*This is my second WEN tool and they are both great **MyBest.Tools** I needed to do some trim work around the house and needed a scroll saw for the intricate work. No complaints so far.*
When makes great tools. I have a Wen air filter in my shop and I have been very satisfied with it so far. Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching.
paulsmessyworkshop i subscribed to your channel and will check out the other vids. i been making some tiny little boxes with drawers on the scroll saw so i was poking around youtube for tips. glad i found ya. ❤️🇺🇸
Johnnie, thanks for the comment. When I make mistakes I like to include them in my videos, I am not a perfect woodworker. I have thought of including outtakes at the end of my videos not just for fun but to show others they have nothing to worry about when it comes to woodworking or making a video. I appreciate your taking the time to watch.
@@paulsmessyworkshop Whats the old saying?, if I had a nickel for every time I dropped a project into the trash barrel, I would have a pocket full of nickels. I tell my wife, 'it's only wood'. I love scroll sawing, been at it for over 26 years and yes, I have trashed many projects over time, all ya can do is start cutting another and say 'Oh Well',........
Thanks still for the step by steps, and feeling humble enough to show what mishaps can take place. I get my new scroll saw tomorrow. So excited!! I will be taking a basic scroll saw training class. And I am planning on taking a lathe woodturning class as well. You were very helpful.... Oh forgot to add, like someone else commented, the tidbit on how to measure and execute the tilted angle for the bowl- priceless info!!
Katherine, I am glad you enjoyed my video. I believe in showing my mishaps as well as my successes...LOL. You are going to find that with some practice you are going to really like scrolling, the same with turning but the learning curve is a bit more. No matter what, stay with it the feel of the tool will come. If you ever have any questions don't hesitate to ask me or any other members of the woodworking community, we are all in this for the same reason. Thanks for watching and the great comment. Good luck and above all enjoy what you do.
I appreciate your effort. I like how you explain setting the angle of the drilling and scrollsaw bed. I learned that these bowls are better if they are not turned on the lathe for the very reason you experienced.
Gona, Believe me, this is the last time I will try and put one of those bowls on the lathe. I agree, sanding should be a better idea. Thanks for watching and for leaving the comment.
Wolfgang, I am really glad that the video helped. When you look at it the process really is quite simple. Good luck with your future in bowl making. I would like to see your results. Thanks for watching.
Richard, I think that failures are as important as successes. I try and include or at least mention the failures that I have. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
Thank You As a total newby, the his was the first video that showed how to determine the angle and how the rings were cut. I would use a sander (Belt or random orbital) to sand the item anyway, so It gave me an excellent start, as well as a reason not to start with the lathe yet.. and it gave me the idea for my first 'project'. Nice video, Thanks again.
Allan, I am glad that you found my video useful. Using a sander to finish shape the bowl is an excellent idea and one that was suggested by many of my viewers. Many suggested using an oscillating spindle sander, I many give that a try next time. Good luck to you and you advance in your woodworking hobby. Most importantly, don't hesitate to ask others for advice, you will find the woodworking community friendly and willing to help. Thanks again for watching and for commenting.
aric, glad you enjoyed the video. This was a real learning experience for me too. I will make another bowl one of these days and hopefully the results are better. Thanks for tuning in.
Love this. You learn from experience and mistakes. Appreciate you didn't use the power of editing to make it look like it went perfect. I respect that.
Making Crap With Scrap...neat name...glad you enjoyed the video. I truly believe that not everyone is a perfect woodworker and you should show your mistakes. I sure make enough of them. LOL. Thanks for watching and thanks for the nice comment.
Maker Cathy, The scroll saw bowl is a fun project. I want to attempt another one but just haven't gotten around to it yet. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
George, you are absolutely right, we all fail from time to time, no use in trying to hide it. Sort of a badge of courage...lol Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Thank you for showing! You learn from mistakes, the important thing is the fun factor! Have a lot of fun with handicrafts! Take care and stay healthy 👍 Frank Bremerhaven, Germany
Bo-Be-Q Barbecue aus der Seestadt Bremerhaven , I appreciate your taking the time to watch and for the nice comment. After all, mistakes are part of learning.
Ed, glad you enjoyed the video. I have never tried the economy bowl on the band saw but I have seen videos of it being done. I appreciate your watching and leaving the great comment.
Thanks Paul absolutely loved the demonstration. I would much rather watch a demo that shows the method for making a project that indicates the pitfalls along the way. This helps the novice like me to try again and not throw the scroll saw in the bin. Thanks again.
Ron, I try and include my gaffs in my videos. Seems like all woodworkers make mistakes so we might as well fess up to them. Since that video I have gotten lots of good ideas on how to keep that from happening when I try again. I appreciate your time watching and for leaving the great comment.
Not a failure Paul. One hell of a good video and a lesson learned. Keep working at it. The biggest problem you had was working with pine. :Pine is THE crappiest wood to work with on the lathe. Thanks for posting. Ken
Ken, I guess I will have to loosen the purse strings and try that project with some better wood. I don't do a lot of turning so I appreciate the hint to try it with something other than pine. Thanks for watching and leaving the comment.
dennisg, thanks for the kind words. Glad you learned from my mistakes. Next time I attempt this project I think I will either use hardwood or use sanding on the lathe as a method to do the final shape. It isn't necessary to have a lathe to make this project it sure helps with the final shaping. Thanks again for taking the time to watch and for the nice comment.
@@paulsmessyworkshop Paul, Yes, hang in there. I have known about this method for a few years but I have never tried it because all I have for a Scroll saw is an old Delta model and it is a trial just to mount a blade to it. But your video got me thinking about it again, so I tried it with a piece of hard maple and it came out fine except it was kind of small, so I added a base plate and a segmented top ring using Purpleheart. It turned out being one of my favorite bowls. Thank you for the inspiration to try it. Bruce
So sorry Paul. Trust me I have those type of things happen to me on a regular basis. I like you I don’t give up but it is frustrating at times. I don’t have a lathe but I’ve been considering it as of late. Thanks for sharing even the “fail” as you called it BUT someone on here told me that every fail is a lesson learned soooo let’s call this a lesson learned. Even though it didn’t work out it was a great video. Your explanation of the way to do things is really good because you go about it in such a relaxed way. Take care Paul and it’s great to see you on here making videos again. I hope your wife is better too.
Becky, thanks for the kind words. My wife is coming along slowly but she is improving, thanks for asking. Even though it ended up poorly I enjoyed working on the project. I appreciate your taking the time to watch and comment.
So the one thing I learn from this is the bowl angle creation. Thank you go much for showing me that trick. I will certainly use that when I make my wife some Dough Raising bowls!
Love it , 1st one under way :note for first time doers like me make sure you listen to what Paul is saying and line up your pilot holes relative with the direction of your blade or you get a comedy of errors till you do. Also if your not use to cutting at angles ,like moi you will have to slow down your feed speed and let the blade do the work. Yeah every one knows this,lol. I do find holding my hands closer to the work helps .Paul Ive watched your video numerous times now love it .Thanks again from B.C Canada.
Hercules, Thanks...yes, I believe in including the errors that happen during a project. That is how I learn and I believe we all learn that way. Thanks for the kind words and for taking the time to watch.
I would like to congratulate you for the beautiful work. Many people make mistakes but do not admit their mistakes show only their things. I learned from life that you only make mistakes when you do those who do nothing they can't make mistakes . Congratulations dear Mr. Big hug from Brasil Said Choucair
Said, thanks for such kind words. When I make a video and I make a mistake I feel it is only right to include that mistake. My goal is not to make the same mistake twice...or at least too many times. Thanks again for watching and for the really nice comment.
