Nathan, here's some stuff for ya. The Iowas almost got the 16"/50 Mk2 guns that had originally been made (71 barrels and forgings) for a canceled class of (1916) battleships that were casualties of the Washington Naval Treaty. But when one design authority changed the size of the turret barbettes without telling the other, the Mk2s wouldn't fit. So a new gun had to be designed, the Mk7, with very minor changes in dimensions, yet better performing than the earlier 16"/50s. The best I can make out, so far, is that those stored (since 1922) Mk2s were gonna be utilized in the 'Montana' class, but that's only my impression.
The procedure was officially known as Barrel Readjustment Internal Sleeve or BRIS and was performed by a Military Ordinance High Explosive Lathe technician or MOHEL.
I just read in the book, "Battleship Commander" by Paul Stillwell that one of the barrels of South Dakota was found to have a crack in it after the Second Battle of Guadalcanal. It was removed and tested at a firing range in Idaho and blew itself to pieces with a reduced charge.
Ryan, the strangest duty that I have actually seen, and nearly had to do was to stand guard in front of a port-a-potty and ensure that no one had a writing instrument on them, and if they did we had to hold it for that person while they used the port-a-potty. This was due to our Brigade Command Sergeant Major seeing some inappropriate graffiti on the port-a-potties. One platoon from my battalions HHC, our MP platoon set up a full blown Etry Control point, with triple strand constantina wire, two gun trucks.
Lol. Just another day in the ridiculous Army. Someone broke a window in one of our trucks and the whole Battalion did motor stables guard for 4 months on a rotation basis along with staff duty nco and runner . Idiocy.
I just got my first car registered; I got to choose the style of plates, too, and I asked for Battleship New Jersey plates. $50 up front, and $10 every time I renew my car's registration. I'm happy to be supporting the Battleship in a more permanent way. As an added bonus, the plates look fantastic on my car.
On the Lexington back in 61-64, as a Signalman, one of my jobs was making and repairing signal flags. I had a medium duty Singer sewing machine in an old 20MM belting room as "bunting repair". One pennant not in the supply system was the PUC or Presidential Unit Citation. I made the ones for the Lady Lex. She had two, so I sewed in a blue star showing a second award. I also repaired a ton of Foxtrot (F) flags, which flies during all day air ops. I also made a 25 by 19 Jolly Roger for when we crossed the equator and later flew it in Aransass Pass, Texas (near Pasadena) for some celebration there.
I remember when they replaced center barrel turret 2 in the yards at Long Beach. They used Herman the German floating crane. If I remember correctly it took 2 weeks. Rumors were they called back a retired shipyard worker from the east coast who had experience changing out a 16inch barrel.
I think Herman the German is living at Panama Canal now, he was sold off and shipped off.....I remember seeing the Missouri in the Harbor there back in 87-88....it was majestic.....cheers,,,
They called back a lot of ex-battleship workers and sailors... Worked on the Jersey May '82 to Jan. '83; Missouri, Oct.84 to Jan. '85, with a seven day gun shoot sea trial, to boot!
@@adrianpasillas3832 What did the ship feel like when the 16's went off? Did you feel the ship recoil? Was there anyplace where you wouldn't notice? (I suspect not). Was there any warning onboard that it was about to happen?
Weirdest job: For me, as a Marine, I was constantly on KP. Every dang time i was on ship. Right to KP. But I will tell you, as a veteran of KP duty, there are ways to game the system. Get assigned to the ward room. (80 people rather than 2000), and if you are REALLY smart, volunteer for the Captains Galley. (1 person rather than 80) On Captain's mess, you ate what he ate, and you worked the hours he worked.. This meant that you got up late, and knocked off early.. (and had a steak for lunch). So, eating steak and lobster for lunch, and kicking back at 14:30 was the "weirdest" job for me as a Marine, assigned to ships KP duty... Semper Fi to my fellow Marines that served either ships company, or KP (or both, like me).
As a Marine, I went for Ships Laundry. Worked nights instead of being warehoused in the lower decks. Got MidRats. Did not have to get up for Reville in the morning. The best... On Liberty... we had to wear Class C's. If you uniform was not up to snuff... you didn't get off the ship. Paid off well having access to the laundry when on liberty in Sydney..... I had a clean and pressed liberty uniform each day.
I have read that replacing the center gun barrel of Turret # 2 was difficult as breaking it loose was a problem but they were eventually successful. When I visited the Heavy Cruiser Salem last November I asked Dr. John Scholes what the square protrusions on each 8" gun barrel were for as the 16" guns do not have these. He told me that they were attachment points for an outside Milling machine to trim protruding gun liners. Perhaps Ryan could verify this with Dr. Scholes and do an in depth video in the future on this subject.
Would make sense. The previous Baltimore and I think later treaty cruisers used 8"/55 from the same rifle generation as the 16"/50 rifles. Salem used the Mk 16 8"/55 which to the best of my knowledge were the only naval rifles of that generation. Had Montana launched she likely would have had a similar feature for her rifles if they didnt use the stock of existing 16"/50 barrels in storage.
Some artillery I have seen are a smooth sleeve the gun rests in and is held in place by large pins, others the breech portion screws into the barrel remaining attached to the mount. I suspect it is the screw on type but that is just an educated guess.
@@Colonel_Overkill I think I read somewhere that the 55 Cal barrels on 16" guns drooped too much and were found to be less accurate than 50 Cal guns. If you go back you might find that the "Mk 16" was a model of the gun they were writing about and that the Navy had no plans to build a 16" 55 Cal gun and that the Montana was to have the same 16" 50 Cal guns that the Iowa's had--just 4 turrets of them.
Regarding strange jobs: I have read a witness report from a sailor on Tirpitz. He was constantly replacing light bulbs throughout the ship. They had so many and the firing caused enough to cease functioning that it seems to have been a constant source of occupation for one person.
I remember an interview on a carrier in the Persian Gulf during the invasion of Iraq. The person they were interviewing had the job of filling the vending machines. Here's a major ship of war launching air strikes around the clock, and this persons job on it was filling vending machines, about as far removed as one could get for work.
Thanks for the information! My dad was a ship fitter for the navy at pearl during the war. He mentioned having to trim the big guns when they came back from a battle. This is the first other report I have seen
The sleeve slipping forward during firing totally makes sense. What doesn’t make sense to me is how they were able to build up theses barrels. I have watched a few older videos on the process, but will never understand it. Thank you again for your continued fantastic content. Many museum ships owe you a great deal of credit for raising awareness to their existence, and the need and effort and funding it takes to preserve them. All the best sir.
For those wondering: Freeze the sleeve you are trying to slip into the barrel, heat up barrel you are trying to slip the sleeve into Cold shrinks the sleeve, hot expands the barrel. When they cool down and warm up, they aren't coming apart.
It's not a case of the sleeve slipping so much as it is the sleeve lengthening from the heat/pressure of the gun being fired and the shell expanding (obturating) to grip the rifling as it travels down the barrel. A common misconception.
@@flick22601 There was, in the '90s Washington Navy Yard, a spare piece of the armor used on Yamato/Musashi, that had been "tested" with 16"-50 AP, likely at Dahlgren. Nice clean hole in that big block of steel.
The expanding to grip the rifling is called obturation for those of you that like fancy words. Obturation is also when a rifle casing expands to seal the chamber to prevent blow by.
I bought my previous home from a gentleman who was a "sailmaker" on an Iowa-class battleship in WWII. (I forget which battleship.) I asked him what a sailmaker does on a modern ship. He said that, among other things, they sewed the body bags.
All this info about the Ships of the Line. I was on board the USS Merrick AKA-97 - 1958 - 1961 and our task was to take supplies of all sorts from Port of Long Beach to everywhere we had military in the Far East. I was a FT - Gun Fire Control - and more than once the ship 'requested' my presence at the Fire Control computer so we could get an accurate distance to navigate into bays or rivers that were a 'tight squeeze' - the regular radar wasn't that precise. Mine was within 3 feet at 1000 feet. I did a lot of tuning to get it that close. Quite an experience.
