Exploring Warhammer 40k: Tzeentch, the Lord of Change
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All part of the plan
Big emps soul fragment , why do you look like a asian cartoon women
You know I get the distinct impression your being facetious or hyperbolic but knowing the 40k universe it’s more likely that accurate lmao.
Wind up kitten in attack mode!
@@azazelsiad3601 a bit of column A and bit of column B...
Tzeentch encourages his followers to work smarter, not harder. He's also such an incredibly potent god that he convinced an entire galaxy-spanning empire to try and counter him by working harder, not smarter.
_All according to plan._
This comment deserves more upvotes
In another reality Tzeentch is know by the name Aizen. sm
But wouldn't that then be effective?
Because Tzeentch is empowered by acts of cleverness and intelligence, but simply trying to push thru his bullshit instead of going down the winding paths he sets up, you are effectively doing the only thing that might hurt him. Not thinking.
There are of course those that choose to do both and constantly challenge themselves to newer and better ways of doing the job faster and better than before. That kind of dedication of course requires hard work to achieve. It would be one thing to say if these were mutually exclusive ideas but they are barely related actually.
Most of the time, he also likes making them perpetually chase hope (Ahriman) or pull the rug from under someone for the sake of breaking their flow. Tzeench is scheming and change for their own sake, because lasting order or contentment stop feeding him. So while magic and fate have the greatest potential of all the chaotic powers, its also the most volatile. Unlike Khorne's brutal straightforwardness, you should never trust Tzeench.
Understanding tzeentch is like understanding schizophrenia.
You understand it in an abstract sense and how to treat it. If you know it any better than that then you are actually experiencing it.
I enjoy what remains of my sanity, thus I do not seek further understanding.
Was it Richard Feynman who said "If you think you understand Tzeentch, you do not understand Tzeentch?"
Yeah having psychological problems suck. Ur mind will create some strange things as you try to function. Oh well.
It’s like dementia or any other mental illness. The mind plays tricks on itself as the human behind it decays.
🤔 Did that happen to Philip K. Dick?
My comment was deleted, F RUclips 🤬
An eldtrich god of chaos literally got robbed by Dorothy and Toto.
I'll get The Emperor and his little dog too
I was wondering about that. Such a weird funny bit.
It's actually a reference to the 1986 film Labyrinth
This is basically warhammer at its worst. Dumb fuck writers wanting to ham fist their favorite things into the cannon by mocking already existing cannon.
"I want Dorothy and her dog in my book!"
OK, how?
"I'll just make them smarter than the God of knowledge and change!"
Plan etc
Tzeentch is pretty much when your eyes cross, but you still can't see the picture hiding in the magic eye.
Tzeench's positive aspect is Hope, counter Nurgle's Acceptance.
Hope that things will change for the better, Hope that through some schemes, you can improve your lot or remove corruption.
Case in point, Arhriman. Ever after at least 10k years, he still has Hope that he can find enough information through multiple sources (Black Library, Tzeench's labyrinth, ect) to undo the Rubric and restore his undead dust brothers into physical form.
It’s like my favorite mantra I remind myself whenever I find myself back struggling: “There is always hope, and if there’s no hope… there’s always change.”
there's also the not insignificant factor that without well thought out and effectively enacted plans, engineering, technology, advanced science and large scale group anything becomes impossible as well.
there is such a thing as having a good plan, and absolutely fking nailing it.
Hope is a great lie. It unnecessarily prolongs human suffering
The greatest horror that Tzeentch has ever bestowed upon the universe is Hope. Fore without hope you have no desire to change your fate... Whether for the better or worse... and in that you've already fallen into his trap.
Kairos: *random babbling*
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So "blooty blooty blatty blatty blippy bloppy bloog" right?
As much Thousand Sons are champions of Tzeentch trough magic, Alpha Legion are his champions by schemes and plans and convoluted plots.
The Alpha Legion is loyalist though.
@IsmaelSantos-xv9qf Yes, no. Maybe. Truely in confusing Tzeentch manner they are both loyal and traitor.
@@IsmaelSantos-xv9qfno one knows which side they are on not even they know.
@@burningbronze7555 They are on the side of Alpharius. Or maybe Omegon.
@@IsmaelSantos-xv9qf
They’re also Not on the side of the Imperium nor Chaos, just traitors.
Maybe…
I knew about the other Chaos Gods, but I didn't know a lot about Tzeentch, was nice to get to know about it.
Same, he’s not talked about in detail nearly as much as the others, I feel.
@@Overcrox it seems like he was the first premonition of a god
Tzeentch is by far my favorite deity in any of the Warhammer settings. There's something about him that strikes me as being so unique- he is the God of so many things that 'Change' is the only thing that encompasses them all. Scheming, planning, dreaming, hope, rising and falling, innovation, transformation, ambition and lies. He thrives in the lowest alleyways of a filthy city, and at the highest level of government or academics, on the most desperate battlefield and in the calmest lounges and spas.
