Fun fact: Kyogre outclasses rayquaza in almost every single way - - 150 bp stab + rain water spout with 180 spatk > 150 bp stab dragon energy stab with 180 spatk - better coverage in the form of hurricane and thunder (can't miss) and ice beam - passive healing with rain dish - better bulk (100/90/160 > 105/100/100) (slightly worse on the physical side but far better on the special side) - better set up as tail glow > swords dance (mega ray gets no special setup) - better defensive typing with only 2 weaknesses mega ray only has better speed, which can be easily managed by nature/vitamins, and unnerve, which is kinda overrated tbh since your one shotting almost everything anyway, and otherwise just clicking salt cure on eternatus
@Phoenixsturm1 funfact: kings rock + multi lens STAB water spout in the rain with 10 mystic waters and calciums with soul dews and modest + blisset has base 75 attack. The only way this doesn't one shot is if you're very far in at which point you're salt curing anyways
Tapu Lele was the reason I got my first classic win. Nasty plot was all I needed. Also, Cosmog gets precipice blades as an egg move to hit fire types for Solgaleo. And it also has Stored Power at level one, which can be good because it also gets Cosmic Power pretty sure which can strengthen stored power.
Genesect has been my carry in endless, it's set is bug bite (with 3x multi lens and 5x kings rock) you eat 4 enemy berries a turn and more likely than not flinch, tachyon cutter which hits 8 times flinching is guaranteed, mega drain and techno blast. I have actually disabled his passive as bug steel is such a great typing
I would say Manaphy is a pretty amazing carry. It got kind of nerfed on classic mode with removal of simple but arguably buffed for endless. It is also quad effective against rayquaza and super effective against eternatus with freeze dry, along with getting dazzling gleam and a few other fairy moves. Bouncy bubble also allows you to save up a ton of money.
The reason shaymin has wind rider is less for the atk boost and more because grass has so many weaknesses and it gives you a free switch into flying moves wouldn’t recommend for endless it’s not bad for classic.
Although one might think wind moves are flying type moves, it is not. While most wind moves are indeed flying type, there are quite a few wind moves of other types. All the "Storm" moves from the genies, Heat Wave, Hurricane, Blizzard, Fairy Wind, Petal Blizzard.... All of these are wind moves and would activate its ability. It actually seems much more useful than what y'all are giving it credit for!
With dialga, it might be better to have the normal form for metal burst because it's based off hp so more damage taken = more damage dealt. Lower defenses allow for more damage but lower hp is less possible damage.
Every time I think about this game I think of how cool and different of a game mode it would be on Pokémon showdown though last respects supreme overload sword of ruin could be a little overwhelming
I am stunned people actually dont know what Missingno is. Imagine being in the mid 90s and figuring that shi out in a random country across the world, what kinda king ud be :P it was a way to dupe pokemon and items in gen 1 games back in the day :P
Tapus get nature madness, making them a great fusion just to pass the move to deal with bosses. also tapu fini gets soak, so for endless it is crazy good with terain+soak+nature madness
Marshadow being A-Tier is criminal. You can get perfect coverage with fighting, ghost, ice and fire punches. there is not a single pokemon in the pokedex that you can not hit at least neutral. Not one!
@@dragonslav3r good coverage shouldn't automatically place you high. Marshadow does have a decent 120 base atk, but its only way of increasing attack is a move that's 100 bp. Compare that to Zapdos who can increase its sp atk with a 205 bp move, not to mention italso gets amazing coverage moves. I would maybe consider Marshadow S tier because of Spectral Thief, but it'd be at the very bottom.
@dragonslaverlp and having storm throw is INSANE , always being a critical hit and getting boosted by technician wipes almost ANYTHING in one hit. marshadow was the first mythical i hatched, coincidentally also my favourite pokemon which is kinda sweet but genuinely it has move coverage for everything. base speed of 125 is absolutely filthy as well its so overpowered, S tier at LEAST.
Regidrago was my first epic egg hatch and he carried me through classic. One shotted almost everything with dragon energy and killed eternatus in 3 hits
Dude tailglow manaphy simple is broken you can get plus six in one turn then you give it the heart swap that you thought was bad and give it to your own Pokémon in a double battle giving any special attacker plus 6
@@elephant1210 Tail Glow into Heart swap is two whole turns, plus it's only for double battles so it's very niche. I left it top of S because it's a Pokémon that relies on a non-attacking status move. SS-SSS is for strong Beast Boost Pokémon or Multi-Lens + Contrary sets.
