"What do you have to show the class today, Comics Explained?" "Jonathan Hickman's Avengers and New Avengers!" "This is the third time you've shown Jonathan Hickman's Avengers and New Avengers this week"
I hate the way they treat The Living Tribunal like fodder. It would have been fine if he lost, but at least killed a few Beyonders first before getting overwhelmed by dozens or hundreds of Beyonders, but he didn’t even get an on panel shot in on them. Starbrand, Thor, and Hyperion were able to kill one. Put some respect on The Living Tribunal’s name!
Well if you don't like how they be doin *Livin Tribunal* then you definitely ain't gonna like how they been doin *Galactus* He's basically everyones punchin bag.
thor, hyperion and starbrand killed some low level beyonders. the ivory kings, that killed tlt, were basically untouchable. only molecule man's power was enough to take them out. mm power was always close to the og beyonder's, so it makes sense.
It only took 3 coming together to kill TLT but that makes sense because he represents 3 different aspects of multiversal justice. The same could be said for the 3 cosmic entities that defeated and became Logos later, but it always takes 3 immensely powerful cosmic level entities to do it. This is the part that I believe is often overlooked. There is a method to this idea.
Rob, that was a phenomenally clear and succinct summation of a massive amount of information that spanned something like 2+ years and multiple titles from Marvel. As always, so well done and thank you so much.
Bro I watched your 9 hour video about it , considering you chopped it down to about 30 was still really spot on and accurate. Kinda wish I could get those other 8 hours and 30 mins back but ya know 😂😂🤷🏾♂️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Your initial videos on Hickmans FF, Avengers and New Avengers into Secret Wars is what got me into comics. Hickmans HOX/POX came out not long after I saw those and I've been hooked since. This story truly is the best.
Of course do the video. Are you insane? This kinds of stories that are conected are THE best. And the way you explain them is better than watching an MCU movie. This video was dope. It doesent even matter if i watched other videos that you are referencing here. The story matters. Nice work Rob. With regards from Slovenia
Absolutely no matter how many times I hear u retell this story(I watched the original explained vid 2x the remaster 2x and now this once) I nvr ever get tired of the story nor how u explaine it god bless u and the rob Corp
I fell in love with this channel almost 10 years ago when he covered this story, easily my favorite comic run of all time. Jonathan Hickman went crazy with this one. Rob the way you love this story rubbed off on me too 😭
@@Gabriel-Crandall Thanks, friend. I'm just me. I stand by my words when expressed and have the intelligence to remove them when they shouldn't be seen or heard.
"Doom! all of reality is going to be destroyed! the universe needs your help!" "yeah, well, maybe you shoulda thought of that before putting my number second on your speed dial."
Doom was out of control, gains God powers and one of the first things that fool does is steal Mr. Fantastic’s family….”I hate you but I want what you got.”
doom always had a strange love/hate relationship with the richards. although in the end of this story, he admits that reed would have done a better job at recreating the multiverse, something that's a bit out of character.
With so much of this seemingly being incorporated into the un-Kanged, Robert Downey Jr portrayed MCU Doctor Doom films, I'd LOVE a deep dive speculation video on what of all of these comic arc's you think they're using for the cinematic MCU to come! It's great that they're giving Doom the massive threat level introduction that he deserves finlly.
Remember Hickman's Run on Fantastic Four/FF, where the Council of Reeds mentions using a partial Dyson Sphere ("Sol's Hammer") to take out a Beyonder? It seemed like a throwaay line, but it made you think: A Beyonder? Instead of THE Beyonder? And that's what that seed grew into: an entire race of Beyonders.
This has to be Rob's favorite storyline. He's had more videos on Hickman's Avengers run than any story and there new! It is a great story, one of the best,but do the rest of the EARTH X trilogy... once you're ok 🙏🏽
I can't say this for fact, but I'm willing to bet that Dooms response to Namor, "why didn't you come to me first?" either pays homage or is inspired by the opening scene of The Godfather.
Everyone was essentially whipping it out and measuring it against each other to see whose is bigger. And it turns out Doom went ahead and gave himself the biggest one. Classic Vic.
