Early Thoughts on the Fujifilm X-M5, XF 16 -55mm f/2.8 II, XF 500mm f/5.6

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  • Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2024

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  • @jordohayes
    @jordohayes Месяц назад +9

    Watching you both cover Fuji’s latest gear without having it in-hand feels like waking up on Christmas morning to find out Santa skipped your house-and now all the other kids are unboxing the toys you wanted on TikTok! Fuji, this is the one house you don’t skip! 😉

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад +3

      Thanks, Jordo! 😊👊🏻

  • @charliejg
    @charliejg Месяц назад +15

    I watched the Fuji presentation this morning. They really need to learn how to make a less stuffy, corporate presentation. I was a bit surprised that they didn't make X-M5 body a bit bigger to fit the newer batter and IBIS. Vloggers want stabilization and longer life batteries.

    • @macccu
      @macccu Месяц назад +3

      You just described X-S20 minus EVF. That would be too little differentiation

    • @charliejg
      @charliejg Месяц назад

      @@macccu Good point.....

    • @Chrizzowski
      @Chrizzowski Месяц назад +3

      No way, I'm into the "so bad it's good" stuffy corporate style hah. Notice how much better it is when they speak Japanese? They should just stick with it for the whole thing, don't mind the captions that much.

  • @ShizuoDai1
    @ShizuoDai1 Месяц назад +4

    The camera is not for me personally, but man! They really nailed that body design! It’s just beautiful to look at…

  • @albedo0point39
    @albedo0point39 Месяц назад +3

    Going to buy the X-M5 with a Voigtlander 18mm. Just looks like a ton of fun.

  • @mikrokosmfotos
    @mikrokosmfotos Месяц назад +1

    I still have (and use) an X-M1, and this (minus the iterations of 2, 3 & 4) looks like it could be a handy travel camera at the very least. The 1 is also pretty good & sneaky for street & outdoor events - this should be even better ...

  • @darrenthibodeau8381
    @darrenthibodeau8381 Месяц назад +4

    I'm just imagining this thing with my 35mm F\1.4 as something that goes everywhere!

    • @alexhuezo1434
      @alexhuezo1434 Месяц назад

      That's why I ordered it, can't wait to try that little combo.

  • @jamespkuzman
    @jamespkuzman Месяц назад

    The new lenses are the real stars of this announcement, and I appreciate that you are one of the few (the only?) person I’ve heard so far giving them any attention.

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      😊🙏🏻🖖🏻

  • @SlotCarNewsOfficial
    @SlotCarNewsOfficial Месяц назад +6

    This camera is MORE than enough for most folks out there and especially so for RUclipsrs! It's solid. Sure it's not for me as a professional shooter but who cares!!! It's not aimed at me and I love that they've done this camera!
    Now the 500mm has me flummoxed. It's FAR too long for most sports photography. And isn't a first choice length for most sports/news shooters out there like myself. I'm not sure why they've jumped right past making a 300mm and 400mm which would sell in FAR higher numbers IMO (based on 30+years shooting professionally news/sports).

    • @kaneclements7761
      @kaneclements7761 Месяц назад +2

      They picked the 500mm as it is a rework of the GFX 500 re-engineered to fit the X line.
      I figure they will get a return on that investment. When I've got some extra cash and they go on rebate down the line I could well be tempted. I don't shoot sports or news and have lenses that would suit if I did.
      Cracking piece of kit for wildlife and aviation.

    • @SlotCarNewsOfficial
      @SlotCarNewsOfficial Месяц назад +2

      @@kaneclements7761 they should have done that with the 250 GF as well

    • @BB-ft6nd
      @BB-ft6nd Месяц назад

      Its for wildlife photography.

    • @SlotCarNewsOfficial
      @SlotCarNewsOfficial Месяц назад

      @@BB-ft6nd no it's for whatever. There's NO set purpose for ANY lens. My point is, as you know, this is VERY limited appeal. They've chosen to NOT release a more usable length like a repurpose of the 250 GR F4 that WOULD sell better than this 500 ever would.

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      Thanks for sharing!

  • @rickgovek2715
    @rickgovek2715 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks, Hugh!

