Why do so many drone auditors subject themselves to these extensive interrogations? Also, in the US, news purposes are different and distinct from commercial purposes. What’s the law in the UK?
@@interestedparty00 Maybe it's for educational and entertainment purposes, after all somebody has to educate the police because they obviously don't receive any training in peoples rights😇
2 Constables were very professional. They should be promoted, and show others how members of the public conducting perfectly legal activity should be treated and engaged with.
Yup, carrot, but stick when they blow it, sorry but the watchdog for police is 99.9% biased toward those poor police officers who have such a hard job, fine no problem, but if they screw up "consequences" we see all too often police interaction with day to day members of the public turn bad, because of bad habits and bullying, police have powers and wiggle room to use to allow discretion so if a member of the public breaks a small law by clear ignorance he can teach and help, not Judge and prosecute every slip, its OK for police to get a law mixed but not us lowlife scum known as humans
The 2 constable's used their brain and kept their mouths shut they let their sergeant to take the lead , it was a training exercise for the 2 constable's and a chance to put his recent training to the test which is all good I believe for us and them
Yeah they were really decent blokes. A* for them. They do have to check their bases, for instance if they had told him he could fly the drone and it turned out that he couldn't, and he crashed it through a window or something, the cop would be in pretty serious trouble. So they were OK really, covered their a-holes. This is how cops should be.
When the uniformed officers are smarter than the plainclothes officers you know that the old boys network is operating at full swing, the two uniformed were great
yes, cant help think the women have got a helping hand up, and easy police 'career' , yet they have the same status - dc/pc - same pay/etc....you wouldnt think it by their actions i always like to see these ladies put in their place; more often w/mouth bigger than brains; [the liberal women head teachers are also among the worst]
Sargent baldy sort of changed his tune when he realised you knew more than him . And then couldn't help himself from giving you the usual bullshit directives.
The attitude of those two fast-tracked women was atrocious. Their contempt for us is on full display. These public servants are completely drowning on power they don't actually have.
When plod ask the usual question “why specifically police stations” I think the answer (if you can be bothered to respond) should be along the lines of “what better place to invoke our rights than in front of those paid to protect those rights”
wow, she was a right tyrant. those 2 police officers were great, but like you say they should have told the DC it was legal for you to film. The trouble with using the drone is bloody petty
They are correct though about the drone laws even if it is petty. Though I guess both are more or less correct the law is very vague on a lot of points. For his class of drone all the things mentioned are illegal if they can could cause harm. Which is very vague and could reasonably be argued either way.
The Sargeant throwing around directives when he dont know what the hell he,s talking about, just something he heard from a guy who fly ,s a completely different type of drone. Typical of the cops thinking they are right because they are cop,s. Good education PTTP. Teach dem.👊
I mean he is wrong on at least one point. Legacy drones are counted as c1 rather than c0. There is no way for an older drone to be flown in the C0 class. It's also often illegal to take off from the side of the road. It's up to the local council and a large number of them have made it illegal so that is another thing I doubt either party checked.
@@henryjames5663 That leaves very few people who aren't living sad lives doesn't it? Almost everyone records in public. I make a nice living, and record in public on weekends, and on vacations at least 3x a year.
Always the same mistake. No, he was not filming inside the police station, he was filming outside the police station and all the images captured by his camera were also outside the police station. The photons carrying the images had left the police station a fraction of a nanosecond earlier and were in the public domain when the camera captured them.
Cop> You just filmed in the police station Reply> What I filmed was inside a Star 8 minutes ago, so take your INSIDE and shove it UP SOME PLACE the SUN DON'T SHINE!
The third officer, who inviegled his way into the 'consensual' conversation, clearly seeking to entrap the auditor, and is being thwarted at every turn!!
He came in trying to be a smart arse, and got beaten down by your knowledge, so he tried to get you with directives to try and gain the upper hand, but that didn’t work either 🤣😁🤣
The two uniformed officers SEEMED reasonable but they lied by saying they would have words with the 2 karens, they’re never going to correct superior officers
“I’m just curious…” is possibly the most disingenuous thing police say. They are not curious, they are looking for “something” to enforce. It’s fishing, and the laziest form of investigating after, “can I have ID as I want to check for warrants.”
You get better and better my friend, and you were already up their with the top auditors. A true case of standing true and strong to what you believe, but also reflecting the attitudes of those engaging with you.
"I'm about to start my PhD actually" "At uni?" Noooo, at his local Shell garage. I know police officers like to ask dumb questions but this one takes the biscuit.
You made a great point about the Karen needing to be educated by the PC on the spot. She was a real brute. All 3 PC's were OK really, so at least the message is getting through.
The rank is Detective Constable. It is the same rank as the uniformed Constable. Only difference is that those who are Detective Constable think they are better and superior to their colleagues. As you can see from this interaction that is clearly not the case.
Cos women generally have way less experience with confrontation with men and wet there knickers and act irrationally we all know how women react to stress lads.
