I hope Secret Wars ends in a soft reset that allows the main Avengers, Spider-Man, X-Men, and FF to all exist in the same world at the same time like in the comics.
@shaneadams8165 I have a feeling that that may require some recast that people won't like though. Unless Disney just keeps up with the dump trucks of money
Honestly i really liked the frist fantastic four movie i was a kid when it came out of course but ive went back and watched it sure it has issues but didn’t deserve the hate it got
X Men 97 should stay as their own universe to tell more grand and complex stories that can't be wrapped up in a two hour movie. They would really have no limitations.
97 is its own thing, I get the whole multiverse thing, but even Feige and the creator of 97 have said its a standalone. The fox X-men are currently Canon until it is changed by the reset, LIKE IT OR NOT. Deadpool 3 was Canon, and they made Logan, the end of the X-men timeline, Canon
@ph03nixr0s3 IT REALLY WOULD, Fun fact. James Marsters who played Demon King Piccolo in Dragon Ball Evolution was actually cast as Zamasu in Dragon Ball Super and in games ever since. He himself was given a redemption arc in the best way possible. Granted he himself a fan of Dragon Ball, did try to fight for his character to be as faithful to the manga as possible but I digress, if a redemption can happen to James then the same could be said about Miles
I personally LOVE the idea of Miles Teller’s Reed Richards back as The Maker. I would also love to see Nick Cage’s Ghost Rider, Thomas Jane back as The Punisher or War Machine Punisher, 03’ Hulk back or even as version of Maestro. My last wish is obscure but it could be so cool… Toei Spider-Man (Japanese version). Him coming into battle with the other Spider-verse characters and his robot Leopardon would be EPIC.
Top 10 cameos Id love to see in Secret Wars. Even if they’re tiny: 1. Howard the Duck from 1986 2. David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury 3. Thomas Jane as Punisher in War Machine’s armor 4. Ben Affleck’s Daredevil 5. Matt Salinger as Old Man Captain America 6. Ioan Gruffud as Mr Fantastic 7. Nicholas Cage as Ghost Rider 8. Jared Leto as Morbius 9. Michael Fassbender as Magneto 10. Lou Ferrigno as Hulk Honorable Mention: Phil Coulson as portrayed in Agents of Shield.
If the demon in an armor story didn’t exist, then I’d agree that this doesn’t work. If No Way Home and Loki didn’t exist either, then this REALLY wouldn’t work.
Why it wouldn't work? it can just be considered as classic MCU character recycling, turning them into another character by adding layers to their previous character. Example is White Wolf and Mordok. Questionable virtue, high Ego and Intellect is already present on Tony Stark so it wouldn't be so hard to make him the Doom. Just add some trauma and send him to Kamar-taj and he's basically Dr. Doom
I'm sure RDJ will totally kill it. But can't help feeling like it's a bit of a disservice to the OG Victor Von Doom. He deserves a proper origin set up. But hey it's multiverse now so they can make anything they want now.
@@kane7173They should just make and call him evil Superior Ironman Tony Stark which is what he will be. Save the real Doom after they Reboot the MCU after Secret Wars
If they do bring out the animated characters for big movies, either keep the scene small and keep them in their style or give them an actual real design if they have a bigger role.
@@mythic6632 I did and what didn't make sense to me was why Wade says he was digging up Wolverine from his grave in North Dakota, but in the movie Logan they said he was buried in Canada his home country. why??
@@mythic6632 I think they say or imply that the Logan that died was in the same universe as this Deadpool. I believe he says to the new Wolverine that his Wolverine died saving those kids. maybe it could be a 4th wall break moment, saying North Dakota as the actual place it was filmed in, if it was. that would be kind of funny
Maybe I’m stupid, (my wife says I am sometimes) idk how people can’t tell the difference between RDJ iron man & RDJ Doom. Like I can tell the difference between Chris Human Torch & Chris Captain America, as an example. Now yes years passed an different studio. However if they had been same studio an not many years I still don’t see the problem. It’s a different universe 🤷♂️
People can tell the difference. The problem is that RDJ's Tony Stark is genre defining. It's going to be very hard to not look at him and just see Tony. Chris Evans was a good Torch, but that role isn't even close to as famous.
I’ve been saying Teller as the Maker for Secret Wars would be amazing. Sadly we’d be unlikely to see the full original FF team because…..well if you know you know
You're wrong, Marvel's contract with Sony says Marvel has control of how Spider Man is presented in film and Sony has to adhere to those set guidelines or the film rights to the character revert back to Marvel. Sony can't change anything in regards to how Peter is portrayed, his sexuality etc. They have to stay consistent to how the character has always been presented.
Sony has certain final authority over casting and the script when it comes to Spider-Man which is one of the issues behind the lack of news of what the next Spider-Man film will be about. Marvel it seems wants the next Spidey film to be street level and feature Daredevil,The Kingpin, and the Punisher. Sony wants to duplicate the success of No Way Home (and set up additional Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield produced Spider-Man films)by having another crossover Spider-Man film which Marvel sees as stepping on Secret Wars. It seems that Marvel and Sony are heading towards a compromise where elements of both storylines will be used.
RDJ is the real Marvel Jesus Look at his stance at comic con. He knows he's a Disney God He about to bring Disney some bread by selling an unholy amount of tickets 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
@@wilmaso Nah, he really isn't. It's just that the MCU built him and Captain America up too much, but in reality, there are many other great characters.