"Circumstance.." I see what you did there. I remember seeing a bunch of these tubes outside behind a warehouse at Subic Bay Navel Station. Pretty awesome.
All jokes aside, just the fact that over time this type of wear issue occurred, was discovered and diagnosed, and that tool was designed to serve the function of correcting the issue is pretty interesting. That it was still in the ship is a bonus. Any idea when it may have actually last been used?
Given how the barrel was built, its not to surprising, and most likely a issue the engineers foresaw before this barrel type was put into service, since the rifled liner was just a press fit. Odds are the last time this tool was used was somewhere around 1953, since the turrets were re-barreled after the Korean Conflict. From there, they'd introduced an additive during New Jersey's Vietnam commission that greatly extended the barrel life. A better additive was developed during the 1980's commission, mostly to address the reduced velocity of the aging powder, but was also found to have the effect of further extending barrel life. Cant remember the exact number he mentioned, they have an entire video on this, but I think it was thousands of shells before they liners wore out again. So yeah, maybe 1953, possibly right after the Vietnam or right before the 1980's commission.
@@sparkplug1018 The liner erosion was so reduced that the Navy changed how they expressed the life of the barrels to reflect that the mechanical forces from firing would wear out the barrels before the liner would need replaced.
Ryan, I was incharge of Mt 51 upper handling room and Mag. during GQ. while shooting off the Coast of Vietnam 1973, I was a Mess Cook for the Chief's when not shooting. Even after the war and getting a real job as the Barber/Ship Store operator. My GQ duty was still the same.
Weirdest job I had in the Navy was working on submarine sonar. I was the smallest guy. At that time I might have weighed 115. So, I was the one who could fit through the open valve into a ballast tank. Then squirm through the goop “Whale Sh-“ is what we called it. And change out the hydrophones. They always picked January in Norfolk to fail, and that had to be the coldest nastiest water. As far as gun barrels… we stopped in Oakland and there were three of them laying in the grass on base. Not on display , just laying there at the supply depot. That was 1978. Thanks, Steve H
I think one of the strangest tasks was the Artwork Recovery which the movie Monument Men is based from. also the unit who was tasked with faking troop movements by using inflatable tanks and record players that pumped out sounds of tank tread movements etc. Also, being a body double must have been very strange
During my time with the 82nd at Fort Bragg, you'd spend a couple days every year doing "post clean-up." This entailed you and all of the lower-enlisted guys from the unit getting into the back of a truck, getting dropped off in the middle of nowhere, and doing "hands across" the woods, looking for and picking up trash. I still don't understand the purpose of this, but we did find trash and litter in some really out of the way places. Anyways, one year while doing post clean-up, we were instructed to get on the back of a 6x6 LMTV truck to move to another area to do post clean-up. This second area was kinda soupy and rough, like a lot of Ft Bragg, but our driver got us through it okay. Another truck driver... not so much. The reason the area was soupy was because it was a drained lake. That particular driver, seeing grass growing, assumed the ground was dry and solid. Nope! Got a 6x6 LMTV truck with 42" tires stuck in mud, up to the axles. This was on a Friday afternoon. So a bunch of guys from Echo company (our logistics and support company) had to stand watch on this stuck truck all weekend until it could be recovered on Monday. Poor bastards. 😂
I had a friend who joined the Navy and wanted to go into computers. He did not do well on a couple of tests so they made him a plumber. Apparently, Navy plumbers are not like normal plumbers. He got really good at welding different types on metal pipes. When he got out, he worked for BP in Washington State laying and maintaining petroleum pipelines. He made really good money.
I didn’t have a weird job in the Navy but I thought my uncle did. When I went on a tour of the USS America (CV-66), it was a wonderland. Aircraft everywhere on this giant ship - fascinating. Right up until he took me to his work station. He was an SH - Ship Serviceman. He ran a store on the ship. Basically sold cigarettes, soft drinks, laundry items and was one of the postal clerks. Man, was I disappointed. I thought everyone had a cool job.
The USS America (CV 66) was my first ship after boot camp in 1974. Quite the experience. Spent 3 years on it and still could not find some spaces on it.
I saw crew on an Arleigh Burke DDG transferring palletized stores by hand, from a pallet jack on the weather deck to a pallet jack in the forward superstructure, because the door had a +/- 6 inch lip at the bottom.
As a recruit at GLAKES in 1970, one of our middle weeks of training was a break called "Service Week". That's when the recruits did all the work to run the camp. I think it was also the first week we were allowed to wear our white hats - it had been wool stocking, or blue cap covers before that. There was a wide range of assignments - galley - especially bakery - was considered the worst, because you started work in the middle of the night. Naturally, there was a hierarchy, even for recruits - and the leadership cadre got the best jobs. As a platoon leader, my job was to handle admin duties in the camp HDQTRS - hanging out with some buddies in a basement office, typing up letters to families of new recruits, assuring them the Navy would take good care of their sons and daughters. This was a choice, cakewalk job - coking and smoking, scuttlebutting all day until a new crop of recruits arrived, wearing a white walking belt (no double-timing required), and having our chow brought to us every day. I was really sorry when it ended, LOL.
I would like to request that you get a list of all of New Jersey's divisions and point that out as you go through different compartments. I've noticed a lot of S-2 Division. That is the division that handles cooking on all ships. I see that in all of the wardroom spaces. On the carriers, there is an S-5 Division. That is the Stewards. They are responsible for cleaning all of the officer's berthing and wardrooms. I guess New Jersey didn't have a separate division for the stewards. Thank you. 😊
Hi Ryan, on small arm rifles, the tool is called a muzzle crowning tool, and it did what you describe for the 50 cal barrels. My 45 cal black powder rifle accuracy improved immensely after I recrowned the barrel, as the original work was damaged.
Best lines from that movie "they're firing at us! Those are just 5 inch star bursts, they don't have anything that can hurt us!" And "Gunners mate, you see those? We still have ammo for those" But to answer the question, there's a lot of jobs in the military no one really thinks about, everyone thinks about the combat related jobs mostly. But, someone was cleaning all the heads on the ship on a regular basis, and someone was preparing the captains meals and uniforms.
...postal clerks, anchor & anchor chain maintenance, cleaning instruments, baking bread, dishwashers, cleaning windows, keeping written logs ( daily log entries had to be mundane), so many regular jobs...most folk only know what they see in movies.
@@tankman7711 Yeah that's true, people only really think about the combat related jobs, occasionally some of the support jobs like mechanics and stuff like that. But there's tons of other regular jobs that have to be done too.
my highschool rotc instructor was basically an airforce cable-guy, he spent his career just running phone, tv, power, and communications around the various military bases he was sent to, occasionally when something important landed like a command plane he had to run out and plug it into ground power and communications. like you said, not everybody is involved in combat
The Air Force probably has the largest ratio of non-combat to combat personnel of any armed force. For every pilot flying a fighter or bomber doing the actual front-line missions there are dozens of ground crew maintaining and fuelling the planes, working air traffic control, cooking, providing firefighting and rescue cover and so on.
The weirdest way I had to work on something that was "behind" a helo's instrument panel was to "lay" in the seat upside down. Had to do this a few times on H-2's and once an emergency wire repair on a H-1. Didn't want to be in that position for too long.
Sounds like when i had to work on wiring on my 924. Lay on your back on the floor/door sill. Put your head under the dash. Then flip your feet over the shoulders of the seat. Then insert yourself the last foot or so to see around the kick panel. Still one of the worst contorted positions ive had to be in.
@@Synergy7Studios being 6ft and it a small sports car changes it from not bad like with a truck or nornal car. To a pretty uncomfortable shoulder stand around the steering wheel and seat. Just to have the rest of your body bend the other way mid torso.
@@Synergy7Studios has a pronounced door sill so the floor is like 3 or 4 inches below the sill line. So if you are just poking under there for a fuse totally. Any sort of prolonged work though all your weight on that one spot hurts pretty good.
3:03 looks claustrophobic as hell .. also looks like the scene from Aliens with Bishop in the tube. Great video as always tho! Gotta bring the kids down there. Cheers from Morristown, NJ!
