The arrogance of never being wrong, while having no idea of their own policies... You keep running rings around them, PTTP. And you dont have too much time on your hands, you're spreading good info about people rights, a solid service.
Making up a crime to kick you out is shameful. Talking over you as you prove he's wrong. Telling you he doesn't need to tell you he is recording. Wrong un.
That woman was a great example for this station, if every officer had her attitude and friendly personality, the world would be a great place. I hope she sees this!
The ex Cop Lady was a blast. I'm not a biker but I can't even imagine the rush doing 186 mph on a bike. People such as her are inspirational to me. They have lived life and won already. What a Woman!
The old lady was really nice. Shout out to her and her family. Unfortunately the tyrant piggy who thinks hes a hero is misinformed on alot of things. Hes family calls him a hero but the public will forever know him as the tyrant he is.
Clearly the Police Procedure to inform you of bodycam is to ensure that all police employees are complying with the Data Protection Act 1984. So what he is suggesting is that this law does not matter, it does not apply to him & is therefore elevating himself above the Law. If so, how many other Laws is he able to ignore or abuse at will. Then you look at his defaced racist union flag, showing he is a member of the GANG and you know for certain he believes he can do whatever , whenever… He is a disgrace to the force, an embarrassment to any family & to the local,community
PC 1823 Sparkling Water looks like he’s about to do a couple of numbers for Oliver the musical at 18:47, starting with ‘I’d Do Anything’ and ending with ‘Consider Yourself’.
Pc Perrier is an utterc unt. Trying to invent a charge by trial and error is not part of their job. Imagine this power tripping prat off camera with someone that’s not adverse in the law???
being a toolbag hinders his progress , even in cognitive function. He needs time to calmly rock himself into gear & focus fine hand coordination to tap in the letters ...... p o l iss e e 4 k a mr a . You lot are very harsh on the poor, limited dolt.
There's a surprise. A cop who breaks GDPR laws. Breaks his own policies and abuses the powers entrusted to him by us. But he seems to think that he's the person in the right and above us. Attempts to go out of his way to fit an offence to what he's doing. That is criminal behaviour. Your meant to know the offence first.
😂😂😂 totally genuine that’s funny 😂 you don’t know the police you never heard of good cop bad cop they pretend to be your friend all there doing is finding as much info as possible
The police wasted much more time and they are paid from the public purse. What is your shoulder number ?????. For supposedly busy people, surely one of them could have done this job.
I hate the phrase "You have too much time on your hands." It belies the aim of the system to keep you occupied either producing or consuming. If you have free time you become a nuisance. Keep the drones occupied.
He certainly was not suited and hated you telling him about his body-cam, which I am glad you did. The lady was lovely at chatting nicely. Well done and thank you PTTP.
@@powertotheproletariat Agreed, and I don’t know if she drives a car but I always think if you have driven a motorcycle, like you are doing, (and her) you make a much better car driver as you realise a lot of the dangers, etc 😁
Yeah, he was a bang bad copper, just on a mega ego trip, obviously had nothing better to do, to just stand there for 30 minutes trying to find a way to arrest someone.
They have to check what he's doing as he ignores signs saying private and report to reception 🙄. If he did what they asked he could have an uninterrupted visit but that wont get him the clicks to make money will it 😁
I make no apology for copying and pasting what I posted above, this was a seriously flawed audit that could have escalated towards a lawful arrest were it not for PC Stupid being so gormless and failing to respond correctly to what amounted to an act of civil trespass ... "Far from brilliant - good in bits but when on police property you must leave when instructed to do so as your right of access is only an implied right. In theory the PC could have physically removed the uploader from the grounds of the facility as a completely lawful response to an act of civil trespass. If the uploader were to resist such removal, he could have been arrested as then breach of the peace and aggravated trespass (a criminal offence) comes into play. Too many auditors make this basic error which seriously undermines the PINAC movement. Record them all you like from the public footpath, off their property, and yes launch your
Far from brilliant - good in bits but when on police property you must leave when instructed to do so as your right of access is only an implied right. In theory the PC could have physically removed the uploader from the grounds of the facility as a completely lawful response to an act of civil trespass. If the uploader were to resist such removal, he could have been arrested as then breach of the peace and aggravated trespass (a criminal offence) comes into play. Too many auditors make this basic error which seriously undermines the PINAC movement. Record them all you like from the public footpath, off their property, and yes launch your
Must say I was impressed with lady's passion on motorcycling at end it was lovely to see her speak like a woman not a uniform. You were called to this vocation and we thank you
the joke is that if you weren’t recording they would violating you in every way - thank you for exposing their corrupt ways that they get away with 99% of the time
The pc clearly has paranoid issues and then trying to incriminate you and abuse his powers. Public order because he did not like or his feelings ego was hurt bless. POOR DO BETTER
Live just 5 mins away from here and glade someone has done a audit. I have seen many many police cars using their lights and sirens to get the traffic to move out the way as soon as they have abused their authority and got ahead of the traffic then they turn them off. Shame you never caught any today.
The rat thin blue line badge: “In the early 1970s, the term ‘Black Rats’ existed as a derogatory name for the unforgiving officers of London’s Metropolitan Police Traffic Division (Traffpols); they were known to be strict and would not hesitate to report their own mother for speeding, or another officer (particularly one from the CID) for some violation or another.”