You know there's a way it could work. If instead of doom being a variant of Iron Man. This world's Iron Man is a variant of Dr doom. In the comics Tony Stark was adopted by Anthony Stark. What if on the majority of worlds It was Tom Cruise that was Iron Man. But on the prime Earth Anthony Stark instead adopted a little baby from a gypsy family in Lavaria?
@@blackdynamite_5470 I really do wish they hadn't brought him back but here we are. Either way, the fact that Wolverine, Deadpool, Spider Man, Doctor Strange and the Fantastic Four will be in the finale of the Multiverse Saga is enough for me to give a shit. Also, Doom is great. I have a feeling they will rehire Jonathan Majors or recast Kang, and wrap up his storyline. They've simply referenced it too many times to just drop it like that.
I hope they bring in the darker side in as well. Werewolf by Night, Elsa, Moon Knight, Man Thing. All great and there's room to grow them (especially Moon Knight)
Bring in the badass character actors that did the heavy lifting in the Roger Corman F4 from the 90s. Whole lot better than what we got in the 2010s that's for damn sure.
I just want to say that this is the greatest comic book channel that exists. I've been a fan of Marvel and DC since I was a kid in the 90s, but there's so much I don't know that I've learned from this channel! I wish you continued success with Comics Explained good sir!
I can tell you right now, Wanda Maximoff went to that void in Deadpool and Wolverine. There is a Statue Of Wanda I think it is in the underground base of Blade, Gambit , Electra , and X 23. I suspect that was why Dr Strange went into the Void and was killed by Cassandra Nova.
I think its very telling of the drop in quality of the kang arc, that they brought back rdj like this. They needed him to save marvel with iron man 1, and now they need him as a dr doom
Reedwas also iin the void until only Johnny wasleft. If the 1st F4 will bein Avengers, it would include Johnny sincethey would come from a different pointin time
Rob I gotta tell ya I think you're great man. I been witcha for like a decade. On my days off or the off chance I don't have much going on I binge watch yer videos. I was born in 82 so I grew up hard in the animated series camp, X-Men, Batman, Spider-Man. I had an uncle that did some time in prison and he would send me all the comics that he already read so I went down through there in the Cris Claremont X-Men days. Seems like when it comes to all this we are gentleman of similar ilk. Thanks for all the education and re education you give me.
Your previous video has been trending like crazy, alot of people seem to grasp the idea now Although I still believe rdj will play the original doom, and he just so happens to look like Tony stark😂
I personally think a massive scene in these movies will be when Spiderman sees Doom and realises he’s RDJ and that sets up some big emotional dialogue.
Regarding Spider-Man characters in the MCU, I'm hoping they largely keep them separate from the Spider-Verse series - for now. What I mean by that is that Miguel may be - intentionally or unintentionally - trimming the connections in the Web of Life and Destiny to keep his branch of the multiverse separate from the rest of the MCU. The only event we've seen bridge the gap so far was No Way Home - with Miguel mentioning "Doctor Strange and that little nerd back on Earth-199999" and both crossing over with Venom's universe (which would make that part of the Spider-Verse side). This would keep the movies largely isolated from anything Marvel decides to pull, and _might_ even preserve it across an event like Secret Wars. It's a branch that's overall less stable than the rest (-> glitching outside your own universe) - however, in turn they managed to develop stabilization tech that may stave off the effect of incursions. So it could be a branch that Loki didn't manage to grab, but isn't immediately unraveling either. This way you can set up a more contained live action roster of Spider characters in the MCU. Possibly with variants of some Spider-Verse characters. I'd love to see the scrawny nerd variant of Miguel from the original Spider-Verse comics for example. Then you can later bring those over into Spider-Verse later. Something along the lines of them exploring the Web of Life and Destiny from their end, and managing to open a connection across the division, raining on Miguel's parade and proving him wrong by example...
The fact that Johnny Storm FINALLY made his re-debut in the MCU in Deadpool & Wolverine makes your FF theory that much more cool imo. In theory, the MCU has so many directions to go in and personally, I’m more than ready to see what they do with it.
That was such a underwhelming death. I enjoyed MOM but that ending really messed it up a bit for me. I hope they bring her back and give her arc a better end
@@shrekshrek8307 Wanda has to return in secret wars because having her death be in Dr strange movie is terrible and the way she died was so anticlimactic
I feel like bringing the animated characters to the live action universe would be very cool but also very distracting. Just walking around people would notice, but I think they could remedy this by creating tech or a spell that synced them with the live action. So you would get to see them for a short period in their animated form for the excitement, then transform them to their live action counterpart. They could even cover them with one of those shield chameleon suits or something, and as the battle goes on, it takes damage, and you can see more of their animated self. So, like in an end battle, they are animated at the end. They could really have fun with this
A cool idea with the Loki dies thing is: The new life for a singular timeline universe could just be a seed from the multiverse-tree that Loki creates as a safeguard or it "sprouts" from the tree towards its end to spawn the new universe. Thats my take with the whole tree motive the multiverse has atm.
Tom is 100% getting the black suit in SM4. How? Who knows, there could be a bunch of decent explanations on how he ends up with it. BUT, It's going to be cool to see the reunion of Tobey and Tom, and then when they suit up Tobey see's that Tom has succumb to the Black suit. Even just a look of "oh fuck" will be epic.