I Never knew this details since I saw this videos . I´m highly surprised about that fakts. What I did believe before was, if a Barrel is thorn out the hole Barrel was to remove. Ryan,..I really thank you for all the videos I have seen so fare. My horizont and understanding of all the Details is ingreased dramatikly. Many Thanks for that.
So I heard you mention coming out of Long Beach Naval shipyard in 1984. I joined the Navy in February 1984. I reported to the USS Merrill DD976 at Long Beach Naval Station. We were berthed across from the jersey. Our kitchen was shut down for repairs so we ate on the jersey. I really thought the battleship thing was quite something. So much so I put in for a transfer. I was a non-rate fireman. I was told that the sailors for the battleship were only handpicked. Anyway I did my day I got out as a GSM3 .
Weirdest jobs in my 20 years... Needle gunning and grinding and painting the inside of an avgas tank on the USS Coral Sea, cleaning and refurbishing the inside of CHT tanks on several other ships, cleaning out the main condensers on 4 different ships, inspecting and cleaning the sumps on the reduction gears on an AOE, which had two of the engine sets from the USS Kentucky. Of course I did my time as "mess crank"... and many other "working party" jobs over the years. One of my favorite jobs was working for E division on climbing the masts and changing light bulbs etc... PMS was always a chore for everyone and on some ships Engineering Dept. used folks from every division to get the job done. Crawling bilges was one of my least favorite chores.
Wow! Did you have to wear PPE like a respirator while in the CHT or AVGAS tanks? Was it stupid hot or did being below the water line make it comfortable? Did you ever see tools or grafiti left by the builders?
avgas tank - enclosed room - makes me think : something like a fresh air mask ? Nowadays it is basically forbidden (even in the US ?) to work in a enclosed tank like that due to shortage of oxygene forbidden to only use a gas mask with filters.
@@TheStefanskoglund1 This was done during drydock period, Full Tyvek over suit with airline hose masks. Full freshwater showers setup near access/egress area. We sweated gallons of sweat. Each man had only 30 minutes of work time.
@@paulloveless9180 AVGAS tank: This was done during drydock period, Full Tyvek over suit with airline hose masks. Full freshwater showers setup near access/egress area. We sweated gallons of sweat. Each man had only 30 minutes of work time. CHT cleaning was in-port during workups for deployment, similar setup as the avgas tank. That reminded me, on the Coral Sea we opened a void tank and found 1/2 ton of Korean War dated cases of rations. The Lucky Strike cigarettes in them were so desiccated, that when lit they just burned up like a road flare. Some of the food stuffs were still edible. Then the MAA shut that down fast. No one got sick as far as I know.
@@randallparker8477 ok the big risk is oxygen deprivation because the tank (i expect) doesnt have any openable bottom valve so any gases heavier than air wont disappear easily. AVGAS fumes is one risk though they can be ventilated away (basically have something which forces normal air down into the tank and let it run for a few days.)
Around 10 yrs ago I drove past Fallon NAS in Nevada. They had a few Barrels laying out near one of the bunkers. Not sure if they were the 16"50s but they were pretty damn big.
In the 70's the USN ran recruitment ads with dialog like "Dawn on the flight deck". SNL ran parody ads with sailors up to their chests in black gunk with dialog like "Christmas eve in the bilges." In the WW2 book "Away All Boats" the most interesting character was the garbage grinder who had to collect and grind the ship's garbage prior to dumping it overboard so that Japanese subs would have a hard time tailing the fleet.
My friend had to go through the process of shell back or something like that. His day that day started out being rapped up in packaging materials and then some other stuff. He was fun and he got off of duty.
The weirdest job I did in the Air Force: I was a quality control person during a mobility exercise. I was tasked to babysit a B1B Bomber from 6pm to 6am, record any and all work performed during the exercise. The only problem was the first thing scheduled to be done on this aircraft wasn’t scheduled until 10am the next morning. Talk about a very long night of doing nothing other than staying awake! The second weirdest job was before an inspection I had to use liquid white shoe polish to touch up the white ceiling tiles to make everything look like new.
16 inch gun bore liner edge reamer! I have watched the movie Under Siege and in several scenes, the gun house look different in the movie than what I have seen in your videos - may have been a studio set.
When I served on several submarines and had lots of strange jobs one of them was compacting garbage and shooting it out the bottom of the submarine with 10,000 gallons of seawater.
Another great submarine sea story was the Ice Cream machine watch the captain likes root beer floats with vanilla ice cream one side was dedicated to vanilla the other side chocolate. One soda spigot had to be root beer one day the captain (academy guy) came into the crews mess to get his root beer float and both sides were chocolate plus no root beer it was all coke. So he made the chief MSC(SS) and the supply officer a LT establish and ice cream machine watch, they had to record in a log book the temperature, texture and color of the ice cream and confirm root beer is present. This went on for a few months at sea we pulled into Portsmouth UK for a mid patrol break and while on the maneuvering watch the topside Petty officer and sentry were issued their weapons and ammunition, we put them in front of the ice cream machine standing armed ice cream machine watch with 35 mm pictures we had blown up and posted in the ward room. The Captain was not to happy but couldn’t do much because the ice cream machine watch was not legal either. The good old days at sea on the Andrew Jackson SSBN 619 GOLD
Do a video about the potato peeler. I know on the Wisconsin there is a whole sign about how unauthorized personnel shouldn’t be operating the potato peeler.
I've operated a potato peeler. Not aboard ship, but when I had 3 months mess cook duty at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, Calif.* Here's the training film for the Hobart potato peeler: ruclips.net/video/DGOJtni8__8/видео.html * This was the BEST duty assignment I had in my entire Navy enlistment. I was assigned there right out of boot camp while waiting for the next Radarman "A" school to start at Treasure Island Naval Station. Except for that 3 month mess cook duty, I was assigned to Special Services, working as a pool cleaner, working at the base golf course (going around and servicing the ball cleaners), working at the base gym (supervising officers and enlisted while they were doing their calesthetics), and working in the Special Services office typing up reports (the Navy found out that I took a semester of typing in high school. At least they had IBM Selectrics rather than the old clunky standard typewriters.) I was stationed there for a total of 9 months.
@@ThomasKent1346 Thomas, you mentioned the IBM Seletric typewriter. That device modified was the input device for my first computer system in the Air Force. It was called 465L SACCS. That is SAC Automated Command and Control System. After my 8 month Tech School, I went TDY to Barksdale AFB, LA to attend the 6 week SAC Advanced Keyboard School. In that school I had to tear the thing down to the frame and put it all back together and HAVE IT WORK! In the field most of the problems were with the 6 logic cards that were part of the modifications to the keyboard. Most of the time, they worked perfectly. But when they did break, you had a lot of work to do to get it working again! Thanks for the memory!
Could you possibly show some of the items in that storage space and maybe others in another video if they are interesting? I was wondering what those steel items are in the background with the springs on them?
You make me laugh. OK. You don’t care. But these are hard times. You know that better than most. You still make me laugh kid. - being on the wrong end of these things doesn’t make me laugh. Didn’t think I could laugh about any of this. You did it. Thank you. -- In Vietnam men thought they would survive if the Navy chucked something inbound. That worked for an hour. Then it was back to eating dirt, digging for your life and praying they just went away. Not a story you see on TV or on the big screen. It’s just real. I’m thinking some kids in Ukraine pray they just go away. I knew some guys who could help with the go away part. -- You’re doing a good thing. Every kid in school should watch your channel.
Definitely the Fog Watch, during inclement weather at night, us in the Admin division got to stand watch on the bow, listening for other ship as to avert possible collisions.
It's similar to a tool called a ridge reamer, which is used to machine the sharp edges on a bore after it's been machined. They're commonly used in cylinders when rebuilding piston engines. A machinist might call it a facing tool, since this sort of operation on a lathe would be facing.
I've read an account about the USS Houston (CA-30) before it was lost in the Java Sea that the barrel liners of it's 8" guns were also creeping out of the barrels. Never knew there was equipment to deal with that.