Beat my first classic run with a magical torque tapu koko who destroyed everything along the way, did scum 195 and eternatus with leech seed curse + 2 bulky mons with dot moves lol, Again tapu koko was better as i have no candies for my other legendaries like zygarde and zamazenta
Base 173 SpA + Transistor + Thunderclap + Beast Boost; Tail Glow if you find a turn to use it; Giga Drain for ground coverage; Flamethrower for grass coverage
Why is reshiram so low, feel like that chinpokomon is epic for carrying in endless mode. Eruption is cracked and if you grab a multi lens you're just KOing all the bosses n dat in 1 move, fregging epic gamer time.
Im guessing its based of classic maybe? As zacian isnt very good for endless compared to latias and reshiram due to latias having soul heart and dragon energy and reshi having eruption+dragon energy with orch pulse
Yeah I don't get it either reshi name is mentioned all the time like zacien and megaRay as an endless carry. Turboblaze is underwhelming but subtly good as it goes through sturdy, multscale, but can be fused to something better in endless once it's no longer useful. Maybe classic weight or just doesn't use lures to double the shiny odds in endless?
Come on putting a 20% freeze fishier in the same category as Zapdos that has a perfect moveset synergy and self buffing w electro shot is just dumb. You clearly never did a zapdos run.
Not as special as you think because of multi-lens + kings rock + flinch move (assuming we're talking endless mode). Also if you're playing classic mode, 100 base speed can't outspeed Rayquaza or Eternatus.
@@HoshinJosh in endless there still a chance of not flinching target, little dude makes chances close to 100%. But yeah, in classic Jirachi is pretty mid
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Bro did all of that editing to cut it from a 6 hour VOD to a 3 hour VOD 💀
True
@@richardzhou9595 And it was WORTH IT
bro skipped brunch 😔😔😔😔
@@Tyler-nl5gdnot the brunch😞😢😭
This was 6hrs vod? Wow great job 👏 3hrs isn’t too excessive considering the fact there’s like what 200 maybe more pocket there 👺
3 Hour video? Enough time for me to eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner while I watch.
Fun fact: Kyogre outclasses rayquaza in almost every single way -
- 150 bp stab + rain water spout with 180 spatk > 150 bp stab dragon energy stab with 180 spatk
- better coverage in the form of hurricane and thunder (can't miss) and ice beam
- passive healing with rain dish
- better bulk (100/90/160 > 105/100/100) (slightly worse on the physical side but far better on the special side)
- better set up as tail glow > swords dance (mega ray gets no special setup)
- better defensive typing with only 2 weaknesses
mega ray only has better speed, which can be easily managed by nature/vitamins, and unnerve, which is kinda overrated tbh since your one shotting almost everything anyway, and otherwise just clicking salt cure on eternatus
@Phoenixsturm1 funfact: kings rock + multi lens STAB water spout in the rain with 10 mystic waters and calciums with soul dews and modest + blisset has base 75 attack. The only way this doesn't one shot is if you're very far in at which point you're salt curing anyways
Agreed. I dna spliced primal kyogre and chandelure. Heavy rain, soul heart, water spout, and insane stats
However, no Unnerve.
@@jonathanflanagan1504 Unnerve is overrated
And now that absolute beast got Mold Breaker. Now only slower desolate land can beat P-Kyogre
Not mentioning the multi lens + power up punch combo for endless is insane
multi lens+wide lens on marshasow w triple axel will sweep endless for ever and ever amen
my glorious scream tail being ranked at such a high place is so nice
@@peanutspeanutsa i was very suprised
Same here but with Calyrex Shadow Rider
Tapu Lele was the reason I got my first classic win.
Nasty plot was all I needed.
Also, Cosmog gets precipice blades as an egg move to hit fire types for Solgaleo. And it also has Stored Power at level one, which can be good because it also gets Cosmic Power pretty sure which can strengthen stored power.