Do you really think Tobey and Andrew are going to return lmao. I’m not against it or anything, I’d think it would be cool, but I don’t think there’s a high chance they’re returning
@@JorgeGomez-hx5uu I mean if Tom’s spider man has the black suit going in to avengers 5 then that would explain why tobey and Andrew would come back to kinda help take back control of Tom’s spider man I could be wrong tho 🤷🏾♂️
@@prospersikhwari5289 I suppose I could see them doing a quick flash of a universe where everyone in that universe is animated or something. Like how in the 2nd doctor strange they were quickly going through universes But even that is highly unlikely And 100% guaranteed for sure not going to be on the same screen like in rodger rabbit...
Man, don't you miss waking up Saturday mornings, sitting in front of the TV, eating some Frosted Flakes or Cap n Crunch or Cookie Crisps watching X-Men, then Spider-Man cartoons?
Ok i have the perfect theory for RDJ as Doctor Doom (Not based off previous comics) 1. RDJ is playing a Tony Stark Variant from the new Fantastic Gour Universe. In this world, Tony from the 1st Iron Man Movie never escaped out of the cave and the original Mach 1 Iron had a misfire and accidentally disfigured Tony. Stark enterprises never progressed from that point due Tony never returned to his birthright. Instead he creates a new identity as Doom based off being an Arms Dealer. He makes a sizable fortune from his endeavors. Since stark enterprises stalls without Tony at the head, a new smartest man steps up as Reed Richard’s and they move into the tower and rename it Baxter Building and the story writes itself
I think the younger version of the X-Men were the team that Wolverine let get killed, they were just older. That's why they also had comic accurate suits. They were the ones who let Logan free from Weapon X, so it would make sense he returns to them later, similar to the events of X-Men. And similar to the events of X2, the X-Mansion gets raided, except in this universe, it doesn't end the same.
I think the three groups beyond people just showing up should be X-men the what if crew and the avengers and maybe Toby Andrew etc getting their own version of spider people so spiderverse can do it’s own thing and we can get cool versions of spider people like a version of spider that fuses with the sinister six villains
People saying "he can’t play two characters! What are they doing?" Seem to forget that Chris Evans played Johnny Storm and then killed it as Captain America. People can play multiple characters. It can work. Let's calm down and remember that RDJ has amazing range and the talent to pull this off.
Not in the same franchise, and don't try to talk about Deadpool because Evans in that was a meta joke not a major villain with a whole Avengers movie named after him.
A lot of people played 2 characters in movies outside of the MCU continuity, and for everyone who's played 2 characters in the MCU they were pretty minor roles that are hardly memorable. The closest you get to this in the MCU is Gemma Chan playing Minerva and Cersi.
Rob what you said about the second fantastic four team I 100% agree that would be really cool if they were to add the maker in and use that particular version of read as the maker now if marble falls what you're saying they might as well start cutting you a check
Rob refusing to be miserable with the "gatekeepers" is why he's the best comics channel. Y'all continue to whine at anything marvel does while we eat over here. I have faith in RDJ
This x1000. I immediately wanted to see what Rob would cook up with this news. I've never seen so many people be up in arms while simultaneously say they don't care about the MCU anymore. Also I've seen so many people say this casting is desperate and was done because the MCU is "failing" which makes no sense. This Doomsday movie and RDJ as Doom is only a reality because Jonathan Majors got in trouble. if Majors stayed clean we would be talking about Avengers: Kang Dynasty right now not RDJ.
@@mr.l5783And Marvel clearly has a plan with RDJ as doom. They knew this would be the reaction, but it’s gonna make sense when we finally see it on screen
10:52 MCU logic already gave us this answer in Multiverse of Madness. If they make X-Men '97 canon and bring them in Secret Wars, the moment they leave their universe, they'll become live action
They should just make and call him evil Superior Ironman Tony Stark which is what he will be. Save the real Doom after they Reboot the MCU after Secret Wars
If I saw some animated characters throwing hands alongside some of their live action counterparts I think it’d be pretty boss. We’ve seen across the spiderverse, and we watched a few cartoon dimensions dr strange crossed through with America chavez, but if there were scenes that included some cartoon variants fighting alongside their real, live action counterparts and their punches hitting as hard in real life, since they are fighting for something just as real as any other variant, I think that’d be pretty awesome. Cartoon blood and cartoon death means the same as any other blood or death too.
I will gladly take a Who Framed Roger Rabbit scene if we get Alison Sealy-Smith as Storm reminding an army of doombots about their place in the picture.
I firmly believe the animated Xmen will play a pivotal role in Doomsday and Secret War. Wouldn't reboot it otherwise. They don't need to be animated, it'd be off-putting, just bring them into live action
Dead Franchise 😂It it such momumental BAD decision,theres just no hope whatsoever they could save the future of the mcu with colossal failure like the marvels and bad decision like Pedro pascal ,female silver sufer and bring this guy back for anything else than iron man.Dr doom was one the ONLY element still of interest and now its DOOM
I hope Secret Wars ends in a soft reset that allows the main Avengers, Spider-Man, X-Men, and FF to all exist in the same world at the same time like in the comics.
That’s the whole point Brodie
Same and then never mention a “multiverse” (aka unlimited Cameo/ death has no meaning excuse) again for at least two decades.
Sounds insane... especially this guy trying to explain it.
Me too and I think that’s what’s happening
@shaneadams8165 I have a feeling that that may require some recast that people won't like though. Unless Disney just keeps up with the dump trucks of money
Honestly i really liked the frist fantastic four movie i was a kid when it came out of course but ive went back and watched it sure it has issues but didn’t deserve the hate it got
Agreed and alot of the content that gets hate doesn't either
I love those movies too. The only thing they got wrong was doom and Galactus silver surfer was awesome by Lawrence Fishburne
Yes bring back Victor Von Doom. Not a freaking variant played by Iron man! 🤦🏽♂️
@@retror.d.1630there will be both lol everyone needs to just calm down.
