Fun Fact: Tim stumbled upon the original models that based this guitar in a pawn shop/music store in Europe. He played it for a while and fell in love with it however when he reached out to Ibanez, they looked through their historical catalogue and found out it was on their failed models in the 80s/90s (essentially they didn’t sell as much), after months of back and forth discussions, Ibanez created a prototype for Tim to try and convince the higher ups who didn’t believe it was a good idea to bring back a failed model even if Tim saw the potential. He ended up creating a little demo for the execs, the demo eventually became “Playing God”. The execs approved and the rest is history.
You say this acting like you are privy to this information. Most of us have also watched the Beato interview. You summarize his story very poorly as well. Fun fact: You're lame.
I still have a Ibanez JS100 (lower end Joe Satriani sig model) I bought in 1994 (as a teenager) and mowed yards for three years to pay off. They don't have a good reputation due to their "cheap" Floyd Rose Licensed floating tremolo. I learned how to adjust mine online and the only time I've had to do so was when I switched from .09s to .10s and I haven't had to touch it since. I had a local tech, instructor, and performer over to setup another 1993 Ibanez S540FM I recently purchased and he played the JS. He was shocked. He also used to work at Guitar Center and said, "This is the nicest playing JS I've ever had my hands on and I've played the JS1000, Premium and Prestige models. I never saw the appeal, especially for the price but this thing is incredible." Just goes to show that each and every instrument is unique. I've had several Ibanez electric acoustics and they've been pretty hit or miss. The electronics have always been good, but some sound really good and some don't, even after multiple pro set-ups. I would like to have this Tim H model though. @@bitesizecrayons9187
I definitely agree with you that they created a culture. But the reason I think they were able to do that compared to other shred bands is the fact that they aren't constrained by genre. They aren't afraid to mix things together in new fresh ways. This makes their music extremely refreshing and unique. Also they are much better at writing music than a lot of other shred bands. They have very clear melodic hooks that they actually develop over the course of their music. With other bands there isn't much development and it sounds like lick/riff salad
A lick/riff salad doesn't sound so bad, as such. Some can be great. But I do agree with the rest. They ain't just shredders, they're songwriters. And their approach of a genre salad has absolutely drawn in some fresh air in the guitar music space.
Valid, very well said. Playing god i feel was their step into a very different sounding genre, plus, its impact was very iconic within the guitar community. lol. u had classical guitar players doing the riff
Totally agree that Polyphia has created a culture. Although I'm not big on their music, I have heard most of their songs and fully appreciate the talent they all hold on their instruments. Truly masters of their craft. Also loved the video man! Would love to see some music created by you on it! Cheers!!
Didn’t know Tim until I took both of my sons to a concert as a gift as they are both big fans and too young to make the drive into Dallas at the time. Well as Boomer Bender I walked out just as blown away as my sons. We had a great time.
Just so folks are aware, the non-Tim Henson version of this guitar is circa $499 and is freely available to order at your favorite retail outlet. The biggest difference is the lack of preamp controls; that don't confront me, because I have a dedicated preamp for my acoustic guitars. There's also the finish and the fancy inlays missing on the lower-priced model. I'm not sure about wait times; it's not in stock at Sweetwater, last I checked. [EDIT: it's now in stock] Gibson had a Chet Atkins nylon string, Yamaha makes a nylon APC, I have a Washburn Festival of this same thin body, nylon electric-acoustic type, and I may get the Ibanez version, because similar to some Gipsy Kings' signature guitars it doesn't have a perfectly flat classical-style neck; the radius is 15.7". I find the flat neck annoying on my Washburn. Viewers should be aware the camera/microphone is picking up a lot of pick scrape in this video-it doesn't sound like that coming out of the amp/PA. Not a worry, if you just use your fingers instead of going all Willie Nelson on the thing.
The Cordoba Stage is more expensive and a much better guitar than the Tod 10n. Definitely the next up in quality if you ask me. Godin supposedly makes a pretty decent one, but I haven't played that one.
@@discoparrot8342 Vendors will have a pre-order available, so I suggest you go this route. My local store (five stores, plus online warehouse) has a good relationship with Ibanez.
I've had one of these since March. I believe mine was one of the first 3 in Australia, and we somehow got these before anyone in the US got theirs. To me, it's got a very niche use, but it fit my needs perfectly. Amazing practice guitar for me, loud enough acoustically that I can practice anywhere, anytime, without annoying others, then plugged in, it sounds amazing
Ah man for me it got me into flamenco I actually got it for music production purposes because you can easily EQ a nylon to sound like a harp or lute. Instead, I became obsessed with fingerstyle Spanish music and acoustic progressive rock.
Daym ... I asked Ibanez to buy one when i first saw Tim playing it ... and they said "no plans to release at this stage" ... a couple of months later they released it ... i ordered it and got it in a couple of weeks ... it's nice to play
Nice! It's good to get one that doesn't come apart! Anyone gets one of these, if you want to keep it take it into your guitar fixer guy to have them check it out to make sure the bridge is on there well and to strengthen up any other weak connections they find.
I was way more impressed with this video than I thought I'd be. The guitar and technology is really cool, but your demeanor and excitement are what make the difference. This is the second video of yours I've watched, and I'm subscribed. I like musicians like him that have an appreciation for their instruments, and treat them as such, no matter the price. I treat every instrument I own like a Stradivarius or a Steinway. If it belongs to someone else, I know it's a part of who they are. It affects how they play. The last thing I want is to damage their instrument. Yes, they should be played, but you can minimize wear, wipe things down or treat them when you're done playing, or even use a wrap like on a car depending on the instrument. I just get the feeling he cares about every facet of being a good musician, no matter what he picks up, and I appreciate that.
