Clear threat from the female officer on the public record “ we’ll go down another route” When there is no legal route to go down , both clearly but hurt because your not immediately following there unlawful orders
Yes it's that little phrase that gets me. In five words this would-be tyrant tells us everything we need to know about a systemic bullying culture that disregards the law if it suits them. Chilling.
Did you see her face on camera when she turned about and looked at her pal??? Completely mind blow that someone's not bowing down to her uniform, absolutely brilliant!!
Think about it, how many innocent members of the public that insidious twot and his insidious colleagues have had arrested, jailed, fined with lives ruined because of their lies,, off camera.
And this to a clued up adult - just think how he treats our children, elderly or other vulnerable groups. We do not need/want such ignorance on our streets and we certainly do not want to be paying for it.
I love the fact you told him NO, you wouldn’t be answering him or ‘holding on’ for him. He has absolutely no authority over you and you made that completely clear. Brilliant. 👍
Initially, I believed that auditing was solely about exploiting RUclips for financial gain and antagonizing law enforcement and other public entities. However, I've come to realize that my perception was flawed. Auditing is fundamentally about safeguarding my human rights and confronting any individual or organization that violates them. Videos like this shed light on systemic issues and aim to hold authorities accountable. These audits serve as a means to weed out corrupt and abusive elements within law enforcement, reinforcing the principles of integrity and professionalism within the police service. Thank you, auditors, for your commitment to upholding justice and preserving the integrity of our society.
To me it is all of the above plus it respects and salutes the millions that sacrificed their lives yesterday so that we could live free today! The police not only trample their memory and their graves with their behaviour but then desecrate the flag they fought under.
@@powertotheproletariat yes and plenty of free spaces including a multi storey car park. Never mind harassment of a pilot which could also harm the public!
What's the betting they are parked illegally because the car park is full of personal vehicles. They want free parking and they abuse their public office to get it. That is the very definition of corruption. Hence they are very worried about photographs of personal vehicles because that's the evidence for the corruption.
@@powertotheproletariat On the personal number plates. 1. Are you a police officer? 2. Is parking in Croydon expensive? 3. Is one of your cars in the compound and are you worired people will find out? 4. So these pollice cars are parked illegally here because your vehicles are in the compound 5. So you don't want your number plates filmed because its evidence of your corruption. Abuse of office for personal gain.
"Why are flying this drone over the police station?" "Because that's where I want to go." I would have great difficulty in no falling over laughing at these remarks. You are the best auditor.
On the radio it says a mother and a 6 year old child !!!! Was assaulted....... yet they continued to harass the guy who was doing nothing wrong. They didn't even flinch to move to that disturbing call...... they make me sick
They'd soon have moved if the radio had announced that their was a mother and six year old child being stripped search in the station especially if it was a six year old girl or the doughnut wagon had arrived.
Protecting their registration plates, and themselves always overrides the needs of the public. If they allow their skin to thicken, they’ll have to do real work.
@@Enfors It's a touch more serious than philosophy. "Article 6 of the Human Rights Act 1988 provides citizens in our country the right to a fair and public trial or hearing in relation to both criminal and civil matters. Section 2 of Article 6 states , “Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law”.
@@AspenDarkfire Brilliant sentiment till you see these bullies at work their opinion is EVERYONE is guilty I just have to prove it (after I make it up) In the lower courts due to expedience for small charges its guilty unless you can prove innocent, and the "duty solicitor" is often there to facilitate that, he might throw you a bone (reduced charge or say that you have been no trouble in the past) to make it look like he is trying but, seeing is believing. But it is changing in some courts a policeman's word, is NOT what it used to be (definitely not in a Juries eyes)
Exemplary mate! Great attitude, decorum, reasonable, articulate and knowledgeable. You are becoming one of the best (if not already). Fair play to the sergeant too, he was also exemplary. Two reasonable people having a reasonable conversation. What a breath of fresh air 🙂👍🏽
19.12. The female copper says in desperation of you ignoring her perceived authority, if you refuse their request to land it we can "go down a different route if that's what you prefer" You asked what route, she said " offences",. You asked what offence? she goes silent and her clueless male colleague says "I don't know if you've got a licence so I'll take the drone off you!!!! Just when you thought the depth of incompetence has been reached, they always manage to find a bigger shovel and just keep digging a bigger and bigger hole for themselves!!! Keep up the good work mate, and it was great to see you in the video.
It's amazing how long they "let" you fly your Drone. I laughed like hell! Their lack of control over you as a citizen alarms them and drives their Clown mind into Infinity. Very good job. Very professional.
Best Auditor out there by a mile. Your self-control and knowledge of the law really upsets those officers who behave in an unreasonable manner. Your conversation with the sergeant towards the end really summed it all up. Suspect he got wind of the stupid behaviour of the previous contacts and started shi....g himself so tried to avert big problems down the road. Great work PTTP!
Absolutely superb work Mr. Proletariat! Very many thanks for standing up for us, the 'little' people, and showing us our rights in the face of Police ignorance and tyranny.
Who would've though that the absolutely easiest way to put cops to shame is to simply film them and they handle the rest. It's beyond me how too many cops and all criminals live with them selves. It's almost worse being a bad cop than a criminal because a criminal rarely tries to suggest that they are doing things to protect society whereas a cop uses that excuse to threaten, violate and incriminate. Besides, if you're flying a drone that you have to have a license for it would be more reasonable to assume you have that license that to assume that you don't. This exposes how unreasonable, petty and childish ignorant cops are.
You sum up PTTP's argument completely, they have to have reasonable grounds to suspect he does not have a license, not just assume he hasn't and that was exactly the point he made so eloquently.
_"It's almost worse being a bad cop than a criminal"_ A criminal will threaten, violate and assault you . . . and once they have your bike / phone / wallet they're gone. A police officer will threaten, violate and assault you (regardless of your lack of guilt) . . . and the trouble has only just begun, after the initial attack you are probably looking at 18 months + of being dragged through the legal system, in and out of courts, all the while knowing you might lose everything, your job, your liberty, your family (not just your phone or wallet).
They genuinely believe they are some sort of protected species or something. They are exempt from being filmed, their building is exempt and unfortunately their brains are exempt from knowledge of their job.
