@@monk9985 Only times Saitama ever even has talk no jutsu is either when it's for helping out those in need of it or about being an actual mentor to some of the heroes, Difference between his and Naruto's talk no jutsu is that Naruto's is for fighting against the principles of the villains while Saitama's is for empowering what's right to the heroes
Fun fact: Saitama states that his killer moves (Serious series) are just basic attacks. He doesn't actually use any more strength than normal. He says this to King.
Now imagine this fight but with King instead of Saitama. With King's borderline impossible luck, I absolutely see his loud heartbeat *ACCIDENTALLY* producing the exact frequency needed to hurt Omni-man's ears (since the vestibular system is one of the weaknesses viltrumites have) which would make him think something like "Holy crap, this guy is so strong that his sheer aura is able to immediately find my weakness and attack it. He will destroy me if he actually decides to attack me physically. I need to get out of here and report back so we can try and find a way to defeat this absolute monster of a human".
You always have to remember that the only reason why Saitama "cannot" do something is simply because he has no need or someone has yet to come to allow him to perform such feats.
Not really. Saitama needed to grow in power exponentially in order to combat Garou who was copying Saitama’s previous power And Saitama doesn’t have any super powers. He just has superhuman stats and some hax/ability resistances. He only got his first super power via OPM’s idea of martial arts, which is the time travel, though he forgot how to do it
@@jocoolshow seems like someone doesn't read the manga or just has a problem with comprehension. It's clearly stated that Saitama has never felt the need to get stronger as his base form was usually enough to deal with opponents. But the appearance of garou, someone who go initial go tick for tack with Saitama led to his growth.
@@nmichael2826 his body can access essentially infinite strength if he needs to but he doesn’t need to. Garou came in with a 5 Saitama jumped to 5.5, so Garou went to 7 Saitama went to 9. And onwards regardless of this his durability is already MAXED so I’m not sure what anyone could do when we still take into account he hasn’t been harmed in combat whatsoever. I wonder if people forget that he took a gamma ray burst to the face and just landed back on the planet without a problem. That’s the largest know explosion in the universe currently after the Big Bang. Omni man would have died blowing up a planet with 3 people if the core of said planet was stable. He gets one tapped by Saitama when he fought Boros he negated a planet busting attack with the shockwave of his punch alone and spilt the clouds above them so far it’s clearly visible from space he made sure his energy was never directed at the planet. How is this even a fight lol
Saitama: “Woah, hey wait dude, we need to move our fight, we’re right in a subway track,” Omniman: “I know. Time to teach y-“ Saitama (grabbing Omniman and forcibly moving him): “I said we need to move our fight”
I remember back in the day when people used the argument that Saitama can't breath in space to argue against him, thank god for that Cosmic Fear Garou fight. That fight showcased a fraction of his limitless potential.
What many people don’t get is that Garou was matching Saitama blow for blow in terms of power, it’s just that he was matching the Saitama of a half second ago. Saitama was growing so quickly that by the time each blow connected he was already impervious to it. Anyone who actually presses him is going to be lapped in a heartbeat.
@@KaseyC. not really, saitama's durability is like maxed out. Never once in the Garou fight was he hurt in any way. I mean maybe you can one shot him but I don't find that likely.
@@Golden_Projects yeah but it was also directly explained that Garou was, like, miles below Saitama throughout that entire fight because Saitama just continued to outgrow him. Basically, Garou was never once stronger than Saitama, and was never once even on Saitama's level if we're being honest.
@@KaseyC. Its never been done so assumed impossible , i mean getting kicked to the Moon and not passing out? Not sure how much harder you would have to hit someone to get them to pass out :/
@@kyletaylor9832 Dragon Ball characters have done way more impressive feats. Piccolo legit blows up the moon, from earth, in, like, 2 seconds with ease, and that's just at the start of Z. Now they have dudes with hakai and shi, although Saitama is likely immune to hakai considering he can grab the portal things Garou used but the point still stands that being knocked to the moon is a miniscule feat in both verses
So one slap to knock him out for 2-3 weeks. . . One more every time they rematch to the point every time they fight it gets more sad and pathetic and the fights only last like .001 sec. Would the Baldy kill him, no but would he rag doll him to the point he just gives up on ever fighting, 1,000%
Saitama is actually pretty averse to killing, although you wouldn't know it by his body count. He only kills violent monsters who kill others. Monsters that only seek to cause mischief get a beat-down, but he leaves them alive. (Like Armored Gorilla.) And monsters that aren't hostile at all, like Manako, he gets along with just fine. Even human killers get a pass from him. We've seen Sonic literally kill people (the Paradisers), and even then Saitama just knocks him out and throws him in prison.
@@adamb89 Saitama never actually saw Sonic kill those guys, plus he's technically just doing his job as a hired bodyguard/assassin, which is different from being a monster. So no, Saitama is unlikely to go lethal on Speed of Sound Sonic.
At this point in the manga, not once has Saitama shown to be out of breath, tired or taxed in all of his fights or after performing his feats. So all of his feats right now barely scratched what he could ultimately do.
Yeah, it's always annoying when people say, "Saitama doesn't have feats to compete with goku." Like, yes, he does. But even if he didn't, he's never tried in a fight, so it's not an anti-feat. Like taking end of DBS Goku and having him fight Raditz, that doesn't mean Goku is only a bit stronger than Raditz, saying Super Goku only scales at Raditz level is idiotic but that's what they want to do to Saitama🙄
I love how the Viltrumites would sound like your typical OPM Fodder for the everyday episode. "Puny Humans, I am from the superior viltrumite race from a faraway planet come to conquer your weak planet, now KNEEL" *Gets one punched*, and then the episode about a burger man begins after that.
From what I can tell, he’s already been at his original max strength, but due to whatever insane power he may have, (I like to call it God-like adaptation) he can just keep growing more and more stronger, for what seems like an infinite amount.
The answer isn’t if Saitama could win. It is how much time will he take to do it. The Garou fight really put the nature of Saitama’s powers in context. Especially when I saw someone animate the manga panels. I was a fan of Saitama. Now I am simply a bystander, no longer able to fully enjoy these debates because I already know the outcome… Oh god, I’ve become the Saitama of death battles.
@@blackchibisan8116 Depends. I always walk away, and 9 times out of 10 it de-escalates the situation. I call that a victory. And if they sucker punch me from behind, or throw something, I shoot. That's also a victory. But that hasn't actually happened yet. Leaving is pretty effective! So I guess in my case it's worked 10 times out of 10?
@@adamb89 We talking about who would win power wise so leaving instead of defeating counts as a forfeit. This is like saying you won a martial arts tournament by not showing up. Because if we are talking in character, Saitama is not likely to be the aggressor here between the two and Nolan MIGHT be willing to invite Saitama to join his people just by virtue of being strong.
@@mumenrider1908 bro we don’t know how much stamina he actually has, I’m sure if he can blow up multiple stars he can survive the explosion of the stars he blows up.
The thing that makes Saitama unbeatable in this scenario is limiters. Nolan has a limiter to his power, and can/will reach a cap where he cannot grow stronger. Saitama, on the other hand, has removed his limiter, thus allowing him to get infinitely stronger.
That's exactly the problem with trying to powerscale Saitama. He literally never goes to his limits because he has none. So comparing his feats to his opponents is an absolutely pointless endevour since it makes the false assumption that what was being shown is everything he's capable of. Call me crazy but I believe that the mangaka plans to have Saitama even reach multiversal levels and the self awarenes of his existence within a manga.
@@LPVince94 The point of comparing feats is that each fictional universe has its own rules. Saying Saitama wins because of limitless potential is like saying Omni-Man hasn't failed to destroy a planet so he can compete with all of Saitama's feats.
@@LPVince94 fr bro. I feel like the only way someone would be able to beat saitama would be to be SO FUCKIN STRONG that they can either insta kill or kill saitama quickly not giving him time to grow in strength.
@@Forestdude9000 No that's not what I wrote though. I don't need to rely on the premise of Opm to invalidate the legitimacy of powerscaling Saitama. All I really need to do is ask you to provide me one feat that had Saitama show any signs of exhaustion in order for him to pull it off. You can't. That's why all of his feats can only be used to set a lower limit to what he's capable of. And that's only going to rise as the manga goes on. And then we include the premise of the manga and realize that we'll never get to see this illusive upper limit to his power because that's the point. There's never gonna be the classic shonen story arc of the hero needing to play catchup with the latest big bad. The next big bad will show up and Saitama will already be stronger than him. And you realize that the last big bad will be God cause that's how it's set up right now? You know this eldrich multi dimensional diety?
Saitama will always be unfathomably stronger than his opponent because the entire point of the story is the alienation that comes from that, and how he has to create meaning and relationships in other ways.
He also punched his way into Phoenix space. Which is a mental place. How did he do that? He just felt like it I guess lmao. Saitama like other meta/comedic characters isn't scaleable because he isnt written to be.
@@funnybones98 Oh yah I forgot he wasnt even trying to brute force in but broke in anyway lmao. People saying Saitama isnt a gimmick character are smoking the zaza.
@@sentientbeing8738 yeah, i saw one dude say that Goku was "technically a joke character" since the manga used to have a lighter tone. I think that Saitama would probably have to use something beyond serious punch.
omni man is essentially the veteran who spent all his time optimizing every possible strategy and abilities, while saitama just did every possible side quest and got ludicrously busted base stats
*Spoilers:* Saitama can grow his already overpowered stats, so if someone did equal or outmatched his strength our caped baldy would just increase his power until he one punch his adversary.
@@Lethalbanter He did. He was literally *getting stronger*, because he needed that to be able to harm Cosmic Fear Garou. Saitama "Never had the need to go full power" is your own headcanon directly contradicting canon, and it will never be taken seriously by any powerscalers.
@@Lethalbanter actually even before the exponential growth it was already implied that saitama has been growing in power but no one ever notices it because no one could ever “challenge” him. Even in some audio book of opm it indicated there that saitama is stronger the next day.
@@Arcad1010 ya saitama has been growing without realizing but not as fast until he fought cosmic garou his growth increase stacking up when his already growing lol
Saitamas growth I always imagined was as a slow constant rate, as he had no need to use full strength ever as he had long surpassed the planet in strength but not quite star level or interplanetary. Then Cosmic Garou comes along and suddenly he has a reason to grow rapidly rather than just passively. Yet he was always growing constantly.
When it comes to speed, people seem to conveniently forget how hard omni man struggled to react to red rush. This limits omni man's actual fighting speed in that scene to AT MOST a couple times the speed of sound, as red rush didn’t have any visible plasma being formed around him when moving at these speeds. Yes, we've seen omniman move faster than that, but when it comes to actually fighting and reacting, this is a massive anti-feat, that omniman fans conveniently forget about.
Really? He was not slow reacting. He was in no hurry. Those punches were not even noticeable. Omniman took his time for plausible deniability. He'd been better off quickly killing them all.