I got mine like a week ago and its been an absolute dream. Its like the perfect guitar for a bedroom guitarist but it also has this "If i wanted to, i could" vibe to it that applies all around. You CAN take this to a gig, you CAN play all sorts of music that you could play on either a nylon or metal string and you CAN shred and so so much more with it.
@@wonderz_808 It sounds really good when not plugged in, in fact, i prefer it unplugged. Plugged in it has a sound that i cannot describe as anything else but 'metallic' and not in terms of metal the genre.
how are the nylon strings? easy to push down on for weak tiny fingers? thinking of getting one for nephew has weak fingers was looking for something similar to ukulele strings
@@nanazbound The nylon strings themselves feel really nice, i think marginally better than any metal string counterpart. At least in the sense of playing for a long time. One thing that i find a bit hard is switching directly from an electric guitar to the TOD10N, because the difference in neck height is very noticeable. But some other times i just pick it up without having touched the electric at all and i feel right at home.
I remember when I was a teenager I used to hate trying to go from playing electric guitars to acoustic. However when I picked up a nylon string I fell in love with how easy and fun they are to play. So a guitar like this is so cool to me! 💯👍😃
I was fortunate enough to pre-order one from Sweetwater as soon as it was on their site. It was a long wait, but well worth it. I love this guitar! So glad to see you enjoying one.
Dude, that friend is a keeper. Just experimenting this kind of instruments is just out of my mapped budget because i don't do that much acoustic, but if I i did, i'd probably go classical crazy or something like that, and that's a goodbye to my mainstream product, lol.
I was on a 6+ month wait for mine. Luckily, I was able to grab a floor model that was immaculate, beating that wait 😆 🤣 absolutely love it. I play classical, and I also shred on my electric. This is a great blend of the two, and I'm very happy to have it in my roster
1:43 your hand gesture reminded me of "Chuck. Chuck. It's Marvin - your cousin, Marvin BERRY. You know that new sound you're looking for? Well, listen to this!" 🤣
one thing I love about Tim and Polyphia is they have tabs of all their songs. Unlike some bands that go after people covering their music, polyphia gives love to their community. We all know which bands are angry old dudes going after youtube covers. I don't have the skill anymore to play polyphia songs, but I love how distinctive their sound is.
After listening I think the Yamaha SLG-NYLON sounds better and there’s no waiting for one. I owned the Yamaha for a couple years and sold it because I grew weary of changing the strings. I hated that part of owning it. Otherwise the Yamaha is a great guitar.
from my understanding, the key difference is that the Yamaha has a classical-style fingerboard, so its much wider. I think the Tim henson one uses a typical electric guitar style neck.
@@kensenior820the slg 200n has 2 models based on neck width. The wider one that you may be referring to is the slg 200 NW version. Regular one has a narrower neck.👍
@loganr5498 did you end up getting it? They also have the ibanez frh10n which is the same but slightly different art and cheaper. The new batch of these have the tuner/amp functions.
When this guitar came out, I avoided looking it up because I knew I'd want to buy one. Knowing that they take 7 months to get if you don't pay 3x value on Reverb has softened that blow. Fuck I want one.
Personally, unless it can be bypassed, I think it would be a huge pain in the ass. I would be dealing with two separate EQs if I wanted to change it after recording and one of them couldn't be changed. Still super cool for live playing though.
As you say I think that nylon guitars are way more than « classical » and can be experimented and played as variously as electrics or acoustics, I mean there’s a whole new range of sounds to explore
I am super glad I put down a deposit a few days after I saw it, and it arrived unexpectedly about 9 months before it was due. It's a sick guitar. I'm not selling mine.
I ordered from Sweetwater within 36 hours after the guitar was announced, guitar still took 6 months to get here, I've loved playing it though. No thoughts of re-selling it.
As an acoustic player who pretends to play electric, its refreshing to see a guitar bring us back to the basics. I mean how many more quad DSP modelers and IR samples do we really need? Cheers to playing without tons of effects and getting back to raw guitar playing.
If you go back and listen to a bunch of 90s music, particularly like the different ballads and things they had popular at the time, it was extremely common to track a nylon guitar playing the vocal Melody as part of whatever guitar solo was going on. It would be crazy to see that make a comeback.
I'm working on customizing/upgrading a 1995 Fender Squire Strat someone gave me 15 years ago. It is in terrible condition and has a missing saddle and a broken nut, however, Saturday I pulled it out of the cheap gig bag it's been in to try to decide what to do with it, flicked the (at least) 15 year old strings, and the sustain and volume were shockingly good and it was still close to being in tune. It rivals my mid 2000s PRS Santana SE which has the loudest unplugged volume of any of my electric guitars, yet the Fender has beyond dead strings. So I found your video on Squires, and decided it's worth trying to restore/upgrade if for nothing more than the fun of it. I was going to paint it satin or flat back but curiosity got the best of me, so I completely disassembled it and I started sanding down the body. I was surprised to find a nice solid piece across the entire top so I though well, I'll stain this top and do a classic "burst" of some variety. I started sanding it down to remove some of the dings the original red paint had been pressed down into. I noticed the color of the wood was changing where I had to sand a bit deeper so I kept sanding to get an even color and texture and revealed a second layer of wood wherein the grain was perpendicular to the neck and very unique, with dark black, hairline "veins" in it. I repeated the process on the back and found the same. I'm going to stain the top, back, and neck gray, paint the sides and head stock satin or flat black, and use all updated black hardware, pickups, and a black pickguard. It's going to look unlike any other "Strat" ever. Anyway, thanks for one of the videos that made me decide to go for it! Because I watched that video, this one showed up in my feed and I enjoyed it as well. Keep up the good work!
