someone that doesn't even know you exist and grow up.
It might sound crazy, but Coutinho's move to Barcelona really changed football as we know it today. If he never went there, we might see Messi still in Barca, Mbappe in Madrid, and even Haaland in Bayern. But what other possibilities could have happened if he stayed in Liverpool? 🤔
Very harsh to say that coutinho’s move to Barcelona ruined not just him but the whole club (Barcelona) maybe there over spending and going into death and un able to pay messi’s wages that ruined them so it’s pathetic of you to say that he coutinho ruined the club
I disagree here, if u keenly analyse you'll understand that the day Xavi left Barcelona FC the day it started its downward spiral. Pep's influence on Barcelona was a hangover (after he left) that only Xavi managed. Barcelona FC became vulnerable after they lost possession during Non-Spanish European clubs & succumbed to counters & fast paced attacks. Rakitic was more skilled than Xavi but he couldn't set tempo of the game (Iniesta without Xavi was useless) For me Pep Guardiola rather built Barcelona FC wrt Xavi as pivot & game's tactics (though people think it's Messi), Pep Guardiola himself misjudged this fact to think it was Messi. Thus after Xavi left Barcelona FC appeared clueless the very next game (2016 Barcelona was strongest team way stronger than Real Madrid yet u could see them being fully vulnerable that PSG made them overwork & Roma kick them out later)
@@kothicamedarth2680 so you do agree with me then. that’s all I said was blaming coutinho for the whole downfall of the club is ridiculous but you said you disagree and gave a lot of examples of why the club has had its downfalls so you yourself are contradicting yourself
@@robertbyrnee4147 Obviously I hold Countinho for accelerating the downfall but he's not the reason. FC Barcelona didn't analyse the game Xavi played & tried to fit others into his shoes.
The fact that Lewandowski is a pure striker that *NEEDS* Service, and Barca Midfield just keep dribbling for no reason seems insane to me Bro got more service by Thomas muller than entire Barca combined that's crazy
Also the fact that Barca was not going to sign Messi in 2023-24 transfer window too and all for free transfer and less than 30M salary (only about 13M net salary), at least for 1 season is utterly ridiculous Not only it would provide significant help for Barca's financial crisis recovery but also help Lewy at doing his job too
The truth is that he didn't, he was just used as a scapegoat because Barca failed and failed again. The truth is that the glue of Barca's golden era was Xavi/Iniesta, when Xavi left it was over, Messi didnt have the charisma to hold the team together and the repeated failed transfers didnt help.
Kind of clickbait in the title sorry, but I’m just saying overall his signing was the butterfly effect trigger. However I did go on to justify how it wasnt his fault but bad decision making, injury, and removing his role and touches that lead to him not being at his best. But it didn’t help that he played beastly when he handed them their worst defeat in UCL history 😂
Totally cluless if you believe that messi didnt hold the team.He is the only reason they won the league cdr and reached the later stages of the ucl.Our attack was good only because of messi but there was no defense.2018 and 2019 were probably Messi's best years in terms of pure footballing ability he could literally do everything in midfield and attack
James' transfer fee was amortized over 6 years so his cost to Real's finances was meaningless compared to how much Coutinho was a drag on Barcelona's finances. Hazard is probably the closest equivalent Real had.
>Be born in Brazil >Be too good at football >Get a bunch of experience in brazillian's tournaments >Get signed to an European Club >Be an absolute menace on the field for a few months >Get signed to an even bigger european club >Get injured >Stop training as much >Do too much partying >Fall off and disappoint everyone The Brazillian Star Cycle
Liverpool won't be the strong team that used to be without this controversial transfer. They used a payload of money from Coutinho for VVD, Alisson, and Fabinho; all 3 being the key players for Liverpool that won the Champions League in 2018/19 and Premier League in 2019/20. They also caused a final straw of Barcelona's decline with the infamous Anfield game on the 2nd leg semifinal of 2018/19, winning 4-0 after being 0-3 down at Camp Nou.
I'm a catalan culé so I can speak from the general feelings of those days. When PSG "robbed" us Neymar, we went crazy looking for substitutes, that when looking in hindsight, we didn't really need. They tried to appease the fans by buying dembelé and coutinho, for actually more money combined than the transfer of Neymar. That's one of the poor managenement decisions, but there are more. Almost all players were receiving an exagerated salary and of course they didn't want to move. The "success" of player's contracts renovation, always presented grandiously, was in the long term a big failure. Remember Umtiti, for example... RMFC is more intelligent in doing short contracts with their players. Truly a loss for us, we hope to one day, clean up our debt, finish our new stadium, and win the UCL once again. What we will never forgive is the loss of our biggest star, Messi, in the middle of the covid pandemia. Not even one act of farewell. He was my only icon and I was broken.
@@StickyBarcelona thats even more ancient, he left because he cant get a starting position in the team back in 2012/2013. if we know neymar gonna leave there really no reason to sell pedro, he was always a good sub. and at one point he was a good starter in 2011. with so many injury we can keep the man. that man show up on big matches, and know how to shoot. unlike all the trash we bought for 350 + millions. they dont do shit on big matches. thiago, fabregas and sanchez they left for chasing dream for a better career instead being on the bench. but we shouldn't let pedro go. that was the biggest mistake barcelona made.
Poor Coutinho :( He was honestly very solid in his first season with Barcelona, but they just never had the right coaching to utilize him properly. In reality, he is merely the result of the worst management in football history done by Bartomeu.