Dude this was my favorite story ever, i love Dr. Doom, this is the story where i was Dr. Doom is smarter than everyone, I also like what they did with Namor, it was like the villains becoming the good guys but still holding on to their villainous ways, it wasn't cheesy just awesome storytelling.
Thor and Hyperion was awesome, but dr Strange saying: “Im the sorcerer supreme young man… I do not speak letters, I speak words. And I know all of them” Was just beautiful.
My favorite tie into this event was the Deadpool one mentioning him having a kid and everyone was like "WHAT?" and his response was "and that how I want it, cause more people mention it, more the writers will put em in danger...what the incursions are still a thing, I though the avengers dealt with that" as the sky looks like it blows up as they were having a BBQ in his backyard.
Rob: still hoping you one day get around to covering Remender's Uncanny X-Force run (Wolverine, Archangel, Psylocke, Deadpool, Fantamax ...and the other madness)
I've been looking for the reading order of this for months. Finally decided to just read them in order. Literally on vol 3 right now. Had to stop the video at Thanos tho.
Hey Rob! Can you do the original rise of the midnight sons event pls? Would be extra cool too as blad number 5.. I think ties into blood hint which is going on now. Thanks 🎉
When Dr Doom becomes "God Emperor Doom" which i think is the most powerful version of Dr Doom, it literally means he's #2 most powerful, second only to the "The One Above All" which is God inside marvel. Until marvel writers create a new most powerful villain. Like it literally got so ridiculous with the list of powers that Dr Doom gained. He stole molecule man's power, stole The Beyonder's power, sacrificed his lover to demons to gain more power, and stole scarlet witch's power, ontop of all the other magic and powers he had before that and also stole.
What I need is an omnibus order. I dont know what parts exist as a collectible whole. And collecting all individual comics from this run to complete it is an insurmountable task for non-rich fans. I so far have the first f4 omnibus and hickmas avengers first omnibus but i dont know where to go to research or know what is coming out when or whether things I wanted are already released.
It would be crazy to try and get the individual issues after such a long time. I bought 'Avengers by Jonathan Hickman: The Complete Collection' and that's a multi-omnibus collection all the way from Avengers to the end of Time Runs Out.
I HATE THE WAY THEY TREAT THE LIVING TRIBUNAL LIKE FODDER. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE IF HE LOST, BUT AT LEAST KILLED A FEW BEYONDERS FIRST BEFORE GETTING OVERWHELMED BY DOZENS OR HUNDREDS OF BEYONDERS.
Marvel: It’s time to die to the new OP character.
Living Tribunal: Yes honey
Thor and Hyperion in vol 4 is my favorite moment in comics...
"Will you wait for me in Valhalla?"
"Brother, today I will race you there"
When Thor can't lift the unworthy hammer and he just laughs. Best scene ever.
Best moment ever in Marvel comics!
Yup. Same. Lois narrating Jon and Superman’s battle in DCeased is a close second.
You can really feel the mans passion about comics when he is talking, you deserve tons of respect for these type of videos.
Yea you can say it's AMAZING
"What do you have to show the class today, Comics Explained?"
"Jonathan Hickman's Avengers and New Avengers!"
"This is the third time you've shown Jonathan Hickman's Avengers and New Avengers this week"
Rob: Yes 😂
ROB: "I said what I said."
"this is the third time you've sho-"
"Marvel's destruction of their multiverse....."
classroom (groans)
Rob "Son son son !!!"
I hate the way they treat The Living Tribunal like fodder. It would have been fine if he lost, but at least killed a few Beyonders first before getting overwhelmed by dozens or hundreds of Beyonders, but he didn’t even get an on panel shot in on them. Starbrand, Thor, and Hyperion were able to kill one. Put some respect on The Living Tribunal’s name!
Well if you don't like how they be doin *Livin Tribunal* then you definitely ain't gonna like how they been doin *Galactus*
He's basically everyones punchin bag.
thor, hyperion and starbrand killed some low level beyonders. the ivory kings, that killed tlt, were basically untouchable. only molecule man's power was enough to take them out. mm power was always close to the og beyonder's, so it makes sense.