I recently got a nylon string guitar, last time I played one was in HS, was never a fan, but now, it sounds so much warmer than acoustic steel strings, and great review
Ibanez is typically pretty good about their supply and demand as they have many different factories in many different countries but I think that they got caught off guard by the demand of this particular guitar as it was based on a previously-failed guitar. Of course, Tim comes around and puts a little modern updated twist on it as well as showing off just how cool it is in several of their new songs and now tons of people want it. I personally kind of want one as my old acoustic broke a while ago and I've been dying to get a new one that's electro-acoustic. I think I've only ever played a nylon guitar like once in my life and I feel like this would be a great way to get me into playing a guitar like this but that's seemingly way more comfortable because of the body shape.
How has a RUclips guitarist with this kind of content never seen a nylon with an EQ? I ve had a Yamaha since forever, and had seen others before 😅 I love this guitar, polyphia, tim's playing and your content btw
Yes. I saw a video on it. He has mentioned he found it and played it and loved the way it feels. He asked for them to bring it back. Apparently it got some push back but eventually he got them to bring it back
I think that very fact speaks to Mike’s point about creating a culture. Seiji Igusa, an equally brilliant guitarist did a performance for Ibanez on the FRH10N, which is essentially the same as Tim’s TOD10N, but the culture that Tim created around his is what truly drove the value of his “version” so much higher.
@@TheWhyteKnyte If you don't care about the inlays/finish and just want an electric classical def get the FRH10N. That's legit why they made it so people that don't care don't have to pay the artist tax, I'm pretty sure it's exactly the same besides the look. For what it's worth like everyone else hinted at Tim did revive this range after finding the old version in a pawn shop and later bringing it up to Ibanez. Considering his influence on the world of guitar and how nice they made it look I'd say it's more than fairly priced when you compare it to brands like Epiphone and Fenders recent signatures. Like I love Tool but I'm not buying a $1400 Epiphone sig or a $3,000 Gibson even though that silverburst was always a "dream guitar". Fender is no better releasing a MIM Tom Delonge strat for $1300. That said I don't plan on buying one of the TOD10N's cause I'm waiting on the TOD10 prestige's to release and just use the classical sim on those pickups
I began attending NAMM in '96 and spoke with a few major guitar companies that year and a few years after trying to convince them of the need for a solid body nylon stringed guitar. I needed it for touring because I was working with artists who had nylon guitar on their recordings. Unfortunately no one thought it would sell so none of them listened. It took someone like Tim to make them pay attention. Thank you Tim, and Ibanez! In my case, I've never found a guitar that made me play in any particular style...tele country...strat funk...335 jazz. I've owned and played many models... I've never attempted to play any other style than my own.
Surprised to see nobody has mentioned the Fender Japan Yngwie Malmsteen STCL-140YM or their Nylocaster, that style was kinda popular in Flamenco and Jazz-Fusion scenes.
In Latin America in the early 90’s everybody that wanted to learn guitar started classical with nylon strings. Sort of a rite of passage, which is good. I actually learned finger style picking before holding a pic. Later when moving to electric guitars goes more into learning techniques but playing felt a lot easier. Anyway Nylon strings are amazing I have a couple A/E that beautiful warm soulful sound is something you want in your box
For me it's sound quality, and playability compared to price. Martin Standard line of guitars has won awards year after year. They invented most popular designs. They developed processes for conservation.They are a proud American Company. I've owned all the big brands. If I owned the finest custom steel string, it would pay homage to Martin by default. My Martin 00017 was pretty inexpensive. I love it twice as much as any Taylor I ever had. It's a blues machine.
This guitar is such a beautiful thing. Unfortunately... I'm not in the market for another one. But when that moment arrives. I wil, not have to search. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
I waited nearly a Year for the THBB10 Electric. It was in a DIRE need of a setup when I got it. Everything shipped loose. Even the neck bolts were loose.
Been a while since ive seen u on here man. Used to watch so much of ur John Mayer and hendrix videos and it really opened my eyes. Thanks for helping out the guitar community the way you do 👑
Have no idea who Polyphia is, but will look them up. Love the sound of this guitar and your playing is beyond beautiful. So glad I ran across this video. Have never considered a nylon string, but wow! Need to re-evaluate. Thank you!
@@davesargent8748listening to everything again today. Moves me to the point I get shaky and anxious because I can’t contain all the emotion it evokes. That’s only happened a very few times in my life. What a gift!
@@ZachMcCordProgWow, were u ever right! Watched Tim’s interview with Beato yesterday. To say I’m in awe of their talent is such an understatement, but I just can’t find the words. Soul searing!
@@thepuppetshow4556 🤣 🤣 The same thing that happened to me a couple years ago. I just kind of realized the further possibilities of guitar playing I hadn't seen yet. Also the band Animals As Leaders blew my mind a few years ago. Glad you enjoyed it man, Beato is the best
I don't thing I've ever seen another musician's "signature" model guitar make such a big impact. Seems like everyone either has one or is waiting for one. It really is a great sounding guitar, personally I don't like playing on nylon strings, it feels weird to me. But really, the tone speaks for itself.