@@johnchestnut5340 rewatch the scene. When Omni Man was trying to break Red Rush head he was literally spitting blood from those Red Rush multiple punches. "not even noticeable".
@theboyfromnowhere4300 That was not his blood. Now he did bleed from other attacks. But none of Red Rush's blows hurt him. Red Rush was injuring himself.
@@johnchestnut5340 WTF???? Are you joking? NOT HIS BLOOD? DUDE HE WAS LITERALLY SPITTING BLOOD. LITERALLY. Honestly is not even debetable dude. You must be blind if you think is not his blood.
I would argue that Saitamas biggest strength is his resistance. While we can somewhat scale the power of his most powerful attack we have no idea of the power needed to even scratch him, if it's even possible to hurt him. Saitama could probably just don't do anything in this fight and he still couldn't lose.
But he's been phased by attacks before. Talking about feeling an attack, literally saying he felt the vibration of an attack go down his spine, his muscles being twitched by Tatsumaki, and the numerous times that we are able to visibly see Garou's punches (or well, Saitama's punches) effecting him. Just not that much. Most likely, a moment where Saitama is damaged is being saved for his inevitable fight with God.
If you do the kinetic energy calc Omni man at a lowball assuming he weighs 114kg should produce roughly 1.31E+37-5.24E+37 joules of force if he smashed into something at top speed This is mid-high end dwarf star level which is actually pretty crazy I’m pretty sure if Saitama clapped his hands the shockwave would kill Omniman instantly
Let's be honest hear. Omniman would try to do something like squish Saitama's head and Saitama would just end up thanking him for the scalp message. Omniman fights real dumb when he thinks he has an obvious advantage and no one is every underestimated more the Saitama.
Nah, it's just the most damage Saitama did while putting the least effort in. If he wanted to he could probably destroy the sun or chill in the sun seeing as he was swimming in lava and spitting out lava from his mouth casually.
@mulanomula in his fight with garou, the punch (I think it was a punch) literally destroys a giant portion of stars in space so he could definitely destroy stars like the sun with ease
You can't compare anyone to saitama anymore after he sneezed Jupiter away and also saitama has the ability to increase his power by tenfold during his fights due to his broken limiter.
Saitama can genuinely beat goku now. Of course goku can hypothetically clap Saitama by going UI, but as Goku loves fights he would increase his power slowly at at least with the same speed Saitama would but eventually goku would reach his limit where Saitama would just keep getting stronger.
@@DarthVader-wk9sd The problem is that Broly can be knocked and depowered into weaker states by brute force and his strength only lasts so long as he is angry, saitama's strength isn't dependent on his anger nor does it only persist depending on his anger. Additionally because broly's strength comes from his anger, it means he only gets stronger than angrier he gets, and at some point he'll hit a limit where he simply can't get more angry.
but it could also work against him, lets say they meet after he did that and saitama wants to get the the bargain sale in the last minute, he is just going to one shot him bc there is no time left
@@FireMageTheSorcerer or you could say ...... Fighting the need to have to fight Saitama, double layer a joke to make sure people get it's a joke , but i get you point What do you think about this situation, Omni-man knew not to get directly involved with Battle Beast, but still indirectly helped fight him by putting in an anonymous call to Cecil who sent back up to help invincible, Is that fighting? Since he is helping to Mark to fight?
@@pancake_bones2289 I think that doesn't count as fighting, but rather helping someone else who is fighting. It's like the Cold War between USA and USSR. They supported opposing sides of Korea and gave them weapons and stuff, but were not directly involved in the fight, so it was a proxy war, not a war between USA and USSR.
@@FireMageTheSorcerer I give you that one, cause Omni man wasn't ever actually going to fight there, (I've read the comic but won't spoil) what about the case of Alfred being "the guy in the chair" for Batman? Is helping the fight not fighting? If I was the particular villain to be apprehended, I would hold Alfred just as directly responsible as I would Batman ( in some cases batman would lose if not for Alfred being on the computer), Lol feels more like a discussion that should be on Reddit instead of RUclips
Saitama once said, its hard to tell if they are any different in strength when all it takes is one punch to defeat them, If Saitama actually wants to kill someone he can do it with one punch without any problem no matter how powerful they are, but if he wants to let them live he will continue to fight them until they give up
Which he actally does a lot. And it show why he's a hero not a fighter. Rember the house of evolution? All lived and we saw them at the end of season 1, he'll cyborg gorilla got a job. As did the power armor anti work guy. Then look the martial arts torment, he came back and saved a guy who talked down to him because he asked for help. The origin event before he even had power? Crab guy was picking on chin kid. When the people were turning on the heroes wheb.thr sea men attacked. He painted himself a villian to restore faith in heroes
Saitama solos the verse with ease the only thing Omni Man has over Saitama is Battle IQ,Experience and Skill, Saitama is Multi Solar System level with his power getting higher meanwhile Omni Man is Planet Level to Star Level if you wanna reach
Full power Omnipotus is part of the Invincible verse. When he gathered enough energy from his universe's resources, he destroyed it and Mark saw what remained of it after Angstrom Levy teleported him there
@@lucasbroome1048 serious squared punch may be not galaxy level but saitama grows exponentially after that. that make saitama galaxy to multi galaxy level
You're the best power scaler I've ever seen. No bias, you just use flat math, feats and circumstances to decide the outcome without personal attachement. Also, many times, you're actually bringing up to me how some of those characters are really strong. Omni-man for example, from what I've heared and seen, I thought he was moon-level at best, turns out he's close to a star level. Hope you'll keep up the good work, love your content
Yes, unlike SethTheProgrammer he uses math and logic instead of saying something like "Goku has destroyed planets Saitama didn't so that means Goku is stronger" type bullshit
@@gabrieldossantos1116 Dragon ball character have never destroyed a planet with pure physical strength. Only using Ki to destroy the core which any living being can do they dont need a strong power level..
Just one small point from someone who studied physics at university. It is actually physically IMPOSSIBLE to escape from within the event horizon of a black hole. Like, literally impossible, even if you can survive the acceleration which would string whole star systems into spaghetti (which Saitama probably could tbf) and even if you could propel yourself at any arbitrarily high velocity exceeding the speed of light (which is also not possible, but which Saitama probably can anyway), that still would not be enough to escape from a black hole. When you go beyond the event horizon, it is not a simple 'force' or gravity keeping you from pulling yourself out, it is the literal shape of the universe. The singularity bends spacetime in such a way that, once you pass the event horizon, all possible directions in space are TOWARDS the singularity. So even if you can move at a billion times the speed of light, there is no direction you can go which is 'away' from the singularity. Even a teleporter couldn't escape the event horizon for this very reason. The only way to escape from the event horizon of a black hole is to never have gone in in the first place. Which... to be fair, Saitama may be able to accomplish if he has time travel. But assuming he can't jump back on his own timeline, then at the very least the event horizon of a black hole should keep him contained.... ...maybe... or he'd just fart the universe into oblivion or something idk.
I’ve really been enjoying binging your content! The Hunter X Hunter content is what got me hooked, but seeing all the multiple sources of fiction you talk about is always fun. Hope to see more ❤
Keep up the good work my man, i found your channel because of your first garou vs goku, i cant believe i found your gem of a channel, easily my favorite scaler.
Great video man! Always love how you make your power scaling easy to digest. Would love to see more invincible vids if you have any ideas for one. Keep up the good work!
@@nobodynothing-ew5vvhow does one even do that? Did he just magically gain enough mass to become an even denser black hole than release it or something?!
I would love to see an animation where Omni-man and Saitama are about to fight it out, when Omni-man gets zero-punched from the future, with Saitama completely baffled as to what just happened.
@@_M.... king has reality manipulating luck, that even if he dies Saitama will surely travel back in time and he'll be revived as a result. Tats could stand up to animated omniman, but not the comic's. Blast would put omniman through a warp gate and split him in half.
I love how his voice kind of just cracks in disbelief when explaining how saitama broke inside a spiritual space that exists inside the costume of a monster Like, that is one of the most WTF feats of the entire series
about that shockwave from Garou's + Saitama's punch. a lot of people tends to forget that it was narrowed down by going through Blast's gate (which was supported by his team) nobody knows how much of the radius it would have been without Blast and his team's intervention
@@Golden_Projects the point is, a lot of these so called "power scalers" claimed that was the "feat". when it was just a circumstance that doesn't prove what they want to convince other people. it's like comparing a lightbulb that can already illuminate the whole room but was redirected to a single point like a laser - now it doesn't illuminate the whole room anymore - then these "power scalers" were simply saying "iT wAs clEAr thAt iT dIdn't, sO iT cOUldn't."
If you think about it, Saitama and Garo "destroying" those stars is much more impressive. The light disappears from the night sky all at the same time, meaning one of two things: 1) The fight had enough force to repel/redirect massless EM waves coming from that direction or, even more ridiculously, 2) the light had finished its journey through that region of space. In case 1, the force is comparable to a black hole. In case 2 though, light stopped being produced from all objects in that region, meaning the force of the fight was so great that it affected billions of years of time and annihilated the stars at the moment they happened to be traveling through that area. How do you scale something like that??
That implies both that the force of their attack is restricted in movement by conventional limits like the speed of light, and that the speed of light itself functions in the same way it does in the real world, which I don’t believe ONE or Murata took into consideration when drawing the panel. Taking the feat at face value, the only logical conclusion that can be derived is that their attack was so great, that it annihilated millions of stars in an instant (which would be Multi-Solar).
@@arandomguywithastrawhat some of the dots seen on the sky are galaxies, so for the space to be completely empty, they'd need to have erased entire galaxies out of existence
@@Golden_Projects A fair assumption, but that would be a generous interpretation of what they did. The presence of galaxies is entirely possible, but to be as impartial and unbiased as possible, it is more reasonable to presume that all of the dots within that portion of space that they annihilated were stars. A compromise such as that would still situate them comfortably in the Multi-Solar System range- on the higher end of it, in fact, considering that there were likely thousands, if not MILLIONS of celestial bodies that were wiped from reality in what was ostensibly the blink of an eye.