I don't know if it was the _weirdest_ job, necessarily, but I have an uncle who was in the Coast Guard for a while, and he told me about what might have been the most _pointless_ job in the military, which was the time he was assigned to pull staples out of some preposterous number of multi-page documents and then restaple them with the staple diagonally across the corner instead of horizontal.
I had several extra duties in the Air Force and Army National Guard. The Air Force (I was a Staff Sergeant) Squadron Blood Drive Project Officer, and CPR Instructor. In the Guard, this former Blue Suiter after Iraq became Company Marksmanship NCO. All of them I had fun with. The dirtiest job was in Kuwait after leaving Iraq. We had to wash the undersides of all of our vehicles and trailers. The water was gross! We found stuff from 10 years of Camp Grayling and who know where else packed into the darndest places. All had to be removed to pass USDA inspection so they could be put on a ship and delivered back to us in Michigan.
Weirdest job I ever did in the navy was standing watch over the freshly poured concrete pathway to make sure nobody carved their initials in it. Best job I think I ever heard of was the sailors in WW2 who operated the ice cream barges in Ulithi lagoon. That was in a fascinating book about the pacific fleet logistics called Beans, Bullets, and Black Oil.
Hmmm, MASH: Falkeye to his friendly/favourite fixer: can you get ice cream to RADAR (RADAR had had an operation - removing swollen mandels ?) ? Fixer: That is hard ... i will speak to some of my friends in the Navy. 1 day later : a package of ICE-cream arrives in an Army hospital in the hills of Korea...... Feast for RADAR (and due to the amount the surgeons too.)
Ryan, odd duties for the newly reported BlueJackets that I have heard of: Mail buoy watch, deck hand detailed to engineering spaces to get some "relative bearing grease. What others do you know of? Also, a compendium of "newbee" pranks? The Sea Bat, etc. Really enjoy your channel. Tnx. Fair Winds, USN Ret.
There was also prop wash… my favorite and yes I fell for it was go get Frank. Hey we need Frank, he’s working in aft rudder control right now. Ok, 600 feet aft and five decks down. Hi kid, you just missed him, he’s on his way to the radio room. Ok , 700 feet forward and eight decks up. When I got there, the story was he was in the boiler room. That’s when I caught on. Oh, don’t ask for a BT punch either. Or fix the B-1-r-d up on the after mast.
For a few years in world of warships Stephen Segal went out on the deck of Missouri with a pot and cooks outfit, would do a kata, pick up the pot and go back inside. Then it was removed, the captain renamed to John Doe of all things and a strong hope that everyone forgot he was ever there by the devs...
Gun barrels Montana class battleships unbelievable thank you fort Harrison. I love you guys and gals especially dang it where you at LOL take care protect America save the children.
It would make sense for Turret 2's center gun to be used the most for danger close single round fire support requests because like you said, its the closest turret to the gun fire director and the center gun would be the most precise. Of course, I'd expect all 3 barrels of a turret to hit within 15 or 20 feet of each other but danger close target bombardment would probably be a single shell deal.
This might sound normal for many people. But I joined up as Avionics Electrician and was rated as one. Oddest job I had was checking people's ID at the gate. Did that full time for a few months. Dress blues every day. Had only 1 pair.
From what I understand from reading about the Royal Navy is the best most accurate gun crew was stationed in B turret because since it was the highest forward turret it was most likely to fire first on the enemy for range & effect, with the center gun being dead center may explain why it wore out first? I heard it was B turret on the Bismark that fired the fatal blow on the Hood allegedly
A similar device exists for firearms. It's not used because the rifled liner slipped out from under its casing, however. Generally it's used to make the muzzle flat and square after it has been cut down or otherwise damaged. It kinda resembles a hole saw with wider teeth and a solid spindle instead of a pilot drill.
My father and his brother served in the Army during Vietnam. My Uncle’s job was to guard helicopters at night at the base he was stationed at. That is a frivolous and unexciting chore.
I read that during the 120 day deployment in Vietnam the New Jersey fired almost 6000 rounds that would be about 650 + or - did they reline the barrels ..??? I am also wondering during the Pacific campaign the 16inch battle ships only fired 300 rounds per barrel... I would have thought that they would have fired that in one main bombardment...???
good question.....maybe more accurate than you would imagine....do they measure in Mil-Rads or MOA? at 15,000 yards, one MOA would be 12' 6" I believe, or 150 inches.....correct me if that is wrong.....my friend called in fire in Vietnam, he said the New Jersey was more accurate that their ground based artillery, he was in the 101st 68-69, said it was amazing.......
From what Ive read, the accuracy was stated as 32% at 9 miles against a battleship sized target, from a Naval War College study after WW2. Hope that helps.
I suspect the reason the barrel was scrapped was because the escaping high-pressure gasses through the crack probably damaged the barrel itself. It's the exact same concept to a case cracking or case head separation in a normal firearm. It can mar the chamber in a way that will cause problems later.
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Agreed! 😄
rooooooofl
Hell yeah! Circumciser!
Nathan, here's some stuff for ya. The Iowas almost got the 16"/50 Mk2 guns that had originally been made (71 barrels and forgings) for a canceled class of (1916) battleships that were casualties of the Washington Naval Treaty. But when one design authority changed the size of the turret barbettes without telling the other, the Mk2s wouldn't fit. So a new gun had to be designed, the Mk7, with very minor changes in dimensions, yet better performing than the earlier 16"/50s. The best I can make out, so far, is that those stored (since 1922) Mk2s were gonna be utilized in the 'Montana' class, but that's only my impression.
The procedure was officially known as Barrel Readjustment Internal Sleeve or BRIS and was performed by a Military Ordinance High Explosive Lathe technician or MOHEL.
I love, and miss, that type of military humor.
Well played, sir. Well played.
Did they come up with that tool after the first barrel cracked, or did they have it before that, and just didn't get around to using it in time?
LOL You made that up! Hilarious!
Some Jew in the military acronyms office must have come up with this
I just read in the book, "Battleship Commander" by Paul Stillwell that one of the barrels of South Dakota was found to have a crack in it after the Second Battle of Guadalcanal. It was removed and tested at a firing range in Idaho and blew itself to pieces with a reduced charge.
Adding that book to the list of books I need.
i wonder how reduce that charge was?
@@Vile-Flesh Very detailed account of that battle in it.
Ryan, the strangest duty that I have actually seen, and nearly had to do was to stand guard in front of a port-a-potty and ensure that no one had a writing instrument on them, and if they did we had to hold it for that person while they used the port-a-potty.
This was due to our Brigade Command Sergeant Major seeing some inappropriate graffiti on the port-a-potties.
One platoon from my battalions HHC, our MP platoon set up a full blown Etry Control point, with triple strand constantina wire, two gun trucks.
Lol. Just another day in the ridiculous Army. Someone broke a window in one of our trucks and the whole Battalion did motor stables guard for 4 months on a rotation basis along with staff duty nco and runner . Idiocy.
If it moves, salute it. If it doesn't move, pick it up. If you can't pick it up, paint it.
stylus control officer?
Who did he piss off for that duty? lol We had a kid that was ordered to sweep the grinder once.
Buncha elvisis out here I bet as well!
I just got my first car registered; I got to choose the style of plates, too, and I asked for Battleship New Jersey plates. $50 up front, and $10 every time I renew my car's registration. I'm happy to be supporting the Battleship in a more permanent way. As an added bonus, the plates look fantastic on my car.
I had no idea that was a thing! That’s really cool. I’ll have to see if Battleship Texas has one.
On the Lexington back in 61-64, as a Signalman, one of my jobs was making and repairing signal flags. I had a medium duty Singer sewing machine in an old 20MM belting room as "bunting repair". One pennant not in the supply system was the PUC or Presidential Unit Citation. I made the ones for the Lady Lex. She had two, so I sewed in a blue star showing a second award. I also repaired a ton of Foxtrot (F) flags, which flies during all day air ops. I also made a 25 by 19 Jolly Roger for when we crossed the equator and later flew it in Aransass Pass, Texas (near Pasadena) for some celebration there.