Like this definition too: Originally Met traffic officer. Now in general use. Alledgedly chosen as a motif because it's one of the only animals that'll actually eat it's own young! Until fairly recently a traffic officer could place a black rat sticker in their private car as an unobtrusive way of 'showing out' to colleagues, in the hope that they wouldn't get pulled for driving offences etc. Now-a-days it's more than likely that the car doing 90mph in front of you with a rodent sticker on it's number plate isn't actually being driven by a Black Rat, but a slag boy racer who's chancing his arm. Give him a tug.
"Does anybody know you're here?" For God's sake say; "Yes, and if I fail to check in within an allotted time a highly trained task force will be coming to investigate!"
Yeah he was Nuts. Was googling his job with a rat on his uniform standing there with his tiny balls out.. The lady was class she can judge a character. Pttp isn't a threat and she knew that knob cop was planning on nicking him. She tried to get pttp away.. That's coppers nose right there. It's what pc Google lacks
@@aboveandbeyond9844 By not giving your name is joining a very famous Club of Recent times But I suppose your sense of right and wrong are not mine thank goodness
So the secret is out SHE IS A MOTORCYCLIST with a total love and understanding of bikes. She has a lovely attitude and would be fun to sit in a pub with and swap stores.
at around 11:52 PTTP had the PC over a barrel and forced him to escalate. He was put on the spot with several people watching, including his colleagues. PTTP then grilled him, interview style into attempting to explain the specific law and failed. PTTP explains this and even the colleague (who knows about lorries) had to interject and confirm this. It was going to be an intimidate exercise (threaten with arrest) and 'make up the law' afterwards situation. I wonder how many times this happens ?🤔
@@Red_9279 She walked him to the road. She pretended to be nice and chatty but she was obviously hoping to see his bike parked up so she could get his registration number.
The fella in the glasses was right I feel and was polite too. You ignored the sign and your arguments against that were a little weak. Billy Big Cop was not pleasant, agreed! Lady was pleasant too.
Perrier blew it big time! What a rude little boy, continually interrupting! Thinks sticking his thumbs in his Batman vest, plus a gang badge makes him look tough. Ha, ha, ha!!!!! Doesn't even know his own policy re filming with his camera!
@@richardpaquette8429 yes and not only that but everybody knows that in order to “breach the peace” the breach needs to be both “Real and Imminent” (Foulkes v Chief Constable of Manchester police) .
The policeman is right. If the sign says "Visitors must report to reception", then you can't argue that the signage does not say "No unauthorised access".
We have to obey the law, to do that we must know what the law is, the police don't seem to care about actual laws and can get aggressive when meeting someone who know a bit more than they do , it's more about egos and power with them, they have to win, we are not the enemy, they should have way more respect for law abiding citizens and save all that pent up anger for criminals.
Does anyone in any job know every aspect of their job, or do they often seek advice? It’s easy to criticise when you’re not in the hot seat, and being deliberately provoked.
@@kissofjudaz Total nonsense ! If a member of the public with a camera can research basic laws then a copper certainly could as they need to know which laws they can legally enforce, it's not good enough to get by on pure bluff & bluster! also, any copper that needs 'advice' on trespass law needs re-training.
A total of 52,741 laws have been introduced in the U.K. as a result of EU Legislation since 1990, imagine how many laws the U.K. has in total, and you seriously expect any Police Officer to know all the laws? I would agree there would be some basic requirements, public order offences.
@@kissofjudaz I know the laws on trespass, I also know that just about every time the police misuse a law, we, the tax payer, have to fund compensation claims. At least know the laws that you try to enforce, that'll do for a start. I, just like PTTP, will always make sure I am not breaking any laws if I'm not sure.
Damn - I was thinking of going for a walk this afternoon, but don't want to concern them. God forbid I distract them from monitoring Facebook and the gram.
Breach of the peace Regina versus Howell 1982 states a breach of the peace occurs when someone has the fear of being harmed to give someone the fear of being harmed you have to use threatening and or abusive language or hold a threatening and or abusive sign. It also goes on to say once a breach of the peace has passed there is no breach of the peace its PASSED. So I would argue while there are 3 tyrant pigs are there their is no breach of the peace.
Aye, and not only that but after the case of Trevor Foulkes ( Foulkes v Manchester police) the judge said that the breach must be “real and Imminent” so on that on this occasion the police were proved to be have been wrong to use a breach of the peace. So as we may know Mr Foulkes was only trying to get back into his house after having been locked out by his Mrs (if my memory serves me right) the two constables just used it as a means to an end. I am not surprised that Mr Foulkes was aggrieved at being locked up.
@@Red_9279 complete your education to the level that I am/have and then tell me about hard work. Hard work doesn't have to mean physical grafting. I stand up for what I believe and act on it, nothing more British than our rights.
@@Red_9279 interesting views you have there. Let me check you on it, I don't claim any benefits from the government. I did for a short time during COVID due to a reduce in opening hours of where I worked and therefore there weren't enough hours available. I can assure you that all of my income is fully declared in line with the requirements. How would you begin to know if I had a UTR or not? 🤔😂 And I believe that change can be made this way, by and large it is better now than it was 2-3 years ago. These people can change the way that THEY act which will impact how others act around them. It's the ripple effect. One person can't influence parliament but I can influence handfuls of people at a time.
@@Red_9279 I'd say he's part of an auditing culture that keeps police behaviour in the public eye. It could go some way to repairing public trust in the police. An MP can't do that.
Well done for standing up against the fool of a cop who would have definitely got a ‘jobsworth’ award years ago (for those oldies who remember the TV programme😀).
14:55 - the chap 'being detained longer' was probably a fellow auditor arrested for flying a drone / wearing a mask / not wearing a mask. In which case I doubt they'd be concerned about their welfare.