You forgot to mention that Saitama is limitless, and he could always grow depending on his opponents. And I'm pretty sure, his speed also increases. So by saying Omni man is faster, Saitama will eventually get faster
@@mikailsaga Where do he get those emotions then? Aren't it from his opponents? 😂 Like I said, if his opponents is greater than him in something, he will adjust himself to be greater
@@sidthixaychoummanivong5643I mean the only times it's 'mentioned' is whenever he gets pissed off, Geno's death and the Mosquito Incident being the two I recall. Other than that, Saitama is pretty Apathetic, even when fighting. Not even Boros could get him 'hyped up'. So ironically, the limited boost only really comes into effect against someone like him. Someone more powerful? He'll die before it activates (I'm talking about people who could kill him in one or two shots, obviously), too weak and you get what I mentioned earlier. I've mentioned this before but despite what people might say, Goku and Saitama would be perfect for one another, as they both scale to their opponents, and hold back if their opponent is weaker than them, granting the other the chance to catch up. The one flaw is Goku's is much slower than Saitama's, but that doesn't mean they can't battle or become friends. Just something to think about
@@ForgottenFafnir But I don't think Omni man could even make Saitama feel anything with a punch or two here blud 😂 Saitama actually isn't that furious when he fought Garou in outer space, he only furious when he first saw what Garou did to Genos, obviously he literally smiled when he fought Garou in Jupiter's moon. So, it still didn't change the fact that his power will always grow, and stated multiple times in the manga that he doesn't feel pain or get hurt at all.
@@ForgottenFafnir i was thinking that because saitama is longing for a fight that will put him on edge, then on the brink of death, I'm sure he'll have extreme enough emotions to "activate" this power up you're talking about. or like, when he somehow senses this opponent's overwhelming power? very interesting either way, if this ever really was the condition for him to start getting stronger. this must mean that to successfully defeat saitama, you'd need an absolute force to kill him in one hit instantaneously. an assassination, if you will.
An alternative and a more in character fight for Saitama is that he defeats Omni-man at the very beginning with 1 punch without resistance because unlike Boros, he can't completely revive himself from mere fragments of his body
@@bigdaddydudely2002except unlike Kryptonians, they don't have a "only this one thing can injure me," they can get hurt by just physical attacks. And even if they can survive being near death, they don't have regeneration to keep fighting through it
@@Aaa-vp6ug yeah but my point was just that Viltrumites don't need that much to hurt them by comparison. Just comparing Viltrumites to Kryptonians is laughable
@@ImHereCookin nope its not confirmed, it was never stated he wads GOD himself, obv there are references like in his fitness tests it was stated i was like god resided that body and stuff, but no real confimation as far
You need someone like The Mask or Popeye to even compete with Saitama. Saitama can take on the entire species of Viltrumites at once and still win with ease.
You need to remember. He beat somebody copying his power WITH ONE HAND. Garou said that throughout the fight saitama was doing nothing but getting stronger
Could Saitama, who with one punch darkened every star in one direction, kill the guy who supposedly caught a Texas sized meteor once? Hmmmmmmm This is a hard one guys.
That is just becoming lame and dull now. The Texas sized meteor garbage is irrelevant nonsense that brainless fools want to use just to say: "Omni-man wins, I'm right, you're wrong!" Like grow up dude, seriously! 😒🙄😐
Tell me how Blast, Boros, and Tatsumaki aren't dominating the verse 💀 The Five Dollar and below Justice League hurt him and the top tier S-class heroes are wayyy better than that
Ye if we’re being frank saitama would slam omniman most likely accidentally there’s simply no way for omniman to bypass Saitama’s quite ridiculous haxx
@@yoannmarchesse988 exactly. Only joke characters or time travellers (who kill Saitama before he trains) or reality benders can even hope to compete with Saitama.
Saitama sneezed and nearly destroyed Jupiter 😑. It's also confirmed that Saitama constantly grows stronger the more he fights. At the beginning of the fight with garou, garou was stronger. It was stated Saitama grew stronger than him in just a few minutes or even seconds. Saitama solos the verse.
@Qlirim No, Cosmic Garou was stronger than Saitama at the beginning if that encounter. They may have had equal stats, but Garou knew how to use them in a fight, as well as having intent to kill. When it comes to equal stats, whoever is the better fighter is the stronger one.
You guys need to re-read the manga lol. Saitama was literally fighting with only one hand the whole time against Garou not to mention he didnt get damaged at the slightest. Saitama had the upper hand all the time lol. Also if you mention the argument when their power escalates you might have misunderstood it. It shows them at the same pace but not as their true power. Like Saitama was way stronger than Garou even then but when they escalated their power it wasnt actually their power but it was who was growing faster and not saying they were at the equal terms.
Since I have been part of both TV shows it's hard to argue but I know that you're underestimating Omni men then again you did a great job describing them in a lot of ways better than most Invincible is just very complicated
While I get that it’s to give him a fighting chance, Omniman’s MFTL speeds are only relevant in travel, and are virtually useless in a fight. Most Invincible characters, Omniman included, get their MFTL speeds from Smart Atoms, which warp and compress space around them as they fly. This space warping grows exponentially overtime until they reach those MFTL speeds, and it takes a long time for Viltrumites to get anywhere close to them. As such, most Invincible characters only have Relativistic combat speeds and reactions, which is how Omniman struggles to fight characters going far below light speed (the Guardians and Hail Mary), and why he couldn’t just instantly cross the country to find Mark after his cover was blown. In comparison, most OPM characters’ combat speeds, Saitama included, are virtually the same as their travel speed, with no acceleration needed. Omniman would need to build up speed for a while to even compare to characters like Platinum Sperm and Awakened Garou (pre-Cosmic), much less Saitama. TL;DR, Omniman vs. Saitama plays out the same way Genos vs Saitama did.
Another thing that nerfs Omni-man's speed is that his verse respects physics a little bit more than OPM, he cannot fly too fast inside an atmosphere or else the entire planet's surface would combust, as seen when he wiped out the alien invaders' planet. Though because of that, I think it would be fair to have Omni-man fight Saitama in the OPM verse.
Great video! Read both Invincible and One punch man (at least all of released manga) - love them both Saitama is obviously one of the most powerful entities in the most fictional universes. But he’s made like that specifically by his author. It’s the irony of being the strongest, but at the same time bored (like when you playing a video game with cheats) and unnoticed
This video would be much shorter, and yet pretty much just as accurate if you went through all of Omni Man's stats and abilities, then turned to Saitama and said, "And this guy can take Omni Man out in one punch." Roll the credits.
I think the only legitimate way to defeat Saitama, before he escalates in power to the point of assured victory, is to defeat him in a single blow at the beginning of the fight. Otherwise, he's given time to get stronger and exponentially so. The One-Punch Man must be One-Punched.
@@danchiziofficial2159 in Saitama's case, its not a fallacy. Because the entire reason he is so strong in the first place is that he trained so hard he broke the limit of how strong he was supposed to be able to get. He literally trained so hard he broke the rules of the universe and has no limit anymore as a result. And while his power at any given moment isnt infinite, if faced with an actual challenge he will get stronger and stronger even as the fight proceeds, with no ceiling. just read up his fight with garo, it fully shows how Saitama's power can evolve. oh also its implied his power doesnt usually go back DOWN after growing, it took time travel to reset his power to a pre-garo state where he wouldnt risk accidentally blowing up the world with a sneeze.
So I don't know if anyone's brought this up before (or if this is just the main way of looking at it) but the "blowing away the stars" thing looks more like Saitama and Garou warped gravity enough to turn the light of all those stars away from earth - which, don't get me wrong, is terrifyingly impressive (partly because recent science suggests this could CREATE MATTER), but it's nothing on actually destroying millions of stars
(personal theory) I believe that Saitama's body adapts to and increases his abilities far in excess of whatever force/threat he is facing. And remains at that level until a force stronger than the previous one presents itself. I am not even sure if he is consciously aware of that possibility, his physical power just keeps increasing. But on some level of his consciousness he keeps that power definitively under control, because if he didn't every step he takes would be destructive AF. For example World Breaker Hulks power reaching levels that one step taken could have sank the eastern seaboard. Eh, this is just a theory from someone typing on a keyboard as the Adderall and coffee caffeine combo kicked in.
yeah, saitamas "power" seems to be that his power is limitless, and scales exponentially when even faced with a mildly strong opponend. Think goku, who fights and almost dies, then gets strong enough to beat his opponent- Saitama's power scales like that, but much, much faster and much higher.
@@Sasqe it was surpressed, bozo, even if he redirected it, the blast would've literally destroyed the earth regardless, as he only managed to get the blast above the stratosphere, moron.
@@Sasqe he said it himself in the panel: he may not have been able to do it on his own, as the shockwave alone from trying to teleport it was too much, he literally got flinged away like a bug on someone's shoulder in zero gravity, no less.
@@Trolololol123 i know i'm just stating the factual general synopsis/breaking it down as lay man as i possibly can. so there would be no misunderstandings.
By looking at Saitama's fight with Garou it's clear that Saitama has no limit and instantly grows multiple times as strong as whoever he's fighting or is simply has infinite power and punches his opponent 10 times as hard as they punched him. If it's the first one then he could lose to an opponent that is insanely above is current level if they used an attack strong enough to instantly kill him otherwise he would simply outgrow them instantly.
@realimassimiliano4748 this why saitama beats goku unless goku speedblitzes and kills him which he won't cuz saitama isn't evil hee doomed by how fast saitama grows
@@jonathanbenoit-mj9cv this is not entirely true goku could howewer use a attack enough strong to knock out Saitama without killing him and from a death battle perspective the winner is howewer goku
@@realimassimiliano4748 death battle- goku wins realistic battle- saitama wins, cus goku would just let him get stronger and would get quickly out grown.
I think deku vs homelander would be a cool fight because I believe it wold be a pretty even fight and because of the differing ideologies when it comes to being a hero.
To me, at least, any numbers pertaining to Saitama are useless. People keep wondering what his limit is, but that’s the thing. He has no limit. However strong you think he may be, multiply that by an infinite amount. The reason we’ve seen strong enemies like Boros survive his punches was because Saitama wasn’t even trying. He never tries because he doesn’t need to. His strength is infinite, and no matter what enemy he faces, they will all end with a single punch.
For real. Boros was reduced to paste by Saitama's punch... and only survives because he's able to reconstitute himself. An amazing ability to be sure but one that clearly had a limit. He couldn't keep doing it.
@@trustmeits610pm2 He had to think of the planet too. If it wasn't about earth then Saitama could've easily punched hard enough that he couldn't recover. Though I know that Saitama always gives a chance to his opponents to show their power and never one shots then from the start if they can comprehend a punch from him.
The only way to "beat" saitama is doing it in a funny way it seems. From a seemingly godly mosquito, to losing in videogames despite his insane reaction speeds, things like that. Just make it funny and Saitama is suddenly unable to escape the gag moment.
Omni Man at max is probably star level,but Saitama casually is multi solar system level+.Hell his Jupiter feat can get to either dwarf star level or star level I think.