I have the Godin slim line nylon acoustic that was made popular by Robin Finck, from Nine Inch Nails, that he plays live during hurt. It plays amazingly, and sounds really good recorded. I’d love to hear a comparison between this guitar and the Godin version that is more expensive.
@@Materva-hv6sz well, the Godin design is probably 25 years old now. I’m curious just to see if it’s a cheaper version of the Godin or if it’s nowhere near the quality.
It's crazy that you guys are getting to know this type of guitar just now. In Brazil, we use this A LOT. We even have 7 strings ones. Edit: Who's wondering how brazilians deal with this instrument, look for "Ana Carolina, Seu Jorge - Garganta (Ao Vivo)". It's insane!
This. In Brazilian music, generally Nylon is still king. In many countries, classical guitar is still the first instrument many future guitarrists get started on. And it doesn't mean players only play using classical guitar techniques, or even classical guitar music, but it's used as a versatile instrument for both fingerpicking and strumming using a pick. It's a different school I suppose, but I feel nylon strings are somewhat friendlier and more versatile. A softer tone, full-body, instead of the twangyness that cuts through the voice.
One day I got an Ibanez electro classic slim body. Its not as slim as Tim Henson's guitar but it does bring up Ibanez's history with this type of instrument. Its my main guitar now btw. I would like to try out Yamaha's bodyless nylon
Hi Mike, if you want to geek out on some great nylon playing: Earl Klugh is the guy. (13 Grammy nominations can't be wrong) Really enjoying your videos 🙂
Gibson had a Chet Atkins nylon string in the 80s...guess it shouldn't surprise anyone that Ibanez would rip off Gibson, they've been doing it well since the early 70s
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Fun Fact: Tim stumbled upon the original models that based this guitar in a pawn shop/music store in Europe. He played it for a while and fell in love with it however when he reached out to Ibanez, they looked through their historical catalogue and found out it was on their failed models in the 80s/90s (essentially they didn’t sell as much), after months of back and forth discussions, Ibanez created a prototype for Tim to try and convince the higher ups who didn’t believe it was a good idea to bring back a failed model even if Tim saw the potential. He ended up creating a little demo for the execs, the demo eventually became “Playing God”. The execs approved and the rest is history.
You say this acting like you are privy to this information. Most of us have also watched the Beato interview. You summarize his story very poorly as well. Fun fact: You're lame.
Best thing ever
My mans watched one interview
This guitar would have been super popular with latino rockstars if they got it in their hands back then.
I still have a Ibanez JS100 (lower end Joe Satriani sig model) I bought in 1994 (as a teenager) and mowed yards for three years to pay off. They don't have a good reputation due to their "cheap" Floyd Rose Licensed floating tremolo. I learned how to adjust mine online and the only time I've had to do so was when I switched from .09s to .10s and I haven't had to touch it since. I had a local tech, instructor, and performer over to setup another 1993 Ibanez S540FM I recently purchased and he played the JS. He was shocked. He also used to work at Guitar Center and said, "This is the nicest playing JS I've ever had my hands on and I've played the JS1000, Premium and Prestige models. I never saw the appeal, especially for the price but this thing is incredible." Just goes to show that each and every instrument is unique. I've had several Ibanez electric acoustics and they've been pretty hit or miss. The electronics have always been good, but some sound really good and some don't, even after multiple pro set-ups. I would like to have this Tim H model though. @@bitesizecrayons9187
I ordered my TOD10N back in December and just got it yesterday. Craziness. Beautiful guitar. Absolutely worth the wait.
I definitely agree with you that they created a culture. But the reason I think they were able to do that compared to other shred bands is the fact that they aren't constrained by genre. They aren't afraid to mix things together in new fresh ways. This makes their music extremely refreshing and unique. Also they are much better at writing music than a lot of other shred bands. They have very clear melodic hooks that they actually develop over the course of their music. With other bands there isn't much development and it sounds like lick/riff salad
A lick/riff salad doesn't sound so bad, as such. Some can be great. But I do agree with the rest. They ain't just shredders, they're songwriters. And their approach of a genre salad has absolutely drawn in some fresh air in the guitar music space.
Valid, very well said.
Playing god i feel was their step into a very different sounding genre, plus, its impact was very iconic within the guitar community. lol. u had classical guitar players doing the riff
Shred without any structure or melody is just noise.
Thats all subjective lmao but its cool you love the band bruh
Well it's a good thing they have beautiful melodies too.@@scottbrower9052
Totally agree that Polyphia has created a culture. Although I'm not big on their music, I have heard most of their songs and fully appreciate the talent they all hold on their instruments. Truly masters of their craft. Also loved the video man! Would love to see some music created by you on it! Cheers!!
a culture where everyone tries to copy them throughout the decade like the 2010s with animals as leaders lmao
respect for not hating on them just because you dont like their music like some others on the internet
I prefer their earlier work but I appreciate them diversifying their style
Solid comment.
@@whyisyes3957how early we talking? Like muse or TMH? Or even earlier?
Didn’t know Tim until I took both of my sons to a concert as a gift as they are both big fans and too young to make the drive into Dallas at the time. Well as Boomer Bender I walked out just as blown away as my sons. We had a great time.
