i dont know much about this new ultimate universe but seems its completely new and ...ultimatum never happened which probably was the wost event marvel ever had
Tony never contacted Ultimate Black Panther or Hisako in Ultimate x-men. In fact, Wakanda is the only place on Earth 6160 that was seemingly not impacted by the Maker's council.
Except Konshu and Ra are on the council and attacking Wakanda. Hard to tell if that has anything to do with the council or just vibranium or whatever they found in the last issue though.
@@dubcwherever They're attacking Wakanda but that seemed to have began after the Maker was locked in the dome. Either way I don't believe T'Challa was contacted by Tony. Unless we get to see it in a flashback or something
@@NotAGrabbaghoulAre you referring to Johnny Storm? Sony, but the Fantastic Four are presumed dead before they even existed (except for Reed Richard, of course). And the other Human Torch is Jim Hammond, the original Human Torch. If the Fantastic Four ends up existing in this universe, they will most likely be radically different in this universe...like just about everything else.
@@chaosagent2308Plus even the name Iron Lad is foreshadowing, as the 616 Iron Lad was a version of Nathaniel Richards who didn’t want to grow up to be Kang.
I love it, especially because it isn't even Victor Von Doom. It's this universe's ORIGINAL Reed Richards from before the Maker ruined everything. It's such a cool concept
I don't normally give much thought to Hank Pym in 616 outside of how that one accidental panel did him dirty (they COULD have fixed that, instead of leaning into it), but I DO love how they disassociate THIS Hank from that one in one simple, but subtle way... Seeing what our Hank was like and what happened with him, instead of being arrogant and thinking "Oh I can be better than that because I'm the ReallySmartGuy!" it terrified him because he didn't want to become THAT person. That alone sets up a good baseline for a much different Hank.
The most fascinating thing that I will say about this brand new Ultimate Universe is that they try to have it where young Tony Stark is trying to create Captain Marvel and Hawkeye on his first attempt but it ended up having disastrous results. However in his second attempt he was able to create giant Man and Wasp so I definitely like the direction that they're doing for this brand new Ultimate Universe and in some ways it kind of reminds me of how a younger version of Tony Stark was brought into the main Avengers timeline I think it was back in the 80s and that younger version of Tony had lived the life of his adult self before eventually his body caught up to him.
With the exception of our current one, I don't think there's been a century where England and France were not at war with each other. It is as they say, a complicated relationship.
And they were bitter rivals since the middle ages before that even. They've spent more time in the past 1000 years as rivals than allies and now it's just old habits.
True but that's not why we hate the French, most British people don't even know our own history very well, (I personally don't hate them to be clear), it the perception that all french people are intellectual fashionistas swanning around their apartments, naked from the waist down, sipping wine, composition poetry, having sex with our girlfriends while we go to work in the rain
I just want to say thank you to Rob for introducing me to Sal and Benny. Sorry for the loss of Benny. Your guys 2014-15 podcasts were so fun to listen to.
I really hope you reading this man my condolences on Ben passing. He was in many viewers hearts I watched him and you through tough times and it help me live all my favorite hero’s and even comics I never knew existed. It really pains me and just wish you the best man.
Just want to say how much you’re appreciated just like Ben was. You guys make reading comics fun again and it’s sad seeing someone from the community gone so soon😔
When I first heard about the "Ultimate Invasion" event, I thought they were going to literally have characters from the original Ultimate Universe invade Earth 616, due to the bunch of illustrations showing characters from that universe. But after following the entire Ultimate Invasion saga, I was excited to know more about this new alternate MARVEL universe.
I think my one hiccup with hank is his line 'im a failure at best and a menace at worst' which i feel ignores what hank was actually Like at his best. Just off the top of my head i think of Avengers Academy, where he succeeded, not attempted, succeeded in making a place for young people who had been experimented on or had unstable powers could not only get support but genuine love and support akin to a parent. Hank took these kids everyone else said were at high risk of becoming villains and treated them not as ticking time bombs but as kids who need help, which is what they were. He does this by drawing on his own past with mental illness, identity crisis's and inferiority and even his past with suicidal thoughts. He empathized with them, and by the end of it he ends up making those kids feel safe and loved in his care, the only reason his school shut down was because of the main avengers team shutting it down. While writers would later regress hanks progress i do wish his actual high points were remembered for the good they were and not paint him as this chronic 'failure at best'
I got really into comics about 10 years ago. About 5 or 6 years ago I kind of got out of it and I forgot why. When the new ultimate stuff came out I figured it would be a good time to get back into it. I remember why I got out of comics. It's painful how short each story is and how long it takes between issues. I just want more!