@@slamyourheadin9449 I’m trying wrap my head around how Omni man got to star level. When he with 3 others could have died doing a planet busting feat. His son and thragg were getting cooked by a star so they definitely can’t survive around one so they cannot manage that level of energy let alone muster up enough to destroy one. Saitama accidentally sneezed a massive portion of Jupiter away. I say this again he sneezed and did that. His sneeze would obliterate earth
@@Marshkoonby the feat of viltrum, since that planet is not a regular one, because it can takes blasts from the infinity ray that can 1 shot stars, and viltrum just desestabalize in light speed levels, it would estabalize in a instant if it wast for the 3 viltrumites
Saitama at this current point in the manga is leagues above anything any of the invisible characters have ever done and even where he's at in the anime has already surpassed them
Tbh I'm pretty sure anyone who has read the Cosmic Garou vs Saitama manga or watched the fan animation of it which is directly from the manga would know, since Saitama's fart propelled him to Garou at light speed or even surpassing that.
Saitama learnt the epitome of martial arts that required full understanding of martial arts and the flow of energy/matter in the universe to create, in like a second. Saitama IS a fighting genius, he just never needs to show it cus he can just brute-force his way through any fight.
just looked at your channel and hell u have some great ideas i rlly loved the garou vs The seven/ the saiyans vs s class heros these ideas are really good keep em up
Am I the only person who has a really hard time accepting that speed calculation for Omni-man? The dude regularly gets tagged by opponents who are unquestionably moving at sublight if not subsonic speeds. Him moving between galaxies at 3.2 billion times light speed seems extremely inconsistent with how he's usually portrayed moving in hand-to-hand combat. I would have assumed that he must be using some kind of special technique to move between galaxies that is only accessible in deep space or is somehow impractical in combat. It just seems weird that he almost never actually uses even a tiny fraction of his apparent top speed.
There’s 2 explanations if you accept the calculation(some guides made the calculations contentious but I was highballing for video sake): One, anyone who scales to Omni Man can fight at those speeds, or witbin a decent degree of those speeds. It’s a fictional universe, a “peak human” can be 827281928 times light speed if the writer makes it that way. Two, it’s stated several times that Omni Man and the other characters are heavily suppressed against “street level” villains or when fighting close to a planet, which is why most top tier fights in the comics occur in space or when they happen on earth they cause cataclysmic damage
@professorfiction9823 either of explanations still cause all kinds of weird fridge logic though. Like, if everyone is just always fighting at billions of times light speed because that's normal in this fictional universe, then how are normal people able to follow and record their movements? How can they talk to and see each others movements while fighting? How are they not igniting the atmosphere from friction and creating hurricanes when they move? If he's suppressing his own speed normally, then it seems like he should still easily be able to avoid all attacks from slow opponents. You said his reflexes are equal to his movement speed, so shouldn't he perceive most everyone to be moving in slow motion and basically have permanent bullet time? Or is he also suppressing his own reflexes?
@@AlteredNova04 Invincible characters sometimes have to move as fast as light to see and perceive as fast as light. This happens in real life (to an extent) of fast traveling space ships/shuttles
You have to suspend your sense of disbelief for any medium of fiction. Invincible have blatant hypersonic feats and statements even for the lower tier characters which would be so fast no normal human should be able to track it already. It doesn’t really make sense no matter how you chalk it up. Same goes for opm. It’s a fictional world, those normal humans probably aren’t “normal” by our human standards more than likely
Saitama sneezes and Omni Man turns into Omni Dust.
No Saitama just uses Talk No Jitsu after beating him up and stops him.
By “beating him up” I mean punching him with a normal punch and instantly punching a hole through his torso.
Rofl fucking killed me with this one
@@myusername3689 saitama dont have talk no its naruto if saitama does then naruto still has a better talk no
@@monk9985 Only times Saitama ever even has talk no jutsu is either when it's for helping out those in need of it or about being an actual mentor to some of the heroes, Difference between his and Naruto's talk no jutsu is that Naruto's is for fighting against the principles of the villains while Saitama's is for empowering what's right to the heroes
Fun fact: Saitama states that his killer moves (Serious series) are just basic attacks. He doesn't actually use any more strength than normal. He says this to King.
Yeah he punches.... A Little HARDER!!
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@@RealSekiroGamerz just that but a lot
@@equinox3625 Skibidi dopdopdop
@@RealSekiroGamerzhe wasnt lol. Saitama wasnt using both of his hands and he promised the fat kid that he wont kill garou
The only hope for Omni Man would be to team-up with the mosquito..
Or the cat
@@user-utshi9hagive saitama a chance bro
Scary duo 😱
only true opm fans will get that reference
yes. haha!
Now imagine this fight but with King instead of Saitama. With King's borderline impossible luck, I absolutely see his loud heartbeat *ACCIDENTALLY* producing the exact frequency needed to hurt Omni-man's ears (since the vestibular system is one of the weaknesses viltrumites have) which would make him think something like "Holy crap, this guy is so strong that his sheer aura is able to immediately find my weakness and attack it. He will destroy me if he actually decides to attack me physically. I need to get out of here and report back so we can try and find a way to defeat this absolute monster of a human".
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King just uses plot armour to summon saitama
@@vondalironfist5753I didn’t even know King had that kind of luck!
Why is this so funny to me?
kings ability to summon saitama results in the same outcome as this video
You always have to remember that the only reason why Saitama "cannot" do something is simply because he has no need or someone has yet to come to allow him to perform such feats.
Exactly, this fact right here is just insane. Plus that it's cannon makes it even scarier
Not really. Saitama needed to grow in power exponentially in order to combat Garou who was copying Saitama’s previous power
And Saitama doesn’t have any super powers. He just has superhuman stats and some hax/ability resistances.
He only got his first super power via OPM’s idea of martial arts, which is the time travel, though he forgot how to do it
@@jocoolshow seems like someone doesn't read the manga or just has a problem with comprehension. It's clearly stated that Saitama has never felt the need to get stronger as his base form was usually enough to deal with opponents. But the appearance of garou, someone who go initial go tick for tack with Saitama led to his growth.
@@nmichael2826 his body can access essentially infinite strength if he needs to but he doesn’t need to. Garou came in with a 5 Saitama jumped to 5.5, so Garou went to 7 Saitama went to 9. And onwards regardless of this his durability is already MAXED so I’m not sure what anyone could do when we still take into account he hasn’t been harmed in combat whatsoever. I wonder if people forget that he took a gamma ray burst to the face and just landed back on the planet without a problem. That’s the largest know explosion in the universe currently after the Big Bang. Omni man would have died blowing up a planet with 3 people if the core of said planet was stable. He gets one tapped by Saitama when he fought Boros he negated a planet busting attack with the shockwave of his punch alone and spilt the clouds above them so far it’s clearly visible from space he made sure his energy was never directed at the planet.
How is this even a fight lol
@@nmichael2826 fr
Saitama: “Woah, hey wait dude, we need to move our fight, we’re right in a subway track,”
Omniman: “I know. Time to teach y-“
Saitama (grabbing Omniman and forcibly moving him): “I said we need to move our fight”
Basically Ichigo facepalming Aizen into going to a desolate place but with a lot more nuclear explosions
@@gabrieldossantos1116 Exactly the scene I had in mind, lol.
@@gabrieldossantos1116 add on him jumping to pluto and turning it into an astroid field or something with the impact of omni man getting slammed
Your comment is the definition of the word cringe
@@xeox4280 your comment is the definition of cringe.
I remember back in the day when people used the argument that Saitama can't breath in space to argue against him, thank god for that Cosmic Fear Garou fight. That fight showcased a fraction of his limitless potential.
Wasn’t he just holding his breath
@@KJtosigma How would he be holding his breath while talking and sneezing in space?
@@LightVelox he has a lot of breath obviously
@@KJtosigma you can't sneeze and hold your breath at the same time
@@LightVelox duh but you can still have breath left over for me and you it won’t be a lot but for someone like him he obviously can
What many people don’t get is that Garou was matching Saitama blow for blow in terms of power, it’s just that he was matching the Saitama of a half second ago.
Saitama was growing so quickly that by the time each blow connected he was already impervious to it.
Anyone who actually presses him is going to be lapped in a heartbeat.
Unless they're strong enough to one shot him. That is the only caveat to fighting Saitama, you have to one shot him or you will lose
@@KaseyC. not really, saitama's durability is like maxed out. Never once in the Garou fight was he hurt in any way. I mean maybe you can one shot him but I don't find that likely.
@@Golden_Projects yeah but it was also directly explained that Garou was, like, miles below Saitama throughout that entire fight because Saitama just continued to outgrow him. Basically, Garou was never once stronger than Saitama, and was never once even on Saitama's level if we're being honest.
@@KaseyC. Its never been done so assumed impossible , i mean getting kicked to the Moon and not passing out? Not sure how much harder you would have to hit someone to get them to pass out :/
@@kyletaylor9832 Dragon Ball characters have done way more impressive feats. Piccolo legit blows up the moon, from earth, in, like, 2 seconds with ease, and that's just at the start of Z. Now they have dudes with hakai and shi, although Saitama is likely immune to hakai considering he can grab the portal things Garou used but the point still stands that being knocked to the moon is a miniscule feat in both verses
If Saitama regards Omni Man as a human (he certainly looks human), he won't punch to kill.
So one slap to knock him out for 2-3 weeks. . . One more every time they rematch to the point every time they fight it gets more sad and pathetic and the fights only last like .001 sec. Would the Baldy kill him, no but would he rag doll him to the point he just gives up on ever fighting, 1,000%
Once Saitama sees civilians in danger he will kill he dont realy care hurt a guy and u will get one punched
If Saitama witnessed the Omni-man's fight with Invincible, then he most likely will kill
Saitama is actually pretty averse to killing, although you wouldn't know it by his body count. He only kills violent monsters who kill others. Monsters that only seek to cause mischief get a beat-down, but he leaves them alive. (Like Armored Gorilla.) And monsters that aren't hostile at all, like Manako, he gets along with just fine. Even human killers get a pass from him. We've seen Sonic literally kill people (the Paradisers), and even then Saitama just knocks him out and throws him in prison.
@@adamb89 Saitama never actually saw Sonic kill those guys, plus he's technically just doing his job as a hired bodyguard/assassin, which is different from being a monster. So no, Saitama is unlikely to go lethal on Speed of Sound Sonic.
At this point in the manga, not once has Saitama shown to be out of breath, tired or taxed in all of his fights or after performing his feats. So all of his feats right now barely scratched what he could ultimately do.
Yeah, it's always annoying when people say, "Saitama doesn't have feats to compete with goku." Like, yes, he does. But even if he didn't, he's never tried in a fight, so it's not an anti-feat. Like taking end of DBS Goku and having him fight Raditz, that doesn't mean Goku is only a bit stronger than Raditz, saying Super Goku only scales at Raditz level is idiotic but that's what they want to do to Saitama🙄
@@leviwatson1891fr, plus OPM isn’t finished and only had 2 real fights with Saitama, while Goku had decades of content to use.
except against flies.., Saitamas kryptonite
@@VampireNoblesse Mosquitos, not flies
@@Applespider12._.
This video is essentially "hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby 2: electric boogaloo"
Hermitcraft reference goes hard on god no cap fr fr on gang no kizzy
I love how the Viltrumites would sound like your typical OPM Fodder for the everyday episode.
