Good video, just a couple extra points from someone who's done this a few times. It's always good to take out the fill cap first to ensure it's not jammed or stripped, because if you drain your diff, and then can't fill it, that's a bit of a nightmare. Also, based on the colour of your fluid coming out, I'd say your seal was either leaking before the change, or more than likely you've got an axle seal leak. Fluid should be clearish with small "sparkles" in it, when it's this chocolate milkshake colour it usually means you've got a leak somewhere.
You bet, no problem at all. One of the best things about owning a Jeep is that there is always someone out there willing to help! I've learned a whole lot since having mine. Great quality vid as well!
Also, if you do a lot of off-roading you could be getting some water in through the breather when driving through deep water. Might want to consider extending your breathers if that is the case.
Ryan B- I watched the video to make sure there wasn't anything wonky going on with a fluid swap and I read your comment. I thought "Huh- that's smart." The front went quick and easy. The back? The fill plug will NOT come out. I even put a breaker bar on it and it still wouldn't budge. If I'd have just removed the drain plug, I'd be dead in the water. As it stands, I'm driving to Reilly's in my Wrangler to pick up red RTV and brake cleaner in the morning and I'll do the rear Differential then the transfer case/tranny afterwards while the RTV sets. Thanks brother!
Good video. I suggest when you scrape the gasket around the differential to put a rag or something over the gears so you don't get any pieces of gasket in the differential.
im slowly learning how do things myself cause autoshops chsrge a lot. Was gonna get charged 400 for this. And brake fluid etc. I not only want to save money but also gain the knowledge of my vehicle so when im off roading i have a better understanding of it and can fix things without relying on going to a ship everytime. Now sometimes it is necessary cause I dont have the tools or knowledge they have. So I loved this video and all the comments. Learned a ton and if it takes me awhile so be at. I want to learn. Took my 10 hours flr my bumper, battery, winch. Skid plate and lights. But hey I got it done and learned new things. Love the jeep and off road community. :)
I am so glad I watched this video. I am swapping my front dif cover for a heavy duty one and at the same time changing the oil on my rear D44. My rear drain plug looks like it's gonna be a pain in the ass but you are right I can just unbolt it, clean in and seal it without messing with the drain plug. Thanks!
I was wondering if that brake clean fluid will interfere with the oil once you fill the diff back up? Or are you supposed to spray it down the brake clean, then dry the gears and teeth as best you can? Anyone know?
I hate when I see people do this. It removes all the oil from everything, so the first 10 seconds or so of driving, everything is bone dry. I always do a drain/fill, wait 5k miles, drain, open and wipe down only.
I have a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Sport. I took it to the shop and they wanted me to pay $140 to do this. Nice video. I did it myself for not even half that. Perfect. Thanks man.
hand tightin the bolts and let the gasket maker set up a bit then tightin the bolts up then you make a actual gasket insted of it just pissin out the side
You must change your diff oil often. The old gasket was still new. While scraping the old gasket cover the gears with news paper so nothing falls inside. The oil is really thick and hard to squeeze out. Almost impossible if it's cold. I recommend sitting your oil inside overnight if it's cold out. If it's summer let it sit in the sun for a hour. It's to thick sitting in the store with temperature control A/C. Regular driving, change it every 3-5 years.I go off roading and work those gears hard, I change mine every spring. Before recycling my old oil I like to use it to bring life back into my hand tools like crescent wrenches and channel locks. I use a flat shovel in the winter so I rub it on my shovel so come winter time snow doesn't stick to it. I also use it on the hinges of my shed doors. I heard you can pour it around your foundation to prevent termites. Keep in mind, diff oil stinks bad.
You should add that you need to just hand tighten the bolts and allow the gasket maker to harden for an hour, then tighten the bolts to spec. I did my truck the same way you did and I keep getting a leak. Even the package that the gasket maker comes in says to hand tighten for X amount of time then tighten bolt to the recommended torque!