Not going to even lie, I’m looking towards you to hold this down for Comicstorian R.I.P to a great I really appreciate what he’s done and what you do for the comic culture. You’re appreciated sir all love LLC 😢
Rob, I just want to say you have helped me get through college for the last two to three years. You’re an amazing person and don’t know how much you mean to us 😭.
I’m sorry for your loss, Rob. I speak for those of us who are visually impaired when I say CARRY ON YOUR WORK AND HIS LEGACY. Y’all mean the world to people like me.
Hi Rob!!! Long time fan. I believe it's my first time commenting. Love your breakdowns, specially the Hickman ones. I did wanna point out that your playlist is out of order. I Was a bit confused, it took half thee list to figure it out Lol.
We have Comic Pop and a few others, but yeah its just not the same without the narrations. That was the one thing that set Benny apart from the others unfortunately.
@@Creed4222facts, used to love listening to him narrate comics stories for hours, this breaks my heart to the core. When I heard Rob give his tribute this morning, I cried.
Nope. There have been multiple times the original Ultimate Universe has appeared or directly referenced, but for some reason Marvel keeps ignoring that.
I gotta say, your narrations and explanations alone are the main reason Marvel is in my consciousness right now. 🤣🤣 I'm more hype to read comics again, to bleach my senses of live-action stuff for a bit.
One of my favourite things is that Peter Parker wholeheartedly accepted his role/destiny as Spider-Man and I love it. Shows how great a hero he is in (almost) every universe
One thought and two questions come to mind. The thought is I hope the MCU is wholly influencing this comic run because the idea of the aftermath of the secret war giving us ultimates is amazing. Show us a fully formed team with characters we know nothing about then give us individual stories. Basically what they did with The Avengers in reverse. My questions are: Will the ultimates(comic) give us Adam Basher in some capacity and if so are we getting a new origin story for Blue Marvel? That said however it goes, I'm here for it! Hers hoping he is portrayed as slightly older and bares a striking resemblance to Denzel Washington
Is the new ultimate avengers turning into All mighty avengers animated series? By how the characters work, Their character development, except the hulk of course. I would say so. How do you feel about it Rob?
@@thesilentsociety3252The Maker prevented the creation of the Fantastic Four and presumably killed the other 3 and locked up Reed for an unknown reason
During the Falklands war about 9 Frenchmen were killed in Argentina. Only technical consultants at an air base fitting missiles to fighter planes, ya know typical things allies do with allies like arm and aid enemies. Exocet missiles + Falkland's if you want to know more Citizen.
I'd read this just because Doom. Apocalypse, Dr. Doom, and Magneto are three of my favorite villains. I like when they dabble with joining the good guys
there's something you don't see every day, steve rodgers, captain america, curbing some dude to death with his shield, things like that make alternate realities so fun 21:26
Rest in peace to Comicstorian. 😞You will be missed Benny.
R.i.p Ben potter
@@Superior-Spider-Man-q5owhen did that happened?
@@humedansari7472june 8th, car accident
Yes
Indeed
So far the reboot of the ultimate universe is going in a good direction.
Agreed but let's Hope Marvel doesn't fumble the bag. Ie. X-men the Krakoan Age
@@TheShock03 yes
I feel the ultimate universe and most of dawn of DC is proof we are getting back into a groove of consistent bangers
Let's hope they don't fumble the ball at the end....again
i dont know much about this new ultimate universe but seems its completely new and ...ultimatum never happened which probably was the wost event marvel ever had
Tony never contacted Ultimate Black Panther or Hisako in Ultimate x-men. In fact, Wakanda is the only place on Earth 6160 that was seemingly not impacted by the Maker's council.
Except Konshu and Ra are on the council and attacking Wakanda. Hard to tell if that has anything to do with the council or just vibranium or whatever they found in the last issue though.
@@dubcwherever They're attacking Wakanda but that seemed to have began after the Maker was locked in the dome. Either way I don't believe T'Challa was contacted by Tony. Unless we get to see it in a flashback or something
I imagine Ra will die in the first story arc, and the council will take notice, feel threatened, and make a hasty decision.
Id rather him join later or not at all, it’d be even more interesting if Storm and him become half of the Ultimate Fantastic Four or something crazy
@@NotAGrabbaghoulAre you referring to Johnny Storm?
Sony, but the Fantastic Four are presumed dead before they even existed (except for Reed Richard, of course).
And the other Human Torch is Jim Hammond, the original Human Torch.
