Ya Deku breaking the second law of motion and ignoring inertia is crazy And Stars and Stripes placing that tier fighter at 2.02 times lightning (she’s not lightspeed but that is insanely fast) or 969,600km/h in combat speed and it would be around 96,960km/h in travel speed is actually nuts So anyone faster than Stars and Stripes should be above massively hypersonic in combat speed and high hypersonic+ in travel speed For context the ISS moves at 28,000km/h and that’s the size of a pitch if that were to whiz past you right now (assuming it didn’t set the air on fire and level everything in the range of a city block) you literally wouldn’t see it like you’re eyes physically cannot process information that fast
@@mrducky6322 not really. It just means he could come to stop in an instant or change directions at what ever angle he chooses without inertia being an issue.
I’m hoping they make Deku and Shigaraki equal in power once Shigaraki gets his quirks back. This fight has been built up since the beginning of the series and I don’t want it to be one sided in favor of either one of them. Just an equal fight that keeps us on the edge of our seats and is so close that either one of them could win it.
@@richardvalentine5224 the current fight in the manga is nowhere near close, Deku is completely dominating Shigaraki. But should he get his quirks back the fight should be even
Doctor quite literally says during the fight that Shigaraki isn't as quite as strong as all might. Not sure if this is an anime only addition, however it is said. When we get to the Apex form of Shigaraki though I agree, he's definitely much stronger than prime All Might.
He isn't as strong as all might yet, even deku' 100% isn't anywhere near all mights 100% yet either. When all might was versing all for one in the anime he was nowhere near 100% either and none of the characters are close to that level of strong also
@@wolimoli Deku already matched 100% All Might when he first fought Shigaraki and with 45% + Fa Jin, Deku with 100% + Fa Jin + Gear Shift is far beyond that Keep in mind even if Shigaraki was 75% of All Might’s strength back then All Might is all stats no hax. AFO needed stat buffs (part of his hax) to match All Might’s stats, but Shigaraki is naturally that strong and has to a of hax as well
(MANGA SPOILERS AHEAD) Deku seems really powerful to where now he can use all of his quirks at once to where he can be mistaken for a villain or Nomu like in his vigilante arc. Deku can now -Use spider-sense -Use energy tendrils based on emotion -Use a smokescreen -Float in the air -Control the trajectory of objects and quite possibly (according to another video) that he can alter his cells as well -He can release a burst of energy and speed So if he combines the second’s quirk (Gearshift) and Fajin, Deku is a powerhouse and legit unstoppable..
It’s depends on how strong you believe all might was like even weakened ( like vs the first nomu) all might was on demon time like changing the weather with punches . If you believe his prime he was a little bit stronger then if anything it’s a more fair fight for the both of them.( I personally believe his prime he was a lot stronger especially when it’s known he’s basically on 72 hour shifts of just fighting off dangers literally everywhere. I believe if you put the season one all might in the current arc the series would be over.( I’m saying him and deku would cause the series to be over)
@@royjones0824 okay, that's just bias. At that time he would've been the strongest but where Deku is now puts him far above All Might in terms of power and especially speed.
SPOILER WARNING: I do believe Star & Stripes vs Shigaraki is a top teir fight in MHA, my personal favorite is Midoriya vs Lady Nagant. The fight immediately started off with one of the most badass things you can give to a character, the “flea on sight” rule. Similar to Minato in the 3rd Great Ninja War Hawks told Midoriya not to engage her at all if confronted by her. And we are also given Lady Nagant’s backstory that’s arguably the most morally complex story in the manga! Oh ya and the fight itself will have you spazzing from it’s awesomeness!
I'm noticing... all for one is very madara like with shiggy being obito. If I'm following the trend of the war arc then bakugo "dying" , Dekus going to die as well. With both coming back to take on all for one while saving shiggy.
Strength and speed that matches or surpasses high end Nomu's, Regeneration, AFO's arsenal that most likely includes further strength enhancing quirks, Shigaraki's own skill and Decay. Yeah nobody in the series could ever hope to match all that.
They seriously need to kill this guy at the end of the series. He is a walking calamity. There's no keeping him in tartarus, there's no redeeming him, and if they rewind him back to kid form, i honestly feel like that's worse than just killing him
No bro, Prime All might is another animal. Yes shiggy was compared to All might in strength by heroes but those same heroes couldn't notice that All Might was weaker and The doctor in the same scene that shiggy isn't quite like All might. The missile weren't nuclear. Yes Shiggy took one blow from 100% Deku while Quirkless, it was the one he took on the his teeth then he had his regeneration Quirk. but we all know that 100% Deku was weaker than 100% All might. 100% All might while being weaker could change the weather with one punch. Deku needed 3 punches to knock out Muscular. All might said that in his prime he could've beat the nomu with 5 punches instead 300. That means that he 60 times stronger. Now imagine all did times 60. Prime All Might fought Prime AFO who all those Quirks, alone with no aditional Quirks like Deku and no Eraser to nerf his opponent and he won *twice* . *Shiggy is a beast but All Might is a monster.*
The problem is if Shigaraki has his quirks, All Might can't even touch him without getting decayed because of the finger armor. And any air blasts All Might makes with his punches get blocked by Air Cannon or negated by Regeneration.
@@threes_leaves Decay is the only game changer here. Prime AFO had air canon and regeneration and All might won so it's not that big of a deal for him.especially since nomu have the regeneration too and weakned All Might stated that in his prime he could've deal with him in five punches. Deku 45% was fast enough to punch Shiggy before he could use Decay to attack shoto and Endeavor was able to land multiple blow to shiggy while avoiding Deca before Aizawa shows up and nerfed shiggy. Prime All might is faster than both of them so he can outspeed him and reach him and he avoid the large spread Decay. All might got this.