I see them next week in OKC
Just so folks are aware, the non-Tim Henson version of this guitar is circa $499 and is freely available to order at your favorite retail outlet. The biggest difference is the lack of preamp controls; that don't confront me, because I have a dedicated preamp for my acoustic guitars. There's also the finish and the fancy inlays missing on the lower-priced model. I'm not sure about wait times; it's not in stock at Sweetwater, last I checked. [EDIT: it's now in stock] Gibson had a Chet Atkins nylon string, Yamaha makes a nylon APC, I have a Washburn Festival of this same thin body, nylon electric-acoustic type, and I may get the Ibanez version, because similar to some Gipsy Kings' signature guitars it doesn't have a perfectly flat classical-style neck; the radius is 15.7". I find the flat neck annoying on my Washburn. Viewers should be aware the camera/microphone is picking up a lot of pick scrape in this video-it doesn't sound like that coming out of the amp/PA. Not a worry, if you just use your fingers instead of going all Willie Nelson on the thing.
The Cordoba stage is also a worthy mention in my opinion
Model name?
@@duewest1998 Ibanez FRH10N
The Cordoba Stage is more expensive and a much better guitar than the Tod 10n. Definitely the next up in quality if you ask me. Godin supposedly makes a pretty decent one, but I haven't played that one.
the best value for this style is 100 percent a cordoba stage
My local music store had six of these guitars in stock early this month. I bought one, of course. Wonderful playing, Mike!
Where do you live hahaha I want a tod10 but I want to play it in person but I can’t find one in a store anywhere 😂
@@discoparrot8342 Vendors will have a pre-order available, so I suggest you go this route. My local store (five stores, plus online warehouse) has a good relationship with Ibanez.
No, seriously, where do you live or what shop was this so I can order one from them and save myself 9 months wait?
@@ProudFilthyCasual The store is out of stock now. As I wrote above, pre-order from your preferred vendor.
I've had one of these since March. I believe mine was one of the first 3 in Australia, and we somehow got these before anyone in the US got theirs. To me, it's got a very niche use, but it fit my needs perfectly. Amazing practice guitar for me, loud enough acoustically that I can practice anywhere, anytime, without annoying others, then plugged in, it sounds amazing
Glad to hear you say that, that's the exact use case i bought it for.
Ah man for me it got me into flamenco
I actually got it for music production purposes because you can easily EQ a nylon to sound like a harp or lute. Instead, I became obsessed with fingerstyle Spanish music and acoustic progressive rock.
would you say that this fills a similar niche as, say, the yamaha silent guitar or the donner hush i?
Looks like the Godin classical that I've had for 10 years... love it!
Nice to see how much you've advanced in your playing since the start of your channel. This inspires ME as one picking my ax back up.
Daym ... I asked Ibanez to buy one when i first saw Tim playing it ... and they said "no plans to release at this stage" ... a couple of months later they released it ... i ordered it and got it in a couple of weeks ... it's nice to play
Nice! It's good to get one that doesn't come apart!
Anyone gets one of these, if you want to keep it take it into your guitar fixer guy to have them check it out to make sure the bridge is on there well and to strengthen up any other weak connections they find.
That inlay really tied the guitar together.
I was way more impressed with this video than I thought I'd be. The guitar and technology is really cool, but your demeanor and excitement are what make the difference. This is the second video of yours I've watched, and I'm subscribed.
I like musicians like him that have an appreciation for their instruments, and treat them as such, no matter the price. I treat every instrument I own like a Stradivarius or a Steinway. If it belongs to someone else, I know it's a part of who they are. It affects how they play. The last thing I want is to damage their instrument. Yes, they should be played, but you can minimize wear, wipe things down or treat them when you're done playing, or even use a wrap like on a car depending on the instrument. I just get the feeling he cares about every facet of being a good musician, no matter what he picks up, and I appreciate that.
I got mine like a week ago and its been an absolute dream. Its like the perfect guitar for a bedroom guitarist but it also has this "If i wanted to, i could" vibe to it that applies all around. You CAN take this to a gig, you CAN play all sorts of music that you could play on either a nylon or metal string and you CAN shred and so so much more with it.
does it sound good when not plugged in?
@@wonderz_808 It sounds really good when not plugged in, in fact, i prefer it unplugged. Plugged in it has a sound that i cannot describe as anything else but 'metallic' and not in terms of metal the genre.
how are the nylon strings? easy to push down on for weak tiny fingers? thinking of getting one for nephew has weak fingers was looking for something similar to ukulele strings
@@nanazbound The nylon strings themselves feel really nice, i think marginally better than any metal string counterpart. At least in the sense of playing for a long time. One thing that i find a bit hard is switching directly from an electric guitar to the TOD10N, because the difference in neck height is very noticeable. But some other times i just pick it up without having touched the electric at all and i feel right at home.
I remember when I was a teenager I used to hate trying to go from playing electric guitars to acoustic. However when I picked up a nylon string I fell in love with how easy and fun they are to play. So a guitar like this is so cool to me! 💯👍😃
I love the tim henson signature guitars they are so great
I was fortunate enough to pre-order one from Sweetwater as soon as it was on their site. It was a long wait, but well worth it. I love this guitar! So glad to see you enjoying one.
Dude, that friend is a keeper. Just experimenting this kind of instruments is just out of my mapped budget because i don't do that much acoustic, but if I i did, i'd probably go classical crazy or something like that, and that's a goodbye to my mainstream product, lol.