PTTP you are literally one of my internet heroes. Youve got such a good way with your words, and how you structure your defence against malpractice/abuse of power. Well done!
Not the 1st time I'm writing this: you are one of the best English auditors: accent, language skills, approach, education, reasoning, behaviour. Thanks for your work ;)
Don't know how many times I've watched videos like this and the women cops are often the worst protagonists and tyrants. They give these people a costume and it goes to their head, thinking that the public must yield to their every demand even when you've not broken any law.
U could a call coming through on the radio about a 6 year old been assaulted while there all standing around watching a man do lawfull activity tax money well spent .
What part of it's an offense to interrupt a Pilot flying that they don't understand? Last Sargent seemed a good guy, I hope we have more like him training the recruits. Another excellent audit.
JUICY!! 😂 bloody brilliant. Aww thanks for the shout out 😊 means a lot! Always dominating them and making them look sooo silly. Lewisham next? 😂 il work for you and each week il tell you where your meant to go 😂 loved the last sergeant and his approach, very respectful and polite. More police need to behave like this, it’s not ok to constantly think everyone is guilty until proven innocent. I don’t know what’s happened throughout the years but it seems they’ve forgotten that’s it’s innocent till proven guilty. Happy you went to Croydon :) Lewisham and Charing Cross next 😜
Glad you enjoyed it! haha I probably won't do London again until the new year now, got plans for somewhere else next week and that should see me through the festive period hopefully :) But I'll get around to Lewisham and Charing Cross (again) they are the gifts that keep on giving :D The last sergeant was a top fella, definitely a much better approach! And I agree, they have forgotten that we're innocent until proven guilty. We're all treated like criminals these days
@@powertotheproletariatexactly 🎉 they are the gifts that keep on giving 😂 you have my email now so let us know when you back around my ends :) thanks again for auditing Croydon:)
Very quick bite there. As always bloody brilliant. The fact you are so knowledgeable and articulate really puts them in their place. Credit to the good and nice Sergeant.
@@powertotheproletariat The second sergeant was not as 'nice' as you think..... he was still trying to make excuses for the other tyrant constables/sergeant and he still tried for your details at the end there ! He just knew that he had to behave himself , that's all . ..... I would have asked that stupid female if she had learning difficulties ( when she kept on at you , having been told NOT to interfere with a pilot ! ).... And these are supposed to be professionals are they ??
At 17.30 - if he can't see the drone enough to see the licence, he can't see the drone enough to tell whether its marketed as a toy either, so he doesn't know if it even needs a licence. Police never learn that 'presumption of guilt masquerading as objective reason is what furnishes auditors with a living', yet it never gets old...
"You're not allowed to....protected premises". Poor sods. They've only got a bloody great wall and gate there! You handled this so well and I'm pleased that the sergeant at the end was on hand. Asking if you were an auditor came out again. To me, that's becoming discriminatory against auditors and , in their minds, provides the reason for the poor attitude they give you. I also wonder if the bloody illegal parking outside the stations will ever be stopped!
When they are so rude and aren't in uniform you should insist on a warrant card. The police staff ID is not sufficient, that's the Wayne Couzens problem all over again.
Police: "FIlming private number plates is a massive terrorist security national emergency threat" Also police: "Let me just jump out of my private vehicle to accost an innocent member of the public"
Excellent public audit from start to finish. Like the beard and first time we have seen you clearly Sir. Happy Christmas to you , your family, all subscribers and anyone dropping in.
20:24 & 20:30 the look of disdain on the WPC’s face because you won’t jump to their every whim. Well done PTTP for the way you stood up to them and stood up for your rights. The last uniformed sergeant was decent and appeared to take your valid points on board.
The sergeant @6':58" says PTTP is making up the idea that he claimed the police station was a 'protected' area, here's the actual exchange @3':45", the sergeant has either got short term memory issues or is simply lying about what he said. Officer: "You won't be flying that over the police station" PTTP: "Why not?" Officer: "You're not allowed to" PTTP: "Says who ?" Officer: "It's protected premises"
They have absolutely no problem with going to peoples homes, interrogating people in their cars, BUT when THEIR place of work is disturbed, they just cant handle it!! Not only that, look how many Cops are there doing nuffin', and no REAL crimes being investigated! Well done, I love your videos. Greetings from Australia.
Once again we see multiple examples of arrogance, lying, incompetence and ignorance. Not just at the PC level which could be blamed on their training but also at Sgt level who it is fair to assume should have greater experience and knowledge. Exceptionally well handled once again, your ability to differentiate and change your approach so quickly after having been riled is highly commendable. It would seem that those Police Officers who don’t personally like something are prepared to try and bully and even lie to satisfy their feelings.
Arrogance, lying, incompetence and ignorance? Those are the requirements to be employed as a police officer. They won't accept you without them. I have never seen a police officer behave in any other way.
Absolutely disgusted that not only did they breach data of a mother and 6yr old being assaulted, but to also keep the volume on their radios up loud when the CAD number was said. Thank god for the last Sargent who patiently waited until you landed the drone before asking you anything. He also told the 'tyrant "that's public order offence" constable to go as he was handling the situation. Once again, what a fantastic audit PTTP, stay safe out there 👍🏻
This is, without a doubt, one of my personal favourites. "Arrest me and caution me otherwise it is an offence to distract a drone pilot." Much can be learned from this skilled Master of the art of verbal judo.
If you are ever the subject of an assault, a break in or any other serious crime…… just call the police and say there is a man with a camera here. They will assign all units asap. 🤦♂️
If you stand outside a police station flying a drone over it you're going to get spoken to because there are police in the building. Just as if you stood outside a mcdonalds and flew a drone over it you'd get spoken to by a mcdonalds worker because mcdonalds employees work there.