@@sgcastle8389 Shigaraki was stated to be stronger, faster, and more durable then prime All might. These statements are said entirely by reliable sources since all of them are people who have studied or people who fought along side all might in his prime. Also the attack was nuclear when they were put all together. Most nukes can destroy a little more than a city. However the explosion Stars was big enough to be seen in Japan from America (at least near America). And all of these statements of him being stronger were while Shigaraki was quirkless. Shigaraki wins
@@the_smartguy8128 The statements you're talking about doesn't exist! he was stated to be *"comparable"* to All might by heroes who didn't noticed that All might was weaker for 5 years. The doctor however in the same scene, who built shiggy and Was there with AFO since day one stated that his body *wasn't quite like All might or as strong as all might but close* . Shiggy is weaker than All might and Prime All might was even crazier. The missile weren't nuclear they cruise missiles not nukes and the explosion (that shiggy barely took because he was decaying the ground tonrun away) wasn't visible from japon to America, only by Endeavor who was near by.
@@sgcastle8389 1. You’re referring to the first war I’m talking about the second war were. Jeanist, Shigaraki, and someone else had stated Shigaraki had some kind of stat that was stronger than prime all might. It’s made clear many times in the second war that Shigaraki is stronger than prime might. 2. The nukes by itself weren’t nuke level. However all of them together made an explosion on the size of a island. Also Endeavor was in Japan so therefore the explosion was seen from Japan to America.
Again! You've done it again and have made an amazing video. You've got my sub already. This video is definitely getting my like and here's the comment. Keep the videos coming man I love them!!!
@@DrixMaloneDFS I don't mean this in a rude way at all but I'm not sure why you're questioning or asking me to explain why I love anything but I will humor you. When you're watching a video by most RUclipsrs, it's hard to relate to them because a lot of them see it as a job, and I'm not sure I don't know this RUclipsr personally but the way he explains the animes that I love like a hunterXhunter, YuYu, or MHA. As he's explaining all these different types of anime, it's almost like listening to a friend explain a point that you missed so when you go back and rewatch said anime, instead of watching it with your eyes squinted, I can watch it with a lot more interest because I know certain things that aren't put in the anime because I'm not a manga reader. I am an anime only for the most part again I don't know him, but he seems like a really awesome person who is super down to earth who threw his videos from what he said has the same interest as I do as far as video games and anime is concerned. Also, not just that, but have you watched his videos the amount of research that goes in as well as editing into the videos which there hasn't been one video that I haven't laughed in the middle of because he's comical as well all along there's certain RUclipsrs that you can just feel that are, enjoying what they do so I don't have to try to enjoy it happens naturally.
@@DrixMaloneDFS apologies for the long response. It just does something to me chemically when I feel like someone's coming after me because of my interest.
Prime all might when he was in America is still waaaay stronger than current deku. If PRIME all might fought current shigaraki??? Shigaraki would lose just based off of his battle competency and the fact that prime all might would still be faster and stronger.
Idk if you’re caught up to the manga, but Deku quite literally stomps prime all might. I’m not even a deku tard either, that’s been explicitly stated and shown
@VideoGamesAreCool I'm caught up i just think prime all might would wreck deku even with his hax. When deku gets older then I'm certain he would beat all might with ease.
Lmao deku still beats all might. Current Shigaraki was stated to be on prime all might’s level. And even after that he got another power up, and this current Deku completely no diffed Shigaraki. There’s nothing Prime all might can do against deku, he couldn’t even tag him. Keep in mind, Deku willingly got hit by Shigaraki, who’s stronger than prime all might, and took 0 damage. Then he completely speed blitzed him like it was nothing, moving so fast that not even Shiggy himself could comprehend what was going on, moving so fast that his movements were warping physics around him. Then he blew a hole in Shiggy’s chest. Deku is definitely stronger than prime all might no question
I wish we seen more heroes from the states if I’m not mistaken they mentioned other countries quirk users are on average much stronger because AFO wasn’t taking OP powers
I love your content and I am excited to have this debate. For the "Is he stronger than PEAK All Might" question, I propose a challenge. All Might has not gone all out in an attempt to simply kill, at least I don't think so. But if we look at how his strength is calculated, his punches VAPORIZED CONCRETE and his speed has been calculated to be absolutely bonkers. Full power All Might, idk, vaporize concrete is a nutty feat. I wonder if he landed a few 100% punches how well would shigaraki hold up.
@@hunter7593 Sorry for late reply. It is. For clarity, I am simply a fan boy and love discussions like this, so me challenging the point isn't personal but strictly for the fun of it. All that out the way, "all out" when beating AFO the first time, do we know if that means that his intent was to kill or to subdue? I think that could be a factor but yeah you have a good point. Is Shigaraki capable of beating past AFO in a 1v1? There are a lot of feats that he has that surpass AFO but I wonder about the mental game.
If I'm not mistaken though the reason all might was injured in the first place was because it lost focus for a moment when battling afo which is why he got injured if this is accurate it heavily implies that prime all might was a good amount stronger then afo up until her got hurt
I'd like to add that in manga canon, Deku dislocated and completely broke Shigiraki's jaw. The anime is just trying to keep it PG13 which is why it looks like Shigiraki caught Deku's arm which is inaccurate.
Shout out to Eric Vale 🙌 👏 ❤ 💪 💙 (Tomura Shigaraki) and also Justin Briner, Christopher R.Sabat, Luci Christian, Ricco Fajardo, Zeno Robinson, Colleen Clinkenbeard.
Boy Stop it! PAY ATTENTION!! They said that Shigaraki was *AS STRONG AS* All Might. Not stronger. The upgrade process wasn't complete when the heros storm the hospital.