Howdy. Liked your video. One thing I've come across in making scroll saw bowls is I've found it easiest not to glue on the bottom before sanding the inside on a spindle sander. That way you can pass the spindle completely through your concentric rings without hitting the bottom of the bowl. Hope that helps!
Jared, Thanks for the hint on creating a successful bowl, I will definitely give that a try. It makes great sense. I appreciate your taking the time to watch and for the great comment.
Cool project Paul. Even though it went wrong it was still a great project. This is how we learn. I'd have just sanded the heck out of it and glued up the crack, painted it and maybe used some modelling paste on it for a texture and called it a work of art. LOL Thumbs up!
Judy, good luck turning the bowl. I hope you have better luck than I did with the lathe part but I am not very good with the lathe. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Calvin, Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Failure is just a stop along the road to success. Glad you enjoyed my video and continue to watch.
Absolutely loved this video. Like your bowl, the video didn't turn out as I expected. Great to see you have the confidence to put out a project that went wrong. AAA+++ I have now subscribed to your channel.
Lee, thanks for subscribing. I believe showing the true content good or bad. After all we all make mistakes and we all learn. Thanks for tuning in and for the nice comment. I shoiuld have some new material soon.
Great show Paul and although the bowl split at getting a couple of catches on the lathe, I love the fact that the show was posted anyway with encouragement to carry on. I would think that for pine, sanding might be the better way to go with the final shaping of the bowl. When cutting out the pieces, I see that you cut them clockwise. I'm assuming that you would have to reverse the tilt of the blade if you favoured cutting in the counter clockwise orientation. Great project. I might have to steal this one from you. Thanks for sharing it with us sir. Awesome show as always.
Ken, Thanks for the great comments, I always value your opinion. I agree with you that sanding to finally shape the bowl would have probably been a better way to go. Pine end grain is tricky at best and not for the faint of heart. I don't know why but it seems I most always scroll clockwise whether cutting flat or on an angle. It is the way I learned and have always done it that way. The only thing I can think of is that I am right handed and cutting that way keeps my right hand close to the cut. Thanks for watching.
Ken, I forgot to mention, when I do a version 2 of this project I will probably use hardwood. That seemed to be the most popular suggestion I received.
That would definitely help with the stability of the project on the lathe for sure. There was an awful lot of tear out on that pine in the cross grain. As you said in your show though, the important thing is to try again and keep working at it. Good luck with version 2.
Serving, I am glad you enjoyed my video. Yep, an epic fail but lots learned along the way. Next time it will be better. Thanks for watching and your comment.
Janice, thanks for the kind words. I have had quite a few suggestions on how to make the next one a success. It is on the list... I appreciate your taking the time to watch and comment.
juan, Greetings!!!! Welcome to my channel, glad to have you as a viewer. Thanks for tuning in and for the nice comment about my video, glad it helped you in your woodworking.
I'm happy you made this video even though it did not turn out so well. This will help me see that even experienced people mess up sometimes. I just bought my first scroll saw yesterday. I plan on making a lot of fun projects, but the only thing I have used it for so far is to cut 45° straight lines so that I could finish the two treasure chests I have been working on for an eternity (not really an eternity obviously, but they were started last October as Christmas gifts and... Anyhow, I'm building the inner shelves and got tired of sawing on the miter box. I figured a scroll saw would be a lot faster and easier. It will also allow me to cut patterns into some wood blanks I got because I wanted to get into whittling a couple of years ago. I thought I could just get the whittling kit, a few books, and start cutting, but half the projects recommend you start by cutting the basic outline using a scroll saw or a band saw, so they have also been sitting untouched. I got a promotion with a major pay raise, so my promotion gifts to myself were a scroll saw and a belt/spindle sander. I suppose I could make my money back if I decided to sell a few projects, but really, I just want to make cool stuff for friends and family with them. My 45° straight lines turned out quite well, and the inserts are coming along nicely. I was very happy to learn that apparently, the scroll saw can also be used to cut plexiglass because the bottom of these inserts will be clear plastic, so the treasure is visible from above. I might make a video of the project once I'm done, but I think it would be more of step by step photographs considering I didn't record a lot of video during any of this project. What do you use to record yourself while crafting?
Jolene, welcome to the rabbit hole of woodworking..lol. I record my videos with a Canon 5i digital camera. It has a movie setting on it and it works real well. Almost any digital camera with a video setting on it will work or for that matter a video camera. Thanks for watching and for your comment and good luck in you woodworking. I would be interested in seeing your projects. If you make any videos be sure and send me the link. My email is: paulsmessyworkshop@gmail.com
I have some stuff I made already a while ago, but hand cutting things with a miter box was annoying and I had slowly started cutting into the miter box with my saw (Its plastic). Most of the projects were made using premade boxes and items from hobby lobby, but modifying them by adding different hardware and other parts because as is, they lacked personality. I made one video of a jewelry case I made for a friend, but I focused more on the electronic portion than the rest of the construction and the castle was bought from Michael's so I didn't cut my own castle to use. I did create the electronic portion though by hand soldering the parts together and programming the components using Arduinos as the main component. I plan on doing the same for the boxes I'm working on now, but they are prebuilt chests. The insert for jewelry I made on my own though along with a hidden compartment below that has D6 dice as the legs which were carved using a Dremel tool and a lot of sanding. The top insert will have a clear base instead of wood so you can see the "Treasure" below. After looking at a lot of what I have seen online, I see that with a scroll saw, it would probably not be too difficult to make a castle and chests in the future. Not sure if it would be cheaper or not though. I used my phone for the video and it took up a lot of space not to mention the fun I had with placement of the phone.
I think that you made a very nice bowl and it was not a failure! You fail only when you stop trying! That was a bad moment! I m sure everybody is waiting to see your next bowl! 👍
Margaritis, Thanks for tuning in and for the kind words. I plan on making another attempt at this type of bowl in the future. I really like the method of construction. I may very well try it with a different type of wood next time.
T. Skipwadoo, thanks for taking the time to leave the great comment. I make mistakes, there, it is out for all to see. I don't think it is fair to viewer to think that I don't. I enjoy making my videos and it is great to get comments such as yours. Thanks again.
When you started showing the second attempt, there’s a crack showing in the next layer right at the tool rest before you rotate it to show the blowout. As many others have said, thanks for posting this! We all run into “situations “, but most of the RUclips gurus never show those!
Great video, watched it till the end even if had failed. As for the bowl splitting, I'm guessing if you had rotated each cutout at each level quarter turn, splitting of the bowl at the end may have been prevented.
Cloud Piper, Good idea to rotate each level of the bowl to prevent spitting. You are right, it probably would help with the splitting. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Hi Paul, your video was very enlightening. I just bought a new Delta band saw and I'm quite pleased with it's performance. I am an experienced wood worker with experience is most facts of wood working and turning. I am thinking of trying the same kind of scroll/lathe project and I will use pine but I will plane the surfaces to ensure good glue joints and I will stagger the end grain so as to minimize tare out. If I may offer you a couple of suggestions on your lathe work; 1. try to keep support on the drive and tailstock as long as possible. 2. Get your lathe speed up as fast as possible without vibration. 3. Sharpen your bowl gouge and keep it sharp enough to shear not scrape. A little practice and you can do it. One other thing, do not use scrapers on pine (the wood fibers crush and tare very easily and that will cause big catches. Go For it!!!!