  • @NotAnotherChannel_Channel
    @NotAnotherChannel_Channel Месяц назад +2

    I was really impressed with this camera at this price. Not what I would use, but for beginner/intermediate photographers, it delivers some impressive tools. It also crushes the Sony ZV-E10 II.
    My favorite gear announced today was the 500mm since I love shooting wildlife. That new 16-55 though… wow.
    Hope you’re getting better.

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад +2

      Slowly but surely, thanks! 😊🙏🏻

  • @alanc6416
    @alanc6416 12 дней назад

    10:09 definitely want to hear from you the difference between the 500mm vs 150-600mm. On paper sounds like the zoom is a better lens but the IQ? Worth it?

  • @kaneclements7761
    @kaneclements7761 Месяц назад +2

    Hi Hugh.
    I used to have the original 16-55 but replaced it with the Tamron 17-70 f2.8.
    They render differently, however they both do a great job.
    The Tamron in the UK sells new for just under £700. I can't see myself considering the new 16-55. The extra reach of the Tamron and the weight at 530 gms makes it a keeper for me.

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад +2

      Thanks for weighing in!

    • @thebitterfig9903
      @thebitterfig9903 Месяц назад +1

      The fact that the Tamron goes out to 70mm does seem to be something special about that lens. 70mm at f/2.8 has a look not dissimilar to a 50mm f/2, if aiming for subject separation. But it's also the largest of the bunch of f/2.8 zooms. All optics are tradeoffs, eh?

    • @kaneclements7761
      @kaneclements7761 Месяц назад

      @@thebitterfig9903 Agreed.
      For me the Tamron accompanied by the Fuji 70-300 with the X-T5 is a really good main set up. Plus the less take the same filter size.
      Two lenses lenses covering 25 to 450 FF equivalent for the weight and A/F performance is damn good combo.

  • @gordon3988
    @gordon3988 Месяц назад

    Always enjoy! I did watch the PetaPixel review and the OIS didn’t look too bad, but it has a 1.32 crop. Look forward to when folks get to test this camera more fully. It looks good on paper (and physically) IMO and a good fit for intended market (somewhat like ZV E10 ii but with style..subjective).

  • @babyboy1971
    @babyboy1971 25 дней назад

    Fuji needs to address the autofocus on the XT5 in new firmware asap, and in all their cameras. This camera looks awesome but lord I hope they get the autofocus right. They need to step it up.

  • @video-carl
    @video-carl Месяц назад

    Fujifilm has always impressed me with it's choices in camera ranges/models. And as you say, it's great at iterating designs; something sorely lacking at Panasonic with scattergun approach to introducing one off designs.

  • @DavidMBanes
    @DavidMBanes Месяц назад +3

    Yes, I've sold my Lumix S9 mainly due to L mount lens prices and weight. I ordered the X-M5 today as it appears to be the same less IBIS as my X-S20, which has great autofocus. I'll retire my X-M1 daily now; the S9 was an expensive dead end for me. The XC 15-45mm makes great images but is noisy and the zoom stutters. The XC 35mm I have on my X-M1 is great and the optics are the same as the XF 35mm.

    • @Princeton_James
      @Princeton_James Месяц назад +1

      Panasonics AF blows fujis AF out of the water. I sold my XS20 specifically because of the autofocus. If it wasn't for the poor AF I would have kept it. I actually liked that camera.

    • @DavidMBanes
      @DavidMBanes Месяц назад

      @@Princeton_James That's odd as mine is great and I can't really see much difference to the Lumix S9, now sold. Did you update to the latest firmware?

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      Thanks for sharing your experiences and thought process!

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      Thank you for a different take!

    • @dirk.4711
      @dirk.4711 Месяц назад

      Compare your XC/XF 35mm with a Sigma i-series 35/2.0 or 50/2.0. Both will kill your Fuji lens. The AF of the S9 is not bad at all by the way.

  • @drthompson65
    @drthompson65 Месяц назад

    Finally having time the watch the corporate video X-M5 is a nice idea, a pocket camera that can do all but feel they may be missing the boat by taking features off. Since I have so much investing into Sony I decided to go the FX30 route for my video.