Yeah, I honestly don't think so, I think people jump up on the rope way too soon, I would love to do a video with about that, but I recommend people to read more about Mha vigilantes because we see a bit of prime all might casually
About Fajin or however you spell it I'm wondering if it's similar to the Kaioken but watered down since using it with the addition of his other quirks is comparable to his 100% strength. I think I need that quirk explained better so I can understand it better
It's basically a temporary boost in speed and power with energy that has been stored from lets say, repeated punches and not a multiplier in the way Kaioken works. Kaioken works by it being a temporary multiplier to speed and power but can be used continuously until to run out of power. It pretty much boils down to: -Fajin is a burst of speed and power. -Kaioken is a continuous boost in speed and power.
Think Fatgum's quirk, but instead of tanking damage and releasing it, Fajin builds up by continuous kinetic actions before it unleashes, and builds again.
@@riversan90 almost sounds like the pokemon move bide lol but after y'alls explanation I see now that Fajin really isn't that great after all but in it's own universe it's actually just decent. Makes me wonder how thing's would've played out if all might was able to use One For All's quirks instead just the raw power
Fajin feels similar to Yang’s semblance in RWBY except Fajin doesn’t allow the user to deal double the damage that they would normally do. Or Adam’s semblance to where all of the attacks are built up inside of his sword, and then release it with a one-shot-one-kill strike
Shigaraki is too powerful without using his quirks he defeated every single hero in manga If he some how gets out of That U.A barrier then he would be unstoppable he has like 30 to 40 quirks Deku would be no match for Shigaraki
He capped about the deku thing because deku’s one for all is equivalent to the one for all allmight had when he gave it to him though that he has one hundred percent of it he can now start cultivating it to the point where it’s at prime Allmight’s level and then finally making the power stronger but he’s not there yet. For the allmight vs allforshigaraki it is stated many times that quirkless allforshigaraki is as strong as prime allmight so adding all for one on top of that would obviously make him stronger that’s like saying all for one is stronger than allmight when allmight was still quirkless. That’s an objective fact
I don't really read much manga love hearing what happened in it though but I am caught up to the anime season 6 has been quite a ride so far just started getting into your channel we've commander and I am liking it
Shigaraki is a shit Villain and I don't care what anyone says, he's getting the Madara treatment. "Let's just give him all of the plot armor and every ability and see what happens." He's not even bad because of this either, he wasn't a compelling character to begin with.
It was stated that Deku actually surpassed 100% to 120% Deku Smash so he is a stronger than All Might. Funny that those who can use OFA at max power are quirkless 🤔
so, one detail to comment on. dr. garaki states that shiggy isn't as strong as all might. he's close, but he isn't quite there, and the reason is because he has a whole host of upgrades, including the all for one quirk, not just upgrades to his raw physical strength.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 nope, the only person claiming that is shigaraki, who says he has power "which rivals all might's", meaning he is comparable to all might. no statement on "prime" anything and no indication that he's actually physically as strong as all might while quirkless. he makes up for that lack of strength in other ways, but no spoilers here.
@@Yal_Rathol he stated that he’s as durable and as strong as prime all might in the manga and this is before he goes into his apex form and he’s quirkless rival mean the equivalent so he’s on par with prime all might without quirks
@@Yal_Rathol he does when takami fires off his laser he states “do you really think this would hurt all might in his prime” at this point shigiraki and deku are ona a new level it wouldn’t make sense to have them weaker than prime all might and afo now in the end game anyways shigiraki multiple times states hes at prime all might level just in his finger form in his apex he’s even stronger than before mind you without quirks and boost
Speaking of the power of friendship, in the hypothetical scenario where Deku shares One For All with his classmates (Similar to when he shared it with Bakugo in the "Two Heroes" Film), how fucked would Shigaraki be?
Insanely screwed he would lose instantly bakugo matched a injured deku after having it for a single minute so after one minute all of class 1a could one shot a zero pointer and three shot muscular.
The taking 100% smash argument from deku is a poor one though. 100% of deku's one for all is not the same as 100% of prime all mights one for all. It's like a child hitting you with 100% and an adult hitting you with 100% different ball games. Not saying that prime all might beats shigaraki ATM, but he easily beats deku.
When Aizawa was erasing his quirks, his body was still so naturally strong that it compared to all might. The doctor genetically modified Shigaraki’s body just like he does the nomu, making their base strength immense. So even when Shigaraki has his quirks turned off, he’s still almost as strong as all might. Regeneration is one of the quirks he has
@@delaware5407 no. His regeneration is a quirk. His super strength isn’t. He doesn’t regenerate when his quirks are turned off but he’s still naturally durable because of his body modifications
SPOILER Star should never have been written because in any actual fight, if there is no plot armor would kill shigaraki, but she can't cause she's not the main character. She is the very definition of a jobber. She only existed to die and stall shigarakis other quirks, but like the same thing could be accomplished by having him spend time in the tube.
what if and i know would never happen for plot reasons but what if all might used ari to rewind and help fight , it might not be long be they could be a distraction for getting the hurt out and give deku open field to go all out but is that possible
@@delaware5407 He's not, we've never seen pre injury, actual prime Allmight. Deku may have access to the previous holder's quirks but that doesn't imply he's currently surpassed prime Allmight in power.
I don’t agree with the claim that Shigaraki is at 3/4ths of his true potential. The remaining 25% was only there to ensure he came back at full power and alive, not to give him more power.