Great video, loved it. I'm going to try this, however, I think I'll just sand it. You didn't fail, you actually helped us think of other ways to achieve making a bowl. Remember the quote by Edison: As an inventor, Edison made 1,000 unsuccessful attempts at inventing the light bulb. ... Edison replied, "I didn't fail 1,000 times. The light bulb was an invention with 1,000 steps." "Great success is built on failure, frustration, even catastrophe." Then we get that "Aha!" moment. So that's how it's done. Keep up the great videos.
That's right. Pine is a soft timber. Maybe better to sand than to lathe cut. But a great idea doing these circles on the angle - it could lead to other worthwhile projects.
Chris, sorry in the delay in replying to your comment, sometime life just gets in the way. Your comment hits it right on the head, success is an eventual result. I appreciate your taking the time to watch my video and to leave a comment. Glad you enjoyed my video.
Hi mate i enjoyed watching your video. I have never tried to make a bowl like that yet but I will, i don't have a lathe i will just sand it. Please don't give up good luck with your next project 👍👏
Thomas and Jenny, thanks for the kind words. I also believe that errors are just another way of learning and teaching. I learned a lot on this project. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
First one cut out Paul , did it with compass and paper , wasn't paying much attention guess the graph paper threw me.. off ... but a little extra sanding .... Got my next pattern set up much ,better than the first one. Just want to give you and update and that we are out here doing it cause of your vid . Great teacher .
Steven, thanks for the kind words. I am glad you have had success. This is a fun project. I would like to see your final product. I would appreciate it is you would email me a picture of your project. You can email me a picture at: paulsmessyworkshop@gmail.com
@@paulsmessyworkshop Will do the project is now two bowels mostly into one Dear friend passed on and turning it into a Urn .Will send pics of final project ,thanks .
I own a scroll saw, but I've never been able to afford a lathe. So I got excited to think I could finally make a bowl just with a tool I actually own! 6:40 A WILD LATHE APPEARS
W.D. You can by all means make the bowl with just a scroll saw. After cutting out the parts, gluing them together, it is just a matter of a lot of sanding to finish the bowl. I cheated and tried to cut some corners and as you can see in the video it didn't work. The bowl can definitely be made with just a scroll saw and sandpaper. Thanks for calling me out on this one. I appreciate the comment and for you watching.
Chico, I plan on trying this again. I will either use harder wood or if I use pine I will sand it to shape it. Thanks for tuning in and for the comment.
You have a beautiful lathe there, why use a scroll saw to make a bowl? Thanks for sharing Paul. When a youtuber is sincere and honest like you, I am subscribing.
David, thanks for the kind words. The reason for making the bowl on the scroll saw is mainly because of the challenge and because the bowl is being made from a single piece of wood that would normally be too small for a bowl. The original design for this bowl does not include using the lathe. Once the rings are cut and the parts are glued together then it is sanded to shape and finished. Thanks for your question and for taking the time to watch.
Everything is a learning experience. As others have stated before, use a hardwood, but more importantly, stagger your grain. In other words, don't line up all the end grain, stagger them 45 - 90 degrees apart. That way you have more strength around the bowl instead of two weak points on each side of the bowl.
Terry, thanks for the information. I have decided that on my next attempt I will surely be using hardwood to make the bowl.. The idea of rotating the layers to add more strength is a good one. I was trying to keep the grain going in the same direction to make it look like it flowed up the finished bowl....maybe not a good idea. I appreciate your watching.
Not a failure, Paul. A learning experience. Now I won't make that mistake. But that is because I don't have a lathe. I will just have to find another way to make a piece of firewood. I am sure I can come up with something.
Katie, If you have lots of time you can always sand that type of bowl to the finished product. That would be a lot of sanding however. Russ was telling me he has done that in the past though. I will give this project another try. Thanks for watching and leaving the comment.
Ray, that indeed is a good idea. I have yet to try it but I will the next time the problem arises. Thanks for the information and for taking the time to watch and comment.
Gary, Welcome to the world of scroll sawing I am sure you will enjoy it. Just remember you will get better with time. On this particular project I believe I used a Flying Dutchman #3 reverse tooth blade. I don't know if there is really a standard actually when it comes to blade choice. I know that some blade manufactures show basic and general usages on their websites. If you are interested, there is a show on Twitch every Wednesday night at 7:30pm EST put on by Russ Claridy that discusses all things scroll saw. He covers everything from designing patterns, to blade choice, to cutting techniques, to finishing. He is also always open to ideas that other people have. Here is a link to his show www.twitch.tv/simplywoodencreations and like I said it is on at 7:30pm EST on Wednesday evenings. Be happy to have you in the chat, just give me a shout if you are there. Hope this has helped. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
I have made several sizes of this lke form of a jar. The bigone is a bout 15 inches high by approximatedlie 9-10 wide. I used 3/4 plywood oak and they are very atracyive because the layers. I did made the cut inside so the rings are one piece. I'll be glad to share some pictures that I have taken.
Shady, Yes, the type of wood had a lot to do with it. It is hard to turn thin end grain pine. Next time I may try a harder wood or try sanding to get to the final shape and thickness. One thing about it, it was a good learning experience. Us woodworkers are always learning. Thanks for watching and for your comment.
Ronald, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I agree with your suggestion about using a harder wood or a better piece of pine. Good idea.
I just bought a scroll saw for my "shop" that is a 2 car garage in Mass, just south of the NH border. Sometimes it is a mechanic's shop, but most often it's a wood shop. Have some good tools in there! Videos like yours are inspiring and helpful. Keep up the good work.
Dave, You are right, hardwood will probably help a lot. When I try again I think I will go that route. Pine is great for somethings but for me turning isn't one of them. Thanks for the comment.
Vini, once I had the angle I set an adjustable square at that angle and used it as a guide for my drill. You could also cut a piece of wood at that angle and use it to guide the drill. Good question. Thanks for taking the time to watch and for the comment.
D Maschy, plywood is an interesting idea. I have never tried turning plywood so I don't know what kind of results to expect. Thanks for watching and for the interesting idea.
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in my opinion the reason was direction of wood fibres. during turning fibres come to parallel and perpendicular to knife. same pressure to knife apply different force to fibres. sorry my english
niyazi ates, you bring up a very good point. It is very possible that the direction of the wood fibers in relation to the chisel edge could be the problem. I am also not a very good turner and I am the first to admit it. Thanks for the comment and for pointing out what the problem could be. Your English is fine.
Thank you! I like that you "failed" but I don't see it as a failure, only lessons. Next time maybe fill the crack with resin? I'm new to this myself but it would have looked nice. Or hand sand? Anyways....going to watch some more of your vids. thanks again
J s, you are probably right about sanding the bowl. Probably attacking it with a coarse paper would have done a better job of shaping it than I did with the lathe tools. Maybe if I ever turn another one out of pine I will give that a try. Probably my next attempt will be out of hardwood. Thanks for watching and leaving the comment.
thedjkay, you are 100% right, sanding would be a much better option. That said, I am a bit lazy and thought trying to finish it on the lathe would be an easier way...WRONG!! The next one I will finish by sanding. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
naufal, now I understand...sorry I didn't before. My lathe is an older Delta Midi Lathe, it does not have electronic speed control like the newer ones do. The new Delta Midi Lathe costs $649.00 on Amazon. There are many other manufacturers of this size lathe, Jet, RiKon, Nova just to name a few. I think all are good quality tools. Hope this provides the information you were looking for. If not please get back to me. Thanks for your comment.
Good video, its not necessarily the lathe tho, I would scrap the Pine for some Maple 🍁, Walnut, Birch, Poplur etc Hardwoods... Thanks for sharing & I agree never give up!!