I love that movie growing up.
X Men 97 should stay as their own universe to tell more grand and complex stories that can't be wrapped up in a two hour movie. They would really have no limitations.
I want it to be its own thing everything from the 90’s animation still was mentioned and I loved it
Definitely.
97 is its own thing, I get the whole multiverse thing, but even Feige and the creator of 97 have said its a standalone. The fox X-men are currently Canon until it is changed by the reset, LIKE IT OR NOT. Deadpool 3 was Canon, and they made Logan, the end of the X-men timeline, Canon
97 should cross with What If for an event. That would expose them to the multiverse, but in a format that would work.
I feel like it should be part of The Marvel cinematic Multiverse but not Be affected by secret wars
DUDE Miles as The Maker would be insane
I didnt know i need this until Rob said it.
@ph03nixr0s3 IT REALLY WOULD, Fun fact. James Marsters who played Demon King Piccolo in Dragon Ball Evolution was actually cast as Zamasu in Dragon Ball Super and in games ever since. He himself was given a redemption arc in the best way possible. Granted he himself a fan of Dragon Ball, did try to fight for his character to be as faithful to the manga as possible but I digress, if a redemption can happen to James then the same could be said about Miles
Saw your comment before he mentioned it in the video. I was like "Miles Morales?"
Imagine the 2015 Fantastic Four universe had the events of Ultimate Doomsday altered with The Maker (Miles’ Reed Richards) winning the event.
@@SetoShadowVT who the hell cares.
10:26 i like how Across the a spider verse did that with Donald Glover so I think they could pull it off
they didnt put the animated characters in tho. that was just a reference to miles
@@jrubisin ATSV we get Glover in live action into the animation is what I meant. Guess it’s flipped regarding MTs comments
@@CozyKev222i agree with you. that movie did it good.
But that showed how awkward it looked. He looked super out of place next to all the animated characters.
I personally LOVE the idea of Miles Teller’s Reed Richards back as The Maker. I would also love to see Nick Cage’s Ghost Rider, Thomas Jane back as The Punisher or War Machine Punisher, 03’ Hulk back or even as version of Maestro. My last wish is obscure but it could be so cool… Toei Spider-Man (Japanese version). Him coming into battle with the other Spider-verse characters and his robot Leopardon would be EPIC.
Is it a well wish? XD
RIP Ray Stevenson, from the Punisher Warzone.
@@FireJach An Educated Wish 😂 if you catch that reference
@@gm2407 he would of been awesome to see again as well. R.I.P
YOU KNOW WHAT...
...I WANT A MULTIVERSE VARIANT OF GHOST RIDER PLAYED BY METHOD MAN...💯 💯 💯
HE....IS...JOHNNY BLAZE...💯
THAT WOULD BE SOOOOO DOPE....
Top 10 cameos Id love to see in Secret Wars. Even if they’re tiny:
1. Howard the Duck from 1986
2. David Hasselhoff as Nick Fury
3. Thomas Jane as Punisher in War Machine’s armor
4. Ben Affleck’s Daredevil
5. Matt Salinger as Old Man Captain America
6. Ioan Gruffud as Mr Fantastic
7. Nicholas Cage as Ghost Rider
8. Jared Leto as Morbius
9. Michael Fassbender as Magneto
10. Lou Ferrigno as Hulk
Honorable Mention: Phil Coulson as portrayed in Agents of Shield.
If the demon in an armor story didn’t exist, then I’d agree that this doesn’t work. If No Way Home and Loki didn’t exist either, then this REALLY wouldn’t work.
It’s multiple comics with doom and iron man being each other
So?@@itsofficiallypluto3670
Why it wouldn't work? it can just be considered as classic MCU character recycling, turning them into another character by adding layers to their previous character. Example is White Wolf and Mordok. Questionable virtue, high Ego and Intellect is already present on Tony Stark so it wouldn't be so hard to make him the Doom. Just add some trauma and send him to Kamar-taj and he's basically Dr. Doom
It’s the multiverse, it’s a comic book movie, it’ll work.
It arguably still doesn't work.
I'm sure RDJ will totally kill it. But can't help feeling like it's a bit of a disservice to the OG Victor Von Doom. He deserves a proper origin set up. But hey it's multiverse now so they can make anything they want now.
Hopefully we get the main universe Doom after they reboot the MCU
Anybody that believes RDJ’s Doom is Sacred Timeline Doom you are just choosing to be willfully ignorant 😂😂
@@kane7173 Agreed
@@kane7173They should just make and call him evil Superior Ironman Tony Stark which is what he will be. Save the real Doom after they Reboot the MCU after Secret Wars
@@tylongkicks8821 do you not know what happens after Secret Wars ? google "battle world doctor doom" thank me later.
Loki holding the multivetse is yggdrasil.
Respect.
Who is the Ratatoskr in LOKI?
@@blackdynamite_5470SQUIRREL!
As long as I get a scene with Tobey and Hugh fighting bad guys together... I can die happy.
10:51 The multiverse would be the best time to mix the animation with live action.
They already did it in Across the Spider-Verse and Doctor Strange:MOM
Tony Stark: I love you 3,000.