@@Fartman3000 If it's a lawful activity, which it is, then there is no reason to speak to him in the first place! How about go away until an actual crime is being committed! It seems like the Police spend more time policing what they feel rather than actual crime. There is a reason you are not to police on hunches these days, because the police on a hunch generation arrested and harrassed innocent people ON A HUNCH! Go back to bed, dinosaur
@@Fartman3000 Funny ain't it theirs always 🐖 s in 🐖 stations when someone is legally filming but they NEVER have anyone to attend when a member of the public reports a crime. Corporations they respond within minutes the only times other than when an auditor is filming the station they move that quick is when theirs a vunerable child they can strip search and molest or the doughnut wagon arrives. The 🐖 s appear to have six priorities these days in order they are Protecting ignoring Grooming Gangs,Strip Searching/Molesting children,Protecting/ignoring Corrupt colleagues,harassing auditors or people legally filming them, harassing, arresting Christian street preachers and increasing the deaths of those in 🐖 custody at every opportunity.
IT'S CRAZY THAT A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY THAN THE POLICE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE UPHOLDING THE LAW. (ALWAYS RECORD THE COPS AT ALL TIMES, IT COULD SAVE YOUR LIFE OR SOMEONE ELSE'S LIFE PEOPLE) Keep up the great work @PTTP and stay safe people, peace. 🥊 🥊 🥊 👍 👍 👍
You’re starting to become one of my Favourite auditors! Fair play pal, u know The law, u stand up for yourself and if they treat you bad u go in on them! Well done.
my favourite part of these videos are when they charge at you with their inflated egos and they immediately get deflated when you know rights and they look like scared children
I am concerned about you flying a drone over the police station up goes the drone brilliant.😂🤣😂 You and focus pocus are the 2 best auditors in the UK by far.
Totally agree they are both polite knowledgeable and articulate. This leaves no scope for being done on public order or anything and runs rings around your average copper. I used to like AB, but over the last year or so he's started making personal insults towards the person he's interacting with, regards their appearance or their weight Etc, totally unnecessary, and he has lost all credibility with me. It's cringing to watch him sometimes, the things he comes out with
I am so disheartened by the attitude of middle ranking police officers. It makes you wonder what was happening before smart phones with videoing capability became common. The ease at which these people can lie and twist words is jaw dropping...reminds me of 6 year olds caught out. Carry on the good work and I admire your push back when confronted by ego driven individuals.
What happened? Same stuff which happens today, they know they're not accountable to their actions. Wait till you realise how many people go missing at the hands of police officers. There are bad people in the world and some of them wear a uniform.
What a concern that sergeant 137 blatantly lied and insisted he never said that it was a protected area, and that PTTP was “making it up.” How many times has this dishonest sergeant had someone arrested and convicted for an offence that they never committed based on his false evidence☹.
He actually said its fair enough to speak to someone flying a drone , even he said over a protected site , these cops need to learn the law, the sergeant was copsplaining
You I now this you handled that lot so well also the final police officer was absolutely spot on . Well done pttp and the last police officer . Hats off to both .
I honestly have not seen a truly in corrupt pc no matter how bad or nice they can’t help themselves from breaking the law they are addicted to this process too the point they don’t even understand what it is there doing wrong !!!deep loathing of the public syndrome
That's a lovely video - illustrates perfectly the right and the wrong way for police to approach the public.. Well done mate... Pretty much the perfect audit video and illustrates perfectly why auditors do what they do and why they NEED to do what they do.
Sarge at the end was fab, and a great role model for way it needs to be done. But boy, he must have a busy day. It's obvious Sergeant Bellend (did I say that correctly) from the start needs spoon feeding at meal times. In Bellends defence though, for Croydon he's gifted. I think there were about a dozen officers involved in total, and I hope they're reading this: do they think that their actions portray them well. Bellend denting his actions, all of them checking their phones for the law, giving unlawful orders and making up 'rules' and congesting their own yard and the highway, all for a bloke with a drone? I'll give them a hint, they looked like a joke. Well done for standing your ground. Think you'd make a great lawyer btw, you'd get paid for debating with people
If disturbing a pilot is an offense, you should press this issue harder. It's the _only_ offense in the whole situation, and they ignore it blatantly to worry about "might be" and "could be."
What a brilliant audit . "The Presumption of Innocence" , described by the Court of Appeal as being 'the golden thread' running through the web of English criminal law whereby the accused bears no burden of proof. In this audit the police officers clearly feel that you must prove to them your innocence by showing them your license. This is a very significant feature of UK law and practically re-establishing this concept with face to face interactions between Police and Auditors should perhaps become the focus of more Audits. The legal and justified refusal to respond to a "Stop and Account" , which you do in a first class way, serves as a masterclass for other auditors who often 'rise to the bait'. I don't know what the police are taught nowadays but they seem to feel that the public 'must' answer them and that a failure to answer a 'stop and account' somehow provides them with 'grounds for reasonable suspicion'. It does not. This is a concept that needs to be exposed and eliminated. Great content. I touch my forelock to that final Sergeant for his professional and polite approach. Thank you for this audit PTTP, well done.
Great audit! Good to see a view of you when you moved infront of the camera, makes it much easier to see how interactions happen rather than from a handheld camera.
Greetings from Ireland. You are the Lionel Messie of the Drones destroying the appallingly illerate clowns that that try to bully you. Credit to the sergent with manners - unfortunately a rare species.
The whole "its an offence to distract a pilot" seams to be ignored. Next time they won't stop distracting you, you should crash the drone into the stations window and then hold them accountable for distracting you. It will be a fun court case
@@Renegade1127 True... also might be nice to have the relevant legislation printed out on a piece of paper just so when they first start of with the "excuse me what are you doing" you just hand then the paper and keep quiet. Then every time they speak to you again give them another copy.
How could it cost you your operator license taken away? I don't mean as soon as an officer speaks to him that he dive bombs the station 🤣 and I don't expect him to actually do it. But would be interesting how it is dealt with all the footage of them trying to distract him and other drone operators.
No, that would show that PTTP is easily distracted by bystanders whilst in control of a drone. That would be playing in to their hands. He's much smarter than that.
Thank you PTTP for your courage on the front lines and your content which I used to educate myself and I kown your time is valuable but I would love a RUclips short of follow-ups on what happens through the IOPC reports about the officers in your videos.
The most intelligent and polite auditor i have ever seen. Wish our auditors here in the states had the same manners and understanding. Top rate young man
@@jackblue4078 that may well be but LIA is just as versed in US law, and also keeps his head cool. Also he follows through like no other.. class act that guy.