I remember when they replaced center barrel turret 2 in the yards at Long Beach. They used Herman the German floating crane. If I remember correctly it took 2 weeks. Rumors were they called back a retired shipyard worker from the east coast who had experience changing out a 16inch barrel.
I think Herman the German is living at Panama Canal now, he was sold off and shipped off.....I remember seeing the Missouri in the Harbor there back in 87-88....it was majestic.....cheers,,,
@@ypaulbrown just googled it. She is at the Panama Canal.
@@gmgg424 thanks...appreciate it...
They called back a lot of ex-battleship workers and sailors... Worked on the Jersey May '82 to Jan. '83; Missouri, Oct.84 to Jan. '85, with a seven day gun shoot sea trial, to boot!
@@adrianpasillas3832 What did the ship feel like when the 16's went off? Did you feel the ship recoil? Was there anyplace where you wouldn't notice? (I suspect not). Was there any warning onboard that it was about to happen?
Weirdest job: For me, as a Marine, I was constantly on KP. Every dang time i was on ship. Right to KP. But I will tell you, as a veteran of KP duty, there are ways to game the system. Get assigned to the ward room. (80 people rather than 2000), and if you are REALLY smart, volunteer for the Captains Galley. (1 person rather than 80) On Captain's mess, you ate what he ate, and you worked the hours he worked.. This meant that you got up late, and knocked off early.. (and had a steak for lunch). So, eating steak and lobster for lunch, and kicking back at 14:30 was the "weirdest" job for me as a Marine, assigned to ships KP duty...
Semper Fi to my fellow Marines that served either ships company, or KP (or both, like me).
that my kind of weird!
What does KP stand for?
@@PrezVeto KP = Kitchen Patrol. You know washing dishes
@@tancar2004 Thanks
As a Marine, I went for Ships Laundry. Worked nights instead of being warehoused in the lower decks. Got MidRats. Did not have to get up for Reville in the morning. The best... On Liberty... we had to wear Class C's. If you uniform was not up to snuff... you didn't get off the ship. Paid off well having access to the laundry when on liberty in Sydney..... I had a clean and pressed liberty uniform each day.
I have read that replacing the center gun barrel of Turret # 2 was difficult as breaking it loose was a problem but they were eventually successful. When I visited the Heavy Cruiser Salem last November I asked Dr. John Scholes what the square protrusions on each 8" gun barrel were for as the 16" guns do not have these. He told me that they were attachment points for an outside Milling machine to trim protruding gun liners. Perhaps Ryan could verify this with Dr. Scholes and do an in depth video in the future on this subject.
Would make sense. The previous Baltimore and I think later treaty cruisers used 8"/55 from the same rifle generation as the 16"/50 rifles. Salem used the Mk 16 8"/55 which to the best of my knowledge were the only naval rifles of that generation. Had Montana launched she likely would have had a similar feature for her rifles if they didnt use the stock of existing 16"/50 barrels in storage.
Regarding "breaking them loose" - do you mean to tell me that these enormous barrels just like threaded on? Or am I not understanding?
@@paulloveless9180 good question. I could ask the same about cannon of any size.
Some artillery I have seen are a smooth sleeve the gun rests in and is held in place by large pins, others the breech portion screws into the barrel remaining attached to the mount. I suspect it is the screw on type but that is just an educated guess.
@@Colonel_Overkill I think I read somewhere that the 55 Cal barrels on 16" guns drooped too much and were found to be less accurate than 50 Cal guns. If you go back you might find that the "Mk 16" was a model of the gun they were writing about and that the Navy had no plans to build a 16" 55 Cal gun and that the Montana was to have the same 16" 50 Cal guns that the Iowa's had--just 4 turrets of them.
Regarding strange jobs: I have read a witness report from a sailor on Tirpitz. He was constantly replacing light bulbs throughout the ship. They had so many and the firing caused enough to cease functioning that it seems to have been a constant source of occupation for one person.
I remember an interview on a carrier in the Persian Gulf during the invasion of Iraq. The person they were interviewing had the job of filling the vending machines. Here's a major ship of war launching air strikes around the clock, and this persons job on it was filling vending machines, about as far removed as one could get for work.
Thanks for the information! My dad was a ship fitter for the navy at pearl during the war. He mentioned having to trim the big guns when they came back from a battle. This is the first other report I have seen
The sleeve slipping forward during firing totally makes sense. What doesn’t make sense to me is how they were able to build up theses barrels. I have watched a few older videos on the process, but will never understand it. Thank you again for your continued fantastic content. Many museum ships owe you a great deal of credit for raising awareness to their existence, and the need and effort and funding it takes to preserve them. All the best sir.
For those wondering: Freeze the sleeve you are trying to slip into the barrel, heat up barrel you are trying to slip the sleeve into
Cold shrinks the sleeve, hot expands the barrel. When they cool down and warm up, they aren't coming apart.
It's not a case of the sleeve slipping so much as it is the sleeve lengthening from the heat/pressure of the gun being fired and the shell expanding (obturating) to grip the rifling as it travels down the barrel.
A common misconception.
Check out Periscope Films channel. They have one on the Naval Gun Factory which was located at the Washington (D.C.) Navy Yard. Fascinating video.
@@flick22601 There was, in the '90s Washington Navy Yard, a spare piece of the armor used on Yamato/Musashi, that had been "tested" with 16"-50 AP, likely at Dahlgren. Nice clean hole in that big block of steel.
@@jacquesblaque7728 - Gosh Jacques, I remember seeing that. Thanks for bringing back the memory.
The expanding to grip the rifling is called obturation for those of you that like fancy words. Obturation is also when a rifle casing expands to seal the chamber to prevent blow by.
I bought my previous home from a gentleman who was a "sailmaker" on an Iowa-class battleship in WWII. (I forget which battleship.) I asked him what a sailmaker does on a modern ship. He said that, among other things, they sewed the body bags.
Gosh, I wish I could just experience building that monster. The wonderful things you’ll need to know and do.
me too
Imagine just casually building a BB with a bunch of people that just want to.
All this info about the Ships of the Line. I was on board the USS Merrick AKA-97 - 1958 - 1961 and our task was to take supplies of all sorts from Port of Long Beach to everywhere we had military in the Far East. I was a FT - Gun Fire Control - and more than once the ship 'requested' my presence at the Fire Control computer so we could get an accurate distance to navigate into bays or rivers that were a 'tight squeeze' - the regular radar wasn't that precise. Mine was within 3 feet at 1000 feet. I did a lot of tuning to get it that close. Quite an experience.
"Circumstance.." I see what you did there. I remember seeing a bunch of these tubes outside behind a warehouse at Subic Bay Navel Station. Pretty awesome.
All jokes aside, just the fact that over time this type of wear issue occurred, was discovered and diagnosed, and that tool was designed to serve the function of correcting the issue is pretty interesting. That it was still in the ship is a bonus. Any idea when it may have actually last been used?
Given how the barrel was built, its not to surprising, and most likely a issue the engineers foresaw before this barrel type was put into service, since the rifled liner was just a press fit.
Odds are the last time this tool was used was somewhere around 1953, since the turrets were re-barreled after the Korean Conflict. From there, they'd introduced an additive during New Jersey's Vietnam commission that greatly extended the barrel life. A better additive was developed during the 1980's commission, mostly to address the reduced velocity of the aging powder, but was also found to have the effect of further extending barrel life. Cant remember the exact number he mentioned, they have an entire video on this, but I think it was thousands of shells before they liners wore out again. So yeah, maybe 1953, possibly right after the Vietnam or right before the 1980's commission.
@@sparkplug1018 The liner erosion was so reduced that the Navy changed how they expressed the life of the barrels to reflect that the mechanical forces from firing would wear out the barrels before the liner would need replaced.
Ryan, I was incharge of Mt 51 upper handling room and Mag. during GQ. while shooting off the Coast of Vietnam 1973, I was a Mess Cook for the Chief's when not shooting. Even after the war and getting a real job as the Barber/Ship Store operator. My GQ duty was still the same.
I love nerding out on WWII ship history...........The intricacies bring the sailors experiences to us to think and wonder about.