"Puny Humans, I am from the superior viltrumite race from a faraway planet come to conquer your weak planet, now KNEEL" *Gets one punched*, and then the episode about a burger man begins after that.
Honestly would be awesome to see them possibly monsterify.
Viltrumites are basically just Boros
Burger man was a god level threat stop playin
@@El_IF_B_2 boros solos all of the viltrumites at base
The best thing about Saitama is that nobody knows how strong he really is :-D
Even he himself
From what I can tell, he’s already been at his original max strength, but due to whatever insane power he may have, (I like to call it God-like adaptation) he can just keep growing more and more stronger, for what seems like an infinite amount.
We do actually.....
Hes like.... Low-Mid Galaxy level
@@Chris_HT That’s Not his Max Capability.
Yeeeeah Nah,rn in the Manga Like Half the World is Learning about Saitama’s Power lol.
The answer isn’t if Saitama could win. It is how much time will he take to do it.
The Garou fight really put the nature of Saitama’s powers in context. Especially when I saw someone animate the manga panels.
I was a fan of Saitama. Now I am simply a bystander, no longer able to fully enjoy these debates because I already know the outcome…
Oh god, I’ve become the Saitama of death battles.
Actually victory isn't guaranteed, it's just that he won't lose. Omni-Man could've just...left. Saitama can't fly.
@@adamb89
Yeah, but your opponent retreating is a form of victory.
@@blackchibisan8116 Depends. I always walk away, and 9 times out of 10 it de-escalates the situation. I call that a victory. And if they sucker punch me from behind, or throw something, I shoot. That's also a victory. But that hasn't actually happened yet. Leaving is pretty effective! So I guess in my case it's worked 10 times out of 10?
@@adamb89
We talking about who would win power wise so leaving instead of defeating counts as a forfeit.
This is like saying you won a martial arts tournament by not showing up.
Because if we are talking in character, Saitama is not likely to be the aggressor here between the two and Nolan MIGHT be willing to invite Saitama to join his people just by virtue of being strong.
@@blackchibisan8116 That or they might end up hanging up at Saitama's apartment like everyone else at this point lol
I mean, let’s be real here before we clicked the video we knew stamina was gonna win
stamina
Ah yes the caped baldy *sTaMiNa*
@@mumenrider1908 bro we don’t know how much stamina he actually has, I’m sure if he can blow up multiple stars he can survive the explosion of the stars he blows up.
He’s never ran out of “stamina” 💀 he doesn’t have a limit for anything what don’t you get about his character
stamina who?
Asking how strong Saitama is is just like asking what the time was when time started.
It was obviously 0
@@ChiefMakes lmfao! Fair. I meant before, but Im leaving it. Lol.
@@krimzonghost1987oh then I agree
The thing that makes Saitama unbeatable in this scenario is limiters. Nolan has a limiter to his power, and can/will reach a cap where he cannot grow stronger. Saitama, on the other hand, has removed his limiter, thus allowing him to get infinitely stronger.
That's exactly the problem with trying to powerscale Saitama. He literally never goes to his limits because he has none. So comparing his feats to his opponents is an absolutely pointless endevour since it makes the false assumption that what was being shown is everything he's capable of.
Call me crazy but I believe that the mangaka plans to have Saitama even reach multiversal levels and the self awarenes of his existence within a manga.
@@LPVince94 That’s probably true. They’re likely to give him the Deadpool treatment and allow him to become immortal
@@LPVince94 The point of comparing feats is that each fictional universe has its own rules. Saying Saitama wins because of limitless potential is like saying Omni-Man hasn't failed to destroy a planet so he can compete with all of Saitama's feats.
@@LPVince94 fr bro. I feel like the only way someone would be able to beat saitama would be to be SO FUCKIN STRONG that they can either insta kill or kill saitama quickly not giving him time to grow in strength.
@@Forestdude9000
No that's not what I wrote though. I don't need to rely on the premise of Opm to invalidate the legitimacy of powerscaling Saitama.
All I really need to do is ask you to provide me one feat that had Saitama show any signs of exhaustion in order for him to pull it off. You can't. That's why all of his feats can only be used to set a lower limit to what he's capable of. And that's only going to rise as the manga goes on. And then we include the premise of the manga and realize that we'll never get to see this illusive upper limit to his power because that's the point. There's never gonna be the classic shonen story arc of the hero needing to play catchup with the latest big bad.
The next big bad will show up and Saitama will already be stronger than him. And you realize that the last big bad will be God cause that's how it's set up right now? You know this eldrich multi dimensional diety?
Saitama will always be unfathomably stronger than his opponent because the entire point of the story is the alienation that comes from that, and how he has to create meaning and relationships in other ways.
I love you ❤️, I glad someone here understands Saitama.
unless his opponent also has this hack, like john constatine
Well as of recently we know how strong he is but he will always grow stronger
A more fair fight would be Saitama vs Buggs Bunny
I don't care, Goku still negs
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Saitama kicked a wormhole. So… yeah. How do you even scale that?
Trans-dimensionalty 😮💨
He also punched his way into Phoenix space. Which is a mental place. How did he do that? He just felt like it I guess lmao. Saitama like other meta/comedic characters isn't scaleable because he isnt written to be.
@@sentientbeing8738he knocked dude, he was politely let in
@@funnybones98 Oh yah I forgot he wasnt even trying to brute force in but broke in anyway lmao. People saying Saitama isnt a gimmick character are smoking the zaza.
@@sentientbeing8738 yeah, i saw one dude say that Goku was "technically a joke character" since the manga used to have a lighter tone. I think that Saitama would probably have to use something beyond serious punch.
omni man is essentially the veteran who spent all his time optimizing every possible strategy and abilities, while saitama just did every possible side quest and got ludicrously busted base stats
And the fact that Saitama's base stats keep on exponentially growing makes him unstoppable in the OPM universe.
Not really, saitama would be the pc user that uses mods.
Omni Man is a pvp god in prot 4 netherite armor and Saitama is that guy with OP modded gear
*Spoilers:*
Saitama can grow his already overpowered stats, so if someone did equal or outmatched his strength our caped baldy would just increase his power until he one punch his adversary.
He doesn't grow his power, he just dials it up a bit depending on who he's fighting. He's never had the need to go full power
@@Lethalbanter He did. He was literally *getting stronger*, because he needed that to be able to harm Cosmic Fear Garou.
Saitama "Never had the need to go full power" is your own headcanon directly contradicting canon, and it will never be taken seriously by any powerscalers.
@@Lethalbanter actually even before the exponential growth it was already implied that saitama has been growing in power but no one ever notices it because no one could ever “challenge” him. Even in some audio book of opm it indicated there that saitama is stronger the next day.
@@Arcad1010 ya saitama has been growing without realizing but not as fast until he fought cosmic garou his growth increase stacking up when his already growing lol
Saitamas growth I always imagined was as a slow constant rate, as he had no need to use full strength ever as he had long surpassed the planet in strength but not quite star level or interplanetary. Then Cosmic Garou comes along and suddenly he has a reason to grow rapidly rather than just passively. Yet he was always growing constantly.
I really like these videos! I don't see a lot of RUclipsrs do really in depth vids like this. Awesome work! 👍
Great video really loved. Imagine Omni man just looking Saitama then gets punched from the future.
man what ive seen this everywhere
There are literally so many. What are you talking about
@@Healthnwealth250 well then i probably havent seen them
When it comes to speed, people seem to conveniently forget how hard omni man struggled to react to red rush. This limits omni man's actual fighting speed in that scene to AT MOST a couple times the speed of sound, as red rush didn’t have any visible plasma being formed around him when moving at these speeds. Yes, we've seen omniman move faster than that, but when it comes to actually fighting and reacting, this is a massive anti-feat, that omniman fans conveniently forget about.
Really? He was not slow reacting. He was in no hurry. Those punches were not even noticeable. Omniman took his time for plausible deniability. He'd been better off quickly killing them all.
In the comics Omni man kills all of them with not a second thought, like 1 panel each with no struggle.
@@johnchestnut5340 rewatch the scene. When Omni Man was trying to break Red Rush head he was literally spitting blood from those Red Rush multiple punches.
"not even noticeable".
@theboyfromnowhere4300 That was not his blood. Now he did bleed from other attacks. But none of Red Rush's blows hurt him. Red Rush was injuring himself.
@@johnchestnut5340 WTF???? Are you joking? NOT HIS BLOOD? DUDE HE WAS LITERALLY SPITTING BLOOD. LITERALLY. Honestly is not even debetable dude. You must be blind if you think is not his blood.
I would argue that Saitamas biggest strength is his resistance. While we can somewhat scale the power of his most powerful attack we have no idea of the power needed to even scratch him, if it's even possible to hurt him. Saitama could probably just don't do anything in this fight and he still couldn't lose.
But he's been phased by attacks before. Talking about feeling an attack, literally saying he felt the vibration of an attack go down his spine, his muscles being twitched by Tatsumaki, and the numerous times that we are able to visibly see Garou's punches (or well, Saitama's punches) effecting him. Just not that much. Most likely, a moment where Saitama is damaged is being saved for his inevitable fight with God.
Don’t forget the cat
I'm pretty sure Saitama can be harmed, it's just that nothing so far has been strong enough to do so
i love this guy's power scaling, very entertaining to nearly understand something
If you do the kinetic energy calc Omni man at a lowball assuming he weighs 114kg should produce roughly 1.31E+37-5.24E+37 joules of force if he smashed into something at top speed
This is mid-high end dwarf star level which is actually pretty crazy
I’m pretty sure if Saitama clapped his hands the shockwave would kill Omniman instantly
Saitama destroyed millions of stars in his fight with Garou bro One shots the verse
If you're happy and you know it...
@@skenanaAccidentally destroy the earth by clapping your hands
you can get omniman to uni
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 galaxies
Let's be honest hear. Omniman would try to do something like squish Saitama's head and Saitama would just end up thanking him for the scalp message. Omniman fights real dumb when he thinks he has an obvious advantage and no one is every underestimated more the Saitama.
Bro really thinks that that sneeze was his peak strength.
Nah, it's just the most damage Saitama did while putting the least effort in. If he wanted to he could probably destroy the sun or chill in the sun seeing as he was swimming in lava and spitting out lava from his mouth casually.
@mulanomula in his fight with garou, the punch (I think it was a punch) literally destroys a giant portion of stars in space so he could definitely destroy stars like the sun with ease
@skintt1627 it was serious punch² the result of saitama and garous punch colliding
@@DavelexHyes but that version of Saitama was way weaker than zneeze saitama.
We saw what he did to cosmic Garou when he went back in time
You can't compare anyone to saitama anymore after he sneezed Jupiter away and also saitama has the ability to increase his power by tenfold during his fights due to his broken limiter.