It only took 3 coming together to kill TLT but that makes sense because he represents 3 different aspects of multiversal justice. The same could be said for the 3 cosmic entities that defeated and became Logos later, but it always takes 3 immensely powerful cosmic level entities to do it. This is the part that I believe is often overlooked. There is a method to this idea.
The way they treat Tribunal is for multiversal threats what galactus is for universal threats these days. A thing to beat to establish dominance.
Yeah. Only the 2nd most powerful being in existence. Unfortunately they are beyond existence 😂
Has The Living Tribunal Done anything besides getting shattered by everyone? At this point I think Hawkeye could solo him without his bow
😂😂😂😂😂
Beyond Omega Level: Hawkeye w/o his bow
He’s done plenty, just nothing in a very long time unfortunately.
😂😂😂😂
Basicly Yamcha at this point. Hell Krilin lasts longer than the Tribunal.
cap getting a “if it bleeds, we can kill it” moment is so badass
“Jonathan Hickman’s Avengers and New Avengers, son son son”
I think robs been replaced with a LMD.... he mentioned the Inhumanes and failed to throw in a "because they suck"!
It's a nice change. Normally it feels like the unfunny kid who keeps repeating the joke until it sucks.
@@Icebolt854 i considered it like a catch phrase/running gag. Plus the LMD joke was funny.😆
That comment was way funnier than it should have been hahahahahah
Says the guy whos name is "icebolt"😂 dude obviously a blackbolt stan in disguise @Icebolt854
@Icebolt854 no it's not a nice change it's not right
I love that Doom would rather let the entire universe die than accept being anyone's second choice.
What a douchewad?
he already had a plan
True villain.
And he wanted it done HIS way anyway.
So again… TRUE villain.
I love how Rob takes any opportunity to talk about Jonathan Hickman's Avengers and New Avengers
This is one of if not the greatest Marvel run I’ve ever read.
Doctor Doom is one busy ass dude lol
Rob, that was a phenomenally clear and succinct summation of a massive amount of information that spanned something like 2+ years and multiple titles from Marvel. As always, so well done and thank you so much.
Doom: *casually* maps the multiverse
He didn’t map it. It was the Thinker who did
Marvel destroying the multiverse in Hickman avengers run was really awesome and super interesting in my opinion.
At this point, the Living Tribunal, Thanos and Galactus have turned into jokes at this point. These guys are powerhouses turned laughing stock
Indeed😅
And Thats a big Problem for me with this Comic, the 1984 had Galactus fr
Loved it! PLEASE do other story arcs and help wrap them up or fill in the pieces for us that we may have missed or misunderstood!
Bro I watched your 9 hour video about it , considering you chopped it down to about 30 was still really spot on and accurate. Kinda wish I could get those other 8 hours and 30 mins back but ya know 😂😂🤷🏾♂️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I for one would love a remaster or retelling of Hicksmans Avengers/Secret Wars 2015. Keep up the great work Rob!!!
Your initial videos on Hickmans FF, Avengers and New Avengers into Secret Wars is what got me into comics. Hickmans HOX/POX came out not long after I saw those and I've been hooked since. This story truly is the best.
Starbrand sounds like the kind of guy Saiyans would wanna train with.
8:06 So I guess Thor IS the God of Hammers lol
"I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me."
Doom so petty. So arrogant. He turns down Namor he was his runner up. Smh
Well done! The effort and passion are evident.
Of course do the video. Are you insane? This kinds of stories that are conected are THE best. And the way you explain them is better than watching an MCU movie. This video was dope. It doesent even matter if i watched other videos that you are referencing here. The story matters. Nice work Rob. With regards from Slovenia
Thor and Hyperion last stand is still one of my favorite panels to this day
Hickman is one of my favourite writers for Captain America.
Absolutely no matter how many times I hear u retell this story(I watched the original explained vid 2x the remaster 2x and now this once) I nvr ever get tired of the story nor how u explaine it god bless u and the rob Corp
Jerome Opeña's art in Infinity was amazing
This is absolutely amazing story telling!