The little chuckle from PC Irwin when he asked for her warrant card. I wager that they hardly ever get asked this question & are totally shocked & surprised someone might ask this! I encourage the gen public to ask for name, collar number & warrant card at every single interaction you may have with the 5-0! 😊😊😊
Love the fact that police stats on "crime" are through the roof, detection rates are laughable, and he barrels in hoping he has a valid point, and after all that he still says he doesn't mind if you fly. Petty and vindictive, he was determined to gain points and get his way, one of the most annoying police interactions is when they don't know and still push on just because they can, even in a no harm, crime situation, just because ego
I suspect he’s an intelligence officer and he’s profiling PTTP. Pay close attention to the way he draws him into the conversation, whereby he started revealing his private information. Very crafty. What a waste of policy enforcer time - unless he’s been tasked to target auditors, possibly with a view to gathering evidence for a review of the relevant legislation. Never forget, these are the foot-soldiers of the powers that shouldn’t be. They have no interest in protecting us or our rights. Peace
Being calm and friendly is just another tactic they use to acquire details. Look how much information the 3rd cop got from PTTP. Best to say very very little.
You need the telephone number of the police terrorist hotline. On a card. When they mention the t word you can give them the card and say call them now, or ring for them and hand the phone over so they can tell them they want to section 43 a photographer
It's always the female officers causing all the trouble and escalating a non crime. Those two ladies absolutely got their jobs because they went to the same weight watchers class as the chief constables wife, and don't appear to be winning the lard arse battle. Then a third dozy cow turns up barking directives and talking tosh.
They can't block a promotion. A DC means detective constable. It's just means a constable who is not doing stuff like patrolling the streets. They are of the same rank.
@@TheSadButMadLad Yup but move in different circles, but in any case criticise any other cop and you are viewed as not part of the team, that's how the bad ones manage to persist, one bad cop in three and the other two say nothing, that's three bad cops
I'm impressed to hear that PTTP is a Master Psychologist, when I first started watching his auditing videos I did detect that he was very intellectual, I admire people like that, they're never boring to listen to, are very good talkers and always have something interesting to say. I try to self teach in the areas of character and personality psychology, find both of these fields very interesting, educational and useful, have learnt quite a lot over the last few years. By no means would I claim to call myself intellectual and some sort of professional expert in those sub fields of psychology, it's purely cos I enjoy educating myself on for hobby and interest reasons. Once again another good and solid audit by PTTP, with each new video he puts out on his channel I can see his confidence grow through personal experience and knowledge when interacting with more and more police officers. Even though PTTP didn't go down the criminal psychology route but chose consumer psychology instead, his training in that particular field might still prove to be beneficial somehow when he is out auditing. I like when PTTP came straight out and said: "I'm a psychologist by training" and the sergeant, including the constable standing to the right of him both sounded impressed. The female PC in the beginning of the video, that got out her personal car to speak to PTTP was in my opinion unprofessional, rude and made a false, slanderous and insultive assumption that the auditor could of possibly been a terrorist and was engaged in hostile reconnaissance. Although the female constable didn't accuse PTTP of being a terrorist outright, her comments, opinions and remarks clearly indicated to me that this is what she was thinking and implying. The sergeant did a very good job of secretly disguising his line of questioning in a friendly, get to know you and personal consensual way, PTTP was sharp in picking up on this and quickly shut the officer down when he tried to obtain his private and personal information. PTTP was grilled hard by the sergeant, he tried everything he could think of to trip the auditor up and find something illegal that he was doing or about to do, but PTTP had already covered all of his bases and did a magnificent job of stating all the lawful facts and evidence relating to flying a 249g drone. This left the sergeant no choice in the end but to admit defeat and realise he wasn't gonna get the better of PTTP as he was more clued up on the aviation laws and regulations than he was. The sergeant probably said to his other 2 constable colleagues as they walked off: "That guy was smart and well clued up on the aviation laws, really thought I had something to pin on him as well. He hasn't got away with everything just yet, I'll go back online and find something...anything that we can use to prove he is doing something wrong and unlawful."
As polite as they were, they still have to try & leave after giving directives even though you've just proven your witt & knowledge is much superior to theirs.
Your doing an amazing job I admire you. Your knowledge and the way you handle situations. Perfect 👍. Thank you for doing what you do it helps us all. X
The attitude and ignorance are staggering. They do women no favours at all. Seriously why would any member of the public show these two women any respect at all, let alone help them with enquiries.
I hope that if I am ever in trouble with violent people, that those two police women are not the two who are sent to help me. Next to useless other than for admin work at a desk.
That main sergeant bacon was really delving for info so glad you never game him, well done for keeping your distance but that guy was trying everything to get you to stop......after 30 mins he's rubbing his head thinking i can't get him here, brilliant . Also what a waste of tax payers money 3 bacon and more basically doing ZILCH and getting paid for it............ 👏👏
Rude obnoxious individuals, the cops were terrified of them Can imagine how they throw their weight about The sergeant thinks he knows it all , he knows nothing showing off 🙄
CONGRATULATIONS on your best audit 2022 award. Well deserved great auditing all year. Keep up the good work and keep em on their toes and educate em on the law they obviously need it.
Can't believe it, Bedfordshire Police really haven't learned after their shocking arrest of Koleeberks back last year, at least some of them haven't anyway. Great video PTTP
Those fellas were polite, professional and attentive, listened to what you said, enquired and learned. The two Karen sisters, ignorant, inept and caused a tail back. You were right though, they should have said to those Karens or at least in front of them, that you were okay to carry on.