Saitama can genuinely beat goku now.
Of course goku can hypothetically clap Saitama by going UI, but as Goku loves fights he would increase his power slowly at at least with the same speed Saitama would but eventually goku would reach his limit where Saitama would just keep getting stronger.
@@jackb.207 Most reasonable argument I have ever read
@@jackb.207 Broly had the same ability and it didn't end well, broly also had feats that dwarf the baldy
@@DarthVader-wk9sd no brolys growth speed isn't nearly as fast nor was he as strong at the start of his fight lol
@@DarthVader-wk9sd The problem is that Broly can be knocked and depowered into weaker states by brute force and his strength only lasts so long as he is angry, saitama's strength isn't dependent on his anger nor does it only persist depending on his anger. Additionally because broly's strength comes from his anger, it means he only gets stronger than angrier he gets, and at some point he'll hit a limit where he simply can't get more angry.
i wouldn’t be surprised if the god vs saitama fight is complete insanity. good video
There is the god vs saitama fancomic which is insane. You can read it, it looks cool.
@@globurim link would be really good
@@capedbaldy123 just type saitama vs god fan comic you'll get it it gots a few parts if I remember
If the fan made was fire I can't wait for the burning apocalypse they are gonna draw
"i literally erased all of the comprehensible universe why are you still here"
"wait did you erase the apartment too???"
Omni man just has to intimidate a story owner into have an unbelievable bargain sale, you beat Saitama by not fighting him
but it could also work against him, lets say they meet after he did that and saitama wants to get the the bargain sale in the last minute, he is just going to one shot him bc there is no time left
That's called avoiding a fight not beating someone in a fight.
@@FireMageTheSorcerer or you could say ...... Fighting the need to have to fight Saitama, double layer a joke to make sure people get it's a joke , but i get you point
What do you think about this situation, Omni-man knew not to get directly involved with Battle Beast, but still indirectly helped fight him by putting in an anonymous call to Cecil who sent back up to help invincible, Is that fighting? Since he is helping to Mark to fight?
@@pancake_bones2289 I think that doesn't count as fighting, but rather helping someone else who is fighting. It's like the Cold War between USA and USSR. They supported opposing sides of Korea and gave them weapons and stuff, but were not directly involved in the fight, so it was a proxy war, not a war between USA and USSR.
@@FireMageTheSorcerer I give you that one, cause Omni man wasn't ever actually going to fight there, (I've read the comic but won't spoil) what about the case of Alfred being "the guy in the chair" for Batman? Is helping the fight not fighting? If I was the particular villain to be apprehended, I would hold Alfred just as directly responsible as I would Batman ( in some cases batman would lose if not for Alfred being on the computer), Lol feels more like a discussion that should be on Reddit instead of RUclips
Saitama once said, its hard to tell if they are any different in strength when all it takes is one punch to defeat them, If Saitama actually wants to kill someone he can do it with one punch without any problem no matter how powerful they are, but if he wants to let them live he will continue to fight them until they give up
Is sait wanted someone to live he'd just ko them
Which he actally does a lot. And it show why he's a hero not a fighter. Rember the house of evolution? All lived and we saw them at the end of season 1, he'll cyborg gorilla got a job. As did the power armor anti work guy. Then look the martial arts torment, he came back and saved a guy who talked down to him because he asked for help. The origin event before he even had power? Crab guy was picking on chin kid. When the people were turning on the heroes wheb.thr sea men attacked. He painted himself a villian to restore faith in heroes
Well, as for Saitama's stamina, none of his fights last long enough for such feats to be discovered.
bro would just sleep thru omni man beating him
He was out of breath chasing a mosquito down a block
@@invis_potionthat mosquito could solo the entire JJK verse
@@RandomunnamedOmoriFan ong
@@RandomunnamedOmoriFani hate that you are right😭
Saitama solos the verse with ease the only thing Omni Man has over Saitama is Battle IQ,Experience and Skill, Saitama is Multi Solar System level with his power getting higher meanwhile Omni Man is Planet Level to Star Level if you wanna reach
Huh? So, Saitama is a solar system fighting with one hand? You're an idiot. Saitama is easily universal.
saitama was multi galaxy lvl beflre his poeer became a mystery again. and thats without his hax
Full power Omnipotus is part of the Invincible verse. When he gathered enough energy from his universe's resources, he destroyed it and Mark saw what remained of it after Angstrom Levy teleported him there
@@ImHereCookin Where do people get the galaxy thing for the serious squared punch?
@@lucasbroome1048 serious squared punch may be not galaxy level but saitama grows exponentially after that. that make saitama galaxy to multi galaxy level
You're the best power scaler I've ever seen. No bias, you just use flat math, feats and circumstances to decide the outcome without personal attachement. Also, many times, you're actually bringing up to me how some of those characters are really strong. Omni-man for example, from what I've heared and seen, I thought he was moon-level at best, turns out he's close to a star level. Hope you'll keep up the good work, love your content
Yes, unlike SethTheProgrammer he uses math and logic instead of saying something like "Goku has destroyed planets Saitama didn't so that means Goku is stronger" type bullshit
@@kokozweeb Planets like Jupiter?
@@kokozweeb Yeah Saitama never destroyed planets... With his hands at least definitely not lmao
@@gabrieldossantos1116 Dragon ball character have never destroyed a planet with pure physical strength. Only using Ki to destroy the core which any living being can do they dont need a strong power level..
@@kokozweeb both of them are trash, the other guy is really dick rider naruto characters.
Just one small point from someone who studied physics at university.
It is actually physically IMPOSSIBLE to escape from within the event horizon of a black hole. Like, literally impossible, even if you can survive the acceleration which would string whole star systems into spaghetti (which Saitama probably could tbf) and even if you could propel yourself at any arbitrarily high velocity exceeding the speed of light (which is also not possible, but which Saitama probably can anyway), that still would not be enough to escape from a black hole. When you go beyond the event horizon, it is not a simple 'force' or gravity keeping you from pulling yourself out, it is the literal shape of the universe. The singularity bends spacetime in such a way that, once you pass the event horizon, all possible directions in space are TOWARDS the singularity. So even if you can move at a billion times the speed of light, there is no direction you can go which is 'away' from the singularity. Even a teleporter couldn't escape the event horizon for this very reason.
The only way to escape from the event horizon of a black hole is to never have gone in in the first place. Which... to be fair, Saitama may be able to accomplish if he has time travel. But assuming he can't jump back on his own timeline, then at the very least the event horizon of a black hole should keep him contained....
...maybe... or he'd just fart the universe into oblivion or something idk.
I wish fiction authors treated black holes and lightspeed like they actually work instead of ignoring physics to wank their characters' feats
@@spicymeatballs2thespicening”fiction”
tbh Saitama would probably accidentally yawn and eat the singularity or something, he basically has toon force on his side
I mean Saitama just breaks the laws of reality in general
Breathing in space as a normal human talking in a vacuum.
I feel like murata got tired of people debating whether saitama could beat such and such character, so he simply wrote the saitama vs garou fight lol
Nah he realized after the Garou fight that it would be hard to make another worthy opponent so he set up the final boss of the series, a god.
murata is not the author, one still does the writing
@@notlightbeam4889One is the author, and "god" was in the webcomic waaaay before the manga.🤦🏾♂️
I don’t think he really cares about it all that much, Saitama is a parody of over powered characters after all
@@engineergaming1669 Deconstruction, not parody.
Bro this is one of the most
Coughing Baby Vs Nuclear Bomb
level fights
I’ve really been enjoying binging your content! The Hunter X Hunter content is what got me hooked, but seeing all the multiple sources of fiction you talk about is always fun.
Hope to see more ❤
man i dont LMAO
how unfair do you want the fight to be?
him: yes
Keep up the good work my man, i found your channel because of your first garou vs goku, i cant believe i found your gem of a channel, easily my favorite scaler.
Saitama existed to be an invincible omnipotent being with no limits. no one can beat or even come close.
You'd need similarly jacked characters that aren't meant to be beaten
İn anime verses,yes but for example scp 3812 can
omnipotent means ability to do anything without bounds, saitama is just insanely and incomprehensibly strong, but not omnipotent
If true garou woulnt even be able to have matched him, its amazing all these silly headcannons people make up about saitama
@@emm6101
Go learn to read
Then go read the manga
Great video man! Always love how you make your power scaling easy to digest. Would love to see more invincible vids if you have any ideas for one. Keep up the good work!
Damn, a naked man crawling out of a goddamn black hole is something even the best of all heros would run away from
Saitama could solo the invincible verse 100x over before he even realizes he’s fighting someone
Fr recently he lifted 2 black holes
And is confirmed to be mftl
@@nobodynothing-ew5vvhow does one even do that?
Did he just magically gain enough mass to become an even denser black hole than release it or something?!
@@Aaa-vp6ughe just benches 2 of them on a chapter cover
Im not joking
@@livingbruhmoment5355 that makes even less sense
Guy who sneezed away a planet vs a guy who needed help to destroy a planet with his bare strength
Do we know how big the planet Viltrum is? Cause Jupiter is fucking massive
I would love to see an animation where Omni-man and Saitama are about to fight it out, when Omni-man gets zero-punched from the future, with Saitama completely baffled as to what just happened.
saitama is that kind of character that only comedy can support if you want a story that doesnt tear apart the fabric of the universe they are into
This. I laugh at people who say Goku wins. Popeye wins, but only because Saitama hasn't beaten One yet.
@@KopperNeomanI like this, but Popeye straight up speedblitzes Saitama before he can even think.
I don’t think Omni man could even take some of the S class heroes
blast would kick his ass
He'll be in trouble if he fights against Tatsumaki or Blast.
@@Redsword603 Also King.
only one for sure could kill him is Blast.
@@_M.... king has reality manipulating luck, that even if he dies Saitama will surely travel back in time and he'll be revived as a result. Tats could stand up to animated omniman, but not the comic's. Blast would put omniman through a warp gate and split him in half.
Omni Man would get so scarred by king that he would leave the planet assap
The king engine solos all verses!
@@arvintyree1109 and if it doesn’t king will use his Supreme Purgatorial Explosive Heat Wave-Motion Gun! (Saitama shows up out of nowhere)
I love how his voice kind of just cracks in disbelief when explaining how saitama broke inside a spiritual space that exists inside the costume of a monster
Like, that is one of the most WTF feats of the entire series
about that shockwave from Garou's + Saitama's punch. a lot of people tends to forget that it was narrowed down by going through Blast's gate (which was supported by his team)
nobody knows how much of the radius it would have been without Blast and his team's intervention
I mean the amount of energy didn't change, it was just redirected.
@@Golden_Projects the point is, a lot of these so called "power scalers" claimed that was the "feat". when it was just a circumstance that doesn't prove what they want to convince other people.
it's like comparing a lightbulb that can already illuminate the whole room but was redirected to a single point like a laser - now it doesn't illuminate the whole room anymore - then these "power scalers" were simply saying "iT wAs clEAr thAt iT dIdn't, sO iT cOUldn't."
