I bought the Cordoba Stage
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- This is the new Cordoba Stage. I feel like this guitar was made for me.
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Thank you for adding unplugged. This is the most important metric when buying a cross over guitar.
Hello, guitar maker here. While nylon guitars traditionally don't need truss rods, some makers may add them for longevity, as even nylon guitars suffer from neck bowing over a long period of time.
Since a lot of the setup happens by putting a twist in the fingerboard, if a neck bow happens without a truss rod long into the lifespan of the guitar, it could lead to the guitar needing a neck reset, using a heated metal beam. This process could take weeks if the neck woods are particularly dense and it's not an easy or cheap repair.
This is probably the best review of this guitar I have seen. Thank you for a great review!
Glad you liked it!
@@alexrockwellmusic enjoyed the review. Thanks 👍
Noob question here because I'm relatively new to playing guitar and have only played electric. Is the spacing between the strings like a lot more than say on an electric guitar like Ibanez? Asking because I'd like to know how difficult it would be for beginners/ intermediates to get used to the difference and switching back and forth.
Lastly, the action and string tension of metal string acoustics were always an issue for me on the one's I did briefly try. Can the action be set really low on this one? And do nylon strings help with comfort/ playability?
Dude! I watch a ridiculous number of videos of every instrument I’m interested in. Excellent job! Very well spoken with no fluff. The big question no one before you answered was “how does it sound unplugged.” I like to sit in my lazy boy and play quietly after the family has gone to bed. I had a solid body classical that you could barely hear at all without headphones and a headphone amp. This is at least getting an in person audition for my collection. Thank you.
Thanks! I honestly don't think it sounds amazing unplugged, but that's not really what it's meant for anyway. Regardless, I think it sounds good enough for quiet practicing. Nothing about it beats a proper classical, of course.
@@alexrockwellmusicbut plugged in, does it beat a classical guitar?
@@alexrockwellmusic Alex, please tell me, is it possible to practice on it at night if play quietly? Or is it better to buy Yamaha Silent?
played one last week and was surprised at how loud it is acoustically
you play 'Arirang' so gracefully. Thank you!
Thanks! That's from my own arrangement
Waited ages but I collected a Cordoba Stage from the shop a few days ago. Early days in terms of playing, but it looks fabulous and as far as I can tell it's well put together.
I find this instrument to be far more interesting than the Polyphia one tbh. This one has depth and control over your tone while Tim's new one seems to always sound like it's being played through cardboard regardless of the amp.
Yeah, the body blend is what really makes this guitar not sound like a duck. Also, I like the look of it a lot more.
Yeah Tim's honestly sounds awful :/
Its funny you put exactly the same comment on the tim henson one review 😂 and that comment brought me to this video
Yeah I think its a juicier sound than the alternatives
Polyphia is AWFUL
For sure a trussrod makes a lot of sense also on a nylon stringed guitar !
I wish my other nylons had one.
This way one can finetune and adjust the action to ones personal taste independent of the string gauge just like with an electric guitar.
If I am not mistaken, the truss rod will make this guitar easier to manage traveling with, as the temperature and humidity changes can still cause issues even though the nylon strings don't exert a lot of force on the neck.
You're not mistaken. Adding truss rods to classical necks, while typically not necessary, doesn't hurt.
Never could get used to the tone of this guitar. Returned it to Sweetwater and bought the Cordoba fusion orchestra instead . Awesome guitar 🎸
Those have a nice tone
How do you like the fusion orchestra? My next guitar is going to be a fusion nylon but I can’t decide on which.
Best review of this guitar on youtube! the unplugged was super helpful too. great job!
It'll be a great added and creative tool for you, with its cool range of tones - and for various applications. May it bring a ton of musical inspiration and creation!
I agree!
I watched this video last week and ordered one immediately. It is awesome. Thank you for putting this together and sharing, Alex.
Awesome! I think I deserve a commission...
How do you like it now ?
Thank you so much for the review! I just bought the blue burst limited. Guitar Center locally does not have any and showed no interest in having them. So with that said I ordered online. You helped me make that decision. My hats off to you for your generosity.
i’m buying one, thanks for the insights and helping me decide on a nylon string to get without waiting for the tim henson signature!
Thank you for the pedal part. I always wondered what a classical guitar thru a Hendrix rig would sound like if possible. Always thought it’d be cool to combine nuance of nylon string w/ the textures of classic loud electric guitar, working the feedback and sustain and everything. The right person could really make it shine, I think
I have this model and i love it. Nice work Cordoba.