COUTINHO WAS INCREDIBLE ONE OF THE MOST UNDERRATED PLAYERS OF THIS GEN IF YOU WANNA BLAME ANYONE BLAME BARCELONAS PRESIDENT AT THE TIME AND KOEMAN FOR GETTING RID OF SUAREZ
after neymar left, messi and suarez with some other players stepped up and provided some soul to the club, but after suarez left, it just messi, literally no other player was stepping up and messi by far carried the club, but when he left, he neither had a replacement nor a player who could atleast be a leader, barcelona tried to flex that they had so much money by buying so many expensive players instead of focusing on their youth academy, they tried to copy madrid. They learnt how to spend money from madrid, but they never learnt where to spend it from them
Saying Messi destroyed team.Messi plays well when team around him and in late 10s his pressing was too weak. Team has to do both additional role...To cover space when Messi drop deep ,also the extra pressing. They bought players that it's difficult to play with Leo Messi Because of thier style. Griezi is a fantastic player... similar style ..weaker in attack,stronger in defence when compared to Messi.
I don’t blame Coutinho but I do blame Bartoumeu. His re-election in 2015 was our downfall. So one could Lucho was responsible for the downfall. Luis Suarez.
Isco was an important part of our UCL three-peat, and he was a special player. He did his part. Even if things didn't go well in the end, he's still loved and appreciated by the fans. You can use Hazard for the comparison, he was an utter waste and ungrateful player, but not our Isco.
Not his problem that Barcelona couldn’t utilize him correctly. Poor management and terrible coaching as well as tactics are what messed up Barcelona, not Coutinho. This is what a salary cap as well as doing away with transfer fees needs to happen. Clubs should be required to operate in the black, not in a perpetual state of debt.
In a world where messi was still in barca real bought mbappe and haaland upgraded to bayern..man imagine if in that world messi didnt win the world cup..
it was so obvious it was never going to work, everyone but barca and coutinho saw it. He had complete freedom at Liverpool, and their fast rapid style suited him so much.
This one transfer led to Liverpool winning the premier league and Champions league. That amount of money made sure they could buy the players that would be the most iconic for the club
As a Barca fan, I will say I don’t have issues with him. The main issue is the ones above the manager, above the team that are ruining this once great club
The real trigger event is neymar, Countinho coming was bartomeus fault but bartomeu making desperate decisions was because neymar left at his prime for money and out of nowhere leaving barca desperate o making signings, after that they signed dembele who was in the hospital for 5 years basically
I keep thinking about Coutinho these past few days and I remember the epic TV commercial in the World Cup of 2014 and he was in it but not in the 23 man squad. How unfortunate!
Not a true football fan . He never was a cocky betraying all-day-partying type of player . Family man professional and loved by the fans , sick of you getting happy while one of the greatest brazilian talents of all time never saw its true potential
Yeah idc i will never stop defending coutinho . Bro was the absolute elite of the premier League just before he signed for barca and he continued to produce numbers up until 18/19 season . The "karma" of Liverpool , the memes and barca fans scapegoating him did unfair to one of the most talented players ever . I used to really like Barca but not anymore after what they did to him . They were the ones who destroyed his career not the opposite.
Coutinho should have stayed at Liverpool. Liverpool fans loved him I believe when he was there. It’s so sad to see such a player who was once one of the best in Liverpool career tragically end the way his did.
barcelona signed 2 players (griezmann and coutinho ) who naturally played on messi's position , they were destined to flop it was a management fault not a player fault
Simply put... Barcelona just failed to transition/regenerate. The players they brought in (Coutinho, Dembele, Griezman, etc) were bought for high transfers but didn't work out for whatever reason.
The reason is they played with millions and had brain of 5 year old. Griezman is best when he is centre of team. Coutinho role with Leo is difficult because they does some similar role when Messi dropped deep. So that's putting these players out of thier strength role and giving them supporting role to Messi. And mentally too weak when team go down. Xavi was the guy who did it from 09 and Messi had little pressure. When Xavi goes the power of MSN was thier to hold them. And Suarez prime ended Neymar left slowly Barca bece weak. Somehow they did well in league until 19 because Messi can do well in small games his magic.
They started Downfall in 2017 while it started Kamikaze at 4-0 on Anfield Lost Hopes of Treble when lost UCL that night, Copa del Rey final few days after and never reached Semis since Lost Messi 2 yrs later and went to Europa twice. Now towards 0 Trophy season again
@@Vipul6190 there’s nothing to cry about. Madrid has 14 ucls, still has more la liga titles and is still one of the top 3 teams in Europe. Barca isn’t even a top 3 team in la liga rn 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Imagine knowing that your transfer/time at a club would become a major factor in its downfall. That’s an exaggeration ofc, but I wouldn’t know how to sleep at night being in that situation.
As a Real Madrid fan I was so gutted when Coutinho transferred to Barca. He was my favorite player when he was at Liverpool. Him being a reason why Barcelona has fallen actually makes me a little content 😂
Coutinho did not start out badly at FC Barcelona, the villian Valverde benched him and destroyed his confidence. He never fully recovered after that season.
I support Borussia Dortmund. When Barcelona wanted Dembele and Dembele started skipping training, I've talk Barca fans: you don't need a player like him, he is disloyal and lazy. They've said: Dembele is not showing disloyalty, he is showing his love for Barca. Same with Coutinho, Malcolm and more. Barcelona fans were too optimistic. The leadership of the club is of course the same. This is the risk of having a club run by fans. (Not that in Germany clubs are run differently.) As for Coutinho, remember where he started - in Inter. He is only 31, and feels so long ago.
can't blame Coutinho nor Neymar nor Dembele it was Bartomeu chucking such price tags on them putting overwhelming pressure on them. + he didn't play his natural position often chucked at LW with is his pace was pretty useless. Just like Griezmann they were forced to play at different positions due to Messi being the centre and main creator of Barcelona team. So to this day i don't get why he was bought for?? for replacing Neymar or Iniesta?? Barca board panicked asf buy random world class players thinking i would spark another MSN.
I remember a Liverpool fan live stream where they were looking at stats and it was obvious that with coutinho on the starting 11 they played worst than without him.I didnt believe it but it looks like they were right
I'm pretty sure those are games with Salah on the right, Firmino through the middle but with Mane playing on the left wing, which was Continho's usual spot. In attempt to get Liverpool's four best offensive players on the field at the same time Coutinho became part of a mid-field three. Things didn't click immediately and there certainly were some tough passages. You could see after a few games that things were getting figured out by the players and coaches and that having all of Liverpool's Fab Four playing together made them them a *very* dangerous offense. The end of that experiment came when Barca come calling and gave Liverpool 150 mill with the apparent belief that Cotinhuo would be a world class midfielder in their squad.