I was on a 6+ month wait for mine. Luckily, I was able to grab a floor model that was immaculate, beating that wait 😆 🤣 absolutely love it. I play classical, and I also shred on my electric. This is a great blend of the two, and I'm very happy to have it in my roster
how does it sound in real life? i think it sounds like ass in this video
I play mine every single day. I absolutely love it
Godin Multiac also is one that I think does the job for the price I paid years ago) it's still one of my most used.
It sounds really good for R'n'B stuff, jazz, polyphia stuff
I have one and I absolutely love it, I also have the new silver electric Tim signature on the way
1:43 your hand gesture reminded me of "Chuck. Chuck. It's Marvin - your cousin, Marvin BERRY. You know that new sound you're looking for? Well, listen to this!" 🤣
one thing I love about Tim and Polyphia is they have tabs of all their songs. Unlike some bands that go after people covering their music, polyphia gives love to their community. We all know which bands are angry old dudes going after youtube covers.
I don't have the skill anymore to play polyphia songs, but I love how distinctive their sound is.
Ibanez is doing really cool stuff with the Polyphia gear. Congrats on the wedding Grant, thanks for sharing the guitar with us.
After listening I think the Yamaha SLG-NYLON sounds better and there’s no waiting for one. I owned the Yamaha for a couple years and sold it because I grew weary of changing the strings. I hated that part of owning it. Otherwise the Yamaha is a great guitar.
from my understanding, the key difference is that the Yamaha has a classical-style fingerboard, so its much wider. I think the Tim henson one uses a typical electric guitar style neck.
@@kensenior820 Makes sense
get a cordoba stage
@@kensenior820the slg 200n has 2 models based on neck width. The wider one that you may be referring to is the slg 200 NW version. Regular one has a narrower neck.👍
I got my TOD10N in May and have played it every day since. It’s the most comfortable guitar I’ve ever picked up.
Is it good for beginners? I really want one but I’m a bit hesitant
@@loganr5498 hey, have you gotten it?
@loganr5498 did you end up getting it? They also have the ibanez frh10n which is the same but slightly different art and cheaper. The new batch of these have the tuner/amp functions.
I just got mine last week. I'm loving it so far. Been waiting on it all year
When this guitar came out, I avoided looking it up because I knew I'd want to buy one. Knowing that they take 7 months to get if you don't pay 3x value on Reverb has softened that blow. Fuck I want one.
That EQ is super powerful. It seems like that would be a massive help for recording.
Personally, unless it can be bypassed, I think it would be a huge pain in the ass. I would be dealing with two separate EQs if I wanted to change it after recording and one of them couldn't be changed. Still super cool for live playing though.
I remember falling in love with this type of guitar when the late Ben Woods debuted his Nylocaster
Maybe also try Yamaha Silent Guitar and Godin Multiac Series which also have stunning sound and even better EQ.
As you say I think that nylon guitars are way more than « classical » and can be experimented and played as variously as electrics or acoustics, I mean there’s a whole new range of sounds to explore
Such a crazy unique sound. I love it tbh. idk anything about the subject. only thing I know how to do is listen LOL
lol, this guy just loves whatever next thing he gets that he can sponsor through sweetwater.
Was nice to hear your thoughts as a guitar newcomer, you have passion and talk very clearly
I am super glad I put down a deposit a few days after I saw it, and it arrived unexpectedly about 9 months before it was due. It's a sick guitar. I'm not selling mine.
Cheers for sharing. Greg 59 years old Australia 🇦🇺
I ordered from Sweetwater within 36 hours after the guitar was announced, guitar still took 6 months to get here, I've loved playing it though. No thoughts of re-selling it.
As an acoustic player who pretends to play electric, its refreshing to see a guitar bring us back to the basics. I mean how many more quad DSP modelers and IR samples do we really need? Cheers to playing without tons of effects and getting back to raw guitar playing.
If you go back and listen to a bunch of 90s music, particularly like the different ballads and things they had popular at the time, it was extremely common to track a nylon guitar playing the vocal Melody as part of whatever guitar solo was going on. It would be crazy to see that make a comeback.
I got this as a bday gift it is my favorite thing ever
I'm working on customizing/upgrading a 1995 Fender Squire Strat someone gave me 15 years ago. It is in terrible condition and has a missing saddle and a broken nut, however, Saturday I pulled it out of the cheap gig bag it's been in to try to decide what to do with it, flicked the (at least) 15 year old strings, and the sustain and volume were shockingly good and it was still close to being in tune. It rivals my mid 2000s PRS Santana SE which has the loudest unplugged volume of any of my electric guitars, yet the Fender has beyond dead strings. So I found your video on Squires, and decided it's worth trying to restore/upgrade if for nothing more than the fun of it. I was going to paint it satin or flat back but curiosity got the best of me, so I completely disassembled it and I started sanding down the body. I was surprised to find a nice solid piece across the entire top so I though well, I'll stain this top and do a classic "burst" of some variety. I started sanding it down to remove some of the dings the original red paint had been pressed down into. I noticed the color of the wood was changing where I had to sand a bit deeper so I kept sanding to get an even color and texture and revealed a second layer of wood wherein the grain was perpendicular to the neck and very unique, with dark black, hairline "veins" in it. I repeated the process on the back and found the same. I'm going to stain the top, back, and neck gray, paint the sides and head stock satin or flat black, and use all updated black hardware, pickups, and a black pickguard. It's going to look unlike any other "Strat" ever. Anyway, thanks for one of the videos that made me decide to go for it! Because I watched that video, this one showed up in my feed and I enjoyed it as well. Keep up the good work!