Brilliant, your vids get better and better. Loved the way you ran circles round PC Egg Head Black Jacket and once he realised that shame had hit him straight in the face, he started being all nice and chatty. The High Viz guys, top marks for them. Keep em coming.
I wonder how many times those two women have illegally identified/ abused members of the public in the past; demonstrably bully tactics. Astonishingly bad policing where they’re concerned. Kudos to the constables. Well done for putting those Karens firmly in their place . Hilarious to see their ego battered.
Those 2 PCs are as solid as they come. I hope their careers progress however they want; I know it's only a short interaction but I reckon they'd be top examples for newbie officers 👌
What a relief and pleasure it is to hear these two Officers talking such sense, and knowing the Laws pertaining to drones and photography. Well, done them!
Th two pcs were fantastic. Professional and great demeanor! The sgt was very good also. I think he was given inaccurate information for sub 250g drones but can't fault him for his demeanor also. Thank you to all the above for their service. The 3 female DCs need training in the laws and rights of the citizenry. To throw around terrorism as a catch-all is crazy! Stop that! Learn the laws and rights of the people! Waiting on the 2nd part! Thank you PTTP for your videos. I also believe that highlighting the good cops and putting in commendations is a way to give back to those LEOs that are doing their job correctly and those that go above their duty to correctly do their duties. Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦!
20:35 Three police talking to someone on the side of the road is the biggest distraction around. Everyone driving past will be rubber necking wondering why the police are talking to someone and wondering what they are arresting the person for. Well that's the only reason police talk to people - to investigate crimes. So it's reasonable for all drivers to think they are seeing someone arrested and since it's unusual they will be looking as they drive past.
What makes me laugh in all the HQ visit audits is how entitled the plod think they are to stop at the gate and hold the rest of their workforce up whilst they come and think they can force information from you. I bet if that marked car behind her put the blues and twos on she still wouldn't move because her ego wouldn't let her
They were in mufti, ie wearing clothes at work suitable for the jobs they were or will be dealing with. Sometimes they will dress to blend in with the surroundings for example.
What a great video indeed! As a drone operator you really know your stuff when talking to the police. Wasn’t so keen on that second officer who strolled up and then started to cross examine you for 20 minutes or so. But we’ll done to you my friend I’m really impressed again by your knowledge based around drone flying and what the police can and cannot do in these types of situations. You really did hold your ground in such a kind and sensible manner which is really I think the best policy. Concerning the two female officers well there is no point wasting my breath on them! Take care kind regards paul.
Much better than a lot of auditors I've seen on RUclips. You're respectful and don't go looking for reactions for your videos. You don't deliberately say things to wind the police up. Your polite and courteous if the police are with as it should be
Good to see a reasonable response from the three officers who properly engaged with you.. would be useful footage to include in all police / public servant’s induction training - STEP 1: How to interact with the public
I'm a longime audit follower and you are becoming one of my favourites up there with Focus Pocus, DJ/PJ and some dude called AB ! The male cops were great and as it should be, however the 2 Karen's at the start were awful and could have escalated something out of nothing.
I wasn't a bit surprised when you said you had a masters and was going for your doctorate in psychology. It's going to take you a few years to get back 10 years loss of earnings, but you are at least following your plan. There's no wonder your logic is flawless. All the best, Jonny.
The Officer who got some information about the drones seems to have decided he knows more than he does. The others were both friendly & interested except for the three women who sadly were quite rude & didn’t know much but thought they did. You’re doing great as per usual PTPP it’s lovely to listen to you speak with people in the manner they speak with you. Knowledge is indeed power & you have learnt a lot BUT are aware of what you may not know & learn that too as soon you can.
All 3 officers seemed pretty chilled and every one had a sensible conversation with each other, me being nit picky was when the Sgt mentioned about be careful of the road and cars that really didn't need saying but apart from that the male officers sound as a pound. Female detectives must be synchronised if they work together all the time (if ya know what I mean)
so lovely to see professional police. Its a shame they are let down by the bad ones. What a great chat and they were genuinely fascinated by you and how knowledgeable you are
@@latifismail7631 you obviously didn’t listen to the encounter with the three officers outside? When he politely and patiently explained the legislation!✊
i will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER understand why people talk to cops for any longer than is absolutely necessary. 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
I noticed you mentioned about a tethered drone. Focus Pocus uploaded a vid last week explaining the ins and outs of a tethered drone. Fascinating stuff.
Those two DC's hadn't got a clue, they reminded me of the French and Saunders comedy sketch. They were desperate to exert some authority and failed miserably.
Wow. Exactly how police officers should conduct themselves. The tyrants should be watching this and it should be used to educate them on how to interact with public photographers/auditors and moments of the public. Bravo 👏
Thanks
Thank you!
@@powertotheproletariat Your more than welcome, it might buy you a tank of petrol for your bike.
Why do so many drone auditors subject themselves to these extensive interrogations? Also, in the US, news purposes are different and distinct from commercial purposes. What’s the law in the UK?