The rubbish about the badge is pathetic. For PttP & any other mug who likes to do this stuff heed to understand, the wearing of a Union Flag is not against regs. Second, The College of Policing is not the rule making or policy body for any particular force. The Chief police officer is responsible for the policy in advising members of the public are advised. Although, he should have told you he was recording and his video should have had a sticker telling the public that a video was in operation when the light was on. The latest models also have the serial number of the device. The end result will be PttP will be served an injunction banning him and any other self-appointed “auditor” from trespassing upon police property. Waltzing around HQ and an operational station is far different. PttP claims 40-odd people watch his video, when he knows many more do. The issue you can see anything from a drone, but not something that's viewable from someone who is standing next to something, such as a window or next to a car etc.
PTTP please be the first auditor to report and sue the police officer for not informing you his body camera was recording you. It will only take one officer to be fined and disciplined to change the way police deal with their body camera footage.
@@SensibleCentrist but that's not the poster said. He said sue them for not informing you his camera was on. That's not a crime. That's completely different to a GDPR breach
@@SensibleCentrist your interpretation on covert will not be defined the same by the defence and the court. I certainly wouldn’t say it was covert, especially since I can see the light blinking, I can hear the audio signal from the camera reminding me it is recording and I will assume they are recording since they have a camera, and just like myself I record all interactions with people so I would certainly assume my interaction with them is being recorded. Law and policy are not the same and we can argue semantics all day but you will not find any judge willing to prosecute an officer simply because you weren’t told you were recorded on there bodyworn camera. Try it, if you’re so confident you’ll successfully prosecute an officer then put your money where your mouth is and defend someone in that situation and become a lawyer who specialises in suing the police for not telling you they recorded you. I think you’ll struggle.
It's a secure area where we park our armed police cars ...... Yet it's totally open for anyone to walk around. You think the police would know about such things as locked gates ,fences and walls to make it a REAL secure area.
It so frustrating and infuriating that the police and personnel never let anyone have an actual conversation by letting them finish their sentences. They just have to CONSTANTLY interupt and monopolize they conversation and interject their own biased subjective opinion on what you are doing and how things should be
Then in their witness statements they'll say you continually spoke over them, didn't listen & were threatening & abusive. I have witness statements with the police doing exactly that. Before the reply was finished, they were dreaming up the next line of attack & voicing it. I have a recording of it. It proves they're projecting their actions onto me.
Perrier is one of the bad coppers who should never have been taken on in the first place! The stench emanating from his personality is sickening and I fear for the safety of his wife and children!
The 2 driving instructors was, as Nice as they could be, they deserve a shoutout I'm convinced that the Queen's funeral have taken a lot of pc's away around the country, so the stations and HQ's is left with the Village idiots, just look at the auditor Auditing Yorkshire, where it was an inspector. Really great audit PTTP, your talking skills get's a A+
The lady is a decent human being. Plus she knows her bikes as well (she's right about the 186 mph speed she hit - equates to the 300 kmph limiter on the bike!) The PC as expected, fancies himself as a psuedo paramilitary. Attitude, tough guy stance, looking for any opportunity to nick you...some things never change....
@@asensibleyoungman2978 maybe she was, maybe she wasn’t but she was a diplomat and did her best to de-escalate the situation. PTTP is a big boy and knows his stuff so wasn’t going to get caught out. It’s all a game and she was playing it within the rules as was PTTP, the PC was breaking the rules though.
@@ThatMicro43Guy Diplomat my arse. She walked him to the exit. Was she being kind or was she hoping to see his parked bike so she could get his reg number? You're very naive if you think she was just being kind.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 PTTP is bright enough to walk in the opposite direction to where his bike is when he has a 'guide' with him, and bright enough to possibly see another bike and pretend that's his bike, so they run checks on the wrong vehicle. I saw an American auditor do that, they asked him 'is that your truck?' And he didn't confirm or deny, he just sorta went 'umm', and dollars to doughnuts, they ran the plates. It was amusing to watch. 😁
This cop like the 3 the other day always say we're very busy but can stand around for ages discussing/bullying/questioning and it seems are lying to the public, the 3 the other day were standing around for 1 1/2 hours doing ZILCH, like this cop is today........ Money for old rope these guys are getting, their bosses should tell them to get out on the streets patrolling and preventing crime instead of hiding behind the gates of cop shops........how embarrassing was that Bacon looking up a law to try to trap you and didn't know the ruling on a body worn camera, the trainers of these cops should be retrained themselves......
"I'm not going to discuss that with you" Is the go to answer when you have them on the run and they know it. "It is a secure area" If it were secure the you couldn't access it, it is like a little secret society that no-one else can join. Keep up the good work.
In an act of civil trespass where the owner/occupier or their authorised agent has requested you to leave and effectively revoked your implied right of access and you refuse to leave, the same owner/occupier/authorised agent may lawfully use reasonable force to remove you from the property. If you resist such an act you are committing a criminal act - aggravated trespass. You did fail to leave immediately upon request - the PC would have been legally able to physically take you by the arm and lead you off the property and if you had resisted he could have lawfully arrested you for aggravated trespass and breach of the peace. When entering any private property to which the public have an implied right of access, you must comply with all reasonable and lawful terms & conditions and any instructions of authorised agents. there is no legal requirement for signage. That is where you are in the wrong. The PC was in the wrong in... failing to identify himself upon initial contact, if he was recording you using his police body cam he failed to notify you at the beginning - he had ample opportunity to do so. I 100% support the PINAC movement but once you are on private property you must comply. Too many auditors like you get this wrong. Most of what he did say was bullshit but he did have the authority to revoke your implied right of access and you failed to comply. Also I would not volunteer the information that you travelled by motorcycle - the PC could have followed you to your bike and ID'd you from the registration.