Love the dedication Josh! Thats a nice little list you got over there :D
@@Knetterkoekje appreciate you ❤️👍
Genesect has been my carry in endless, it's set is bug bite (with 3x multi lens and 5x kings rock) you eat 4 enemy berries a turn and more likely than not flinch, tachyon cutter which hits 8 times flinching is guaranteed, mega drain and techno blast. I have actually disabled his passive as bug steel is such a great typing
@@JamyJamal sounds amazing 🫢 bug bite + multi lens is amazing
"flinching is guaranteed" well technically....
Great job on the tier list!
W list, i will now subscribe and watch your other stuff
I like Lugia multiscale + oblivion wing make it super tanky. Plus Lugia is such a cool pokemon
I would say Manaphy is a pretty amazing carry. It got kind of nerfed on classic mode with removal of simple but arguably buffed for endless. It is also quad effective against rayquaza and super effective against eternatus with freeze dry, along with getting dazzling gleam and a few other fairy moves. Bouncy bubble also allows you to save up a ton of money.
We need a tier list for the non legendarys, not all just the good ones atleast
The reason shaymin has wind rider is less for the atk boost and more because grass has so many weaknesses and it gives you a free switch into flying moves wouldn’t recommend for endless it’s not bad for classic.
Although one might think wind moves are flying type moves, it is not. While most wind moves are indeed flying type, there are quite a few wind moves of other types. All the "Storm" moves from the genies, Heat Wave, Hurricane, Blizzard, Fairy Wind, Petal Blizzard.... All of these are wind moves and would activate its ability. It actually seems much more useful than what y'all are giving it credit for!
With dialga, it might be better to have the normal form for metal burst because it's based off hp so more damage taken = more damage dealt. Lower defenses allow for more damage but lower hp is less possible damage.
👉 Good point
My GLORIOUS queen scream tail
Every time I think about this game I think of how cool and different of a game mode it would be on Pokémon showdown though last respects supreme overload sword of ruin could be a little overwhelming
Yeah that's a little BROKEN
you forgot that meloetta orange hair need to use relic song, since its base form is the green hair
Rightttt, I forgot about that
I am stunned people actually dont know what Missingno is. Imagine being in the mid 90s and figuring that shi out in a random country across the world, what kinda king ud be :P it was a way to dupe pokemon and items in gen 1 games back in the day :P
And grab mew or the other starters.
Xerneas much higher with misty terrain as it prevents you from status in endless
W video, love the streams
Sandsear storm is also a sure hit in rain for Zapdos
Tapus get nature madness, making them a great fusion just to pass the move to deal with bosses. also tapu fini gets soak, so for endless it is crazy good with terain+soak+nature madness
Marshadow being A-Tier is criminal. You can get perfect coverage with fighting, ghost, ice and fire punches. there is not a single pokemon in the pokedex that you can not hit at least neutral. Not one!
@@dragonslav3r good coverage shouldn't automatically place you high. Marshadow does have a decent 120 base atk, but its only way of increasing attack is a move that's 100 bp. Compare that to Zapdos who can increase its sp atk with a 205 bp move, not to mention italso gets amazing coverage moves. I would maybe consider Marshadow S tier because of Spectral Thief, but it'd be at the very bottom.
@dragonslaverlp and having storm throw is INSANE , always being a critical hit and getting boosted by technician wipes almost ANYTHING in one hit. marshadow was the first mythical i hatched, coincidentally also my favourite pokemon which is kinda sweet but genuinely it has move coverage for everything. base speed of 125 is absolutely filthy as well its so overpowered, S tier at LEAST.
Regidrago was my first epic egg hatch and he carried me through classic. One shotted almost everything with dragon energy and killed eternatus in 3 hits
Idk if you’ve done this yet, but if you got the time could you rank the best mons for classic mode for beginners, I’ve been stuck for so damn long 😭
I have a classic video with some good recommendations, a tier list for EVERY mon I might do in the future maybe lmao
@@HoshinJosh thank you you’ve given me so many good strategies 🙏
Tapu Bulu easily clears classic. I've been running him to carry a few teams a day.
Flutermane does get calm mind while not as good as nasty plot its still something
Mega tier list when?
What website did you use to look at the stats egg moves and so
@@KonstantinMJ i'l link it rn, thank you for reminding me
Dude tailglow manaphy simple is broken you can get plus six in one turn then you give it the heart swap that you thought was bad and give it to your own Pokémon in a double battle giving any special attacker plus 6
@@elephant1210 Tail Glow into Heart swap is two whole turns, plus it's only for double battles so it's very niche. I left it top of S because it's a Pokémon that relies on a non-attacking status move. SS-SSS is for strong Beast Boost Pokémon or Multi-Lens + Contrary sets.
what website did you use to check the pokemon?