HKGuy, Thanks for watching and commenting. Believe me, I will not be turning another bowl out of anything but hardwood. I have given up on pine on the lathe.
I think I could have used MDF or plywood. The pine in the direction of the veins was narrow and easy to break. I would also use only sandpaper for the finish given the fragility of the piece. Excellent the project. Losses are part of it.
João, I think the next time I attempt this project I will either use hardwood or use a different method to do the final shaping. Maybe just sand it to the final shape. Thanks for the ideas and for the kind words. I appreciate your taking the time to watch.
Paul that really was a great project. It's unfortunate that it did crack on you though. We all learn from our mistakes! Pine really isn't a good wood to turn anyway. Especially in a dry state. However I have seen bowls done like this that came out really cool! Russ Clairity is a great guy, and a great teacher. I'm sure that if you tried this again it would come out correctly! Many blessings to you Paul!
Tracy, Russ Clarity is indeed a great person and an excellent craftsman. I agree that pine is not the best choice to use on a lathe and on my next attempt on this project I will most definitely be using a hardwood. Learning a new technique and is what learning is all about, right? Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
Bonjour , Je suis vraiment impressionnnée par ce genre d'art et j'aimerai bien apprendre , est ce possible ??? est ce que c'est obligé d'avoir une formation de menuisier et d'avoir tout un atelier de menuisierie ou bien d'avoir seulement la machine de scie à chantourner et commencer à apprendre ??? un grand merci
Sophia, Parmi tous les outils de mon atelier, la scie à chantourner est probablement l’un des plus faciles à apprendre. Il existe de nombreuses vidéos sur RUclips illustrant son utilisation et de nombreux sites Web proposant des modèles gratuits. N'hésitez pas à m'envoyer un email à paulsmessyworkshop@gmail.com si je peux vous aider. Bonne chance dans votre aventure du sciage à rouleaux et du travail du bois en général
Merci pour votre réponse je suis vraiment rassurée reste à comparer les marquer et choisir une scie qui m'aide à débuter .Merci encore et je vous souhaite une bonne année 2019
abd, now I understand your question better...sorry I didn't before. My lathe is an older Delta Midi Lathe, it does not have electronic speed control like the newer ones do. The new Delta Midi Lathe costs $649.00 on Amazon. There are many other manufacturers of this size lathe, Jet, Rikon, Nova just to name a few. I think all are good quality tools. Hope this provides the information you were looking for. If not please get back to me. Thanks for your comment.
Hi Paul: I know this video is over 2 years old. Did you ever figure out why the wood was cracking? Could there have been hairline cracks that you may have not have noticed in the begining? Maybe the grain was just too wild to turn on a lathe. Sometimes things just happen and we never know why. Maybe next time, try placing a round disk on the face of the bowl and hold it in place with the tail stock. That would help stabilize the bowl while turning. You get an "E+" for your effort. Chuck
Chuck, to be honest I think the wood cracked and broke while trying to turn was due to user error on the lathe and my choice of wood. I was using pine. Using the lathe is not my strong point. I would have been much better off sanding it into final shape..... Thanks for taking the time to watch and for your great comment. One of these days I am going to try again but this time I will use another method to do the final shaping and a better species of wood.
Mr. Doeboy356, LOL. I tried to salvage that project but it just never happened. I will try again one of these days. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
*This is my second WEN tool and they are both great **MyBest.Tools** I needed to do some trim work around the house and needed a scroll saw for the intricate work. No complaints so far.*
When makes great tools. I have a Wen air filter in my shop and I have been very satisfied with it so far. Thanks for your comment and thanks for watching.
your honesty is noble. the viewer learns much more when the host is honest. ❤️🇺🇸
Scott, thanks for the kind words. Everyone makes mistakes, I don't mind showing mine. That is how we learn. I appreciate your watching.
paulsmessyworkshop i subscribed to your channel and will check out the other vids. i been making some tiny little boxes with drawers on the scroll saw so i was poking around youtube for tips. glad i found ya. ❤️🇺🇸
Scott, hope my channel doesn't disappoint. Thanks for subscribing.
It was reall y refreshing to see a mistake and someone be honest about it yet be so informative
Johnnie, thanks for the comment. When I make mistakes I like to include them in my videos, I am not a perfect woodworker. I have thought of including outtakes at the end of my videos not just for fun but to show others they have nothing to worry about when it comes to woodworking or making a video. I appreciate your taking the time to watch.
@@paulsmessyworkshop Whats the old saying?, if I had a nickel for every time I dropped a project into the trash barrel, I would have a pocket full of nickels. I tell my wife, 'it's only wood'. I love scroll sawing, been at it for over 26 years and yes, I have trashed many projects over time, all ya can do is start cutting another and say 'Oh Well',........
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Mr. Paul you taught us 2 lessons in 1 video.. honesty and dedication. you are a true inspiration.
Nazirul, thank you so much for the very kind words. I appreciate your taking the time to watch and for the comment. Happy woodworking.
Thanks still for the step by steps, and feeling humble enough to show what mishaps can take place. I get my new scroll saw tomorrow. So excited!! I will be taking a basic scroll saw training class. And I am planning on taking a lathe woodturning class as well. You were very helpful....
Oh forgot to add, like someone else commented, the tidbit on how to measure and execute the tilted angle for the bowl- priceless info!!
Katherine, I am glad you enjoyed my video. I believe in showing my mishaps as well as my successes...LOL. You are going to find that with some practice you are going to really like scrolling, the same with turning but the learning curve is a bit more. No matter what, stay with it the feel of the tool will come. If you ever have any questions don't hesitate to ask me or any other members of the woodworking community, we are all in this for the same reason. Thanks for watching and the great comment. Good luck and above all enjoy what you do.
I appreciate your effort. I like how you explain setting the angle of the drilling and scrollsaw bed. I learned that these bowls are better if they are not turned on the lathe for the very reason you experienced.
Gona, Believe me, this is the last time I will try and put one of those bowls on the lathe. I agree, sanding should be a better idea. Thanks for watching and for leaving the comment.
Thank you for being yourself. I enjoy your videos. Can’t wait for your next video.
Rob T, thanks for the kind words. More videos coming soon. Been tied up working on projects that weren't worthy of video but that will soon change.
You seem to be the only one who explains how to find the right angle oneself. Thank you again!
Wolfgang, I am really glad that the video helped. When you look at it the process really is quite simple. Good luck with your future in bowl making. I would like to see your results. Thanks for watching.
I love it! I have no idea how many projects I trashed, and you sir handed like a true gentleman
Michael, thanks for the kind words. Projects get messed up, that is the truth. Might as well show it. I appreciate your watching and your comment.
Thank you for your honesty! I had the same result with a segmented bowl. It was encouraging to see I’m not alone.
Richard, I think that failures are as important as successes. I try and include or at least mention the failures that I have. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
Thank You As a total newby, the his was the first video that showed how to determine the angle and how the rings were cut. I would use a sander (Belt or random orbital) to sand the item anyway, so It gave me an excellent start, as well as a reason not to start with the lathe yet.. and it gave me the idea for my first 'project'. Nice video, Thanks again.
Allan, I am glad that you found my video useful. Using a sander to finish shape the bowl is an excellent idea and one that was suggested by many of my viewers. Many suggested using an oscillating spindle sander, I many give that a try next time. Good luck to you and you advance in your woodworking hobby. Most importantly, don't hesitate to ask others for advice, you will find the woodworking community friendly and willing to help. Thanks again for watching and for commenting.