Klopp saw what happened to Götze, Hummels (by that time), Sahin, Mkhitarian and other Dortmund players, so he was spot on: go somewhere else and you will be just another player, stay here and you will build a legacy.
Coutinho and Griezmann, a double whammy of signings from which Barcelona couldn't recover. Tempting to add Dembelé as well to the list. Anyhow, with the exception of 2004-2016 Barcelona has always been a spectacularly mismanaged club with incomprehensible transfer policy. It was the case in the early 00s as well with Rochemback, Geovanni and more until they needed Rijkaard and Ronaldinho to rescue them from becoming meaningless.
They didn’t know how to use Coutinho, proof is when they sent him to Bayern he actually played solid, not as Liverpool days but still, if anything, Barça kinda of ruined Coutinho
I believe that the headline is to attract public but its awful. Coutinho had NOTHING to do with Barcas fall. Barca and the management did. They paid that much for him, they missused him…
When I first saw the image of the video on youtube, I wanted to agree with you in some way, only that I thought it was about Messi, but I was somehow disappointed when I saw that everything was about Coutinho. First of all , in all football history, there is no bigger reason for a club to decline then bad management , secondly the disappearance of a golden generation, without being able to be quickly replaced by another and if we still want to talk about players, no one has sucked more money from Barcelona than Messi (probably in all club's history), taking into account what he did for the club that doesn't really matter much, I think the main reason was the disappearance of the generation that the club had without other players of the same value to replace them, and the poor management that probably the club had at that time ,another very big reason for a club to struggle , look Man.Utd case after Ferguson who was taking care of everything there, or Chelsea or Juventus I don't think it can ever be the fault of a single player for the decadence of a club, i firmly disagree with u on this one
Barcelona should've gotten rid of Messi sometime after 2015. He basically siphoned the soul out of the club, and I read that Barcelona still owes him his deferred wages until 2025. Mad. I don't care about the fans' perspective, they change their mind everyday. This was just poor management.
I really liked ur vids but this is a bs. U didnt talk bout Griezmann n Dembele + if Couti woulda been that bad he couldnt win UCL with BM😄The truth is Barca ruined him, didnt give him enough chance etc. +OMG what this Barca could do with LM, r u serious man?😂He wasnt even a top player in the farmer Ligue 1 n not in MLS either😆Btw very interesting that now he won FWC (it was paid off anyway) u say he's the best ever🤣A suspicious WC changed ur opinion after many years😆
You should start a little ‘Parallel Universe’ mini series. One episode could be ‘What if Cesc left Arsenal for Barca 2-4yrs later?’ - a more mature Cesc taking the reigns @CM from more aged XaviEsta - Arsenal not losing 7 starters as a result of Cesc leaving
Saying that Coutinho was the crucial point in Barça's downfall is foolish, because Coutinho's signing itself was caused by a domino effect way bigger that changed the whole football world, which was Neymar's transfer to PSG. Now we are talking about something that broke not only Barcelona (because they couldn't find a proper replacement and had to spend high), but also all the transfer fees around the world... Coutinho and Dembelé included. Barcelona was in an awesome shape for the future and this only transfer killed not only Barcelona, but a lot of other clubs who suddenly couldn't compete in the hyperinflated market again
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While it’s not personally Coutinho’s fault, his transfer was the main trigger that made everything accelerate downhill even further.
Barca would spend 27% of their total debt on one player who they would waste, quickly loan out, then eliminate them in their worst loss ever, causing more frustration and unwise spending.
(We all know Barca’s poor management decisions are the real reason)
Please use a consistent Background music. I prefer the older one, it slaps different. Please Raymar
Thank you for the reply I agree with you that it is bad money management and a mix of other stuff. It’s good to see xavi giving all the young men opportunities since me left as there are some great players coming up from la masia! Keep up the good work raymar love your vids on both channels @raymarfootball
No, it's the other way around. Barcelona ruined Coutinho. If you buy a player of that caliber, you need to play the team around him or at least let him to play with the style he was familiar with. If you don't even have the right to take a shot, you could not score. Unfortunately for Coutinho, there was only one focus in Barca at that time, and that was Messi. Barca didn't build a strategy that gave Coutinho space to shine. He was only used as an ordinary player to man his post, and that was not his advantage. To some extent today's Barca is still the same. They don't know how to build a team letting everyone shine. Rather they are still playing a football that is fifteen years old.
So you decided to make a video on how coutinho was one of the main factors for barcas downfall but state in the comments that it was actually barcas management.
Reaction bait much?
Could we get a franck ribery video
He wasn't the problem the problem was that barcelona bought 2 unnecessary players who play the same position as messi, Bartomeu is the one to blame
Raymar cool he just running out of ideas 😂😂
He was never the problem, like I said they didn’t use him properly and he had injury issues, but his signing definitely was a trigger than accelerated Barca’s problems. It didn’t help that he played at his absolute prime vs Barca in the UCL 😂
are you referring to coutinho's 2 goals agianst fcb in 8-2?
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@@annonymousperson1473dont forget 1 assist and playing like he was in his prime 😂
@@RaymarFootball he was in his prime when he was at Bayern.😂😂 He played shit at Liverpool, don't know what barca were smoking when they brought him.
Barca ended Barca. Liverpool are grateful though, we would have never signed Van Dijk and Alisson 😂
Agree. Barca's greatness came form their academy. When they decided to switch their model to a la Madrid model that when things started to do south for them.
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They changed their policy and went for shortcuts cause of Jersey sponsor money which they never had from start to 2012.
Back then they had to develop talents to compete against Madrid's Bank account.