Very well done! I love that you sped up some parts of the video. Peppy music would be fun during those moments. :-) I'd recommend scarping off the old gasket material before cleaning, so if you get little gasket pieces inside they will get flushed out when you clean with brake fluid.
Wouldn't lazy way to do it be through the drain plug? JK diffs have a drain hole on the bottom. Remove the plug and drain oil. Put the plug back in. Remove the upper filler plug and pour petrol. Close the plug and rotate wheels for couple minutes. remove both plugs and drain everything. Leave both plugs removed to let everything dry, or also put pressurized air through for several minutes. Put the lower plug and fill up. Put the upper plug back on and call it a day.
Is the front diff more-or-less the same process? My front differential breather hose blew out of the diff somehow and blew oil out. Just noticed it today while changing engine oil. Plugged the hose back in but I want to take the differential cover off just to see if there’s any damage. Advice? Thanks in advance.
tony, may honestly It depends how you drive the Jeep second it’s up to you, the dealer charges a lot to change the fluid, it’s cheaper if you do it at home
In 2017, if your 2017 window sticker said Dana 44 Heavy Duty axle but doesnt say limited slip or Trac-loc, does that definitely mean you dont need the additive? Is it a problem to use synthetic with the additive anyway? Thanks
Christine & Chris Abdow good question, honestly it wouldn’t be a problem, it also depends how you’re using the Jeep, now that I’m running bigger wheels I’m going to go up in Weight I’m going to use 75w140
About how often would you suggested to change the differential fluid? I was told by the dealership every 30,000 miles on a 2 door 2017 Jeep Wrangler. Appreciate the feedback bro. This look simple, I should just do it myself!
Zachary Spiva yes you can do it your self and you’ll save lots of money, it’s honestly how you drive the jeep I know people that do it every 30,000 or 15,000
I want to remove the cover next time, I’ve just done drain and fills, but removing gives you the opportunity to “deep clean”. I’ll use a lubelocker though, especially while I am still under Powertrain warranty in case the diff gears need replacement.
@@vigilantemotors yes, on my 2010 Rubicon, I also want to take off the sway bar module and take it apart, clean out any contaminants and regrease it. I’ve heard many have done this type of service and actually got it operational again and also do it for preventative maintenance.
I wouldn't recommend brake cleaner inside the diff. There is no way you can get it all out of there. Now you have fresh oil and brake cleaner inside the diff. That reaidual brake cleaner is just destroying that new oil.
Brake cleaner is an organic compound designed to dissolve other organic compounds similar to it. Organic compounds simply dissolve other organic compounds in to solution without changing their properties like, say, acids do. So breaking down the gear oil is not an issue, especially if you also take care to wipe as much of the brake cleaner out of the diff before adding the new gear oil. Also, the tiny amount of brake cleaner compared to the large volume of gear oil makes this a non-issue.
I was wondering this myself. Would seem like a good idea. Some say that it might prevent the oil from bonding to the gears inside -- which is really what you want to happen for proper cooling and less wear and tear. I am not an expert on it.
Brake parts cleaner is a solvent, so more than likely, whatever little amount of it, not picked up by the cleaning rags, would have evaporated by the time he finished making the gasket and installing the cover back up. If you really want to make sure you got it all, you can blow air with a compressor before closing it back up.
While it is true that you can DRAIN the fluid by removing the plug, you can't get out all the junk and gunk without taking the cover off. And removing the cover and replacing the seal is no big deal and doesn't cost much at all. If you want to do it right, do it this young man's way. Otherwise, you're leaving a bunch of crap inside the differential to mix with your nice clean oil. But, hey, if that's your standard, more power to you.
At the beginning of the video, he pointed out the drain and fill plugs and clearly stated that it could be done using them, but that he wanted to show how to do it by taking the cover off. I personally would take the cover off and do a thorough inspection and cleaning of the area.
It is foolish to spray a solvent into an oiled assembly. The detergents in the oil will keep the parts clean if you change the oil often enough. Brake cleaner will only break down the oils ability to lubricate!!!!