@@interestedparty00 Maybe it's for educational and entertainment purposes, after all somebody has to educate the police because they obviously don't receive any training in peoples rights😇
@@interestedparty00 They are fighting for our rights. They are heroes and will in the future been as such.
2 Constables were very professional. They should be promoted, and show others how members of the public conducting perfectly legal activity should be treated and engaged with.
It's thanks to auditors that some constables are finally realising that they have no business confronting law abiding citizens.
Yup, carrot, but stick when they blow it, sorry but the watchdog for police is 99.9% biased toward those poor police officers who have such a hard job, fine no problem, but if they screw up "consequences" we see all too often police interaction with day to day members of the public turn bad, because of bad habits and bullying, police have powers and wiggle room to use to allow discretion so if a member of the public breaks a small law by clear ignorance he can teach and help, not Judge and prosecute every slip, its OK for police to get a law mixed but not us lowlife scum known as humans
The 2 constable's used their brain and kept their mouths shut they let their sergeant to take the lead , it was a training exercise for the 2 constable's and a chance to put his recent training to the test which is all good I believe for us and them
A daft member of the silly frauditor community wasting their time.
Yeah they were really decent blokes.
A* for them.
They do have to check their bases, for instance if they had told him he could fly the drone and it turned out that he couldn't, and he crashed it through a window or something, the cop would be in pretty serious trouble.
So they were OK really, covered their a-holes.
This is how cops should be.
When the uniformed officers are smarter than the plainclothes officers you know that the old boys network is operating at full swing, the two uniformed were great
Plainclothes because tea ladies wear smocks at work.
They were fishing never trust a cop
yes, cant help think the women have got a helping hand up, and easy police 'career' , yet they have the same status - dc/pc - same pay/etc....you wouldnt think it by their actions
i always like to see these ladies put in their place; more often w/mouth bigger than brains;
[the liberal women head teachers are also among the worst]
@@wilsondavid9873 was funny🎣🎣 "what do we call you" after all the casual talk
As an ex police officer, you are so so correct.
Funny she asks...what are you doing? Then says...you're filming inside the police station...answered her own question yet proliferates the problem.
She’s top of there glass
what u doing? ermmm im dancing in the street outside a police station what does it look like? fucking born yesterday.
So intelligent you're not inside a police station. She would be useless appearing in court.
That’s precisely how they earn the hate. I did not like either of those female officers at all. Two in uniform were great.
Sargent baldy sort of changed his tune when he realised you knew more than him . And then couldn't help himself from giving you the usual bullshit directives.
They don't like losing face so they give u some nonsense to justify the stop.
The attitude of those two fast-tracked women was atrocious. Their contempt for us is on full display. These public servants are completely drowning on power they don't actually have.
Fast tracked? They are constables
@@Neil2022 She said DC not PC. Detective constable.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 yes. In the UK they are the same rank.
@@Neil2022 I become a DC it's a promotion in seniority and leadership.
@A Sensible Young Man - Affirmative action at its finest.
When plod ask the usual question “why specifically police stations” I think the answer (if you can be bothered to respond) should be along the lines of “what better place to invoke our rights than in front of those paid to protect those rights”
Good comment.
I would say "just keeping a close eye on the pedos, rapists and murderers that infest your ranks. Anything else officer?"
How true ?
I think he's got it covered,he never seems to be short of words ,wish I could say the same for the first presenting officers lol
I'd like to see someone reply with that, it would probably cause them to overload and break
wow, she was a right tyrant. those 2 police officers were great, but like you say they should have told the DC it was legal for you to film. The trouble with using the drone is bloody petty
A bit but she backed down sharpish enough.
they were wearing a blue line flag...HOW GOOD CAN THEY REALLY BE?
They are correct though about the drone laws even if it is petty. Though I guess both are more or less correct the law is very vague on a lot of points. For his class of drone all the things mentioned are illegal if they can could cause harm. Which is very vague and could reasonably be argued either way.
I don't think the 2 male cops have any intention of enlightening the women , 1st cop kept lookin away as he was being " schooled" by the auditor.
@No Commentz Exactly
The Sargeant throwing around directives when he dont know what the hell he,s talking about, just something he heard from a guy who fly ,s a completely different type of drone. Typical of the cops thinking they are right because they are cop,s.
Good education PTTP.
Teach dem.👊
Dude please learn how the language work he’s is not he,s fly,s or cop,s it’s he’s fly’s and cop’s!
@@clintonhanson Haha, learn how the language work? Spelling and punctuation police getting it all wrong. Need to go back to school yourself.
the CAA state there is no difference between commercial or hobbyist flying apart from insurance . end of full stop.
I mean he is wrong on at least one point. Legacy drones are counted as c1 rather than c0. There is no way for an older drone to be flown in the C0 class.
It's also often illegal to take off from the side of the road. It's up to the local council and a large number of them have made it illegal so that is another thing I doubt either party checked.
Holly shit it’s 2022 and the police still don’t know that the people can record in public
we are the police and we are in charge that’s why we’ll that’s what theys nobs say 😂
Too arrogant to look up anything
On;y people who have sad lives, record in public
@@henryjames5663 That leaves very few people who aren't living sad lives doesn't it? Almost everyone records in public. I make a nice living, and record in public on weekends, and on vacations at least 3x a year.