They tried to beat Madrid with Madrid's own game and just felt miserably short
Totally agree
Not true. Liverpool would have aigned Van Dijk anyway. Liverpool was caught tapping up Van Dijk way before the Barca links became known.
@@swordofkhaine8464tapping up😂that's why we over paid at the time for him I remember people criticize 75m for a good defender it's on sky sports I sometimes look at the video to laugh
Another butterfly effect that this caused was liverpool cashing in to sign van dijk and alisson from the fee of coutinho making liverpool more competitive and complete which eventually led them to the elusive premier league and the champions league
And Fabinho
Coutinho at Barca : I am too weak.
Coutinho outside Barca : Unlimited Power!!!!
Yea it’s not that simple, coutinho didn’t fail at barca because he lost his form, he failed because he didn’t have a place in Barcelona, it destined to fail from the start, one of the dumbest signings ever, I never wanted him at barca, not because he want good I actually though he was ridiculously good world class player, but he’s an attacking midfielder, barca doesn’t play with traditional attacking midfielders, we play with creative and high press midfielders, coutinho could never fulfill that role, nor could we play him as attacking midfielder, there was a certain someone called Messi on that team Messi was a free roaming attacking midfielder/winger/forward, but most of the time he was in attacking midfielder zone, so where was coutinho supposed to play ? Not as CM not as Left winger, he was never a winger not a true winger like the ones barca needs, there was never a place for him at barca, bartomeu signed him because 1 he’s dumb and 2 he knew this signing would create a lot of hype
That's why I always say that there's no more difficult club to play for than FC Barcelona. The greatest sport club of the World. 500 millions supportes world wide. Not even United, Madrid or any other club has such a huge number of supporters. Something which is still strange to me, following the club since late 70s when I was a kid.
@@OsoMarcol lol lies, UEFAlona isn't even top 5 club anymore
@@OsoMarcol Pepsi ruined barca cuz they only focused on making money using their golden boy. The team was built around him even they paid referees 😂 club football is business and barca was bad at it.
@@ceebree3387Barca still highest kit sellers in the world, you are probably a hater who wants to stay away from truth.😂😂
I remember how good he was at Bayern Munich. But here is the trick: Coutinho's magic only happens when the jersey is red.
and penaldo’s magic only happens when papa Perez is sending installments to the UCL referees 🐶
Actually he was ok, far from world class and ultimately it was the reason Bayern sent him back to Barca without trying to sign him
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Good? He even barely played for Munchen at that time
@mynamejeff4683 You sound hurt bruv, why you bringing Penaldo name into Barca and Countinho documentary?
This was a trigger event for sure. But the seeds on the collapse were sown with the wages Barcelona gave to players that were unsustainable on the long term. Id argue also giving Messi an albatross of a contract with a new extention each season after 2015 was a contributing factor. After that the inability to transition from an aging core of fantastic players just deepend the problem.
Saying Couthinio is responsible for Barcelona's downfall is probably the stupeidest thing I have ever heard. It is not his fault that the management was sepnding money recklessly and with no real idea in mind.
Good thing no one is saying Coutinio is responsible for Baralona's downfall then.
People are saying Barca buying Coutinio was the reason for downfall....! You even watched the video
It was a combination of Coutinho (To compensate for Neymar leaving) and Dembele (They believed he was another Mbappe) that ruined Barcelona
Both were purchased based on RUclips compliation videos.
i remember barcelona werent sure wether to sign mbapped or dembele i was very dissapointed when they went with dembele in the end
@@anab0licwtf😂 Coutinho was unreal at Liverpool. What are you smoking
@@adesanyasnipple5338 It's easy to be a general after the battle. Respect.
@@adesanyasnipple5338 unreal ???😂😂 200 appearances with 80 GA??? Now we know who's smoking
At EPL having 20 goals in a season is God level...
While at La Liga, Messi and CR7 were pumping in 40 goals regularly. Someone worth 150 mil giving them 18 goals is just not appealing at all..😅
Cou was a midfielder though , unfair comparison
@@goalsdraw8897Coutinho mostly played on the left wing at Liverpool. There were dicusions while he was at the club about making him a midfielder and hoping his playmaking abilities would move with him. I remember of few games towards the end of his Liverpool tenure where did play as a CM behind the Salah, Mane, and Firmino front three and the results were promising. Despite that it was absolute madness for Barca to go after someone had just begun playing games as a midfielder and spend 150 mill as if he was a finished product.
That's their fault for paying the fee and expecting Messi and Ronaldo numbers. Nothing to do with the league. After all, Ronaldo came from that same league where you say 20 goals is considered 'God level'...
messi and ronaldo score 40 plus goals only 3 times in their time at barcelona and real madrid, rest of the seasons they score 30 plus
Prob u dumbest video ever. Coutinho was not barcas downfall, literally no Barca fan walks around thinking if only we didn’t get Coutinho we wouldn’t be over 1B£ in debt. 🤦
Coutinho said his dream was to play for Barca...
And that's how you can learn that sometimes following your dreams is not good.
Our poor magician...he should've listened to the gaffers words , this is probably what hes going to be remembered for.
well i would say the reason is Lionel Messi....before abusing me and my family read what im tryna say
barca used to play like a team up until 16/17...team didnt play FOR lionel Messi...yes team might be built around messi but team didnt play for him....everyone played their game helped the team....after the departure of neymar and after Iniesta started declining.. things massively changed...whoever watched 17/18 season knew coutinho played extremely well... almost justified his price tag.... he played in his natural position.... but after that everything changed... team started to play for Messi
messy played as rw,cm,cam,rm in the team and the respective players in those positions sacrificed their positions for him as they have to... didn't play their game... pass to Messi... that's it...messsi isn't the one to be blamed... managers were utterly clueless and incapable of managing a club like Barca... they didn't have their ideas and simply relied on Messi to carry them giving him all the positional freedom he wants at the cost of others.... any football team that solely plays FOR one player is a recipe for disaster...u can build rhe teaM around a player like Madrid did with Ronaldo... that's why they are still winning... Barca without anything just crumbled cuz no players have the habit of holding responsibility
Guys,bro is just saying BARCA BECAME WAY TOO DEPENDENT ON MESSI,ITS not a hate comment,
Pretty solid oberservation,I still don't think Barca are gonna beat RM,they are overworking and are over dependent on the lamasian wonder kids,
That Neymar signing fee changed football, it was his transfer that led Barcelona to sign Coutinho for an absurd amount which then led to Liverpool buying all there current star players
Bruh blaming Neymar now😂
Buying expensive players only as spare parts. That's how educated Barcelona is.