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Good video, just a couple extra points from someone who's done this a few times. It's always good to take out the fill cap first to ensure it's not jammed or stripped, because if you drain your diff, and then can't fill it, that's a bit of a nightmare. Also, based on the colour of your fluid coming out, I'd say your seal was either leaking before the change, or more than likely you've got an axle seal leak. Fluid should be clearish with small "sparkles" in it, when it's this chocolate milkshake colour it usually means you've got a leak somewhere.
Ryan B thank you for the tips now I know
You bet, no problem at all. One of the best things about owning a Jeep is that there is always someone out there willing to help! I've learned a whole lot since having mine. Great quality vid as well!
Is the front diff the same process... easy DIY for the front as we'll. I have a sport not a Rubicon.
Also, if you do a lot of off-roading you could be getting some water in through the breather when driving through deep water. Might want to consider extending your breathers if that is the case.
Ryan B- I watched the video to make sure there wasn't anything wonky going on with a fluid swap and I read your comment. I thought "Huh- that's smart." The front went quick and easy. The back? The fill plug will NOT come out. I even put a breaker bar on it and it still wouldn't budge. If I'd have just removed the drain plug, I'd be dead in the water. As it stands, I'm driving to Reilly's in my Wrangler to pick up red RTV and brake cleaner in the morning and I'll do the rear Differential then the transfer case/tranny afterwards while the RTV sets.
Thanks brother!
Good video. I suggest when you scrape the gasket around the differential to put a rag or something over the gears so you don't get any pieces of gasket in the differential.
The Bearded Jeeper yes thank you for that
@@PhatJeepsvideos no problem. Gotta look out for the jeepin community
I was worried about that too
Great advice thank you for that
That, and just do it before you use the brake cleaner.
Very good video! Thank you for taking the time to make it and share it with us.
im slowly learning how do things myself cause autoshops chsrge a lot. Was gonna get charged 400 for this. And brake fluid etc. I not only want to save money but also gain the knowledge of my vehicle so when im off roading i have a better understanding of it and can fix things without relying on going to a ship everytime. Now sometimes it is necessary cause I dont have the tools or knowledge they have. So I loved this video and all the comments. Learned a ton and if it takes me awhile so be at. I want to learn. Took my 10 hours flr my bumper, battery, winch. Skid plate and lights. But hey I got it done and learned new things. Love the jeep and off road community. :)
Great video thanks bud. I'm down here in Africa, you've just helped me a stack. Please keep more service vids coming!
Lifes Good, no problem I'm glad this video helped you out, there's many more coming.
Good job man. Straight to the point and informative.
I followed you're instructions as well as people's advice below. It went great! Thank you for the video that saved me over $600!!
I am so glad I watched this video. I am swapping my front dif cover for a heavy duty one and at the same time changing the oil on my rear D44. My rear drain plug looks like it's gonna be a pain in the ass but you are right I can just unbolt it, clean in and seal it without messing with the drain plug. Thanks!
G Hernandez no problem I’m glad the video helped 👍🏼
video was very helpful good job from a soCal jeep owner
Very good. I like that he showed each step including taking off the old RTV.
Thanks for that mate. I was going to take my Jeep to a mechanic to do this but I had not realised how easy the process is. Thank you
Same. Was gonna be charged 400$ for it too. Now im like screw that I can do that myself.
@@Nelsoh_ I thought my mechanic was high wanting $100 to do it.
Thanks for the help. Looks easy enough. Good job on the video, too
Great video brother! Thanks for the help. I am waiting on front and rear TicTac diff covers and will use this information when I start this project!
Mr. Jetson awesome I’m glad it helped
Thank u for making and sharing this video👌👍plse make more!
Great video! You got it really clean!
Excellent video sir, subbed you as well. Keep them coming.
Dale
Nice video 👌👌 Alot of people seem to torque immediately which leads to leaks so nice work actually waiting the hour :)
Thanks and very helpful video! U fill the oil until it starts leaking correct? Thanks again!
As a heavy equipment tech, the brake cleaner is the correct way of flushing the system
I was wondering about that. Thanks!