Thanks for that little unplugged moment- I looked at a dozen videos as I’m thinking about buying one and your the first who did an unplugged test. Cheers
This sounds great unplugged!
This guitar sounds a lot like the one Chet Atkins used when recording the song Vincent. This was very fun to watch. Looking forward to owning this guitar in the near future.
Gibson, Yamaha, Ibanez, Cort, ESP, Stagg, Lopez, Ortega, even Harley Benton have all produced solid body nylon guitars.
I had being searching for live tone of this guitar with unplugged. Great review and it was very helpful. Thanks.
And arirang! It was good too.
Chorus just sound really good
I upgraded to the fusion model 48mm neck! boom! love it even more now on my back knee or standing/jamming...
Just got a GK studio negra a month ago. Love it. Great quality.
Chet Adkins was the first dude to play ‘em. He had the builds commissioned cause he was old and they were comfortable to play live for his tv show. Dude had a sense of humor
atkins
Dude, I just ran into this guitar last Saturday. I play on a Esteves Spanish guitar and was looking for a lighter nylon guitar with a smaller acoustic box knowing that I need to get into this type. I was blown away by the looks and the sound. I confess I have a very primitive knowledge on amplifying and electric guitar sounds and tricks and even less skills but do enjoy trying to learn how to play guitar. You impressed with your skills.
Kiesel/Carvin has for years. The NS1 is nylon with a standard Jack for amp and a 13 pin Jack you can run midi through a guitar synth.
Still relevant review! I’m expecting more and more from my new purchase.
I was on the fence about this guitar. After watching your video...I just got back from Guitar Center with a blue one! Thank you.
Nice! I hope it serves you well!
I want one for fingerstyle, such a cool instrument
I want this guitar so bad. And that Syntax Error pedal gave such Amnesiac or Kid A vibes, it's awesome!
Man, it sucks not being able to afford new gear, haha.
Now, I wonder what this would sound like fretless. I want to experiment with fretless guitars and I don't know if traditional electrics would work well. It'd be a shame to ruin one of these to attempt it, though, since the neck seems to be set (and thus buying a neck would be impossible). Seeing the price I ABSOLUTELY will pick one up as soon as I'm able to!
I have been intrigued by this guitar. Just happened to come across your video, which is really great. I'm buying one! Thanks for all the info!
Really informative demo...thank you!
The more I play mine the more I love it . I did a good investment/ purchase for this and pair it with the lr Baggs venue direct box unit and a perfect combination and sound I am using a harbinger 8 inch powered speaker and with the direct box is perfect sound 🔊
This guitar might be a great candidate for some nylon classical guitar IRs (impulse response). Possibly turn a passable nylon sound into a great one that way?
It compares well to godins electric nylons. Cordoba and godin are the only two companies that have done it right so far. I love the sound of the stage with chorus , delay and reverb.
This is gonna be kind of a hot take, but I really liked how that thing sounded with the distortion. I think it sounded really cool.
This thing with some light chorus would make some great sounding bossa nova
For sure. It sounds great with chorus.
Thanks for the specs and sweet playing.
I just picked one of these up over the TOD10N because of your video ^_^ 💚
Hope you're happy with that decision!
@@alexrockwellmusic It just showed up today! I'm going to follow the instructions on the box and wait until tomorrow to open it, but I'm so excited to play it! ^_^ Thanks for such a real demo of it!
nylon guitar necks will inevitably curve due to tension. its just a matter of how long it takes. a truss rod can only help with any guitar. think of how river water erodes stones, enough time will cause a bow and ive seen it numerous times
Finally, a demo with the unplugged sound. Thank you for a comprehensive review.
I dismissed the TH Ibanez because of the lack of body mics.
PS: I received my Cordoba from Sweetwater yesterday. I love it. Had you not edited in the acoustic sound, I may have gotten the Henson signature, which sounds "plinky" to me.
Your review is spot on.
Subbed.
The Fishman sounding great is no surprise. My electric-acoustics all sound amazing through my Loudbox Mini Charge.
Excellent review, thank you for your honesty. Will be purchasing one soon.
Hope you enjoy it!