It was crazy PC's fall and how poorly he was mismanaged... As a Madrid Fan I especially relished the 8-2 annihilation where he had a brace against his parent tesm lmao... Like how did barca loan him without a clause to not play against them in the UCL...
Its just crazy because there were a few years in a row where PC was a top attacking midfielder ...
But we all make our blunders and mismanagements... Madrid bringing in Hazard and the mismanagement of James and Isco come to mind
how many times can u say mismanaged in a comment
@@simonpeyton-n3h 3
Not a big loss- eventually Vinicius and Rodrygo meant you really didn't miss him that much.
Mismanaged? If Coutinho's case was mismanagement, then Pedri's, Gavi's, Ansu Fati's and current Lamine Yamal's are BLATANT ABUSE
Real at least didn't offer any of their players the sort of contract Barcelona offered Messi, that was madness.
People who agree harry Maguire is the best goal scorer of all time⬇️
grow up
Npc 🤓
Talk to someone, get help.
@@suprakashkar9783nah, Harry Magiure is the GGSOAT if you disagree you have no ball knowledge
Like begging 😊
😮 So many possibilities if Coutinho never got signed by Barca
Of course there’s a lot of what if situations with players and signings, but I think Coutinho’s was one of the biggest “trigger” events
If my aunt had balls…..
Coutiho is not the only problem, Dembele and Greizman are also why Barcelona are in financial crisis
You can't talk about Barca financial problems without mentioning the ridiculous contracts Messi got and was asking year after year. He got 9 renewals in total since his debut. That's a lot.
Yeah? What about Barcelona profiting 4x by using Messi's name, selling his jerseys or from his sponsors?. The only man who kept Barcelona relevant after 2017 was Messi. Have some shame and respect the man.
You are being sensitive just because he criticizes your favourite player, messi is a human and is not perfect, he profited off barcelona too. Okay he's a goat, but he also took unhealthy amount of money from his club.@@protik_d Nobody's perfect bro stop worshipping someone that doesn't even know you exist and grow up.
Unhealthy? What Messi was paid is practically insignificant compared to the revenue Barça made out of him.
Cost to be the best
@@raphaelfillos6120 and blaming Messi for the financial mess proves that it’s you who really need to grow up
One name: Josep Maria Bartomeu
and the Barca board
Forget Di Stefano, Puskas, Raul, Ronaldo or Zidane - he is the greatest legend of Real Madrid.
Its Messi, crazy how no one says it
@@Popwarthogyes tbh his crazy wages too
It might sound crazy, but Coutinho's move to Barcelona really changed football as we know it today. If he never went there, we might see Messi still in Barca, Mbappe in Madrid, and even Haaland in Bayern. But what other possibilities could have happened if he stayed in Liverpool? 🤔
@@MrGts92great point, and they would’ve potentially never won a UCL and PL title as well without those 2
Very harsh to say that coutinho’s move to Barcelona ruined not just him but the whole club (Barcelona) maybe there over spending and going into death and un able to pay messi’s wages that ruined them so it’s pathetic of you to say that he coutinho ruined the club
I disagree here, if u keenly analyse you'll understand that the day Xavi left Barcelona FC the day it started its downward spiral.
Pep's influence on Barcelona was a hangover (after he left) that only Xavi managed.
Barcelona FC became vulnerable after they lost possession during Non-Spanish European clubs & succumbed to counters & fast paced attacks.
Rakitic was more skilled than Xavi but he couldn't set tempo of the game (Iniesta without Xavi was useless)
For me Pep Guardiola rather built Barcelona FC wrt Xavi as pivot & game's tactics (though people think it's Messi), Pep Guardiola himself misjudged this fact to think it was Messi. Thus after Xavi left Barcelona FC appeared clueless the very next game (2016 Barcelona was strongest team way stronger than Real Madrid yet u could see them being fully vulnerable that PSG made them overwork & Roma kick them out later)
@@kothicamedarth2680 so you do agree with me then. that’s all I said was blaming coutinho for the whole downfall of the club is ridiculous but you said you disagree and gave a lot of examples of why the club has had its downfalls so you yourself are contradicting yourself
@@robertbyrnee4147 Obviously I hold Countinho for accelerating the downfall but he's not the reason.
FC Barcelona didn't analyse the game Xavi played & tried to fit others into his shoes.
Raymar thank you finally to make a video on the player I wanted to see on you channel thank and keep up the good work mate😊
The fact that Lewandowski is a pure striker that *NEEDS* Service, and Barca Midfield just keep dribbling for no reason seems insane to me
Bro got more service by Thomas muller than entire Barca combined that's crazy
They bought a striker and let all the wingers go (dembele, greizman)
Also the fact that Barca was not going to sign Messi in 2023-24 transfer window too and all for free transfer and less than 30M salary (only about 13M net salary), at least for 1 season is utterly ridiculous
Not only it would provide significant help for Barca's financial crisis recovery but also help Lewy at doing his job too
The truth is that he didn't, he was just used as a scapegoat because Barca failed and failed again. The truth is that the glue of Barca's golden era was Xavi/Iniesta, when Xavi left it was over, Messi didnt have the charisma to hold the team together and the repeated failed transfers didnt help.
He didn’t but his transfer started it all
Kind of clickbait in the title sorry, but I’m just saying overall his signing was the butterfly effect trigger.