Spoiler Star missed her opportunity by not saying “if any thing living takes my quirk it will disappear completely” Unless this is going against the “she has to touch it and say the name” rule. Let me know
In my eyes, prime all might will be the best brawler (raw power/speed), only surpassed by Deku and potentially the "final form" shigaraki that we have yet to see. But we all know a fight can't be relied only in raw power and speed, that has been the case for Deku too and Shigaraki, if the opponent has hax in his arsenal or good counters, then that raw power and speed can only get you so far. This is like mirko lacking the raw power to tango with the big boys now, but he has speed and hacks at his disposal. Deku has more quirks for a reason, he will display the equivalent to, perhaps surpass prime all might, on top of a mastery of the other quirks from past users. For me, the most logical conclusion is this, Deku will surpass all might in his prime, he is the successor afterall, also quirkless. The growth in OFA was probably expanded big time by all might because he was quirkless. If there was another quirkless user after Deku, then that user should have even more potential than Deku, because OFA had further growth, and the samething would happen again. In the end it makes sense for this to be the reality for Deku, he is in a much smaller body than prime all might. Also has less time with OFA. Shigaraki should stomp prime all might in every field but raw power and speed. This does not make prime all might better than shigaraki of course.
How? Deku is only using a small percentage of OFA and although he had lots of timely help, he had no more help than Shiguraki did and this boy .... still kicked the living ish out of Shiguraki. So no, Shiguraki can't beat Prime All Might. Not yet! And Deku only says he is using 100% smash, but instead he is using float to make him weigh less while using Blackwhip and Fa-Jin as force multipliers to deliver a Faux 100% smash that is actually according to Bakugo, around 40% max last I checked.
Mha is starting to get crazy characters are starting to have reality and laws of physics bending powers like deku and other people kinda crazy
Reallity breaking is overrated in MHA. Especially with Deku
Like it grew up and became a real anime. Gotta have some reality bending in anime fights 😁
Ya Deku breaking the second law of motion and ignoring inertia is crazy
And Stars and Stripes placing that tier fighter at 2.02 times lightning (she’s not lightspeed but that is insanely fast) or 969,600km/h in combat speed and it would be around 96,960km/h in travel speed is actually nuts
So anyone faster than Stars and Stripes should be above massively hypersonic in combat speed and high hypersonic+ in travel speed
For context the ISS moves at 28,000km/h and that’s the size of a pitch if that were to whiz past you right now (assuming it didn’t set the air on fire and level everything in the range of a city block) you literally wouldn’t see it like you’re eyes physically cannot process information that fast
@@mrducky6322 not really. It just means he could come to stop in an instant or change directions at what ever angle he chooses without inertia being an issue.
@@rivolverocelot3010 They grow up so fast 🥲
Shigaraki didn't catch Deku's 100% smash with his mouth, Deku broke his jaw.
The frustration I'm feeling from wanting to watch this full video (because they're always great), and not wanting to be spoiled is killing me...
Lmao I know right, I had to cut it off at 7:59 once he mentioned what Shigaraki is like in the manga (which is far ahead of the anime arc) smh.
I’m hoping they make Deku and Shigaraki equal in power once Shigaraki gets his quirks back. This fight has been built up since the beginning of the series and I don’t want it to be one sided in favor of either one of them. Just an equal fight that keeps us on the edge of our seats and is so close that either one of them could win it.
The fight is close and shiggy not using any quirks if he could use his quirks deku dies no cap
@@richardvalentine5224 the current fight in the manga is nowhere near close, Deku is completely dominating Shigaraki. But should he get his quirks back the fight should be even
@@ugp0978 Even he should be dominating when he is able to use his quirks again.
@@shadowslayer9988 Nah they would be even
Doctor quite literally says during the fight that Shigaraki isn't as quite as strong as all might. Not sure if this is an anime only addition, however it is said. When we get to the Apex form of Shigaraki though I agree, he's definitely much stronger than prime All Might.
He isn't as strong as all might yet, even deku' 100% isn't anywhere near all mights 100% yet either.
When all might was versing all for one in the anime he was nowhere near 100% either and none of the characters are close to that level of strong also
Damn if deku could use full cowl 100% with fajin & gear shift hed be moving/hittin at 240%? And hes already bending reality at 120%
@@wolimoli Deku already matched 100% All Might when he first fought Shigaraki and with 45% + Fa Jin, Deku with 100% + Fa Jin + Gear Shift is far beyond that
Keep in mind even if Shigaraki was 75% of All Might’s strength back then All Might is all stats no hax. AFO needed stat buffs (part of his hax) to match All Might’s stats, but Shigaraki is naturally that strong and has to a of hax as well
He was incomplete at the time. He got stronger
@@jocoolshow 45% + Fa Jin + Blackwhip equates to Faux 100%. Not just 45% + Fa Jin
(MANGA SPOILERS AHEAD)
Deku seems really powerful to where now he can use all of his quirks at once to where he can be mistaken for a villain or Nomu like in his vigilante arc.
Deku can now
-Use spider-sense
-Use energy tendrils based on emotion
-Use a smokescreen
-Float in the air
-Control the trajectory of objects and quite possibly (according to another video) that he can alter his cells as well
-He can release a burst of energy and speed
So if he combines the second’s quirk (Gearshift) and Fajin, Deku is a powerhouse and legit unstoppable..
Shigarakis plot armor against Stars and Stripes is legendary
He should’ve died from her tbh
@@Dead-mf1tf all FACTS
Man he should been dead
Almost as much as Sasuke vs Killer Bee
@@ethanwalters1322 yea plot saved him like 3 times in that fight
It’s depends on how strong you believe all might was like even weakened ( like vs the first nomu) all might was on demon time like changing the weather with punches . If you believe his prime he was a little bit stronger then if anything it’s a more fair fight for the both of them.( I personally believe his prime he was a lot stronger especially when it’s known he’s basically on 72 hour shifts of just fighting off dangers literally everywhere. I believe if you put the season one all might in the current arc the series would be over.( I’m saying him and deku would cause the series to be over)
Prime All Might was at least 20 times stronger than in the USJ incident
@@valkeitos at bare minimum 20 times stronger you gotta emphasize that and that’s why I’m saying all might was and still is the strongest of all MhA
@@valkeitos he was 60 times stronger. He said he could've beat nomu with 5 punches in his prime instead of 300.