  • @JasonBetz-k2r
    @JasonBetz-k2r Месяц назад +16

    QUESTION - will anyone actually be able to buy any of this gear? Fuji's perpetually understocked so it almost doesn't matter if someone wants to buy one. They cannot. The AF on Fuji has been suspect. Hopefully they have sorted it out. But Hugh as usual you are dead on - this is an S9 killer - hold that thought - make it OBLITERATOR. (IF) it pans out and (IF) you can ever find one to buy. As you say, we shall see.

    • @35mmOn35mm
      @35mmOn35mm Месяц назад +3

      S9 killer? Fuji fan boys are so lost in the sauce LOL… they made an xe4 with a flip out screen and no EVF.. WoOoOaAAHhHh

    • @JasonBetz-k2r
      @JasonBetz-k2r Месяц назад +4

      @@35mmOn35mm LOL I spent time dissing Fuji yet I am a Fuji fanboy??????????
      Nersflash, Princess - I don't use Fuji cameras. But it's VERY clear I triggered a LUMIX fangirl. You are projecting,

    • @ShizuoDai1
      @ShizuoDai1 Месяц назад

      @@35mmOn35mm Now you’re just saying words for no reason mate… It’s meant for a certain type of people ( like all the different cameras out there ) and it is a solid camera gear. It’s already sold out btw. 😅

    • @Gaspar314
      @Gaspar314 Месяц назад +1

      @@35mmOn35mm someone’s butthurt lol

    • @thatsreallyamoon
      @thatsreallyamoon 24 дня назад

      How can a camera without IBIS be a lumix S9 killer? I don’t know why you would even compare these? The XM5 is APSc, S9 is full frame. The XM5 is $800, S9 is $1500.
      It’s like talking about value proposition of a Honda Civic and a pick up truck.

  • @stanobert3475
    @stanobert3475 Месяц назад +2

    I consider the newly announced Fuji X 16-55 2.8 II lens to be an essential lens for the serious enthusiast, part-time and full time professional, especially with the 40 megapixel sensor.

  • @Jack44297
    @Jack44297 Месяц назад

    Hi there, i have an iphone 16 pro max and i do street photography just as a hobby. Is it worth upgrading to an M5?

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      Depending upon your priorities, the medium through which you choose to show and view it, yes.

  • @jordohayes
    @jordohayes Месяц назад

    With the X-M series now focusing on the TikTok and vlogging crowd, and rumors of a half-frame camera aimed at Instagram/iPhone users, the X-Pro line is perfectly positioned to serve professional photographers who are focused solely on stills. I’m really hoping for a Fuji X-Pro that can truly give the Leica M a run for its money. Plus, I don’t want the shooting experience compromised by unnecessary video features. Fuji needs that talisman-like camera for the true Fuji purist at heart.

    • @Leicam10
      @Leicam10 Месяц назад

      Leica M is not about cameras, it’s about 70years of compatible lenses with a broad range of signatures to tell the story you want to tell, that’s why Fuji can never compare.

    • @jordohayes
      @jordohayes Месяц назад

      @@Leicam10 Fair point on Leica’s optics, but Fuji’s smaller F2 primes are also very capable both in studio and in the field. Plus, there are great manual lenses for X-Mount. That said, Leica M’s real strength lies in the body itself-Oskar Barnack’s original vision was to create a compact, professional-grade camera for landscapes, and that field-ready design is still key. I could see Fuji maintaining their own vision of a smaller, professional-grade stills-only camera paired with capable small lenses, creating a powerful compact system.

  • @SJMPhotography
    @SJMPhotography Месяц назад

    Hi Hugh, I have the option to return my X-S20 with 15-45mm kit lens and get the X-S20 with the 16-50mm F2.8-4.8 kit lens instead, for an additional £230.
    My other option is to keep the 15-45mm and buy the Sigma 18-50 F2.8 in the future for £480, the lens you mention in this video.
    So the choice is:
    1. Keep the 15-45mm lens.
    2. Replace the 15-45mm with the Fuji 16-50mm F2.8-4.8 for £230.
    3. Keep the 15-45mm and buy the Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 for £480.
    Which option would you take? I'd be particularly interested in your thoughts on the Sigma 18-50 versus the new Fuji kit 16-50.

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад +1

      Wish I could be helpful here, but as I said: I haven’t had the 15-45 in hand. Sigh.