The video is excellent.
The way you presented this "failure" taught me a great deal. Thanks
aric, glad you enjoyed the video. This was a real learning experience for me too. I will make another bowl one of these days and hopefully the results are better. Thanks for tuning in.
Love this. You learn from experience and mistakes. Appreciate you didn't use the power of editing to make it look like it went perfect. I respect that.
Making Crap With Scrap...neat name...glad you enjoyed the video. I truly believe that not everyone is a perfect woodworker and you should show your mistakes. I sure make enough of them. LOL. Thanks for watching and thanks for the nice comment.
Very refreshing honesty !!! Having retired, I'm about to start turning and I'm sure this will befall me. Oh well, we live and learn.
Stewart, I confess I am a lousy turner!!! I am going to try this again someday however because I will succeed...LOL. Thanks for watching.
thank you paul i was wondring how to find the degree for tapper cuting you have made it clear to me thanks once again ♥♥
I like this IDEA!
Maker Cathy, The scroll saw bowl is a fun project. I want to attempt another one but just haven't gotten around to it yet. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
Enjoyed your video, I'll definitely give this a try. I learned a few things, thanks for sharing. Please keep them coming.
YaValioCacaWates M, Thanks for watching and for the comment. Please do give it a try, it is really a neat project. Good luck and happy woodworking.
Great video - iy's nice to know that we all fail from time to time and I appreciate you showing and telling us what can go wrong!
George, you are absolutely right, we all fail from time to time, no use in trying to hide it. Sort of a badge of courage...lol Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
l like video that show learning, why and what not to do!
Thank you for showing!
You learn from mistakes, the important thing is the fun factor!
Have a lot of fun with handicrafts!
Take care and stay healthy 👍
Frank
Bremerhaven, Germany
Bo-Be-Q Barbecue aus der Seestadt Bremerhaven , I appreciate your taking the time to watch and for the nice comment. After all, mistakes are part of learning.
Thank you for the idea on how to use a scroll saw. my first economy bowel did with band saw. now Ill do one with the scroll saw. Thanks again.
Ed, glad you enjoyed the video. I have never tried the economy bowl on the band saw but I have seen videos of it being done. I appreciate your watching and leaving the great comment.
Thanks Paul absolutely loved the demonstration. I would much rather watch a demo that shows the method for making a project that indicates the pitfalls along the way. This helps the novice like me to try again and not throw the scroll saw in the bin. Thanks again.
Ron, I try and include my gaffs in my videos. Seems like all woodworkers make mistakes so we might as well fess up to them. Since that video I have gotten lots of good ideas on how to keep that from happening when I try again. I appreciate your time watching and for leaving the great comment.
Very nice job, Good bless you
Youssef, I appreciate your taking the time to watch and comment. This is indeed a fun project.
Sir thank you. I’ve learned a lot through this video, this video is much appreciated.
Karlos, glad the video helped you. This is a fun project, this example just didn't go as I had hoped. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
Great tips.. thanks
Goldinton, glad it was of help to you. Thanks for the comment and for watching.
Not a failure Paul. One hell of a good video and a lesson learned. Keep working at it. The biggest problem you had was working with pine. :Pine is THE crappiest wood to work with on the lathe. Thanks for posting.
Ken
Ken, I guess I will have to loosen the purse strings and try that project with some better wood. I don't do a lot of turning so I appreciate the hint to try it with something other than pine. Thanks for watching and leaving the comment.
Hi Paul! Thanks for sharing this. Your human!! :) I learned a lot from this. That's what its all about! Thank you sir!
dennisg, thanks for the kind words. Glad you learned from my mistakes. Next time I attempt this project I think I will either use hardwood or use sanding on the lathe as a method to do the final shape. It isn't necessary to have a lathe to make this project it sure helps with the final shaping. Thanks again for taking the time to watch and for the nice comment.
Been there, done that. Gald to know I am not the only one. Enjoyed the video.
Bruce, yes but I am determined to get it right one of these days....LOL
@@paulsmessyworkshop Paul, Yes, hang in there. I have known about this method for a few years but I have never tried it because all I have for a Scroll saw is an old Delta model and it is a trial just to mount a blade to it. But your video got me thinking about it again, so I tried it with a piece of hard maple and it came out fine except it was kind of small, so I added a base plate and a segmented top ring using Purpleheart. It turned out being one of my favorite bowls. Thank you for the inspiration to try it.
Bruce
I enjoyed your sense of humour, thanks.
You have to have fun, right? Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
So sorry Paul. Trust me I have those type of things happen to me on a regular basis. I like you I don’t give up but it is frustrating at times. I don’t have a lathe but I’ve been considering it as of late. Thanks for sharing even the “fail” as you called it BUT someone on here told me that every fail is a lesson learned soooo let’s call this a lesson learned. Even though it didn’t work out it was a great video. Your explanation of the way to do things is really good because you go about it in such a relaxed way. Take care Paul and it’s great to see you on here making videos again. I hope your wife is better too.
Becky, thanks for the kind words. My wife is coming along slowly but she is improving, thanks for asking. Even though it ended up poorly I enjoyed working on the project. I appreciate your taking the time to watch and comment.
So the one thing I learn from this is the bowl angle creation. Thank you go much for showing me that trick. I will certainly use that when I make my wife some Dough Raising bowls!
Richard, good luck with your bowls. This is a fun way to make them. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
Love it , 1st one under way :note for first time doers like me make sure you listen to what Paul is saying and line up your pilot holes relative with the direction of your blade or you get a comedy of errors till you do. Also if your not use to cutting at angles ,like moi you will have to slow down your feed speed and let the blade do the work. Yeah every one knows this,lol. I do find holding my hands closer to the work helps .Paul Ive watched your video numerous times now love it .Thanks again from B.C Canada.
Steven, congrats on your success. Thanks for letting me know your progress.
I liked seeing this very interesting ‼️‼️🤔🤔🤔
Henry, thanks for the kind words and for taking the time to watch.
Dear God Paul ! I love your project. You rock & kick butt.
Glad you share your fails as I learn from them. I am new to this hobby much to learn
Hercules, Thanks...yes, I believe in including the errors that happen during a project. That is how I learn and I believe we all learn that way. Thanks for the kind words and for taking the time to watch.
I like this idea!
Stuart Arts, Thanks for the comment. My hope is that the next version will turn out better than the first attempt. I appreciate your watching.
I would like to congratulate you for the beautiful work. Many people make mistakes but do not admit their mistakes show only their things. I learned from life that you only make mistakes when you do those who do nothing they can't make mistakes . Congratulations dear Mr. Big hug from Brasil Said Choucair
Said, thanks for such kind words. When I make a video and I make a mistake I feel it is only right to include that mistake. My goal is not to make the same mistake twice...or at least too many times. Thanks again for watching and for the really nice comment.
Howdy. Liked your video. One thing I've come across in making scroll saw bowls is I've found it easiest not to glue on the bottom before sanding the inside on a spindle sander. That way you can pass the spindle completely through your concentric rings without hitting the bottom of the bowl. Hope that helps!
Jared, Thanks for the hint on creating a successful bowl, I will definitely give that a try. It makes great sense. I appreciate your taking the time to watch and for the great comment.
Cool project Paul. Even though it went wrong it was still a great project. This is how we learn. I'd have just sanded the heck out of it and glued up the crack, painted it and maybe used some modelling paste on it for a texture and called it a work of art. LOL Thumbs up!
Brenda, wise words from a wise person....sanding sure would have been a better way to go. Maybe next time...LOL thanks for watching and the coment.