@@delorusclaiborne3274 I couldn't agree more. Why should activists be "well mannered" when they're confronted with lies, bullying and intimidating behaviour? The great thing about PTTP is that he assertive and won't kowtow to idiot badged thugs.
Like a lot of these I am amazed that there is no other crime going on that the police need to attend to. Croydon is another area that I am thinking of moving to now, because the police have nothing better to do than hassle someone for doing something totally legal.
Well done PTTP! Manners where manners is due and firmness when necessary. Thanks mate for another entertaining interaction. Stay safe and enjoy the festive period. All the best 👍👌
Like many many other people I love watching your videos. I never get frustrated at what you maybe could have said, like I do with other auditors, especially when the police go tyrant! This was especially good because it recorded the WPC's facial reactions to your approach! Brilliant, well done you 😀
These cops are a danger to the public and everyone of them needs to be fired. Clueless, lawless bullies are not what we pay for - outrageous! The last sergeant was just what a police officer should be like - it is refreshing to witness a rose among all the thorns!
PTTP, you are the king. I search you out for balance and respite as I’ve threatened not to watch any more audits because it’s no good for my health! 🤬 These badged tyrants are out of control and I get angry with auditors being illegally detained etc and wish I could reach in and slap the cops around, especially the American ones! So thanks for your knowledge, bravery and determination on holding onto your human rights. Well done you!
Clear threat from the female officer on the public record
“ we’ll go down another route”
When there is no legal route to go down , both clearly but hurt because your not immediately following there unlawful orders
Yes it's that little phrase that gets me. In five words this would-be tyrant tells us everything we need to know about a systemic bullying culture that disregards the law if it suits them. Chilling.
I've noticed that WPC's feel they have to prove that they've got bigger balls than their male colleagues - I'm sure some have.
@@altheogre they are pre trans and identify as a women 🙂
Her ineffectual squeaky voice denotes that she is stressed out. That's when they get abusive. She just could not take no for an answer.
Did you see her face on camera when she turned about and looked at her pal??? Completely mind blow that someone's not bowing down to her uniform, absolutely brilliant!!
If Sergeant 137 could blatantly lie so quickly on camera you can just imagine what sort of tyrant he is off camera.
And then he lied about lying!!!
Think about it, how many innocent members of the public that insidious twot and his insidious colleagues have had arrested, jailed, fined with lives ruined because of their lies,, off camera.
....and in court
And this to a clued up adult - just think how he treats our children, elderly or other vulnerable groups. We do not need/want such ignorance on our streets and we certainly do not want to be paying for it.
I love the fact you told him NO, you wouldn’t be answering him or ‘holding on’ for him. He has absolutely no authority over you and you made that completely clear. Brilliant. 👍
Yes absolutely amazing... A sad moron with nothing better to do than film Police Stations.
@@delanodegenie6970 A sad moron who’s free to film police stations, unlike the truly ignorant, sad, pathetic ones who are not.
Dear he wants more Bearing :( "Conversation" turned to "License".
"Bad idea" needs a Auditor status?
Initially, I believed that auditing was solely about exploiting RUclips for financial gain and antagonizing law enforcement and other public entities. However, I've come to realize that my perception was flawed.
Auditing is fundamentally about safeguarding my human rights and confronting any individual or organization that violates them. Videos like this shed light on systemic issues and aim to hold authorities accountable.
These audits serve as a means to weed out corrupt and abusive elements within law enforcement, reinforcing the principles of integrity and professionalism within the police service.
Thank you, auditors, for your commitment to upholding justice and preserving the integrity of our society.
To me it is all of the above plus it respects and salutes the millions that sacrificed their lives yesterday so that we could live free today! The police not only trample their memory and their graves with their behaviour but then desecrate the flag they fought under.
Best Auditor ever! I wish he would come back!
3 vehicles illegally parked. Citizen carrying out a lawful activity awfully harassed! Says everything! Brilliant audit again 😊😊😊
Exactly!
@@powertotheproletariat yes and plenty of free spaces including a multi storey car park. Never mind harassment of a pilot which could also harm the public!
What's the betting they are parked illegally because the car park is full of personal vehicles. They want free parking and they abuse their public office to get it. That is the very definition of corruption.
Hence they are very worried about photographs of personal vehicles because that's the evidence for the corruption.
@@powertotheproletariat On the personal number plates.
1. Are you a police officer?
2. Is parking in Croydon expensive?
3. Is one of your cars in the compound and are you worired people will find out?
4. So these pollice cars are parked illegally here because your vehicles are in the compound
5. So you don't want your number plates filmed because its evidence of your corruption. Abuse of office for personal gain.
@@Nickle314 or its their vehicle is way beyond their salary and its because the other half is a drug lord 🤷♂️
"Why are flying this drone over the police station?" "Because that's where I want to go." I would have great difficulty in no falling over laughing at these remarks. You are the best auditor.
On the police radio they were talking about an assault on a six year old, but obviously a man with a camera is more of a problem.
Scandalous!
of course cuz real crime they dont care about
Honestly, I just absolutely love this. “We’ll go down another route.” Bullying tactics. I love how you don’t play in to their hands. Well done. 🎉
On the radio it says a mother and a 6 year old child !!!! Was assaulted....... yet they continued to harass the guy who was doing nothing wrong. They didn't even flinch to move to that disturbing call...... they make me sick
They'd soon have moved if the radio had announced that their was a mother and six year old child being stripped search in the station especially if it was a six year old girl or the doughnut wagon had arrived.
Protecting their registration plates, and themselves always overrides the needs of the public.
If they allow their skin to thicken, they’ll have to do real work.
@@paul8409 🤣🤣🤣🤣👏
Pig lives matter
Going on data recently released there is a decent chance that call on the radio is a copper slapping the family about!
Sergeant 137......exactly the type of police officer we do not need.
Him and thousands of other lying scumbag officers.
He was just playing up for the camera I think bud
@@jlovesmith3792No, he wasn’t a troll like you.
PTTP your Clearly the most interesting journalist anywhere, I’ve been promoting you all over. You have the highest respect.