@@bluebearie7230they don't have any data of it without blast's intervention that's why they claimed that was the feat
If you think about it, Saitama and Garo "destroying" those stars is much more impressive. The light disappears from the night sky all at the same time, meaning one of two things: 1) The fight had enough force to repel/redirect massless EM waves coming from that direction or, even more ridiculously, 2) the light had finished its journey through that region of space. In case 1, the force is comparable to a black hole. In case 2 though, light stopped being produced from all objects in that region, meaning the force of the fight was so great that it affected billions of years of time and annihilated the stars at the moment they happened to be traveling through that area.
How do you scale something like that??
multi-star. or less. foddertama can’t destroy a galaxy
-a snot nosed powerscaler
saitama could destroy a galaxy, if it attacked him first. @@영환김-f9x
That implies both that the force of their attack is restricted in movement by conventional limits like the speed of light, and that the speed of light itself functions in the same way it does in the real world, which I don’t believe ONE or Murata took into consideration when drawing the panel. Taking the feat at face value, the only logical conclusion that can be derived is that their attack was so great, that it annihilated millions of stars in an instant (which would be Multi-Solar).
@@arandomguywithastrawhat some of the dots seen on the sky are galaxies, so for the space to be completely empty, they'd need to have erased entire galaxies out of existence
@@Golden_Projects A fair assumption, but that would be a generous interpretation of what they did. The presence of galaxies is entirely possible, but to be as impartial and unbiased as possible, it is more reasonable to presume that all of the dots within that portion of space that they annihilated were stars. A compromise such as that would still situate them comfortably in the Multi-Solar System range- on the higher end of it, in fact, considering that there were likely thousands, if not MILLIONS of celestial bodies that were wiped from reality in what was ostensibly the blink of an eye.
You forgot to mention that Saitama is limitless, and he could always grow depending on his opponents. And I'm pretty sure, his speed also increases. So by saying Omni man is faster, Saitama will eventually get faster
its based on emotion tho
@@mikailsaga Where do he get those emotions then? Aren't it from his opponents? 😂 Like I said, if his opponents is greater than him in something, he will adjust himself to be greater
@@sidthixaychoummanivong5643I mean the only times it's 'mentioned' is whenever he gets pissed off, Geno's death and the Mosquito Incident being the two I recall. Other than that, Saitama is pretty Apathetic, even when fighting. Not even Boros could get him 'hyped up'.
So ironically, the limited boost only really comes into effect against someone like him. Someone more powerful? He'll die before it activates (I'm talking about people who could kill him in one or two shots, obviously), too weak and you get what I mentioned earlier.
I've mentioned this before but despite what people might say, Goku and Saitama would be perfect for one another, as they both scale to their opponents, and hold back if their opponent is weaker than them, granting the other the chance to catch up. The one flaw is Goku's is much slower than Saitama's, but that doesn't mean they can't battle or become friends.
Just something to think about
@@ForgottenFafnir But I don't think Omni man could even make Saitama feel anything with a punch or two here blud 😂 Saitama actually isn't that furious when he fought Garou in outer space, he only furious when he first saw what Garou did to Genos, obviously he literally smiled when he fought Garou in Jupiter's moon. So, it still didn't change the fact that his power will always grow, and stated multiple times in the manga that he doesn't feel pain or get hurt at all.
@@ForgottenFafnir i was thinking that because saitama is longing for a fight that will put him on edge, then on the brink of death, I'm sure he'll have extreme enough emotions to "activate" this power up you're talking about. or like, when he somehow senses this opponent's overwhelming power? very interesting either way, if this ever really was the condition for him to start getting stronger. this must mean that to successfully defeat saitama, you'd need an absolute force to kill him in one hit instantaneously. an assassination, if you will.
I’ve been waiting for this one for a minute! I think Omni man would put up a fight similar to released Boros.
now I'm curious about boros vs omni-man.
@@ProjektTaku Battle Beast fits more, even if he's more likely to win than Nolan would be
@@No-OneSpecial000 Where?
Except Saitama on IO was a billion times stronger than he was against Borus 🤣
@@TheSanien Saitama went back in time after that. Ever since, he never actually tried during a fight ever since Boros and maybe Garou
"I'll give you a 90% off coupon to fuck off." "Bet."
An alternative and a more in character fight for Saitama is that he defeats Omni-man at the very beginning with 1 punch without resistance because unlike Boros, he can't completely revive himself from mere fragments of his body
yeah, Omni-Man doesn't have the durability.
Yes, he does. Vitrumites are almost like Kyptonians but only use their fists, plus they can survive fatal injuries plus they read their opponents
@@bigdaddydudely2002except unlike Kryptonians, they don't have a "only this one thing can injure me," they can get hurt by just physical attacks. And even if they can survive being near death, they don't have regeneration to keep fighting through it
@@KaseyC.well, Kryptonians can be hurt by other means. Just you have to crank them to silly stats squared first.
@@Aaa-vp6ug yeah but my point was just that Viltrumites don't need that much to hurt them by comparison. Just comparing Viltrumites to Kryptonians is laughable
Saitama is a literal GOD.
what is this...
He said Saitama would beat him in one hit
@@lucasbroome1048 I think he meant that it wasn't necessary to make a video about this fight since the outcome was pretty obvious
Not confirmed = invalid source
@@tabahigamersuperlol its confirmed pretty much if you use your brain
@@ImHereCookin nope its not confirmed, it was never stated he wads GOD himself, obv there are references like in his fitness tests it was stated i was like god resided that body and stuff, but no real confimation as far
Since you made this video , now I wanna see The truly invincible duo : the mosquito and the cat vs Saitama
You need someone like The Mask or Popeye to even compete with Saitama. Saitama can take on the entire species of Viltrumites at once and still win with ease.
he cant beat toon force. as toon f0rce is just whatever they want it to be. As shown with death battles fight
@@nathancooper4684 death battle is wrong on a lot of stuff but saitama has a little bit of toon force himself
@@DavelexH true but not nearly on the same level as Popeye
@nathancooper4684 yeah I see a lot of ppl act like he only has strength which is clearly not true but Def not as much as popeye
You need to remember. He beat somebody copying his power WITH ONE HAND. Garou said that throughout the fight saitama was doing nothing but getting stronger
Could Saitama, who with one punch darkened every star in one direction, kill the guy who supposedly caught a Texas sized meteor once?
Hmmmmmmm
This is a hard one guys.
That is just becoming lame and dull now. The Texas sized meteor garbage is irrelevant nonsense that brainless fools want to use just to say: "Omni-man wins, I'm right, you're wrong!" Like grow up dude, seriously! 😒🙄😐
Btw, 🤡 the same guy who caught a Texas sized meteor nearly got clapped by dollar store JL.
Tell me how Blast, Boros, and Tatsumaki aren't dominating the verse 💀 The Five Dollar and below Justice League hurt him and the top tier S-class heroes are wayyy better than that
@@SamsungS23Ultr People who keep mentioning the Texas meteor are losers.
@@Khalfrankpeople who call other people losers tend to be very
loser-esque
Thanks for the video, Tobi. You are truly the greatest member of the Akatsuki.
Ye if we’re being frank saitama would slam omniman most likely accidentally there’s simply no way for omniman to bypass Saitama’s quite ridiculous haxx
Saitama may not be a gag character but is as close to that as possible. It’s likely we have never seen how powerful he is yet.
Maybe bugs bunny.
@@yoannmarchesse988 exactly. Only joke characters or time travellers (who kill Saitama before he trains) or reality benders can even hope to compete with Saitama.
We have quite literally seen him at his strongest, multiple times.
@@jarlbalgruuf2415 when?
@@DavelexH always considering he's always getting stronger. In his fight against Garou we even get a bar for it.
Saitama sneezed and nearly destroyed Jupiter 😑. It's also confirmed that Saitama constantly grows stronger the more he fights. At the beginning of the fight with garou, garou was stronger. It was stated Saitama grew stronger than him in just a few minutes or even seconds. Saitama solos the verse.
Lmao Garou was never stronger than him😂😂
Nah garou was more "equal" than stronger.
@Qlirim No, Cosmic Garou was stronger than Saitama at the beginning if that encounter. They may have had equal stats, but Garou knew how to use them in a fight, as well as having intent to kill. When it comes to equal stats, whoever is the better fighter is the stronger one.
You guys need to re-read the manga lol. Saitama was literally fighting with only one hand the whole time against Garou not to mention he didnt get damaged at the slightest. Saitama had the upper hand all the time lol. Also if you mention the argument when their power escalates you might have misunderstood it. It shows them at the same pace but not as their true power. Like Saitama was way stronger than Garou even then but when they escalated their power it wasnt actually their power but it was who was growing faster and not saying they were at the equal terms.
Saitama grows stronger even without fighting/ training. He has exponential growth when facing powerful enemies.
Since I have been part of both TV shows it's hard to argue but I know that you're underestimating Omni men then again you did a great job describing them in a lot of ways better than most Invincible is just very complicated
This should probably be renamed "How long till Saitama wipes out the entire Viltrumite Race."
While I get that it’s to give him a fighting chance, Omniman’s MFTL speeds are only relevant in travel, and are virtually useless in a fight.
Most Invincible characters, Omniman included, get their MFTL speeds from Smart Atoms, which warp and compress space around them as they fly. This space warping grows exponentially overtime until they reach those MFTL speeds, and it takes a long time for Viltrumites to get anywhere close to them. As such, most Invincible characters only have Relativistic combat speeds and reactions, which is how Omniman struggles to fight characters going far below light speed (the Guardians and Hail Mary), and why he couldn’t just instantly cross the country to find Mark after his cover was blown.
In comparison, most OPM characters’ combat speeds, Saitama included, are virtually the same as their travel speed, with no acceleration needed. Omniman would need to build up speed for a while to even compare to characters like Platinum Sperm and Awakened Garou (pre-Cosmic), much less Saitama.
TL;DR, Omniman vs. Saitama plays out the same way Genos vs Saitama did.
Another thing that nerfs Omni-man's speed is that his verse respects physics a little bit more than OPM, he cannot fly too fast inside an atmosphere or else the entire planet's surface would combust, as seen when he wiped out the alien invaders' planet.
Though because of that, I think it would be fair to have Omni-man fight Saitama in the OPM verse.
@@Dexuz yeah but if that happened they would need to be on an uninhibited planet identical to earth
Great video!
Read both Invincible and One punch man (at least all of released manga) - love them both
Saitama is obviously one of the most powerful entities in the most fictional universes. But he’s made like that specifically by his author. It’s the irony of being the strongest, but at the same time bored (like when you playing a video game with cheats) and unnoticed
14:58 when he says " and it will be over in one punch " I was thinking of the song that Divide Music made.