However I did go on to justify how it wasnt his fault but bad decision making, injury, and removing his role and touches that lead to him not being at his best.
But it didn’t help that he played beastly when he handed them their worst defeat in UCL history 😂
Couthino was a lazy player for Barca he fuck us and he also fuck himself
Totally cluless if you believe that messi didnt hold the team.He is the only reason they won the league cdr and reached the later stages of the ucl.Our attack was good only because of messi but there was no defense.2018 and 2019 were probably Messi's best years in terms of pure footballing ability he could literally do everything in midfield and attack
and they won the league again after he left, you dont measure the success of a team like Barcelona with league titles, you do it with UCLs@@Tony_Sab
Great video Raymar.
The selling grass part had me dying skul
Forget Ronaldo, forget Di Stefano, forget Raul and forget Ancelotti. Josep Maria Bartomeu is the greatest Real Madrid legend there ever was.
Not talking about Dembele? It was a combination of both Coutinho and Dembele. As for Griezman that happened in later season so i wouldn't count that
It’s Bartomeu he signed these players he gave them ridiculous contracts that would cost too much for the club
Ya’ll remember how great he was at Liverpool? 😭😭
I’d watch Liverpool matches just to see him play back then honestly, man was a legitimate wizard
@@RaymarFootball True man, same here
Nice channel man. You have really good quality even tho you don’t have much subs.
@@Zileee1 Thanks man, I really appreciate it! ❤️
I haven't watched the UCL ever since Coutinho left Liverpool. 😢
If Barca has Coutinho...Real had James Rodriguez
James was just a revenue service for them. The hype train
James' transfer fee was amortized over 6 years so his cost to Real's finances was meaningless compared to how much Coutinho was a drag on Barcelona's finances. Hazard is probably the closest equivalent Real had.
It's sad what happened to Coutinho. He was my favorite among the fab four. He was the John Lennon😢
>Be born in Brazil
>Be too good at football
>Get a bunch of experience in brazillian's tournaments
>Get signed to an European Club
>Be an absolute menace on the field for a few months
>Get signed to an even bigger european club
>Get injured
>Stop training as much
>Do too much partying
>Fall off and disappoint everyone
The Brazillian Star Cycle
Liverpool won't be the strong team that used to be without this controversial transfer. They used a payload of money from Coutinho for VVD, Alisson, and Fabinho; all 3 being the key players for Liverpool that won the Champions League in 2018/19 and Premier League in 2019/20. They also caused a final straw of Barcelona's decline with the infamous Anfield game on the 2nd leg semifinal of 2018/19, winning 4-0 after being 0-3 down at Camp Nou.
I'm a catalan culé so I can speak from the general feelings of those days. When PSG "robbed" us Neymar, we went crazy looking for substitutes, that when looking in hindsight, we didn't really need. They tried to appease the fans by buying dembelé and coutinho, for actually more money combined than the transfer of Neymar.
That's one of the poor managenement decisions, but there are more. Almost all players were receiving an exagerated salary and of course they didn't want to move. The "success" of player's contracts renovation, always presented grandiously, was in the long term a big failure. Remember Umtiti, for example... RMFC is more intelligent in doing short contracts with their players.
Truly a loss for us, we hope to one day, clean up our debt, finish our new stadium, and win the UCL once again.
What we will never forgive is the loss of our biggest star, Messi, in the middle of the covid pandemia. Not even one act of farewell. He was my only icon and I was broken.
should just kept pedro and febregas, all those extra money cant buy u player suitable for the system
@@laujack24 brother that was way back. we also lost thiago...
@@StickyBarcelona thats even more ancient, he left because he cant get a starting position in the team back in 2012/2013. if we know neymar gonna leave there really no reason to sell pedro, he was always a good sub. and at one point he was a good starter in 2011. with so many injury we can keep the man. that man show up on big matches, and know how to shoot. unlike all the trash we bought for 350 + millions. they dont do shit on big matches. thiago, fabregas and sanchez they left for chasing dream for a better career instead being on the bench. but we shouldn't let pedro go. that was the biggest mistake barcelona made.
THIS GUY WAS A GREAT PLAYER AND WON A LOT SO NO NEED TO BE UPSET
Poor Coutinho :( He was honestly very solid in his first season with Barcelona, but they just never had the right coaching to utilize him properly. In reality, he is merely the result of the worst management in football history done by Bartomeu.
Julio cesar and samir handanovič are so underrated. Can you make a video of them ?
Julio Cesar underrated only for people who don’t know football.
COUTINHO WAS INCREDIBLE ONE OF THE MOST UNDERRATED PLAYERS OF THIS GEN IF YOU WANNA BLAME ANYONE BLAME BARCELONAS PRESIDENT AT THE TIME AND KOEMAN FOR GETTING RID OF SUAREZ
after neymar left, messi and suarez with some other players stepped up and provided some soul to the club, but after suarez left, it just messi, literally no other player was stepping up and messi by far carried the club, but when he left, he neither had a replacement nor a player who could atleast be a leader, barcelona tried to flex that they had so much money by buying so many expensive players instead of focusing on their youth academy, they tried to copy madrid. They learnt how to spend money from madrid, but they never learnt where to spend it from them
Liverpool must have said yes so fast, 150M lmao, almost the same as Bale + Ronaldo, Barça was trolling, Bartomeu was a Madrid agent.
Dembele,Coutinho,Griezmann all too expensive,none of them helped win a cl,those 3 destroyed the team
Saying Messi destroyed team.Messi plays well when team around him and in late 10s his pressing was too weak. Team has to do both additional role...To cover space when Messi drop deep ,also the extra pressing. They bought players that it's difficult to play with Leo Messi Because of thier style. Griezi is a fantastic player... similar style ..weaker in attack,stronger in defence when compared to Messi.
@@A123-c6o stfu Griezmann is a good player that achieved 20% of what Messi did,don´t make a fool out of yourself.