If the Fantastic Four ends up existing in this universe, they will most likely be radically different in this universe...like just about everything else.
Sorry for your loss Rob
Richards rocking the Doom 2099 fit.
Hickman, please, do not leave in the middle of this one, too. Please.
Depends on if editorial fucks him every step of the way
Hickman didn't do this one. Deniz Camp and Juan Frigeri did this one.
@@jamesmenear6686 this universe is Hickman's offspring tho, correct?!? Thts wht the guy w/the mustache was implying
@@jamesmenear6686Hickman kinda overseers this, considering he setup the maker returning in 6 months
SIX MONTHS!?!?
WHERE WAS RIOT
I didnt notice this before, but I like how Iron Lad's helmet has the same lines that Kang's helmet has
Its because in Ultimate Invasion, Kang is implied to be a future version of Tony Stark
@@chaosagent2308Plus even the name Iron Lad is foreshadowing, as the 616 Iron Lad was a version of Nathaniel Richards who didn’t want to grow up to be Kang.
👍
Hang tight Rob, my condolences ❤
Doctor doom being a avenger is absolutely insane
Its reed Richard.
This the type of shit we needed
4real?@@brianokuliczki7879
I love it. This is awesome
I love it, especially because it isn't even Victor Von Doom. It's this universe's ORIGINAL Reed Richards from before the Maker ruined everything. It's such a cool concept
I don't normally give much thought to Hank Pym in 616 outside of how that one accidental panel did him dirty (they COULD have fixed that, instead of leaning into it), but I DO love how they disassociate THIS Hank from that one in one simple, but subtle way... Seeing what our Hank was like and what happened with him, instead of being arrogant and thinking "Oh I can be better than that because I'm the ReallySmartGuy!" it terrified him because he didn't want to become THAT person.
That alone sets up a good baseline for a much different Hank.
The most fascinating thing that I will say about this brand new Ultimate Universe is that they try to have it where young Tony Stark is trying to create Captain Marvel and Hawkeye on his first attempt but it ended up having disastrous results.
However in his second attempt he was able to create giant Man and Wasp so I definitely like the direction that they're doing for this brand new Ultimate Universe and in some ways it kind of reminds me of how a younger version of Tony Stark was brought into the main Avengers timeline I think it was back in the 80s and that younger version of Tony had lived the life of his adult self before eventually his body caught up to him.
I think captain marvel is still alive? I could be wrong but honestly having giant man and wasp back on the team is dope
@@ohhmyjesusCaptain Marvel died a violent and explosive death at the hand of her own powers being uncontrollable
@@NotAGrabbaghouldamn they killed of Carol lmao
@@BrandonweifuW
19:25 - I mean... Britain and France were at war for literally 116 years.
With the exception of our current one, I don't think there's been a century where England and France were not at war with each other. It is as they say, a complicated relationship.
They also, almost always, choose the wrong side of every major war. Even in recent history
And they were bitter rivals since the middle ages before that even. They've spent more time in the past 1000 years as rivals than allies and now it's just old habits.
True but that's not why we hate the French, most British people don't even know our own history very well, (I personally don't hate them to be clear), it the perception that all french people are intellectual fashionistas swanning around their apartments, naked from the waist down, sipping wine, composition poetry, having sex with our girlfriends while we go to work in the rain
Rip to the bro comicstorian 1 of my 2 favorite comic youtubers passed what an unfortunate time for comic lover's
I just want to say thank you to Rob for introducing me to Sal and Benny.
Sorry for the loss of Benny.
Your guys 2014-15 podcasts were so fun to listen to.
Hey, Rob. I just heard the news. How're you holding up?
Condolences bruh always gonna cherish those weekly pull days
I really hope you reading this man my condolences on Ben passing. He was in many viewers hearts I watched him and you through tough times and it help me live all my favorite hero’s and even comics I never knew existed. It really pains me and just wish you the best man.
Just want to say how much you’re appreciated just like Ben was. You guys make reading comics fun again and it’s sad seeing someone from the community gone so soon😔
RIP THANK YOU BEN (COMICSTORIAN)
RIP BEN literally top 3 fav comic book explainers 1st comics explained 3rd dope spills
When I first heard about the "Ultimate Invasion" event, I thought they were going to literally have characters from the original Ultimate Universe invade Earth 616, due to the bunch of illustrations showing characters from that universe. But after following the entire Ultimate Invasion saga, I was excited to know more about this new alternate MARVEL universe.
Heart broken. Rest easy Benny. Love you Rob
The first issue got me hooked. Especially when Cap was talking to Hank. I felt it.