I fell in love with this channel almost 10 years ago when he covered this story, easily my favorite comic run of all time. Jonathan Hickman went crazy with this one. Rob the way you love this story rubbed off on me too 😭
I love the editing in this video! Really good you guys!
Finally someone who doesn’t have a sus pfp
@@Gabriel-Crandall Thanks, friend. I'm just me. I stand by my words when expressed and have the intelligence to remove them when they shouldn't be seen or heard.
Engaged from beginning to end , well done mate !
Who’s all here after finding out Rdj is doom and waiting for robs video
What I love about this story is it fulfilled that prediction that the only way the world survives is when Doom rules all.
@ComicsExplainedYT-o5y You're not comics explained, you're not comics explained at all!
This was great rob. I for one would love more stuff like this.
That was a nice blast through the past Rob, really enjoyed, remember reading the Time Runs out back in 2013, beautiful experience!
"Doom! all of reality is going to be destroyed! the universe needs your help!"
"yeah, well, maybe you shoulda thought of that before putting my number second on your speed dial."
no lie I LITERALLY rewatched your secret wars playlist yesterday while working
Doom (the Embodiment) of Pettiness lol Petty incarnet lol
Damn you Rob!!! Your explanations make we want to run out and buy all these comics 😂😂😂😂😂
Also the art styles in this run were chef's kiss.
Doom was out of control, gains God powers and one of the first things that fool does is steal Mr. Fantastic’s family….”I hate you but I want what you got.”
doom always had a strange love/hate relationship with the richards. although in the end of this story, he admits that reed would have done a better job at recreating the multiverse, something that's a bit out of character.
Can we get one like this for "Thanos Wins"? That story always felt like a love letter to the 90's Thanos and I'm here for it.
Cool story bro
Yes please continue these videos, I love the old videos too but sometimes they don’t have the same punch in your voice as they do now
I am astounded how you explained this entire run in a less than 30 minute video
I want this for every big story. I'm here for the content man
Loved this style video!! Love one for Age of Apocalypse, the Age of X, Blackest Night, and Knightfall/knight's end
With so much of this seemingly being incorporated into the un-Kanged, Robert Downey Jr portrayed MCU Doctor Doom films, I'd LOVE a deep dive speculation video on what of all of these comic arc's you think they're using for the cinematic MCU to come! It's great that they're giving Doom the massive threat level introduction that he deserves finlly.
If only you knew how long and how much I’ve been enjoying your content. Ily ❤
Nicely summarize rob ❤
I'll be honest, this is the first comic book video I've watched since our dear friends passing.
Its one of the best stories ever told and it keeps unfolding
Love it when you get into this story!! Ugh, so good! Every part of it!
Remember Hickman's Run on Fantastic Four/FF, where the Council of Reeds mentions using a partial Dyson Sphere ("Sol's Hammer") to take out a Beyonder? It seemed like a throwaay line, but it made you think: A Beyonder? Instead of THE Beyonder? And that's what that seed grew into: an entire race of Beyonders.
Great video. PLEASE do the Secret wars!
This has to be Rob's favorite storyline. He's had more videos on Hickman's Avengers run than any story and there new! It is a great story, one of the best,but do the rest of the EARTH X trilogy... once you're ok 🙏🏽
I can't say this for fact, but I'm willing to bet that Dooms response to Namor, "why didn't you come to me first?" either pays homage or is inspired by the opening scene of The Godfather.
Doom's moment with Namor is AWESOME!
Definitely would be cool to see secret wars like this
SERIOUSLY WHAT AND WHO HASNT MARVEL DESTROYED?🤦🏾♂️
The Inhumans 😂😂
🙄
What they should: Spiderman writers.
D.E.I.
A lot of those are what if type situations this was main story line
Can't get enough of this story
Everyone was essentially whipping it out and measuring it against each other to see whose is bigger. And it turns out Doom went ahead and gave himself the biggest one. Classic Vic.