Link is in the description next to "PokéRogue Pokédex" !
Slept on meleotta she’s a monster can solo any classic run
bro doesnt know what missingno is
The google drive doesn't work anymore ;-;
I accidentally deleted the file! Fortunately, the edited video for the updated tier list is coming soon, so look out for that 👀
can we get a shorter version with only the sss name ?
I just uploaded an even longer tier list with every Pokemon 😅
@ but what the best one in your opinion? Like top 3
@@vincentverville5534 in my new tier list video I put Eternatus, Calyrex Shadow, and Lugia at the top
@ k thx now I Know wich to get I already got a shiny eternus so shouldnt ne hard
do you have screenshoot? The name of the site that you see the info?
@@claudioalferes8932 the answers to both of those questions are in the description!
Chein-pao has bitter blade for steel types which its weak too
BRO FINALLY UPLOADED WHERE ARE YOU STREAMS
Will be back soon 😅 editing this video killed me
misty terrain doesn't actually boost fairy attacks
Tbh I wish regice was better. Ofc ice sucks but I feel like you could use its High sp def as an advantage
Beat my first classic run with a magical torque tapu koko who destroyed everything along the way, did scum 195 and eternatus with leech seed curse + 2 bulky mons with dot moves lol,
Again tapu koko was better as i have no candies for my other legendaries like zygarde and zamazenta
How is Xurkitree good? pls explain.
Base 173 SpA + Transistor + Thunderclap + Beast Boost; Tail Glow if you find a turn to use it; Giga Drain for ground coverage; Flamethrower for grass coverage
how is he NOT good is the question lol
Can post the whole picture in video description?
@@mangkornduragon good idea, I gotchu
Why is reshiram so low, feel like that chinpokomon is epic for carrying in endless mode. Eruption is cracked and if you grab a multi lens you're just KOing all the bosses n dat in 1 move, fregging epic gamer time.
Im guessing its based of classic maybe? As zacian isnt very good for endless compared to latias and reshiram due to latias having soul heart and dragon energy and reshi having eruption+dragon energy with orch pulse
Yeah I don't get it either reshi name is mentioned all the time like zacien and megaRay as an endless carry. Turboblaze is underwhelming but subtly good as it goes through sturdy, multscale, but can be fused to something better in endless once it's no longer useful. Maybe classic weight or just doesn't use lures to double the shiny odds in endless?
Come on putting a 20% freeze fishier in the same category as Zapdos that has a perfect moveset synergy and self buffing w electro shot is just dumb. You clearly never did a zapdos run.
@@olivergro7105 The final list had Zapdos at mid-bottom S-tier :)
lol hoped it was pokemon timestamps not gen xdd
@@luisagra1829 I'll be working to get those out soon!
Well that's very kind of u I rly liked Ur video, that site also helps quite a lot!
But frfr its fine this is alright to navigate if its too much work idk if worth @@HoshinJosh
why jirachi so low? he can basicaly never let enemy get out of flinch if you outspeed. cracked as hell
Not as special as you think because of multi-lens + kings rock + flinch move (assuming we're talking endless mode). Also if you're playing classic mode, 100 base speed can't outspeed Rayquaza or Eternatus.
@@HoshinJosh in endless there still a chance of not flinching target, little dude makes chances close to 100%. But yeah, in classic Jirachi is pretty mid
didnt show the list at the end
My man doesn’t know about missingNO lol
Miraidon is definitely sss teir its so so much better then hoopa and koraidon
Oh roaring moon where do I start
Underated/ useful pokemon?
@@luisagra1829 from what I gathered: Xurkitree, Thundurus-Therian, Naganadel, Uxie, Scream Tail are the most notable ones.
is this a re-upload?
It's an edited re-upload of a live stream from a week ago!
@@HoshinJosh ahh gotchu it was the stream that i watched.
its 2 Am bro
2:08:35
Mew has protean curse
@@Es-bk4rz ah that maybe moves it up to low A then
Bro unironically hasn't heard of missingno, fake pokemon fan
I was here
Same!
Ngl I could probably edit this down a lot more.
damn youre jacked