@@sgcastle8389 my bad, i forgot it was 300 punches. Not 100😅
@@royjones0824 okay, that's just bias. At that time he would've been the strongest but where Deku is now puts him far above All Might in terms of power and especially speed.
“An angsty walking lotion advertisement” is crazy😂😂😂😂😂
Soooo close to 95% Keep up the great work. I’m rooting for ya!
Time out did he really accomplish that while quirkless. I’m pretty sure aizawa was unconscious
The way they portray the journey of the main protagonist and antagonist was done so masterfully.
was literally just watching a RUclips short from you and then you post 😌🙏🏻
Having 5 minutes in spoilers, NC hammer:no prob
Saying 1quirk : I would never
Right ! 😂like at this point u might as well tell us
SPOILER WARNING: I do believe Star & Stripes vs Shigaraki is a top teir fight in MHA, my personal favorite is Midoriya vs Lady Nagant.
The fight immediately started off with one of the most badass things you can give to a character, the “flea on sight” rule. Similar to Minato in the 3rd Great Ninja War Hawks told Midoriya not to engage her at all if confronted by her. And we are also given Lady Nagant’s backstory that’s arguably the most morally complex story in the manga!
Oh ya and the fight itself will have you spazzing from it’s awesomeness!
Mha been so 🔥🔥🔥 this season n shiggi is the best new gen villain
Comador use you're master brain, and teach us everything!!!
All heil weeb chief!!!
All might we witnessed is just nerfed, still being compared to all this evolution is just paying respect to how strong All Might is.
I'm noticing... all for one is very madara like with shiggy being obito.
If I'm following the trend of the war arc then bakugo "dying" , Dekus going to die as well.
With both coming back to take on all for one while saving shiggy.
Stars & Stripe was wasted so hard.
With her Quirk she absolutely should not have lost that fight.
All I know for sure is, that scarring/blood on his face looking like a domino mask is lowkey kinda dope.
Strength and speed that matches or surpasses high end Nomu's, Regeneration, AFO's arsenal that most likely includes further strength enhancing quirks, Shigaraki's own skill and Decay.
Yeah nobody in the series could ever hope to match all that.
This follows the Starkiller type of development in star wars. Just saying, might be worth looking at.
Totally appreciated the manga spoiler bar thanks man
Agree or Not AFO is a really good Manipulator he manipulated Shigaraki and is really a genius
They seriously need to kill this guy at the end of the series. He is a walking calamity. There's no keeping him in tartarus, there's no redeeming him, and if they rewind him back to kid form, i honestly feel like that's worse than just killing him
No bro, Prime All might is another animal. Yes shiggy was compared to All might in strength by heroes but those same heroes couldn't notice that All Might was weaker and The doctor in the same scene that shiggy isn't quite like All might.
The missile weren't nuclear.
Yes Shiggy took one blow from 100% Deku while Quirkless, it was the one he took on the his teeth then he had his regeneration Quirk. but we all know that 100% Deku was weaker than 100% All might. 100% All might while being weaker could change the weather with one punch. Deku needed 3 punches to knock out Muscular.
All might said that in his prime he could've beat the nomu with 5 punches instead 300. That means that he 60 times stronger. Now imagine all did times 60.
Prime All Might fought Prime AFO who all those Quirks, alone with no aditional Quirks like Deku and no Eraser to nerf his opponent and he won *twice* .
*Shiggy is a beast but All Might is a monster.*
The problem is if Shigaraki has his quirks, All Might can't even touch him without getting decayed because of the finger armor. And any air blasts All Might makes with his punches get blocked by Air Cannon or negated by Regeneration.
@@threes_leaves Decay is the only game changer here. Prime AFO had air canon and regeneration and All might won so it's not that big of a deal for him.especially since nomu have the regeneration too and weakned All Might stated that in his prime he could've deal with him in five punches.
Deku 45% was fast enough to punch Shiggy before he could use Decay to attack shoto and Endeavor was able to land multiple blow to shiggy while avoiding Deca before Aizawa shows up and nerfed shiggy. Prime All might is faster than both of them so he can outspeed him and reach him and he avoid the large spread Decay. All might got this.
@@sgcastle8389 Shigaraki was stated to be stronger, faster, and more durable then prime All might. These statements are said entirely by reliable sources since all of them are people who have studied or people who fought along side all might in his prime. Also the attack was nuclear when they were put all together. Most nukes can destroy a little more than a city. However the explosion Stars was big enough to be seen in Japan from America (at least near America). And all of these statements of him being stronger were while Shigaraki was quirkless. Shigaraki wins
@@the_smartguy8128 The statements you're talking about doesn't exist! he was stated to be *"comparable"* to All might by heroes who didn't noticed that All might was weaker for 5 years. The doctor however in the same scene, who built shiggy and Was there with AFO since day one stated that his body *wasn't quite like All might or as strong as all might but close* . Shiggy is weaker than All might and Prime All might was even crazier.
The missile weren't nuclear they cruise missiles not nukes and the explosion (that shiggy barely took because he was decaying the ground tonrun away) wasn't visible from japon to America, only by Endeavor who was near by.