Thanks for the great review. I own a Cort Sunset Nylon that is very similar to this Cordoba, but it's on the market several years ago. The Cort has a simple piezo, without the body transducer and the sound is more dry and quaky. Of course, it's cheaper. I'm about to buy the Cordoba.
Thank you for this exhaustif explanation
Cordoba is the NEW standard for Acoustic classical Guitars like Fender and Gibson for solid body steal string Electrics.
Definitely, if you're looking for something mass produced. Their guitars all sound like they're worth twice what they retail for too.
I just ordered the Tim Henson Sig yesterday, Been looking for an Acoustic-Electric lately. I first learned on a classical nylon guitar, plus with the hype I was sold immediately. Then I found this one today & now im considering cancelling and getting this one instead lol. I love the warmth & fullness of this one. I worry Tim's may not quite stand up to it in that sense. Everything Tim & Scott have played on them sounds amazing, but then again it's Tim & Scott. Playing God & Tim's RUclips videos with it aren't really focused on the "Proper" classical music/tone. I feel like its more sharp than it is warm. That might be enough to turn me off of it. It would be nice to get a proper review with more classical playing first, but then I worry not being able to get it at the street price after the pre-order ends before regular people start posting reviews.
Yeah the intricate hybrid picking technique those guys use really brings out the piezo quackiness. I'm sure they'll sound just fine with traditional classical technique. The body blend on the Cordoba is what really sold me. It doesn't sound like a real classical, but it doesn't lack for a full, rich, balanced tone. I'd say if you're thinking about canceling and switching, at least see if you can try one in a store first to see if you like it.
I relate so much to this, well said
I pre-ordered the Tim Henson a week ago myself. I almost bought this Cordoba a few months back, but I waited for the TH mainly because I think the TH looks cool with the black and fret inlay.
Mine should be here in two weeks! So stoked. Great review man
Hope you love it!
i will get one super soon. maybe a month. need this for recording FOR REAL. amazing playing and thank you for sharing.
Cool beans.
I took up building stringed instruments in my retirement and definitely a nylon electric is on my 'next' list.
just ordered one, can't freaking wait!
I saw one of these at a local shop, and am going back to try out today... THANK YOU ALEX, for a wonderful video review, agree one of the best, and now I have an online source to be able to refer students to you in the future.
Re' the beginnings of this type of design, Chet Atkins had one model/per Gibson, which at the time felt to use just a few words "too thick," and an amazing Luthier in Phoenix, named Ron Carrriveau, who developed steel and classical models of what he called the "Eloustic" models. I bought a beautiful steel string that I used on my first guitar album "The Year of the Tiger.".. (Kenn Harris) released on cassette (remember those) in 1986 now remastered from Tape( cut and past was literally cut/splice/paste !!! >Dat>CD 2009>2023 Remastering... now on youtube music, and soon Apple & Spotify etc.in case anyone wants to hear this instrument in action.
I had asked Ron to customize the neck thinner and and to make the body more ergonomic. The guitar has 2 humbuckers and an acoustic piezo, and a custom electronic active system specifically designed to service the design, with a selector switch for different combination of pickups, and only a volume nob for each, and one for master volume tone was achieved by dialing in the natural tone of each pickup... the design included a chambered body and bracing to achieve acoustic tones. It was simply brilliant. I call this guitar "the Grey." Although the guitar pre customization that I bought was reviewed Guitar Player, April 2005, it was from a small shop that unfortunately, was not able to achieve commercial scale/success. Ron went back to full time teaching. He should be noted in the history of guitar making as an innovative and great luthier, wonderful human being, and brilliant innovator. Eventually Godin and Taylor with T5, Fender etc... developed their instruments in this evolution.
Now Cordova has what seems like a wonderful instrument.
Ron Carriveau's bio on line states he "started making guitars full time in 1968 at the Village Luthier, 1922 E. Hedrick St.,Tucson, Arizona . Carriveau also operated as Precision Guitar Works. Carriveau introduced the Eloustic models in the 1980s, these were versatile guitars with both magnetic and piezo pickups mounted on thin lightweight hollow bodies with no sound-hole and a unique transducing brace and bridge system."
Thank You Ron
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Thank You Alex
Kenn Harris
Very informative, first review I've seen w/pedals.
Probably because running it through pedals is kinda dumb, but I'm down for it
That's awesome! Thanks brother! I got one today, and found this video. I'm stoked to get it!
Way back in the day the Gibson SST, CE & CEC. Godin and Carvin had thinbody acoustics as well. Niche market that comes and goes.