Weirdest job I had in the Navy was working on submarine sonar. I was the smallest guy. At that time I might have weighed 115. So, I was the one who could fit through the open valve into a ballast tank. Then squirm through the goop “Whale Sh-“ is what we called it. And change out the hydrophones. They always picked January in Norfolk to fail, and that had to be the coldest nastiest water. As far as gun barrels… we stopped in Oakland and there were three of them laying in the grass on base. Not on display , just laying there at the supply depot. That was 1978.
Thanks, Steve H
Best job example yet!
I think one of the strangest tasks was the Artwork Recovery which the movie Monument Men is based from. also the unit who was tasked with faking troop movements by using inflatable tanks and record players that pumped out sounds of tank tread movements etc.
Also, being a body double must have been very strange
During my time with the 82nd at Fort Bragg, you'd spend a couple days every year doing "post clean-up." This entailed you and all of the lower-enlisted guys from the unit getting into the back of a truck, getting dropped off in the middle of nowhere, and doing "hands across" the woods, looking for and picking up trash. I still don't understand the purpose of this, but we did find trash and litter in some really out of the way places.
Anyways, one year while doing post clean-up, we were instructed to get on the back of a 6x6 LMTV truck to move to another area to do post clean-up. This second area was kinda soupy and rough, like a lot of Ft Bragg, but our driver got us through it okay. Another truck driver... not so much. The reason the area was soupy was because it was a drained lake.
That particular driver, seeing grass growing, assumed the ground was dry and solid. Nope! Got a 6x6 LMTV truck with 42" tires stuck in mud, up to the axles. This was on a Friday afternoon. So a bunch of guys from Echo company (our logistics and support company) had to stand watch on this stuck truck all weekend until it could be recovered on Monday. Poor bastards. 😂
Wish I lived near one of the BBs and had a job working on them. Priceless.
Your Vlogs are Pure Gold !
I had a friend who joined the Navy and wanted to go into computers. He did not do well on a couple of tests so they made him a plumber. Apparently, Navy plumbers are not like normal plumbers. He got really good at welding different types on metal pipes. When he got out, he worked for BP in Washington State laying and maintaining petroleum pipelines. He made really good money.
He's a pipefitter, not a plumber. Lot of good paying jobs in that field.
@@butchs.4239 true. He said they made him a plumber. I think there was a series of steps.
I didn’t have a weird job in the Navy but I thought my uncle did. When I went on a tour of the USS America (CV-66), it was a wonderland. Aircraft everywhere on this giant ship - fascinating. Right up until he took me to his work station. He was an SH - Ship Serviceman. He ran a store on the ship. Basically sold cigarettes, soft drinks, laundry items and was one of the postal clerks. Man, was I disappointed. I thought everyone had a cool job.
The USS America (CV 66) was my first ship after boot camp in 1974. Quite the experience. Spent 3 years on it and still could not find some spaces on it.
My father in law was a typist on a carrier during WW2. When Battle Stations rang... he manned a .50 cal.
I saw crew on an Arleigh Burke DDG transferring palletized stores by hand, from a pallet jack on the weather deck to a pallet jack in the forward superstructure, because the door had a +/- 6 inch lip at the bottom.
As a recruit at GLAKES in 1970, one of our middle weeks of training was a break called "Service Week". That's when the recruits did all the work to run the camp. I think it was also the first week we were allowed to wear our white hats - it had been wool stocking, or blue cap covers before that. There was a wide range of assignments - galley - especially bakery - was considered the worst, because you started work in the middle of the night. Naturally, there was a hierarchy, even for recruits - and the leadership cadre got the best jobs. As a platoon leader, my job was to handle admin duties in the camp HDQTRS - hanging out with some buddies in a basement office, typing up letters to families of new recruits, assuring them the Navy would take good care of their sons and daughters. This was a choice, cakewalk job - coking and smoking, scuttlebutting all day until a new crop of recruits arrived, wearing a white walking belt (no double-timing required), and having our chow brought to us every day. I was really sorry when it ended, LOL.
Should do a video on how they exactly change out gun barrels on Iowa class battleships. I’ve always wondered
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I would like to request that you get a list of all of New Jersey's divisions and point that out as you go through different compartments. I've noticed a lot of S-2 Division. That is the division that handles cooking on all ships. I see that in all of the wardroom spaces. On the carriers, there is an S-5 Division. That is the Stewards. They are responsible for cleaning all of the officer's berthing and wardrooms. I guess New Jersey didn't have a separate division for the stewards. Thank you. 😊
I never pictured Halsey performing a bris before now
Hi Ryan, on small arm rifles, the tool is called a muzzle crowning tool, and it did what you describe for the 50 cal barrels.
My 45 cal black powder rifle accuracy improved immensely after I recrowned the barrel, as the original work was damaged.
Best lines from that movie "they're firing at us! Those are just 5 inch star bursts, they don't have anything that can hurt us!"
And "Gunners mate, you see those? We still have ammo for those"
But to answer the question, there's a lot of jobs in the military no one really thinks about, everyone thinks about the combat related jobs mostly. But, someone was cleaning all the heads on the ship on a regular basis, and someone was preparing the captains meals and uniforms.
...postal clerks, anchor & anchor chain maintenance, cleaning instruments, baking bread, dishwashers, cleaning windows, keeping written logs ( daily log entries had to be mundane), so many regular jobs...most folk only know what they see in movies.
@@tankman7711 Yeah that's true, people only really think about the combat related jobs, occasionally some of the support jobs like mechanics and stuff like that.
But there's tons of other regular jobs that have to be done too.
@@sparkplug1018 each capital ship is a small city unto itself with every job that implies.
@@sparkplug1018 9 guys being the Shaft to support the 1 guy Spear Head..... just sayin....
Now I know I have something in common with a battleship. Great video.
my highschool rotc instructor was basically an airforce cable-guy, he spent his career just running phone, tv, power, and communications around the various military bases he was sent to, occasionally when something important landed like a command plane he had to run out and plug it into ground power and communications. like you said, not everybody is involved in combat
The Air Force probably has the largest ratio of non-combat to combat personnel of any armed force. For every pilot flying a fighter or bomber doing the actual front-line missions there are dozens of ground crew maintaining and fuelling the planes, working air traffic control, cooking, providing firefighting and rescue cover and so on.
The weirdest way I had to work on something that was "behind" a helo's instrument panel was to "lay" in the seat upside down. Had to do this a few times on H-2's and once an emergency wire repair on a H-1. Didn't want to be in that position for too long.
Sounds like when i had to work on wiring on my 924. Lay on your back on the floor/door sill. Put your head under the dash. Then flip your feet over the shoulders of the seat. Then insert yourself the last foot or so to see around the kick panel. Still one of the worst contorted positions ive had to be in.
I've had to do this a few times on cars. Not too bad in there though.
@@Synergy7Studios being 6ft and it a small sports car changes it from not bad like with a truck or nornal car. To a pretty uncomfortable shoulder stand around the steering wheel and seat. Just to have the rest of your body bend the other way mid torso.
@@high633 oof, that's rough. I'd let my legs stick out the door.
@@Synergy7Studios has a pronounced door sill so the floor is like 3 or 4 inches below the sill line. So if you are just poking under there for a fuse totally. Any sort of prolonged work though all your weight on that one spot hurts pretty good.
So Big question when you put the circumciser on display what will its placard call it?
'Just the Tip, I promise'????
3:03 looks claustrophobic as hell .. also looks like the scene from Aliens with Bishop in the tube. Great video as always tho! Gotta bring the kids down there. Cheers from Morristown, NJ!
The overseeing Chaplain must've rolled his eyes many times at the proclivities and odd traditions of his flock...
He rolled his eyes even more, when King Neptune came aboard and was provided more reverence than he received.
He probably appreciated a break from endlessly imploring the guys not to end upon the hot seat.
I Never knew this details since I saw this videos . I´m highly surprised about that fakts. What I did believe before was, if a Barrel is thorn out the hole Barrel was to remove. Ryan,..I really thank you for all the videos I have seen so fare. My horizont and understanding of all the Details is ingreased dramatikly. Many Thanks for that.