@@sgcastle8389 1. You’re referring to the first war I’m talking about the second war were. Jeanist, Shigaraki, and someone else had stated Shigaraki had some kind of stat that was stronger than prime all might. It’s made clear many times in the second war that Shigaraki is stronger than prime might. 2. The nukes by itself weren’t nuke level. However all of them together made an explosion on the size of a island. Also Endeavor was in Japan so therefore the explosion was seen from Japan to America.
Love the video and keep up the great work nick
Again! You've done it again and have made an amazing video. You've got my sub already. This video is definitely getting my like and here's the comment. Keep the videos coming man I love them!!!
What do you love about this video and his other videos specifically??
@@DrixMaloneDFS I don't mean this in a rude way at all but I'm not sure why you're questioning or asking me to explain why I love anything but I will humor you. When you're watching a video by most RUclipsrs, it's hard to relate to them because a lot of them see it as a job, and I'm not sure I don't know this RUclipsr personally but the way he explains the animes that I love like a hunterXhunter, YuYu, or MHA. As he's explaining all these different types of anime, it's almost like listening to a friend explain a point that you missed so when you go back and rewatch said anime, instead of watching it with your eyes squinted, I can watch it with a lot more interest because I know certain things that aren't put in the anime because I'm not a manga reader. I am an anime only for the most part again I don't know him, but he seems like a really awesome person who is super down to earth who threw his videos from what he said has the same interest as I do as far as video games and anime is concerned. Also, not just that, but have you watched his videos the amount of research that goes in as well as editing into the videos which there hasn't been one video that I haven't laughed in the middle of because he's comical as well all along there's certain RUclipsrs that you can just feel that are, enjoying what they do so I don't have to try to enjoy it happens naturally.
@@DrixMaloneDFS apologies for the long response. It just does something to me chemically when I feel like someone's coming after me because of my interest.
That scene where he leveled half the city was legit af animated
Prime all might when he was in America is still waaaay stronger than current deku. If PRIME all might fought current shigaraki??? Shigaraki would lose just based off of his battle competency and the fact that prime all might would still be faster and stronger.
Idk if you’re caught up to the manga, but Deku quite literally stomps prime all might. I’m not even a deku tard either, that’s been explicitly stated and shown
@VideoGamesAreCool I'm caught up i just think prime all might would wreck deku even with his hax. When deku gets older then I'm certain he would beat all might with ease.
Lmao deku still beats all might. Current Shigaraki was stated to be on prime all might’s level. And even after that he got another power up, and this current Deku completely no diffed Shigaraki. There’s nothing Prime all might can do against deku, he couldn’t even tag him. Keep in mind, Deku willingly got hit by Shigaraki, who’s stronger than prime all might, and took 0 damage. Then he completely speed blitzed him like it was nothing, moving so fast that not even Shiggy himself could comprehend what was going on, moving so fast that his movements were warping physics around him. Then he blew a hole in Shiggy’s chest. Deku is definitely stronger than prime all might no question
I wish we seen more heroes from the states if I’m not mistaken they mentioned other countries quirk users are on average much stronger because AFO wasn’t taking OP powers
I love your content and I am excited to have this debate.
For the "Is he stronger than PEAK All Might" question, I propose a challenge. All Might has not gone all out in an attempt to simply kill, at least I don't think so.
But if we look at how his strength is calculated, his punches VAPORIZED CONCRETE and his speed has been calculated to be absolutely bonkers.
Full power All Might, idk, vaporize concrete is a nutty feat. I wonder if he landed a few 100% punches how well would shigaraki hold up.
@@hunter7593 Sorry for late reply.
It is. For clarity, I am simply a fan boy and love discussions like this, so me challenging the point isn't personal but strictly for the fun of it.
All that out the way, "all out" when beating AFO the first time, do we know if that means that his intent was to kill or to subdue? I think that could be a factor but yeah you have a good point.
Is Shigaraki capable of beating past AFO in a 1v1? There are a lot of feats that he has that surpass AFO but I wonder about the mental game.
If I'm not mistaken though the reason all might was injured in the first place was because it lost focus for a moment when battling afo which is why he got injured if this is accurate it heavily implies that prime all might was a good amount stronger then afo up until her got hurt
This manga sound amazing !! This a show i wanted to watch anime only , but after hearing this I’m reading the manga !!
Correction Shigiraki is not at 75% of his power his body is only 75% complete.
0:05 lol nice
I'd like to add that in manga canon, Deku dislocated and completely broke Shigiraki's jaw. The anime is just trying to keep it PG13 which is why it looks like Shigiraki caught Deku's arm which is inaccurate.
theres nothing more powerful than the main character, other than another main character
The jaw catching thing was a censorship in the anime, bro got his jaw ripped off in the manga
Shout out to Eric Vale 🙌 👏 ❤ 💪 💙 (Tomura Shigaraki) and also Justin Briner, Christopher R.Sabat, Luci Christian, Ricco Fajardo, Zeno Robinson, Colleen Clinkenbeard.
Abuse will change a boy to MAN quickly I like the heroes way though how they get through through it 🎉
Can you make a video explaning and ranking all jojo antagonist? Please
Boy Stop it! PAY ATTENTION!! They said that Shigaraki was *AS STRONG AS* All Might. Not stronger. The upgrade process wasn't complete when the heros storm the hospital.
Yeah, I honestly don't think so, I think people jump up on the rope way too soon, I would love to do a video with about that, but I recommend people to read more about Mha vigilantes because we see a bit of prime all might casually
About Fajin or however you spell it I'm wondering if it's similar to the Kaioken but watered down since using it with the addition of his other quirks is comparable to his 100% strength. I think I need that quirk explained better so I can understand it better
It's basically a temporary boost in speed and power with energy that has been stored from lets say, repeated punches and not a multiplier in the way Kaioken works. Kaioken works by it being a temporary multiplier to speed and power but can be used continuously until to run out of power.