Good morning rob! Thanks for another great video
@ComicsExplainedYT-u7v I won?
i see a bunch of these comics explained... answers. Can this be stopped? is it a bot
Dope story, hope they get the movies right 🤞🏼
Dude this was my favorite story ever, i love Dr. Doom, this is the story where i was Dr. Doom is smarter than everyone, I also like what they did with Namor, it was like the villains becoming the good guys but still holding on to their villainous ways, it wasn't cheesy just awesome storytelling.
Amazing story video. I love it so much. enjoyed it
Now I wanna read everything dealing with this 😂
Tuned in
Thor and Hyperion was awesome, but dr Strange saying:
“Im the sorcerer supreme young man… I do not speak letters, I speak words. And I know all of them”
Was just beautiful.
By far my favorite comic book story, maybe my favorite fictional story, of all time.
I don't think they can make a better story than Avengers/New Avengers. This is a classic 💯
Is there a link to the playlist about videos for this full storyline? Plz
Yes I would love to see a video of Secret Wars done. Rob thank you for all the entertainment! Long time sub
Robbb , please say something on absolute comics . These designs are burning
My favorite tie into this event was the Deadpool one mentioning him having a kid and everyone was like "WHAT?" and his response was "and that how I want it, cause more people mention it, more the writers will put em in danger...what the incursions are still a thing, I though the avengers dealt with that" as the sky looks like it blows up as they were having a BBQ in his backyard.
KEEP FIGHTING!
KEEP FIGHTING!
KEEP FIGHTING!
I was just watching your 9 hour long video on this earlier today man. Wow
Dude youve told this story so many time!
This Cap suit is peak, this is his best design since Ultimates 2.
This is one of the last Marvel storylines that I remember being hooked on
Rob: still hoping you one day get around to covering Remender's Uncanny X-Force run (Wolverine, Archangel, Psylocke, Deadpool, Fantamax ...and the other madness)
Seeing Reed Richards lose everything during the escape....sniffles...Reed always finds a way to win though
Great video! Looking forward to more blood hunt content
I've been looking for the reading order of this for months. Finally decided to just read them in order. Literally on vol 3 right now. Had to stop the video at Thanos tho.
I would love to see a movie like this comics
I read this whole run... INFINITY. Great story. I only hated the surfer section, but overall a great story
Hey Rob! Can you do the original rise of the midnight sons event pls? Would be extra cool too as blad number 5.. I think ties into blood hint which is going on now. Thanks 🎉
This could make a killer game: handle incursions, investigate their cause and the multiverse, build up your team/planet etc.
Is that Danny phantoms mom at 4:06…?
Beyond omega level: the Comicstorian
Also the Divine Creator
When Dr Doom becomes "God Emperor Doom" which i think is the most powerful version of Dr Doom, it literally means he's #2 most powerful, second only to the "The One Above All" which is God inside marvel. Until marvel writers create a new most powerful villain. Like it literally got so ridiculous with the list of powers that Dr Doom gained. He stole molecule man's power, stole The Beyonder's power, sacrificed his lover to demons to gain more power, and stole scarlet witch's power, ontop of all the other magic and powers he had before that and also stole.
What I need is an omnibus order. I dont know what parts exist as a collectible whole. And collecting all individual comics from this run to complete it is an insurmountable task for non-rich fans.
I so far have the first f4 omnibus and hickmas avengers first omnibus but i dont know where to go to research or know what is coming out when or whether things I wanted are already released.
It would be crazy to try and get the individual issues after such a long time. I bought 'Avengers by Jonathan Hickman: The Complete Collection' and that's a multi-omnibus collection all the way from Avengers to the end of Time Runs Out.
Rob what happened to your new justice league video?
Id love to see more Hulk content from you
I HATE THE WAY THEY TREAT THE LIVING TRIBUNAL LIKE FODDER. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE IF HE LOST, BUT AT LEAST KILLED A FEW BEYONDERS FIRST BEFORE GETTING OVERWHELMED BY DOZENS OR HUNDREDS OF BEYONDERS.
How many times will Rob tell and retell this story?
They become elite mercenaries.