These public servants need to understand that auditing is not about getting negative reactions but more about getting positive reactions that don’t infringe on the publics rights!
Lol and a Rat.. kind of fits the figure 🤣🤣🤣. Had to subscribe. awesome work. 1 of the most composed, stright to the point, no giving up auditors to date.
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Great content, very well versed in civil trespass criteria.
Well done for exposing PC Gormless ..... doesn't exactly inspire confidence does it ???
I've seen a lot of auditors but you are the best. Excellent knowledge of law, human rights and regulations.. keep up the great work!
“We do not merely destroy our enemies, we change them. Do you understand what I mean by that?”
― George Orwell, 1984
The clock struck thirteen ...
@@ademolaadeleye3116 Love it
No
Not a fucking clue mate. 2022.
@@JazzFunkNobby1964 it means it’s not death of body or mind, but of identity. And to rewrite it with one of another’s choosing
The arrogance of never being wrong, while having no idea of their own policies... You keep running rings around them, PTTP. And you dont have too much time on your hands, you're spreading good info about people rights, a solid service.
Making up a crime to kick you out is shameful. Talking over you as you prove he's wrong. Telling you he doesn't need to tell you he is recording. Wrong un.
@Kens UK Adventures why is that “ Force” needed?
That copper needs to reign in his ego.
Absolute legend. Calm, witty…Hat off to you :). Keep up the incredibly good work educating people.
That woman was a great example for this station, if every officer had her attitude and friendly personality, the world would be a great place. I hope she sees this!
I've pinned it so if she watches she'll see it ✌️
@@powertotheproletariat She only walked you to the road because she was hoping to see your bike parked up so she could get your reg number.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 quite likely 😂
PC 1823 wants to trade freedom for security, so he deserves neither.
A. Lincoln
@@powertotheproletariat Maybe she needs a commendation, very profressional, friendly and approachable, just like any officer should be
The ex Cop Lady was a blast. I'm not a biker but I can't even imagine the rush doing 186 mph on a bike.
People such as her are inspirational to me. They have lived life and won already. What a Woman!
30mph on a bike feels like 150mph in a proper vehicle
The old lady was really nice. Shout out to her and her family. Unfortunately the tyrant piggy who thinks hes a hero is misinformed on alot of things. Hes family calls him a hero but the public will forever know him as the tyrant he is.
I say cowards.
clueless comments from idiots who think they are above the law
Clearly the Police Procedure to inform you of bodycam is to ensure that all police employees are complying with the Data Protection Act 1984. So what he is suggesting is that this law does not matter, it does not apply to him & is therefore elevating himself above the Law. If so, how many other Laws is he able to ignore or abuse at will. Then you look at his defaced racist union flag, showing he is a member of the GANG and you know for certain he believes he can do whatever , whenever… He is a disgrace to the force, an embarrassment to any family & to the local,community
Legend has it Perrier is still stood there trying to find something to arrest PTTP for!
LMAO 😆😆
PC 1823 Sparkling Water looks like he’s about to do a couple of numbers for Oliver the musical at 18:47, starting with ‘I’d Do Anything’ and ending with ‘Consider Yourself’.
Pc Perrier is an utterc unt. Trying to invent a charge by trial and error is not part of their job. Imagine this power tripping prat off camera with someone that’s not adverse in the law???
I think he suspected him of being an International Super Mega Terrorist. 😄
being a toolbag hinders his progress , even in cognitive function. He needs time to calmly rock himself into gear & focus fine hand coordination to tap in the letters ...... p o l iss e e 4 k a mr a . You lot are very harsh on the poor, limited dolt.
that plods face when you said .... ''With a rat on it '' 😂 he looked pissed and the other dude looked like he was living a dream 😂
There's a surprise. A cop who breaks GDPR laws. Breaks his own policies and abuses the powers entrusted to him by us. But he seems to think that he's the person in the right and above us. Attempts to go out of his way to fit an offence to what he's doing. That is criminal behaviour. Your meant to know the offence first.
Surprised?
Cop mugged himself right off. Had a rat on his police uniform. What a twat
There was no breach of GDRP
The commercial auditor is also a data handler for ABC corporation who he's subcontractor for.
It is called abuse under the colour of law and is actually a serious crime!
What a diamond that lady is she showed so much maturity and respect totally defused the situation she was star of the show x
Grow up. She was just trying a different tactic to get his details, e.g finding out where he'd parked his vehicle. They're all the same.
@@jananilcolonoscopu4034 Disagree
@@TheNeverFinishedProject Disagree
Quick question, where are you parked?
Good cop, bad cop. Oldest trick in the book.
Oh dear, Perrier is nothing but a drip. Incompetence, ignorance and pettiness is ingrained in them.
Another embarrassment for policing.
He will go far.
The dude had a rat on his uniform. Wtf is wrong with him.
Perrier was wet.
Hey show some respect! He is protecting us from International Super Mega Terrorists and I dont doubt he was in The SAS, Super Army Soldiers. 😄
The female police officer was a credit to the police. Good audit.
Talking down to you like you're child the cop is a smug tyrant
That lady was brilliant, totally genuine and caring. It's folks like her that viewers should phone up and commend
Genuine? No way. Just a different approach to find info.