It pretty much boils down to:
-Fajin is a burst of speed and power.
-Kaioken is a continuous boost in speed and power.
Think Fatgum's quirk, but instead of tanking damage and releasing it, Fajin builds up by continuous kinetic actions before it unleashes, and builds again.
@@riversan90 almost sounds like the pokemon move bide lol but after y'alls explanation I see now that Fajin really isn't that great after all but in it's own universe it's actually just decent. Makes me wonder how thing's would've played out if all might was able to use One For All's quirks instead just the raw power
It’s better then Kaioken it does not tax his body & There’s no build up power limit like Kaioken too
Fajin feels similar to Yang’s semblance in RWBY except Fajin doesn’t allow the user to deal double the damage that they would normally do. Or Adam’s semblance to where all of the attacks are built up inside of his sword, and then release it with a one-shot-one-kill strike
Lmao bakugo really got another man inside him
Shigaraki is too powerful without using his quirks he defeated every single hero in manga If he some how gets out of That U.A barrier then he would be unstoppable he has like 30 to 40 quirks Deku would be no match for Shigaraki
More 100+ Quriks
@@moonl8536More 101+ Quriks
Love your vids
We all know he got to where he's at from playing ranked LoL
When stars and stripes is anime she will probably become a favorite character but then she loses her quirk
He capped about the deku thing because deku’s one for all is equivalent to the one for all allmight had when he gave it to him though that he has one hundred percent of it he can now start cultivating it to the point where it’s at prime Allmight’s level and then finally making the power stronger but he’s not there yet. For the allmight vs allforshigaraki it is stated many times that quirkless allforshigaraki is as strong as prime allmight so adding all for one on top of that would obviously make him stronger that’s like saying all for one is stronger than allmight when allmight was still quirkless. That’s an objective fact
Only current AFOmura has a chance of beating Prime All Might. Anime and SnS versions get stomped.
Can we get a all rankings of the league of villains
The biggest problem with shigiraki is not decay are even afo it’s that dam broken regeneration quirk he has that shit to op
This randomly popped up on my Feed so I had to comment. We haven’t even seen shigaraki “stomp” anyone of significance in MHA 😂😂😂😂
Lol yes we have on numerous occasions
Re-Destro???
@@ethanwalters1322 endeavor, ryukyu, Re Destro, Bakugo, Mirio, Nejire, Tamaki, pretty much everyone at UA
@@videogamesarecool2484 Don't forget multiple cities. Although I guess the commenter said "anyone", not "anything"
The number 7 hero in Japan*
I’d love to see orochimaru vs shigaraki. I feel like both just have the craziest hacks
Wait I thought the superhero rankings were purely for Japan I thought other countries have there own number 1 and etc
I don't really read much manga love hearing what happened in it though but I am caught up to the anime season 6 has been quite a ride so far just started getting into your channel we've commander and I am liking it
Shigaraki is a shit Villain and I don't care what anyone says, he's getting the Madara treatment. "Let's just give him all of the plot armor and every ability and see what happens." He's not even bad because of this either, he wasn't a compelling character to begin with.
It was stated that Deku actually surpassed 100% to 120% Deku Smash so he is a stronger than All Might. Funny that those who can use OFA at max power are quirkless 🤔
I would say funny I would say I can't believe that mirio had the best possible opening to get one for all and he didn't take it. It makes me sad...
I thought Aizawa could only erase one quirk
so, one detail to comment on. dr. garaki states that shiggy isn't as strong as all might. he's close, but he isn't quite there, and the reason is because he has a whole host of upgrades, including the all for one quirk, not just upgrades to his raw physical strength.
Incorrect. That was before Shigaraki was complete. Shigaraki is complete now. He’s stated to be Prime Might level.
@@extremelyboredtatsumaki.495 nope, the only person claiming that is shigaraki, who says he has power "which rivals all might's", meaning he is comparable to all might. no statement on "prime" anything and no indication that he's actually physically as strong as all might while quirkless.
he makes up for that lack of strength in other ways, but no spoilers here.
@@Yal_Rathol he stated that he’s as durable and as strong as prime all might in the manga and this is before he goes into his apex form and he’s quirkless rival mean the equivalent so he’s on par with prime all might without quirks
@@the3ptsniper307 no, again, he never said anything about prime.
@@Yal_Rathol he does when takami fires off his laser he states “do you really think this would hurt all might in his prime” at this point shigiraki and deku are ona a new level it wouldn’t make sense to have them weaker than prime all might and afo now in the end game anyways shigiraki multiple times states hes at prime all might level just in his finger form in his apex he’s even stronger than before mind you without quirks and boost
More mha anime content (no magna spoilers) would be great pls:D
Shigaraki is not physically prime all might level 💀 and why do people say Deku is? He’s like weakened all might level currently
Literally compared to Prime All Might in ch 362. Lol
So one for all is pretty much useless now since there is a surgery that can ake you as strong as prime all might
You know Shigaraki was basically tortured for 3 months just for all for one to control him, right?
Its ok some shonen bs is probably gonna happen like talk no jutsu
I'm pretty sure an Amaterasu would do the trick
Inner Shigi will revolt against rebirthed AFO and along with Deku and UA, will defeat AFO. The end. Calling it now.
Until I see prime All might in action I won't say yes
Speaking of the power of friendship, in the hypothetical scenario where Deku shares One For All with his classmates (Similar to when he shared it with Bakugo in the "Two Heroes" Film), how fucked would Shigaraki be?
Insanely screwed he would lose instantly bakugo matched a injured deku after having it for a single minute so after one minute all of class 1a could one shot a zero pointer and three shot muscular.