I would say because it evaporates fast?
I was wondering if that brake clean fluid will interfere with the oil once you fill the diff back up? Or are you supposed to spray it down the brake clean, then dry the gears and teeth as best you can? Anyone know?
Brake cleaner evaporates very quickly so once sprayed the product is gone completely in a matter of a couple minutes
I hate when I see people do this. It removes all the oil from everything, so the first 10 seconds or so of driving, everything is bone dry. I always do a drain/fill, wait 5k miles, drain, open and wipe down only.
I have a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Sport. I took it to the shop and they wanted me to pay $140 to do this. Nice video. I did it myself for not even half that. Perfect. Thanks man.
Luke O no problem I’m glad the video helped
Good job.. also we in the middle east use the breake cleaner to clean the diff.. well job.
awesome video, thanks for sharing, I have learnt.
Great video, great haircut, love it!
Stenbergskij thank you !
Thank you! No more paying someone else to do this work! Easy peasy!
Solid work man! About to get mine done here soon.
Thanks, man. You're a dead set legend for sharing this info. Subscribed.
Easy instructions, thanks man.
Great how to video. Very informative. I also subscribed.
nyc_jeep_wrangler thanks i subscribed back
Great Video. Thank you.
Nicely done, young man !
Great vid thanks man
Great instructional video. Thank You
Demetria Loukas thank you and no problem
Perfect vid my friend.
hand tightin the bolts and let the gasket maker set up a bit then tightin the bolts up then you make a actual gasket insted of it just pissin out the side
man you make it so simple so easy
Great video!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!
Would you be kind enough to let me know what the fill amount is for a front and rear diff in a 2017 JKU sport?
You must change your diff oil often. The old gasket was still new. While scraping the old gasket cover the gears with news paper so nothing falls inside. The oil is really thick and hard to squeeze out. Almost impossible if it's cold. I recommend sitting your oil inside overnight if it's cold out. If it's summer let it sit in the sun for a hour. It's to thick sitting in the store with temperature control A/C. Regular driving, change it every 3-5 years.I go off roading and work those gears hard, I change mine every spring. Before recycling my old oil I like to use it to bring life back into my hand tools like crescent wrenches and channel locks. I use a flat shovel in the winter so I rub it on my shovel so come winter time snow doesn't stick to it. I also use it on the hinges of my shed doors. I heard you can pour it around your foundation to prevent termites. Keep in mind, diff oil stinks bad.
Very good video. Nice job. Very cleaning job. I like 100% good
Nice job. I have to do mine once the temp stays over 55.. lol nice video, well done, keep up the good work.
What's the model of the drill you are using .?
Good job bro. You have teacher qualities. This will help me put on my new Rear Diff cover that I won at Florida Jeep Jam in June 2020.
Pro-Teks Power Washing and Wood Care LLC lol thank you ! And that’s awesome I’m glad I could help
I love Brake Cleaner.
How many of those bottles did you use?
You should add that you need to just hand tighten the bolts and allow the gasket maker to harden for an hour, then tighten the bolts to spec. I did my truck the same way you did and I keep getting a leak. Even the package that the gasket maker comes in says to hand tighten for X amount of time then tighten bolt to the recommended torque!
Jacob D that’s exactly what he did he said it in the video
Very well done! I love that you sped up some parts of the video. Peppy music would be fun during those moments. :-) I'd recommend scarping off the old gasket material before cleaning, so if you get little gasket pieces inside they will get flushed out when you clean with brake fluid.
I’d also suggest using a plastic scraper rather than a metal one to reduce the chance of potential nicks to the case.
Do you change it 30,000 miles or before that ?
I’m getting ready to do this job. The only question I have is why wouldn’t you use a gasket along with the gasket RTV?
Tim Cole the reason why I wouldn’t is because now you’re allowing for tinny air bubbles and gaps which the oil can get into
good video, but you forgot to torque the bolts to the specifications or wait 24hrs before you add the fluid. Unless that gasket maker is different.