You can flee Khorne's wrath, subdue Slaanesh's temptations and postpone Nurgle's rot, but there is no escape from Tzeentch. There is no escape from change. And why would you want to? Change is not bad. Change can be good! Or it can be terrifying. Change is simply change. Even the God-Emperor himself embraced what Tzeentch is when he ascended and fundamentally changed humanity forever, and continued to embrace it when he began tampering with the human form to create his Primarchs and Space Marines. Tzeentch has always been in control.
Or has he? Who's to say Tzeentch has any control over himself let alone anything else? He is pure chaos, a bundle of paradoxes and contradictions woven together by schemes and plans that exist solely for the sake of existing. Maybe he never lost control of The Warp in his own subtle way. Maybe he was never truly in control in the first place. After all, when you control something long enough, does that not limit the amount of change it can experience? The spontaneity and mutation of something under control is weeded out, and so change in its truest form must be chaos. And so, perhaps it would only be fitting if the Lord of Change himself had no control of himself or his realm beyond what he has deemed fit to retain.
The grand overarching mysteries of Tzeentch make him an incredibly appealing entity, with possibilities to link his influence to characters all over the moral spectrum, and possibly even leading to some genuine good... if not just for the sake of change.
Also I just think his bubblegum color palette of pink and blue is really funny for an evil god of chaos to use.
"Hermaeus Mora or Sheogorath?"
"Yes."
Yeah he reminds me the Hermaues Mora as well first thought that came to mind
0:14 corn actually feeds mostly on nitrogen in the soil
☻👍🏿
Blood contains nitrogen too tho...
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The motive force is hope. The idea that you can do better. But also contempt of the status quo. The idea that anything could and would be better than that which is. I can relate...
this sucks, lets fix that.
in short.
dont know bout yall, but Tzeentch gives me plenty of Nyarlethotep vibes
Tzeentch is the best Chaos God. His trademark eldritch horror and his perversion of hope is fascinating.
You didn't mention an aspect of the Lord of Change. Hope. You danced around it but didn't address it. The Chaos Gods are not just pure evil. They do indeed contain good traits as well. And it may be these positive traits feed them far more than the negative ones do. I think the problem comes from the fact a god like Slannesh exists. That is the trend towards wantonly indulging in whatever one thinks and feels. This dominates how Chaos acts and such unrestrained action often becomes destructive no matter what the goal is.
magnus we know thats you, your not fooling anyone
Tzeentch is *false* hope
he's also the god of science and technology
@@vyor8837 all hope in 40k could be considered false. Anyway the point is the chaos gods are not just the bad things. They are good things too. They are thought and emotion with no filter, no discipline. Which is definitely not always a good thing. Believe the Eldar found that out. To put it lightly.
@@jacobfreeman5444So, he's kind of like Mehrunes Dagon in a way, his realm or embodiment is pure change and hope for bad and for good in a way, only there's no "Moral Aperture" to try and focus it into a different kind of change and hope that suits the accompanying situation. Kind of like, "What are you willing to do, or what price will you pay: both in macro and microcosm scale... in order to make things a tiny bit better?"
I love by default his plan will never complete it's like he will fuck it up on purpose and I can relate to that
Wild i just watched the nurgle one and thought this was an old series gonna go thru it. Didnt realize it was an hour old and 2 gods were missing
I remember his duel againat Kitten in Aflabusa's Emperor's TTS- how his deck was a draw-mill that used Graveyard Bomb to get a kill and then Kitten aent Spleen of the Cards on him and he went "INTERESTING QUESTION ASSHOLE!" ovwr "what are rules really". Also the constant subtitles juat saying [idk qeird eslritch swuid sounds]
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I couldn't change the channel while this was on; you have defeated Tzeentch!
I always felt tzeentch represented something else.. uncertainty. Everything he represent appears to be arcane or "unknowable." To me the "change" part it seems to be taking a world that is predictable and knowable and measurable, and warping into something incomprehensible. Tzeentch to me is the god of actual chaos and disorder. His opposite would be order. Tzeentch claims to have all the knowledge and can predict the future, but I think the premise is you can never have that knowledge or know the future. It's all part of the mystique or lie so Tzeentch can delight in that LACK of knowledge from his servants.
This was a brilliant episode, really well researched and written - an excellent general summary of Tzeench!
you forgot about his love of duel monsters and his epic defeat by the hands of a feline wielding member of the Imperium LOL
But in all seriousness good overview of the strange demon, and even mention of the potential end goal to just keep the game going
How ironic that out of the demons...he might be the most on our side...
the fact that he would be consider a potential ally kinda shows how screwed humanity is
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Tzeentch, the Laughing god, & the Changeling would make both good guests, rivals, & good friends to the Daedric Prince of Sheogorath whose contests with their tactics and methodologies of change and madness would put them to the maximum limitations of their capabilities to out do the Daedric Prince who has laughed and out performed all the Daedric Princes in the Elder Scrolls.