Let's get the breakdown of Kengan ashura next
One of the strongest characters if not strongest yet he like stealing capes
The taking 100% smash argument from deku is a poor one though. 100% of deku's one for all is not the same as 100% of prime all mights one for all. It's like a child hitting you with 100% and an adult hitting you with 100% different ball games. Not saying that prime all might beats shigaraki ATM, but he easily beats deku.
Only thing making him so OP is the decay quirk other then that others would stand a chance just saying 🤷🏽♂️
Can you do one on rurouni kenshin
I’m all caught up with the MHA manga. I need to finish Fire force so I can watch your videos on it next
I don’t understand the quirk-less part . Idk what you talkin about why is he quirk less but using regenerative quirks I’m confused
When Aizawa was erasing his quirks, his body was still so naturally strong that it compared to all might. The doctor genetically modified Shigaraki’s body just like he does the nomu, making their base strength immense. So even when Shigaraki has his quirks turned off, he’s still almost as strong as all might. Regeneration is one of the quirks he has
That's not a regenerative quirk, it's natural growth
@@delaware5407 no. His regeneration is a quirk. His super strength isn’t. He doesn’t regenerate when his quirks are turned off but he’s still naturally durable because of his body modifications
@@videogamesarecool2484 That's what I'm saying, he wasn't regenerating, it was naturalgroth and it was not a quirk
Strongest shigaraki vs strongest deku rn shigaraki wins because this is a shigaraki with no quirks he’s fighting against
Fax
A well placed bullet from a gun would STOMP all might.
Lol no, 45% Deku got shot by a sniper and it didn’t even penetrate his skin
Deku after taking a shot from Nagant's quirk like it was nothing: "A howitzer shot is nothing comparte to this"
Deku after taking a shot from Nagant's quirk like it was nothing: "A howitzer shot is nothing compared to this"
@@delaware5407 yet deku runs from gun fire in the movie with him and Bakugo fighting the guy with a shield around him.
@@funnyhowthingsturnout6186 And? It's pretty obvious, even if the Bullet doesn't damage you, you still get pushed by it
Dang, MHA finally has a character capable of beating Superman 😆
Is this that chess guy?
SPOILER
Star should never have been written because in any actual fight, if there is no plot armor would kill shigaraki, but she can't cause she's not the main character. She is the very definition of a jobber. She only existed to die and stall shigarakis other quirks, but like the same thing could be accomplished by having him spend time in the tube.
Where can you read the monga at?
Makes no sense All Might stomps All for one and Shigaraki is just a copy and he lost more than half his quirks after stars and stripes
what if and i know would never happen for plot reasons but what if all might used ari to rewind and help fight , it might not be long be they could be a distraction for getting the hurt out and give deku open field to go all out but is that possible
Love you nick
Yeah no way Shiggy is Prime All Might level.
He is
@@delaware5407 He's not, we've never seen pre injury, actual prime Allmight. Deku may have access to the previous holder's quirks but that doesn't imply he's currently surpassed prime Allmight in power.
@@josephfrancis3250 It has been stated Shigaraki is on prime all might level by Jeanist, All for one, Tsukauchi, Endeavor and All Might himself
Anime villain Mount Rushmore:
Shigaraki
Madara
Frieza
Blackbeard
30th day..
can you talk about Katekyo Hitman Reborn
(when you watch)
I don’t agree with the claim that Shigaraki is at 3/4ths of his true potential. The remaining 25% was only there to ensure he came back at full power and alive, not to give him more power.
Spoiler
Star missed her opportunity by not saying “if any thing living takes my quirk it will disappear completely”
Unless this is going against the “she has to touch it and say the name” rule. Let me know
Let's go
I hate that shigi wouldnt have defeated Stars if it wasnt for AFO being in control. Just makes me not like shigi over AFO.
Can you do class 1a ranked
More mha please
shigy bodies most people from other universes as long as they arent the mc
I don't understand how he has super strength and super speed without quirks.
1st An experiment
2nd Any character with quirk is stronger than a normal human, Endeavor could stop a truco with just one hand
1st An experiment 2nd Any character with quirk is stronger than a normal human, Endeavor could stop a truco with just one hand
In my eyes, prime all might will be the best brawler (raw power/speed), only surpassed by Deku and potentially the "final form" shigaraki that we have yet to see. But we all know a fight can't be relied only in raw power and speed, that has been the case for Deku too and Shigaraki, if the opponent has hax in his arsenal or good counters, then that raw power and speed can only get you so far. This is like mirko lacking the raw power to tango with the big boys now, but he has speed and hacks at his disposal.
Deku has more quirks for a reason, he will display the equivalent to, perhaps surpass prime all might, on top of a mastery of the other quirks from past users.
For me, the most logical conclusion is this, Deku will surpass all might in his prime, he is the successor afterall, also quirkless. The growth in OFA was probably expanded big time by all might because he was quirkless. If there was another quirkless user after Deku, then that user should have even more potential than Deku, because OFA had further growth, and the samething would happen again.
In the end it makes sense for this to be the reality for Deku, he is in a much smaller body than prime all might. Also has less time with OFA.
Shigaraki should stomp prime all might in every field but raw power and speed. This does not make prime all might better than shigaraki of course.
Also, ths experience of him as fighter, his control. He never gonna fatigue like Deku.
Deku need Fajin, gear shift to match the speed of Allmight
How? Deku is only using a small percentage of OFA and although he had lots of timely help, he had no more help than Shiguraki did and this boy .... still kicked the living ish out of Shiguraki. So no, Shiguraki can't beat Prime All Might. Not yet! And Deku only says he is using 100% smash, but instead he is using float to make him weigh less while using Blackwhip and Fa-Jin as force multipliers to deliver a Faux 100% smash that is actually according to Bakugo, around 40% max last I checked.