Doctor Doom: I hate you 3,000.
Disney: now pay me $3000
Comic collectors: I collected 3,000
If they do bring out the animated characters for big movies, either keep the scene small and keep them in their style or give them an actual real design if they have a bigger role.
Lmao that ain’t happening
@@ronthorn3 You watch Deadpool 3 yet?
@@mythic6632 I did and what didn't make sense to me was why Wade says he was digging up Wolverine from his grave in North Dakota, but in the movie Logan they said he was buried in Canada his home country. why??
@@b1bbscraz3y Would have to go back and check both. Maybe it was just an alt reality anyway.
@@mythic6632 I think they say or imply that the Logan that died was in the same universe as this Deadpool. I believe he says to the new Wolverine that his Wolverine died saving those kids. maybe it could be a 4th wall break moment, saying North Dakota as the actual place it was filmed in, if it was. that would be kind of funny
Lmbao you brought up Cool World and Roger Rabbit at the same time I had the thought haha.
The Scarlet Witch mention, did no one else see a statue of her in DP3?
Right next to the Hulk bed!
I did not
Yes at the base of the heroes😊
does that mean the TVA got her after k-lling herself
I saw it and I clapped 😃😃
Member berries 😄😄😄😄
The Biggest win for me is that the next major event in 12 years can be a true Avengers vs X Men.
Maybe I’m stupid, (my wife says I am sometimes) idk how people can’t tell the difference between RDJ iron man & RDJ Doom. Like I can tell the difference between Chris Human Torch & Chris Captain America, as an example. Now yes years passed an different studio. However if they had been same studio an not many years I still don’t see the problem. It’s a different universe 🤷♂️
Comic nerds are all real dumb
People can tell the difference. The problem is that RDJ's Tony Stark is genre defining. It's going to be very hard to not look at him and just see Tony. Chris Evans was a good Torch, but that role isn't even close to as famous.
Your wife know you very well
She knows you in and out
She's can't be wrong
Exactly, I would prefer a different actor for doom but it’s not that hard to understand and it’s got me intrigued wondering how they’ll handle it
NO CARTOON LIVE ACTION CROSSOVER .
I’ve been saying Teller as the Maker for Secret Wars would be amazing. Sadly we’d be unlikely to see the full original FF team because…..well if you know you know
Could’ve been a variant
What don’t I know??? T
Cassanra killed Johnny Storm (Chris Evans) in Deadpool and Wolverine
Straight to the point! That’s why I trust you. Keep it up Rob!🙏🏾
Deadpool and Wolverine got me excited for the MCU again.
I doubt same universes still due to age rating unless its just cameos stanlee styled
Man haven’t been excited like this in a loooooooong time
You're wrong, Marvel's contract with Sony says Marvel has control of how Spider Man is presented in film and Sony has to adhere to those set guidelines or the film rights to the character revert back to Marvel. Sony can't change anything in regards to how Peter is portrayed, his sexuality etc. They have to stay consistent to how the character has always been presented.
Sony has certain final authority over casting and the script when it comes to Spider-Man which is one of the issues behind the lack of news
of what the next Spider-Man film will be about. Marvel it seems wants the next Spidey film to be street level and feature Daredevil,The Kingpin,
and the Punisher. Sony wants to duplicate the success of No Way Home (and set up additional Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield
produced Spider-Man films)by having another crossover Spider-Man film which Marvel sees as stepping on Secret Wars.
It seems that Marvel and Sony are heading towards a compromise where elements of both storylines will be used.
I was extremely excited to see Chris Evans reprise his role as Jonny in deadpool 3
I really hope they just reboot all of this after Secret Wars cause rn Im not into RDJ coming back like this at all
I think that's the plan. Concentrate on the X-Men after the reboot
Two different styles of narcist as far I'm concerned. I wouldn't expect the corpos in Marvel to understand that when RDJ has brought in so much money.
RDJ is the MCU
RDJ is the real Marvel Jesus
Look at his stance at comic con. He knows he's a Disney God
He about to bring Disney some bread by selling an unholy amount of tickets 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
@@wilmaso Nah, he really isn't. It's just that the MCU built him and Captain America up too much, but in reality, there are many other great characters.
Rob sir, you keep uploading the best videos since the RDJ news dropped, keep it up brother
You know there's a way it could work. If instead of doom being a variant of Iron Man. This world's Iron Man is a variant of Dr doom. In the comics Tony Stark was adopted by Anthony Stark. What if on the majority of worlds It was Tom Cruise that was Iron Man. But on the prime Earth Anthony Stark instead adopted a little baby from a gypsy family in Lavaria?
That's a stupid idea
The entire "RDJ is back, same take different mask" is a dumb idea
Still gonna buy tickets tho 😃
@@blackdynamite_5470 I really do wish they hadn't brought him back but here we are.
Either way, the fact that Wolverine, Deadpool, Spider Man, Doctor Strange and the Fantastic Four will be in the finale of the Multiverse Saga is enough for me to give a shit. Also, Doom is great. I have a feeling they will rehire Jonathan Majors or recast Kang, and wrap up his storyline. They've simply referenced it too many times to just drop it like that.
I hope they bring in the darker side in as well. Werewolf by Night, Elsa, Moon Knight, Man Thing. All great and there's room to grow them (especially Moon Knight)
huh I always that was the plan for teller. he is fter all playing the ultimate reed Richards
I think Miles Teller played Reed very well
Bring in the badass character actors that did the heavy lifting in the Roger Corman F4 from the 90s. Whole lot better than what we got in the 2010s that's for damn sure.