Did anyone else notice Hank dragging what looks like an Ultron vacuum? Lool
R.i.p. Benny! I know we'll miss you!
RIP comicstorian a great man, I hope you will be able to carry on the torch for him :(
Dr Doom brainstorming on a chalk board is the funniest thing to see
you have to remember that this is how the writers think smart people think.
@@apolloodoutrinador I call it the "Good Will Hunting Effect"
@@apolloodoutrinadorvisualizing a problem helps in solving it
Also they need to be able to demonstrate their thinking to others down the line when they start doing more rapid recruitment
@@alessandronapolitano8620 "FOOL, YOU DARE TAKE DR.DOOM FOR A CHILD THAT NEEDS PICTURES?"
- Doctor Doom
Who remembers the Ultimate Avengers animated movies from the 2000’s?
Those movies were what introduced me to the Ultimate Marvel Universe
I wish they made more
Those were great
Those movies ruined the MCU for me. They wrre sooo good
@@irondarius im pretty sure, next avengers is after ultimate avengers
We love you rob hang in there brother
Hang in there rob 🙏🏽 we love you❤
RIP ben (comicstorian)
REST IN PEACE BENNY
Rob we are here for you and we love ya hang in there.
Hey Rob, sorry for your loss. We all love and support you. Take as much time off as you need.
I think my one hiccup with hank is his line 'im a failure at best and a menace at worst' which i feel ignores what hank was actually Like at his best.
Just off the top of my head i think of Avengers Academy, where he succeeded, not attempted, succeeded in making a place for young people who had been experimented on or had unstable powers could not only get support but genuine love and support akin to a parent. Hank took these kids everyone else said were at high risk of becoming villains and treated them not as ticking time bombs but as kids who need help, which is what they were.
He does this by drawing on his own past with mental illness, identity crisis's and inferiority and even his past with suicidal thoughts. He empathized with them, and by the end of it he ends up making those kids feel safe and loved in his care, the only reason his school shut down was because of the main avengers team shutting it down.
While writers would later regress hanks progress i do wish his actual high points were remembered for the good they were and not paint him as this chronic 'failure at best'
Im so sorry for your loss.
How close were they?
@@sepulcher8263Rob said in his tribute that they were closer than brothers.
RIP Ben 🪦
I got really into comics about 10 years ago. About 5 or 6 years ago I kind of got out of it and I forgot why. When the new ultimate stuff came out I figured it would be a good time to get back into it. I remember why I got out of comics. It's painful how short each story is and how long it takes between issues. I just want more!
Sorry for your loss man, we lost a king
I love how different this universe is. It shakes things up enough to make it interesting
Not going to even lie, I’m looking towards you to hold this down for Comicstorian R.I.P to a great I really appreciate what he’s done and what you do for the comic culture. You’re appreciated sir all love LLC 😢
Just finished reading this! Great start for a reboot of the ultimate universe!
Bro, your videos are gold.
Rip, Ben..
Rest in peace Ben thanks for these amazing videos
Hope you’re doing good Rob, very sorry for your loss (Rest in Peace Comicstorian)
really like this story, love Dr.Doom rolling up with the dual blasters
Rob, I just want to say you have helped me get through college for the last two to three years. You’re an amazing person and don’t know how much you mean to us 😭.
Second this. I studied to way to many of this man’s videos
Love ur stuff rob keeps me sane atbwork
Can’t believe comicstorian is dead 😢
Small correction: the reason cap is in present is because of Tony and Doom, if the Maker had found cap, he most likely would have killed him
I’m sorry for your loss, Rob.
I speak for those of us who are visually impaired when I say CARRY ON YOUR WORK AND HIS LEGACY. Y’all mean the world to people like me.
This version of ultimate avengers is the mcu level of quality .
Shout from panama!! 🇵🇦🇵🇦
Just checking in Bro
I guess this captain britian is actually Captain breton. Hes from lil britian. Brittany France
Ultron Vacuum
Keep your head up rob we love you and know you can get through this
Hi Rob!!! Long time fan. I believe it's my first time commenting. Love your breakdowns, specially the Hickman ones. I did wanna point out that your playlist is out of order. I Was a bit confused, it took half thee list to figure it out Lol.
Now that Comicstorian is gone you're all we have left bro. 😢
We have Comic Pop and a few others, but yeah its just not the same without the narrations. That was the one thing that set Benny apart from the others unfortunately.
@@Creed4222facts, used to love listening to him narrate comics stories for hours, this breaks my heart to the core. When I heard Rob give his tribute this morning, I cried.