@@henryjames5663 you sound like a guilty cop who doesn't like being filmed.
God, how hard do cops try to jam you up for the sake of ego.
Have you seen there egos
More to do with the police remit “everyone is guilty, if we say so”
I know my ass hurts too
True , True !
Always the same mistake. No, he was not filming inside the police station, he was filming outside the police station and all the images captured by his camera were also outside the police station. The photons carrying the images had left the police station a fraction of a nanosecond earlier and were in the public domain when the camera captured them.
🤣 brilliant 🙏
Fantastic response 😂😂😎, should report you to our leaders for being a geek ,, OPPPS ,I mean unusually intelligent , 😎👍
Cop> You just filmed in the police station
Reply> What I filmed was inside a Star 8 minutes ago, so take your INSIDE and shove it UP SOME PLACE the SUN DON'T SHINE!
@@davecarter2508 Excellent-I think most people don't get it but then most people are stupid...
@@colinryshaf3295 That's a bit patronising isn't it? Calm down dear!
The third officer, who inviegled his way into the 'consensual' conversation, clearly seeking to entrap the auditor, and is being thwarted at every turn!!
He came in trying to be a smart arse, and got beaten down by your knowledge, so he tried to get you with directives to try and gain the upper hand, but that didn’t work either 🤣😁🤣
@@pinkyman5155 A yawn and a blah,blah,blah to directives is a great leveller.🤗
The two uniformed officers SEEMED reasonable but they lied by saying they would have words with the 2 karens, they’re never going to correct superior officers
they seem a bit more intelligent
Not superior, just higher ranking.
@@dickenscider7328 Same rank.
They were all the same rank,but different departments and roles, there'd be no correction because of the blue gang affinity.
“I’m just curious…” is possibly the most disingenuous thing police say. They are not curious, they are looking for “something” to enforce. It’s fishing, and the laziest form of investigating after, “can I have ID as I want to check for warrants.”
With the reply that some of the USA auditors use, " I will tell you my home address after you give me yours".
@@johnvienta7622 Also good to ask the officer if he or she is under investigation for officer misconduct.
I'm just curious... Well sorry officer, I'm straight and don't swing that way!
@@jamesnew8170 , the best one I ever heard was when an American auditor was asked for his name and he replied ," your girlfriend has it on her phone".
When Ricky Gervais discovered Karl Pilkington he made a fortune. Imagine the value of these pedantic duffers.
You get better and better my friend, and you were already up their with the top auditors. A true case of standing true and strong to what you believe, but also reflecting the attitudes of those engaging with you.
"I'm about to start my PhD actually"
"At uni?"
Noooo, at his local Shell garage. I know police officers like to ask dumb questions but this one takes the biscuit.
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🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha
Love it mate - well said
Probably fishing for which Uni, to track PT down, to get info on him.
Even though it was polite enough, you could tell they were trying to get one over on you at every opportunity.
Yes but it works both ways.
No coppers are your friend, even if they make out like they are.
And failed because PTTP knows his shit.
And why shouldn't they give this twat the impression that he is being a nuisance.
I disagree, it was a conversation that had to,take place in the way it did.
You made a great point about the Karen needing to be educated by the PC on the spot. She was a real brute. All 3 PC's were OK really, so at least the message is getting through.
Exactly! Like PTTP said, those Karens will come asking questions and for IDs again in a public space.
You are a breath of fresh air. Intelligent, fair, assertive, caring about your rights. You put people in authority to shame
How did they get to that rank. Trying to bully the public is a disgrace. Saying right then getting out like they would do something is displicable
Training 😂
one of them looks like she ate herself to that position
The rank is Detective Constable. It is the same rank as the uniformed Constable. Only difference is that those who are Detective Constable think they are better and superior to their colleagues. As you can see from this interaction that is clearly not the case.
Most likely got to that position because of the bullying.
@@Mr-J... 2 walking heart attacks
“There’s no point me coming out to you not knowing what I’m talking about” says the man who came out to you and had no idea what he was talking about!
Full of what if's weren't they? What if a mouse runs across the road, farts ,and alarms a motorist into swerving .😏
😂😂 this comment needs to be pinned 💯💯
I always love when I see a notification you've uploaded a video.
Brilliant audit. You're so informative.
Also congratulations!!
It always seems to be the Women who agitate and escalate the situation.
Then flee and leave men to deal with it.
Cos women generally have way less experience with confrontation with men and wet there knickers and act irrationally we all know how women react to stress lads.
Nail on the head!
Every single time!
good point raised, well observed.
The little chuckle from PC Irwin when he asked for her warrant card. I wager that they hardly ever get asked this question & are totally shocked & surprised someone might ask this! I encourage the gen public to ask for name, collar number & warrant card at every single interaction you may have with the 5-0! 😊😊😊
Love the fact that police stats on "crime" are through the roof, detection rates are laughable, and he barrels in hoping he has a valid point, and after all that he still says he doesn't mind if you fly. Petty and vindictive, he was determined to gain points and get his way, one of the most annoying police interactions is when they don't know and still push on just because they can, even in a no harm, crime situation, just because ego
Police stats are fake
I suspect he’s an intelligence officer and he’s profiling PTTP. Pay close attention to the way he draws him into the conversation, whereby he started revealing his private information. Very crafty.