I just want to say that this is the greatest comic book channel that exists. I've been a fan of Marvel and DC since I was a kid in the 90s, but there's so much I don't know that I've learned from this channel! I wish you continued success with Comics Explained good sir!
I’m pretty sure fantastic 4 isn’t an origin story
I hope not, let's move in past that, shall we? It's been done.
The title of the film is literally "Fantastic Four: First Steps" and it's set in some version of the 60s
I feel like he's just going to get teased.
@@elirien4264yeah but each time it wasn't what it could be especially in the 2015 one
@@ryukyle5913 It made clear it's not an Orgin story, they jumping straight into talking about the multiverse right away.
I can tell you right now, Wanda Maximoff went to that void in Deadpool and Wolverine.
There is a Statue Of Wanda I think it is in the underground base of Blade, Gambit , Electra , and X 23. I suspect that was why Dr Strange went into the Void and was killed by Cassandra Nova.
I’m just waiting for Nova to finally be introduced into the mcu!
They should bring Venom, Kraven, Morbius and Madame Web in Secret Wars just for Doctor Doom to kill them off except Venom.
I think its very telling of the drop in quality of the kang arc, that they brought back rdj like this. They needed him to save marvel with iron man 1, and now they need him as a dr doom
Valeria Richards dynamic with doom is very unique, I hope I see it
If they brought back the OG Fantastic Four, they should have the same cast except Johnny Storm who was murdered by Dr Doom in their reality.
Reedwas also iin the void until only Johnny wasleft.
If the 1st F4 will bein Avengers, it would include Johnny sincethey would come from a different pointin time
@@benjieabbas3322not gonna spoil anything but if this was the case, the death scene in Wol.vs.Deadpool would make so much sense.
@@rock6766 if Johnny would be alive, the concept of Variants would make sense
@@benjieabbas3322 Damn. I imagine the writing room for he MCU looking like a conspiracy theory wall now.
Rob - Susan Storm should be the next key character. Like Loki an amazing point of view of the plot point 🎉
John Campea Shouted you out Rob.
Link?
We need that link from shill campea
I can’t believe it you made me want to see morbius in secret wars
I just want RDJ's Iron Man
Hugh's Wolverine and Tobey's Spider-Man to interact
Rob I gotta tell ya I think you're great man. I been witcha for like a decade. On my days off or the off chance I don't have much going on I binge watch yer videos. I was born in 82 so I grew up hard in the animated series camp, X-Men, Batman, Spider-Man. I had an uncle that did some time in prison and he would send me all the comics that he already read so I went down through there in the Cris Claremont X-Men days. Seems like when it comes to all this we are gentleman of similar ilk. Thanks for all the education and re education you give me.
Would love to see some build up for a Myles teller as a Maker variant of Reed
I'd go see an Exiles movie.
Also I'd love to see a Channing Tatum Gambit on the Exiles Team.
But we also need a classic like Blink.
Your previous video has been trending like crazy, alot of people seem to grasp the idea now
Although I still believe rdj will play the original doom, and he just so happens to look like Tony stark😂
Which makes it cheap
No hate or anything but why are they being RDJ back? I'm confused
@savageshot3723 it's a soulless cash grab that's why they
@savageshot3723 they know rdj is beloved and they know people will go see it
I was hoping for a different reason 😔
I personally think a massive scene in these movies will be when Spiderman sees Doom and realises he’s RDJ and that sets up some big emotional dialogue.
Mr winkler, I have your leather jacket and water skis. Are you ready for one last jump?
Jump the shark. We need a Henry Winkler, Jason Statham crossover. Jump the Meg.
Regarding Spider-Man characters in the MCU, I'm hoping they largely keep them separate from the Spider-Verse series - for now.
What I mean by that is that Miguel may be - intentionally or unintentionally - trimming the connections in the Web of Life and Destiny to keep his branch of the multiverse separate from the rest of the MCU. The only event we've seen bridge the gap so far was No Way Home - with Miguel mentioning "Doctor Strange and that little nerd back on Earth-199999" and both crossing over with Venom's universe (which would make that part of the Spider-Verse side).
This would keep the movies largely isolated from anything Marvel decides to pull, and _might_ even preserve it across an event like Secret Wars. It's a branch that's overall less stable than the rest (-> glitching outside your own universe) - however, in turn they managed to develop stabilization tech that may stave off the effect of incursions. So it could be a branch that Loki didn't manage to grab, but isn't immediately unraveling either.
This way you can set up a more contained live action roster of Spider characters in the MCU. Possibly with variants of some Spider-Verse characters. I'd love to see the scrawny nerd variant of Miguel from the original Spider-Verse comics for example.
Then you can later bring those over into Spider-Verse later. Something along the lines of them exploring the Web of Life and Destiny from their end, and managing to open a connection across the division, raining on Miguel's parade and proving him wrong by example...
Fuck it give us worldbreaker hulk too! 🫡😄
Hulk needs a redemption. Russo dropped the ball with him in Infinity War and Endgame. The only thing I hate about those movies
LMFAOOO at this point hell yeah
We'll never see Worldbreaker Hulk. Marvel hates him
Nah at this point we are closer to maestro .
@@partyboy1076 Not even Maestro. Marvel hates Hulk
The fact that Johnny Storm FINALLY made his re-debut in the MCU in Deadpool & Wolverine makes your FF theory that much more cool imo.