BRILLIANT that you mention that the burden of proof is on them.
I haven't seen that from an auditor before 👏👏👏
Yep. Somebody knows their philosophy 101. The burden of proof is on the one who makes a positive claim.
@@Enfors
It's a touch more serious than philosophy.
"Article 6 of the Human Rights Act 1988 provides citizens in our country the right to a fair and public trial or hearing in relation to both criminal and civil matters. Section 2 of Article 6 states , “Everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law”.
@@AspenDarkfire Brilliant sentiment till you see these bullies at work their opinion is EVERYONE is guilty I just have to prove it (after I make it up) In the lower courts due to expedience for small charges its guilty unless you can prove innocent, and the "duty solicitor" is often there to facilitate that, he might throw you a bone (reduced charge or say that you have been no trouble in the past) to make it look like he is trying but, seeing is believing.
But it is changing in some courts a policeman's word, is NOT what it used to be (definitely not in a Juries eyes)
Apparetnly "proof" to a cop is nothing more that _"Because I said so" the answer a frustrated parent gives to a petulant child.
@@AspenDarkfire Soon to be gone
Exemplary mate! Great attitude, decorum, reasonable, articulate and knowledgeable. You are becoming one of the best (if not already). Fair play to the sergeant too, he was also exemplary. Two reasonable people having a reasonable conversation. What a breath of fresh air 🙂👍🏽
19.12. The female copper says in desperation of you ignoring her perceived authority, if you refuse their request to land it we can "go down a different route if that's what you prefer" You asked what route, she said " offences",. You asked what offence? she goes silent and her clueless male colleague says "I don't know if you've got a licence so I'll take the drone off you!!!! Just when you thought the depth of incompetence has been reached, they always manage to find a bigger shovel and just keep digging a bigger and bigger hole for themselves!!! Keep up the good work mate, and it was great to see you in the video.
You should have let him take it.
“Go on then take it off me.”
Hand him the control .
“Do you have a license officer?”
Now who is breaking the law?
I don't think he could even fly a kite
It figured
Yeah it's scary how they just try to find something to pin on someone because of their ego
They dig the hole so deep and so quickly that I believe that they use a JCB and not just a shovel.
It's amazing how long they "let" you fly your Drone. I laughed like hell! Their lack of control over you as a citizen alarms them and drives their Clown mind into Infinity. Very good job. Very professional.
Best Auditor out there by a mile. Your self-control and knowledge of the law really upsets those officers who behave in an unreasonable manner. Your conversation with the sergeant towards the end really summed it all up. Suspect he got wind of the stupid behaviour of the previous contacts and started shi....g himself so tried to avert big problems down the road. Great work PTTP!
PTTP is a master at this now, but Focus Pocus is on the same level. The rest are trailing in their wake.
I'd say that "DJ Audits" is just as good, in fact he's got more subscribers 👍
@@BillionDollarDon He’s great but he mainly does industrial estates not police stations
AB,PTTP,Focus Pocus,Reggie Photo are some top auditors
@@y0Fusionn Yeah, he's been hanging around "PJ Audits" for too long 🤣🤣🤣
Absolutely superb work Mr. Proletariat! Very many thanks for standing up for us, the 'little' people, and showing us our rights in the face of Police ignorance and tyranny.
Who would've though that the absolutely easiest way to put cops to shame is to simply film them and they handle the rest. It's beyond me how too many cops and all criminals live with them selves. It's almost worse being a bad cop than a criminal because a criminal rarely tries to suggest that they are doing things to protect society whereas a cop uses that excuse to threaten, violate and incriminate. Besides, if you're flying a drone that you have to have a license for it would be more reasonable to assume you have that license that to assume that you don't. This exposes how unreasonable, petty and childish ignorant cops are.
Well said .
You sum up PTTP's argument completely, they have to have reasonable grounds to suspect he does not have a license, not just assume he hasn't and that was exactly the point he made so eloquently.
Add to that they are ignorant of the law!
Its their ego. They expect people to bow down to whatever made up laws they can pull out of their fat arses.
_"It's almost worse being a bad cop than a criminal"_
A criminal will threaten, violate and assault you . . . and once they have your bike / phone / wallet they're gone.
A police officer will threaten, violate and assault you (regardless of your lack of guilt) . . . and the trouble has only just begun, after the initial attack you are probably looking at 18 months + of being dragged through the legal system, in and out of courts, all the while knowing you might lose everything, your job, your liberty, your family (not just your phone or wallet).
Great video. I feel honoured to be able to watch PTTP videos. Many thanks PTTP.
They genuinely believe they are some sort of protected species or something. They are exempt from being filmed, their building is exempt and unfortunately their brains are exempt from knowledge of their job.
PTTP you are literally one of my internet heroes. Youve got such a good way with your words, and how you structure your defence against malpractice/abuse of power. Well done!
Not the 1st time I'm writing this: you are one of the best English auditors: accent, language skills, approach, education, reasoning, behaviour.
Thanks for your work ;)
If in doubt send the women in to escalate the situation, lot of eye rolling 🙄
@@evoprod3344 don't watch them then, pig lover, simple like yourself
@@evoprod3344 no it's called modern technology, keep up or shut up
They are famous for it 😂
Don't know how many times I've watched videos like this and the women cops are often the worst protagonists and tyrants.
They give these people a costume and it goes to their head, thinking that the public must yield to their every demand even when you've not broken any law.
U could a call coming through on the radio about a 6 year old been assaulted while there all standing around watching a man do lawfull activity tax money well spent .
You are quickly becoming one of my favorite auditors. Well done!
Dito
Mine as Well 👍
What part of it's an offense to interrupt a Pilot flying that they don't understand? Last Sargent seemed a good guy, I hope we have more like him training the recruits. Another excellent audit.