We've seen the future!! I thought the same thing, "We need a guitar just like this." ESP also made one years back, but it was only available in Japan.
I had a c5, beautiful tone! Didn't like the scale length so sold it to a friend. He's actually got talent, so a good use of the universe's resources!
I ordered mine last night and cannot wait!!
I LOVE my Cordoba C10. Went thru a bunch before I settled on it. Thinking I might give this a try
Dude, how on earth do you only have 2K subs? that is criminal! subbed! great video and now I need one of these...
Spread the word!
That TIm Henson is on the market. I also feel like the Gibson Chet Atkins may have been the first of the thinline nylons. Maybe.
Great review Alex. Didn't know about this guitar. I have always liked Cordoba guitars and have one of their GK Studio models. I gig mostly with nylon string guitars playing different fingerstyle arrangements (Earl Klugh style and others). My main guitar is a Takamine TC135, a "crossover" nylon. This Stage model reminds me of the old Gibson Chet Atkins CE model. Will definitely check one of these out and maybe buy. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it.
Ibanez just brought out another. But I like the look and sound of this Cordoba. I found this video very useful!
Antonio Hermosa AH-50. No longer available. Used it as a bass with Savarez Low Octave strings. It had 45 seconds sustain on the low end.
Wow, never seen one of those. It looks like the construction is pretty similar to the Cordoba. Good sound?
Iv had a angel Lopez ec3000 solid body nylon string electo acoustic for about 6 years. very very nice and ALOT cheaper than the big brands ... shout out to thomman .. bought my last 6 guitars from them ... highly recommend
i want this guitar.
i guess i'll build one. it's been on my mind and this is the first review of one that i have seen. i knew it was a good idea!
got the planning wheels cranking now.
My plan too! Started the project years ago, might be time to pick it back up
Half of my solo gig is nylon. The Yamaha Silent Nylon is a great guitar. But you mentioned the Fishman amp. I can tell you that the Fishman SA330 cannot be touched , for sound, price, durability and back up by the factory. Thanks for your great demo.
Wonderful demo. Highly informative. I have heard some criticism about the intonation. Any opinion on that? Thanks!
The intonation is solid in my opinion. On mine, the 1st and 6th strings are just a hair sharp at the 12th fret, which I suspect is due to a combination of the fretboard radius and the arc of the saddle. The outside strings are displaced a little bit more than the inside strings when pressing down. Maybe the saddle could be reshaped a little to correct it, but it's certainly not even close to being unplayable.
I have been interested in the Godin for years, pretty pricey because of the midi electronics. I saw a professional player using the godin to get every sound from acoustic to metal…the guy was even playing piano sounds using the godin. Anyway looks pretty awesome I may buy one.
Sounds like it has great potential.. For some reason the body looks like a ukulele to me.. I wish they would have made it a 1/4 to 1/2” wider.. I think I’m gonna make the purchase.
The dirty pedals almost give a Jack White vibe. Pretty cool. I think the feedback on the distortion was the multiple mic pickups. I would turn those down/off when using distortion.
I have a cordoba ukelele that I am impressed with. the sound is great and the price was good.
They make good stuff!
@@alexrockwellmusic everyone seems surprised at sound quality of these guitars.
Sooo... I went to check out this guitar, and as mentioned this is a beautiful instrument, finish, fretboard, tuning machines, and tone were amazing even without amp... and the electronics were wonderful... and as mentioned in the video, very responsive to tone sculpting, but there were a few issues mentionable, on the one model in the store that were problematic regarding the set up from the factory. I see, hear and feel this in about 90+% of box store guitars... it is very rare to find a "perfectly" set up instrument, but several issues were notable.
The action was set way to high at the nut, and the neck for the bass strings had more relief than needed, and was out of proportion to the treble strings side. The strings were very noise re' any slides. All of theses issues could likely be addressed with a simple set up and string change. The thing that really bothered me was that the guitar's intonation at the 12th fret... harmonic vs. fretted note was off for most of the strings, and worse on some. Although the specs from Cordova say "compensated bone" saddle, I could see no evidence of attention to compensation other than the angle of the saddle. This would require a new saddle to be made, once the set up was completed, and might require resetting a wider saddle into the bridge.