I just used a piece of pallet wood to test this out, it half an hour later I have it glued and clamped. Fun little project and good video
Judy, good luck turning the bowl. I hope you have better luck than I did with the lathe part but I am not very good with the lathe. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Am gonna save this video to keep reminding me that failing is just part of the process 👍
Calvin, Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Failure is just a stop along the road to success. Glad you enjoyed my video and continue to watch.
Absolutely loved this video. Like your bowl, the video didn't turn out as I expected. Great to see you have the confidence to put out a project that went wrong. AAA+++ I have now subscribed to your channel.
Lee, thanks for subscribing. I believe showing the true content good or bad. After all we all make mistakes and we all learn. Thanks for tuning in and for the nice comment. I shoiuld have some new material soon.
@@paulsmessyworkshop Really look forward to seeing more. And thank you.
Very nice. Thank you for sharing
Thank you for posting this!
Noel, hope you give it a try. I haven't had a chance to make another one yet but it is on the list. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
Great show Paul and although the bowl split at getting a couple of catches on the lathe, I love the fact that the show was posted anyway with encouragement to carry on. I would think that for pine, sanding might be the better way to go with the final shaping of the bowl. When cutting out the pieces, I see that you cut them clockwise. I'm assuming that you would have to reverse the tilt of the blade if you favoured cutting in the counter clockwise orientation. Great project. I might have to steal this one from you. Thanks for sharing it with us sir. Awesome show as always.
Ken, Thanks for the great comments, I always value your opinion. I agree with you that sanding to finally shape the bowl would have probably been a better way to go. Pine end grain is tricky at best and not for the faint of heart. I don't know why but it seems I most always scroll clockwise whether cutting flat or on an angle. It is the way I learned and have always done it that way. The only thing I can think of is that I am right handed and cutting that way keeps my right hand close to the cut. Thanks for watching.
Ken, I forgot to mention, when I do a version 2 of this project I will probably use hardwood. That seemed to be the most popular suggestion I received.
That would definitely help with the stability of the project on the lathe for sure. There was an awful lot of tear out on that pine in the cross grain. As you said in your show though, the important thing is to try again and keep working at it. Good luck with version 2.
really enjoyed this video..even if it was a fail!
Serving, I am glad you enjoyed my video. Yep, an epic fail but lots learned along the way. Next time it will be better. Thanks for watching and your comment.
Oh that was gorgeous. I hope some one messages you with an easy way. Good luck on the next one.
Janice, thanks for the kind words. I have had quite a few suggestions on how to make the next one a success. It is on the list... I appreciate your taking the time to watch and comment.
Thank you very much for your explanation a greeting from Argentina
juan, Greetings!!!! Welcome to my channel, glad to have you as a viewer. Thanks for tuning in and for the nice comment about my video, glad it helped you in your woodworking.
I'm happy you made this video even though it did not turn out so well. This will help me see that even experienced people mess up sometimes. I just bought my first scroll saw yesterday. I plan on making a lot of fun projects, but the only thing I have used it for so far is to cut 45° straight lines so that I could finish the two treasure chests I have been working on for an eternity (not really an eternity obviously, but they were started last October as Christmas gifts and...
Anyhow, I'm building the inner shelves and got tired of sawing on the miter box. I figured a scroll saw would be a lot faster and easier. It will also allow me to cut patterns into some wood blanks I got because I wanted to get into whittling a couple of years ago. I thought I could just get the whittling kit, a few books, and start cutting, but half the projects recommend you start by cutting the basic outline using a scroll saw or a band saw, so they have also been sitting untouched.
I got a promotion with a major pay raise, so my promotion gifts to myself were a scroll saw and a belt/spindle sander. I suppose I could make my money back if I decided to sell a few projects, but really, I just want to make cool stuff for friends and family with them.
My 45° straight lines turned out quite well, and the inserts are coming along nicely. I was very happy to learn that apparently, the scroll saw can also be used to cut plexiglass because the bottom of these inserts will be clear plastic, so the treasure is visible from above.
I might make a video of the project once I'm done, but I think it would be more of step by step photographs considering I didn't record a lot of video during any of this project. What do you use to record yourself while crafting?
Jolene, welcome to the rabbit hole of woodworking..lol. I record my videos with a Canon 5i digital camera. It has a movie setting on it and it works real well. Almost any digital camera with a video setting on it will work or for that matter a video camera. Thanks for watching and for your comment and good luck in you woodworking. I would be interested in seeing your projects. If you make any videos be sure and send me the link. My email is: paulsmessyworkshop@gmail.com
I have some stuff I made already a while ago, but hand cutting things with a miter box was annoying and I had slowly started cutting into the miter box with my saw (Its plastic). Most of the projects were made using premade boxes and items from hobby lobby, but modifying them by adding different hardware and other parts because as is, they lacked personality.
I made one video of a jewelry case I made for a friend, but I focused more on the electronic portion than the rest of the construction and the castle was bought from Michael's so I didn't cut my own castle to use.
I did create the electronic portion though by hand soldering the parts together and programming the components using Arduinos as the main component. I plan on doing the same for the boxes I'm working on now, but they are prebuilt chests. The insert for jewelry I made on my own though along with a hidden compartment below that has D6 dice as the legs which were carved using a Dremel tool and a lot of sanding. The top insert will have a clear base instead of wood so you can see the "Treasure" below.
After looking at a lot of what I have seen online, I see that with a scroll saw, it would probably not be too difficult to make a castle and chests in the future. Not sure if it would be cheaper or not though.
I used my phone for the video and it took up a lot of space not to mention the fun I had with placement of the phone.
I think that you made a very nice bowl and it was not a failure! You fail only when you stop trying! That was a bad moment! I m sure everybody is waiting to see your next bowl! 👍
Margaritis, Thanks for tuning in and for the kind words. I plan on making another attempt at this type of bowl in the future. I really like the method of construction. I may very well try it with a different type of wood next time.
Good work paul
Emily, thanks for watching and for the nice comment. Happy woodworking!!
Glad to see you show mistakes, so called professionals wouldn’t admit to making mistakes. I’m a Diy’er myself.
T. Skipwadoo, thanks for taking the time to leave the great comment. I make mistakes, there, it is out for all to see. I don't think it is fair to viewer to think that I don't. I enjoy making my videos and it is great to get comments such as yours. Thanks again.
When you started showing the second attempt, there’s a crack showing in the next layer right at the tool rest before you rotate it to show the blowout. As many others have said, thanks for posting this! We all run into “situations “, but most of the RUclips gurus never show those!
Great video, watched it till the end even if had failed. As for the bowl splitting, I'm guessing if you had rotated each cutout at each level quarter turn, splitting of the bowl at the end may have been prevented.
Cloud Piper, Good idea to rotate each level of the bowl to prevent spitting. You are right, it probably would help with the splitting. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Hi Paul, your video was very enlightening. I just bought a new Delta band saw and I'm quite pleased with it's performance. I am an experienced wood worker with experience is most facts of wood working and turning. I am thinking of trying the same kind of scroll/lathe project and I will use pine but I will plane the surfaces to ensure good glue joints and I will stagger the end grain so as to minimize tare out. If I may offer you a couple of suggestions on your lathe work; 1. try to keep support on the drive and tailstock as long as possible. 2. Get your lathe speed up as fast as possible without vibration. 3. Sharpen your bowl gouge and keep it sharp enough to shear not scrape. A little practice and you can do it.
One other thing, do not use scrapers on pine (the wood fibers crush and tare very easily and that will cause big catches. Go For it!!!!