@@stevegray1308 disagree totally 👍
Absolutely, spot on there Gordon 🙌
😂😂😂 totally genuine that’s funny 😂 you don’t know the police you never heard of good cop bad cop they pretend to be your friend all there doing is finding as much info as possible
Hello my well informed friend keep up the brilliant work you do 🏴👍🏻✅✅✅
"Too much time on your hands" from someone who has just wasted 30 mins in fruitless failed exercise of personal power.
The police wasted much more time and they are paid from the public purse. What is your shoulder number ?????. For supposedly busy people, surely one of them could have done this job.
"`I`ve got other work to do but I`m choosing to stand and argue with you and disregard PINAC" - PC Silly
Top marks to the police staff lady. Wasn't playing to the camera, she was just a very skilled negotiator. 👍
the only one playing to the camera is the plank holding the camera
I hate the phrase "You have too much time on your hands." It belies the aim of the system to keep you occupied either producing or consuming. If you have free time you become a nuisance. Keep the drones occupied.
The smug faced cop is the reason for the disconnected between police and public. He was clearly trying to impress the sergeant, thug.
He certainly was not suited and hated you telling him about his body-cam, which I am glad you did. The lady was lovely at chatting nicely. Well done and thank you PTTP.
Thanks Eliz! Genuinely liked the lady, I feel like she's a wonderful mother and grandmother (if she has kids and grandkids)!
@@powertotheproletariat Agreed, and I don’t know if she drives a car but I always think if you have driven a motorcycle, like you are doing, (and her) you make a much better car driver as you realise a lot of the dangers, etc 😁
That one plod flicking through his phone while ignoring you pointing out GDPR rules epitomises the problem with UK cops.
He spent all that time trying to work out how to spell GDPR
Geee Deee Peee Arrrgggh
He was making an online order for more donuts
They are just really afraid of the people.
Yeah, he was a bang bad copper, just on a mega ego trip, obviously had nothing better to do, to just stand there for 30 minutes trying to find a way to arrest someone.
When a Police officer mentions 'terrorism'. He's talking BS
Those police officers claim they so busy but appear to have all the time in the world to debate about filming and trespass.
Absolutely, clearly very busy. Shame they couldn't just be like the first guy who asked if I'm okay
Typical idiots the filth nowadays
Yep, try to get one to come round your house when it's been robbed, NO CHANCE BUT THEN THATS A REAL CRIME.
busy doing nothing
They have to check what he's doing as he ignores signs saying private and report to reception 🙄. If he did what they asked he could have an uninterrupted visit but that wont get him the clicks to make money will it 😁
Yes PPTP!! You're in a league of your own when it comes to auditing. Nicely done mate.
Thanks Rav! Appreciate your support mate ✊
I make no apology for copying and pasting what I posted above, this was a seriously flawed audit that could have escalated towards a lawful arrest were it not for PC Stupid being so gormless and failing to respond correctly to what amounted to an act of civil trespass ...
"Far from brilliant - good in bits but when on police property you must leave when instructed to do so as your right of access is only an implied right. In theory the PC could have physically removed the uploader from the grounds of the facility as a completely lawful response to an act of civil trespass. If the uploader were to resist such removal, he could have been arrested as then breach of the peace and aggravated trespass (a criminal offence) comes into play. Too many auditors make this basic error which seriously undermines the PINAC movement.
Record them all you like from the public footpath, off their property, and yes launch your
Brilliant audit. Especially when you corrected the constable about his body cam. Lol brilliant
Thanks Bee! Stay tuned for some good London ones! ✊
Far from brilliant - good in bits but when on police property you must leave when instructed to do so as your right of access is only an implied right. In theory the PC could have physically removed the uploader from the grounds of the facility as a completely lawful response to an act of civil trespass. If the uploader were to resist such removal, he could have been arrested as then breach of the peace and aggravated trespass (a criminal offence) comes into play. Too many auditors make this basic error which seriously undermines the PINAC movement.
Record them all you like from the public footpath, off their property, and yes launch your
Must say I was impressed with lady's passion on motorcycling at end it was lovely to see her speak like a woman not a uniform.
You were called to this vocation and we thank you
In the meantime by becoming palsy with him she finds his bike and IDs him from the registration.
I think the word "Knob" was invented for this male Officer
the joke is that if you weren’t recording they would violating you in every way - thank you for exposing their corrupt ways that they get away with 99% of the time
The pc clearly has paranoid issues and then trying to incriminate you and abuse his powers. Public order because he did not like or his feelings ego was hurt bless. POOR DO BETTER
Live just 5 mins away from here and glade someone has done a audit. I have seen many many police cars using their lights and sirens to get the traffic to move out the way as soon as they have abused their authority and got ahead of the traffic then they turn them off. Shame you never caught any today.
The rat thin blue line badge:
“In the early 1970s, the term ‘Black Rats’ existed as a derogatory name for the unforgiving officers of London’s Metropolitan Police Traffic Division (Traffpols); they were known to be strict and would not hesitate to report their own mother for speeding, or another officer (particularly one from the CID) for some violation or another.”
Like this definition too: Originally Met traffic officer. Now in general use. Alledgedly chosen as a motif because it's one of the only animals that'll actually eat it's own young! Until fairly recently a traffic officer could place a black rat sticker in their private car as an unobtrusive way of 'showing out' to colleagues, in the hope that they wouldn't get pulled for driving offences etc. Now-a-days it's more than likely that the car doing 90mph in front of you with a rodent sticker on it's number plate isn't actually being driven by a Black Rat, but a slag boy racer who's chancing his arm. Give him a tug.
Very interesting observation. I think this is the sort of copper that even other coppers would not like.
"Does anybody know you're here?"