With only one instrument to try... I can't say this is a global issue for the model, but wanted to share these observations, For the relatively low cost of the instrument, putting a set up, better strings, and custom saddle would likely be worth it but should in my view be considered when evaluating the guitar. If these issues were not present, it would have been, as Alex said, hard to stop playing in the store, and hard not to take home. Again, Alex great video review... thanks, Kenn
String noise is really only mitigatable through refinement of technique when it comes to nylon strings. Your technique needs to be even more refined when those squeaks are being amplified by the piezo. But the saddle and nut are things that can be addressed at fairly low cost, fortunately.
I found it as good as the Godin but less expensive I just ordered it and can't wait for it to arrive and jam
I want this guitar for playing flamenco and Latin jazz and Spanish music and I find it perfect for that. And after what I saw sir you played a mean guitar. I love to play guitar and jam I have a bugera ac-60 acoustic amp and can't wait to play the guitar when I get one to gig with.
It will be an excellent gig guitar for sure. I think it would be excellent for flamenco and Latin jazz too, with the way it's all built. Go check one out!
Latin jazz yes, but flamenco no. Unless what you mean is doing phrygian scales to a backing track then it would work
Was that you playing Vamonos pa' Monte on the guitar? Thats awesome. I learned the montuno for that on the guitar and often fantasized about playing that tune with a band at a bar and here I saw someone actually doing it...
@@Materva-hv6sz yes that was and was my band tropical breeze
@@MrRubenrivera9649 You guys sound fantastic. I love the sound of salsa/afro-cuban jazz on the guitar. Its gives it a fresh feeling thats different from the piano-brass combination
Oh, I was just surprised because I haven't expected hearing Arirang from a guitar review video. And your review is very nice. I guess I try this guitar in a local shop soon.
Well, you could go back to the Chet Atkins solid body classical guitar. I think they came out in the 80’s. I don’t think they have made them in a while, but they had a stage version and a studio version. These were the first. I am glad to see someone coming back to this concept.
Yes, they're discontinued. At the time I made this video, I wasn't aware of them, but plenty have brought it up.
@@alexrockwellmusic I have found a few for sale, but they are pretty pricey. The Cordoba looks like a great possibility.
Wow! You played Arirang? That is Korean traditional song! Thank you for playing, and I feel proud that I am Korean.
Yes! I have a set of variations on it that I composed years ago. My wife is half Korean, if you're wondering why a white dude is playing traditional Korean music.
A few electric nylons have fixed the gain feedback. Yamaha Silent Nylon for sure.
Your a good player. This is the most inspiring video l have seen today.
Thanks a lot!
Well you gone and done it! Convinced me to buy one! My GC actually had two in stock and I put some money down on one until my mandolin sale goes through. Great review!!
Not a finger stylist and do not play nylon guitar .......however...... I can find myself playing a guitar like this . Think Cordorba has another winner with this one. Thanks for the review ! 👍👍👍
Good review and nice guitar. Be advised that harley benton and hadean also make nylon electrics. Ibanez has been for a while and they are available, and I have a hollow thin version.
What do you do? - plug it into a Bose T4S Tone Matcher and go anywhere you can think of. You can kill the piezo nasal easily and then add all the effects in the world. Chorus, Flanger, Vibe, you name it and your nylon stringed beauty will go 😁
I'm back.
I'm so impressed with your brain that I came back to subscribe.
Love you man
Cliff
Thanks a lot!
There are a lot of solid body nylon strings but not many chambered or semi hollow options. I think that's what you meant.
To add to this, I should have mentioned your playing is incredible...
I played one at the local Guitar Center I went back the very next day to get it. The clerk said you maybe shouldn't have brought it out from the Acoustic guitar area and plugged it into a Fender twin amp. Not 5 minutes after, as you were leaving it was picked up and purchased. He then thank me for my demonstration( As he laughed of course ).