What a waste of policy enforcer time - unless he’s been tasked to target auditors, possibly with a view to gathering evidence for a review of the relevant legislation.
Never forget, these are the foot-soldiers of the powers that shouldn’t be. They have no interest in protecting us or our rights.
Peace
@@G58 and yet you'd still call them if you were the victim of a crime.
@@HH_1988 Why?
This is how they spend our money. Keep watching and you will see this is about all they actually do. Harass citizens.
These two gentlemen police officers are so cool, calm and collected. They are very personable, friendly, yet VERY professional.
Being calm and friendly is just another tactic they use to acquire details. Look how much information the 3rd cop got from PTTP. Best to say very very little.
@@adcolt54 Might be something to do with them being filmed hmm 🤔
@@stuzo666 Yep never forget they know it's gonna go out to the public, so it's " Mr nice guy " routine....🥴
@@stuzo666 👍👍
It's so encouraging to note that our police women aren't going hungry!!
You need the telephone number of the police terrorist hotline. On a card.
When they mention the t word you can give them the card and say call them now, or ring for them and hand the phone over so they can tell them they want to section 43 a photographer
The fitness levels of those two Karen’s need called into question 🏃🏻♀️🏃🏻♀️🏃🏻♀️
I think their brains went on holiday and lost their way home! Pity their ego did not go with them!
It's always the female officers causing all the trouble and escalating a non crime. Those two ladies absolutely got their jobs because they went to the same weight watchers class as the chief constables wife, and don't appear to be winning the lard arse battle.
Then a third dozy cow turns up barking directives and talking tosh.
Do you mean the FF?
"I find it odd that your filming a police station" Well I find it odd that you chose to wear that cardigan but that doesn't make it illegal does it.
Exactly that. "I find it strange you want to bully people for a living" should be the reply.
I like watching audits but this channel is next level. So polite and knowledgable. Good job mate. 👌
I doubt those 2 officers will tell the D.C what your doing is legal as she could block any promotion they may be after.
Yup the bullying doesn't just stop when they interact with the public
@@robba1234 they keep it going at home aswell.
They can't block a promotion. A DC means detective constable. It's just means a constable who is not doing stuff like patrolling the streets. They are of the same rank.
@@TheSadButMadLad Yup but move in different circles, but in any case criticise any other cop and you are viewed as not part of the team, that's how the bad ones manage to persist, one bad cop in three and the other two say nothing, that's three bad cops
@@TheSadButMadLad it was obvious she didnt do anything, mainly eating and trampling on the public's rights.
I'm impressed to hear that PTTP is a Master Psychologist, when I first started watching his auditing videos I did detect that he was very intellectual, I admire people like that, they're never boring to listen to, are very good talkers and always have something interesting to say.
I try to self teach in the areas of character and personality psychology, find both of these fields very interesting, educational and useful, have learnt quite a lot over the last few years.
By no means would I claim to call myself intellectual and some sort of professional expert in those sub fields of psychology, it's purely cos I enjoy educating myself on for hobby and interest reasons.
Once again another good and solid audit by PTTP, with each new video he puts out on his channel I can see his confidence grow through personal experience and knowledge when interacting with more and more police officers.
Even though PTTP didn't go down the criminal psychology route but chose consumer psychology instead, his training in that particular field might still prove to be beneficial somehow when he is out auditing.
I like when PTTP came straight out and said: "I'm a psychologist by training" and the sergeant, including the constable standing to the right of him both sounded impressed.
The female PC in the beginning of the video, that got out her personal car to speak to PTTP was in my opinion unprofessional, rude and made a false, slanderous and insultive assumption that the auditor could of possibly been a terrorist and was engaged in hostile reconnaissance.
Although the female constable didn't accuse PTTP of being a terrorist outright, her comments, opinions and remarks clearly indicated to me that this is what she was thinking and implying.
The sergeant did a very good job of secretly disguising his line of questioning in a friendly, get to know you and personal consensual way, PTTP was sharp in picking up on this and quickly shut the officer down when he tried to obtain his private and personal information.
PTTP was grilled hard by the sergeant, he tried everything he could think of to trip the auditor up and find something illegal that he was doing or about to do, but PTTP had already covered all of his bases and did a magnificent job of stating all the lawful facts and evidence relating to flying a 249g drone.
This left the sergeant no choice in the end but to admit defeat and realise he wasn't gonna get the better of PTTP as he was more clued up on the aviation laws and regulations than he was.
The sergeant probably said to his other 2 constable colleagues as they walked off: "That guy was smart and well clued up on the aviation laws, really thought I had something to pin on him as well. He hasn't got away with everything just yet, I'll go back online and find something...anything that we can use to prove he is doing something wrong and unlawful."
Thanks for the dissertation…..
I liked when they asked him the legislation about drone use. I had no idea he was a psychologist I imagined he was trained in law given his knowledge.
a bit foolish to divulge it - keep the authorities disempowered
i said he's going to the top from first time i saw him. he's 'The Extraudinator' lol
And he is an obsessive who needs help. I feel sorry for him.