Dan, Thanks for the great advice. As you can tell that my area of expertise is not turning....LOL. Thanks for watching and for the great comment.
Great scroll saw
jessicaweaver6728, thank you.
You are the Best
Marcos, thanks for the kind words. Happy woodworking and thanks for watching.
Great video, loved it. I'm going to try this, however, I think I'll just sand it. You didn't fail, you actually helped us think of other ways to achieve making a bowl. Remember the quote by Edison: As an inventor, Edison made 1,000 unsuccessful attempts at inventing the light bulb. ... Edison replied, "I didn't fail 1,000 times. The light bulb was an invention with 1,000 steps." "Great success is built on failure, frustration, even catastrophe." Then we get that "Aha!" moment. So that's how it's done. Keep up the great videos.
That's right. Pine is a soft timber. Maybe better to sand than to lathe cut. But a great idea doing these circles on the angle - it could lead to other worthwhile projects.
Chris, sorry in the delay in replying to your comment, sometime life just gets in the way. Your comment hits it right on the head, success is an eventual result. I appreciate your taking the time to watch my video and to leave a comment. Glad you enjoyed my video.
Hi mate i enjoyed watching your video. I have never tried to make a bowl like that yet but I will, i don't have a lathe i will just sand it.
Please don't give up good luck with your next project 👍👏
This project is not a fail! There’s no such thing as a fail in woodworking. There are only classes. We are continually learning! Errors teach us.
Thomas and Jenny, thanks for the kind words. I also believe that errors are just another way of learning and teaching. I learned a lot on this project. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
First one cut out Paul , did it with compass and paper , wasn't paying much attention guess the graph paper threw me.. off ... but a little extra sanding .... Got my next pattern set up much ,better than the first one. Just want to give you and update and that we are out here doing it cause of your vid . Great teacher .
Steven, thanks for the kind words. I am glad you have had success. This is a fun project. I would like to see your final product. I would appreciate it is you would email me a picture of your project. You can email me a picture at: paulsmessyworkshop@gmail.com
@@paulsmessyworkshop Will do the project is now two bowels mostly into one Dear friend passed on and turning it into a Urn .Will send pics of final project ,thanks .
@@paulsmessyworkshop Still creating it,coming along .Will E-Mail soon.
Well, even though there was a flub-up it's still a great video. I'm gonna try that.
Lester, Thanks for watching. This is a fun project to make and uses a lot of different techniques. Good luck and happy woodworking.
Cool design. I will be waiting for Bowl 2.0 when it comes out. Hardwood next time maybe?
Jim, I am sure there will be a ver. 2.0. Gotta lick my wounds and try again. Thanks for watching.
I own a scroll saw, but I've never been able to afford a lathe. So I got excited to think I could finally make a bowl just with a tool I actually own!
6:40 A WILD LATHE APPEARS
W.D. You can by all means make the bowl with just a scroll saw. After cutting out the parts, gluing them together, it is just a matter of a lot of sanding to finish the bowl. I cheated and tried to cut some corners and as you can see in the video it didn't work. The bowl can definitely be made with just a scroll saw and sandpaper. Thanks for calling me out on this one. I appreciate the comment and for you watching.
good info and your right it happens but thats what wood turning is all about and thanks
Chico, I plan on trying this again. I will either use harder wood or if I use pine I will sand it to shape it. Thanks for tuning in and for the comment.
Thanks for sharing that
Hassan, glad you enjoyed the video. I appreciate the comment.
Great thank you. I shall use the technique to build a variable wood bowl and smooth it with sandpaper not a lathe.😀
petermcmurray2807, hope it works well for you. using sandpaper to smooth it is a good idea.
You have a beautiful lathe there, why use a scroll saw to make a bowl? Thanks for sharing Paul. When a youtuber is sincere and honest like you, I am subscribing.
David, thanks for the kind words. The reason for making the bowl on the scroll saw is mainly because of the challenge and because the bowl is being made from a single piece of wood that would normally be too small for a bowl. The original design for this bowl does not include using the lathe. Once the rings are cut and the parts are glued together then it is sanded to shape and finished. Thanks for your question and for taking the time to watch.
thanks for the video
Carlos, thanks for taking the time to watch my video. I am glad you found it useful. I appreciate the comment.
Everything is a learning experience. As others have stated before, use a hardwood, but more importantly, stagger your grain. In other words, don't line up all the end grain, stagger them 45 - 90 degrees apart. That way you have more strength around the bowl instead of two weak points on each side of the bowl.
Terry, thanks for the information. I have decided that on my next attempt I will surely be using hardwood to make the bowl.. The idea of rotating the layers to add more strength is a good one. I was trying to keep the grain going in the same direction to make it look like it flowed up the finished bowl....maybe not a good idea. I appreciate your watching.
Not a failure, Paul. A learning experience. Now I won't make that mistake. But that is because I don't have a lathe. I will just have to find another way to make a piece of firewood. I am sure I can come up with something.
Katie, If you have lots of time you can always sand that type of bowl to the finished product. That would be a lot of sanding however. Russ was telling me he has done that in the past though. I will give this project another try. Thanks for watching and leaving the comment.
there are a couple wood turners i watch and they would have used CA ( crazy glue) to fix the crack and keep going. awesome video thanks
Ray, that indeed is a good idea. I have yet to try it but I will the next time the problem arises. Thanks for the information and for taking the time to watch and comment.
Muchas felicitaciones 👏👏👏👏
Marilin,
Gracias por tomarse el tiempo de ver mis videos y por dejar un bonito comentario. Realmente lo aprecio.
Muchas gracias
Aprecio su trabajo porque es fabuloso
Thank you.
Rade, glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
Very new to scroll saw.. What TPI blade did you use? Is there a standard out there?
Gary, Welcome to the world of scroll sawing I am sure you will enjoy it. Just remember you will get better with time. On this particular project I believe I used a Flying Dutchman #3 reverse tooth blade. I don't know if there is really a standard actually when it comes to blade choice. I know that some blade manufactures show basic and general usages on their websites. If you are interested, there is a show on Twitch every Wednesday night at 7:30pm EST put on by Russ Claridy that discusses all things scroll saw. He covers everything from designing patterns, to blade choice, to cutting techniques, to finishing. He is also always open to ideas that other people have. Here is a link to his show www.twitch.tv/simplywoodencreations and like I said it is on at 7:30pm EST on Wednesday evenings. Be happy to have you in the chat, just give me a shout if you are there. Hope this has helped. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
Thank you
Steven, thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you but sometimes life gets in the way.....,LOL
I have made several sizes of this lke form of a jar. The bigone is a bout 15 inches high by approximatedlie 9-10 wide. I used 3/4 plywood oak and they are very atracyive because the layers. I did made the cut inside so the rings are one piece. I'll be glad to share some pictures that I have taken.
Thanks for the information and thanks for taking the time to comment. I would like to see your work
Great video Sorry for what happened but may be i feel that the problem is from the type of the wood ?
Shady, Yes, the type of wood had a lot to do with it. It is hard to turn thin end grain pine. Next time I may try a harder wood or try sanding to get to the final shape and thickness. One thing about it, it was a good learning experience. Us woodworkers are always learning. Thanks for watching and for your comment.
Nice
Eng. Samir Abid, Thanks for the comment and for taking the time to watch.
Cool demo and, yes, things happen. What model Hegner is that?
Rob, my Hegner is an older 18MV, I think the manufacture date is 1984. I really like the Hegner and have lots of trouble free hours on it.