JUICY!! 😂 bloody brilliant. Aww thanks for the shout out 😊 means a lot! Always dominating them and making them look sooo silly. Lewisham next? 😂 il work for you and each week il tell you where your meant to go 😂 loved the last sergeant and his approach, very respectful and polite. More police need to behave like this, it’s not ok to constantly think everyone is guilty until proven innocent. I don’t know what’s happened throughout the years but it seems they’ve forgotten that’s it’s innocent till proven guilty. Happy you went to Croydon :) Lewisham and Charing Cross next 😜
Glad you enjoyed it! haha I probably won't do London again until the new year now, got plans for somewhere else next week and that should see me through the festive period hopefully :) But I'll get around to Lewisham and Charing Cross (again) they are the gifts that keep on giving :D
The last sergeant was a top fella, definitely a much better approach! And I agree, they have forgotten that we're innocent until proven guilty. We're all treated like criminals these days
@@powertotheproletariatexactly 🎉 they are the gifts that keep on giving 😂 you have my email now so let us know when you back around my ends :) thanks again for auditing Croydon:)
Have you done any audits on the wirral, Merseyside?
I see P.C. liar in the red coat sneaked off rather sharpishly !
Simp
Wow, Wayne Couzens, David Carrick, and we have a winner the next dirty cop, Sgt 137 of Croydon
Very quick bite there. As always bloody brilliant. The fact you are so knowledgeable and articulate really puts them in their place. Credit to the good and nice Sergeant.
Definitely credit to the last sergeant ✊ as for the others... They have a long way to go
@@powertotheproletariat The second sergeant was not as 'nice' as you think..... he was still trying to make excuses for the other tyrant constables/sergeant and he still tried for your details at the end there ! He just knew that he had to behave himself , that's all . ..... I would have asked that stupid female if she had learning difficulties ( when she kept on at you , having been told NOT to interfere with a pilot ! ).... And these are supposed to be professionals are they ??
At 17.30 - if he can't see the drone enough to see the licence, he can't see the drone enough to tell whether its marketed as a toy either, so he doesn't know if it even needs a licence.
Police never learn that 'presumption of guilt masquerading as objective reason is what furnishes auditors with a living', yet it never gets old...
"You're not allowed to....protected premises". Poor sods. They've only got a bloody great wall and gate there! You handled this so well and I'm pleased that the sergeant at the end was on hand. Asking if you were an auditor came out again. To me, that's becoming discriminatory against auditors and , in their minds, provides the reason for the poor attitude they give you. I also wonder if the bloody illegal parking outside the stations will ever be stopped!
Can't see that happening any time soon.
No, they are the most lawless profession in the country.
@@gregkasza1925 - Not while politicians and lawyers exist!
@@topcat1358 good point.
Police and criminals will never stop their illegal activities.
Every time i watch one of the PTTP videos my first thought is omg this man has balls of steel!
Seems all the Met just love obstucting traffic and being paranoid about Drones . Crazy stuff. thanks for another great Vid Pttp
No worries Nigel, thanks for watching ✊
You need to do a Drone Audit in Ukraine . That could get a lot of views 🤣🤣👌
So much respect for your knowledge and the way that you conduct yourself in the pursuit in promoting better policing.
When they are so rude and aren't in uniform you should insist on a warrant card. The police staff ID is not sufficient, that's the Wayne Couzens problem all over again.
Just so good. You are so assertive and articulate, this has to be the gold standard of audits. Thank you.
Police: "FIlming private number plates is a massive terrorist security national emergency threat"
Also police: "Let me just jump out of my private vehicle to accost an innocent member of the public"
While blocking the roadway and causing a jam outside a supposed emergency area...
Not withstand the fact that all number plates are visible to the public, otherwise how can the public inform the police of them in an accident...
Excellent public audit from start to finish. Like the beard and first time we have seen you clearly Sir. Happy Christmas to you , your family, all subscribers and anyone dropping in.
The sergant sent his girlfriend out to instigate the situation.
Only this week she is :)
While wife at home washing his 🧦 😂
The police officers you deal with must have to go inside and scream into a pillow after dealing with you - absolutely masterful.
The ease with which the 1st Sgt lied,when he didn’t realise he was being recorded is quite scary.
Totally agree! Was disgusted by that sergeant. Definitely a complaint for him
They lie under oath
Srgt 137 definitely in the wrong job.
Scary but fully expected
And then he lied about lying!!!
20:24 & 20:30 the look of disdain on the WPC’s face because you won’t jump to their every whim.
Well done PTTP for the way you stood up to them and stood up for your rights. The last uniformed sergeant was decent and appeared to take your valid points on board.
The sergeant @6':58" says PTTP is making up the idea that he claimed the police station was a 'protected' area, here's the actual exchange @3':45", the sergeant has either got short term memory issues or is simply lying about what he said.
Officer: "You won't be flying that over the police station"
PTTP: "Why not?"
Officer: "You're not allowed to"
PTTP: "Says who ?"
Officer: "It's protected premises"
They have absolutely no problem with going to peoples homes, interrogating people in their cars, BUT when THEIR place of work is disturbed, they just cant handle it!!
Not only that, look how many Cops are there doing nuffin', and no REAL crimes being investigated!
Well done, I love your videos. Greetings from Australia.
Once again we see multiple examples of arrogance, lying, incompetence and ignorance. Not just at the PC level which could be blamed on their training but also at Sgt level who it is fair to assume should have greater experience and knowledge.
Exceptionally well handled once again, your ability to differentiate and change your approach so quickly after having been riled is highly commendable.
It would seem that those Police Officers who don’t personally like something are prepared to try and bully and even lie to satisfy their feelings.
…and the owner of these Failed Genetic Experiments wants us all to respect them! The owner being the chief constable (yawn).
Arrogance, lying, incompetence and ignorance? Those are the requirements to be employed as a police officer. They won't accept you without them.
I have never seen a police officer behave in any other way.
Of course the frauditors are little angels 😇
@@romich4536 They are not the ones breaking the Law and peoples Human Rights are they !
@@jimosullivan1389 Frauditors are doing it for money so that makes them parasites.
Absolutely disgusted that not only did they breach data of a mother and 6yr old being assaulted, but to also keep the volume on their radios up loud when the CAD number was said. Thank god for the last Sargent who patiently waited until you landed the drone before asking you anything. He also told the 'tyrant "that's public order offence" constable to go as he was handling the situation. Once again, what a fantastic audit PTTP, stay safe out there 👍🏻
Hat off to you Sir....one of the best auditors out there 👍
I bloody love this auditor. He's in total control
Big props to you PTTP, great to see your channel grow since you started and love to see you getting recognition for your work 👍👍👍
This is, without a doubt, one of my personal favourites.