I just bought one of these and I LOVE IT……… so sweet.
Glad to see its so in demand! Maybe we will see a beginner option one day.
Ordered mine a few days ago. I cannot wait :)
where did you order it btw? :)
I recently got a nylon string guitar, last time I played one was in HS, was never a fan, but now, it sounds so much warmer than acoustic steel strings, and great review
I haven't really even listened to Tim Henson, but this guitar has me intrigued.
Ibanez is typically pretty good about their supply and demand as they have many different factories in many different countries but I think that they got caught off guard by the demand of this particular guitar as it was based on a previously-failed guitar. Of course, Tim comes around and puts a little modern updated twist on it as well as showing off just how cool it is in several of their new songs and now tons of people want it. I personally kind of want one as my old acoustic broke a while ago and I've been dying to get a new one that's electro-acoustic. I think I've only ever played a nylon guitar like once in my life and I feel like this would be a great way to get me into playing a guitar like this but that's seemingly way more comfortable because of the body shape.
How has a RUclips guitarist with this kind of content never seen a nylon with an EQ? I ve had a Yamaha since forever, and had seen others before 😅 I love this guitar, polyphia, tim's playing and your content btw
6:40 and then theres me, i play metal and rock on every type of guitar
that guitar has been around before tim henson. Goes to show how artist can boost the value of it
Yes. I saw a video on it. He has mentioned he found it and played it and loved the way it feels.
He asked for them to bring it back. Apparently it got some push back but eventually he got them to bring it back
I think that very fact speaks to Mike’s point about creating a culture.
Seiji Igusa, an equally brilliant guitarist did a performance for Ibanez on the FRH10N, which is essentially the same as Tim’s TOD10N, but the culture that Tim created around his is what truly drove the value of his “version” so much higher.
Just do research bro, like someone stated Ibanez did this guitar it failed. Tim got them to bring it back. At a affordable price. What’s the issue?
no it didn’t a different ibanez nylon string he found but they were different guitars
@@TheWhyteKnyte If you don't care about the inlays/finish and just want an electric classical def get the FRH10N. That's legit why they made it so people that don't care don't have to pay the artist tax, I'm pretty sure it's exactly the same besides the look. For what it's worth like everyone else hinted at Tim did revive this range after finding the old version in a pawn shop and later bringing it up to Ibanez.
Considering his influence on the world of guitar and how nice they made it look I'd say it's more than fairly priced when you compare it to brands like Epiphone and Fenders recent signatures. Like I love Tool but I'm not buying a $1400 Epiphone sig or a $3,000 Gibson even though that silverburst was always a "dream guitar". Fender is no better releasing a MIM Tom Delonge strat for $1300. That said I don't plan on buying one of the TOD10N's cause I'm waiting on the TOD10 prestige's to release and just use the classical sim on those pickups
dude its crazy you only have 237k subscribers. Keep it up and you will get over a million i'm sure.
I began attending NAMM in '96 and spoke with a few major guitar companies that year and a few years after trying to convince them of the need for a solid body nylon stringed guitar. I needed it for touring because I was working with artists who had nylon guitar on their recordings. Unfortunately no one thought it would sell so none of them listened. It took someone like Tim to make them pay attention. Thank you Tim, and Ibanez!
In my case, I've never found a guitar that made me play in any particular style...tele country...strat funk...335 jazz. I've owned and played many models... I've never attempted to play any other style than my own.
This isn’t a solid body. It’s hollow with fan bracing.
Got mine last Wednesday. Absolutely love it.
That is really nice. Beautiful
Obviously I play a lot of nylon
thats a sick looking guitar
bro your camera is insane
Surprised to see nobody has mentioned the Fender Japan Yngwie Malmsteen STCL-140YM or their Nylocaster, that style was kinda popular in Flamenco and Jazz-Fusion scenes.
ibanez frh10n is also a good option too. Especially now that it is upgraded with the tuner/amp functions
I love how chill your vids are!
Your playing and tone is fantastic. Great video man keep it up!
In Latin America in the early 90’s everybody that wanted to learn guitar started classical with nylon strings. Sort of a rite of passage, which is good. I actually learned finger style picking before holding a pic. Later when moving to electric guitars goes more into learning techniques but playing felt a lot easier. Anyway Nylon strings are amazing I have a couple A/E that beautiful warm soulful sound is something you want in your box
For me it's sound quality, and playability compared to price. Martin Standard line of guitars has won awards year after year. They invented most popular designs. They developed processes for conservation.They are a proud American Company. I've owned all the big brands. If I owned the finest custom steel string, it would pay homage to Martin by default. My Martin 00017 was pretty inexpensive. I love it twice as much as any Taylor I ever had. It's a blues machine.
That second lick u played I wanna learn now
Look up the brazilian genre of MPB, it has nylon guitars all over the place and its used in very interesting ways!
grant is a great freind to let you borrow it. shouts out Grant. you a real one
Loved your Silver Sky vs SE video and this one is just as great! Thank you for your honest reviews mate.
Thanks for this review, I just bought one to play jazz in weddings.