Whole thing looked great! Maybe try a tighter-grained pine, or a
harder wood
Ronald, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. I agree with your suggestion about using a harder wood or a better piece of pine. Good idea.
I just bought a scroll saw for my "shop" that is a 2 car garage in Mass, just south of the NH border. Sometimes it is a mechanic's shop, but most often it's a wood shop. Have some good tools in there! Videos like yours are inspiring and helpful. Keep up the good work.
Ronald, thanks you for the kind words.
Enjoyed the video Paul. Too bad the pine didn't hold up. Maybe try some hardwood on the next one.
Dave, You are right, hardwood will probably help a lot. When I try again I think I will go that route. Pine is great for somethings but for me turning isn't one of them. Thanks for the comment.
How do you drill pilot holes to the angle
Vini, once I had the angle I set an adjustable square at that angle and used it as a guide for my drill. You could also cut a piece of wood at that angle and use it to guide the drill. Good question. Thanks for taking the time to watch and for the comment.
Plywood might be another way to make this,good idea, "Thanks"
D Maschy, plywood is an interesting idea. I have never tried turning plywood so I don't know what kind of results to expect. Thanks for watching and for the interesting idea.
in my opinion the reason was direction of wood fibres. during turning fibres come to parallel and perpendicular to knife. same pressure to knife apply different force to fibres. sorry my english
niyazi ates, you bring up a very good point. It is very possible that the direction of the wood fibers in relation to the chisel edge could be the problem. I am also not a very good turner and I am the first to admit it. Thanks for the comment and for pointing out what the problem could be. Your English is fine.
Thank you!
I like that you "failed" but I don't see it as a failure, only lessons.
Next time maybe fill the crack with resin? I'm new to this myself but it would have looked nice. Or hand sand?
Anyways....going to watch some more of your vids. thanks again
Alexcia, thanks for the kind words. I appreciate your tuning in. Making another bowl is in the future.
I'm also guessing if you'd sanded you'd have had much better luck! Still a learning video, I'll know not to do that now. Thanks and take care
J s, you are probably right about sanding the bowl. Probably attacking it with a coarse paper would have done a better job of shaping it than I did with the lathe tools. Maybe if I ever turn another one out of pine I will give that a try. Probably my next attempt will be out of hardwood. Thanks for watching and leaving the comment.
Useing a Number 5 blade ....but may change it up or down and i am using 1/4 wood ..think I'm hooked .
Steven, I am glad you are enjoying this project. I usually use a #3 blade but it really boils down to what works best for you.
@@paulsmessyworkshop Number three sweet still playing and practicing will add them to my blade selections ,thx.
Sanding would be more smooth, but great work with the saw scroll, I'm excited to try it out!
thedjkay, you are 100% right, sanding would be a much better option. That said, I am a bit lazy and thought trying to finish it on the lathe would be an easier way...WRONG!! The next one I will finish by sanding. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
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HI PAUL I ASKED WHAT PRICE TOOLS LATHE THAT MR. PAUL HAD FROM ABD THANKS
naufal, now I understand...sorry I didn't before. My lathe is an older Delta Midi Lathe, it does not have electronic speed control like the newer ones do. The new Delta Midi Lathe costs $649.00 on Amazon. There are many other manufacturers of this size lathe, Jet, RiKon, Nova just to name a few. I think all are good quality tools. Hope this provides the information you were looking for. If not please get back to me. Thanks for your comment.
My first one turned out even worse (just now). Thanks for sharing :)))
Wolfgang, not to worry, it will get better with time. That is why they call it learning. Happy woodworking and thanks for watching.
What blade size and what drill bit size are you using?
marang, if I remember correctly I used a number 3 or 5 Pegas Modified Geometry blade. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
Om tetap semangat good👍👍
Alfian, thanks
Good video, its not necessarily the lathe tho, I would scrap the Pine for some Maple 🍁, Walnut, Birch, Poplur etc Hardwoods... Thanks for sharing & I agree never give up!!
HKGuy, Thanks for watching and commenting. Believe me, I will not be turning another bowl out of anything but hardwood. I have given up on pine on the lathe.
@@paulsmessyworkshop ha ha completely here ya there Buddy... Thnx
I think I could have used MDF or plywood. The pine in the direction of the veins was narrow and easy to break. I would also use only sandpaper for the finish given the fragility of the piece. Excellent the project. Losses are part of it.
João, I think the next time I attempt this project I will either use hardwood or use a different method to do the final shaping. Maybe just sand it to the final shape. Thanks for the ideas and for the kind words. I appreciate your taking the time to watch.
Hi paul, thanks for the comment, I have an old delta midi lathe, if not used in send it to indonesia I'll replace fare kirimnya. you live where
abd, LOL
Paul that really was a great project. It's unfortunate that it did crack on you though. We all learn from our mistakes! Pine really isn't a good wood to turn anyway. Especially in a dry state. However I have seen bowls done like this that came out really cool! Russ Clairity is a great guy, and a great teacher. I'm sure that if you tried this again it would come out correctly! Many blessings to you Paul!
Tracy, Russ Clarity is indeed a great person and an excellent craftsman. I agree that pine is not the best choice to use on a lathe and on my next attempt on this project I will most definitely be using a hardwood. Learning a new technique and is what learning is all about, right? Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
Bonjour , Je suis vraiment impressionnnée par ce genre d'art et j'aimerai bien apprendre , est ce possible ??? est ce que c'est obligé d'avoir une formation de menuisier et d'avoir tout un atelier de menuisierie ou bien d'avoir seulement la machine de scie à chantourner et commencer à apprendre ??? un grand merci
Sophia,
Parmi tous les outils de mon atelier, la scie à chantourner est probablement l’un des plus faciles à apprendre. Il existe de nombreuses vidéos sur RUclips illustrant son utilisation et de nombreux sites Web proposant des modèles gratuits. N'hésitez pas à m'envoyer un email à paulsmessyworkshop@gmail.com si je peux vous aider. Bonne chance dans votre aventure du sciage à rouleaux et du travail du bois en général
Merci pour votre réponse je suis vraiment rassurée reste à comparer les marquer et choisir une scie qui m'aide à débuter .Merci encore et je vous souhaite une bonne année 2019
Hi paul, I like a lathe that Mr. got what price it's lathes
abd, now I understand your question better...sorry I didn't before. My lathe is an older Delta Midi Lathe, it does not have electronic speed control like the newer ones do. The new Delta Midi Lathe costs $649.00 on Amazon. There are many other manufacturers of this size lathe, Jet, Rikon, Nova just to name a few. I think all are good quality tools. Hope this provides the information you were looking for. If not please get back to me. Thanks for your comment.
abd, also, many of the other brands are quite a bit cheaper and every bid as good as the Delta.
Hi Paul:
I know this video is over 2 years old.
Did you ever figure out why the wood was cracking? Could there have been hairline cracks that you may have not have noticed in the begining? Maybe the grain was just too wild to turn on a lathe. Sometimes things just happen and we never know why. Maybe next time, try placing a round disk on the face of the bowl and hold it in place with the tail stock. That would help stabilize the bowl while turning. You get an "E+" for your effort.
Chuck
Chuck, to be honest I think the wood cracked and broke while trying to turn was due to user error on the lathe and my choice of wood. I was using pine. Using the lathe is not my strong point. I would have been much better off sanding it into final shape..... Thanks for taking the time to watch and for your great comment. One of these days I am going to try again but this time I will use another method to do the final shaping and a better species of wood.
Failed projects = more firewood.
Mr. Doeboy356, LOL. I tried to salvage that project but it just never happened. I will try again one of these days. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
No problem buddy