"Arrest me and caution me otherwise it is an offence to distract a drone pilot."
Much can be learned from this skilled Master of the art of verbal judo.
If you are ever the subject of an assault, a break in or any other serious crime…… just call the police and say there is a man with a camera here. They will assign all units asap. 🤦♂️
If you stand outside a police station flying a drone over it you're going to get spoken to because there are police in the building. Just as if you stood outside a mcdonalds and flew a drone over it you'd get spoken to by a mcdonalds worker because mcdonalds employees work there.
@@Fartman3000 And he told them what he was doing.
No reason for them to escalate.
Pulling made up laws outof their arses.
@@Fartman3000 If it's a lawful activity, which it is, then there is no reason to speak to him in the first place! How about go away until an actual crime is being committed! It seems like the Police spend more time policing what they feel rather than actual crime. There is a reason you are not to police on hunches these days, because the police on a hunch generation arrested and harrassed innocent people ON A HUNCH!
Go back to bed, dinosaur
Hearing the calls for help over the police radio that's very true, but we know "their feelings were hurt" so that's priority
@@Fartman3000 Funny ain't it theirs always 🐖 s in 🐖 stations when someone is legally filming but they NEVER have anyone to attend when a member of the public reports a crime. Corporations they respond within minutes the only times other than when an auditor is filming the station
they move that quick is when theirs a vunerable child they can strip search and molest or the doughnut wagon arrives. The 🐖 s appear to have six priorities these days in order they are Protecting ignoring Grooming Gangs,Strip Searching/Molesting children,Protecting/ignoring Corrupt colleagues,harassing auditors or people legally filming them, harassing, arresting Christian street preachers and increasing the deaths of those in 🐖 custody at every opportunity.
FINALLY. an auditor that DOESN'T land the drone when police say so. THANK YOU.
Only if it's a lawful order, then I'll question the basis of their lawful order (as I did with the previous video at chadwell heath!)
IT'S CRAZY THAT A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY THAN THE POLICE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE UPHOLDING THE LAW.
(ALWAYS RECORD THE COPS AT ALL TIMES, IT COULD SAVE YOUR LIFE OR SOMEONE ELSE'S LIFE PEOPLE)
Keep up the great work @PTTP and stay safe people, peace.
🥊 🥊 🥊 👍 👍 👍
He lied
It's on camera
Now you know why he's here, officer 🤣
Why is it so many WPC's are pure Karen
50 k subscribers soon mate , you work is amazing 😢,you the next big thing lol
You’re starting to become one of my
Favourite auditors! Fair play pal, u know
The law, u stand up for yourself and if they treat you bad u go in on them! Well done.
my favourite part of these videos are when they charge at you with their inflated egos and they immediately get deflated when you know rights and they look like scared children
Thank you once again....i am learning my rights every time i watch you.......keep up the good work...
Yes you learn from someone who does nothing except annoy people who are trying to do their job
I just love how you dealt with those tyrants, Well done. That last SGT definitely has his work cut out working with them. He knows what’s going on.
Two sergeants stated it was a "protected site".
I am concerned about you flying a drone over the police station up goes the drone brilliant.😂🤣😂 You and focus pocus are the 2 best auditors in the UK by far.
Agree
Totally agree they are both polite knowledgeable and articulate. This leaves no scope for being done on public order or anything and runs rings around your average copper. I used to like AB, but over the last year or so he's started making personal insults towards the person he's interacting with, regards their appearance or their weight Etc, totally unnecessary, and he has lost all credibility with me. It's cringing to watch him sometimes, the things he comes out with
AB is the goat
Brilliant when FP does that 🤣
F.P. the 🐐
I love the way you handle the police - good job
I am so disheartened by the attitude of middle ranking police officers. It makes you wonder what was happening before smart phones with videoing capability became common.
The ease at which these people can lie and twist words is jaw dropping...reminds me of 6 year olds caught out.
Carry on the good work and I admire your push back when confronted by ego driven individuals.
I used to live near a police house. The Police Sergeant living there used to nip over his back fence and nick produce from the allotments there.
What happened? Same stuff which happens today, they know they're not accountable to their actions.
Wait till you realise how many people go missing at the hands of police officers. There are bad people in the world and some of them wear a uniform.
Only bad cops/government employees fear transparency.
Not just middle ranking they are aĺ clueless
Well said
What a concern that sergeant 137 blatantly lied and insisted he never said that it was a protected area, and that PTTP was “making it up.” How many times has this dishonest sergeant had someone arrested and convicted for an offence that they never committed based on his false evidence☹.
Exactly. Soon after this was pointed, he decided to leave . He would have taken it further I'm sure if he hadn,'t been filmed
He actually said its fair enough to speak to someone flying a drone , even he said over a protected site , these cops need to learn the law, the sergeant was copsplaining
He was not even a real Sgt! The real one was even worse :)
Didn't even need to make these look like mugs, they did that all by themselves. Absolutely brilliant you're one of the best out there 👏
You I now this you handled that lot so well also the final police officer was absolutely spot on . Well done pttp and the last police officer . Hats off to both .
The police bosses need to deal with these disgusting public servants , the MET have some serious problems with the type of people they hire.
I honestly have not seen a truly in corrupt pc no matter how bad or nice they can’t help themselves from breaking the law they are addicted to this process too the point they don’t even understand what it is there doing wrong !!!deep loathing of the public syndrome
Hands in pockets in the face of all this danger
That's a lovely video - illustrates perfectly the right and the wrong way for police to approach the public.. Well done mate... Pretty much the perfect audit video and illustrates perfectly why auditors do what they do and why they NEED to do what they do.
Pignorance is international 😂
Sarge at the end was fab, and a great role model for way it needs to be done. But boy, he must have a busy day. It's obvious Sergeant Bellend (did I say that correctly) from the start needs spoon feeding at meal times. In Bellends defence though, for Croydon he's gifted.