Thanks again for uploading
Life on a fighting ship is similar to "Dirty Jobs". A lot of unsung heroes doing jobs to make life livable for the rest of the crew.
Ryan could probably film plenty of episodes with Mike Rowe doing the Dirty Jobs of restoring the USS New Jersey!
@@klsc8510 Exellent idea,
From what I've read, that's true for most of the military in general!
So I heard you mention coming out of Long Beach Naval shipyard in 1984. I joined the Navy in February 1984. I reported to the USS Merrill DD976 at Long Beach Naval Station. We were berthed across from the jersey. Our kitchen was shut down for repairs so we ate on the jersey. I really thought the battleship thing was quite something. So much so I put in for a transfer. I was a non-rate fireman. I was told that the sailors for the battleship were only handpicked. Anyway I did my day I got out as a GSM3 .
Very interesting sir. Most would walk right by that tool and never give it a second thought!
Weirdest jobs in my 20 years... Needle gunning and grinding and painting the inside of an avgas tank on the USS Coral Sea, cleaning and refurbishing the inside of CHT tanks on several other ships, cleaning out the main condensers on 4 different ships, inspecting and cleaning the sumps on the reduction gears on an AOE, which had two of the engine sets from the USS Kentucky. Of course I did my time as "mess crank"... and many other "working party" jobs over the years. One of my favorite jobs was working for E division on climbing the masts and changing light bulbs etc... PMS was always a chore for everyone and on some ships Engineering Dept. used folks from every division to get the job done. Crawling bilges was one of my least favorite chores.
Wow! Did you have to wear PPE like a respirator while in the CHT or AVGAS tanks? Was it stupid hot or did being below the water line make it comfortable? Did you ever see tools or grafiti left by the builders?
avgas tank - enclosed room - makes me think : something like a fresh air mask ?
Nowadays it is basically forbidden (even in the US ?) to work in a enclosed tank like that due to shortage of oxygene forbidden to only use a gas mask with filters.
@@TheStefanskoglund1 This was done during drydock period, Full Tyvek over suit with airline hose masks. Full freshwater showers setup near access/egress area. We sweated gallons of sweat. Each man had only 30 minutes of work time.
@@paulloveless9180 AVGAS tank: This was done during drydock period, Full Tyvek over suit with airline hose masks. Full freshwater showers setup near access/egress area. We sweated gallons of sweat. Each man had only 30 minutes of work time. CHT cleaning was in-port during workups for deployment, similar setup as the avgas tank. That reminded me, on the Coral Sea we opened a void tank and found 1/2 ton of Korean War dated cases of rations. The Lucky Strike cigarettes in them were so desiccated, that when lit they just burned up like a road flare. Some of the food stuffs were still edible. Then the MAA shut that down fast. No one got sick as far as I know.
@@randallparker8477 ok the big risk is oxygen deprivation because the tank (i expect) doesnt have any openable bottom valve so any gases heavier than air wont disappear easily. AVGAS fumes is one risk though they can be ventilated away (basically have something which forces normal air down into the tank and let it run for a few days.)
Great video from the battleship.
I worked construction at the Petroleum Oils and Lubricants area of an airforce base. The POL. They called it Painting Odd jobs and Landscaping.
Around 10 yrs ago I drove past Fallon NAS in Nevada. They had a few Barrels laying out near one of the bunkers. Not sure if they were the 16"50s but they were pretty damn big.
In the 70's the USN ran recruitment ads with dialog like "Dawn on the flight deck". SNL ran parody ads with sailors up to their chests in black gunk with dialog like "Christmas eve in the bilges."
In the WW2 book "Away All Boats" the most interesting character was the garbage grinder who had to collect and grind the ship's garbage prior to dumping it overboard so that Japanese subs would have a hard time tailing the fleet.
Ryan, be glad you guys have that "Mark 7, crown cutter" the yards no longer have them!
My friend had to go through the process of shell back or something like that. His day that day started out being rapped up in packaging materials and then some other stuff. He was fun and he got off of duty.
The weirdest job I did in the Air Force: I was a quality control person during a mobility exercise. I was tasked to babysit a B1B Bomber from 6pm to 6am, record any and all work performed during the exercise. The only problem was the first thing scheduled to be done on this aircraft wasn’t scheduled until 10am the next morning. Talk about a very long night of doing nothing other than staying awake! The second weirdest job was before an inspection I had to use liquid white shoe polish to touch up the white ceiling tiles to make everything look like new.
16 inch gun bore liner edge reamer! I have watched the movie Under Siege and in several scenes, the gun house look different in the movie than what I have seen in your videos - may have been a studio set.
One of the most interesting videos you’ve had in your great series….
The battle 🚢 ship New Jersey is my favorite of the big ship. Hello from Canada 🇨🇦
Can you describe or show how the stepped, interrupted threads were cut in the breach and breach plug when the big guns, e.g., were made?
When I served on several submarines and had lots of strange jobs one of them was compacting garbage and shooting it out the bottom of the submarine with 10,000 gallons of seawater.
Yeah that was definitely a “dirty job”. Thanks for your service. 11 year sub vet myself. Nuke MM
Another great submarine sea story was the Ice Cream machine watch the captain likes root beer floats with vanilla ice cream one side was dedicated to vanilla the other side chocolate. One soda spigot had to be root beer one day the captain (academy guy) came into the crews mess to get his root beer float and both sides were chocolate plus no root beer it was all coke. So he made the chief MSC(SS) and the supply officer a LT establish and ice cream machine watch, they had to record in a log book the temperature, texture and color of the ice cream and confirm root beer is present. This went on for a few months at sea we pulled into Portsmouth UK for a mid patrol break and while on the maneuvering watch the topside Petty officer and sentry were issued their weapons and ammunition, we put them in front of the ice cream machine standing armed ice cream machine watch with 35 mm pictures we had blown up and posted in the ward room. The Captain was not to happy but couldn’t do much because the ice cream machine watch was not legal either. The good old days at sea on the Andrew Jackson SSBN 619 GOLD
@@howardr222 no sh!t! USS ALEXANDER HAMILTON SSBN 617 Blue. Definitely sailed the same areas. Good ol Holy Loch Scotland!
@@thomashanke6750 I know you
@@howardr222 ????
Do a video about the potato peeler. I know on the Wisconsin there is a whole sign about how unauthorized personnel shouldn’t be operating the potato peeler.
well I 'll be keel hauled....
I've operated a potato peeler. Not aboard ship, but when I had 3 months mess cook duty at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, Calif.*
Here's the training film for the Hobart potato peeler: ruclips.net/video/DGOJtni8__8/видео.html
* This was the BEST duty assignment I had in my entire Navy enlistment. I was assigned there right out of boot camp while waiting for the next Radarman "A" school to start at Treasure Island Naval Station.
Except for that 3 month mess cook duty, I was assigned to Special Services, working as a pool cleaner, working at the base golf course (going around and servicing the ball cleaners), working at the base gym (supervising officers and enlisted while they were doing their calesthetics), and working in the Special Services office typing up reports (the Navy found out that I took a semester of typing in high school. At least they had IBM Selectrics rather than the old clunky standard typewriters.)
I was stationed there for a total of 9 months.
@@ThomasKent1346 Thomas, you mentioned the IBM Seletric typewriter. That device modified was the input device for my first computer system in the Air Force. It was called 465L SACCS. That is SAC Automated Command and Control System. After my 8 month Tech School, I went TDY to Barksdale AFB, LA to attend the 6 week SAC Advanced Keyboard School. In that school I had to tear the thing down to the frame and put it all back together and HAVE IT WORK! In the field most of the problems were with the 6 logic cards that were part of the modifications to the keyboard. Most of the time, they worked perfectly. But when they did break, you had a lot of work to do to get it working again! Thanks for the memory!
@@klsc8510 AKA... Remington Raiders
That is very interesting to us mechanical stuff nerds. Thank you.
Shouldn't trimming the extra length of the liner be the responsibility of the ship's barbers?
now that is funny
Barber/surgeon?