What about a fitted gasket as opposed to the tube based gasket ? Also, should you wait an hour or so for the gasket to set ?
Paul Amarante Those are good as well I just feel a little safer with making my own
I just talk about don’t use any brake fluid on the differential ???
Wouldn't lazy way to do it be through the drain plug? JK diffs have a drain hole on the bottom. Remove the plug and drain oil. Put the plug back in. Remove the upper filler plug and pour petrol. Close the plug and rotate wheels for couple minutes. remove both plugs and drain everything. Leave both plugs removed to let everything dry, or also put pressurized air through for several minutes. Put the lower plug and fill up. Put the upper plug back on and call it a day.
GOOD VIDEO, I WOULD USE PAD UNDERNEATH THE COVER WHILE CLEANING IT TO AVOID SCRATCHES AGAINST BRICK
Petr Blazek you’re right now I know for next time thank you
Lol, those covers get bounced off rocks and what not else when off-road. I personally paint mine after doing the service but that’s up to you.
Is it necessary to fully remove the diff. cover itself? I've seen other videos where they just use the drain and fill plugs only...
You don’t have to, but it’s better because you can get all the nasty grime you can’t see
thanks. I think I can do this.
Is the front diff more-or-less the same process? My front differential breather hose blew out of the diff somehow and blew oil out. Just noticed it today while changing engine oil. Plugged the hose back in but I want to take the differential cover off just to see if there’s any damage. Advice? Thanks in advance.
Ryno H it’s the same process just make sure you put the right amount of oil that corresponds to the diff
very nice!
Good video
i have a 2014 jeep grand only 19000 miles when should i change my diff oil can i reg place do it or go to the dealer i like ur video
tony, may honestly It depends how you drive the Jeep second it’s up to you, the dealer charges a lot to change the fluid, it’s cheaper if you do it at home
@@PhatJeepsvideos thanks
Can you do a transfer case fluid change video. Thanks
Simple drain and fill.
Very cool
In 2017, if your 2017 window sticker said Dana 44 Heavy Duty axle but doesnt say limited slip or Trac-loc, does that definitely mean you dont need the additive? Is it a problem to use synthetic with the additive anyway? Thanks
Christine & Chris Abdow good question, honestly it wouldn’t be a problem, it also depends how you’re using the Jeep, now that I’m running bigger wheels I’m going to go up in Weight I’m going to use 75w140
Ok sounds good. Thanks!
Is the process the same for the front differential? My front differential is beginning to leak on my Wrangler
JR Lopez yes it is
You make it look easy. What's the reason this is so expensive to have done at a shop?
It's always labor. Generally a good rule-of-thumb is $100 per hour charged to you.
Thanks bro
nice job kid
thanks pal
Good job, probably don't need that much RTV.
Good job bro .
Think Clear thank you !
Phat Jeeps hope to see more videos bro . I’m new to this Jeep thing just learning new stuff as I go .
Think Clear that’s awesome welcome to the family, stay tune for more videos!
Great video! How do you feel about the ARB's Differential Covers! Do you recommend them?
KEN MUSTAAFA yes I do !!
You don't let the new gasket to dry before to put oil?
Yes !!! Depends on what the gasket recommends
About how often would you suggested to change the differential fluid? I was told by the dealership every 30,000 miles on a 2 door 2017 Jeep Wrangler. Appreciate the feedback bro. This look simple, I should just do it myself!
Zachary Spiva yes you can do it your self and you’ll save lots of money, it’s honestly how you drive the jeep I know people that do it every 30,000 or 15,000
Interesting. I’m not sure how to determine based on driving but I am at 35,000 miles!😬
I just did it after 100k miles no problem and my gears ⚙️ were perfect 👌
knows anybody what a type of diferential have jeep wrangler? name or other history
For 4x4 JK and JKU (2007-2018 models), which is the one on this video, the rear differentials are Dana 44. I hope that helps with your question.
Thanks
I want to remove the cover next time, I’ve just done drain and fills, but removing gives you the opportunity to “deep clean”. I’ll use a lubelocker though, especially while I am still under Powertrain warranty in case the diff gears need replacement.