Maker actually didn’t mess with Cap at all. He went looking for him, but was unable to find him, if memory serves.
Didn’t the ultimate universe come back in the end of spidermen? Is this universe related to that story
that universe ended up getting destroyed again, this universe is NOT related to that story. It starts with Ultimate Invasion
Nope. There have been multiple times the original Ultimate Universe has appeared or directly referenced, but for some reason Marvel keeps ignoring that.
No new universe new characters. It gives the writers more space and its better for people who don't want to read 700 issues of back story.
Happy Thursday everyone!
I remember reading ultimate iron man and loving the design so this is nostalgic
I gotta say, your narrations and explanations alone are the main reason Marvel is in my consciousness right now. 🤣🤣
I'm more hype to read comics again, to bleach my senses of live-action stuff for a bit.
One of my favourite things is that Peter Parker wholeheartedly accepted his role/destiny as Spider-Man and I love it. Shows how great a hero he is in (almost) every universe
Stopping kids from saying first.
First
First
First is the worst, 2nd is the best.
First 😂
🙏🏾💒 doing the lord's work
Rest easy, Benny aka Comicstorian 😢
Hickman strikes again! Love his work.
Dr. Victor Von Doom
Leader, Villain, Hero, Genius, Master of Magic, and now…
*AVENGER*
It's Reed Richards
Wait WHAT?!?!
@snarffles5687
....Read Ultimate Invasion, bro thats Reed who got enslaved by the Maker and forced to wear Doom's mask
Thumbnail line up is so Dopeeeee
"Okay. I admit it...I have not yet conquered time." very big hint that he may be Kang
Sorry for y9ur loss, we miss u rob
I had to pause to go see that Captain America awakening again. So good...
Oh and yeah!
Yeah!
Rip Benny
really good, most the Ultimates stuff has been great, hope it sells well
Can you explain the sleepwalker?
Here because of the passing of Benny. 😢
Yeah I'm excited to see what they are doing with the ultimate universe
One thought and two questions come to mind. The thought is I hope the MCU is wholly influencing this comic run because the idea of the aftermath of the secret war giving us ultimates is amazing. Show us a fully formed team with characters we know nothing about then give us individual stories. Basically what they did with The Avengers in reverse. My questions are: Will the ultimates(comic) give us Adam Basher in some capacity and if so are we getting a new origin story for Blue Marvel? That said however it goes, I'm here for it! Hers hoping he is portrayed as slightly older and bares a striking resemblance to Denzel Washington
Regarding "assumptions", I have it on good authority that, "Assumptions kill."
Love ya bro
Is the new ultimate avengers turning into All mighty avengers animated series? By how the characters work, Their character development, except the hulk of course. I would say so. How do you feel about it Rob?
BOI I love Steve " let's do time travel the old fashion way, 1 second at a time" that's a good line
RIP to Comicstorian. Praying for ya Rob I know yall were friends
I just picked up this issue, and Blood Hunters #2, and man, these are some awesome reads we're getting lately. Keep up the awesome work!
Sorry for your loss 😭😭 Benny meant the most to all of us 🥲
I love this Ultimate universe's Kang and Iron Lad armor.
Ultimates are back and better then ever!!! Yeahhh!!
Feels like the justice league book from New 52: big picture, epic, and high-stakes baddies. I'm game
Dr doom is Reed Richards and has not gone by the name Dr. Doom yet in this Universe.
Any reason why Reed is Dr Doom in this universe?
he goes by “Doom” and he has a doctorates, he’ll be called dr. doom eventually
@@thesilentsociety3252The Maker prevented the creation of the Fantastic Four and presumably killed the other 3 and locked up Reed for an unknown reason
Yes he has, he told Tony to call him doom in this issue
We can’t lose you either 🫶🏾🙏🏾
Great storytelling.
Honestly, I really got EMH vibes from Janet which I absolutely love so I'm here for it.
During the Falklands war about 9 Frenchmen were killed in Argentina. Only technical consultants at an air base fitting missiles to fighter planes, ya know typical things allies do with allies like arm and aid enemies. Exocet missiles + Falkland's if you want to know more Citizen.
I'd read this just because Doom. Apocalypse, Dr. Doom, and Magneto are three of my favorite villains. I like when they dabble with joining the good guys
I...i really like this. I like an Ultimates comic...
there's something you don't see every day, steve rodgers, captain america, curbing some dude to death with his shield, things like that make alternate realities so fun 21:26
Damn dude there never be another like you I will miss you ❤
The ultimate universe is slowly becoming my favorite.