Sheogorath would probably bring beings like Yssarile, Gork and Mork, and Malice just to unexpectedly mess Tzeentch's chaotic changing plans while also adding his own brand of madness hidden in the mix before unveiling it for laughs and proving his points.
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I thought this was a SSethTzeentach video 😭
Khorne-The Scarlet King
Tzneetch-The Serpent
Nurgle-Yaldabaoth
Slaneesh-The Hanged King
Omnissiah-Mekhane
God Emperor-The Administrator
The ultimate foe of tzeentch is the minor chaos god Zuvassin, the Undoer. Zuvassin is basically the god of murphies law, and makes sure that if something can go wrong, it will go wrong.
My favorite Chaos god! Or is it?
Hey hey people. . .
I’ve heard that the little girl and the dog we’re supposed to be Big E and malcodoar. I’ve also heard it’s just supposed to be a allegory for Wendy and Toto from the wizard of oz.
Wendy?
@@Zargabaath shit ment dorthry my bad
It's definitely a Wizard of Oz reference, but anything you hear about identifying them in-universe is speculation--last I knew there are no hints or official statements on the matter.
@@fluffly3606 i heard the Big E and malcador theory first years ago when I first got into WH but then eventually heard it was just a wizard of oz reference and learning how GW is took that idea as most logical.
*OH BOY! IT’S 3AM!!*
*Someone call the Inquisition &
Grey Knights on this heretic*
Yes Lord Inquisitor, that's the guy.
I liked that outro bit, a big part of the chaos gods is that in this universe gods exist, and they grant favors. And as an imperial citizen you probably don't know a whole lot about what's going on with the larger galaxy or what the actual ramifications might be for interacting with chaos, if you even are aware that they exist - the most you probably know is mutants, heretics, xenos are bad and can get you into big trouble, but if you're at wits end, dying of a disease, are a nurse in a hospital or a conscripted guardsman in a trench trying to get through the day maybe you might send a prayer out to the god of change, mercy, or war.
In Dwarf Fortress the game also generates gods. These are procedural, so you may get a god of war, bloodshed and rainbows. Or a god of architecture and fish.
They also have an effect on the game world.
Toppling a statue at a god's temple may cause them to curse you with vampirism (makes you twice as strong, inmortal and ageless, but you need to drink blood and people attack you if they discover your vampirism) or a werecurse (every full moon you turn into a were-something, useful if you are, say, a Were-mammoth or were-rhino, not so useful if you are a were-capybara or were-chinchilla; you also drop all your items and clothing when the transformation happens and you grow back any lost limb).
A god of Death and/or Necromancy may bestow upon you the knowledge of Necromancy, allowing you to raise armies of undead as well as making you ageless.
They also place Sacred Vaults and Spires in the world, which are guarded by Angels, who are some of the strongest and most dangerous creatures you may find. They do not shout "Fear not!" because you have very good reasons to fear them. They've been known to fight modded Adamantite Colossi to a standstill. If the spire is breached or compromised a horde of demons may be unleashed.
Of course, the gods may also unleash hordes of demons in the world for different reasons.
A god of war may unleash demons "so war may rage". A god of Fortresses may unleash demons so great fortresses may be tested. A god of Death may unleash demons so there would be more death.
A god of Life may unleash demons so mortals would learn to value life more. A god of peace would unleash demons for a similar reason.
A god of Bravery or Heroism may unleash demons "so acts of bravery may be performed" or "so heroic deeds may be perfomed".
Odd gods, like, say, a God of Bread, may unleash a horde of demons "after contemplating the ineffable subtleties of Bread".
They may also inspire or possess your dwarves and have them create an artifact, which can range from Adamantium Swords or Plate Armor, to a well crafted and engraved wooden table.
Or they may inspire a lady to kill her own baby then make a mining pick out of the baby's bones. She would then complain because someone murdered her baby. Or snap and go berserk.
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Awesome work
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Ahriman is my favorite space wizard.
Tzeenchs games inside of games idea birthed the first Xbox Achievements in M.03.
Wait ... is the girl with the small dog actally Doroty from wizard of Oz?
Oh i know this guy, he makes video game reviews! I think his name's Seth or something
You hear a distant *hey hey people*
What an amazing thing to wake up too! my frav 4chan poster.....Tzeentch!
Tzeentch truly is change you can believe in.
I keep hearing people say that if any one of Tzeench's schemes ever actually fully succeeds, then he could harm or even destroy himself. I'm never sure what to make of that.