I think there were about a dozen officers involved in total, and I hope they're reading this: do they think that their actions portray them well. Bellend denting his actions, all of them checking their phones for the law, giving unlawful orders and making up 'rules' and congesting their own yard and the highway, all for a bloke with a drone? I'll give them a hint, they looked like a joke.
Well done for standing your ground. Think you'd make a great lawyer btw, you'd get paid for debating with people
Very good points!
I'm too deep into my psychology career to retrain and lawyers get paid shit for the amount of training and knowledge it takes
@@powertotheproletariat I thought you'd say that. Don't blame you at all either. Still I think you'd be awesome.
@@powertotheproletariat not if you’re a corporate lawyer! 😜
Well said, hear all the calls for assistance in the radio, but still let's abuse this guy because our feelings are hurt
The blond female cop doesn’t like the word No you can tell by her face that would turn milk sour lol 😂😂😂😂
If disturbing a pilot is an offense, you should press this issue harder. It's the _only_ offense in the whole situation, and they ignore it blatantly to worry about "might be" and "could be."
They’re making a lot of assumptions for people with absolutely zero evidence to back up any of their assertions.
What a brilliant audit . "The Presumption of Innocence" , described by the Court of Appeal as being 'the golden thread' running through the web of English criminal law whereby the accused bears no burden of proof. In this audit the police officers clearly feel that you must prove to them your innocence by showing them your license. This is a very significant feature of UK law and practically re-establishing this concept with face to face interactions between Police and Auditors should perhaps become the focus of more Audits. The legal and justified refusal to respond to a "Stop and Account" , which you do in a first class way, serves as a masterclass for other auditors who often 'rise to the bait'. I don't know what the police are taught nowadays but they seem to feel that the public 'must' answer them and that a failure to answer a 'stop and account' somehow provides them with 'grounds for reasonable suspicion'. It does not. This is a concept that needs to be exposed and eliminated. Great content. I touch my forelock to that final Sergeant for his professional and polite approach. Thank you for this audit PTTP, well done.
Great audit! Good to see a view of you when you moved infront of the camera, makes it much easier to see how interactions happen rather than from a handheld camera.
It’s obvious cops get perplexed when people don’t bow down to them. It takes a special kind of person to be a cop.
Spent 18 weeks on Police course and she spent 17 weeks doing her makeup
Can't polish a 💩 though ...can ya !!
Greetings from Ireland. You are the Lionel Messie of the Drones destroying the appallingly illerate clowns that that try to bully you. Credit to the sergent with manners - unfortunately a rare species.
The whole "its an offence to distract a pilot" seams to be ignored. Next time they won't stop distracting you, you should crash the drone into the stations window and then hold them accountable for distracting you. It will be a fun court case
I would'nt crash the drone - could cost you your operator's ID.
Nothing stopping you from passing the video on to the CAA though ........
@@Renegade1127 True... also might be nice to have the relevant legislation printed out on a piece of paper just so when they first start of with the "excuse me what are you doing" you just hand then the paper and keep quiet. Then every time they speak to you again give them another copy.
How could it cost you your operator license taken away? I don't mean as soon as an officer speaks to him that he dive bombs the station 🤣 and I don't expect him to actually do it. But would be interesting how it is dealt with all the footage of them trying to distract him and other drone operators.
@@mal6232 iv suggested this on many auditors channels
No, that would show that PTTP is easily distracted by bystanders whilst in control of a drone. That would be playing in to their hands. He's much smarter than that.
Thank you PTTP for your courage on the front lines and your content which I used to educate myself and I kown your time is valuable but I would love a RUclips short of follow-ups on what happens through the IOPC reports about the officers in your videos.
The most intelligent and polite auditor i have ever seen. Wish our auditors here in the states had the same manners and understanding. Top rate young man
Long Island Audits..
@@michielotsen6317 yes you're right, maybe its the British accent and the interactions between British police that it comes across so civilised
@@jackblue4078 that may well be but LIA is just as versed in US law, and also keeps his head cool. Also he follows through like no other.. class act that guy.
I think even the rude ones are needed... Rude or polite the more the merrier 👍
@@delorusclaiborne3274 I couldn't agree more. Why should activists be "well mannered" when they're confronted with lies, bullying and intimidating behaviour? The great thing about PTTP is that he assertive and won't kowtow to idiot badged thugs.
Like a lot of these I am amazed that there is no other crime going on that the police need to attend to. Croydon is another area that I am thinking of moving to now, because the police have nothing better to do than hassle someone for doing something totally legal.
Well done PTTP! Manners where manners is due and firmness when necessary. Thanks mate for another entertaining interaction. Stay safe and enjoy the festive period. All the best 👍👌
PTTP, I was surprised to see your face this time. As Usual Fantastic Documentary, thank you
Our reasonable suspicion that you don't have a licence, is that our feelings are being hurt by flying over our police station.
Anyone who stands up for themselves when cops like this act like this is ok in my book. Total tyrants in this clip
Like many many other people I love watching your videos. I never get frustrated at what you maybe could have said, like I do with other auditors, especially when the police go tyrant! This was especially good because it recorded the WPC's facial reactions to your approach! Brilliant, well done you 😀
"it's an offense to distract a pilot"
NO ITS NOT!!
Never wrong are they!
*DISGUSTING* that they're more worried about their pathetic childish egos more than a mother & 6 year old child being assaulted!! *SHOCKING!*
999.....Officer 'We can go down a completely different route with this' Answer 'Are you conspiring to pervert justice officer?'..... 999
Always nice to put a face to the voice. Made this one more human. Well done as usual.
These cops are a danger to the public and everyone of them needs to be fired. Clueless, lawless bullies are not what we pay for - outrageous! The last sergeant was just what a police officer should be like - it is refreshing to witness a rose among all the thorns!
PTTP, you are the king. I search you out for balance and respite as I’ve threatened not to watch any more audits because it’s no good for my health! 🤬 These badged tyrants are out of control and I get angry with auditors being illegally detained etc and wish I could reach in and slap the cops around, especially the American ones! So thanks for your knowledge, bravery and determination on holding onto your human rights. Well done you!
Really enjoyed this, keep up the good work, showing the police they are not demi God's.
Police bullying as always 😠