It's not their fault that Barcelona's board brought players they didn't need at the time and that didn't fit with Messi.
I don’t blame Coutinho but I do blame Bartoumeu. His re-election in 2015 was our downfall. So one could Lucho was responsible for the downfall. Luis Suarez.
I feel the same way about Real Madrid signing Isco, a total waste, because they made him play different and never achieved his true potential
Isco was an important part of our UCL three-peat, and he was a special player. He did his part. Even if things didn't go well in the end, he's still loved and appreciated by the fans. You can use Hazard for the comparison, he was an utter waste and ungrateful player, but not our Isco.
Barcelona destroyed itself by overpaying for players.
Not his problem that Barcelona couldn’t utilize him correctly. Poor management and terrible coaching as well as tactics are what messed up Barcelona, not Coutinho. This is what a salary cap as well as doing away with transfer fees needs to happen. Clubs should be required to operate in the black, not in a perpetual state of debt.
Why do your videos always edit out mid sentence?
Copyright
Why are there so many commentary cutouts in the video? -_-
In a world where messi was still in barca real bought mbappe and haaland upgraded to bayern..man imagine if in that world messi didnt win the world cup..
Dude...
You have some badass cklickbait tricks up your sleeve
it was so obvious it was never going to work, everyone but barca and coutinho saw it. He had complete freedom at Liverpool, and their fast rapid style suited him so much.
This one transfer led to Liverpool winning the premier league and Champions league. That amount of money made sure they could buy the players that would be the most iconic for the club
As a Barca fan, I will say I don’t have issues with him. The main issue is the ones above the manager, above the team that are ruining this once great club
The real trigger event is neymar, Countinho coming was bartomeus fault but bartomeu making desperate decisions was because neymar left at his prime for money and out of nowhere leaving barca desperate o making signings, after that they signed dembele who was in the hospital for 5 years basically
Who knew that Coutinho would turn out to be one of my most cherished players :)
I keep thinking about Coutinho these past few days and I remember the epic TV commercial in the World Cup of 2014 and he was in it but not in the 23 man squad. How unfortunate!
No issues with blaming coutinho true or not. Watching his free fall was so entertaining
damn 😭😂 why the dislike for the man
At least he won the CL with Bayern in 2020
Not a true football fan . He never was a cocky betraying all-day-partying type of player . Family man professional and loved by the fans , sick of you getting happy while one of the greatest brazilian talents of all time never saw its true potential
Messi did more damage with his crazy wages weekly
Yeah idc i will never stop defending coutinho . Bro was the absolute elite of the premier League just before he signed for barca and he continued to produce numbers up until 18/19 season . The "karma" of Liverpool , the memes and barca fans scapegoating him did unfair to one of the most talented players ever . I used to really like Barca but not anymore after what they did to him . They were the ones who destroyed his career not the opposite.
Coutinho should have stayed at Liverpool. Liverpool fans loved him I believe when he was there. It’s so sad to see such a player who was once one of the best in Liverpool career tragically end the way his did.
@@kerengarcia1811 one of the best in the world *
barcelona signed 2 players (griezmann and coutinho ) who naturally played on messi's position , they were destined to flop it was a management fault not a player fault
Why are you whispering, are you kidnapped? Are you a heavy smoker? Blink twice
8:36 😂😂😂😂
he really said that 😭💀
@@RaymarFootball we believe bro, and ofcourse.. subscribed 😏👍🏽😁
Long time coming 👍
The club was rotten from the inside and out. Easy to pick him as your scapegoat.
9:50 One BIG omission in your ‘alternate universe’: Coutinho would have stayed at Liverpool, and they would have had to build a statue for him.
Simply put... Barcelona just failed to transition/regenerate. The players they brought in (Coutinho, Dembele, Griezman, etc) were bought for high transfers but didn't work out for whatever reason.
The reason is the board under Bartomeu.
The reason is they played with millions and had brain of 5 year old. Griezman is best when he is centre of team. Coutinho role with Leo is difficult because they does some similar role when Messi dropped deep. So that's putting these players out of thier strength role and giving them supporting role to Messi. And mentally too weak when team go down. Xavi was the guy who did it from 09 and Messi had little pressure. When Xavi goes the power of MSN was thier to hold them. And Suarez prime ended Neymar left slowly Barca bece weak. Somehow they did well in league until 19 because Messi can do well in small games his magic.
It's because they didn't work with Messi. Coutinho plays the same roll as Messi, Griezmann as well. And Dembele was just injured for 90% of the time.
They started Downfall in 2017 while it started Kamikaze at 4-0 on Anfield
Lost Hopes of Treble when lost UCL that night, Copa del Rey final few days after and never reached Semis since
Lost Messi 2 yrs later and went to Europa twice. Now towards 0 Trophy season again
Coutinho is a absolute baller! Can't waiting for him to join his childhood club Vasco da Gama again!
VAR gets introduced😂 Brokelona stops winning UCL
And so did Penaldo 😂
@@Vipul6190Funniest comment lmao
They paid refs for 20 years from the year 2000…. Ironically that happened to be Barcas best era where to win 4 ucls… beforehand 1 ucl 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
@@cristianlopez6801 They are found innocent so cry somewhere else
@@Vipul6190 there’s nothing to cry about. Madrid has 14 ucls, still has more la liga titles and is still one of the top 3 teams in Europe. Barca isn’t even a top 3 team in la liga rn 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think you are giving Coutinho too much credit here, the root cause is Josep Batomee
Imagine knowing that your transfer/time at a club would become a major factor in its downfall. That’s an exaggeration ofc, but I wouldn’t know how to sleep at night being in that situation.
As a Real Madrid fan I was so gutted when Coutinho transferred to Barca. He was my favorite player when he was at Liverpool. Him being a reason why Barcelona has fallen actually makes me a little content 😂
Low confidence player who was only able to reach his heights with Klopp. Thanks we bought Van Dijk and Alisson for him.