For God's sake say; "Yes, and if I fail to check in within an allotted time a highly trained task force will be coming to investigate!"
Perrier approached some colleagues chatting with the public and thought "nah this is far to civil, time to bundle in and stop this"
What a lovely lady! Full credit to her service!
He was every thing a police officer shouldn't be.
Here here
But everything that the police are
Yeah he was Nuts. Was googling his job with a rat on his uniform standing there with his tiny balls out.. The lady was class she can judge a character. Pttp isn't a threat and she knew that knob cop was planning on nicking him. She tried to get pttp away.. That's coppers nose right there. It's what pc Google lacks
Actually, all three officers were fine in their conduct.
@@aboveandbeyond9844 By not giving your name is joining a very famous Club of Recent times But I suppose your sense of right and wrong are not mine thank goodness
So the secret is out SHE IS A MOTORCYCLIST with a total love and understanding of bikes. She has a lovely attitude and would be fun to sit in a pub with and swap stores.
Yeah and as she walked him off the premises she bagged his bike registration and obtained his ID that way.
at around 11:52 PTTP had the PC over a barrel and forced him to escalate. He was put on the spot with several people watching, including his colleagues. PTTP then grilled him, interview style into attempting to explain the specific law and failed. PTTP explains this and even the colleague (who knows about lorries) had to interject and confirm this. It was going to be an intimidate exercise (threaten with arrest) and 'make up the law' afterwards situation. I wonder how many times this happens ?🤔
You think this PC was bad, just wait until you see the sergeant I spoke to today! Shocking the stuff he was trying to make up 😂
@@powertotheproletariatlol!
Copper with the glasses was class to be fair … great video
The lady really nice, fantastic to see how calm and relaxed she was.... They need more people like her 😉
al oh - smiling assassin, all those friendly questions have an ulterior motive.
She was fishing.
She was obviously retired and running some sort of course.
@@Red_9279 She walked him to the road. She pretended to be nice and chatty but she was obviously hoping to see his bike parked up so she could get his registration number.
@@zeden2924 Yep me thinks it was a performance for the camera hmmm 🤔
The fella in the glasses was right I feel and was polite too. You ignored the sign and your arguments against that were a little weak. Billy Big Cop was not pleasant, agreed! Lady was pleasant too.
They just don't get it, do they?
They cannot see why we the people want to hold them to account.
Why they're hated !
O'h they get it alright
She was a delight, that female officer 👌👍
Perrier blew it big time! What a rude little boy, continually interrupting! Thinks sticking his thumbs in his Batman vest, plus a gang badge makes him look tough. Ha, ha, ha!!!!! Doesn't even know his own policy re filming with his camera!
That that copper is why they have a bad reputation we'll done for winding him up 😂
It is funny when you ask the officer about breach of the peace he did not want to discuss it.
He's a Piece officer. 🤣
Peace
@@richardpaquette8429 yes and not only that but everybody knows that in order to “breach the peace” the breach needs to be both “Real and Imminent” (Foulkes v Chief Constable of Manchester police) .
A piece of?
Because he was talking utter nonsense that is why
I laughed at the part where you said he’s looking for any legislation 😂😂 he was desperate to find some to rid you off the site
You can see the ego pouring out of that tyrant, Well done pttp 👏👏👏👍
Hi sxxy
The policeman is right. If the sign says "Visitors must report to reception", then you can't argue that the signage does not say "No unauthorised access".
12 mins in, that PC is a complete piglet
I think one of the most important things they can start teaching officers is that they are NOT the law. They only uphold it.
We have to obey the law, to do that we must know what the law is, the police don't seem to care about actual laws and can get aggressive when meeting someone who know a bit more than they do , it's more about egos and power with them, they have to win, we are not the enemy, they should have way more respect for law abiding citizens and save all that pent up anger for criminals.
Does anyone in any job know every aspect of their job, or do they often seek advice? It’s easy to criticise when you’re not in the hot seat, and being deliberately provoked.
@@kissofjudaz Total nonsense ! If a member of the public with a camera can research basic laws then a copper certainly could as they need to know which laws they can legally enforce, it's not good enough to get by on pure bluff & bluster! also, any copper that needs 'advice' on trespass law needs re-training.
So you know all the laws then, by your own submission, you can’t obey the law unless you know them.
A total of 52,741 laws have been introduced in the U.K. as a result of EU Legislation since 1990, imagine how many laws the U.K. has in total, and you seriously expect any Police Officer to know all the laws? I would agree there would be some basic requirements, public order offences.
@@kissofjudaz I know the laws on trespass, I also know that just about every time the police misuse a law, we, the tax payer, have to fund compensation claims. At least know the laws that you try to enforce, that'll do for a start. I, just like PTTP, will always make sure I am not breaking any laws if I'm not sure.
Imagine being this afraid at your workplace. These cops are terrified of the average man and woman.
Damn - I was thinking of going for a walk this afternoon, but don't want to concern them. God forbid I distract them from monitoring Facebook and the gram.
Not his first rodeo,he's been watching and learning!🤣
Breach of the peace Regina versus Howell 1982 states a breach of the peace occurs when someone has the fear of being harmed to give someone the fear of being harmed you have to use threatening and or abusive language or hold a threatening and or abusive sign. It also goes on to say once a breach of the peace has passed there is no breach of the peace its PASSED. So I would argue while there are 3 tyrant pigs are there their is no breach of the peace.
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Aye, and not only that but after the case of Trevor Foulkes ( Foulkes v Manchester police) the judge said that the breach must be “real and Imminent” so on that on this occasion the police were proved to be have been wrong to use a breach of the peace.