Oof bummer
Chet Atkins played a Kirk Sand electric nylon as I recall -
they are very expensive, sound nice
i can never find a better electric nylon guitar than a yamaha model. I don't own it and unfortunately i don't know the name of the model, it's my teacher's guitar that he bought in second hand ahaha so the history behind it isn't very clear since he also doesn't know where the original owner got it from. But it is clearly to me the best electrical nylon guitar that i have heard so far. I think it's made of maple wood on top and it has the two classical hollow body cuts, what it gives it great acoustic, and 21 freats like an electric guitar with a normal nylon headstock. The action is very like this new guitars from ibanez and a normal electrical guitar, very close to the fretboard for fast a comfortable playing. But contrary to this new ibanez and godin guitars, it doesn't have that pluck sound, (idk how to describe it) that doesn't feel natural to a nylon guitar. This yamaha sounds exactly like a normal nylon, very similar no this cordoba stage but even better in my opinion. And when combined with a reverb, chorus, delay pedals through a good clean amp... it's the most beautiful sound, extremely clear and it does all, contrary to the Cordoba Stage, it only has a volume nob. Even with distortion rocks, but obviously it's not as great as a normal electrical in that genre. I also think and hope this Cordoba Stage sells well and it is accepted in the community because i can't w8 to see how these guitars will evolve so i can get my hands on one.
Is it the Yamaha Silent guitar?
@@alexrockwellmusic no it's not a silent guitar, it's similar to the Cordoba, but the openings are like the electric hollow body guitars
Rondo Music have produced this form of guitar for years for cheap. Their brand is Hadean and had a flamed top. I have a natural top Babilon which is OK for a $150 guitar and I use distortion with it too. But would love to have this one.
It has a great sound. Thanks.
I built a solid classical more than twenty years ago. I can overdrive it without uncontrolled howling feedback so I can play rock numbers. I still prefer my hybrid lute/guitar though.
gonna try flatwound strings on it to tame the amplified squeaks
I mean, if you don't mind paying through the nose for flatwound nylon strings
@@alexrockwellmusic its not bad, i'm only changing strings maybe 2 times a year. Thomastik Classic N are about $17 a set.
There are loads of them. Check the Gibson Chet Atkins probably from the 1960s. Carvin makes a nice one.bThe Brazilian musicians have there own versions too
Nylon vibrations hover holy spruce, redwood, cedar ... romancing all the tones a shy guitar pluck really needs ... may join the band after all. Nice!! Am looking forward to hear how others share what Charlie Byrd, Willie Nelson, Sabicas, Fernando, Segovia, Girl from Ipanema, plus many others, heard, unheard, loved, unloved have kept humble in life to go unspoiled for some time. Though electric avenues may not carry the tradation in a classical sense, it may fill a hole that just might not mind pluggin us into deep, if luck is enough. It may indeed have been the room, however FIshman I too recently have learned very well compliment acoustics with acoustics amped for pleasure. Either way, you seem well adsjusted and much content with the classical sounds. Thank you for sharing!
Ben Woods Nylocaster is a solid body nylon string electric guitar
I tried a Cordoba Stage guitar at our local Guitar Center. The guitar felt fine and comfortable to play for someone who hasn't often played a nylon string guitar. There was an issue with intonation with the guitar I played. I'm not sure if having to constantly retune the guitar is typical for nylon string guitars, but the guitar would not stay in tune.
Was the issue the intonation or tuning stability? If the latter, it depends on how new the strings were and if you had to tune it up from a lower pitch. New sets of nylon strings take several days to settle at pitch. When you apply tension to brand new strings, you can literally hear the pitch falling when you stop cranking the tuning peg. If the guitar was tuned down while on display, then it would still take some time for the strings to settle if you suddenly brought them up to standard tuning. It was also likely shipped to the store with the strings loosened, so that would affect its stability as well.
Nylon strings are a lot more susceptible to stability issues than steel strings, but they do settle once you coax them into a consistent tension.
@@alexrockwellmusic Thanks for your input, Alex!. For me, it was both, but I was more frustrated with the Cordoba Stage's intonation issues. When I first picked up the guitar in the store, it was way out of tune. It was difficult for me to achieve accurate standard tuning, even with an electronic tuner. When I finally got it in tune, I found that there were varying degrees of intonation issues as I played up and down the fretboard. I played other similarly priced nylon string guitars in the store, and experienced some of the same intonation issues. I thought it would be nice to add a nylon string guitar to my arsenal, but I didn't want to spend a lot of money just to have one.
Gotcha. Another thing to consider is that nylon string guitars aren't best tuned with an electronic tuner. You generally get a lot of sour octaves and fifths in upper positions if you don't make adjustments. I have a whole tuning ritual for nylon strings that tends to work on most instruments. It's not really possible to get a guitar to intonate perfectly even with features like individually adjustable saddles. You can only get them within an acceptable margin. With nylon strings, all you can do is cut a good bridge and nut and set the action.
That’s it. I’m going into Guitar Center today to get one.