In theory, the MCU has so many directions to go in and personally, I’m more than ready to see what they do with it.
14:20 I can’t be the only one who saw that red flash, I refuse to believe WANDA died because of rocks
That was such a underwhelming death. I enjoyed MOM but that ending really messed it up a bit for me. I hope they bring her back and give her arc a better end
@@shrekshrek8307 Wanda has to return in secret wars because having her death be in Dr strange movie is terrible and the way she died was so anticlimactic
@@tmac731 I hate how they did Wanda in general. She felt so 2 dimensional and just another villain
Chthon teleported her to the Flickering Realms.
I feel like bringing the animated characters to the live action universe would be very cool but also very distracting. Just walking around people would notice, but I think they could remedy this by creating tech or a spell that synced them with the live action. So you would get to see them for a short period in their animated form for the excitement, then transform them to their live action counterpart. They could even cover them with one of those shield chameleon suits or something, and as the battle goes on, it takes damage, and you can see more of their animated self. So, like in an end battle, they are animated at the end. They could really have fun with this
AoA Sabertooth and Weapon X on the Exiles plz
Always been a big fan of the various Exiles teams, they could be a lot of fun.
"First two seasons" of Loki - you mean, the entire show? 😝
Bro is living in the future where they have the 14th season of LOKI coming out
Rob, I agree... Jessica Alba was definitely my crush back then, lol.
either we get captain Britain soon or we have missed out on the multiversal marvel hero in the multiverse saga and that's just disappointing
Finally a comic book fan on the internet not immediately pessimistic about the RDJ news. The drama is ridiculous. Thanks Rob!
A cool idea with the Loki dies thing is: The new life for a singular timeline universe could just be a seed from the multiverse-tree that Loki creates as a safeguard or it "sprouts" from the tree towards its end to spawn the new universe. Thats my take with the whole tree motive the multiverse has atm.
That is the dumbest ideas ever
PASS
the red burst with the castle falls is a teleport lol
Tom is 100% getting the black suit in SM4. How? Who knows, there could be a bunch of decent explanations on how he ends up with it.
BUT, It's going to be cool to see the reunion of Tobey and Tom, and then when they suit up Tobey see's that Tom has succumb to the Black suit. Even just a look of "oh fuck" will be epic.
Nah he would ask him if he got dirt in his eye Tobey goat
Do you really think Tobey and Andrew are going to return lmao. I’m not against it or anything, I’d think it would be cool, but I don’t think there’s a high chance they’re returning
@@JorgeGomez-hx5uu I mean if Tom’s spider man has the black suit going in to avengers 5 then that would explain why tobey and Andrew would come back to kinda help take back control of Tom’s spider man I could be wrong tho 🤷🏾♂️
The old school fantastic four films with alba and evans were my some of my favorite growing up
Love you Rob. I want a ring😢😢😢
This isn’t the route they’re taking. Thank God!
They will 100% not do animated characters and live characters in the same film. Idk how u could even suggest that's something that might happen
Hahaha I guess it's not only Marvel that's throwing things against a wall to see what sticks, even the fan theories 😅
@@prospersikhwari5289 I suppose I could see them doing a quick flash of a universe where everyone in that universe is animated or something. Like how in the 2nd doctor strange they were quickly going through universes
But even that is highly unlikely
And 100% guaranteed for sure not going to be on the same screen like in rodger rabbit...
@@Wes-xk6hl I don’t see it happening
Avengers doomsday & secret wars is going to be really awesome and badass.
Been waiting for Robs reaction on RDJ.
Man, don't you miss waking up Saturday mornings, sitting in front of the TV, eating some Frosted Flakes or Cap n Crunch or Cookie Crisps watching X-Men, then Spider-Man cartoons?
Ok i have the perfect theory for RDJ as Doctor Doom (Not based off previous comics)
1. RDJ is playing a Tony Stark Variant from the new Fantastic Gour Universe. In this world, Tony from the 1st Iron Man Movie never escaped out of the cave and the original Mach 1 Iron had a misfire and accidentally disfigured Tony. Stark enterprises never progressed from that point due Tony never returned to his birthright. Instead he creates a new identity as Doom based off being an Arms Dealer. He makes a sizable fortune from his endeavors. Since stark enterprises stalls without Tony at the head, a new smartest man steps up as Reed Richard’s and they move into the tower and rename it Baxter Building and the story writes itself
You do know that Tony becomes Iron Man in the 2000s
@@ronthorn3 different universe, different time
I think the younger version of the X-Men were the team that Wolverine let get killed, they were just older. That's why they also had comic accurate suits. They were the ones who let Logan free from Weapon X, so it would make sense he returns to them later, similar to the events of X-Men. And similar to the events of X2, the X-Mansion gets raided, except in this universe, it doesn't end the same.
I think they are going at your too powerful for the MCU
Learn to articulate kid
@@blackdynamite_5470 likewise
English isn’t their first language it’s fine
@@UsaidShayan he has a series called too powerful for the MCU. You want me to put "" around it? It's very easily understood.
“ You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain” Batman
Hopefully RDJ plays two roles in Secret Wars Tony Stark and The Evil Version
I think the three groups beyond people just showing up should be X-men the what if crew and the avengers and maybe Toby Andrew etc getting their own version of spider people so spiderverse can do it’s own thing and we can get cool versions of spider people like a version of spider that fuses with the sinister six villains
Bring in the FF from the 1994 film
This man died a hero and came back a villain
The power of Disney Dollars brought him back to life
You're a natural on camera, keep shining!