So as we may know Mr Foulkes was only trying to get back into his house after having been locked out by his Mrs (if my memory serves me right) the two constables just used it as a means to an end. I am not surprised that Mr Foulkes was aggrieved at being locked up.
She was lovely and it was a pleasure to listen to your discourse on your walk, thanks for sharing.😁😁😎😎👍👍
*An incredibly British argument with the Police. All that was missing was big mugs of milky tea and Garibaldi biscuits.*
They never offered and I forgot my thermos 😂
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@@Red_9279 complete your education to the level that I am/have and then tell me about hard work. Hard work doesn't have to mean physical grafting.
I stand up for what I believe and act on it, nothing more British than our rights.
@@Red_9279 interesting views you have there.
Let me check you on it, I don't claim any benefits from the government. I did for a short time during COVID due to a reduce in opening hours of where I worked and therefore there weren't enough hours available.
I can assure you that all of my income is fully declared in line with the requirements. How would you begin to know if I had a UTR or not? 🤔😂
And I believe that change can be made this way, by and large it is better now than it was 2-3 years ago. These people can change the way that THEY act which will impact how others act around them. It's the ripple effect. One person can't influence parliament but I can influence handfuls of people at a time.
@@Red_9279 I'd say he's part of an auditing culture that keeps police behaviour in the public eye. It could go some way to repairing public trust in the police. An MP can't do that.
Well done for standing up against the fool of a cop who would have definitely got a ‘jobsworth’ award years ago (for those oldies who remember the TV programme😀).
He politely asked for your name so that he could politely run your private details in the hope that he could find a reason to politely lock you up.
Love your vids!
Btw, been 8 years on a 125CC cruiser, finally made the DAS, on a 900CC cruiser right now - well worth it! Advising you to just do it!
14:55 - the chap 'being detained longer' was probably a fellow auditor arrested for flying a drone / wearing a mask / not wearing a mask. In which case I doubt they'd be concerned about their welfare.
The rubbish about the badge is pathetic. For PttP & any other mug who likes to do this stuff heed to understand, the wearing of a Union Flag is not against regs. Second, The College of Policing is not the rule making or policy body for any particular force. The Chief police officer is responsible for the policy in advising members of the public are advised. Although, he should have told you he was recording and his video should have had a sticker telling the public that a video was in operation when the light was on. The latest models also have the serial number of the device.
The end result will be PttP will be served an injunction banning him and any other self-appointed “auditor” from trespassing upon police property. Waltzing around HQ and an operational station is far different. PttP claims 40-odd people watch his video, when he knows many more do. The issue you can see anything from a drone, but not something that's viewable from someone who is standing next to something, such as a window or next to a car etc.
PTTP please be the first auditor to report and sue the police officer for not informing you his body camera was recording you.
It will only take one officer to be fined and disciplined to change the way police deal with their body camera footage.
I dont think you can sue Its police policy not law.
@@SensibleCentrist true otherwise if it gets taken to court it would get thrown out
@@SensibleCentrist but that's not the poster said. He said sue them for not informing you his camera was on. That's not a crime. That's completely different to a GDPR breach
@@SensibleCentrist your interpretation on covert will not be defined the same by the defence and the court. I certainly wouldn’t say it was covert, especially since I can see the light blinking, I can hear the audio signal from the camera reminding me it is recording and I will assume they are recording since they have a camera, and just like myself I record all interactions with people so I would certainly assume my interaction with them is being recorded. Law and policy are not the same and we can argue semantics all day but you will not find any judge willing to prosecute an officer simply because you weren’t told you were recorded on there bodyworn camera. Try it, if you’re so confident you’ll successfully prosecute an officer then put your money where your mouth is and defend someone in that situation and become a lawyer who specialises in suing the police for not telling you they recorded you. I think you’ll struggle.
haha youre funny
These coppers just like to hear themselves talk....blah, blah, blah!
Blurted out the trespass then when he got tied in knots his ego just wouldn't let it go. Just made himself look even more ridiculous.
"you cant explain to people when you are out on a bike" so true , she sounds like a fun person.
It's a secure area where we park our armed police cars ...... Yet it's totally open for anyone to walk around.
You think the police would know about such things as locked gates ,fences and walls to make it a REAL secure area.
"It should be signed as restricted access", but.........
(So they know it should be ------ But nobody can be arsed to do it.)
But then again nothing ever is really secure.
next time someone asks" is anybody know you are here?" just reply "yes, my mom and my dad' LOL!!!
It so frustrating and infuriating that the police and personnel never let anyone have an actual conversation by letting them finish their sentences. They just have to CONSTANTLY interupt and monopolize they conversation and interject their own biased subjective opinion on what you are doing and how things should be
It's a tactic to get people annoyed. So they act emotionally. It used to escalate a situation.
and he allows it. CONSTANTLY stops talking when they talk. he literally allows it.
That's why you have the right to remain silent.
This is why I always laugh when they say, “You’re just trying to bait us into doing something…”
Bottom feeders will always bite.
Then in their witness statements they'll say you continually spoke over them, didn't listen & were threatening & abusive. I have witness statements with the police doing exactly that. Before the reply was finished, they were dreaming up the next line of attack & voicing it. I have a recording of it. It proves they're projecting their actions onto me.
Those clowns waste public money.
Perrier is one of the bad coppers who should never have been taken on in the first place! The stench emanating from his personality is sickening and I fear for the safety of his wife and children!
And pets..