    • @SJMPhotography
      @SJMPhotography Месяц назад

      @@3BMEP Sorry, I meant the Sigma 18-50 F2.8 versus the Fuji 16-50 F2.8-4.8

    • @samson40a
      @samson40a Месяц назад +1

      In UK Sigma have Cashback on the 18-50

  • @hajoprecht3178
    @hajoprecht3178 Месяц назад

    Would you prefer the D-Lux 8 to the X-M 5?

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      At this point, for me, yes.

    • @hajoprecht3178
      @hajoprecht3178 Месяц назад

      Thx for your answer..
      Optical Quality, Vario, Menue, Electronic Viewfinder, etc.
      More for your bucks I think..
      And.. yes.. it‘s a Leica!

    • @dbean5174
      @dbean5174 16 дней назад

      @@hajoprecht3178yeah if you can reason with a smaller sensor then it is better. You will be getting less “technical” performance but the actual experience will probably be better.

  • @alanc6416
    @alanc6416 12 дней назад

    2:38 My thoughts exactly as the X-M5 is just so much better than (or at the very least equal to) the S9 that is probably targeted at the exact same audience at 1/2 the price. That being said, Sony already has some killer bodies for the same audience.
    The S9 controversy is also a mistake on Panasonic's part, and doesn't help the situation.

  • @jamesmlodynia8757
    @jamesmlodynia8757 Месяц назад

    I don't know if I would consider it rangefinder style since it has no viewfinder.

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      See similar comment and response! 😊🖖🏻

  • @alexanderchua
    @alexanderchua Месяц назад

    The XM5 works because its not as ridiculously priced as the S9.

  • @praveenramkumar6961
    @praveenramkumar6961 Месяц назад +1

    If compared to olympus 300 f4
    Olympus was 200g lighter
    Faster F4
    cheaper
    Almost 9 years older
    I don’t understand why the comparison is always towards full frame!

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      In our case (3BMEP), it is because the momentum is with full frame - and full frame is now our personal choice over M43.

    • @praveenramkumar6961
      @praveenramkumar6961 Месяц назад

      When you compare APSC to full frames! (Which are apples & oranges) we can also compare them with micro4/3 to see the differences .

    • @praveenramkumar6961
      @praveenramkumar6961 Месяц назад

      @@3BMEPa full frame lens equal-ant of this reach would require more glass elements, more precise engineering!

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      Which I have done in the past.

  • @dirk.4711
    @dirk.4711 Месяц назад +2

    Please make a comparison between 16-55/2.8 MKii, Sigma 18-50/2.8 and Sigma 28-70/2.8 (yes, the smaller Sigma zoom with 28mm widest FL)

  • @Grant_Ferstat
    @Grant_Ferstat Месяц назад +1

    I'm guessing this means no XE5, and if that's the case I'm very disappointed as that's the camera I've been hoping for.
    No EVF is a deal breaker for me. Living in Perth, Western Australia where bright sun is basically a year long reality makes composing with even the brightest of screens pretty much impossible.

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад +1

      I understand.

    • @kaneclements7761
      @kaneclements7761 Месяц назад +1

      Patrick at Fuji Rumours tells us the X-E5 is coming as is the next X-Pro.
      Patrick is rarely wrong.

    • @Grant_Ferstat
      @Grant_Ferstat Месяц назад

      @@kaneclements7761 🤞

  • @jeffrey3498
    @jeffrey3498 25 дней назад

    Nice review, but hold that thought
    🤣👍

  • @dbean5174
    @dbean5174 16 дней назад

    Imagine if you put the XF500 on the XM5 😂…

  • @HannesTschofenig
    @HannesTschofenig Месяц назад

    Is it any better than a mobile phone?

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      It can be. See my review of the LUMIX 18-40 for a side by side comparison of my iPhone 14Pro for an indication of when, how and why.

    • @dbean5174
      @dbean5174 16 дней назад

      Yes and no. The iPhone’s nowadays are pretty damn good for what they are. You can find some stellar photos online even if they were post processed.

  • @rrasch8125
    @rrasch8125 Месяц назад +4

    How many more Mickey Mouse sized sensor cameras will Fuji make?

    • @JasonBetz-k2r
      @JasonBetz-k2r Месяц назад +6

      Ha - one of the full-frame mafia is in the house.