You schooled them that much on drones the officer actually went to put his hand up to ask you the next question 😂
How much do you charge for your tutorials? Three officers on full pay while an unpaid civilian teaches them
As polite as they were, they still have to try & leave after giving directives even though you've just proven your witt & knowledge is much superior to theirs.
That's true PTTP You said it right. They'll think the cops are gonna " sort you out" instead of learning nothing is being done wrong.
I have to say, detectives seems useless at working out what a person with a camera is doing!
Makes me laugh so much when they wait for the gate to close. It's an 8ft gate, easily scalable if you really wanted to get in.
Making the Station a Safe Space for these Corporate Officers of the Blue.
@@EdzashedFudwinkle Most Police stations have outside security now at the gates. Imagine. Security for a Police station! Unbelievable.
It’s not for individuals it’s for bombs in vehicles which makes sense.
@@PaulCowderoy your comment makes absolutely no sense whatsoever
Your doing an amazing job I admire you. Your knowledge and the way you handle situations. Perfect 👍. Thank you for doing what you do it helps us all. X
The attitude and ignorance are staggering. They do women no favours at all. Seriously why would any member of the public show these two women any respect at all, let alone help them with enquiries.
I hope that if I am ever in trouble with violent people, that those two police women are not the two who are sent to help me. Next to useless other than for admin work at a desk.
@@Truthtalker365 Karen’s brain dead
That main sergeant bacon was really delving for info so glad you never game him, well done for keeping your distance but that guy was trying everything to get you to stop......after 30 mins he's rubbing his head thinking i can't get him here, brilliant . Also what a waste of tax payers money 3 bacon and more basically doing ZILCH and getting paid for it............ 👏👏
Why resort to calling the police “bacon”? It's not funny or clever. If you ever need their help, I'm sure you wouldn't be calling us names like that.
Rude obnoxious individuals, the cops were terrified of them
Can imagine how they throw their weight about
The sergeant thinks he knows it all , he knows nothing showing off 🙄
Plenty of weight to throw about😂
Why is the Sargent trying to bully you. Standard tactics no doubt. Then he backed down and changed his approach.
Excellent audit from PTTP - great interaction and footage with a cliff hanger thrown in for good luck - brilliant ! 👍👍👍
CONGRATULATIONS on your best audit 2022 award. Well deserved great auditing all year. Keep up the good work and keep em on their toes and educate em on the law they obviously need it.
Can't believe it, Bedfordshire Police really haven't learned after their shocking arrest of Koleeberks back last year, at least some of them haven't anyway. Great video PTTP
Those fellas were polite, professional and attentive, listened to what you said, enquired and learned. The two Karen sisters, ignorant, inept and caused a tail back. You were right though, they should have said to those Karens or at least in front of them, that you were okay to carry on.
Brilliant, your vids get better and better. Loved the way you ran circles round PC Egg Head Black Jacket and once he realised that shame had hit him straight in the face, he started being all nice and chatty. The High Viz guys, top marks for them. Keep em coming.
I wonder how many times those two women have illegally identified/ abused members of the public in the past; demonstrably bully tactics. Astonishingly bad policing where they’re concerned.
Kudos to the constables.
Well done for putting those Karens firmly in their place . Hilarious to see their ego battered.
Fatal, once you start answering questions, they never stop asking more.
Knob Head Sargent got a tiny bit of Info then made a Complete ARSE of himself
Those 2 PCs are as solid as they come. I hope their careers progress however they want; I know it's only a short interaction but I reckon they'd be top examples for newbie officers 👌
3 great officers. Good watch.
What a relief and pleasure it is to hear these two Officers talking such sense, and knowing the Laws pertaining to drones and photography. Well, done them!
Th two pcs were fantastic. Professional and great demeanor! The sgt was very good also. I think he was given inaccurate information for sub 250g drones but can't fault him for his demeanor also. Thank you to all the above for their service. The 3 female DCs need training in the laws and rights of the citizenry. To throw around terrorism as a catch-all is crazy! Stop that! Learn the laws and rights of the people!
Waiting on the 2nd part! Thank you PTTP for your videos. I also believe that highlighting the good cops and putting in commendations is a way to give back to those LEOs that are doing their job correctly and those that go above their duty to correctly do their duties.
Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦!
20:35 Three police talking to someone on the side of the road is the biggest distraction around. Everyone driving past will be rubber necking wondering why the police are talking to someone and wondering what they are arresting the person for. Well that's the only reason police talk to people - to investigate crimes. So it's reasonable for all drivers to think they are seeing someone arrested and since it's unusual they will be looking as they drive past.
Extremely valid point lol
What makes me laugh in all the HQ visit audits is how entitled the plod think they are to stop at the gate and hold the rest of their workforce up whilst they come and think they can force information from you. I bet if that marked car behind her put the blues and twos on she still wouldn't move because her ego wouldn't let her
The Two ' Lovely Ladies' at the beginning used to be well known in the VIZ comic.
Honestly, the outfits of those two auld birds at the beginning, is that what passes as suitable attire to represent your force.
They were in mufti, ie wearing clothes at work suitable for the jobs they were or will be dealing with. Sometimes they will dress to blend in with the surroundings for example.
What a great video indeed!
As a drone operator you really know your stuff when talking to the police.