@David Revell feelings
@@a-bootiful-mind6648
Exactly ! Why does no one understand this ? Tacit acceptance of your colleagues’ abuses makes you a coward and filth
He’s throwing out blunt directives like the blunt instrument he is.
Class..
I've come to the conclusion that police workers love auditors because it gives them an excuse not to be getting on with their jobs.
What a first class Bellend 🔔 that PC was.
The lady at 15:03 seemed very polite with good people skills, specifically de-escalation.
Let's face it, you're looking for a reaction. If you are that interested in police cars, join the job.
Plod Perrier, trousers bloused thinks he's SAS.
They put on the clown suit and the circus begins. Bring your own balloons.
@ 20:02 “serve the public and help people out” what a laugh. 😂
The 2 driving instructors was, as Nice as they could be, they deserve a shoutout I'm convinced that the Queen's funeral have taken a lot of pc's away around the country, so the stations and HQ's is left with the Village idiots, just look at the auditor Auditing Yorkshire, where it was an inspector. Really great audit PTTP, your talking skills get's a A+
Auditing Yorkshire's video was actually taken a month ago, before the Queen had died.
@@HoratioChinn That Inspector should now be on "gardening" leave. Never to return!
hands in vests and pockets ,pants in boots
The lady is a decent human being. Plus she knows her bikes as well (she's right about the 186 mph speed she hit - equates to the 300 kmph limiter on the bike!)
The PC as expected, fancies himself as a psuedo paramilitary. Attitude, tough guy stance, looking for any opportunity to nick you...some things never change....
She was fishing. It was good cop, bad cop.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 maybe she was, maybe she wasn’t but she was a diplomat and did her best to de-escalate the situation. PTTP is a big boy and knows his stuff so wasn’t going to get caught out.
It’s all a game and she was playing it within the rules as was PTTP, the PC was breaking the rules though.
@@ThatMicro43Guy Diplomat my arse. She walked him to the exit. Was she being kind or was she hoping to see his parked bike so she could get his reg number? You're very naive if you think she was just being kind.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 PTTP is bright enough to walk in the opposite direction to where his bike is when he has a 'guide' with him, and bright enough to possibly see another bike and pretend that's his bike, so they run checks on the wrong vehicle.
I saw an American auditor do that, they asked him 'is that your truck?' And he didn't confirm or deny, he just sorta went 'umm', and dollars to doughnuts, they ran the plates. It was amusing to watch. 😁
@@ianhill4585 I know he is. That wasn't my point. My point was, she thought she'd outsmart him.
This cop like the 3 the other day always say we're very busy but can stand around for ages discussing/bullying/questioning and it seems are lying to the public, the 3 the other day were standing around for 1 1/2 hours doing ZILCH, like this cop is today........ Money for old rope these guys are getting, their bosses should tell them to get out on the streets patrolling and preventing crime instead of hiding behind the gates of cop shops........how embarrassing was that Bacon looking up a law to try to trap you and didn't know the ruling on a body worn camera, the trainers of these cops should be retrained themselves......
Very nice lady mum Nan top girl 👍🏿🤪😜😃 186 mpo she meant in her dreams silly boy
For someone who’s so busy and doesn’t have the time for this, he sure does seem to have a lot of time for this!
That’s one of their common lies.
Yeah that was complete bull, the ego maniac is probably still there flicking through his phone.
He has plenty of time to hang around doing not a lot.
Pubic and private in the UK isn't straight forward.
Just look a public schools 😆
😂😂😂 he hated that he couldn’t get you on anything
The lady was nice , he can take some lessons from her
Love the engagement with lady PC. So pleasant and friendly. And a Biker so extra points.
You were near my house 😂
They’re trying to sell off that whole site and turn it into a giant housing estate. The locals are pretty against it.
"I'm not going to discuss that with you" Is the go to answer when you have them on the run and they know it. "It is a secure area" If it were secure the you couldn't access it, it is like a little secret society that no-one else can join. Keep up the good work.
Pttp well schooled she was spot on will they ever learn keep up the fine auditing respect
In an act of civil trespass where the owner/occupier or their authorised agent has requested you to leave and effectively revoked your implied right of access and you refuse to leave, the same owner/occupier/authorised agent may lawfully use reasonable force to remove you from the property. If you resist such an act you are committing a criminal act - aggravated trespass. You did fail to leave immediately upon request - the PC would have been legally able to physically take you by the arm and lead you off the property and if you had resisted he could have lawfully arrested you for aggravated trespass and breach of the peace.
When entering any private property to which the public have an implied right of access, you must comply with all reasonable and lawful terms & conditions and any instructions of authorised agents. there is no legal requirement for signage.
That is where you are in the wrong.
The PC was in the wrong in... failing to identify himself upon initial contact, if he was recording you using his police body cam he failed to notify you at the beginning - he had ample opportunity to do so.
I 100% support the PINAC movement but once you are on private property you must comply. Too many auditors like you get this wrong. Most of what he did say was bullshit but he did have the authority to revoke your implied right of access and you failed to comply. Also I would not volunteer the information that you travelled by motorcycle - the PC could have followed you to your bike and ID'd you from the registration.
These public servants need to understand that auditing is not about getting negative reactions but more about getting positive reactions that don’t infringe on the publics rights!
Yeah, I see plenty of good interactions with coppers on auditing vids. However there are a lot of bad apples in the force that we need weeding out.
Lol and a Rat.. kind of fits the figure 🤣🤣🤣. Had to subscribe. awesome work. 1 of the most composed, stright to the point, no giving up auditors to date.
There should be a law against hostile copslaining too 🤣 🐷