Well he draws power from Change and trickery. So if he destroys an enemy utterly or Completely dominates a planet then that actually reduces the amount of change he can feed off.
He does still conquer planets but he does so sparingly since owning those places doesn't provide him any energy.
(With the exception of Nurgle's minions. He'd never miss an opportunity to screw over Nurgle)
hes just bored, if he finally conquers everything then theyd be no room for change.
That's why when he was so powerful all the gods had to commit themselves together to attacking him he split himself into shards so he could be defeated and start over. If he ever truly won he would defeat himself.
*Sounds like Tzeentch has his own Infinity stone, to see every possible outcome!!*
Whats the simbol of the Imperium? Ah yes a two headed bird.
"In robes that continually change color." SARUMAN OF THE MANY COLORS!
A little girl and her doggy beat Tzeach's Backrooms Labyrinth.
He's back!
Oh, hell yeah. I'm such a sucker for anything Chaos.
i agree about what you said around 6:00 i hate Tzeentch because he's so OP. An entity that can see the future and can bend reality at his own will, cannot lose, the only time his army can be defeated is when he wants it
Hope you had a nice nap.
You make Vezimira proud
Just as planned!
Aw yes! My favorite chaos god!
Tzeentch is basically warhammer 40k's yog sothoth
The greatest chaos god for sure.
Certainly the most fun.
tzeentch would play monopoly where is playing with all the pieces himself and still lose
Can't wait for Khone or Slaanesh now.
So basically, this god is anxiety incarnate......
The manifestation of tomfoolery
...True, actually
I just want an army of flamers just goofing the whole battle
welcome back! o7
Tzeentch reminds me of the "Idea of Evil" from Berserk.
Yeaaaach! 🎉
"change is good? thats heresy, soldier, you will be demoted to a factory world, dont need to pack your things"
A girl with a black dog... Dorothy and Toto?!
Anybody else want more videos of warhammer, dnd, final fantasy etc rather than a mountain of SCP videos?
i just notice im not subscribed. im use to watching all those videos youtube keep suggesting them to me so i thought i was lol
great video btw
Can you do a behind the video like how you do your research
When I picture Tzeentch, I imagine the two-headed creature...
Fav chaos god. Not (as) gross, just a guy out to mess with people
Yeah Tzeench is one hell of thing to understand. But in the end it doesn't even matter.
Oh boy 3 am!
Yeah boy!!!
not sure if this is canon or not but that girl who answered the guardians riddle correctly i heard the riddle was "who truly is the master of the warp?" and she responded with "games workshop"
No wonder we needed Roboute Guilliman to reform the Imperium, he didn't change in order to have such different beliefs to everyone else.
Best prevention is kindness and a voidness of nothingness combined with Faith depending on the situation. Those pocket dimensions of those chaos juvenile cretinic cowardly gods want to degrade, deter and afflict souls in order to converge slaves for their nihilistic stupid degradations as the failed essences that they are.
BOW DOWN TO THE LORD OF CHANGE.
where is the OH BOY 3AM person? are they safe? are they alright
Have you seen the Realms of Ruin age of Sigmar Warhammer Game Launches Tomorrow, Disciples of Tzeench are 1 of the 4 factions to choose from, anyway..
3 in the morning? I thought you only uploaded at 2
Also without Tzeentch, there are no plans, no schemes, no change. He is a being of eternal change and thought, working to keep this cycle going.
In a better world, Tzeentch is ultimately the god who keeps the wheels of the minds greased... Even if hes also the whos olans ans plots have enormous paradoxes within themselves.
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Hey hey, people.
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Oh fuck yeah baby
"Change is a good thing."
I have to ask...have you considered covering WH Fantasy as well? I often find them more fascinating than 40K simply because they're more filled-out. The Imperium can have quite literally any group of humans, but they're never significant. In Fantasy, the Old World? You have Cathay, Br*tonnia, the Empire, all sorts of groups. Same goes for all other factions. Lizardmen and dwarves and ogres, oh my!
That, and the same evil forces from 40K that usually need an Astartes with a boltsr can be solved by some schmuck with pike and shot.
Please do vashtor
He is still going.
Have you done Slutnesh?
Can anyone explain to me the line about the young girl and a black dog making it through the maze?
A 4 -7 year old girl solved TZEENTCH'S Labyrinth and walked out the other side easy peasy!!! AND ITS CANON!! LOOK IT UP!!
FREAKING HILARIOUS!!
Big bad bird boy chaos God gets nerfed by a little girl!(AND HER DOG)😂😂😂😂😂
2:14 what? How can God of Hope be a bad guy? How is he chaotic?
Each chaos god has a lesser, positive side to them, like another side of the coin. Tzeentch is hope and the ability to control your destiny, khorne is honour and martial pride, slaanesh is exultation in sense and feeling, and nurgle is acceptance and the absence of dread and pain.