Removing the cover allows you to inspect your gears and really clean it out. I do it every time
@@vigilantemotors yes, on my 2010 Rubicon, I also want to take off the sway bar module and take it apart, clean out any contaminants and regrease it. I’ve heard many have done this type of service and actually got it operational again and also do it for preventative maintenance.
@@queensapphire7717 Are you talking about your front sway bar?
Or rear sway bar?
@@queensapphire7717 Also be careful with those modules as they are quite expensive to replace.
How you do your exhaust?
Rey Sanatra I’m going to making a video soon, muffler delete and install
Nice torque specs 😄
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Now what you wanna do.... is scrape the diff cover on the brick driveway...
You didnt add the tools that you use in the comments.
Probably OK to use brake cleaner. I would still open the drain plug and let it drain thourougthly and dry. Badabing!
How did you dispose of the old oil?
Anywhere I take mine they just pry it open a little and let it run out then just refill it
mralapenosarespicy Which should tell you they aren’t doing it properly ;)
Point of note. You should wait 24-48 hours before driving to allow the gasket to fully cure.
Just one quarter is enough?
2 quarts per pumpkin.
No Amsoil ? cmon
I wouldn't recommend brake cleaner inside the diff. There is no way you can get it all out of there. Now you have fresh oil and brake cleaner inside the diff. That reaidual brake cleaner is just destroying that new oil.
Brake cleaner is an organic compound designed to dissolve other organic compounds similar to it. Organic compounds simply dissolve other organic compounds in to solution without changing their properties like, say, acids do. So breaking down the gear oil is not an issue, especially if you also take care to wipe as much of the brake cleaner out of the diff before adding the new gear oil. Also, the tiny amount of brake cleaner compared to the large volume of gear oil makes this a non-issue.
I was wondering this myself. Would seem like a good idea. Some say that it might prevent the oil from bonding to the gears inside -- which is really what you want to happen for proper cooling and less wear and tear. I am not an expert on it.
Use gasoline instead
Brake parts cleaner is a solvent, so more than likely, whatever little amount of it, not picked up by the cleaning rags, would have evaporated by the time he finished making the gasket and installing the cover back up. If you really want to make sure you got it all, you can blow air with a compressor before closing it back up.
@@abnpthfdr2934 This.
PHAT JEEPS
You saved me $200
Matthew Rosales I’m glad i helped !!
USE A PLASTIC SCRAPER!! Much less chance at damaging the surface!
Also there is definitely a drain plug. I saw it under the diff. Absolutely no reason to take the cover off to drain the diff.
While it is true that you can DRAIN the fluid by removing the plug, you can't get out all the junk and gunk without taking the cover off. And removing the cover and replacing the seal is no big deal and doesn't cost much at all. If you want to do it right, do it this young man's way. Otherwise, you're leaving a bunch of crap inside the differential to mix with your nice clean oil. But, hey, if that's your standard, more power to you.
Clark s you shouldn't work on any thing you have some striped gears in you're pumpkin
At the beginning of the video, he pointed out the drain and fill plugs and clearly stated that it could be done using them, but that he wanted to show how to do it by taking the cover off. I personally would take the cover off and do a thorough inspection and cleaning of the area.
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Hugo Jimenez it did 😂😂
lol he uses a scraper the size of the diff cover, better to use a razor blade next time.
Appreciate it !
Nice way you talking 😉
Those poor bricks. Lol. Jesus
Anyone else extremely triggered when he started scraping that gasket off on the brick driveway
Dylan Smith yea I messed up there now I know for next time
Too much RTV other than that good job
Brake cleaner is a bad idea
How come ?
@@PhatJeepsvideos Brake clean will take all the oil off the bearings and it will run dry for 1/4 mile or so.
It is foolish to spray a solvent into an oiled assembly. The detergents in the oil will keep the parts clean if you change the oil often enough. Brake cleaner will only break down the oils ability to lubricate!!!!