Wasn’t so keen on that second officer who strolled up and then started to cross examine you for 20 minutes or so.
But we’ll done to you my friend I’m really impressed again by your knowledge based around drone flying and what the police can and cannot do in these types of situations.
You really did hold your ground in such a kind and sensible manner which is really I think the best policy.
Concerning the two female officers well there is no point wasting my breath on them!
Take care kind regards paul.
Sergeant couldn't resist trying to repeatedly trip you up then threw in several directives
Those first two uniform officers were a credit. Pride in their uniform too.
Much better than a lot of auditors I've seen on RUclips. You're respectful and don't go looking for reactions for your videos. You don't deliberately say things to wind the police up. Your polite and courteous if the police are with as it should be
Police officers Read memos from your Superiors do not engage people with cameras taking Pictures in Public
Karen should be more concerned about losing some timber...
Good to see a reasonable response from the three officers who properly engaged with you.. would be useful footage to include in all police / public servant’s induction training - STEP 1: How to interact with the public
Get your hands out of your pockets 😂
I'm a longime audit follower and you are becoming one of my favourites up there with Focus Pocus, DJ/PJ and some dude called AB ! The male cops were great and as it should be, however the 2 Karen's at the start were awful and could have escalated something out of nothing.
I wasn't a bit surprised when you said you had a masters and was going for your doctorate in psychology. It's going to take you a few years to get back 10 years loss of earnings, but you are at least following your plan. There's no wonder your logic is flawless. All the best, Jonny.
Yeah it's not all about the money, I'd rather do this and follow my passion ✊ thanks mate
@@powertotheproletariat , at least you will have plenty of research available for your thesis.
Three officers tossing it off instead of doing real work is the story here.
The Officer who got some information about the drones seems to have decided he knows more than he does. The others were both friendly & interested except for the three women who sadly were quite rude & didn’t know much but thought they did. You’re doing great as per usual PTPP it’s lovely to listen to you speak with people in the manner they speak with you. Knowledge is indeed power & you have learnt a lot BUT are aware of what you may not know & learn that too as soon you can.
All 3 officers seemed pretty chilled and every one had a sensible conversation with each other, me being nit picky was when the Sgt mentioned about be careful of the road and cars that really didn't need saying but apart from that the male officers sound as a pound. Female detectives must be synchronised if they work together all the time (if ya know what I mean)
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The 'menstrual mafia'. 🤪
And the Sgt was shot down in flames on every petty point he tried to make, what a muppet.
SGT THINKS HE'S GONNA CATCH YA BY FISHING, he's getting frustrated swimming around in circles not getting any specific details heh heh.
so lovely to see professional police. Its a shame they are let down by the bad ones. What a great chat and they were genuinely fascinated by you and how knowledgeable you are
look at the magic finger uniform police summoning power display at 2:00 😳
“You’re going to love it when I get the drone over in a minute” 😂😂😂
She had her hand on her hip she ment business lol.
I totally appreciate you sir... from the folks of Pennsylvania who defended us from the monarchy!
What a lovely well spoken auditor
PCO Erwin, no-yeah-no-yeah-no-yeah...
just keep driving. Stop soliciting, you're not a vendor, you're a public servant...😂😂
Top class as usual 👏 brilliant PTTP
What a decent conversation, and props to the PhD, in a field which I throughly enjoy and find intriguing, didn't pursue it but well done.
Again it seems to be that when plain clothes officers start the encounter they bail out when confronted on law.
@@latifismail7631 you obviously didn’t listen to the encounter with the three officers outside? When he politely and patiently explained the legislation!✊
@@latifismail7631 It’s 250gms. You can film anything from a public place as determined by Parliament. It can’t be any easier than that too explain.
@@latifismail7631 why Don’t you ask Them!!
At 2.18 the police woman stated we are at "high risk", what she should followed on with "chronic obesity" from eating too many donuts & kebabs ?.
i will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER understand why people talk to cops for any longer than is absolutely necessary. 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
To make for an entertaining video in this instance.
Content for this vid bud
I actually didn't know my eyeballs could roll back so much. So thanks for that 🤣
"You're filming inside of the police station".... I'm surprised you didn't stop her right away asking "Oh, was I inside the police station?"...
Directives, directives, directives....😂😂😂💡
I noticed you mentioned about a tethered drone. Focus Pocus uploaded a vid last week explaining the ins and outs of a tethered drone. Fascinating stuff.
brilliant reaction from the officers at the beginning! credit to the force
Those two DC's hadn't got a clue, they reminded me of the French and Saunders comedy sketch. They were desperate to exert some authority and failed miserably.
Wow. Exactly how police officers should conduct themselves. The tyrants should be watching this and it should be used to educate them on how to interact with public photographers/auditors and moments of the public. Bravo 👏
Respect to the lady at 2:20 who is flying the Union Flag from her own head
The way she got out that car was supposed to intimmidate you and come right up to your face, it's a power trip.
They have absolutely no idea how ridiculous they sound. We could never call out their stupidity until we had cameras protecting us from them.
Best one so far in my opinion! Great interaction, everyone came away with some new knowledge! Civil discourse and building bridges! Excellent!
I love your work so so much!