    • @AnikiF
      @AnikiF Месяц назад +1

      Nobody obliges you to buy it

  • @damianip
    @damianip Месяц назад +4

    Can we really call a camera body with no EVF a "rangefinder-style" camera?

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      Fair question! 😊🖖🏻What would YOU call it?

    • @damianip
      @damianip Месяц назад +3

      @@3BMEP "Finderless"?

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      @damianip I like it! 👍🏼

    • @macccu
      @macccu Месяц назад

      @@damianip Rangefinder style finderless mirrorless camera? :D I find it fair to call it rangefinder style for easy differentiation vs DSLR style camera with "prism" bump.

    • @damianip
      @damianip Месяц назад

      @@macccu However, it isn’t. Traditionally, one peers through a rangefinder to frame and focus. The newest Fujifilm and Lumix cameras, frustratingly, don’t support that. Hence my comment about the necessity of highlighting that design decision and to distinguish it from bodies that offer that capability.

  • @Burritosarebetterthantacos
    @Burritosarebetterthantacos Месяц назад +1

    Fujifilms business model is an embarrassment.

  • @jackrussel9991
    @jackrussel9991 Месяц назад

    We all need to be more careful and not follow this fuffy trend of new product and meganothing. Where is the value to spend 800-900 dollar and in some months get a SW update that put your camera down. FUJIFILM need to reconsider how to behave on the market and treat user with more respect. The AF is far behind the competition!

  • @drthompson65
    @drthompson65 Месяц назад

    First! :)

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад +1

      👊🏻😊

  • @dirk.4711
    @dirk.4711 Месяц назад

    second :)

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      👍🏻😎

  • @daveboyle5751
    @daveboyle5751 Месяц назад

    You can not compare the price of this 500mm f5.6 lens to a 800mm FF equivalent, the 800mm on APSC would be 1200mm , this overly large Med format lens is 750mm FF equivalent, Fuji taking a GFX lens and chucking an X mount on it is lazy sloppy un-inspirational thinking, for an APSC x mount this lens could have been smaller and faster, frankly you'd be better off investing in a fringer adapter and getting the Nikkor 500mm f5.6 PF for the same price, and also have access to a large section of tele primes. clearly Fuji doesn't think there's going to be a large market for these primes so they decided to go down the cost cutting route.

    • @3BMEP
      @3BMEP  Месяц назад

      Thanks for sharing. While I disagree with your assertion that one cannot compare the 500 to FFE FOV of 750, I understand your other points and I thank you for making them. 😊🖖🏻

    • @thebitterfig9903
      @thebitterfig9903 Месяц назад +1

      I don't know if there are massive size and weight savings to be had if doing a fully X-Mount design. The Fuji 100-400 is fairly comparable to full-frame lenses of similar focal length and aperture, the Fuji 150-600 as well. The 50-140/2.8 is fairly similar in size and weight to the Olympus 40-150/2.8 for m43. Seems as though for high-quality telephoto lenses, the focal length and aperture just are what they are. For budget lenses, you'll see 50-200-ish APS-C telephotos being rather small, but once really going in hard on image quality, glass is glass.

    • @Triforian
      @Triforian Месяц назад +2

      Exactly. As soon as the front elements start dominating the weight, probably above 56 mm for APSC, but at 500 mm for sure, there's basically no weight saving going from medium format to full frame to APSC. It's perfectly fine to re-use the GF formula for an XF lens. The 500 5.6 PF with finger is heavier and more expensive than the new Fuji by the way...

    • @Bayonet1809
      @Bayonet1809 Месяц назад +1

      It should also be mentioned that Fuji no doubt engineered the X and GFX lenses at the same time, so they didn't just take a GFX lens and chuck an X mount on it, more likely they tried to optimise for both image circles. Also, using a Nikon lens with an adapter is never going to be as usable or reliable as a native lens.

    • @daveboyle5751
      @daveboyle5751 Месяц назад

      @@Bayonet1809 Lol that's just an assumption on your part with no facts to back it up, secondly I've been using the Nikkor primes and zooms for sports on the XH2S like the AF-s80-400 because Fuji clearly wasn't going to meet that market, AF is has good has any Fuji lens or prime with fringer adapter, your talking nonsense from a base of no experience.