Or tailors, fixing the hem line like a pair of pants.
Could you possibly show some of the items in that storage space and maybe others in another video if they are interesting? I was wondering what those steel items are in the background with the springs on them?
really big valves
You make me laugh. OK. You don’t care. But these are hard times. You know that better than most. You still make me laugh kid. - being on the wrong end of these things doesn’t make me laugh. Didn’t think I could laugh about any of this. You did it. Thank you.
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In Vietnam men thought they would survive if the Navy chucked something inbound. That worked for an hour. Then it was back to eating dirt, digging for your life and praying they just went away. Not a story you see on TV or on the big screen. It’s just real.
I’m thinking some kids in Ukraine pray they just go away. I knew some guys who could help with the go away part.
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You’re doing a good thing. Every kid in school should watch your channel.
I haven't even watched it yet but I didn't have to go through that the title is what brought me here
Very interesting, thank you.
Definitely the Fog Watch, during inclement weather at night, us in the Admin division got to stand watch on the bow, listening for other ship as to avert possible collisions.
Thank you for covering this aspect of the battle ship maintenance. Would the 8 inch and 6 inch cruiser guns get the same maintenance?
It's similar to a tool called a ridge reamer, which is used to machine the sharp edges on a bore after it's been machined. They're commonly used in cylinders when rebuilding piston engines. A machinist might call it a facing tool, since this sort of operation on a lathe would be facing.
I've read an account about the USS Houston (CA-30) before it was lost in the Java Sea that the barrel liners of it's 8" guns were also creeping out of the barrels. Never knew there was equipment to deal with that.
I would love to meet you someday sir I've not been to New Jersey battleship for quite a while I will make a point to go visit again
Is muzzle crown as critical on a battleship gun, as it is on a carbine?
I don't know if it was the _weirdest_ job, necessarily, but I have an uncle who was in the Coast Guard for a while, and he told me about what might have been the most _pointless_ job in the military, which was the time he was assigned to pull staples out of some preposterous number of multi-page documents and then restaple them with the staple diagonally across the corner instead of horizontal.
Forgive my lack of knowledge but was the NJ the site of the deadly turret explosion or was it the USS Iowa?
Iowa is the one that had the turret explosion
Iowa
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What did they do with the trimmings/foreskins?
probably over the side with all the other trash tbh,
As a medic in the National Guard, my job was to sterilize surgical instruments. In a sense I was the chief cook and bottle washer.😁
I had several extra duties in the Air Force and Army National Guard. The Air Force (I was a Staff Sergeant) Squadron Blood Drive Project Officer, and CPR Instructor. In the Guard, this former Blue Suiter after Iraq became Company Marksmanship NCO. All of them I had fun with. The dirtiest job was in Kuwait after leaving Iraq. We had to wash the undersides of all of our vehicles and trailers. The water was gross! We found stuff from 10 years of Camp Grayling and who know where else packed into the darndest places. All had to be removed to pass USDA inspection so they could be put on a ship and delivered back to us in Michigan.
Weirdest job I ever did in the navy was standing watch over the freshly poured concrete pathway to make sure nobody carved their initials in it. Best job I think I ever heard of was the sailors in WW2 who operated the ice cream barges in Ulithi lagoon. That was in a fascinating book about the pacific fleet logistics called Beans, Bullets, and Black Oil.
Hmmm, MASH: Falkeye to his friendly/favourite fixer: can you get ice cream to RADAR (RADAR had had an operation - removing swollen mandels ?) ?
Fixer: That is hard ... i will speak to some of my friends in the Navy.
1 day later : a package of ICE-cream arrives in an Army hospital in the hills of Korea......
Feast for RADAR (and due to the amount the surgeons too.)
never heard of that book., it was printed in 1953, going to check it out
@@TheStefanskoglund1 one of my favorite episode of mash. Season 7, Episode # 7. it was his tonsils, that radar had out.
Ryan, odd duties for the newly reported BlueJackets that I have heard of: Mail buoy watch, deck hand detailed to engineering spaces to get some "relative bearing grease. What others do you know of?
Also, a compendium of "newbee" pranks? The Sea Bat, etc.
Really enjoy your channel. Tnx.
Fair Winds, USN Ret.
There was also prop wash… my favorite and yes I fell for it was go get Frank. Hey we need Frank, he’s working in aft rudder control right now. Ok, 600 feet aft and five decks down. Hi kid, you just missed him, he’s on his way to the radio room. Ok , 700 feet forward and eight decks up. When I got there, the story was he was in the boiler room. That’s when I caught on. Oh, don’t ask for a BT punch either. Or fix the B-1-r-d up on the after mast.
We did an entire episode on this for April Fools last year: ruclips.net/video/eBZdL69BksQ/видео.html
Good job.
For a few years in world of warships Stephen Segal went out on the deck of Missouri with a pot and cooks outfit, would do a kata, pick up the pot and go back inside. Then it was removed, the captain renamed to John Doe of all things and a strong hope that everyone forgot he was ever there by the devs...
Gun barrels Montana class battleships unbelievable thank you fort Harrison. I love you guys and gals especially dang it where you at LOL take care protect America save the children.
It would make sense for Turret 2's center gun to be used the most for danger close single round fire support requests because like you said, its the closest turret to the gun fire director and the center gun would be the most precise. Of course, I'd expect all 3 barrels of a turret to hit within 15 or 20 feet of each other but danger close target bombardment would probably be a single shell deal.
This might sound normal for many people. But I joined up as Avionics Electrician and was rated as one. Oddest job I had was checking people's ID at the gate. Did that full time for a few months. Dress blues every day. Had only 1 pair.
From what I understand from reading about the Royal Navy is the best most accurate gun crew was stationed in B turret because since it was the highest forward turret it was most likely to fire first on the enemy for range & effect, with the center gun being dead center may explain why it wore out first? I heard it was B turret on the Bismark that fired the fatal blow on the Hood allegedly
Can you give any more info on the powder additive they used to prolong the barrel life?
Here's a video on the powder: ruclips.net/video/-2oDJDgEGGU/видео.html
A similar device exists for firearms. It's not used because the rifled liner slipped out from under its casing, however. Generally it's used to make the muzzle flat and square after it has been cut down or otherwise damaged. It kinda resembles a hole saw with wider teeth and a solid spindle instead of a pilot drill.
Mohel, first class.
A friend of mine from H.S. was on board New Jersey, he told me about the bbl change. Was Australia involved somehow, ?
My father and his brother served in the Army during Vietnam. My Uncle’s job was to guard helicopters at night at the base he was stationed at. That is a frivolous and unexciting chore.
I read that during the 120 day deployment in Vietnam the New Jersey fired almost 6000 rounds that would be about 650 + or - did they reline the barrels ..??? I am also wondering during the Pacific campaign the 16inch battle ships only fired 300 rounds per barrel... I would have thought that they would have fired that in one main bombardment...???
This process you are talking about is called "Re-crowning" the muzzle.
Hitting the side of a barn... at 26 miles range, would be phenomenal accuracy!
That's one impressive hunk of tooling.
With its consent, I’d imagine. I wouldn’t like to be on the receiving end of a 16 inch gun…
Carefully. You don't want to make it mad.
After a very heavy sedation?
What was the gun accuracy in MOA?
good question.....maybe more accurate than you would imagine....do they measure in Mil-Rads or MOA? at 15,000 yards, one MOA would be 12' 6" I believe, or 150 inches.....correct me if that is wrong.....my friend called in fire in Vietnam, he said the New Jersey was more accurate that their ground based artillery, he was in the 101st 68-69, said it was amazing.......
From what Ive read, the accuracy was stated as 32% at 9 miles against a battleship sized target, from a Naval War College study after WW2. Hope that helps.
I suspect the reason the barrel was scrapped was because the escaping high-pressure gasses through the crack probably damaged the barrel itself. It's the exact same concept to a case cracking or case head separation in a normal firearm. It can mar the chamber in a way that will cause problems later.
How about a lip on the inside of the outer barrel to make sure the liner doesn't doesn't go out?
Would probably make it more difficult to rebore.