Coutinho did not start out badly at FC Barcelona, the villian Valverde benched him and destroyed his confidence. He never fully recovered after that season.
I support Borussia Dortmund. When Barcelona wanted Dembele and Dembele started skipping training, I've talk Barca fans: you don't need a player like him, he is disloyal and lazy. They've said: Dembele is not showing disloyalty, he is showing his love for Barca.
Same with Coutinho, Malcolm and more. Barcelona fans were too optimistic. The leadership of the club is of course the same. This is the risk of having a club run by fans. (Not that in Germany clubs are run differently.)
As for Coutinho, remember where he started - in Inter. He is only 31, and feels so long ago.
A single player doesn't ruin a football club, poor continued management does. This title is sensational at best.
U must try a video of rues or totti loyalty to their clubs
O Cria voltou querendo demais
can't blame Coutinho nor Neymar nor Dembele it was Bartomeu chucking such price tags on them putting overwhelming pressure on them. + he didn't play his natural position often chucked at LW with is his pace was pretty useless. Just like Griezmann they were forced to play at different positions due to Messi being the centre and main creator of Barcelona team. So to this day i don't get why he was bought for?? for replacing Neymar or Iniesta?? Barca board panicked asf buy random world class players thinking i would spark another MSN.
Like gundogan ,predictble too mucho control, static, similar to de Jong, why gundogan was bought have no idea, an lewa an área forward
I remember a Liverpool fan live stream where they were looking at stats and it was obvious that with coutinho on the starting 11 they played worst than without him.I didnt believe it but it looks like they were right
I'm pretty sure those are games with Salah on the right, Firmino through the middle but with Mane playing on the left wing, which was Continho's usual spot. In attempt to get Liverpool's four best offensive players on the field at the same time Coutinho became part of a mid-field three. Things didn't click immediately and there certainly were some tough passages. You could see after a few games that things were getting figured out by the players and coaches and that having all of Liverpool's Fab Four playing together made them them a *very* dangerous offense. The end of that experiment came when Barca come calling and gave Liverpool 150 mill with the apparent belief that Cotinhuo would be a world class midfielder in their squad.
Never understood why we bought him. We needed a LW, not a CAM. Screw Barto for ruining our club.
Klopp saw what happened to Götze, Hummels (by that time), Sahin, Mkhitarian and other Dortmund players, so he was spot on: go somewhere else and you will be just another player, stay here and you will build a legacy.
Coutinho and Griezmann, a double whammy of signings from which Barcelona couldn't recover. Tempting to add Dembelé as well to the list. Anyhow, with the exception of 2004-2016 Barcelona has always been a spectacularly mismanaged club with incomprehensible transfer policy. It was the case in the early 00s as well with Rochemback, Geovanni and more until they needed Rijkaard and Ronaldinho to rescue them from becoming meaningless.
They should have sold Messi and atleast made some money 💰💰
Inter always believed in coutinho, we forced to sell coutinho, because we need money.
They didn’t know how to use Coutinho, proof is when they sent him to Bayern he actually played solid, not as Liverpool days but still, if anything, Barça kinda of ruined Coutinho
Coutinho might be one of the few butterfly effects that lead to Messi WC imo
I believe that the headline is to attract public but its awful. Coutinho had NOTHING to do with Barcas fall. Barca and the management did.
They paid that much for him, they missused him…
By the same reasoning you can say Neymar ruined Barca singlehandedly because, he abandoned them and nobody could replace him.
When I first saw the image of the video on youtube, I wanted to agree with you in some way, only that I thought it was about Messi, but I was somehow disappointed when I saw that everything was about Coutinho. First of all , in all football history, there is no bigger reason for a club to decline then bad management , secondly the disappearance of a golden generation, without being able to be quickly replaced by another and if we still want to talk about players, no one has sucked more money from Barcelona than Messi (probably in all club's history), taking into account what he did for the club that doesn't really matter much, I think the main reason was the disappearance of the generation that the club had without other players of the same value to replace them, and the poor management that probably the club had at that time ,another very big reason for a club to struggle , look Man.Utd case after Ferguson who was taking care of everything there, or Chelsea or Juventus I don't think it can ever be the fault of a single player for the decadence of a club, i firmly disagree with u on this one
Barcelona should've gotten rid of Messi sometime after 2015. He basically siphoned the soul out of the club, and I read that Barcelona still owes him his deferred wages until 2025. Mad. I don't care about the fans' perspective, they change their mind everyday. This was just poor management.
Watching this as a Barca fan hurts
This guys voice is giving me goosebumps 🥶
Messi on high wages for years was the reason they had money problems
I really liked ur vids but this is a bs.
U didnt talk bout Griezmann n Dembele + if Couti woulda been that bad he couldnt win UCL with BM😄The truth is Barca ruined him, didnt give him enough chance etc.
+OMG what this Barca could do with LM, r u serious man?😂He wasnt even a top player in the farmer Ligue 1 n not in MLS either😆Btw very interesting that now he won FWC (it was paid off anyway) u say he's the best ever🤣A suspicious WC changed ur opinion after many years😆
love ur vids
One of my favorite players ''Little Magician"
Crazy because I was just watching his old highlights yesterday
You should start a little ‘Parallel Universe’ mini series. One episode could be ‘What if Cesc left Arsenal for Barca 2-4yrs later?’
- a more mature Cesc taking the reigns @CM from more aged XaviEsta
- Arsenal not losing 7 starters as a result of Cesc leaving
7:03 said Liverpool….
Saying that Coutinho was the crucial point in Barça's downfall is foolish, because Coutinho's signing itself was caused by a domino effect way bigger that changed the whole football world, which was Neymar's transfer to PSG. Now we are talking about something that broke not only Barcelona (because they couldn't find a proper replacement and had to spend high), but also all the transfer fees around the world... Coutinho and Dembelé included. Barcelona was in an awesome shape for the future and this only transfer killed not only Barcelona, but a lot of other clubs who suddenly couldn't compete in the hyperinflated market again