This guitar is such a beautiful thing. Unfortunately... I'm not in the market for another one. But when that moment arrives. I wil, not have to search. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
I need to learn everything about this guitar before buying my first guitar
Currently playing on my fathers almeria its 20 years old
Godin has been making full 22 fret nylon guitars with piezo and eq for years but they don’t seem to get as much love.
Yamaha and cordoba too and probably some other manufacturers too
And what about the Gibson Chet Atkins?
You can get 3 of these for the price of one multiac though
just saw Polyphia live last week.
phenomenal, they're even better live and I've seen many live shows going back decades.
cheers!
I waited nearly a Year for the THBB10 Electric.
It was in a DIRE need of a setup when I got it.
Everything shipped loose. Even the neck bolts were loose.
Tim can play any brand and sound fantastic ! the people like to buy idols guitar. SRV's. , pink floyd , Hendrix...
Been a while since ive seen u on here man. Used to watch so much of ur John Mayer and hendrix videos and it really opened my eyes. Thanks for helping out the guitar community the way you do 👑
Have no idea who Polyphia is, but will look them up. Love the sound of this guitar and your playing is beyond beautiful. So glad I ran across this video. Have never considered a nylon string, but wow! Need to re-evaluate. Thank you!
If you want to hear the nylon in action, check out “Playing God”, “Chimera”, or “Ego Death”. Most of their stuff uses electric guitar though.
Polyphia will change your life regarding the guitar lol, animals as leaders too
@@davesargent8748listening to everything again today. Moves me to the point I get shaky and anxious because I can’t contain all the emotion it evokes. That’s only happened a very few times in my life. What a gift!
@@ZachMcCordProgWow, were u ever right! Watched Tim’s interview with Beato yesterday. To say I’m in awe of their talent is such an understatement, but I just can’t find the words. Soul searing!
@@thepuppetshow4556 🤣 🤣 The same thing that happened to me a couple years ago. I just kind of realized the further possibilities of guitar playing I hadn't seen yet. Also the band Animals As Leaders blew my mind a few years ago. Glad you enjoyed it man, Beato is the best
They are beautiful to play
always wanted to try this guitar or the TOD10 i love polyphia's style
I don't thing I've ever seen another musician's "signature" model guitar make such a big impact. Seems like everyone either has one or is waiting for one. It really is a great sounding guitar, personally I don't like playing on nylon strings, it feels weird to me. But really, the tone speaks for itself.
The guitar kinda reminds me of my old Bently have, it’s got a slim body and feels good.
I have the Godin slim line nylon acoustic that was made popular by Robin Finck, from Nine Inch Nails, that he plays live during hurt. It plays amazingly, and sounds really good recorded. I’d love to hear a comparison between this guitar and the Godin version that is more expensive.
The comparison would be interesting, because they both have telecaster style bodies
@@Materva-hv6sz well, the Godin design is probably 25 years old now. I’m curious just to see if it’s a cheaper version of the Godin or if it’s nowhere near the quality.
It always amuses me who average players believe is amazing.
Seems pretty kickass my whole family is just starting out but if I get fast I think we are going to buy one
Cheers to Grant! And gratz on the wedding dude
It's crazy that you guys are getting to know this type of guitar just now. In Brazil, we use this A LOT. We even have 7 strings ones.
Edit: Who's wondering how brazilians deal with this instrument, look for "Ana Carolina, Seu Jorge - Garganta (Ao Vivo)". It's insane!
Nylon guitars with a pickup? Cause steel string guitars with a pickup are nothing out of the ordinary, just saying, it has to be nylon with pickup
@@klamin_original Yeah, bro. Nylon. The video is about an electric nylon strings guitar.
@@joaoaugustolandim which company manufactures them in Brazil?
This. In Brazilian music, generally Nylon is still king. In many countries, classical guitar is still the first instrument many future guitarrists get started on. And it doesn't mean players only play using classical guitar techniques, or even classical guitar music, but it's used as a versatile instrument for both fingerpicking and strumming using a pick. It's a different school I suppose, but I feel nylon strings are somewhat friendlier and more versatile. A softer tone, full-body, instead of the twangyness that cuts through the voice.
Uma baixaria boa q nem nos violões de 7 cordas n tem em nenhum outro canto
Yamahas Slg200N fits that category.. I have never played it but I have the Slg200s and really enjoy it's unique features
Thank you, Grant!
Great video thanks for making this! I’ve been wanting to see. Video on this specific guitar!
I reserved one when they first came out and sold it for $1,500. Just bought it again last week.
One day I got an Ibanez electro classic slim body. Its not as slim as Tim Henson's guitar but it does bring up Ibanez's history with this type of instrument. Its my main guitar now btw. I would like to try out Yamaha's bodyless nylon
Hi Mike, if you want to geek out on some great nylon playing: Earl Klugh is the guy. (13 Grammy nominations can't be wrong) Really enjoying your videos 🙂
I ordered my, took 9 months……WELL WORTH THE WAIT!
Amazing content and presentation. Really enjoyed the excitement in this for my first time viewing your channel. Keep it up man 🙌🏽
Beautiful playing, dude!
Very nice Godin. Props to Ibanez for keeping the price down and not being dickheads, though.
Gibson had a Chet Atkins nylon string in the 80s...guess it shouldn't surprise anyone that Ibanez would rip off Gibson, they've been doing it well since the early 70s
@@jasondorsey7110don’t think ibanez ripped that off bro 😂
I made a solid body nylon strings 15 years back. Back then everyone was like why you want one.
I have one of these, and absolutely love it.