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A Loki version of the Deadpool Corps. The Loki League?
Letss go I cannot wait to see what they do I'm a little worried about Doctor Doom
But if I'm being honest with you
1 thing in this world I can count on, Rob mentions Franklin and we will see the panel of Franklin saying "TO ME MY GALACTUS!"
Ever since Disney bought Marvel. I kinda lost interest in the Mcu. Still has some good things.
Disney bought Marvel in 2009 lol. It's been awhile
You lost interest after the first MCU movie??
X-Men 97 characters running around with live action MCU characters would be INSANELY dope
People saying "he can’t play two characters! What are they doing?" Seem to forget that Chris Evans played Johnny Storm and then killed it as Captain America. People can play multiple characters. It can work. Let's calm down and remember that RDJ has amazing range and the talent to pull this off.
Thats not really the problem.
Not in the same franchise, and don't try to talk about Deadpool because Evans in that was a meta joke not a major villain with a whole Avengers movie named after him.
Yeah, and Ryan Reynolds was Hannibal king and Green Lantern... Oh bad examples? At least those were different "universes".
A lot of people played 2 characters in movies outside of the MCU continuity, and for everyone who's played 2 characters in the MCU they were pretty minor roles that are hardly memorable. The closest you get to this in the MCU is Gemma Chan playing Minerva and Cersi.
I mean if you talk about the same franchise /universe, what about Gemma Chan playing both Sersi from Eternals and Doctor Minerva in Captain Marvel.
Rob what you said about the second fantastic four team I 100% agree that would be really cool if they were to add the maker in and use that particular version of read as the maker now if marble falls what you're saying they might as well start cutting you a check
Rob refusing to be miserable with the "gatekeepers" is why he's the best comics channel. Y'all continue to whine at anything marvel does while we eat over here. I have faith in RDJ
Basically “Consume product. Do not criticize. Consume product. Do not think.”
@@PopularNobody this isn't the usual crying about " woke dei" or whatever, this is a shark jump.
This x1000. I immediately wanted to see what Rob would cook up with this news. I've never seen so many people be up in arms while simultaneously say they don't care about the MCU anymore. Also I've seen so many people say this casting is desperate and was done because the MCU is "failing" which makes no sense. This Doomsday movie and RDJ as Doom is only a reality because Jonathan Majors got in trouble. if Majors stayed clean we would be talking about Avengers: Kang Dynasty right now not RDJ.
@@mr.l5783And Marvel clearly has a plan with RDJ as doom. They knew this would be the reaction, but it’s gonna make sense when we finally see it on screen
Very immature comment. People have a reason to be upset with the current state of marvel. If you don’t believe that you’re just being ignorant.
Badly want to see Richard Rider and possibly the Annihilation storyline. Dare to dream I suppose.
The end of the current MCU you're describing sounds a little too Neverending Story to me.
10:52 MCU logic already gave us this answer in Multiverse of Madness. If they make X-Men '97 canon and bring them in Secret Wars, the moment they leave their universe, they'll become live action
Hot take they ruined doom by making him Robert Downey jr doom is supposed to be his own great character this is so disperate😂
That's not a Hot Take that's what most of the Internet is saying lol
Who the hell told you that he is a variant of Tony? Joe Russo clearly said that he will play Victor Von Doom. Please stop drinking toilet cleaner
They should just make and call him evil Superior Ironman Tony Stark which is what he will be. Save the real Doom after they Reboot the MCU after Secret Wars
@@heroicboy3668 he’s played by Robert tho still just ruined a great character for shock factor
@@tylongkicks8821 right
Jessica Alba was so dedicated to her role as 'Invisible Woman' that even after the movie she was never seen again.
The Maker should be played by Cillian Murphy. If you think otherwise, you're wrong. Facts. Cope
If I saw some animated characters throwing hands alongside some of their live action counterparts I think it’d be pretty boss. We’ve seen across the spiderverse, and we watched a few cartoon dimensions dr strange crossed through with America chavez, but if there were scenes that included some cartoon variants fighting alongside their real, live action counterparts and their punches hitting as hard in real life, since they are fighting for something just as real as any other variant, I think that’d be pretty awesome. Cartoon blood and cartoon death means the same as any other blood or death too.
I will gladly take a Who Framed Roger Rabbit scene if we get Alison Sealy-Smith as Storm reminding an army of doombots about their place in the picture.
Honestly , I believe this is cash grab.. Man don't sell the spirit of MCU like Star wars
I think the Downey Dr. Doom situation is a sign that we'll probably see other people from the mcu coming back as different people.
Comic fans my parents said if I hit 25k they’d buy me a professional camera begging you guys please💪🏻
Got you bro
No.
Weird that so many people have said the exact same thing on different videos.
You know likes don't make you money right?
Nope.
@@imnobody1906 it’s a bot
I firmly believe the animated Xmen will play a pivotal role in Doomsday and Secret War. Wouldn't reboot it otherwise. They don't need to be animated, it'd be off-putting, just bring them into live action
Dead Franchise 😂It it such momumental BAD decision,theres just no hope whatsoever they could save the future of the mcu with colossal failure like the marvels and bad decision like Pedro pascal ,female silver sufer and bring this guy back for anything else than iron man.Dr doom was one the ONLY element still of interest and now its DOOM
@@CardinalJackal “Dead franchise” yeah now tell another lie.
@@joshuaa7223 you trolling or you really just a blind guy watching movies?🤔