All it takes is one.
Saitama has no known limits and Omniman just has insanely high limits.
saitama's power is limit breaking so uh idk man
@@RealThermitetbh he grows infinitely as he fights unlike goku who has to break his limits each time
We are surprised at what saitama is shown to be able to do but, i am more frightened in what saitama could do that hasnt been shown to us
This video would be much shorter, and yet pretty much just as accurate if you went through all of Omni Man's stats and abilities, then turned to Saitama and said, "And this guy can take Omni Man out in one punch." Roll the credits.
Don't even think he would get excited for this match
I think the only legitimate way to defeat Saitama, before he escalates in power to the point of assured victory, is to defeat him in a single blow at the beginning of the fight. Otherwise, he's given time to get stronger and exponentially so. The One-Punch Man must be One-Punched.
Which is almost impossible because he has never taken a single damage from anyone in his entire life after his training😀
Well, in that case omni man would probably could never do that
@@arpel1472 No limit fallacy
@@danchiziofficial2159 Saitama is said to have no limits lol
@@danchiziofficial2159 in Saitama's case, its not a fallacy. Because the entire reason he is so strong in the first place is that he trained so hard he broke the limit of how strong he was supposed to be able to get. He literally trained so hard he broke the rules of the universe and has no limit anymore as a result. And while his power at any given moment isnt infinite, if faced with an actual challenge he will get stronger and stronger even as the fight proceeds, with no ceiling. just read up his fight with garo, it fully shows how Saitama's power can evolve. oh also its implied his power doesnt usually go back DOWN after growing, it took time travel to reset his power to a pre-garo state where he wouldnt risk accidentally blowing up the world with a sneeze.
Hydrogen Bomb
v.s.
Coughing Baby
So I don't know if anyone's brought this up before (or if this is just the main way of looking at it) but the "blowing away the stars" thing looks more like Saitama and Garou warped gravity enough to turn the light of all those stars away from earth - which, don't get me wrong, is terrifyingly impressive (partly because recent science suggests this could CREATE MATTER), but it's nothing on actually destroying millions of stars
they actually destroyed the stars, another panel was shown with a more distinctive perspective and stars were indeed shown destroyed
I am SO GLAD you pointed out the sneeze...this makes no sense to other universes.
(personal theory) I believe that Saitama's body adapts to and increases his abilities far in excess of whatever force/threat he is facing. And remains at that level until a force stronger than the previous one presents itself. I am not even sure if he is consciously aware of that possibility, his physical power just keeps increasing. But on some level of his consciousness he keeps that power definitively under control, because if he didn't every step he takes would be destructive AF. For example World Breaker Hulks power reaching levels that one step taken could have sank the eastern seaboard. Eh, this is just a theory from someone typing on a keyboard as the Adderall and coffee caffeine combo kicked in.
yeah, saitamas "power" seems to be that his power is limitless, and scales exponentially when even faced with a mildly strong opponend.
Think goku, who fights and almost dies, then gets strong enough to beat his opponent- Saitama's power scales like that, but much, much faster and much higher.
Personal theory = baseless headcanon
Saitama and Garou's combined punch destroyed quintillions of galaxies.
Wait till anime. People keep downplaying to Multi solar and "Solar system" feats.
saitama's punch squared shockwave was surpressed by blast and friends.
it wasn't suppressed it was redirected and teleported into outer space
No, it was suppressed By Blast Himself while thinking to redirect it at least far away from Earth and then His Team Came out to help him
@@Sasqe it was surpressed, bozo, even if he redirected it, the blast would've literally destroyed the earth regardless, as he only managed to get the blast above the stratosphere, moron.
@@Sasqe he said it himself in the panel: he may not have been able to do it on his own, as the shockwave alone from trying to teleport it was too much, he literally got flinged away like a bug on someone's shoulder in zero gravity, no less.
@@Trolololol123 i know i'm just stating the factual general synopsis/breaking it down as lay man as i possibly can. so there would be no misunderstandings.
This was a very good video
Keep up the good work
By looking at Saitama's fight with Garou it's clear that Saitama has no limit and instantly grows multiple times as strong as whoever he's fighting or is simply has infinite power and punches his opponent 10 times as hard as they punched him.
If it's the first one then he could lose to an opponent that is insanely above is current level if they used an attack strong enough to instantly kill him otherwise he would simply outgrow them instantly.
It was stated that is the first answer
@realimassimiliano4748 this why saitama beats goku unless goku speedblitzes and kills him which he won't cuz saitama isn't evil hee doomed by how fast saitama grows
@@jonathanbenoit-mj9cv this is not entirely true goku could howewer use a attack enough strong to knock out Saitama without killing him and from a death battle perspective the winner is howewer goku
@realimassimiliano4748 well saitama grows depending on how strong opponent is but it could go eitherway
@@realimassimiliano4748 death battle- goku wins
realistic battle- saitama wins, cus goku would just let him get stronger and would get quickly out grown.
I think deku vs homelander would be a cool fight because I believe it wold be a pretty even fight and because of the differing ideologies when it comes to being a hero.
Deku might try to spare homelander but homelander might just want to straight up kill him
To me, at least, any numbers pertaining to Saitama are useless. People keep wondering what his limit is, but that’s the thing. He has no limit. However strong you think he may be, multiply that by an infinite amount.
The reason we’ve seen strong enemies like Boros survive his punches was because Saitama wasn’t even trying. He never tries because he doesn’t need to. His strength is infinite, and no matter what enemy he faces, they will all end with a single punch.
For real. Boros was reduced to paste by Saitama's punch... and only survives because he's able to reconstitute himself. An amazing ability to be sure but one that clearly had a limit. He couldn't keep doing it.
@@trustmeits610pm2 He had to think of the planet too. If it wasn't about earth then Saitama could've easily punched hard enough that he couldn't recover. Though I know that Saitama always gives a chance to his opponents to show their power and never one shots then from the start if they can comprehend a punch from him.
@@trustmeits610pm2 and saitama didn't even hit him it never made contact it was from the shockwave
11:33 I can get behind pronouncing nuclear as nucular, BUT PRONOUCNING EPITOME THAT WAY IS UNFORGIVABLE. I still love the vid tho lol.
Epi tome is the dumbest thing I've heard
The only way to "beat" saitama is doing it in a funny way it seems.
From a seemingly godly mosquito, to losing in videogames despite his insane reaction speeds, things like that. Just make it funny and Saitama is suddenly unable to escape the gag moment.
Finally an intellectual and realistic scaling of Saitama's powers.
Omni Man: You are weaker than me you inferior human!
Saitama: Serious Wink
*Gets a heart attack*
Broo im subscribing you take this to the next level.
Omni Man at max is probably star level,but Saitama casually is multi solar system level+.Hell his Jupiter feat can get to either dwarf star level or star level I think.
He is not star level. Thragg isn’t even star level let alone Omni man
@@slamyourheadin9449 I’m trying wrap my head around how Omni man got to star level. When he with 3 others could have died doing a planet busting feat. His son and thragg were getting cooked by a star so they definitely can’t survive around one so they cannot manage that level of energy let alone muster up enough to destroy one. Saitama accidentally sneezed a massive portion of Jupiter away. I say this again he sneezed and did that. His sneeze would obliterate earth
@@Marshkoonby the feat of viltrum, since that planet is not a regular one, because it can takes blasts from the infinity ray that can 1 shot stars, and viltrum just desestabalize in light speed levels, it would estabalize in a instant if it wast for the 3 viltrumites
Saitama at this current point in the manga is leagues above anything any of the invisible characters have ever done and even where he's at in the anime has already surpassed them
Bro so clean you have my sub
Finally someone who recognizes saitamas speed
Tbh I'm pretty sure anyone who has read the Cosmic Garou vs Saitama manga or watched the fan animation of it which is directly from the manga would know, since Saitama's fart propelled him to Garou at light speed or even surpassing that.
@@sovietunion4875 nah there are a lot of scalers who downplay him
The fact that Saitama can adapt and improve unbelievably rapidly wins him this fight, even if Omni Man was somehow stronger than him at the start.
Saitama learnt the epitome of martial arts that required full understanding of martial arts and the flow of energy/matter in the universe to create, in like a second. Saitama IS a fighting genius, he just never needs to show it cus he can just brute-force his way through any fight.
@@Golden_Projects he's also been able to dodge insane attacks with his flexibility and skill
I find curious how Omni man is so strong to pierce a planet and yet some robot zombies were able to damage him a lot
AP. Attack Potency.
just looked at your channel and hell u have some great ideas i rlly loved the garou vs The seven/ the saiyans vs s class heros these ideas are really good keep em up
And underrated but a real one for blurring out the spoilers lol.
Am I the only person who has a really hard time accepting that speed calculation for Omni-man?
The dude regularly gets tagged by opponents who are unquestionably moving at sublight if not subsonic speeds. Him moving between galaxies at 3.2 billion times light speed seems extremely inconsistent with how he's usually portrayed moving in hand-to-hand combat. I would have assumed that he must be using some kind of special technique to move between galaxies that is only accessible in deep space or is somehow impractical in combat. It just seems weird that he almost never actually uses even a tiny fraction of his apparent top speed.
There’s 2 explanations if you accept the calculation(some guides made the calculations contentious but I was highballing for video sake):
One, anyone who scales to Omni Man can fight at those speeds, or witbin a decent degree of those speeds. It’s a fictional universe, a “peak human” can be 827281928 times light speed if the writer makes it that way.
Two, it’s stated several times that Omni Man and the other characters are heavily suppressed against “street level” villains or when fighting close to a planet, which is why most top tier fights in the comics occur in space or when they happen on earth they cause cataclysmic damage
Saitama sweep 😈😈
@professorfiction9823 either of explanations still cause all kinds of weird fridge logic though.
Like, if everyone is just always fighting at billions of times light speed because that's normal in this fictional universe, then how are normal people able to follow and record their movements? How can they talk to and see each others movements while fighting? How are they not igniting the atmosphere from friction and creating hurricanes when they move?
If he's suppressing his own speed normally, then it seems like he should still easily be able to avoid all attacks from slow opponents. You said his reflexes are equal to his movement speed, so shouldn't he perceive most everyone to be moving in slow motion and basically have permanent bullet time? Or is he also suppressing his own reflexes?
@@AlteredNova04 Invincible characters sometimes have to move as fast as light to see and perceive as fast as light. This happens in real life (to an extent) of fast traveling space ships/shuttles
You have to suspend your sense of disbelief for any medium of fiction. Invincible have blatant hypersonic feats and statements even for the lower tier characters which would be so fast no normal human should be able to track it already. It doesn’t really make sense no matter how you chalk it up. Same goes for opm.
It’s a fictional world, those normal humans probably aren’t “normal” by our human standards more than likely
no matter what happens against saitama he will always adapt when he gets excited and win